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Traitors, Lisa Rinna Real Housewives’ Punishment with Zack Peter · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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  Speaker 5: Woo, woo.
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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have one of
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  Speaker 1: your favorites, Zach Peter from the hit podcast, No Filter
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  Speaker 1: with Zach Peter, my friend.
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  Speaker 3: He is on it.
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  Speaker 1: He is doing so much for us all in his
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  Speaker 1: research and analogies and everything else. Well, let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: As of now, we're recording this on Tuesday afternoon and
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  Speaker 1: we heard from Savannah Guthrie this morning and saying that
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  Speaker 1: she is now they're offering 1 million to anybody that
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  Speaker 1: can offer information that would lead to the return of
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  Speaker 1: her mother, whether she's well or in fact passed. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know if that means leading to the
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  Speaker 1: person who did it or just getting her mom. It
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  Speaker 1: sounded like it was just to get to the mom.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like she just wants the body back now.
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  Speaker 1: And, um, I mean, to me, it's very, very sad,
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  Speaker 1: but I also feel like this is a place where
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  Speaker 1: after 24 days, they're just kind of like, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: We want this to have some type of conclusion. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Even if we don't get the answer.
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  Speaker 1: This is saying we're going to probably get on with
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  Speaker 1: our lives a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? I mean, I don't know. I've
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  Speaker 2: covered this every day for the last 24 days. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you have. And I was shocked that the family didn't
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  Speaker 2: offer anything sooner. I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, why wouldn't this have been like the
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  Speaker 1: first week?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the first couple of days, all that was
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  Speaker 2: offered was $ 2, 500.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That was from the- The sheriff. Sheriffs, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And then it was like, then I saw 50,000.
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  Speaker 2: The FBI came in, they upped it to 50, and
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  Speaker 2: then it got up to 100. And then people started
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  Speaker 2: crowdfunding themselves and they started to go fund me and
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  Speaker 2: people were making private donations, which was just looking even
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  Speaker 2: more bizarre for the family. So, I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know where we even go with Nancy Guthrie at this point.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's- I don't even know if they find her.
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  Speaker 2: This is another JonBenet Ramsey.
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  Speaker 3: I said that a couple weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I think that this is going to be
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  Speaker 1: one of those things that's sadly going to be one
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  Speaker 1: of those mysteries forever. I hope not, but I just
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  Speaker 1: have that feeling. And we're going to look back on
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  Speaker 1: it and we go, remember that?
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  Speaker 2: But how does that happen, Heather? In 2026, where everything
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  Speaker 2: is surveillance, we all have a GPS in our pocket. Like,
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  Speaker 2: there's cameras everywhere. This woman had a pacemaker that connected
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  Speaker 2: to Bluetooth, and suddenly this whole lady just disappeared, and
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  Speaker 2: we have no trace of her for 24 days. Like,
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  Speaker 2: that to me is the wildest, the wildest thing. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe that this was a random kidnapping. You
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  Speaker 2: have juicy crimes, and you have.
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  Speaker 1: So I have juicy crimes, and I just spoke to
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  Speaker 1: Matt Murphy about this, which will air in a couple days.
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  Speaker 3: So I'll say the preview. He believes... his theory.
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  Speaker 1: You know, is that she is gone and that it
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  Speaker 1: was something very deviant and they took the body to
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  Speaker 1: hide the evidence. Yeah. And, and it was deviant. Like
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't, he said, you don't age out of essaying.
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  Speaker 1: So it doesn't mean that that, you know, doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, that's, that's what he that's his theory, which
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of people have said that theory is
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  Speaker 1: being someone that's prosecuted like heinous crimes. I, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know all the connections I've talked.
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  Speaker 3: About it as well. It's weird. It's strange.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many weird coincidences and strange things that you've
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  Speaker 1: talked about that I've said that at this point, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I, I, I'm really sad too. But as
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  Speaker 1: far as someone to report on it, like that's, what's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen is, We are going to stop reporting
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  Speaker 1: on it as well. Because if there's nothing else that's
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  Speaker 1: out there, if no more information gets put out there
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  Speaker 1: in finding it, then we move on to something else.
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  Speaker 2: I think something happened to her and the kidnapping was
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  Speaker 2: the cover-up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only thing that makes sense. Yeah, which is
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  Speaker 2: basically what he's saying.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't consider the essay part of it.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like she knows it from what she said.
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  Speaker 2: I think she knows it. I think she's known it
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  Speaker 2: for a while.
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  Speaker 3: And accepted it.
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  Speaker 1: But also by offering the million dollars, almost like, even
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  Speaker 1: if we never hear from anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Just, I feel good knowing that I offered a million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: I've accepted that, you know, she's dancing in heaven with
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  Speaker 1: my dad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And like, she just, at this point, I think she's
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  Speaker 1: wants to take care of her own mental health and
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  Speaker 1: wants to move on. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And you can't blame someone for wanting to do that.
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  Speaker 1: She's mom. She has kids of her own. Like, Eventually,
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  Speaker 1: you have to. And it's been so public that it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she has to kind of put a little
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  Speaker 1: button on it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there has to be some closure. And I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I agree. Finally putting up the reward, I think, does
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  Speaker 2: kind of at least know that at this point, she's
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  Speaker 2: done everything that they can. I thought it was really
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  Speaker 2: big of them to also donate the $ 500, 000 to help,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with abducted children and children that go missing.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that that was also... you know, really big
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  Speaker 2: on them. Cause that was like another big thing. Another
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  Speaker 2: big piece of criticism that I think the public had
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  Speaker 2: was that, you know, there are so many other cases
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  Speaker 2: where people and kids go missing and they don't get
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  Speaker 2: this level of attention and publicity.
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  Speaker 1: Which again, it's very nice that she has to do that.
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  Speaker 1: But again, it's like the same type of thing in
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  Speaker 1: this world that we live. It's like, can I even
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  Speaker 1: have one moment, whether I'm celebrating something great, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: an Olympic win, but you did this wrong, you know,
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  Speaker 1: or I'm, trying to find my mother and I'm, I
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  Speaker 1: have a right to be sad and grieving and freaking out. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, why is it that you're, because you're privileged,
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  Speaker 1: we know about your mother and not other people.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm part of this world.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like, I get it where it's like, but
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  Speaker 1: that is nice that they did that. They covered all
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  Speaker 1: the bases and like.
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  Speaker 2: I get it too. I think the part that for me,
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  Speaker 2: and I think I've, you know, seen online of more
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  Speaker 2: of like the, the part that was more frustrating from
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  Speaker 2: the public was it's like, To me, it was just
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  Speaker 2: very strange that we didn't see the family. If you
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  Speaker 2: have these resources and this access, wouldn't you be turning
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  Speaker 2: over every stone? Wouldn't you be on the Today Show
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  Speaker 2: every single morning trying to keep your mother's face relevant
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  Speaker 2: and around? Everything about the family's behavior to me was
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  Speaker 2: just very bizarre and strange, even with the reward now
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  Speaker 2: coming 24 days late, which I don't think will substantiate
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  Speaker 2: into anything, unfortunately, I think. The case has just run cold.
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  Speaker 2: I think the sheriff has completely butchered the case. Whether
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  Speaker 2: that was intentional or not, I don't know. I've always
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  Speaker 2: said he's either completely incompetent or he's compromised. And I
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  Speaker 2: just think there's going to be a lot of questions
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  Speaker 2: out there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, on the bright side, maybe it will. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if it is some weirdo dude, that weirdo guy might
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  Speaker 1: have a mom, might have a sister, might have some
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  Speaker 1: friend who's.
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  Speaker 2: Like— Heather, he's kept this lady for 24 days. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think he's going to have a come-to-Jesus moment.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think that she— I' m saying— Yeah. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think she's on earth anymore. No. I'm saying, but somebody
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  Speaker 1: might know something. Yeah. Or even, even if you don't
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  Speaker 1: have good, if you don't have more than I have
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  Speaker 1: a hunch. Yeah. The weirdo two streets down this lived
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  Speaker 1: with his mother for five years.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's a weirdo and they could call and go,
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  Speaker 1: can you just check out that guy? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And if it turns out, If he is.
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  Speaker 1: Responsible or he confesses, then, hey, you get a million dollars. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like if you, even if you have a hunch,
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  Speaker 1: but you didn't want to be that mean person like
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  Speaker 1: they did with the poor Uber driver, then maybe you,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe you could have us. So I think
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  Speaker 1: in that case. Okay, let's move on to something else. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so Whitney Rose of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City wrote,
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  Speaker 1: Got to do a fun, boozy drag brunch. And the
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  Speaker 1: videos have gone all over. And she is definitely buzzed,
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  Speaker 1: if not more. And the women get to come up
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  Speaker 1: and ask questions. And this girl comes up and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to know, do you know what happened
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  Speaker 1: with the person.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the woman asking the question struck.
