Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Joe Tacopina | Defense Attorney | 05-27-26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Best defense attorney in the world today, usually on Fridays,
- 0:03Speaker 1: but he was in Germany last Friday, so he hops
- 0:06Speaker 1: on this week on a Wednesday morning. My guy Jojo talk,
- 0:10Speaker 1: good morning, Pile.
- 0:10Speaker 2: How are you good, brother, How are you doing?
- 0:13Speaker 3: You know you're back in the United States right.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Yeah, for for a day or so. Then we we
- 0:18Speaker 2: head over to Italy for my son Matt's weddings. So yes,
- 0:22Speaker 2: you know, get married. So the whole cruise heading over,
- 0:25Speaker 2: Tish and the kids and everyone, so we have his
- 0:27Speaker 2: wedding on Saturday.
- 0:29Speaker 3: Mazo tough.
- 0:29Speaker 2: I know.
- 0:29Speaker 1: I called you last week, maybe two weeks ago, and
- 0:32Speaker 1: you were getting your tuxedo fitter.
- 0:33Speaker 3: How'd that go?
- 0:36Speaker 2: Not as well as I were? Of light? And apparently
- 0:41Speaker 2: that wasn't tough. But that's okay.
- 0:44Speaker 3: What what? What town in Italy? Is Matthew getting married
- 0:48Speaker 3: in Rebello?
- 0:49Speaker 2: Rebello place? Obviously, I've never been to, despite all my
- 0:52Speaker 2: years of Italian football and all that. Rebella's in near
- 0:55Speaker 2: the Mouthfea coast, near a Napolis, so beautiful postly a
- 0:58Speaker 2: beautiful place, I'm sure it isn't.
- 1:00Speaker 1: You haven't so you never even went there when you
- 1:02Speaker 1: owned all those soccer teams.
- 1:03Speaker 2: You never went uh no, no, no, ye, Like it's
- 1:07Speaker 2: a destination spot, right, you know, one of the I
- 1:10Speaker 2: don't even think they have a soccer team, so it's
- 1:12Speaker 2: more of a you know, a place where.
- 1:13Speaker 3: The Kabechi place go, yeah place, right exactly.
- 1:17Speaker 1: So the towns when you won your soccer teams, I
- 1:19Speaker 1: think you were in Katania at one point.
- 1:21Speaker 3: Right where else were you in Italy?
- 1:23Speaker 2: Well, I started out with as Roma. I was the
- 1:25Speaker 2: vice president there for four years, one of the biggest
- 1:26Speaker 2: clubs in the world. Put that deal together and I
- 1:29Speaker 2: went became president of Bologna. We won the championship there,
- 1:31Speaker 2: became president of Venetzia. We won back to back championships there,
- 1:36Speaker 2: then went to Ferrara. I wasn't Kitania, but we never
- 1:38Speaker 2: closed that deal, so I did. I was down there
- 1:40Speaker 2: for a little bit, but then we went to uh
- 1:42Speaker 2: Spall and Ferrara.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Oh that's right, that's right.
- 1:45Speaker 2: That was a grand finale, that's right.
- 1:46Speaker 1: And then when you were running all those teams and
- 1:49Speaker 1: winning and magazine covers all over and they were knighting you,
- 1:53Speaker 1: sir Takapina, your friend there, Mike Piazza, he got involved
- 1:57Speaker 1: in soccer in Italy too, right.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Yeah, my buddy Mike did. He didn't listen today. Really,
- 2:02Speaker 2: as far as the perils of Italian football, it's not
- 2:06Speaker 2: for the for the week of heart and and really
- 2:09Speaker 2: there's a lot of Honestly, I wouldn't recommend it for
- 2:12Speaker 2: anyone that is saying is really it's a difficult place.
- 2:16Speaker 2: And and Mike trusted people that you know, convinced him
- 2:19Speaker 2: to join and and and and come into the league.
- 2:21Speaker 2: And I was telling him that, you know, he really
- 2:23Speaker 2: had to surround himself the right people, people in to know,
- 2:26Speaker 2: people who weren't just as friends. So she had eaten
- 2:28Speaker 2: up over there Mike got Unfortunately. You know, Mike's a
- 2:31Speaker 2: great guy, I mean a terrific guy as a person, brilliant,
- 2:34Speaker 2: obviously one of the greatest players of all time. And
- 2:37Speaker 2: but there he had a rough run.
- 2:40Speaker 3: So are you.
- 2:41Speaker 1: We'll move off soccer in a second. But yesterday right
- 2:44Speaker 1: here peer seventeen South Street Seaport, they announced the twenty
- 2:48Speaker 1: six man roster the American team, and Weston McKenny spoke,
- 2:52Speaker 1: and no one knows who that is. And Christian Poolas spoke,
- 2:56Speaker 1: no one knows who that is. And people are very
- 2:58Speaker 1: angry that Diego Luna didn't make the team, and no
- 3:00Speaker 1: one knows who that is. But I would saying no one.
