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Teen Hitmen Kill Wrong Target, Brag on Social Media · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gorgeous young woman gunned
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Speaker 1: down in her own home. Something was off about the investigation.
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Speaker 1: What happened to Alicia Michelle Canalis McGuire. I'm Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us
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Speaker 1: here at Fox Nation and Sirius XM one eleven. First
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Speaker 1: of all, take a listen to this. Detectives still have
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Speaker 1: the road closed out here, so we have not had
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Speaker 1: any access to where the shooting happened. In fact, you
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Speaker 1: can't even see the home from where we are. This
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Speaker 1: Nahomish County Medical Examiner unseen after a young woman was
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Speaker 1: shot and killed in a home near Everett. It was
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Speaker 1: around two o'clock this morning when people called nine one
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Speaker 1: to report gunshots fired in the thirty one hundred block
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Speaker 1: of York Road. When deputies arrived, they found a young
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Speaker 1: woman dead inside the doorway of a duplex. We all
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Speaker 1: just woke up and looked out the windows. Brandon Blevins
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Speaker 1: lives in the neighborhood and woke up to the gunshots.
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Speaker 1: His roommate called nine one one. They didn't see a
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Speaker 1: car drive off, but that could have been any card.
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Speaker 1: The Sheriff's office says three children and another woman were
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Speaker 1: also inside the home during the shooting. Detectives interviewed that woman,
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Speaker 1: but a sheriff spokeswoman says there were no eye witnesses
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Speaker 1: when the shots were fired. This time, we still don't
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Speaker 1: have a suspect identified. We're still following up on leeds.
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Speaker 1: L as I said, this is an active homicide investigation.
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Speaker 1: Throughout the morning, detectives waited for a search for it
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Speaker 1: to begin collecting evidence at the home, gunshots ringing out
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the night around two am. According
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Speaker 1: to our Francy at KOMO that you just heard the victim,
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Speaker 1: an unarmed young woman age twenty four, answers the door
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Speaker 1: seemingly and gets gunned down right there at the threshold
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Speaker 1: to the home. Why no one in the home sees
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Speaker 1: a thing with me? And I'll start panel to make
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Speaker 1: sense of what we know right now. First of all,
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Speaker 1: Dante Pride, attorney and founder of the Pride Law Firm.
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Speaker 1: You can find her at Victim Lawyer dot com. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Jerry Crossen, psychologist, faculty Saint Leo University, consultant and author
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Speaker 1: of Operations. Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville, State University,
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Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon and Star
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Speaker 1: for a brand new you hit series on iHeart Bodybags
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Speaker 1: with Joe Scott Morgan. But first I want to go
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Speaker 1: to Ellen Dennis, reporter with a Daily Harold and Everett. Ellen,
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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. That's a very bizarre
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Speaker 1: set of facts because the person the victim, seemingly comes
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Speaker 1: to the door. You don't have a home invasion, you
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Speaker 1: don't have a burglary, you don't have anything stolen, you
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Speaker 1: don't have a sex assault. So the woman comes, so
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Speaker 1: the door is gunned down at the door. The victim
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Speaker 1: opened her door roughly around two am that morning, and
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Speaker 1: she was shot multiple times too. Dante Pride joining us
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Speaker 1: at turning out of San Diego and founder of the
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Speaker 1: Pride Law Firm. Dante again, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: You know how many times have I argued to juries
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Speaker 1: nothing good happens after midnight. I mean, two am, somebody
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Speaker 1: knocks at your door. I'm not blaming the victim at all,
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Speaker 1: but two am, right, there should have been a tip
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Speaker 1: off that something is very wrong. Absolutely two am in
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Speaker 1: the morning for any you know, law abiding citizen at
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Speaker 1: the time. That would be absolutely insane to have someone
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Speaker 1: knocking your door, and I'm not sure that she didn't
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Speaker 1: feel that way when she answered the door. We don't know. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we'll never know. Do we know, Ellen Dennis joining us
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Speaker 1: from the Daily Herald there in Everett. Do we know
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Speaker 1: how many times she was shot or anything about the
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Speaker 1: shooting at all? So dozens of people allegedly spoke with
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Speaker 1: detectives in the hours after the shooting. Neighbors testified in
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Speaker 1: court that they heard sound resembling a sledgehammer. One said
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Speaker 1: that they went to a man a window and saw
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Speaker 1: a man running. Wow, that's a lot of evidence right there.
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Speaker 1: From what I'm understanding to you, Justice Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics,
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Speaker 1: the victim was shot multiple times and that's telling me
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Speaker 1: a lot. Ah, she died instantly, but b what would
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Speaker 1: have been the motive? There was again, no home invasion,
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Speaker 1: no burglary, no rate, nothing was stolen that we know of.