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  Speaker 1: And then Whitney's like, are you asking me if I
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  Speaker 1: know what happened on the plane?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I do. And Meredith is a fucking bitch. And
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  Speaker 3: she's a liar. And then the crowd's like, woo! And
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  Speaker 3: so she's like, yeah! Like, this is her starting moment.
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  Speaker 3: I hate her more than I hate Lisa Barlow.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason I didn't talk about it is because
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  Speaker 1: they have bigger lawyers than I do.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a legal issue. And let's just say, Meredith,
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  Speaker 3: assaulted her. Didn't she say that?
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  Speaker 2: Accosted her.
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  Speaker 3: Accosted her. So I guess that doesn't mean hands on her.
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  Speaker 3: That would just mean screaming at her, which we already
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  Speaker 3: know that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I don't know why people were screaming like
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  Speaker 1: they were getting scoop into scoop because I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they were like, she was just saying, we know she
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  Speaker 1: hates Meredith.
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think it was just the fact
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  Speaker 2: that they liked that she was going so hard on
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  Speaker 2: Meredith and Lisa and calling her every name in the book. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That was why, I mean, she was lit and she
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  Speaker 2: was filling that crowd.
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  Speaker 1: Well, now that it's all out, when I went to
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  Speaker 1: the white party that Kyle threw, um, where it was
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  Speaker 1: part of their ultimate girls trip tour.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So they had like all the housewives there and Whitney
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  Speaker 1: looked beautiful and she's very nice. And we were talking
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  Speaker 1: and across the way was Meredith and Lisa. And she
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  Speaker 1: was no way talking to them. And then, uh, and then, um,
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  Speaker 1: Bronwyn shows up and they're good and they're talking and, uh, there,
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  Speaker 1: I'm standing there and I didn't share this because I
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  Speaker 1: thought I'm not going to be invited to these parties
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  Speaker 1: unless I tell. But now that you're talking about it
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  Speaker 1: on a brat, a brunch, I'll tell you. So that
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  Speaker 1: we were standing there. Cause I did, I did like
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  Speaker 1: mention it. And then someone's like, you never told on Patreon.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I don't want to like
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  Speaker 1: ruin the plot. And I'm like, oh, fuck that.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, so I'm standing there and Giselle comes over
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  Speaker 1: and she and Whitney know each other well from the
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  Speaker 1: Thailand or.
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  Speaker 3: Wherever they went.
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  Speaker 1: And Lisa Barlow is on this current thing that they're filming.
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  Speaker 1: She's representing Salt Lake. And they took that moment to
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  Speaker 1: really let Giselle know, you better watch out for Lisa Barlow. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everything she said on the stage, she said there.
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  Speaker 1: And that, you know, she's a liar and she will
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  Speaker 1: take something that you tell her and use it against you. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all the things that they think they're doing
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  Speaker 1: behind the scenes as far as social media related and
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  Speaker 1: giving info to a third party and all of that. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they stayed on either ends of this party. And then
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  Speaker 1: what she says here is like, and I might get fired.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what are you doing, girl? Don't throw
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  Speaker 1: that shit around.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You just lost your life savings on an MLM that
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  Speaker 1: now is, now you have good opportunity coming back with
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  Speaker 1: this business. Trust me, you do not want to get
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  Speaker 1: fired from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
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  Speaker 3: You are not going to sell.
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  Speaker 1: More lip tint when you are a former housewife versus
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  Speaker 1: being on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, where's Monica Garcia? Like, I just, I'm sure she'll
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  Speaker 2: get fined. I don't think she'll get fired.
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  Speaker 3: I think she'll only get a strict talking to.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. Because I honestly don't think she'll get in trouble
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  Speaker 1: that much in trouble because it's just going to make
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  Speaker 1: people want to watch it when they come back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I think she'll get a strict talking to and
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  Speaker 1: I think they'll say you can no longer do live events, brunches, dinners, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: You can no longer do live events on stage, whether it's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what whoever's hosting and it's not the drag
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  Speaker 1: queen's you know fault like.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's why they stopped letting them all do live
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  Speaker 2: podcasts i'm surprised that they even let them do these
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  Speaker 2: stupid drag.
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  Speaker 3: Brunches i don't think she asked i mean i think
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  Speaker 3: i think well because.
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  Speaker 2: She's an ally she needs to support the community remember
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  Speaker 2: she did her tour or gay tour well i i think.
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  Speaker 1: That what it is is that it's like the rules
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  Speaker 1: don't apply to everybody and that's what they get mad
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  Speaker 1: about yeah And so I think what happens is when
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  Speaker 1: they are new, they're so scared. They're like, okay, we will,
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  Speaker 1: I'll make sure that I don't even do my mother's
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  Speaker 1: podcast without making sure that Bravo approves that and everything.
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  Speaker 1: And then after a while, they're like, what do I,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do what I want. Then they do it.
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  Speaker 1: And if they behave and they're fine, then, then Bravo
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  Speaker 1: is not on their ass. And then when they start
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  Speaker 1: doing this, then they're, then they get a strict talking to,
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, now you can't do that.
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  Speaker 3: Or they, You know, or they have been fined.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: I do know housewives that have bet that in the
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  Speaker 1: contract you get fined if you write something nasty in
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  Speaker 1: social media and then you get fined for that, which
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  Speaker 1: is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's crazy. Well, Rinna said she got fined, what, $ 50, 000
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  Speaker 2: in her book?
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  Speaker 1: $ 50, 000.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: When I feel like it all feeds each other, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, unless you're going to do what Australia does
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  Speaker 1: and takes the social media stuff from the reality stars
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  Speaker 1: while they're performing and you're posting and and like protecting
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  Speaker 1: them in that way because before they used to have
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  Speaker 1: to write the blogs yeah and the blogs were approved
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  Speaker 1: yeah and they knew and then everyone would read each
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  Speaker 1: other's blogs and that's what they would be fighting about
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  Speaker 1: on the reunion yeah now it's You know, I heard
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  Speaker 1: what you said at the Drag Brunch. I heard what
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  Speaker 1: you said on Watch Robbins Live. I heard what you
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  Speaker 1: said on the podcast. I heard what you said at BravoCon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Bravo really fumbles the ball with that, though,
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  Speaker 2: because they try to gatekeep everything and prevent them from... Like,
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  Speaker 2: this is a great moment. It's going to lead to
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  Speaker 2: a great moment on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's going to cause a fight.
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  Speaker 3: I totally agree.
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  Speaker 2: Like, this is what Hulu does really well with, like,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Yeah. Is they lean into... Like,
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  Speaker 2: Bravo gets so fucking stupid with this shit sometimes, and
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: it pisses me off because... I remember at the very beginning,
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  Speaker 2: like my podcast drove so many fights and storylines. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Ariana versus Lala came from my podcast. Lindsay versus Hannah
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  Speaker 2: Burner came from my podcast. Like so many. Lisa Rinna
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  Speaker 2: and Kathy came from my podcast. Like so many of
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  Speaker 2: those and my clips have been played on the show.
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  Speaker 2: And then eventually Bravo was like, no, we don't like that.
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  Speaker 2: And so they started gatekeeping everything and preventing people from
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  Speaker 2: doing anything. interviews and stuff and then it just kind
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  Speaker 2: of screwed up the whole game whereas like hulu has
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  Speaker 2: leaned into these women being tiktok stars and like allows
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  Speaker 2: that to unfold organically i mean they could be a
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  Speaker 2: little quicker about getting the seasons out but like they've
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: embraced it because at some point the worlds are going
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: to merge and rather than bravo like okay like you
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: really think alex baskin getting the exclusive with his bravo
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: podcast is really going to do Like watch what happens
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: live and Alex Baskin's podcast are now like gatekeeping those interviews.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: And look at like his interview with Jax. Like what
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: if like the audience hated that because he like gave
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Jax a pass for doing drugs on Vanderpump Rules. And
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: like the audience sees through that shit.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: And also, you know what?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take back also the feeling that I
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: had when Katie and Tamara and whoever leaked all that
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: was happening in the OC because it didn't make.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Us watch it any less.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: No.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: So at this point, I agree with you. Yeah.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Let them fricking run wild, talk where they want to talk,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: promote their stuff. They got to make the most money
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: they can make while they're in this position. And their
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: job is to be on the show, but their job
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: is being on a show and doing podcasts and doing
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: videos and doing interview shows. And so if they're going
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: to be, yeah, snarky on Watch What Happens Live, and
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: he always is putting them in a position to say
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: horrible shit about each other. And, you know, and they
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: don't like it when you take the fifth every time.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: So then it's like, so.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Then, you know, when they can do a long hour
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: podcast with someone and actually Yeah, maybe there'll be some
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: little snarky storyline. But maybe there'll be also something really
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: interesting that was like, wow, I didn't know that you
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: were a registered nurse.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Like, that's... Oh, my God, I really like you now. Like,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: by doing that.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: You're talking about Anna Marie?