- 3:02Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's there's millions and millions of soccer
- 3:05Speaker 1: bands around the world. It's the world's most popular sport.
- 3:08Speaker 1: It never took here. They tried with Beckham, They're trying
- 3:10Speaker 1: with Messi in Miami, but it never took. But you know, listen,
- 3:13Speaker 1: during the World Cup, you're gonna find every bar on
- 3:16Speaker 1: first Avenue, second Avenue, third Avenue packed with the raging
- 3:21Speaker 1: Americans and Europeans looting for their teams.
- 3:24Speaker 3: Are you crazy American during this World Cup?
- 3:27Speaker 4: Or?
- 3:28Speaker 3: But did the Italians have a team?
- 3:31Speaker 2: We used to have a team. I think they they
- 3:32Speaker 2: disbanded their team. I mean, I think we're competing in
- 3:35Speaker 2: the Special Olympics see the Italian national team. Yeah, in
- 3:39Speaker 2: the World Cups. I mean, they missed that third World
- 3:40Speaker 2: Cup in e Rosa. It's the most disgusting thing I've
- 3:42Speaker 2: ever been involved in. I've been involved in the Italian Federation,
- 3:45Speaker 2: the Italian Tacks Federation's executive committee, and I'd have a
- 3:48Speaker 2: seat there and I have just about had it with that.
- 3:52Speaker 2: I mean, the Italian soccer league, which I mean we
- 3:54Speaker 2: have four World Championships, Billy, okay, second most of Brazil.
- 3:59Speaker 2: They've missed the l three World Cups because they can't qualify,
- 4:02Speaker 2: and that is just one of the most ridiculous things.
- 4:04Speaker 3: Crazy.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you have a country that lives on soccer,
- 4:08Speaker 2: has been one of the most dominant countries in the
- 4:10Speaker 2: history of soccer, and and the last three three World Cups.
- 4:14Speaker 2: That's that's that's crazy. Have sixteen years, right, sixteen years
- 4:18Speaker 2: front to back have not been in the World Cup
- 4:20Speaker 2: because Italy is so fatalistic and everything they do, and
- 4:24Speaker 2: that's not a good place to do business.
- 4:25Speaker 3: By the way, I think.
- 4:26Speaker 1: By the way, I think the two guys I just
- 4:28Speaker 1: mentioned playing from America, McKenny and Pulasa both play in Italy.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Yeah they do. And that's the problem. Italians stop developing
- 4:38Speaker 2: their own talent, their young players, and they bring in
- 4:41Speaker 2: the best players from all over the world to play
- 4:42Speaker 2: in their big teams. The top ten goal scorers in
- 4:45Speaker 2: Italian football, Siria, there's not one Italian on that list,
- 4:49Speaker 2: not long and therefore that that's an ominous sign. How
- 4:53Speaker 2: the World Cup team's going to do. How the national
- 4:55Speaker 2: team's going to do. I'm saying I could care lesson
- 4:57Speaker 2: to be honest with you, Soccer is in my rearview mirror.
- 5:00Speaker 2: It's never my favorite sport. You know, hockey, baseball, football
- 5:04Speaker 2: right in my rear view mirror. And once I put
- 5:06Speaker 2: something in my rear view mirror, it is in my
- 5:07Speaker 2: rear view mirror. All right, about the World Cup? All right, guy,
- 5:12Speaker 2: of course I hope the United States America wins the
- 5:14Speaker 2: World Cup. But that's about as likely as you know,
- 5:17Speaker 2: me scoring a goal in the World Cup.
- 5:20Speaker 3: You're not even playing, right. So let's get to a guy.
- 5:23Speaker 1: We both moved for President Trump, and he's got these
- 5:26Speaker 1: legal cases going on now. I mean it's you know,
- 5:29Speaker 1: it's I don't think people realize this because you've got
- 5:31Speaker 1: to be keeping score, really, but the appeals courts are
- 5:34Speaker 1: so busy every day with Trump stuff, you know, unless
- 5:37Speaker 1: they're a big time loyal like you wouldn't even know it,
- 5:40Speaker 1: but almost every.
