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The Rita Panahi Show | 6 February · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scoring lives Ostrodia.
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Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show.
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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the reader. Patty Show.
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Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, we have a massive program for you.
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Speaker 4: We've saved the best for Lass would be great. Douglas
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Speaker 4: Murray joining me shortly. Nick Kata will bring us the
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Speaker 4: latest local international headlines, including Adam Bann's latest Trump induced meltdown.
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Speaker 4: Also joining me tonight, Kinsey Schofield and a new face
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Speaker 4: Jonathan Sacerdoti and left He's Losing It features more than
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Speaker 4: a one hysterical Democrat shut.
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Speaker 5: Down the set were we will, when we.
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Speaker 4: Will, When we will rest. Let's bring in Mensis Research
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Speaker 4: Center Senior fellow, Nick Kata. Nick, We'll start with Treasurer
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Speaker 4: Jim Chalmers. He's been talking to the big end of
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Speaker 4: his whole business leaders at a closed door meeting with
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Speaker 4: the Business Council of Australia in Canberra that he wants
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Speaker 4: to make it easier to invest, easier to hire, easier
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Speaker 4: to trade and easier to do business in Australia.
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Speaker 3: He said he's going to do this by cutting red tape.
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Speaker 3: This follows a number of.
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Speaker 4: Industry groups expressing serious concerns about labour's economic credentials, particularly
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Speaker 4: labour's crippling net zero obsessions. Can modern labor go from
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Speaker 4: a high taxing, high regulation party into one that is
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Speaker 4: pro business.
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Speaker 6: There's plenty of red tape to cut, of course, reader,
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Speaker 6: much of which Jim Charmers has been responsible for putting
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Speaker 6: in place in his colleagues. So look, I applaud the instinct,
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Speaker 6: and I also applaud the fact that they're going to
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Speaker 6: look at using AI artificial intelligence more because this is
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Speaker 6: a government that certainly lacks intelligence a lot of the time.
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Speaker 6: And I did have this idea, perhaps they could even
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Speaker 6: plug the Prime Minister into some AI machine that he
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Speaker 6: might actually say something that is vaguely useful, you know,
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Speaker 6: he might actually answer questions, significant questions with the help
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Speaker 6: of chat, GPT or something plugged into him. So look,
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Speaker 6: I mean it's the same old, same ol, isn't it.
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Speaker 6: You know, don't forget what we've done for the last
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Speaker 6: three years. Just listen to what we're promising to do
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Speaker 6: for the next I think Australians learned their lesson about
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Speaker 6: that in twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 4: Well you're so right, because not only have we seen
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Speaker 4: an increase in red tape. We've seen now an increase
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Speaker 4: in green tape black tape. This is not a pro
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Speaker 4: business government in any sense of the words. So we
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Speaker 4: would have to see a fairly dramatic turnaround from their
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Speaker 4: first term in government.
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Speaker 3: Let's see now from Green's leader Adam.
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Speaker 4: Band who had another Trump induced tantrum over President's plans
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Speaker 4: to rebuild Gaza is wrong.
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Speaker 7: This is the end of international law. This is Donald
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Speaker 7: Trump talking about the takeover of another country, potentially by
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Speaker 7: force australianment. The Australian government must make it clear that
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Speaker 7: it opposes this move that is in clear violation of
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Speaker 7: international law.
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Speaker 3: The end of international law.
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Speaker 4: No hyperbole there, and he wants the Albanza government to
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Speaker 4: step in.
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Speaker 3: Nick, what is Adam banter suggesting.
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Speaker 6: That well, international law he claims to the breach, but
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Speaker 6: surely reata you put a suggestion in your head. I
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Speaker 6: think it's time to make left. He's losing it a
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Speaker 6: twenty four to seven segment because under Donald Trump he
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Speaker 6: is generating so much of it, but not only in
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Speaker 6: America but on this side of the Pacific too, that
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Speaker 6: surely you must be full of ideas for content with
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Speaker 6: stuff like Adam bamppor Daily and his colleagues.
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Speaker 4: You could just do a whole segment devoted to the
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Speaker 4: Greens here in Australia if you really wanted to. Every
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Speaker 4: single day they are providing content of left is losing it,
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Speaker 4: But Adam Band does have some support from far left
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Speaker 4: idea logues like the thoroughly ridiculous Francesca Albanesi, who was
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Speaker 4: given a platform to spew her anti Trump, anti Israel
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Speaker 4: nonsense on where else but the ABC here she is
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Speaker 4: on Radio National this morning.
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Speaker 8: This is nonsense and at the same time it cannot
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Speaker 8: be ignored because it's absolutely afterly I'm lawful. This is
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Speaker 8: what indigenous people do. They stick to the land because
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Speaker 8: the land is not where they live. The land is
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Speaker 8: who they are and this is why the Palestinians are
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Speaker 8: not going anywhere.
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Speaker 1: Nick.
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Speaker 4: I do wonder if she's confused about her the actual
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Speaker 4: indigenous population of that region is. And I've got to
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Speaker 4: wonder why the ABAC give airtime to this woman who's accusing.
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Speaker 3: Australia and Israel of genocide.
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Speaker 8: Would you say the same thing of the aboriginal genocide
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Speaker 8: in Australia. So excuse me, I mean there is increased
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Speaker 8: there is there has never been such a consensus of
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Speaker 8: human rights organization in genocide scholars and others that this
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Speaker 8: is genocide. However, keep on telling what you think, but
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Speaker 8: this is a genocide.
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Speaker 3: Nick, what are the ABAC thinking?
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Speaker 6: Well, certainly the ABC company line, isn't it. And you know,
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Speaker 6: I was beginning to think back she was actually an
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Speaker 6: actual host. She's in there so often, and I take
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Speaker 6: it to Francesca Albanesi. No relation, surely, but I think
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Speaker 6: she's echoing anti in extreme views about abage and sovereignty
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Speaker 6: or shall I say first nation sovereignty, Sorry that she's
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Speaker 6: just echoing really what Albanezi has said. And if you remember,
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Speaker 6: I mean she intruded in a quite inappropriate way as
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Speaker 6: a UN representative during the voice debate, in a domestic
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Speaker 6: political debate, and I think she's you know, of course,
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Speaker 6: it would be nice to ask for her to be
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Speaker 6: recalled and taken back home, but I think she's probably
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Speaker 6: not even extreme enough for some people at the UN.
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Speaker 4: Now, US President Donald Trump has signed a hugely significant
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Speaker 4: executive order today banning biological men from competing in women's sport.
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Speaker 9: Female athletes have been forced onto the front lines and
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Speaker 9: men claiming to be girls have stolen more than three thousand,
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Speaker 9: five hundred victories, that's a lot, and invaded more than
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Speaker 9: eleven thousand competitions designed for women.