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: No, well, I mean, I'm just bringing up anything where...
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Because I always been doing.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: It, you know, a long time, too.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: So I would always have a new housewife kind of
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: come and get their whole life story, which I still
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: like to do. Now, I kind of am like, well...
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: you know, if there's an interest there, I still like it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Cause I still, what I love is when people were like,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I never liked this person. And now I heard them
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: on show and I liked them because we talked for
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: an hour and 20 minutes, but you know, uh, yeah, I.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Thought it was, I thought it was funny.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Um, and you know, of course she got boozy and
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: she said, I'm never going to drink when I'm on
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: stage again, because she got real buzzed at the, uh,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Bravo con. Yeah. And then she's also, you know, sitting
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: there throughout the season concerned about Meredith's drinking. Yep.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: And, I mean, of course I don't blame her. They
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: get nervous, you know.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I just love her with her glass of wine in
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: her hand.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I've had, you know, a lot of housewives do live
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: shows before, and because they're not live performers, you know,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: especially in the beginning, now they have a lot more
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: confidence after doing BravoCon and stuff.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: They get real nervous.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they drink.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: And they do kind of overdrink because they're scared, you know.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: And that can lead to problems. And I have been
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: at a live show of my own that led to
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: some real problems. But, you know, anyway, then they have
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: their own show and they have to do it. But
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I like her skirt and we'll see. That's what I
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: don't think much is going to happen.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: No. Give me more of these drag brunches, though. I
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: want them to.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to keep them all. Yeah, I love it.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: It's great. OK, let's talk about the traitors.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: So if you are not watching it, it won't matter
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: because today is the finale and the reunion. So I
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: don't really care if you want to skip like five minutes,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: but we're going to talk about it right now.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: So I'm all caught up.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: And I.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I really do like, I've talked about this before the show.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I really do like it.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: It does for something that when it first started, I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: was like, so you're a traitor.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: You're faithful.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Like that's the whole game of just wondering who's lying.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Is there really enough to this? But they do such
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: great things with the casting and they do switch it
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: up every season. So what the rules that applied last
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: season don't apply this season per se.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: And I mean, it is fun.
• 20:19
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• 20:36
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• 20:39
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• 20:42
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• 20:49
  Speaker 4: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: filed against me.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: what would you do if it was given back?
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: home dad. What happens next? When I came in, he
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: started crying.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: happens next.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara, I'm
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: not going to pull punches. You can use your voice
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: even if it's shaped.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: It's a good season too. It's a good cast. I mean,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I don't love the faithful that are left on the show,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: but like the cast itself was good. Like Lisa Rinna
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: was great on this show. Candace, great on the show. Portia, great.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Like the housewives came and they delivered a lot. I
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: actually think Rob is a brilliant trader. He's made it
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: all the way to the end.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: He made it all the way to the end.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: And I do think it's really interesting where then he would,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: they like turn it on people and they're like, you know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: he's a traitor and he's like, says to the other girl, no,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I just think it's weird that you were like cold
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: to me today.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Like just starting, just starting it up.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And it's just so, I mean, I just saw a
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: video of someone going, I rented a, um, he invited
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: 20 of his friends and they had like a traitor's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: weekend and like on, you know, some whatever place.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: And I thought, oh my God.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: And they were like playing, they were doing the tape,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: kicking people out and how, who is it going to be? And,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I think it's, I have a whole idea for a show.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going to just come to my Patreon. It's too
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: risky to say it here, but I have an idea
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: for a show that's like a Traders. But so when
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: we left off, I love that the two skating.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Johnny and Tara.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: And I thought that was so brilliant.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Now, would you have tried to split them up and
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: kill one or keep them together to make everyone think
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: that they're the final two Traders?
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't even think about that. Only because I
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: think they're they're so dumb that like I mean, and
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I'm enjoying their friendship, but they're so bad at this game.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody thinks that they're actually traitors, though.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: There's no way like it would be way too obvious
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: for them to be that close, that friendly and for
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: them to be the two traitors. Like it's too on
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the nose that I don't think anybody realistically believes that
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: they're traitors at this point. Or maybe one of them.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: But I think the only way you would, the only
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: reason to break them up is to break up their alliance.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: But I don't know if their alliance is even strong.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Like it's just the two of them. They're just holding
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: on for dear life, praying they make it to the end.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, it really is just a game of like
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: lying and being a good actor.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: And so it is fun. So who do you think,
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: what's your prediction?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Because Think, this is going to air this morning and
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: then you're going to, people will listen.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: So you have a chance of getting it correct.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I think the traitors are going to win. I don't
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: see the faithful winning. Okay. I don't know if the
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: traitors are going to... I think Rob... It's hard because
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: now Rob has a lot of heat on him. But
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: the thing is, there are two traitors. There's Eric and Rob.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Are the faithful really going to be able to... So in.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: The end, there'll be the two of them, and then
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: there'll be like four faithfuls left?
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Three faithful left because it's Tara, Johnny, and then... Mark,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: and Mara. One of them has to get killed. So
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: it's three faithful and two.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, we don't know who they're going to kill.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: We don't know who they're going to murder yet.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: So there's... I think they're going to murder Johnny.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to murder Johnny because the girl
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: is a waste and so.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Is the other guy. It would be a waste. They
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: need Mark because Mark is at least on Rob. Mark
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and Maura are totally on Rob's side. Like they're, you know,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: fully buying into the fact that they think he's a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: faithful and everyone seems to be on Eric. So I
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: could see Rob turning on Eric. Definitely could see Rob
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: turning on Eric. I mean, he turned on Rinna and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Candace so easily.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: I could definitely see him turning on Rob. On him.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: And I also feel like he's someone who like really
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: wants the money too.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: And needs the money. So he doesn't fucking care.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: No.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: And I could see him going all the way to
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: the end.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: He is good to look at.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Him and his overalls. I love his overalls.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: And I love all their fun outfits. Like that makes
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: it fun.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Maura's wig is a little intense, but yeah.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Why does she wear wigs and berets all day?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: And like different ones.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: But they're so big.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: It's so obviously a wig.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Her face is so perfect.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: She's absolutely got the most gorgeous face. Yeah.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Where did she come from? Love Island or something?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Love is Blind?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't know. No, I think Love Island. But like
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: a UK Love Island? It's some dating show.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: She's, that girl's stunning.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She looks great. Yeah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, so Lisa Renner was on the show and she,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: you know, had a great moment.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I'm the most iconic traitor!
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: And so TMZ has an exclusive saying that she was
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: allegedly roofied at the traitor's premiere party. And I was like,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I know you have a book coming out, and I'm
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: not saying this didn't happen, but it's just weird.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: And why this would... It doesn't look good to the producers.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: No.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: It doesn't look good that this is happening at Hollywood parties.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: And that it's her, of all the people to Rufy... Yeah. I.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Is this a real story? Like, is this a BS story?
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: This is so strange.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's a BS story. She probably got a
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: little lit that night. Because I remember seeing like social
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: media clips of them watching the show. And she didn't see,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe she was a little tipsy, but she
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: didn't seem like she was an issue. Because in those
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: same social media clips, you're seeing her react to Bean
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: when they reveal that she's the traitor in the first episode.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: But to me, this felt more of like a leak
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: from Colton's team. because they know the reunion's coming up.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Because he said, I was with her all night. I
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: took care of her.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: And I could tell that she had only had a
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: little to drink, and she wasn't herself.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: And I immediately told her team and I made sure
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: that they took her out of there right away. Like
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: it was just way too.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I totally agree because he's still coming off us being
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: reminded that he was absolutely horrific. Yeah. When he was
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: still in the closet and had a fiance and didn't
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: know what he was going to do.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: He made that girl's life hell, Cassie.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And in every way. And so, yes, now he
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: wants to create an image of I love women. I
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: protect women. I am your now I'm the gay best
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: friend that you want to bring to the gay bar.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'll make sure you don't get roofied.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Because I have a tracker on you and I'll see
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: where you go. No, I just... It seemed like such
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: a clear leak from his team because they know he
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: gets obliterated at the reunion. They know that they come
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: gunning for him. And so they're trying to, you know, preemptively.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: But maybe they won't come gunning for him at the reunion.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, we know that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: They do. Yeah. Well, I don't know what gets aired,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: but they do. He like walks off. I've heard he
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: walks off stage and they had to like get him
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: to come back out and make sure nobody talked about Cassie.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And like it was a whole thing.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think his team knows that. So they're
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: trying to, you know, plant these stories while also writing
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: off the coattails of Reyna's book tour right now. Yeah.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Which is great timing.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Because, I mean, she just did a she just did
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: an event at Barnes & Noble and she talked about how, like,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: you know, she kind of brings up the stalker situation
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: at the reunion. And and then Colton unfollowed her.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about it.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: What happened with Cassie and a thing called a tracker?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Do you know that they can do that, you guys? Yeah,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: we do know, Lisa. Why are you talking about that?