- 5:41Speaker 2: Day, right tech, Yeah, I mean, it's it's becoming really
- 5:47Speaker 2: something to say because you know, look, appeals courts are
- 5:51Speaker 2: now controlling the narratives here, okay, an appeals courts and
- 5:54Speaker 2: the dealing with so many cases for President Trump. But
- 5:57Speaker 2: they just put a big halt on that eighty three
- 5:59Speaker 2: million dollar payout to E. G. And Carroll, right, And
- 6:03Speaker 2: you know, I didn't think that was ever going to
- 6:04Speaker 2: come to fruition, and that was stopped in the tracks
- 6:07Speaker 2: because look, that's what appeals courts do. They give reality
- 6:10Speaker 2: checks to jury verdicts and trial courts. So appeals courts
- 6:16Speaker 2: matter more than trial headlines did. The difference between political
- 6:19Speaker 2: narratives and legal standards are peeals courts, right, because whatever happens,
- 6:23Speaker 2: you know, when a jury in President Trump's case, for example,
- 6:27Speaker 2: in New York, they hated him, clearly, the jury hate him, right,
- 6:30Speaker 2: so so they gave a ridiculous verdict against him. From
- 6:33Speaker 2: a monetary standpoint. In Alina's case, you know, it was
- 6:37Speaker 2: ridiculous that the Plaine deciding and answer that they asked
- 6:40Speaker 2: for twenty four million the jury award at eighty three.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Think about that. That's that's how that's what kind of
- 6:44Speaker 2: a fair three he had, right, So this is what
- 6:47Speaker 2: a pelic courts do. They straighten that stuff out. And
- 6:49Speaker 2: and you know, massive verdicts are increasingly increasingly vulnerable on
- 6:54Speaker 2: appeal now, and you're seeing that more and more so well,
- 6:57Speaker 2: the courts are becoming skeptical of emotion driven damages. I
- 7:02Speaker 2: think it's coming to portionit, I really do.
- 7:03Speaker 4: So.
- 7:04Speaker 2: Courts create headlines, appeals, courts create losses, and that's what
- 7:08Speaker 2: we have here. So the jury verdict is never the
- 7:10Speaker 2: final chapter. And I try and tell that to everyone.
- 7:12Speaker 2: It's it's sometimes it's just halftime, you know, of the
- 7:15Speaker 2: big game. And so you know, President Trump has a
- 7:17Speaker 2: lot of cases that have been reversed on a peel,
- 7:20Speaker 2: held up on appeal and his That's what the courts do.
- 7:24Speaker 2: And it's not just President Trump, it's all over the
- 7:26Speaker 2: country's status. Now.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Yeah, Tim Moore will let you run.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Joseph Tacopina, the best defense attorney in the world today,
- 7:32Speaker 1: my dear friend of forty eight years and his beautiful
- 7:34Speaker 1: boy Matthew, about to get married in Italy in a
- 7:36Speaker 1: couple of days. I didn't want to ask you about
- 7:38Speaker 1: the Attorney general because when Trump first got rid of
- 7:42Speaker 1: Bondy was a lot of talk that Leezeldon would be
- 7:45Speaker 1: the next age He got it, and if not Lee's Eldon.
- 7:48Speaker 1: A few whispers about everybody from Janine Piro to horn
- 7:52Speaker 1: Meat Dylan. He put Todd Blanche there as the interim guy,
- 7:56Speaker 1: and it's become increasingly clear that Todd Blanche isn't going anywhere.
- 8:00Speaker 1: That's his job. He's going to be Trump's ag. What
- 8:03Speaker 1: are your thoughts on your friend Todd.
- 8:06Speaker 2: I'm known Todd both as a lawyer and a friendship.
- 8:09Speaker 2: And what separates him is not just his intellect, and
- 8:11Speaker 2: that's high, it's his character. So he's fiercely loyal, he's
- 8:16Speaker 2: deeply ethical, and he's never intimidated by pressure of politics.
- 8:20Speaker 2: So Todd's literally one of the smartest and toughest and
- 8:23Speaker 2: most principal laws I've ever met, really, and he brings
- 8:26Speaker 2: a certain sense of calm and judgment, integrity, and absolute fairness.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Every right. You saw him to deal with that Center
- 8:32Speaker 2: on television was trying to forward his mouth, and Todd
- 8:35Speaker 2: didn't get crazy, he didn't start insulting him. He just
- 8:38Speaker 2: stood his ground in a very sort of you know,
- 8:42Speaker 2: reminded me of the Reagan era. Wait, you know, you
- 8:44Speaker 2: were tough, but you were dignified tough, and that's exactly
- 8:48Speaker 2: the qualities you want in someone serving the American people
- 8:50Speaker 2: in such an important role. So for me, you know,
- 8:53Speaker 2: the best thing President Trump could do is is confirmed
- 8:56Speaker 2: Todd as the attorney generalist. He's the kind of lawyer
- 8:59Speaker 2: you want in a foxhole way. He's disciplined, he's strategic, unshakable,
- 9:03Speaker 2: and he's always three moves ahead. Tod and I've been
- 9:06Speaker 2: together for a while in cases. I love working with him.