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Speaker 4: Nick, this is a momentous stay for girls for women,
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Speaker 4: and any feminist who actually cares about women's rights should
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Speaker 4: be celebrating.
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Speaker 6: This move absolutely. And I was in Washington for the inauguration,
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Speaker 6: as you know, and because I couldn't get into the
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Speaker 6: official events that you were at, I was watching it
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Speaker 6: in the sports bar. And the biggest cheer of the
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Speaker 6: day during the inauguration speech was when he announced the
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Speaker 6: two gender policy. People were so excited about that one
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Speaker 6: woman had tears in her eyes. So this is an
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Speaker 6: issue which, although you know, doesn't get talked about hardly
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Speaker 6: at all in the mainstream media in any frank way,
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Speaker 6: but ordinary people, most Americans and most Australians believe this
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Speaker 6: is such absolute common sense that really, I mean, why
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Speaker 6: should the president even have to say it? But unfortunately
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Speaker 6: he does because our sense of up and reality has
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Speaker 6: been so distorted in the last fifteen years, which.
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Speaker 4: Begs the question, while we're not seeing the coalition, while
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Speaker 4: we're not seeing Peter.
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Speaker 3: Darton lean into this issue.
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Speaker 4: There was a piece on the ABC saying that he's
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Speaker 4: been encouraged to do that, even the National Party wants
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Speaker 4: him to do that, and he's declining. And I can't
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Speaker 4: see the rationale here because this is an issue where
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Speaker 4: eighty percent plus are on the same page, and we're
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Speaker 4: talking about labor voters. Certainly conservative voters are sick of
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Speaker 4: the excesses of the trans movement, off sick of all
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Speaker 4: this gender nonsense. So why do we have both the
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Speaker 4: Coalition and labor to frighten to tackle this issue.
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Speaker 6: I think it has been made. It's been turned into
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Speaker 6: such a hot political and nasty political issue by the
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Speaker 6: trans lobby that I think that there is some reluctance
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Speaker 6: in the Liberal Party amongst senior advisors to go there
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Speaker 6: if they don't have to. But I would say to
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Speaker 6: Peter Dunnan, and I know he's a great fan of
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Speaker 6: the show, so he'll no doubt be watching, Please have
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Speaker 6: every confidence in doing this because you're going to you
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Speaker 6: know you, of course you're going to get torn to
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Speaker 6: shreds in the City Morning Herald and on the ABS
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Speaker 6: and the Guardian and all these other places, but in
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Speaker 6: the everywhere else in Australia. In the places where people
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Speaker 6: will actually vote for you, they will be applauding.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, don't be scared to pick a fight with the media.
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Speaker 4: I think that's a lesson that our politicians can learn
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Speaker 4: from the US, Canada, Argentina, increasing number of countries around
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Speaker 4: the world where the politicians are just boldly challenging that
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Speaker 4: media narrative and not worried about the backlash.
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Speaker 3: Before you go.
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Speaker 4: New South Wales Housing Minister Rose Jackson has been caught
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Speaker 4: up in the taxpayer funded chauffeur cas scandal.
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Speaker 3: Here's what she had to say earlier today.
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Speaker 7: I didn't even know I was going away, certainly didn't
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Speaker 7: know any of the details, had nothing to do with
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Speaker 7: planning the logistics, had nothing to do with any of
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Speaker 7: the bookings, had no knowledge of any of those arrangements.
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Speaker 4: Just seems to know nothing about anything there you go.
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Speaker 4: Might remember this minister from a couple of months ago
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Speaker 4: when she seemed to think that to rent a two
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Speaker 4: bedroom apartment in Sydney would only cost a couple of.
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Speaker 3: Hundred dollars a week.
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Speaker 4: She doesn't seem to be familiar with her own portfolio
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Speaker 4: or her own arrangements.
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Speaker 3: Should she step down, Nick.
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Speaker 6: I think she should definitely step down, but I think
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Speaker 6: more than that, I think they should look at disendorsing
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Speaker 6: her because you know, Labour is supposed to be the
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Speaker 6: party of the people, right, the workers, the ordinary people.
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Speaker 6: She's clearly not one of those. You know, she grew
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Speaker 6: up in a I guess a privileged home as the
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Speaker 6: daughter of an ABC presenter, so you know, I mean,
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Speaker 6: good honor. She's a nice lady and all that, but
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Speaker 6: she's completely an absolutely out of touch, not just with
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Speaker 6: the pub in the pub test, but any sort of
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Speaker 6: common sense test at all. And she's really going to
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Speaker 6: continue to do Labor more harm than good in a
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Speaker 6: frontline role like that, Nick Kate.
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Speaker 3: I thank you for your time today.
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Speaker 4: Thank you Joining me now as he does every week,
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Speaker 4: is best selling author Douglas Murray Douglas.
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Speaker 3: It's hard to know where to start.
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Speaker 4: So much has happened this week with President Oald Trump's
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Speaker 4: executive orders, including pulling the US out of the UN
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Speaker 4: Human Rights Council, cutting funding for ANWAH, and now this
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Speaker 4: groundbreaking plan to rebuild Gaza.
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Speaker 3: What do you make of it all?
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Speaker 4: And is this serious about the US taking over Gaza
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Speaker 4: or is it a negotiation strategy.
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Speaker 10: Well, first of all, I mean all of these presidential
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Speaker 10: orders and directives are I think fantastic. Pulling the US
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Speaker 10: out of the so called UN Human Rights Council is
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Speaker 10: a bare minimum thing. Anyone who's spent any time looking
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Speaker 10: at or sitting through the Alice in Wonderland procedures at
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Speaker 10: the UN Human Rights Council will realize that no self
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Speaker 10: respecting liberal democracy should have anything to.
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Speaker 1: Do with it.
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Speaker 10: Sort of place where North Korea denounces Australia for it
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Speaker 10: treatment of women and the Iranian regime talks about the
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Speaker 10: importance of not nuclear non proliferation and all that sort
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Speaker 10: of thing. There's absolutely it's an absolute fantasy land, and
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Speaker 10: it's always been a farce, and I don't really see
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Speaker 10: why America or any other self respecting democracy should have anything.
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Speaker 1: Much to do with it.
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Speaker 10: As for the Gaza announcements this week, they certainly break
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Speaker 10: the paradigm, don't they. RITA.
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Speaker 1: The current thinking on Gaza, as far as there was any,
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Speaker 1: was that having started another war.