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Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about an individual being shot
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Speaker 1: in multiple times, Nancy, that's an indication of one of
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Speaker 1: two things. Either the individual is making sure that the
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Speaker 1: subject is in fact deceased at that moment time, or
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Speaker 1: they're not very practiced at doing this sort of thing,
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Speaker 1: you know, like a professional killer. Say, for instance, if
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Speaker 1: it was some trained army marksmen, they might fire one
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Speaker 1: time to take the individual down, very sure of the
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Speaker 1: shot that they're taking. There's another big takeaway here, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: It's not like this is kind of randomized where she
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Speaker 1: shot out in the yard and there's a car driving by,
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Speaker 1: she came to the door. What does that indicate, Well,
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Speaker 1: there was perhaps a knock at the door, the doorbell rang,
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Speaker 1: she opened the door, So that gives you an indication
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Speaker 1: of proximity. And one more thing, we do know that
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Speaker 1: she was shot multiple times, five times, Joe Scott. I
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Speaker 1: found out five times, and so that's even a bigger
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Speaker 1: indicator of the fact of proximity. Nancy. That if you
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Speaker 1: can put five rounds on target on target, now five
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Speaker 1: of them, that means you're really really close or highly
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Speaker 1: highly skilled. I'm thinking you're really close. I mean, let's
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Speaker 1: talk about it. If you've got a handgun, how many
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Speaker 1: bullets are in the chamber Joe Scott, Well, it's going
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Speaker 1: to be depended upon the type of firearm. If it's
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Speaker 1: a revolver, probably only six. But if you're talking about
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Speaker 1: some semi automatic weapons you can have stacked in there.
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Speaker 1: You can have up to seventeen rounds, perhaps with one
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Speaker 1: in the chamber. Let's just go with six in the chamber,
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Speaker 1: and they shot five times and hit the target five times.
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Speaker 1: Obviously at close range, But if you're trying to figure
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Speaker 1: out if it was at close range, you would look
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Speaker 1: at the victim's body and you would look for, for instance,
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Speaker 1: gunshot residue. Was the gun less than thirty six inches
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Speaker 1: away from the body, which would That's how you find
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Speaker 1: gunshot residue. If you're further away, the residue doesn't hit
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Speaker 1: the clothing or the body. That's wide. Defendants often have
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Speaker 1: their hands tested for GSR gunshot residue. If they're the shooter,
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Speaker 1: they may very well have the residue on their hands.
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Speaker 1: You will look for burning stippling. What would you look
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Speaker 1: for to find out if she was shot at close range?
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott, Yeah, when one of the best examples I've
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Speaker 1: ever heard to give, Nancy, I got to have you
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Speaker 1: come over and teach for me. Sometimes the fact that
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Speaker 1: you'd like to use the water hose description, where you
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Speaker 1: know the further you are away, the more broad the
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Speaker 1: spray pattern is. As you approach to the target, it's
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Speaker 1: going to be tighter and tighter. So not only will
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Speaker 1: you have a defect or hole where the bullet actually enters,
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Speaker 1: but you will have a powder ring that surrounds and
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Speaker 1: the tighter that area is as far as the distribution
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Speaker 1: of the you know, as you put the gunpowder residue
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Speaker 1: or the unburned powder that's burned into the skin, or
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Speaker 1: perhaps the clothing, that's going to give you an indication
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Speaker 1: of range of fire. Once you get outside that, some
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Speaker 1: people will say from eighteen inches to thirty six inches,
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Speaker 1: it begins to kind of fall away because powder, it's
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Speaker 1: not like a bullet. It doesn't have any aerodynamic quality,
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Speaker 1: so it just kind of floats to the ground. Outside
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Speaker 1: of that, it's an indeterminate range. But I'm betting, I'm
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Speaker 1: betting you're going to find some kind of powder on
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Speaker 1: this young woman's body, guaranteed, kind of Jerry Crossen, joining
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Speaker 1: US psychologists on the faculty at Saint Leo University, and
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Speaker 1: author and consultant doctor Jory I, often refer to, for instance,
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Speaker 1: stabbing and strangling deaths as sweetheart murders, not that there's
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Speaker 1: any love lost between them. The victim and the killer.
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Speaker 1: But that year, it's an intimate killing in that you're
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Speaker 1: very close to the victim in proximity. A close range
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Speaker 1: shooting would have the same characteristics. You're in close range
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Speaker 1: to the victim. You're not taking a pot shot out
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Speaker 1: of the car window like the Miami serial killer. You
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Speaker 1: are up close and personal to your victim. And that's
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Speaker 1: a whole other type of psychopathy. The personality is different
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Speaker 1: from say a sniper. Yeah, close like this with a
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Speaker 1: firearm usually reveals, you know, somebody that wants to get
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Speaker 1: in quick and leave quick, you know, So it comes
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Speaker 1: down to time. They want to be ontar, do their
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Speaker 1: deed and get out of there, versus, like you said,
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Speaker 1: stabbing that's close and personal. That takes a little bit
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Speaker 1: more time. They get to see the effect of their
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Speaker 1: you know, their work that they've done with a knife.
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Speaker 1: We're shooting is just you know, you go five shots
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Speaker 1: and body massing, you're out of there. So it comes
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Speaker 1: out close. You would see the victim recoil, you would
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Speaker 1: see her in pain. You would see her crumple to
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Speaker 1: the ground. Some of these shots had to be while
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Speaker 1: she's already down on the ground, probably wearing her pj's
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Speaker 1: at home in the background. You've got children and a babysitter.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut two. This is Christian
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Speaker 1: jew Komo. Yeah, it just doesn't feel fair. It's hard
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Speaker 1: to imagine being in Amanda Lewis's situation. Her sister, Alicia
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Speaker 1: Canalis McGuire was murdered five months ago and no one
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Speaker 1: has been arrested. It's hard enough losing someone you know
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Speaker 1: we were so close to but not having justice for it.
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Speaker 1: And this person is just walking around like nothing ever
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Speaker 1: happened and living their life. That's hard to swallow. Alicia
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Speaker 1: was shot at Amanda's home near Everett. At the time,
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Speaker 1: Amanda was out of town for work, so her sister
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Speaker 1: was staying here to help the nanny with Amanda's three kids.