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: You're so angry.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I just want her to say to Colton, you're so angry.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: That would be amazing.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, so her book is out, and TMZ came up
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: with this today. Lisa Rinna addresses rumors about husband Harry
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Hamlin is gay. And then it says, Lisa Rinna finally
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: addresses the rumors finally well she was on Juicy Scoop
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: and I believe 2016 maybe it was 2017 I think
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: it was 16 and we talked about it and I
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: said to her then Don't you think those rumors existed
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: because he was in a movie, which I can remember
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: every juicy movie. I probably saw this when I was
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: 10 and it was, her husband was a young actor
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: at the time and he played a guy where.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: He is the.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Lover to a, so there's a man and woman couple.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I think he was the lover. I don't know what,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: but it was basically they were a couple and the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: husband says, starts to go to the gym and be
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: attracted they like literally there's a scene like a gym
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: scene where the married to a woman is getting attracted
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: to the other guy and they end up being lovers
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and the wife ends up being like really accepting of
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: it and it was just a very it was a
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: movie to It was a good movie to come out
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: at the time. Yeah.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Because this was, has always been happening.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Just, you know, I just went on a tour of
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Palm Springs and I thought about all the people that
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: were leaving their wives for a weekend to write a
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: movie script in Palm Springs in 1955. But anyway, I,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: so I, but in it, there were sexual acting scenes
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: between Harry Hamlin and this guy.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: And I know that's where people thought, oh, he must
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: be gay. And I said, do you think that's what
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: it is? And she's like, yes, that is exactly where
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: it came from.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: But there's like a whole backstory of like him having
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: a boyfriend and living in Canada. Isn't that like a whole, like,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: isn't that the rumor that he has like a secret
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: lover in Canada? Maybe that's what she addresses.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: On my thing, we just address the fact that he
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: chose to take this role, which, you know, a lot
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: of people would have turned down. Yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Especially back then.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was like literally late 70s when he
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: played this part.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: But that's the rumor is that he has.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: He has like a secret lover in Canada and he
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: like flies back and forth to go be with the
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: lover in Canada and then to be with Lisa here
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: in California.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say I think that's a lie.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's true.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I think that's a total lie. And I think that's
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: one that anyone could make. There's one thing about real
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: housewife fans is nothing makes them happier than to think
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: that your marriage is crumbling, is fake, that your husband's
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: cheating on you or that your husband's gay. Yeah. Because
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: they are already jealous that you're living this fabulous life
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: that they're watching from their couch. And, you know, the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: fact that she's been married to him for so long. Yeah.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Is a huge success.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Especially in entertainment, but in any world, that she's thin
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: and gorgeous and can dance around at her age.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: And so, yeah, somebody probably just think... And you know what?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: When you've been married that long and you're actors and stuff, yeah,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: some people can go weeks without seeing their husband. And
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that they're not good. It doesn't mean
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: that they want to marry anybody else or fuck anyone else.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Also, You know what? I hate to break it to you, though.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: People get older, and they don't need to have that
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: much sex as they did when they were 24.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think they have a bad relationship.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I don't believe he has a secret lover in Canada.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: But I don't even think she really addresses it in
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the book other than saying he's heterosexual. And, like, that's, like,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: the extent of it. Yeah. So, I mean, I would
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: love for her to get into something.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: She always said the thing, like, let's talk about the husband.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she gets into that, but from
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: what I remember her saying, and I think she was
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: on my show before that scene happened, the famous scene.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I think she was, she knew to turn it up.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She knew to turn it up at all the occasions.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: So if something pissed her off, turn it up for
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the cameras. I think they're taught that by producers. Like, hey,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't do this at the PTA meeting or at
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: your sister's baby shower, but you're going to do it
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: at this dinner party when there's 12 cameras around you
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: and you're getting paid. If something pisses you off, take
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: your emotions to a level that you wouldn't normally because
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: we're making TV.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, I don't even think they need
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: to tell you that. I think when a camera's on you,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: you just feel pressure to deliver. And then she said
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: that The producers knew because she said that they ask
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: you all these questions and they try to like find
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: your buttons. And so she's like, I'm pretty sure they
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: told Kim to say that knowing that it would provoke me,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: knowing that we hadn't eaten. We had just traveled into Amsterdam.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Like it was the perfect start. They knew what they
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: were doing. They got Kim riled up. They knew what
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: button to have Kim push. And Kim followed her orders
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: and got Rin at a snap. Yeah.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Well, good.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: It was a great moment. One of the best moments.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Is there anything else juicy from the book?
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Not that I've read so far. I mean, she talks
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: about like Andy publishing her text messages. They all get
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: mad about that. Yeah. What are you going to do
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: about it? I will say she goes hard at Andy
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: and Bravo. Oh, she does. She goes hard. I was
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: surprised at how hard she went.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Cause I'm like, what does she say?
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Nothing. She just like, you know, talks about how they
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: exploit the women and how they use them and how,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: you know, she didn't feel like they had her back
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: after she lost her mom and that last season. And
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: she was getting all these like terrible messages online and
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: the network didn't have her back. And, um, it's interesting.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Cause I just saw her do another interview where she said,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: my mom had passed and then she had to fly
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: to Mexico to film the show. And it was like
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: three days later. And yeah, she's like, I could have said, I,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I don't, I need a break. But I am a
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: worker bee, which she is, and she's thirsty, and she
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to miss being on camera, and she knows
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: how it works. Like, who knows what story could break
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: when you're not there, so you want to be there.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: And she's like, and I know my mom would have
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: been like, yeah, of course, go do it.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Don't miss this. Any parent would say that to their kid.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: And no parent's going to be like, oh, when I die,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I want you to, like, you know, sit in your
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: room for a year.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Of course not.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: So.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: It's interesting that in the book, though, she's kind of
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: like saying, like, I didn't have to get the grace
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: that I should have gotten.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she does tell that story in the book. And
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: she did make it seem like the show couldn't go
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: on without her is what she says is like the
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: producers knew that the other women wouldn't deliver on filming.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: And so she had to show up to bring something
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: to bring the drama because the show wouldn't be able
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: to the ladies wouldn't be able to carry it without her.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: And she says that she shouldn't have gone on the
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: trip to Mexico, but she also kind of felt pressured to.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Which one was that? I don't remember them going. She
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: said there was a fight between Sutton and Crystal. And
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: that's what she talks about. But the Sutton and Crystal fight,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I felt like, wasn't that like in a cabin? Yeah,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: maybe there was a second fight. Maybe. Because I don't
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: remember them. I don't remember a Mexico trip.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Not one that like Crystal and Sutton were a part of.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: But yeah, she says that she shouldn't have. She. shouldn't
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: have gone, but she also felt pressure to go and,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: you know, that the network could have been better about
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: like telling her, don't worry about not coming. Like it's okay.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: But they didn't, they like wanted her to go, even
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: though it only been like three days since her mom passed.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Well, nothing else.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't gotten that far into it yet,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: but she gets a lot of the housewife stuff done
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: up front.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I just want to follow up on one thing about
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the Olympics. Um, I said the girls hockey team. I
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: meant to say the women's. That was a big problem.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: And then also this, you know, Jack, this is a
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: weird matrix type, what universe, which dimension are we in?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: So you guys know that Jack Hughes was the kid,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: the kid, see, I didn't say that. He's a 24-year-old man,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: hockey player. He got the winning shot right before a
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: hockey player stick hit him in the face and he
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: like lost his teeth so he won the winning in
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: overtime um goal in the movie the miracle which is
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: based on the true story of when we won last
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: time which was 46 years ago there's a scene in
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: the movie someone was re-watching it and they're going through
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: who's going to make the cut on the team and
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: the last person to be cut and not make the
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: team in real life was named jack hughes So then
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: 46 years later, Jack Hughes wins the winning goal.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: They are not related. It just happened to have worked
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: out that way.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: What are the odds of that? Glitch in the matrix?
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Thanks to TikTok.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: There are so many weird glitches or whatever you want
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: to call it or coincidences or putting it out in
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: the universe and somehow it comes back.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: It doesn't scare me. I think it's kind of like cool.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: But last week I talked about how the thing where
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: you remember that the Monopoly guy had the monocle, that
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: whole thing.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: What's the Met?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Mandela effect.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Mandela effect. That's whole one thing.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: And then there's this other one where it's just like, oh, wait,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: isn't that strange? Or and it happens a lot like
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: in movies.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Shazam.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Where you look into what's the Shazam thing that there
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: was no Shazam movie or he it wasn't with Shaq.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: It was with someone else.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Who was the guy? It's not Shaq. No, it wasn't Shaq.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: The whole Shazam thing is really weird.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, about how the movie existed and the guy was
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: in it, but then it didn't really exist and everyone
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: remembers that he was in it.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: It was just an ad or something, but it never
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: was a real movie.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. See, I think it's stuff like this. There are
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: these glitches in the Matrix and then it ends up
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: being like a Mandela effect. We go on different timelines
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: and then sometimes the timelines merge. Did you see We
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Broke Space?