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Speaker 10: Against Israel in October twenty twenty three, just the latest
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Speaker 10: of many wars that Hamasaran Gaza started against Israel since
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Speaker 10: Israel withdrew from Gaza in five. The main thinking was, well,
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Speaker 10: after they've lost again, everyone should just pay more billions
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Speaker 10: to really build Gaza and hand it back to the
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Speaker 10: Palestinians of Gaza so that they can start another war
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Speaker 10: in a few years time, when they've rearmed and made
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Speaker 10: their leadership a bit much richer. And I didn't think
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Speaker 10: that was a viable idea. I don't actually think very
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Speaker 10: many international players thought it was a very viable idea,
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Speaker 10: but it was.
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Speaker 1: Sort of the only idea that anyone had on the table.
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Speaker 10: Trump has said what is completely true, which is Gaza
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Speaker 10: isn't especially livable these days. You'll remember, viewers will remember
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Speaker 10: that all of our taxpayer dollars and pounds and euros
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Speaker 10: that were sent to Hamas run Gaza were mainly used
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Speaker 10: to buy luxury apartments for the Hamas leadership in Katar,
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Speaker 10: and also, of course, very importantly to build the huge
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Speaker 10: underground tunnel network in which the Hamaz.
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Speaker 1: Authorities could protect their.
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Speaker 10: Rockets and make sure that they were safe as possible,
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Speaker 10: and of course also then hold young Jewish babies and
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Speaker 10: others captive. All of this was they ruined the Gaza.
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Speaker 10: And you know my view Rita. There is a price
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Speaker 10: to be paid. There always has been historically for starting
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Speaker 10: wars again and again against your neighbors and then losing them.
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Speaker 10: And as lost this war, it's in the final processes
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Speaker 10: of losing it. And I think it's perfectly appropriate they
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Speaker 10: should lose land. That's what always happens in war, and
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Speaker 10: that's why you shouldn't start a war. And it's almost
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Speaker 10: as if there's a lesson there isn't there.
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Speaker 4: Indeed, it's also becoming increasingly clear that the Saudi Israel
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Speaker 4: peace steel is going to move ahead and it's not
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Speaker 4: going to be conditional on Palestinian statehood. That was a
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Speaker 4: conventional wisdom for many years that any Arab Israeli normalization
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Speaker 4: was conditional on Palestinian state who Trump turned that on
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Speaker 4: its head during his first term.
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Speaker 3: There seems to be continuing with that.
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Speaker 4: And as for the plans to relocate the Ghazans, Donald
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Speaker 4: Trump has floated the idea of Egypt or Jordan taking
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Speaker 4: in people from Gaza.
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Speaker 3: But you have another idea, Douglas.
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Speaker 4: You wrote in the New York Post that perhaps countries
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Speaker 4: like Ireland and Canada and Pakistan and those who seem
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Speaker 4: to say they care so much about the Palestinians, maybe
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Speaker 4: they should step forward.
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Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I mean it's perfectly obvious that Jordan and
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Speaker 10: Egypt should take in large numbers of the population from Gaza,
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Speaker 10: partly because, I mean, in Egypt's case, it has a
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Speaker 10: historic responsibility over Gaza, historic responsibility that it has ignored
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Speaker 10: in recent decades. But they used to own and run
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Speaker 10: the Gaza, and they should be really good at looking
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Speaker 10: after much of the population of the donated strip. As
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Speaker 10: for Jordan, it's pretty much Palestinian state anyway, and Queen
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Speaker 10: Rania has been very vocal about how much she cares
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Speaker 10: about the Palestinians. In the last fifteen months, didn't seem
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Speaker 10: to care so much about the war that they started
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Speaker 10: against Israel. But I think Queen Rania now has a
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Speaker 10: fantastic opportunity. She has many, many palaces, Queen Rania of Jordan,
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Speaker 10: and this is a great opportunity to relocate those nighted
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Speaker 10: Gazans to some of her palaces. As for Ireland, Pakistan,
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Speaker 10: Canada and other countries, yes, you know, if they care
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Speaker 10: so much about the Palestinian people who keep on starting
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Speaker 10: wars that they lose, then I think it's a great
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Speaker 10: opportunity to take some of these people in in very
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Speaker 10: large numbers. And I'm sure that the as I said
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Speaker 10: in the New York Posts, I'm sure that the Palestinians
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Speaker 10: from Gaza will help their countries that receive them to
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Speaker 10: boom in their own special and indeed traditional way.
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Speaker 4: I just wish you wouldn't give this sort of advice,
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Speaker 4: because our government here in Australia is silly enough.
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Speaker 3: To actually take it.
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Speaker 4: We are one of the very few places, perhaps the
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Speaker 4: only place in the world that's taken thousands in from
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Speaker 4: an area where you would have to suggest that cannot
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Speaker 4: be vetted properly. You don't know if these people are
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Speaker 4: sympathetic to her Maas or not.
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Speaker 3: Now let's talk about the UK.
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Speaker 4: Where we are seeing some extraordinary polling numbers showing that
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Speaker 4: Nigel Farage's Reform is ahead now of the Tories in
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Speaker 4: every major national poll, and Reform is also a head
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Speaker 4: of Labor in the latest Ugov pole. Will Nigel Farage
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Speaker 4: be the UK's Donald Trump? You could argue he's already
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Speaker 4: achieved that with his role in Brexit, But can you
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Speaker 4: see him as a future prime minister?
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Speaker 1: We'll see. I mean, it's a fascinating situation.
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Speaker 10: Reform is a really very new political party and it
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Speaker 10: has already overtaken in the polls the most successful and
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Speaker 10: oldest political party in the UK, the Conservative Party.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's an extraordinary set of events. I think
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Speaker 1: there's a demonstration here of a number of things. The
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Speaker 1: first is the inect manner in which the Labor Party
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Speaker 1: is trying to govern the UK. They've done absolutely nothing
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Speaker 1: to improve living standards or indeed Britain's reputation domestically or
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Speaker 1: abroad since coming into our office. It's inevitable that a
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Speaker 1: lot of people notice that and would like protest vote.
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Speaker 1: The interesting thing for Nigel Paraij and Reform is whether
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Speaker 1: they can be more than a protest vote, and that
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Speaker 1: will depend to a great extent on who Faraij surrounds
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Speaker 1: himself with as the party grows. It's a very important
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Speaker 1: but perilous moment in politics when a party grows very
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Speaker 1: fast like this, because inevitably what needs to happen is
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Speaker 1: there needs to be a big support structure around that party.
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Speaker 1: But yes, there's of course four years more than four
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Speaker 1: years to go until an election has to be called.
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Speaker 10: In the UK.
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Speaker 1: But it's exciting.
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Speaker 10: I mean, yes, as you say, there's a sort of
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Speaker 10: insurgency feel similar to that that led to the election
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Speaker 10: of Donald Trump. And I think people will be looking
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Speaker 10: for anyone who can show how they can be better governed,
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Speaker 10: because it's hard to see how they could be worse governed.