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Speaker 1: Deputies found Alicia's body near the front door after the
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Speaker 1: nanny called nine one one. I was just just a
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Speaker 1: really horrible time. Since the murder, detectives have not released
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Speaker 1: any information about a person of interest or suspect, and
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Speaker 1: the affidavit for a search warrant, a detective wrote there
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Speaker 1: was a lack of probable cause for a suspect in
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Speaker 1: this case. He said the violence associated with the murder
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Speaker 1: is disturbing, and that it appears to be a targeted attack.
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Speaker 1: Targeted attack that could mean a number of things. Who
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Speaker 1: was Alicia? Take a listen to our cut a one
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Speaker 1: our forensic ki Roo. Alicia is what I want people
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Speaker 1: to remember. I mean, she was an amazing sister, an
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Speaker 1: amazing friend who people amazing Auntie and twenty four year
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Speaker 1: old Alicia can Alis McGuire was a newlywed trying to
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Speaker 1: have a baby of her own when she was gunned
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Speaker 1: down in her sister's doorway. Alicia was babysitting her sister's
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Speaker 1: kids and her kind hearted, selfless sister who died doing
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Speaker 1: what she always did a favor, watching the nieces and nephew.
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Speaker 1: She adored Prime stories with Nancy Grace. There's something about
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Speaker 1: that dichotomy, doctor joy of a young girl, a newlywed
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Speaker 1: trying to start her own family just mowed down and
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Speaker 1: the prime of her life. That seeming innocence of starting
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Speaker 1: fresh and then being gunned down in this way makes
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Speaker 1: it even more poignant if you look at it as
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Speaker 1: a targeted then you start looking at her background. I
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Speaker 1: mean you see like a saint. You know all that
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Speaker 1: she was doing at the time in her life, and
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Speaker 1: you try to think what could possibly bring about a
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Speaker 1: target on this person. Now, according to Ellen Dennis, joining
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Speaker 1: Us reported with a Daily Harold in Everett, a neighbor
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Speaker 1: had video surveillance footage of a single male running away
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Speaker 1: from the murder scene. That is what one neighbor alleged
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Speaker 1: when talking to a lawn person official. Yeah, multiple neighbors
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Speaker 1: heard gunshots and saw somebody in a white tainktop a male.
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Speaker 1: I believe at this scene. You know, though Jess got Morgan.
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Speaker 1: We hear Ellen Dennis describing what was seeing what was
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Speaker 1: caught on video surveillance. But at that time of the night,
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Speaker 1: it's really going to be hard to get a good picture,
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Speaker 1: a face recognition picture of the shooter. They're running and
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Speaker 1: it's two am, Yeah, it would be, and I agree
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Speaker 1: with you, because it's going to be dark they're running away.
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Speaker 1: But here's what's kind of curious about this, Nancy, is
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Speaker 1: the fact that this individual, whoever they are, if this
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Speaker 1: is a suspect, they didn't even take time to put
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Speaker 1: dark clothing on or something that's going to obscure their face.
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Speaker 1: Because what I'm hearing Ellen say is that they were
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Speaker 1: wearing a white tank top. Well, if that's the case,
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Speaker 1: then you can assume that the head and the face
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Speaker 1: are not covered. So I think this goes to the
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Speaker 1: type of perpetrator that we're talking about, somebody that's probably careless,
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Speaker 1: maybe unplanned. I don't know if this was something sudden perhaps,
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't sound like that this is necessarily a
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Speaker 1: professional killer that's involved in the circumstance. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to our cut A three Joanna Small's k R seven.
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Speaker 1: Isaiah is only three from keeper and keep barw she
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Speaker 1: did die. He shouldn't have to understand death, let alone murder,
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Speaker 1: but he does because Aunt Punky Alicia Canalis McGuire was
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Speaker 1: shot to death while he and his five and six
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Speaker 1: year old sisters were sleeping inside their Average home. It
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Speaker 1: was two am and she was shot in the doorway,
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Speaker 1: multiple gunshot wounds. Alicia had been watching the kids for
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Speaker 1: their mom, her sister, Amanda Canalis, who was away on
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Speaker 1: a business trip, and learned of her sister death from
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Speaker 1: their father over the phone. Yeah, that was a hard moment.
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Speaker 1: Ella Dennis joining me reporter with a daily Harold, did
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Speaker 1: you say that one of the neighbors said they heard
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Speaker 1: something like a sledge hammer. That is what one neighbor
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Speaker 1: told Man firstman ig you interesting, what would that have been,
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Speaker 1: Jessice Scott Morgan, if there were five gunshot wounds to
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Speaker 1: the victim, what would have sounded like a sledgehammer? Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, in the middle of the night like this,
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Speaker 1: when you have a firearm going off in a neighborhood,
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Speaker 1: you know, we have to contextualize this and saying think
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Speaker 1: about this is an area where other people live. You know,
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Speaker 1: these sounds like this, this report you're talking about perhaps
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Speaker 1: something that is breaking the sound barrier. If a weaponist
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Speaker 1: discharged and it is going to be loud, and then
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Speaker 1: it's a it's a succession of these. If you're pulling
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Speaker 1: the trigger multiple times, you're going to have this kind
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Speaker 1: of concussive event that's going to go out of sending
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Speaker 1: out sound waves, it's going to come off sounding like
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Speaker 1: someone hitting on a piece of ten with a sledgehammer.