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: When?
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: There was a, I don't know when it happened, but
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: there was a story.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: When the Epstein files dropped?
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: When the Epstein files dropped. There was a big fracture
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: in space. They like took a picture of it and
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: there's like a, I don't know, somebody like cracked space.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Wait, do you know what I, in searching for things recently,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: were you aware that in January of 2024, there was
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: this weird alien thing that happened at the Miami mall?
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Oh yes.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: How did I miss that?
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Because they wanted us to miss it. Okay. So apparently
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: it has something to do with Antarctica. And I guess
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: in Antarctica is where the aliens live on Earth. And
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: something about how the coordinates of that mall were similar
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: to the coordinates of Antarctica.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: They were turned around. It would have been the exact spot.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: And so these people were at the Miami mall.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Everybody was. It was January.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: And- What the accounts were, though no one has it
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: really on their phone. Yeah. And, of course, with AI
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: and everything, who knows? But that they looked like 9
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: to 10 feet, like black figures, but they were, like,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: not touchable.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: They were, like, glitching.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: And then all these cops came, and they said, oh,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: it's because the teenagers got in a fight. Yeah.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: And then, supposedly.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: allegedly whatever, is if they did have anything on their phone,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: it just disappears.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The aliens erased it. Yeah, and the whole theory
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: is they were supposed to go to Antarctica, which is
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: where the alien headquarters on Earth is, but then the
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: coordinates got wrong, so they accidentally went to the Miami mall,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: and then nobody was supposed to see that, and so
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: now it's been, like, scrubbed. Yeah.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, all those things, and you're like, well, there's
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: got to be somebody that lives in Miami that knows
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: somebody that was at that mall that day.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: They're in a bunker somewhere. They're hiding off the grid.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: So it is very weird.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, they're going to release the UFO
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: files now. Are we going to.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Get a binder of that, too? Yeah. We're going to
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: get Jessica Krause from House and Habit walking out with
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: her binder of the aliens.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: That'll be the new thing. And I'm just like, whatever.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, like, it's so... I'm so desensitized.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what? Okay. We have aliens.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: I love TJ.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, the baby.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Love Lady with the babies. And this one is Tyra.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: He did the whole Tyra thing, and this Tyra just
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: looks just like her. I mean, it's just amazing what
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: they can do on AI. Anyway, that was really cute. But,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you know, she's trying to build this ice cream empire.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Gross.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Which is hot ice cream.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Gross. Because she says, I want to have a legacy,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: and I want my legacy, I guess, to be Ben
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: and Jerry's, whatever.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: It's hot ice cream.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: And she said, you know, so many ice cream stores
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: cannot do well in the winter. Right. So that is
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: why she created hot ice cream. So it's, I mean,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I remember being little and you'd get ice cream, right?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: And then my sister and I would stir it up
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and then we'd be like, it's soup. Yeah.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: So isn't that what it is?
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: No, it's hot ice cream. It's not like melted room
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: temperature or like kind of cold, like melted ice cream.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: It's like hot, like hot chocolate.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: So it's basically, yeah, and then it's just hot chocolate
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: or like a mousse.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: She says it's not hot chocolate though. It's like a
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: warm mousse. Which just sounds gross. There's nothing about, nothing
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: about hot ice cream makes me want to be like, ooh,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: that sounds delicious. Like, I want to eat Tyra Banks'
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: hot ice cream. Like, that just all sounds gross.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I also think something that's in.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Like custard, right?
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I also just think.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Something in like a sweet, bad for you food thing
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: is just not the way to go for longevity.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't, like if I was going to get
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: any kind of food thing, I would want like a
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: carbless bread.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I would want, you know, high protein, whatever. A dessert
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: that has like protein that's good for you. Like the
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: last thing I'd be doing is like, look at where
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Susie Cakes, not Susie Cakes, but what was the cupcakes
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: that just went under?
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, sprinkles.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Like I just know that just stuff is like not anyway.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: She got in a big argument and Tyra Banks is
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: seeking more than $ 50, 000 in sanctions against her ex-partner in
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the ice cream company. I guess a landline. I don't even,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't even bother to look it up because I
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: just didn't care. But like, there you go. What did
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: you think of the show? Did she take accountability?
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Did she not?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, not really. I mean, I don't know. I
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: feel like I watched it and I was like, wow,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: it's very obvious that this entire docu series or whatever
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: was like designed to like make Tyra look bad. And
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: not that Tyra was good. She looked bad and she
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: was bad at that time. But like that was reality
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: TV at that time. And you know what? All of
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: us were sitting there watching her being like, call her
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: fat do this her teeth her hair like we wanted
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: to see her make the girl shave their head and
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: cry like we were watching it and eating popcorn and
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: being like yes and now all of a sudden everybody
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: on their moral high horse wants to be like oh
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: that was so all of those reality shows were awful
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: remember celebrity rehab with gary bucey and they're like having seizures.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: And like let me tell you their celebrity rehab my
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: celebrity rehab sorry Chelsea Lately had just begun.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: I swear to God, it was like our fourth episode.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: And Dr.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Drew was on there along with this other comedian. I
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: can't remember her name. But anyway, afterwards, he.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Goes, I have to show you.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: And he had like his computer out. The show that
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be on. I can't believe this is
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: going to be on TV.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I'm helping celebrities that are drug addicted and we're going
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: through the process of it. Yeah. And so even then
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: he was like, I cannot believe we're doing this. I
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: cannot believe that they said yes to this. So yeah,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: it's all gonna, it's like, you know, I said that
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: the other day, I'm like, it's going to be rock
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: a love.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: It's going to be, uh, Flavor Flav.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Flavor Flav.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: We're just going to do those and, you know, let's
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: examine how bad we were 20 years ago.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: But I thought this was pretty interesting.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: So Kelly Catrone, who also had her own reality show
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: where she was just a PR person. I didn't watch
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: this one seriously, but it was just like she ran
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: a PR company and she was just like a bitch.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: She had a bitchy face. She was a bitch. She
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: was harsh.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: She still has a bitchy face.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: And she says.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Side note, Jay, meaning Jay Manuel, in the fashion industry,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: he worked at a MAC makeup counter in Toronto. Tyra
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: boosted him. And how did he repay her here? By
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: writing a novel about her and the show, which no
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: one bought. And now he is trying to become relevant
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: by being out there trashing her again. Maybe he will
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: get a deal as a spokesperson for spray tanning or filler.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Well, the cheeks were kind of alarming.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: They were a lot.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Um, He was so incredibly rude to me my first
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: day on the show. He came up to me and said,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: welcome to the show. You are in the ejector seat.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Meaning anyone who sat in that seat, Andre, et cetera,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: was fired. Oddly enough, he was something at the end
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: of the season. That's what he did at the end
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: of the season. So I talked about this too with
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Brandon and Julian. Some people thought I was like defending Tyra.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I just wasn't, I just didn't feel sorry for him. No.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't feel sorry for any of them because
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: I bought into it when I watched the documentary and
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, my God, Tyra's a bitch. And listen,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: she's like a lot.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Like these were three dudes that like, you know, were
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: loyal to her because she was like the boss on
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: And then.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: You know, they, she completely discarded them the second they
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: got fired. And like the, you know, Miss J and
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: the strokes and like, I feel bad for all of that.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, if you go back and
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: rewatch their scenes on the show, they were just as bad. Like,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: and why aren't we calling out Janice Dickens, who was
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: like the worst and the most ruthless on that show.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: And we covered it for like 20 seconds in the
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: documentary and, And then just glossed over Janice and like
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: made Tyra, you know, the tyrant on that show. And granted, yes,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: she was the boss. It was her show. But they
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: were all complicit in that culture.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is really funny when people are like, when,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: you know, they all got picked. And I remember I
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: said this too. None of them were pretty. Like, I
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, is that the whole thing? It's like,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: we're just going to take a skinny... person with a
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: sad story and like try to make them cute. I
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: don't know, but they'd come out there and then, so
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: there's a trend going on or maybe it's not a trend,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: but maybe a few people had the same funny idea
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: where it's like, So a guy's like holding a rotisserie chicken.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: He's like, after trying to.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Get on America's Next Top Model by saying my grandmother
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: died on a chicken bone, now I'm modeling with a
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: rotisserie chicken.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, that is so funny.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: It is. It's why we loved Simon Cowell on American Idol.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: People loved that type. The harshness. The harshness, right? And
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: that's what we tuned in to watch. Was it great? No,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: we look back and then we're like, oh my God,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: that was terrible. But also America's Next Top Model was
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: on the show for many, many years.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: But that's what it is. But like, yeah, it's entertainment.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: It's being harsh.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: It's saying like you, when you signed up for those shows,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: you knew what you were signing up for. And you
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: kind of knew that that was your cross to bear.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Like you just knew I can get edited good. Like
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Housewives now, trust me, 20 years from now, we're going
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: to have a documentary series about real Housewives.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: It's not going to be 20. It's going to be
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: like two and a half years from now.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: And Andy Cohen's the worst. And the housewives, they didn't
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: know any better. And even though, you know, Crystal Minkoff
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: signed on 20 years into it, she was still accosted
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: on TV. Like, it's going to be that type of bullshit.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: It's like, we all, you know what you're signing up
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: for at this point. You know that it's not going
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: to be. And you just are hoping that at some point,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: you know, it pays off for you in the end.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Right. You sign up for the show and you, you know,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: you know you're going to get divorced. Yeah. You know
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: you're going to get divorced. It's like, which year will
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: that be?