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Speaker 4: You wrote about the labor boasting about Britain's soft power.
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Speaker 4: Why are they doing that? What is there to be
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Speaker 4: achieved by boasting about soft power?
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Speaker 3: Surely, if you have it, you don't need to be
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Speaker 3: bragging about it.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's one of things I pointed out.
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Speaker 10: If you go around saying look at my soft power,
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Speaker 10: here me raw, it's a slightly embarrassing situation to be in.
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Speaker 10: David Lammy, the great genius who is the British Foreign Secretary,
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Speaker 10: has set up a soft power committee. I mean, as
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Speaker 10: you know, Rita, there's there's no major issue that can't
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Speaker 10: be improved by setting up a committee of third rate
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Speaker 10: tango crats. And they're apparently looking into the importance of
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Speaker 10: British soft power, which they think is underutilized. I think
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Speaker 10: the countries, broadly speaking, talk about soft power when they
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Speaker 10: were when their hard power has effectively wilted and not only,
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Speaker 10: as I pointed out, has Britain's hard power wilted, It's
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Speaker 10: soft power has wilted as well, because much of the
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Speaker 10: money and foreign aid and much more that the British
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Speaker 10: taxpayer dolls around the globe doesn't actually go to sort
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Speaker 10: of soft power initiatives, and it doesn't go to you know,
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Speaker 10: productions of Shakespeare plays in Swaziland. It goes to funding
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Speaker 10: bananas sort of gender woo woo stuff in South America,
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Speaker 10: or you know, looking into the prevalence of racism in
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Speaker 10: the Brazil.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not kidding.
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Speaker 10: Those are the sort of things that British foreign aid
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Speaker 10: has gone to pay for in recent years. So yes,
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Speaker 10: I don't think there's much that can be gained by
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Speaker 10: David Lammy's initiative, if you can call it that. But
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Speaker 10: I also think that it's very interesting to watch when countries,
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Speaker 10: and this is another thing that Trump administration has been
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Speaker 10: looking into with USAID, when countries end up splurging money
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Speaker 10: around the globe and the money they're splurging actually is
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Speaker 10: on projects which to a significant extent, are against the
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Speaker 10: people who are funding the projects. You know, you're in trouble,
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Speaker 10: and that's to a great extent where British foreign aid
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Speaker 10: funding goes, sometimes it goes to countries with regions that
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Speaker 10: are richer than regions of the United Kingdom, and I
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Speaker 10: think that's ridiculous. So I wish that David Lamoney would
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Speaker 10: apply his hard thinking to somewhat harder question.
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Speaker 3: Douglas.
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Speaker 4: One of the underreported reasons for Donald Trump's big win
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Speaker 4: was his vow to clean up institutions like the FBI
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Speaker 4: to tackle the lawfare, the two tier justice system we've
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Speaker 4: spoken about so often on this program, and we've got
22:23
Speaker 4: a further insight into just how deep rooted these issues
22:28
Speaker 4: are with the revelations this week that the FBI had
22:31
Speaker 4: assigned more than five thousand employees to January sixth investigations.
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Speaker 4: They're only around thirteen thousand FBI agents thirty eight thousand
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Speaker 4: FBI employees in total, Douglas. This goes further than the FBI.
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Speaker 4: It's evident that Trump two point zero bears only a
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Speaker 4: passing resemblance to Trump one point oh. He is going
22:57
Speaker 4: scorched earth in cleaning up the bureaucras and it's sane really,
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Speaker 4: as a critical move to achieve every other objective.
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Speaker 1: I think that's right.
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Speaker 10: I think that it's been striking in the opening days
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Speaker 10: and now weeks of Trump two point zero that there
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Speaker 10: is a sort of seriousness of intent and also of
23:18
Speaker 10: carrying out that intent.
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Speaker 1: You're right, Reata.
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Speaker 10: I mean, there are institutions after institution in the US,
23:26
Speaker 10: as in all of our countries that have become bloated, politicized,
23:30
Speaker 10: and much more. And it seems clear that Trump this
23:35
Speaker 10: time around is really not only intent on changing that,
23:38
Speaker 10: but seems to know how to do so. But revelations
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Speaker 10: like this about the FBI, I mean, really should surprise
23:45
Speaker 10: no one. One of the reasons why Trump spoke in
23:49
Speaker 10: recent years to such an enormous number of the American
23:54
Speaker 10: people was they saw the way in which institutions had
23:58
Speaker 10: become politicized. I mean, you know, many of us don't
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Speaker 10: want them to be politicized from any angle. But if
24:05
Speaker 10: a sort of Republican administration set thousands of FBI agents
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Speaker 10: against their political opponents, it would be as objectionable as
24:15
Speaker 10: the Democrats doing that to Republicans. And you know, we
24:20
Speaker 10: know the number of people who were you know, thrown
24:23
Speaker 10: into jail for standing in Washington on January sixth, and
24:28
Speaker 10: were not the people who did anything of the breaking
24:32
Speaker 10: in and so on. And this was, of course, you know,
24:35
Speaker 10: an example of the Democrats seizing a gift that they
24:39
Speaker 10: felt was given to them, seizing that gift and just
24:43
Speaker 10: running with it and politicizing it. And you know, if
24:46
Speaker 10: that can stop, and agencies, federal agencies can actually get
24:51
Speaker 10: down to doing their jobs, then anything could change. And
24:55
Speaker 10: the best thing about it is that if Donald Trump
24:57
Speaker 10: shows that is possible in a mar America, maybe even
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Speaker 10: the Albanese government, the Starmer government and others, or whoever
25:05
Speaker 10: replaces them, might realize that it's possible in our countries too.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, that permanent bureaucracy, unelected bureaucracy, cannot be unaccountable. And
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Speaker 4: I think finally in the US we are seeing a
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Speaker 4: small reckoning happening in that area. Douglas Murray, thank you
25:24
Speaker 4: so much for your time this evening.
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Speaker 10: Great to see you.
25:27
Speaker 3: What's ever Rita still to come?
25:30
Speaker 4: A lefty is losing it plus a Jewish intellectual abused
25:34
Speaker 4: at a university debating event, Jonathan Sasha Dotty joins me next,
25:49
Speaker 4: welcome back. Now it's time for lefties losing it.
25:53
Speaker 3: You know, we are blessed to have.
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Speaker 4: Networks like MSNBC staffed by certifiable morons and pathology liars,
26:00
Speaker 4: because they make my job just so easy. I just
26:04
Speaker 4: have to watch a few minutes and the lefties losing it.
26:07
Speaker 4: Content flows like the Mississippian spring. Here is a joy
26:11
Speaker 4: Read being a hysterical banshee and using words she doesn't
26:16
Speaker 4: seem to understand, like Coop.