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Speaker 1: More than likely not on a piece of wood that
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Speaker 1: would be blunted, but there'll be a sharp crack like that,
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Speaker 1: and so it's going to get your attention, even if
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Speaker 1: you're asleep. Just think if you're living next to order
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Speaker 1: these folks and you're jolted out of bed by the sound,
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Speaker 1: and not just one, not two, not three, not four,
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Speaker 1: but five times. It's going to sound like the end
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Speaker 1: of the world. It's coming visiting at your doorstep. You know,
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Speaker 1: I was just looking at the timing of this. The
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Speaker 1: murder victim, Alicia was married I July two seventeen. She
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Speaker 1: was killed in September twenty seventeen. She truly was a
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Speaker 1: newly wed to Dante Pride, joining us from the Pride
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Speaker 1: Law firm. A newly wed who in the world would
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Speaker 1: have a vendetta, I guess to young girl that had
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Speaker 1: only been married a couple of months, right, Nancy. I
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Speaker 1: mean that's something to think about, and I would think
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Speaker 1: from the police's perspective, they have to start thinking about
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Speaker 1: jolta decks lovers. Yeah, you have to. And isn't it true,
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Speaker 1: Dante Pride, You're absolutely correct that investigations typically start close
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Speaker 1: to the family. Like you look at the boyfriend, you
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Speaker 1: look at the husband, and you look at the neighbor.
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Speaker 1: You start moving out. Then you start looking at the
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Speaker 1: ex boyfriend and the guy that delivers the pizza and
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Speaker 1: the grocery store clerk. So that's where you would look first,
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Speaker 1: but it's kind of hard for me to believe they've
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Speaker 1: only been married about three months and suddenly it's escalated
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Speaker 1: to a murder scenario, right, So that's why I would
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Speaker 1: think it's someone from the past and by like a
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Speaker 1: current husband that because you know they're still on the high,
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Speaker 1: they're still louy wed and she's only twenty four how
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Speaker 1: much of a pass because she have? That leads me,
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Speaker 1: Dante to look at Everette, the county seat and the
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Speaker 1: largest city in Snahomash County, Washington. The population is about
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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand. That's still a relatively small town. And
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Speaker 1: I know I came from an area that wasn't even incorporated,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't any city at all, So that really narrows
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Speaker 1: your suspect pool, Dante absolutely. And I think the way
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Speaker 1: the crime occurred also narrows your suspect pool, right, because
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Speaker 1: this isn't a random crime that someone got shot with
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Speaker 1: a straight bullet. This is five bullets that were put
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Speaker 1: on target on purpose, and so we know that they
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Speaker 1: targeted this person and so there has to be some
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Speaker 1: connection in some story, and I think that's where the
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Speaker 1: police need to look in order to figure out and
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Speaker 1: unravel this thing. Straight back to Ellen Dennis joining us
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Speaker 1: a reporter with the Daily Herald and Everett where this occurred.
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Speaker 1: I heard you mentioned earlier than in some of the
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Speaker 1: law enforcement filings it said there was no PC probable
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Speaker 1: cause to issue a warrant at this time. Didn't you
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Speaker 1: say that, Ellen Dennis? That is correct. So, Dante Pride,
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Speaker 1: when you hear police admit they don't have PC probable
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Speaker 1: cause to issue a warrant, you know they've hit a
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Speaker 1: dead end. Absolutely. I mean, probable cause is the lowest
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Speaker 1: level standard that we have in our legal system. It's
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Speaker 1: just really a suspicion. Right, Probable cause breaks down to
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Speaker 1: basically a suspicion, I think, and then fill in the blank.
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Speaker 1: I think we should perform the search because and then
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Speaker 1: you give a few facts and you have probable cause,
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Speaker 1: and a judge typically will sign it. That's the law
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Speaker 1: under the constitution. Yes, no, Dante, absolutely so. Right now
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Speaker 1: we have got the cops at a dead end. No answers,
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Speaker 1: no leads. They admit themselves there is no PC for
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Speaker 1: an arrest or even a search warrant. They got nothing,
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Speaker 1: and then out of the blue, a crack in the case.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to reporter Natalie Swabi King five News
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Speaker 1: Patrol perceived a phone call from somebody in the Spokane
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Speaker 1: area who said she had been at a social gathering
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Speaker 1: and a young woman there claimed that she had been
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Speaker 1: hired to kill someone in Snhamas County. The young female
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Speaker 1: would have been sixteen at the time of the crime,
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Speaker 1: and the difficult thing for detectives as she went by
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Speaker 1: different aliases on social media. Now, wait a minute, that
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Speaker 1: had a lot of information, Jackie, Could you play that
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Speaker 1: again please. Patrol perceived a phone call from somebody in
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Speaker 1: the Spokane area who said she had been at a
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Speaker 1: social gathering and a young woman there claimed that she
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Speaker 1: had been hired to kill someone in Snahomas County. The
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Speaker 1: young female would have been sixteen at the time of
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Speaker 1: the crime, and the difficult thing for detectives as she
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Speaker 1: went by different aliases on social media, different aliases on
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Speaker 1: social media bragging that she had been hired to kill
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Speaker 1: someone and Snahomash County. To you, Ellen Dennis, where is
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Speaker 1: Spokane as it relates to Snahomash County? Well can? I
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Speaker 1: would estimate is roughly four hours by car. It is
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Speaker 1: located in Eastern Washington. So it is definitely a cartrid.