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or you're brought in when you go in with
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: the plan, you know? Yeah, exactly. Eric and Jane, you
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: go in knowing you're going to get out.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: But I will say about Tyra, one thing I do
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: remember is she had her show in L.A., and then
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: she took it to New York. And we had some
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: people from that show that then worked on our show.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: And they did not have good things to say because
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: they said— Like, one thing, they were just really blindsided,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: but then I'm like, well, if the whole production's moving
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: to New York, probably because of this show and stuff. Again, legally, like,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: are you supposed, you know, maybe she was told not
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: to give the staff a heads up.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's all, like, a legal thing.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: But the other thing I always remember is that at Christmastime,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: the story that was told to me, whether it's true
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: or not, I don't know, that for their bonus Christmas treat,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: She gave $ 5 gift cards to iTunes.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: What?
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: That was it.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Not even $ 10?
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Not even $ 10.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Can't even get an album with $ 5.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I remember $ 5 was what I remember in my head.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was $ 10, maybe it was even $ 25.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: But it was iTunes gift cards.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: And.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: And, you know, and then her whole shtick was being cheap.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Like that was a big thing on the talk show
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: was like coupons and everything.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: So it did kind of track.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: But I do think people that are thrifty and like
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: a good deal doesn't mean that they're not generous with
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: their employees and tipping and everything. But there there's a story.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: But I kind of like that. OK, this is interesting.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: So this is Crystal Harris, who was at one time
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Crystal Hafner. She was Hugh Hefner's wife, when he died,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: she was also in the magazines and she, what's happened
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: with her is a few years ago when she was
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: still in there, she, at the house, she said she
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: found like photos and stuff of girls that were naked,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Polaroids and things. And she said, I ripped them up
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: and she let some people know that. Then she was
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: writing her book and she told the people on the board,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going to write my book about my life.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: And, the good and the bad. I just want, you know,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: and they're like, okay, fine.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: And then she heard from the people on the board
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: that they want to take these, all these scrapbooks that
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Hef did, which he'd write about his conquests and the
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: girls and he had photos and all this stuff in
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: these like scrapbooks. And the board wants to like release
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: them in like a library or make them public. So
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: she was proactive and got, Gloria Allred, and they did
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: a press conference about how, you know, so she's protecting
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: the women that she doesn't know that Hef did have
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: sex with or whatever and say they should not be
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: released because some of them could be underage. And that
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: was really, that was interesting. And then Holly Madison, who
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: was also his girlfriend before, spoke about it and kind
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: of mentioned it, but she doesn't say Crystal's name.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: She's like, oh, this woman is doing this.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: And she goes, which I find interesting because I believe
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I had a boyfriend who cheated on me and I
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: believe he filmed me and might put it out there.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: So I want to proactively like put it out there.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: And so she always has.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: A story, doesn't she?
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Who, Holly?
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Holly. Every time, anytime she can like jump on the
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Playboy coattails, she has a new story about an unlocked
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: trauma memory that came out from 20 years ago. Like
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: there's always something, a new diagnosis, a new, I can't
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: with Holly.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I try.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: She's a sweet girl. She is. But there's always a
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: story with her.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: And then one of the diaries, one of the pieces
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: of paper that you're in the scrapbook, I think that
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Crystal shared was this little girl. She sends her photo
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: and she's like 10 or something. And she wrote the
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: letter and I guess have saved it. And she was like,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: I love the girl next door. I want to be
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: on that show. What do I have to do to
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: get there and live there? And, you know, then people
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: are like.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Again, this is what's so was so horrible about this show. Yeah.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Is that they made it look fun.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: And they did. I mean, if you were 10, you
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: were like, I.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Want to live in a pink bedroom with my three
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: best friends and go to Vegas with their grandpa. Like
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: they never made it clear that anyone during that show
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: had to fuck him.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: So, of course, some 10-year-old girl thinks that could be fun.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Just like before that, people would look at their dad's
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Playboys and read with the girls' bubble writing how they'd
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: fill out the form of what their favorite things are.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: And you'd be like, that's such a glamorous life.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: I would do this. Yeah, because you just think you're
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: a pretty model. You live in this big house. There's
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: a grotto and all these fancy parties.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: And the outfits were so cute. The bunny outfits and
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff. So I thought that was...
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: So that's what is happening there. But, you know, I mean,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: it shouldn't be out there. I mean, let us not
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: forget that Brooke Shields was.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: 10 and in the magazine when she was in Pretty Baby.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: It's so weird when you look back at that stuff.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah, I mean, I think obviously they're going
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: to try to capitalize off of half as much as
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: they possibly can, but it's like at some point, Like
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: you have to reflect and be like, these are, you know,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: women who have moved on or even young girls that
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: have moved on from that chapter of their life that
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: to have that come back out again, whether it's in
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: a museum or to be released publicly, like they don't
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: want to go through that again. It's awful.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: How would you, why would they even think to do it? Okay.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Brittany is back. I guess she took a small break.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: The matrix released her. It was real.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: It's really bad. It's really bad. She's spitting around, you know,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the house. Look at the hangers. It's just a rack.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: She's wearing a felt hat, cowboy boots. She's pulling down
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: the skirt. She has a trench coat, makeup, hair.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: It's bad. It's really bad. I mean, I think she's
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: on something for sure.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: They wanted a free Britney and there you go. There's
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: a free Britney for you.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: And I just feel like, um, then I came across
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: this video where again, someone did a whole AI thing
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: and she's singing and she's, I mean, it's amazing.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Like you don't really need to do anything anymore.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Someone could put you in an outfit, have you dance around.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: You don't even have to leave the fucking house. I
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: thought there were, I mean, I, there are definitely AI
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: commercials that Duncan commercial and, um, the Dunkin' Donuts commercial
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: with all the Friends cast and everybody.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: That was them when they were young in a Dunkin's commercial.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't even have to show up to
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: do that Super Bowl commercial.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's crazy how AI is just, I mean, that's
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: going to be the future. It's not going to be
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: me and you here. It's going to be our AI avatars.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: I think that, and then I think there's going to be, like,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: a revert back where, like, people are going to, like,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: not want to phone at all, want to meet in person,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: want to.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: Read real books.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: It's going to reset, yeah. In time. It has to
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: get really bad and really digital first. It has to
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: be WALL-E. We have to be fat in the little things,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: just like big bulbs just going around everywhere before we
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: decide to take us. Who's WALL-E? WALL-E. The Disney movie
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: WALL-E about the future.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think I ever saw that one.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: And it takes place in the future. And all of
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: the people, they're just like these big fat, they're just,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: and their avatars are like what they are, you know?
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: And they've just become, they're just, they don't move. They
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: don't do anything. So there's, they're just like these big,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: fat blobs in a chair that just kind of like goes,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: they don't even have to walk anywhere.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, um, okay. I, um, all right.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I want to also say, speaking of AI, I talked
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: about this the other day, there was a video out
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: where this guy says, thinks it's Gillette's Giselaide. And it
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: really looked like her, like you, like you walked up
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: on her living her life in Quebec, living something normal.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I thank goodness when I talked about it said, um,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: It could very well be AI, and if it's not, well,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: then it's pretty compelling, and this woman really looks like her.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: Well, it's come out it was AI.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: And the original person that did it, his whole page
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: is doing AI videos. Yeah. But then people pick it
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: up and it gets 50,000 views or whatever. So then
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: you don't know who the originator is. And you're like,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: oh my God, is this real?