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Speaker 11: We begin tonight with a full on crisis in our
26:22
Speaker 11: democracy as federal workers are literally locked out of their
26:26
Speaker 11: offices while operatives working for a private citizen essentially take
26:30
Speaker 11: over our government. If this were happening in any other
26:32
Speaker 11: country right now, I promise you I'd be on the
26:36
Speaker 11: air calling it a coup and.
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Speaker 4: Joy Read, along with suffering from a severe case of
26:42
Speaker 4: stage four TEDS, that's Trump's arrangement syndrome. She's also an
26:47
Speaker 4: election denial and according to the left, that makes her
26:51
Speaker 4: a threat to democracy.
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Speaker 12: They're even talking about like stealing an election and taking
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Speaker 12: me rethink whether I do believe like a machines can
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Speaker 12: be hack because I've always been like, you can't hack
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Speaker 12: the election machines.
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Speaker 11: But they're like convincing me, I don't know, maybe you can.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 13: I mean to me in this world.
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Speaker 3: Anything, it's possible.
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Speaker 13: I'm still I mean, there are all these conspiracy theories
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Speaker 13: out there about Trump and whether or not they cheated.
27:17
Speaker 13: I know you say that they didn't, but I know
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Speaker 13: you kind of hacked.
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Speaker 12: I say they didn't.
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Speaker 4: I don't know about you, but I'm shaking with Fea,
27:25
Speaker 4: with this dangerous democracy denial.
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Speaker 13: Elon Musk, you know, somehow using his tech connections. Because
27:34
Speaker 13: I don't want to say genius, because we know he's not.
27:37
Speaker 13: But those relationships or whatever, because they just seem too confident.
27:41
Speaker 13: It just doesn't add up to me with all the
27:44
Speaker 13: support that she had. And I know that for you
27:48
Speaker 13: and because of what happened with Fox, and because what
27:50
Speaker 13: you do professionally with the network. You can't say it
27:53
Speaker 13: was the machines or something like that. But if you
27:56
Speaker 13: think it was the machines, but you can't say, just
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Speaker 13: don't say anything.
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Speaker 3: See, this is what I'm saying.
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Speaker 12: I'm not saying anything. All I'm saying is no, there
28:07
Speaker 12: are many ways to cheat in an election. And I
28:11
Speaker 12: don't ever put it past Republicans to cheat in elections
28:15
Speaker 12: because they've been busted too many times.
28:18
Speaker 4: Let's hear now from a couple of women who are
28:21
Speaker 4: likely to be MSNBC viewers.
28:23
Speaker 3: Why do I say that?
28:24
Speaker 4: Because they are uninformed, unhappy, and a little unhinged.
28:29
Speaker 5: I took my kids to school today and just dropped
28:31
Speaker 5: them off, and I just feel so sad, right, like
28:35
Speaker 5: we all knew this was coming. And then I think
28:37
Speaker 5: that yesterday was far worse than any of us could
28:39
Speaker 5: be anticipated. And I took the day off to just
28:42
Speaker 5: kind of protect my peace, and I plunged back it
28:44
Speaker 5: in this morning.
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Speaker 1: And it's just so bad.
28:48
Speaker 4: And here is a lady who is very forthright in
28:51
Speaker 4: her opinions, except when faced with a fairly obvious but
28:55
Speaker 4: inconvenient question.
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Speaker 1: Stop abuse of power?
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Speaker 14: Yes?
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Speaker 10: And what regard.
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Speaker 14: Well with everything that's happening in our politics.
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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty straightforward, like with Trump.
29:05
Speaker 14: Yes, it seems that money goes a long way right
29:08
Speaker 14: now with our politicians and that needs to stop.
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Speaker 1: So would you say it was an abuse of power?
29:12
Speaker 12: How they just like remove Joe Biden out the Democratic
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Speaker 12: primary and installed Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 14: You know, I don't know that I can comment on it.
29:18
Speaker 9: Now.
29:19
Speaker 3: Let's go to CNN.
29:20
Speaker 4: We're even there, overwhelmingly left leaning panel and hosts are
29:25
Speaker 4: left laughing at just how crazy the Democrats sound this week.
29:30
Speaker 3: To our Republican colleagues, if you.
29:32
Speaker 5: Do not see the light, we will bring the fire
29:36
Speaker 5: with this.
29:37
Speaker 3: We are going to be in your faith. We are
29:39
Speaker 3: going to be on your asses.
29:41
Speaker 5: We have days to stop the destruction of our democracy.
29:44
Speaker 4: We have work to do.
29:46
Speaker 10: Tell Elon Musk to take his hands off your money.
29:51
Speaker 10: We don't pledge allegiance to the creepy twenty two year
29:54
Speaker 10: olds working for Elon Musk. We pledge allegiance to the
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Speaker 10: United States of America.
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Speaker 3: Hey, God, damnagh down the seat.
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Speaker 1: We will win.
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Speaker 3: We will win, we.
30:07
Speaker 1: Will we will rest.
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Speaker 4: We won't rest.
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Speaker 15: Yes, the Democratic Democrats need a real leader. Okay, they
30:22
Speaker 15: need a real leader, which currently does not exist in
30:25
Speaker 15: the Democratic Party. Trump has said all of these things
30:28
Speaker 15: were going to happen. We saw him align with Elon Musk,
30:32
Speaker 15: which may go down is the smartest thing that any
30:34
Speaker 15: presidential candidate has ever done.
30:37
Speaker 4: That's possibly the most irritating woman you'll hear from all week,
30:41
Speaker 4: and that includes the ladies of the View and MSNBC's
30:45
Speaker 4: not Late lineup. This is the definition of educated, but
30:50
Speaker 4: dam privileged but pitiful.
30:52
Speaker 16: Ways that Middlebury fails. Its students make this sobering truth
30:55
Speaker 16: abundantly clear. This is heartbreaking. If there's anything you hear
31:00
Speaker 16: of what I'm saying, let it do this. When our
31:02
Speaker 16: hosts break, let them break open like pomegranates and bursts
31:07
Speaker 16: with seeds that can take group. We are literally graduating
31:10
Speaker 16: the same month of fascists has taken office within eleven
31:13
Speaker 16: DA's He's pulled out of the Paris Clime Agreement for
31:15
Speaker 16: the second time, denied the existence of trans people, and
31:17
Speaker 16: unleashed a flu of ice agents to arrest an average
31:19
Speaker 16: of one thousand people every single day since they began.
31:22
Speaker 3: Yes, but you just love the way she talks.
31:24
Speaker 4: It's so effect deep that Paul Simpleton is wearing both
31:27
Speaker 4: a kafa and a rainbow scarf. Mas suggests not trying
31:31
Speaker 4: that sort of thing in Gaza lest you be thrown
31:34
Speaker 4: off whatever tool structure remains. Now this privilege nincom Poop
31:38
Speaker 4: mentioned her college Middlebury.