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Speaker 1: So what do you make of this, Jessica Morgane got
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Speaker 1: a little girl sixteen years old bragging that she's a
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Speaker 1: hit person at a party. When you said not professional,
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Speaker 1: you were right about that. But a sixteen year old
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Speaker 1: girl a hit man. Plus according to the witness, it
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Speaker 1: was a man that ran away. Yeah. Yeah, And you
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Speaker 1: think about this, and cons can't even keep their mouth
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Speaker 1: shut in prison many times they snitch each other out.
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Speaker 1: Now you've got an individual who is at this age
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Speaker 1: they've got you talk about. You think about cons and
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Speaker 1: the networking prison. You're thinking about a sixteen year old
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Speaker 1: who has access to social media and she's going out
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Speaker 1: and blastemous information at parties. Of course it's going to
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Speaker 1: get out. My question is what would be your motivation
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Speaker 1: for throwing this out there? Is it to improve your
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Speaker 1: social status? Is it to make people fear with her?
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Speaker 1: She's a hired hit girl? Okay, Doctor Jordy Crossing. Why
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Speaker 1: can't people keep their yapp shut? And why would you
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Speaker 1: brag about something like that if it were true? Well,
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Speaker 1: you got to look at the social media. All of
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Speaker 1: this is anonymity, okay, And you can look at the personality,
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Speaker 1: how it develops in morphs within that anonymity they're hiding.
21:57
Speaker 1: So you know, even hearing that, they're going to be
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Speaker 1: questions as well, is this valid? You know? How reliable
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Speaker 1: is this? Is this just something you think about it?
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Speaker 1: Doctor Jory. A teen girl barely sixteen, four hours away
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Speaker 1: in Spokane bragging at a party, probably after she had
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Speaker 1: a couple of drinks or a big fat dubie that
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Speaker 1: she's a hit girl. It doesn't it doesn't really fit
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Speaker 1: with reality. You think about a sixteen year old doing this,
22:26
Speaker 1: But I mean it's still a lead that you know,
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Speaker 1: it's got to be followed, it's got to be run out.
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Speaker 1: Just think about it. A sixteen year old girl bragging,
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Speaker 1: probably drunkenly at a party that four hours away. She
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Speaker 1: was responsible for a hit on an innocent newly wed,
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Speaker 1: a young bride sixteen years old, but they can't find
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Speaker 1: her because she has so many aliases on social media.
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Speaker 1: Jessica Morgan explain what that means. Well, you know, you
22:59
Speaker 1: have individuals and there and they bury themselves. I can't
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Speaker 1: tell you how many times I get friend requests and
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Speaker 1: all kinds of people that are from all over the world.
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Speaker 1: You can tell it, and you don't know who they are,
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Speaker 1: so they're kind of hiding behind this digital curtain. But
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Speaker 1: this is the key. If this sixteen year old girl
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Speaker 1: turns out to be a person of interest in this case,
23:17
Speaker 1: remember my reference to cons earlier in prison, they have
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Speaker 1: a certain level of sophistication. If they can track down
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Speaker 1: who she is, they can apply a certain amount of
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Speaker 1: pressure to her. And trust me, Nancy, she's going to
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Speaker 1: roll over. When they start talking about things like a
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Speaker 1: life imprisonment that you brought about the death of somebody,
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Speaker 1: she's going to give something up. Remember we're not looking
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Speaker 1: for a sixteen year old girl in this case, per
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Speaker 1: the description earlier. We're talking about possibly an adult male
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Speaker 1: that's running away from the house. That's going to be significant.
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Speaker 1: If you pull the thread on that, she's going to
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Speaker 1: come apart. And of course, Dante Pride, you can't threaten
23:53
Speaker 1: or if you ever do find her, she's like a
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Speaker 1: needle in a haystack with a death penalty, because the
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Speaker 1: US Supreme Court affirmed recently that anyone under eighteen cannot
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Speaker 1: get the death penalty in the United States, no matter
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Speaker 1: how many people they killed, including like school shooters, nor
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Speaker 1: can they get elwa life without parole. So that's not
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Speaker 1: anything you could ever hang over her head if you
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Speaker 1: found her right, that's true, and I think it's it's
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Speaker 1: the right decision by the legislature. I mean, children make
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Speaker 1: a lot of poor decisions, and we know in this instance,
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Speaker 1: this young lady made a poor decision. But we know
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Speaker 1: because of her age, she was likely influenced by someone
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Speaker 1: who was older. I mean, that's just how it goes. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know if mass shootings in
24:40
Speaker 1: schools are a quote poor decision, but that said, it
24:46
Speaker 1: is the law of the land. Now. Well, it took
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Speaker 1: months and months to unravel. She went by different aliases
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Speaker 1: on social media that took months to unravel. But once
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Speaker 1: they were able to identify who she was, they discovered
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Speaker 1: that she was the ex girlfriend of Kevin's cousin. The
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Speaker 1: ex girlfriend of Kevin's cousin. Hold on, let me digest
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Speaker 1: what I'm just hearing. The ex sixteen year old girl
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Speaker 1: is the ex girlfriend of Kevin's cousin. And Ellen Dennis
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Speaker 1: joining us in the Daily Harold and Everett, who is Kevin?