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: But it wasn't. So I just wanted to say that.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: But one thing I did want to say about Gisley
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: that people don't know is that she had this boyfriend who,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: because I read about it and I wanted to find
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: more up. When everybody says she was at the Clinton's wedding,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: because there's a photo of her and they're walking down
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: the aisle, she was her boyfriend's date.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, so she wasn't invited.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: She was the boyfriend's date. And his name is Ted Waitt. W-A-I-T-T.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: And they dated.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Let me see.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: They dated.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: He was the co-founder of Gateway Inc., They were in
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: a romantic relationship for seven years. It began around 2003
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: or 2004, shortly after her long-term association with Jeffrey Epstein
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: had ended, according to Google. And so she was fully
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: involved in his life. And he had a yacht called
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Plan B. which is also weird. And she helped require,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: like acquire it and renovate it, this big fancy yacht.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: And that's where, you know, people went on that yacht
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: as friends of them as a couple.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: And it had a helipad and a submarine.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: And, you know, on Epstein Island, there's that weird thing
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: where there was like a hole in it where people could,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: and they're like, are people coming up from a submarine?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: So nobody knew that they were going there.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Or, they just had a summary the court um so
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: the relationship was described you know that they they they
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: got together um they separated in 2010 so from 2004
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: to around 2011 they were together and it was the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: relationship ended due to a blackmail attempt by a Florida
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: lawyer who threatened to name Maxwell in civil lawsuits against
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Epstein unless um Ted Waite paid a large sum of money.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: That's what this is saying when I asked him what's
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: the deal with their relationship. Waite resisted the blackmail, but
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: the ordeal reportedly led to their split, and that's based
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: on Yahoo Finance article. And then he married a model,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't want anything to do, and he never
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: talks about Ghislaine or anything. But they had a full-on normal, like,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: billionaire girlfriend relationship.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: Also... With elites hanging out on their yacht.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Eating babies.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: Or pizza. Or grape soda.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Domino's pizza.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Or nothing.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Or nothing, yeah.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Or maybe during that time, I don't know. Because I'm like,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: that's where the timeline, I'm really confused. There was the
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: stuff that happened before he was convicted. Then there was
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: the stuff that was after. Then there's this time that
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: she was with him. Then, then they broke up in 2011.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: So then did she go back to working with Jeffrey Epstein?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: I know people listening know the answer to what I'm asking,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: but it is just like such an overwhelming thing. But
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I thought this part was kind of interesting that she
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: was with this billionaire and, um, But, like, there was
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: something else, like, immediately, like, when she got arrested, like,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: he got rid of the submarine and, like, got real quiet, like,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't want anything to do with anything.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: So I don't know. There you go.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Then this weird couple, this is from Julia Hub, these
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: people bought the ranch in New Mexico that he ran
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: the baby-making farm at, allegedly, and they're going to turn
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: it into some Christian ranch.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Thing and i mean i'm not.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Saying there's a certain type of person that looks like.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: They eat i mean they look like they've eaten some
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: baby back ribs in their day like that just looks
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: so and.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: There's some big billionaire donor christian people so who knows
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: okay the tourette's thing is crazy and you said you
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: did not know about this i can't believe i know
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: about something you don't okay so There was the BAFTA's
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: award happened and this guy, John Davidson, was there because
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: his movie was being honored and he has Tourette's and
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: the thing was about Tourette's and he's an activist for Tourette's.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: While there were two black men on stage, Michael B.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Jordan being one of them, about to give an award,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: from the audience, this man screamed out.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: The N-word.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: More than once.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. And....
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: It was like, well, then what they, I found out
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: they did ask him to, they did not ask him.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: They did get him to leave, watched it in another room.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: And there's just been major fallout from it. As you
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: can imagine, a black jury member just quit over the,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: the organization's unforgivable way they handled the situation. Um, so yeah, it,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: it's bad. It was, I mean, obviously horrible. But, I mean,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Say what you will about Tourette's. Don't you
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: have to have the thought in your head in order
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: for it to come out.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Of your mouth? Yeah, it's not just... I mean, come on.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: Two black men are on stage and suddenly it just
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: comes out of your mouth?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: I said it was.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Like out of like a Larry David episode of Curb
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: and it really is.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's like, I'm sorry. It's beyond horrific.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: It's awful.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: It's also fucking funny. Like, it's like, are you fucking
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: kidding me?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: You had a Tourette's person who did a movie about
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Tourette's and we're supposed to be sympathetic to people who
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: have Tourette's and then you're on stage and this fucking
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: asshole like screams that out.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Um, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I thought this was
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: really funny. This guy, I am Sam Pez, said, when
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: you're watching the new episode of Real Housewives of Beverly
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Hills after.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: Show and this person shows up.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Who is this?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I think it's so funny for people that watch Housewives
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: and they've done it on every franchise where like.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: They thought someone was going to pop or whatever. So
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: they bring them to all the parties, but then they
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: basically didn't. And so they're just.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Cutting around them, like, where you're like, wait, why is
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: that person back in the corner of the room?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Like, that old lady that they had, was it Erica?
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: And whose birthday was it? Erica and... Whose birthday was it? Dorit.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: And there was, like, that random old lady that was, like,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: friends with Bose that, like, was sitting next to her.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, who is this lady? And why did
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: we not comb her hair? Like, who let her on
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: our screen? And this one, too.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: Who.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: I also would imagine that if you are actually going
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: to your friend's dinner party and like your friend is
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: staying with you, you would kind of have to get
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: approval from producers to be like, hey, do you mind
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: if my sister comes to this dinner? And they might
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: be like, we kind of prefer that she not. Would
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: it be okay if we just let you leave like
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: two hours in? I don't know how they work it out,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: but I'm assuming it. But this girl, you know, she
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: showed up at one of the parties. And she had, like,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: a completely sheer outfit on, I think, to get, like,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: a reading or something.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: And they're like, I love it. And she's like, ah.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: And you could tell she was really trying to get
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: her story out. Like, I'm divorced. I like to fuck 25-year-olds.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: And everyone's like, yay.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: It was so random. It was so weird. But, like,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: cut around her. I don't need her on the after show.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: I don't even watch the after show and I don't
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: want her on the after show. Like, I don't even
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: want to see her on my social media. Like, I don't.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: have any more energy to invest in any more housewives.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't know.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, if there's something maybe I would think they
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have her on the after show if she doesn't
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: start to grow. I'm I we both probably both heard
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: that Amanda then stops filming towards the end.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: She said that's not true.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's not true.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: She's denied it. She came out and she said that's
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: not true. She's at the reunion.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: OK, well, I just was thinking maybe that was and
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: then maybe that's why then this girl shows shows up
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: at other things.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: What's your opinion of the season?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: It's not terrible. I actually, no, I'm enjoying, I like Dorit.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: I think she's bringing a lot. I mean, it's a
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: bit much, but she's bringing a lot. And I like
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Rachel Zoe. I think she's really refreshing and vulnerable. Erica
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: seems to be bringing it in the second half of
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: the season. I mean, Sutton is like almost non-existent this season,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: but I don't mind that. I think she's taken like
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of heat the last couple of seasons that,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: you know, you can kind of have a, A more
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: tame season.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Right. And I think it's obvious like where they're like,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: you know, oh, you know, Sutton not having vodka is,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: you know, a different type of person.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: And again, you get these women that probably have always
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: enjoyed drinking.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Now you have a double combo of A, your kids
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: are older.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: So you actually can drink like every night if you want.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And you're at social events where there's drinks. And
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: now you're on TV, which is awkward.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: So you drink.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: So I do think she's had moments where she's probably
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: regretted going for that, you know, fourth grade.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: I'm sure.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: But.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the season is not terrible. I really
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: like Rachel Zoe. I mean, the only ones I'm really
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: that interested in are Rachel, Erica, Dorit and Kyle.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Because those are the only ones I have any sort
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: of emotional attachment to. I like Rachel Zoe. Amanda's annoying.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: I kept trying to give her a shot, and she's
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: so annoying. Boze, I feel like I'm kind of getting
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: bored with her. I liked her at first, and I
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: liked her at the start of the season, and now
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: I just kind of feel like she's not giving us much. Um,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: like Rachel came in giving us a lot in her
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: first season.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't we know by now, like, okay, so
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: what the journey is, I guess, is she going to
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: have more kids?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: She wants to.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: So then it's either a surrogate or whatever, which I think,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I, I, Hey, I said in the beginning,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't really believe it. Obviously it's true that she
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: really wanted to have more kids with this guy and
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: I do think it's weird that someone that is a
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: marketing quote unquote self-proclaimed genius would think that this is
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: a great marketing plan to have a child. Fine if
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: you want to have another child, but why involve this guy?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: If you want to have one more chance at motherhood,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: by all means do it, but do it alone. And then,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: and then if he's around, then great. Then you spend
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: the rest of your life with him. But why would
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: you involve when you make, the money and everything. Why
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: would you get in a, do you, I remember there
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: was a Dave Chappelle sketch that was so funny when