31:40
Speaker 3: This is a colleague. That college charges.
31:43
Speaker 4: Tuition of more than sixty seven thousand dollars per annum us,
31:48
Speaker 4: and the housing and meal plan costs another nineteen thousand plus,
31:53
Speaker 4: so almost ninety thousand dollars us per annum to produce
31:58
Speaker 4: hysterical idiots.
31:59
Speaker 16: Like this, such as the airstrike on the Oshufa ambulance
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Speaker 16: and the flower massacre regardsans round to etrucks so they
32:04
Speaker 16: can make bread and his really soldier has gotten them
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Speaker 16: down and most importantly, smiling from ear to ear with
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Speaker 16: a bunch of kids at the beauty of the sun's
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Speaker 16: setting over the horizon and thirdst Placement camp. I have
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Speaker 16: immense resources at the school and I use them now.
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Speaker 4: My next guest is a British broadcaster and commentator, and
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Speaker 4: he recently took part in an Oxford Union debate arguing
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Speaker 4: against the motion this House believes Israel is an apartheid
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Speaker 4: state responsible for genocide, and it didn't take long for
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Speaker 4: the students to disgrace themselves.
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Speaker 2: I might just say that I understand there are plenty
32:53
Speaker 2: of people in this room who don't agree with us,
32:56
Speaker 2: who don't like us, but this esteem establishment is meant
33:00
Speaker 2: to be a bastion of free speech, discussion and debate,
33:04
Speaker 2: and this example is not any of those things. To
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Speaker 2: shout like that, to abuse a speaker who is being
33:11
Speaker 2: respectful and giving you their side of an argument, is
33:14
Speaker 2: not the way to achieve better knowledge or understanding of anything.
33:18
Speaker 4: That was a Jonathan such a dot tee and he
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Speaker 4: joins me, Now, Jonathan, you're an Oxford man yourself. How
33:26
Speaker 4: shocked were you by the hostility the intolerance you faced
33:30
Speaker 4: while arguing against that absurd motion that Israel is an
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Speaker 4: apartheid state and responsible for genocide.
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Speaker 14: Obviously it was a preposterous motion. It's like asking someone
33:44
Speaker 14: to debate whether they raped and abused their wife. But
33:48
Speaker 14: that aside. I was surprised by the outrageous behavior, not
33:52
Speaker 14: just of the audience there, who seemed to have been
33:54
Speaker 14: handpicked to cause trouble and to stop us from speaking,
33:57
Speaker 14: but also by the organizer, who had done everything they
34:01
Speaker 14: could to make sure that our reception was unpleasant and frosty.
34:05
Speaker 14: They refused to even carry out the traditional photograph of
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Speaker 14: all the speakers at the beginning of the debate at
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Speaker 14: the dinner they held before it. Apparently they meant to
34:14
Speaker 14: invite you to this dinner. They snubbed us, barely spoke
34:17
Speaker 14: to us, so I think it was clear it was
34:19
Speaker 14: more mean girls than bride'shead revisited when I went to
34:22
Speaker 14: Oxford to return for that debate.
34:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, it did seem to me a bit of a
34:28
Speaker 4: stitch up all around, and you said there was a
34:31
Speaker 4: fair bit of deception and dishonesty behind the planning and
34:36
Speaker 4: the run up to the debate. You were personally abused.
34:40
Speaker 4: There was some shrieking woman I heard on the tape
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Speaker 4: who called you genocidal and other words I can't repeat here.
34:47
Speaker 4: Where does this deep hatred, dis deep seated hatred for Israel,
34:52
Speaker 4: for Zionism come from? And is it just anti Semitism
34:58
Speaker 4: dressed up in a more acceptable name.
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Speaker 14: I think there were a few things that play here.
35:04
Speaker 14: One was the inability of the students in that room
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Speaker 14: to even engage in a civilized and informed debate, so
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Speaker 14: regardless of the subject, it was clear that their minds
35:13
Speaker 14: weren't open. And that's what I said to them in
35:16
Speaker 14: that clip that you played there, that even if you
35:18
Speaker 14: invite somebody to debate something that you disagree with them on,
35:21
Speaker 14: you maybe don't even like them based on their opinions,
35:25
Speaker 14: but you should listen to what they have to say.
35:27
Speaker 14: That's the whole point of being in a university. That's
35:29
Speaker 14: the point of debating as an activity. It's so that
35:33
Speaker 14: you can hear arguments on both sides and make up
35:35
Speaker 14: your mind, perhaps educate yourself or inform yourself or even disagree,
35:39
Speaker 14: but none of that was done respectfully. And I think
35:42
Speaker 14: that those students there were viciously anti Israel, in my opinion,
35:46
Speaker 14: because they were anti Semitic predominantly. They jeered when I
35:50
Speaker 14: talked about anti Semitism. When I talked about my father,
35:53
Speaker 14: my late father's experience in Italy growing up during the Holocaust.
35:57
Speaker 14: He was hidden from the Nazis Catholics by nuns who
36:02
Speaker 14: kept him in a Catholic orphanage for nine months, and
36:04
Speaker 14: that's why he survived the war. They rolled their eyes
36:08
Speaker 14: when I told that story, and generally they were utterly
36:11
Speaker 14: dismissive of not just the arguments in defense of Israel,
36:14
Speaker 14: the only Jewish state in the world, but also anything
36:18
Speaker 14: one said about being Jewish and the horrific atrocities that
36:22
Speaker 14: were carried out on October seventh, which I pointed out
36:25
Speaker 14: to them actually were a genocide. What Hamas and the
36:28
Speaker 14: Palestinian terrorists did on that day in twenty twenty three
36:32
Speaker 14: was textbook case of genocide. They launched this indiscriminate attack
36:36
Speaker 14: on mostly civilians, killing, raping, torturing and kidnapping them in
36:42
Speaker 14: order to try to diminish the Jewish population of Israel.
36:45
Speaker 14: They shouted as they did it that they were doing
36:47
Speaker 14: this for ji Had and that they didn't mind dying
36:50
Speaker 14: in the service of the nation of Islam. So I
36:53
Speaker 14: think it's a pretty clear cut case of genocide in that.
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Speaker 4: Instance, and it was pretty shocked looking through that debate.
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Speaker 4: One of the people arguing against the motion along with yourself, asked,
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Speaker 4: if you were aware of October seven being planned, would
37:11
Speaker 4: you have alerted authorities? And only around I think five
37:15
Speaker 4: percent of students put up their hand and said yes,
37:18
Speaker 4: they would have alerted authorities, knowing full well that women
37:22
Speaker 4: were raped, children were murdered. Just the absolute depravity that
37:26
Speaker 4: took place that day. Now, let's talk about what's happened
37:29
Speaker 4: in the last couple of days, the groundbreaking announcement from
37:33
Speaker 4: President Trump after his meeting with Israel Prime Minister Israeli
37:37
Speaker 4: Prime Minister Benjamin nettin Yahoo, Explain to me why you
37:41
Speaker 4: believe this is a seismic shift that will redefine the
37:46
Speaker 4: Middle East.