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Speaker 1: Kevin Lewis is a man who resided in Sahomish County
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Speaker 1: at the time of the shooting. He was formerly the
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Speaker 1: partner of the victim sister. Kevin Lewis, thirty four year old,
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Speaker 1: is the ex husband of the murder victims sister. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let that so ken, the sixteen year old girl probably
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Speaker 1: drunk at a party bragging that she's a hit man
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Speaker 1: four hours away is the ex girlfriend Wait, I need
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Speaker 1: a family's tree here the ex girlfriend of the cousin
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Speaker 1: of the murder victims sisters husband. Okay, whoa is anybody
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Speaker 1: beside me getting clarity? Take a listen to our cut
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Speaker 1: four Komo. The accused seventeen year old girl in this
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Speaker 1: case told a couple of friends in Spokane that she
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Speaker 1: had killed someone here in Snohomish County. It turns out
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Speaker 1: those girls contacted investigators here and that ultimately led to
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Speaker 1: these arrests. Alicia Cannellis McGuire was a caregiver of a
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Speaker 1: loved sister and aunt and a newly wed. She was
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Speaker 1: the girl who said I love you every time she
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Speaker 1: said goodbye, but nobody expected her life to be cut
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Speaker 1: short at just twenty four years old. It's hard enough
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Speaker 1: losing someone you know we were so close to but
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Speaker 1: not having justice for it. But justice could come after
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Speaker 1: all a year and a half after her murder. Alicia
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Speaker 1: was Amanda Lewis's sister and now listen to our cut
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Speaker 1: five Komo. Three people have been arrested in the suspected
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Speaker 1: murder for hire. Prosecutors say twenty year old Jared and Phelps,
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Speaker 1: a cousin of Kevin's, and a seventeen year old girl
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Speaker 1: from Spokane had been hired by the thirty one year
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Speaker 1: old to kill his wife, but that night, Amanda's sister, Alicia,
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Speaker 1: who was babysitting her kids, answered the door and took
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Speaker 1: the fatal bullet. I was just a really horrible time.
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Speaker 1: Amanda and Kevin had been married for eight years and
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Speaker 1: have three children. Kevin is currently serving three years in
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Speaker 1: prison for assaulting his ex wife. Court records say the
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Speaker 1: seventeen year old girl claims she and Pumps were promised
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Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars for the killing. Court documents say cell
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Speaker 1: phone records and social media posts revealed trails of evidence
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Speaker 1: that led to all three arrests, and all three are
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Speaker 1: facing different levels of first degree murder. Kevin Lewis will
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Speaker 1: be back in court. Tomorrow so his bond can be set.
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Speaker 1: Phelps bond has been set at five million dollars. Let
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Speaker 1: me understand something. The father of three, Kevin Lewis, age
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Speaker 1: thirty four, pays two teenagers to go kill his ex wife.
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Speaker 1: They go to the door and they shoot the woman
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Speaker 1: that comes to the door in pj's in a case
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Speaker 1: of murderous mistaken identity. They gunned down her little sister
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Speaker 1: who was babysitting that night. Is that what is being alleged,
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Speaker 1: Ellen Dennis? That is correct. Levin Lewis, the ex husband,
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Speaker 1: had made threats to his former wife the target, and
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Speaker 1: he was actually in sharving a sentence in prison at
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Speaker 1: the time for assaulting her. Take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: cut seven. This is Natalie Swaby Kingthonnews. With search warrants,
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Speaker 1: investigators obtained phone records. Both of the suspects phones were
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Speaker 1: in the same location at the same time, traveling across
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Speaker 1: the state to western Washington. They actually met up with
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Speaker 1: Kevin and he took them to the house where they
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Speaker 1: were supposed to commit the crime. Detectives say social media
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Speaker 1: also provided a trail of evidence, including a picture from
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Speaker 1: the male suspect allegedly posted a snapchat that showed hundred
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Speaker 1: dollar bills fanned out a few hours after the murder.
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Speaker 1: Sixteen year old young woman. The eighteen year old Mail
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Speaker 1: had been paid by Kevin, had been hired to come
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Speaker 1: out from Spokane to Sahamash County to essentially murder Kevin's
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Speaker 1: ex wife, and then they drove back. The murder for
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Speaker 1: higher case is the reason three suspects are now encusted,
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Speaker 1: at least to give them some answers as to what
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Speaker 1: happened exactly and frankly, some justice. These suspects, Jared and Phelps,
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Speaker 1: age eighteen, the alleged shooter, and that is Kevin Lewis,
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Speaker 1: the husband's cousin. Jared and Phelps, age eighteen. Then you've
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Speaker 1: got Alexis Hall, sixteen years old. That's Phelps's girlfriend, the
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Speaker 1: one apparently bragging at the party that she was a
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Speaker 1: hit person. So Dante Pride joining me, high profile lawyer
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Speaker 1: out of San Diego. You can find him at the
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Speaker 1: Pride Law Firm. Dante Pride. I just love it when
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Speaker 1: I can get pings and I can actually track two
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Speaker 1: suspects phones together in the same car traveling the four
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Speaker 1: hours from Spokane to Snahomash County, right to the doorstep
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Speaker 1: of the dead victim. And then to top it all off,
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Speaker 1: they shoot the wrong person. I mean, why else would
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Speaker 1: they travel all the way from Spokane to Snahomash County together,
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Speaker 1: They don't know anybody there, and she's bragging about it
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Speaker 1: at a party. You know, the old World War two
31:25
Speaker 1: slogan started in brit with the Brits loose lips sink ships.