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: he had a show where he, the, the point of
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: the sketch was he got Oprah pregnant. So he was like,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: I like playing like an average dude. And he was like,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: I'm set for life. I'm going to get all this,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: Get all this, uh, child support and this kind of thing.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Like if you, why, if you're so determined to go
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: through all the process of, you know, egg-doning and IVF.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: And all that stuff, then why wouldn't you get married
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: to him?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Because it's a bigger commitment to have the kid together
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: than it is to get married.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because once you have the kid, like, you're stuck
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: with this person forever. A marriage you can at least
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: divorce and be done with. Yeah.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, and I feel like people don't want
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: to ask her about that. And, like, that's what I
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: would be asking if I was there. I'd be like,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: let me ask you something.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: You've had all these positions.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: You've worked in all these different businesses. You've raised this
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: daughter that's clearly, you know, a delight and a great kid.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: You date this guy for under a year, and then
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: you're like, and if I can't give him a kid, well,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: it might not last.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: Do you even want this kid? Like, it's just, I
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: think it is weird.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: At like 48, when your daughter's almost going off to college,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's, and this isn't your husband. And you,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: maybe if you never had a kid, I think it's strange.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to say it. I still like her.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: I still think she's an asset to the show. But
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: when they say you got to ask the tough questions
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: and be involved, I do think people are scared to ask.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: I think, I think they get on the phone and
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: they're like, I cannot believe that she's doing this.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Because, I mean, again, I did not even clock that
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: until you brought it up. But it's right. It is
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: really strange. Like, why not just marry him? And also, like,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: why do you want to have a kid now? Like,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: your daughter's grown. Like, why are you going to start
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: over now with this guy while you're on a reality show?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, if you're giving such great advice and
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: you've lived, anybody would say.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Hey, Bose, I get it. You want more chance at motherhood,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: and if your body can carry the baby.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't feel like she wants it more than
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: she wants it for him. He wants it, and she's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: doing it for him is the.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: Impression I have.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, one thing if she was like, we've been
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: together for eight years. We've been trying for eight years.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Now we're going to go for a surrogate.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's one thing. Literally, from what I recall, it's
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: like they met like a year and a half ago.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: It's a new relationship. Newer.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's weird.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: I think maybe she just kind of was like, this
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: is what I think is going to happen. Don't think
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: she's going to have any more kids. You think it's
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: a storyline. You think it's a Melissa Gorga, let me
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: find my lost sister. I don't think it's a storyline
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: necessarily for the show. But I think it's something that
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: she was like, you know what?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: I would like to have another kid. And this is
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: something I could explore. And it's interesting.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: And I think she's sad when it didn't work out.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: But I think when more time passes, she'll be like,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: you know what? It didn't work out.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: For me.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: And it's not meant to be. And then I think
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: next season. We will not be talking about trying to
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: get pregnant again. That's my opinion.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Probably. I can see that.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: But I do enjoy her takes on the stuff. But
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: if she's going to keep it real. This is not
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: a great life plan. No.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: And we need to get rid of this photo shoot.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: It's so ugly. Oh my god.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: I totally feel the opposite.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: It looks so tacky.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I think they all look gorgeous in these satin gowns.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: And this like. 1940s look. I actually think it's gorgeous.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: I hate it. The only one I like is Rachel
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: Zoe in this.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, she looks so good.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: When she showed up on America's Got Next Top Model
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: before Botox was invented.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. That was rough.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's so crazy when you see someone like
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: 23 years ago that had like Wrinkles in their forehead
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and they were, like, 36.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: And now they're, like, 58 and have a completely smooth,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: more beautiful full face.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: Look at Kyle's face. She's in her 50s. I mean,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: or Erica.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: They're all in their 50s. They're all in their 50s,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: and they all look great.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Erica looks great, yeah.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: Thank God for plastic surgery. It's, like, really amazing.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: That's your Brandy Glanvin. Your implant's exploding.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: Well, she did, yeah.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: See, it wasn't a parasite in Morocco.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: No, it wasn't.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: She's like, I did have a parasite, but I also
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: had them leak and go up to my lymph nodes
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: and meet the parasite.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: But I'm glad she got figured it out and I'm
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: glad she got some new boobs.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: It took her like four years.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: This was kind of sad, but funny.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Blake Lively was at a fashion show and the girl
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: right here is the Grey's Anatomy girl.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Meredith.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: And it just, the way this was shot just looked
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: so bad. It looked bad, but also still sad. There's
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: nothing still sad about a girl that's just like there
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: by herself. And she's like, hi. And the Grey's Anatomy,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: what is her name?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Meredith.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: No, real Grey's Anatomy.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know her real name.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: That actress, she's there with her husband who she's had forever.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: and somebody else. So she's like talking to them, talking
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: to them. And then it's like this weird thing where like,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: she sees her.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: And Blake's like smiling. Like, can we engage in a conversation?
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: And she's like, and who ever got that?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, now I.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Know that you have a PhD in Blake versus Justin.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: Give us the, the cliff note of where we are at.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: We are waiting for the trial, which is going to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: be May.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: May 18th is when trial kicks off. They just had
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: settlement negotiations and shocker, they didn't settle. I didn't think
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: that they would. I'd heard the terms that they were
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: each asking. Well, they were like astronomical numbers. So who
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: was asking for what? They were each asking for money
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: and then The one that stuck out to me was
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: I think she was asking for, like, them to go to, like,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: years of, like, HR training or, like, sexual harassment training.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: Lake was saying, I want us both? So what I
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: think happened.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: Wait, she wanted Justin to go to years?
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: Him and his team as part of their settlement is
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: we'll pay you this money and we'll agree to go
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: to all of these regular, you know, HR meetings.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: So she was offering to pay some?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: Yes. But I think like the HR, I feel like
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: it was like years, like six years of like, you
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: have to go to HR training for like the next
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: six years. And so I feel like they both made
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: their asks so unrealistic that neither would be willing to
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  Speaker 2: buckle and fold regardless of the money. Um, the money
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  Speaker 2: didn't even seem that astronomical in terms of what they
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: were asking for.
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  Speaker 3: But, um, what were they asking for? You can't say, um, I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Tell you off.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: All right. Off mic. But yeah, I just, to me,
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  Speaker 2: it kind of felt like they were both coming in
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  Speaker 2: and they were not planning on settling. Like it was
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  Speaker 2: a formality. They had to do it. They had to
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  Speaker 2: like show the judge, like, look, we're trying to, we
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: can't reach a settlement. We have to go to trial now.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: Like they have to do the make nice ahead of time.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: But it just, I didn't get the impression that either
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: of them were willing to settle before the meeting. And
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: then shocker, they left and they didn't reach any settlements.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: And then it was reported that she was playing Mahjong
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: while she was in the... It was six hours of
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: settlement negotiations. Have you ever played Mahjong? No. I have.
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  Speaker 2: Is it boring?
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  Speaker 3: No, it's just.
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  Speaker 1: I can see why people get into it, but it's
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: a lot... Okay, there's two... Like, I went to Bunko. Now,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Bunko's super easy. Bunko is just rolling dice.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Both involve drinking with ladies, so I like that. But
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: the Mahjong is like.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: You have this piece of paper with all these like
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Chinese symbols and they all, and there's like 12 different
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: patterns where it's like three flowers, two things.
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  Speaker 3: And so you go around and there's a lot of rules.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: And I'm, I would think you'd have to play probably
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: like 10 times to like kind of really get it.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: I've only half played one and a half time. And
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: then you line up your tiles. Okay.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: But I get why women like it. Cause it's cute.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: And it's like matching.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: And you can still talk, but yeah, I mean, it's
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: becoming a big thing like not just a map just
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: it used to be just like old jewish ladies do
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: it and now it's like everybody's doing it like lively
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: doing it at the courthouse so she brought a whole
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: case of it like a case it's like.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: A no she i guess had in the car and
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: she had her her chauffeur bring in, it was a
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: $ 500 Mahjong set.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, people can really go off and cute and, you know.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: It's all about it. Zach, you have so much going
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: on and people love you. So if they are not
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: already following you, can you just tell them where to go?
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach Peter all over the internet. The podcast is
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: No Filts with Zach Peter, streams five days a week.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: All your favorite podcast platforms, you can watch it on, sorry,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: you can watch it on YouTube. and Spotify, where you
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: can listen to it. And then, I mean, last summer,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: we had all of Blake Lively's subpoena drama that was unfolding.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: And it was while I was on tour, and we
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: were filming the behind the scenes of the tour. And
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: so right now we're airing, it's called the tour tapes,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: six episodes behind the scenes of this activated tour. But
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: it also captures all of the subpoena drama because everybody
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: that was coming into my different shows ended up getting
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: subpoenaed along the way. So everybody was getting their, it
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: was the whole subpoena gate drama that unfolds.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: And they can watch that on your YouTube.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: That's on YouTube and on Spotify.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: Awesome. And thank you. And for me, remember you guys,
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  Speaker 3: please come see me.
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  Speaker 1: Just a few weeks away, March 20th and 21st, At
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  Speaker 3: Come and see me. Go get those tickets. And of course,
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  Speaker 4: Love you. Bye.
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