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Speaker 14: I wrote about this in my column in the Spectator
37:52
Speaker 14: here in the UK, and I think that this is
37:55
Speaker 14: a disruption of long entrenched, failed orthodoxies. It was unveiling
38:00
Speaker 14: a vision that dared to reimagine the Middle East in
38:04
Speaker 14: completely new ways. Along with benjaminette Nia, who the Israeli
38:08
Speaker 14: Prime Minister, the two of them showed that the region
38:11
Speaker 14: can break free of these decades of confusion and violence
38:16
Speaker 14: which has been perpetuated by Palestinian rejectionism. It has been
38:21
Speaker 14: decades that world leaders have clung to these exhausted formulas,
38:26
Speaker 14: peace processes built on illusions, and agreements predicated on fantasy,
38:31
Speaker 14: and generally a willful refusal to acknowledge the fundamental realities
38:36
Speaker 14: of Palestinian rejection of an Israeli Jewish state. I think
38:41
Speaker 14: that everybody knows if there was the prospect of a
38:44
Speaker 14: Palestinian leadership that could create a state and live side
38:47
Speaker 14: by side with Israelis with Jews in the Middle East,
38:51
Speaker 14: then that would have happened long ago. But it's very
38:53
Speaker 14: clear that that's never been the agenda of mainstream Palestinian
38:57
Speaker 14: leaders and politicians, and that, of course, all came to
38:59
Speaker 14: a head on October the seventh. So I think what
39:01
Speaker 14: Donald Trump has done in expressing a desire to permanently
39:05
Speaker 14: change that situation in Gaza, and indeed in rejecting the
39:09
Speaker 14: very concept of a two state fantasy is entirely valid.
39:13
Speaker 14: And I think that the rest of the world's got
39:15
Speaker 14: to catch up with his thinking on this one.
39:19
Speaker 4: And Olald Trump hasn't just rejected the two state fantasy,
39:22
Speaker 4: He's completely rejected the UN and it's bias in this area.
39:27
Speaker 3: He has pulled the US out of the.
39:30
Speaker 4: UN Human Rights Council, He's cut funding to ANOA, he
39:35
Speaker 4: wants a review of ENESCO again. And this is a
39:39
Speaker 4: dramatic departure from what we've seen in the past.
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Speaker 3: Jonathan, that's right.
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Speaker 14: He used another executive order to give this forceful rejection
39:49
Speaker 14: of those long standing UN biases against Israel. He removed
39:53
Speaker 14: the financial and diplomatic support from institutions that have systematically
39:58
Speaker 14: worked against Israel's legit in timacy on the world stage.
40:01
Speaker 14: And the UN really has been doing that. The UN
40:03
Speaker 14: has been effectively bolstering and supporting terrorism among the Palestinians.
40:08
Speaker 14: So he cut all US funding to unreciting its infiltration
40:12
Speaker 14: by designated terrorist groups. We've seen those links with Hamas,
40:16
Speaker 14: We've seen that it's being corrupted by Hamas and other groups.
40:19
Speaker 14: From October the seventh and beyond and He also made
40:23
Speaker 14: sure that the US withdrew from the Human Rights Council,
40:27
Speaker 14: which Israel has now done as well, because that Council
40:30
Speaker 14: seems obsessed with persecuting Israel. It has a permanent agenda
40:35
Speaker 14: item which is to attack Israel. No other state in
40:38
Speaker 14: the entire world has that status, only Israel. So it's
40:42
Speaker 14: blindingly obvious to anyone that looks at it that this
40:46
Speaker 14: is a UN body which is designed not to protect
40:49
Speaker 14: human rights but actually to attack Israel as some sort
40:52
Speaker 14: of human rights abuser, worse than any other state on
40:55
Speaker 14: the entire planet. It's quite ridiculous. And I think that
40:58
Speaker 14: Trump has done an amazing thing in signaling to the
41:01
Speaker 14: world that, you know, the leader of the free world
41:04
Speaker 14: that America, at least under his leadership, is not going
41:08
Speaker 14: to put up any longer with that kind of view
41:11
Speaker 14: and activity. Even the Yenesco, which is meant to look
41:14
Speaker 14: after culture, has been actively working against Israel by trying
41:18
Speaker 14: to disassociate Jewish Israeli history from places like the Temple
41:24
Speaker 14: mount on the Western Wall.
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Speaker 4: Jonathan Sacha, Dottie, thank you so much for your time
41:28
Speaker 4: this evening.
41:29
Speaker 3: Thank you still to come.
41:31
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift's boyfriend fawns over Donald Trump.
41:35
Speaker 3: What would she think of that? Kinsey Schofield is up next.
41:48
Speaker 4: Welcome back joining me now, celebrity and role commentator Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey,
41:54
Speaker 4: the case brought forward by the Heritage Foundation questioning Prince
41:58
Speaker 4: Harry's USA VSA has been officially reopened, and the judge
42:04
Speaker 4: has expressed a willingness to release as much unredacted data
42:09
Speaker 4: from Harry's sacred vasa records as possible.
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Speaker 3: This could be very interesting. Indeed, that's right.
42:17
Speaker 17: Judge Nichols has seen the secret records himself, but they
42:20
Speaker 17: are currently sealed. Per a personal source, the whole legal
42:24
Speaker 17: battle could be terminated at a moment's notice if the
42:28
Speaker 17: General Counsel at Homeland Security determines that Harry's visa status
42:32
Speaker 17: was of sufficient public interest for purposes of transparency and
42:37
Speaker 17: good governance to release the file. So it could happen
42:42
Speaker 17: any second.
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Speaker 12: Now.
42:43
Speaker 17: I think that that's what's so interesting about this. It
42:45
Speaker 17: could happen any day, any second. And I've been interviewed
42:49
Speaker 17: about this a lot, and I think you've noticed this too.
42:51
Speaker 17: Harry and Meghan's tone has changed when it comes to
42:54
Speaker 17: the new administration. They seem to be keeping a tightlet lately.
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Speaker 4: They do. If the Trump administration ultimately ends up deporting
43:05
Speaker 4: Prince Harry, I might never stop laughing. That would just
43:10
Speaker 4: be the most hilarious thing to ever happens.
43:13
Speaker 3: Just could you just imagine that headline?
43:16
Speaker 4: So we'll be watching with baited breath to see what
43:19
Speaker 4: happens next.