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Speaker 1: True awards were never spoken, Dante Pride, True awards were
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Speaker 1: never spoken, And from attorney's perspective, was very difficult when
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Speaker 1: you're climbed to the one who spoke the words, and
31:41
Speaker 1: then they have evidence showing that you go four hours
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Speaker 1: outside of your normal area the one night when the
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Speaker 1: murder occurs, and then never do that again. So uphill
31:50
Speaker 1: battle for any attorney miss case for these people. Jessica Morgan,
31:54
Speaker 1: please outline what we know about the electronic trade all
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Speaker 1: these two left behind themselves. Yeah, you know, reflectively, it's
32:05
Speaker 1: it is almost like a fairy tale where someone's leaving
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Speaker 1: breadcrumbs and that's the beauty of the world that we
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Speaker 1: live in now. From a from a forensic standpoint, so
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Speaker 1: every when, not only do they have one cell phone, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: they've got two. They're traveling in tandem. And you're going
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Speaker 1: to a location that, as was spoken of just a
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Speaker 1: moment ago, that is not familiar to you, or it's
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Speaker 1: not your common, common locale that you're going to inhabit,
32:30
Speaker 1: you know, when you're moving around with your cell phone,
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Speaker 1: say in home, like these individuals back and Spokane. It's
32:35
Speaker 1: in the eastern part of the state. You can get
32:37
Speaker 1: hits all over there, and it's gonna if you look
32:39
Speaker 1: at it on a dot graph, it's gonna be highly concentrated.
32:42
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, you've got this, You've got
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Speaker 1: this thin line that's kind of in tandem, where these
32:48
Speaker 1: two dots going down the road. And as a reporter
32:51
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, this is a four hour drive, Nancy, And
32:54
Speaker 1: so these little dots are a company. Every time they're
32:56
Speaker 1: hitting a cell tower, every time it's bouncing off, they're
32:59
Speaker 1: given an occasion this trail. And to our attorney's point,
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Speaker 1: this is a nightmare. This is a nightmare to try
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Speaker 1: to defeat this in court. And then when they show up,
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Speaker 1: they're going to show up at the precise location. These
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Speaker 1: two people are in the car together, not to mention
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Speaker 1: the ex husband who are in proximity. How can you
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Speaker 1: explain that away? Yeah, they meet up with the ex
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Speaker 1: husband for what one thirty am chat. Yeah, this is
33:25
Speaker 1: what happens when you hire teenagers to commit a murder
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Speaker 1: and as not the first time. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: crime Stories with Nancy Grace. This is what happens when
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Speaker 1: you hire teenagers to commit a murder and as not
33:59
Speaker 1: the first time. Take a listen to our cut twenty.
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Speaker 1: This is Tammy Matuza Komo. When another pars attained to
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Speaker 1: commit murder, well, you know what happens. Everything goes wrong.
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Speaker 1: Court documents paint a deliberate and disturbing murder for higher scheme.
34:18
Speaker 1: Bellevue police say Sharon Kelly hired a seventeen year old
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Speaker 1: boy to murder her ex husband, Baron Lee, and offered
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Speaker 1: to pay the teenager thirteen thousand dollars something like this
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Speaker 1: is rare, It is rare. On the day of the
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Speaker 1: shooting in July, police say, the seventeen year old got
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Speaker 1: his friend to drive him to the overlook at Lakemont
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Speaker 1: Apartments in Bellevue, where court documents say he was going
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Speaker 1: to cap someone and empty the clip. Police say the
34:42
Speaker 1: seventeen year old gunman ambushed Lee, shooting him nine times.
34:46
Speaker 1: The victim fell to the ground, the suspects stood over
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Speaker 1: him and continued to fire. According to court documents, Lee
34:53
Speaker 1: said he couldn't think of anyone who would want to
34:55
Speaker 1: kill him besides his ex wife, saying they were in
34:57
Speaker 1: the midst of a very acrimonious custom battle that also
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Speaker 1: included a financial motive for Kelly to sole custody of
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Speaker 1: their child. We know that children were involved in the
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Speaker 1: current case, and in that case, you got the teen
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Speaker 1: boys standing over the victim shooting him as he is prone,
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Speaker 1: and the victim still lives and can identify the teen
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Speaker 1: hit man. So I don't get it, doctor Jory. Why
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Speaker 1: would you hire a teen, much less two teams to
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Speaker 1: commit a murder? Well, they could be several reasons. One
35:36
Speaker 1: that they can get away with it basically with a
35:39
Speaker 1: light sentence that are going to face a death penalty,
35:41
Speaker 1: but they're going to implicate you. You think you can't
35:44
Speaker 1: crack a sixteen year old girl for Pete's sake. Yeah,
35:47
Speaker 1: but a lot of times they don't think that far
35:49
Speaker 1: down the road, Okay, The anger, the aggression, the hatred,
35:53
Speaker 1: the rage really puts a tunnel vision on their cognitive process.
35:58
Speaker 1: They want to eliminate this person. This seems to be
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Speaker 1: an easy way out, a quick way, maybe even an
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Speaker 1: inexpensive I mean twenty four hundred dollars. I mean you
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Speaker 1: can't even get decent home repair at that cost to you.