43:20
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Meghan mark All has been accused of virtue.
43:23
Speaker 4: Signaling and attention seeking again. This is after she posted
43:28
Speaker 4: a video to Instagram where she showed off a gift
43:31
Speaker 4: she had acquired for a family that she became friendly
43:35
Speaker 4: with after their home was destroyed by the LA Fires.
43:38
Speaker 4: The gift was a Billie Eilish T shirt that the
43:41
Speaker 4: singer herself had given Markle to pass on to the
43:44
Speaker 4: family for their daughter, Kinsey. This is a lovely thing,
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Speaker 4: but of course, did the whole thing need to be
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Speaker 4: documented on camera and shared on social media For the
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Speaker 4: fiercely private Megan.
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Speaker 3: She couldn't just do this nice gest suhirt quietly, amen.
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Speaker 17: I mean, can you imagine Princess Diana recording a selfie
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Speaker 17: video name dropping George Michael to publicly announce something nice
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Speaker 17: she had done for basically a stranger, And you're a
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Speaker 17: mother of two. Why are you pretending like you don't
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Speaker 17: know what a lunch box is? She holds up this
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Speaker 17: Billy Eilish lunch box and she's like a lunch box.
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Speaker 17: I guess you've birthed two children that are in school.
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Speaker 17: I imagine you know what a lunch box is. But
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Speaker 17: you're right, stop name dropping and stop using tragedy to
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Speaker 17: promote your brand. When is she going to learn a lesson?
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Speaker 4: Well, this seems to be their full time job right now,
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Speaker 4: just getting little bits of media coverage here and there.
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Speaker 4: We like to help them out where we can. Badn't
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Speaker 4: said to have any sort of meaningful employment beyond these videos. Now,
44:49
Speaker 4: let's talk about Justin Baldoni's PR specialist, Jed Wallace, his
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Speaker 4: firm Street Relations, Inc. Is suing Blake Lively for defamation
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Speaker 4: after she claimed Wallace and the company sexually harassed to
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Speaker 4: enabled others to sexually harass he, and breach day contract
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Speaker 4: with her, amongst other alleged misconduct.
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Speaker 3: What else can you tell me about this?
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Speaker 11: Well?
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Speaker 17: I can tell you that this is now the fifth
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Speaker 17: lawsuit associated with Blake versus Baldoni, and we're exhausted by
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Speaker 17: it now based on Justin's recent release of documents. An
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Speaker 17: expert I spoke to says Blake will fold. It's the
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Speaker 17: only way to save face. So I think, really the
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Speaker 17: countdown is on to see Blake and Ryan eat some
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Speaker 17: humble pie because their brands have taken such a giant
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Speaker 17: nosedive because of this and brands along with Megan Markle.
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Speaker 17: A lot of it is about trust, and when you
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Speaker 17: read Blake's allegations versus the receipts Justin Baldoni has released,
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Speaker 17: you start to question her truthfulness, You start to question
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Speaker 17: her honesty.
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Speaker 4: Well, this whole Sarka started when videos to merge of
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Speaker 4: Black Live. They're being less than kind to a number
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Speaker 4: of different people, including people interviewing her, and it seemed
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Speaker 4: like to try to repair her damage, she came up
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Speaker 4: with these wild allegations against Justin Baldoni, accusing him of
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Speaker 4: this pr campaign, accusing him of all sorts of other things,
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Speaker 4: and that has really undone her so much more. I
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Speaker 4: think people would have forgiven and forgotten some of those
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Speaker 4: mean girl moments that we were exposed to, but not this,
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Speaker 4: Because you're so right, this goes to her credibility as
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Speaker 4: a woman, coming up with these allegations that if they're
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Speaker 4: not accurate, it just detracts from every genuine victim who
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Speaker 4: actually faces this sort of treatment. Meanwhile, we've got Justin
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Speaker 4: Baldoni's lawyer threatening to call Taylor Swift and get a
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Speaker 4: deposition from her if Lively continues to be uncooperative. Swift
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Speaker 4: is said to have paid quite a role in this
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Speaker 4: hole and it ends with us, Saga, tell me about
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Speaker 4: what role she played.
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Speaker 17: Well, Justin Baldoni walks us through this kind of confrontation
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Speaker 17: that's had where Blake is trying to convince him that
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Speaker 17: her script for the scene on the roof is better
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Speaker 17: because Ryan Reynolds does it's better, and her friend who
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Speaker 17: happens to pop up in the middle of this meeting,
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Speaker 17: superstar Taylor Swift, also gives it that the thumbs up.
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Speaker 17: So he felt like he was, you know, kind of
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Speaker 17: bullied into approving Blake's version of this script when he's
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Speaker 17: supposed to be the director. This is his production company.
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Speaker 17: But I don't know if you knew this. A few
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Speaker 17: days ago, their attorneys were in court and a judge
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Speaker 17: warned both parties stop trying this case in the media,
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Speaker 17: and you're seeing Baldoni's attorney defiantly disobeying the judge's recent orders.
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Speaker 17: My source says it's because they are so confident in
47:55
Speaker 17: that the evidence is in Baldoni's favor that they're acting fearlessly.
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Speaker 17: But just to the super Bowl. I know we're going
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Speaker 17: to talk about Travis in a second. There are rumors
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Speaker 17: that Blake and Ryan will watch the super Bowl with
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Speaker 17: Taylor in New Orleans. Blake and Ryan, you know, friends
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Speaker 17: with Taylor, will also love New Orleans. It's my personal
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Speaker 17: opinion that if they are not there like they were
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Speaker 17: the last time, that there is issues going on behind
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Speaker 17: the scenes with their friendship. Perhaps Taylor trying to distance
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Speaker 17: herself from Blake and Ryan.
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Speaker 4: Oh that's not what a BFF does. They stick with
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Speaker 4: you when you're going through it that I dump you
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Speaker 4: and just quickly on the super Bowl and Taylor Swift
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Speaker 4: and her boyfriend NFL player Travis Kelsey.
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Speaker 3: Kelsey has said that it's.
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Speaker 4: Awesome and a great honor that Donald Trump will be
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Speaker 4: attending the super Bowl.
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Speaker 3: Now we know.
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Speaker 4: Swift has attacked Donald Trump more than once. She backed
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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris in the recent election, so it's going to
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Speaker 4: be interesting how she copes with her boyfriend being very
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Speaker 4: open to Donald Trump, not just open, really being quite
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Speaker 4: honored by his presence. We've run out of time, Kinsey Schofield.
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Speaker 4: It's always a pleasure. Thanks for your time, and that's
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Speaker 4: it from me.
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Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow.
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Speaker 4: Night for lefties losing it at nine pm up next
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Speaker 4: is Newsnight.