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Speaker 1: Dante Pride, high profile lawyer out of San Diego at
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Speaker 1: the Probably Law firm here is the kicker. And I
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Speaker 1: think doctor Jordy mentioned it. We see a lot in
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Speaker 1: dope cases where the doper will hand the cry, the
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Speaker 1: myth or whatever to a juvenile and then stand or
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Speaker 1: place himself obscured, maybe in a car, around a bush
36:34
Speaker 1: or corner, and watch the team sell dope. Because the
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Speaker 1: team will only get six weeks in GeV jail. An
36:44
Speaker 1: adult could go down for life if he's a third
36:47
Speaker 1: time offender. So a lot of times you see criminals
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Speaker 1: specifically picking teams to do the deed, but in this case,
36:57
Speaker 1: the teams will definitely rat out the Every time I
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Speaker 1: mean crimes, when there are more than one individual who
37:07
Speaker 1: perpetrated the crime, they tell on each other. So these
37:11
Speaker 1: criminals don't have the forethought. As one of our other
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Speaker 1: talents that has said they're not thinking at all, and
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Speaker 1: it's clear. And if this is correct, doctor Jory, he
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Speaker 1: agreed to have his wife gunned down at the doorway
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Speaker 1: with his three children asleep in the next room. What
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Speaker 1: does that tell you, doctor Jory? Very cold blood. There's
37:36
Speaker 1: a lot of hatred, a lot of anger. He hasn't
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Speaker 1: been getting his way. This seemed like his only recourse
37:43
Speaker 1: out of it, not thinking down the road of what
37:47
Speaker 1: it would do to the children finding the mother there
37:51
Speaker 1: as if the cell phone trail wasn't enough. Take a
37:53
Speaker 1: listen to our cut seven. This is Jackie Howard a
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Speaker 1: crime online. The two hired to kill Amanda Canala were
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Speaker 1: teenagers at the time, eighteen year old Jaredin Phelps and
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Speaker 1: his then girlfriend, sixteen year old Alexis Hale. The pair
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Speaker 1: drove to the Canalis home around two am and knocked
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Speaker 1: on the door. Amanda Canalis was in New York on
38:13
Speaker 1: business and her sister was babysitting Canalis's three children. When
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Speaker 1: Alicia Canalis McGuire opened the front door, she was shot
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Speaker 1: five times. The pair was reportedly paid twenty four hundred
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Speaker 1: dollars for the hit. That payment showed up in photos
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Speaker 1: on Jaredin Phelps social media, as both teenagers bragged about
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Speaker 1: what they had done. He captioned the photos with effing
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Speaker 1: never guess what I did for this check. Alexis Hale,
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Speaker 1: on the other hand, told several acquaintances that she had
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Speaker 1: been hired to kill someone. Phelps reportedly used the money
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Speaker 1: to buy Timberland boots, of Ferragamo belt buckle, and several tattoos.
38:50
Speaker 1: The mastermind behind the hit Amanda Canalis's ex husband. He
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Speaker 1: hired his cousin Phelps to get his ex wife out
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Speaker 1: of the way. What a bunch oft they post online?
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Speaker 1: Guess what I did to get this f and paycheck
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Speaker 1: and post one hundred dollars bills? Really well, I wanted
39:10
Speaker 1: to take a listen to this. This is what it
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Speaker 1: all boils down to. Our cut A two K Lewis
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Speaker 1: is already serving prison time for attacking Amanda after she
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Speaker 1: ended their marriage. Initially, I wasn't going to do any
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Speaker 1: interviews at this point, but then a couple of people
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Speaker 1: actually reached out to me about how my experiences have
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Speaker 1: impacted them, and so I thought it was important to share.
39:37
Speaker 1: Amanda says her rex husband wasn't initially physically abusive, but
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Speaker 1: she says he was controlling and emotionally abusive. So I
39:44
Speaker 1: think it's important for people to be aware and recognize
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Speaker 1: red flags. And if I had maybe recognized that earlier on,
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Speaker 1: my sister might still be here. When Amanda says Lewis
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Speaker 1: was physically abusive, attacking her outside her Lynwood home, and
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Speaker 1: I should have moved at that point because it was
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Speaker 1: the same house where he had someone show up to
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Speaker 1: murder me and ended up killing my sister. In the end,
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Speaker 1: it takes a jury about three and a half hours
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Speaker 1: to convict Kevin Lewis first degree murder. How does the
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Speaker 1: story end? Take a Listen to our friend Dave mack
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Speaker 1: a crime online. It took a jury less than three
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Speaker 1: and a half hours to convict Kevin Lewis of aggravated
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Speaker 1: first degree murder and a murder for hire that left
40:31
Speaker 1: the target sister dead. The jury of seven women and
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Speaker 1: five men spent nearly six weeks in Snohomas County Superior
40:37
Speaker 1: Court absorbing testimony about the killing of twenty four year
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Speaker 1: old Alicia Canalis McGuire. Jared On Phelps pleaded guilty and
40:44
Speaker 1: testified against Lewis at trial, claiming he only knew the
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Speaker 1: address he was supposed to target, not the name of
40:49
Speaker 1: the woman he was supposed to kill. Phelps and his
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Speaker 1: friend Alex Hale drove from Spokane to Snahomas County, where
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Speaker 1: Lewis directed them to the home of his ex wife.
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Speaker 1: Hale pleaded guilty to her heart and was sentenced to
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Speaker 1: fifteen years. Phelps got thirty one and a half years,
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Speaker 1: and Lewis sentenced to life without parole. Is it the
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Speaker 1: end of the story? I say no, because the children
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Speaker 1: in the home that night, well forever, how this ingrained
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Speaker 1: in their minds. Nancy Grace Crimes Stories, signing off goodbye friend,