- 9:09Speaker 2: You know, hopefully one day we get through it again
- 9:11Speaker 2: when he's out of that government position. But he's a terrific,
- 9:13Speaker 2: terrific and he's a great guy too. It's a massive
- 9:15Speaker 2: ranger head.
- 9:16Speaker 3: Then a massive ranger man.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Take the interim targoff President Trump and just make Blanche
- 9:21Speaker 1: the bull time ag one more.
- 9:23Speaker 3: You know. I bring on all these people to talk
- 9:25Speaker 3: about the war.
- 9:26Speaker 1: And of course you're known as his attorney, but you've
- 9:29Speaker 1: got this amazing army experience.
- 9:32Speaker 3: That's why you're in Germany last week.
- 9:34Speaker 1: And you've got a lot of friends, real friends, and
- 9:37Speaker 1: high positions. And your analysis of Iran has been spot on.
- 9:43Speaker 1: You've been practically perfect, okay, And it's not your job
- 9:46Speaker 1: to be, you know, political analyst on foreign policy, but
- 9:50Speaker 1: you've been spot on. And you use words like stuck
- 9:53Speaker 1: and these other words you know months ago, and I
- 9:56Speaker 1: started using them, and boy, it looks more and more
- 9:58Speaker 1: every day, Like you're right. So, whether we're talking about drone,
- 10:02Speaker 1: warpair or AI no ways to fight and to combat fight,
- 10:07Speaker 1: the truth is Iran situation is not about to wrap up,
- 10:11Speaker 1: Joseph Tacopina anytime soon, is it.
- 10:15Speaker 2: It's it's not said. And you know, look, I'm not
- 10:18Speaker 2: I don't take any pleasure in saying this, and I'm
- 10:20Speaker 2: not necessarily wanting to be right here. I want the
- 10:22Speaker 2: United States of America to come out on top. I
- 10:24Speaker 2: want our military to be safe and successful, and I
- 10:27Speaker 2: want the president, because he's our president, to win right
- 10:30Speaker 2: and I want us to win this war. It's now
- 10:33Speaker 2: a war. It's it's you know, it's different when we're
- 10:38Speaker 2: not in a situation where you know, we've declared victory
- 10:42Speaker 2: already a couple of times, and that's what's premature. We're
- 10:46Speaker 2: in a position where we are a bit stuck. The
- 10:48Speaker 2: strait is a problem. You know, our munitions are low.
- 10:53Speaker 2: You know, we're we're trying to resolve this word of deal.
- 10:56Speaker 2: But you know where we honestly are are credibility is
- 11:01Speaker 2: being questioned by our enemies. And that what I mean
- 11:04Speaker 2: by that is, you know we've already said there'll be
- 11:06Speaker 2: no deal, you know, other than unconditional surrender. Then there
- 11:10Speaker 2: is a deal, then there's no deal, and there's a ceasefire,
- 11:13Speaker 2: and then there's no ceasefire. And you know, it's like
- 11:15Speaker 2: the boy cried wolf. We have to be firm in
- 11:18Speaker 2: our position. Whatever that position is, we have to refirm it.
- 11:21Speaker 2: So a seas farmer's not enforcement is sort of just
- 11:23Speaker 2: the timeout. So it's it's time now we do something decisive.
- 11:28Speaker 2: And and you know, we really really have to make
- 11:32Speaker 2: a move here one way or another, whether it's resolving
- 11:34Speaker 2: this thing with some sort of a deal, and and
- 11:36Speaker 2: let's just move forward and move on, because you know,
- 11:40Speaker 2: a lot of the country is suffering from this war.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Right the the gas prices are said, I filled up
- 11:45Speaker 2: yes day my tank. It was six twenty. That was
- 11:48Speaker 2: one of those crazy Manhattan gas stations, right, but yeah,
- 11:50Speaker 2: six twenty a gallon. Yeah, that's the first time I
- 11:52Speaker 2: was like what. Yeah, I was like, oh my god,
- 11:55Speaker 2: what twenty bucks? Yeah, don't pull up just to be
- 11:57Speaker 2: twenty right. It's like, you know, and and and you know,
- 12:00Speaker 2: I'm fortunate enough where I can not stress too much
- 12:02Speaker 2: about the gas prices, but there are people who budget
- 12:05Speaker 2: literally the exact amount of dollars a month they spend
- 12:09Speaker 2: on gas. That has screwed up their entire monthly budget.
- 12:12Speaker 2: And these are a lot of his, you know, the
- 12:14Speaker 2: President's supporters, and we have to get that fixed before
- 12:18Speaker 2: the midtermalone.
- 12:18Speaker 3: No, we have to. And look, and I'm not a
- 12:20Speaker 3: war guy.
- 12:21Speaker 1: You know, you have a relationship with the generals and
- 12:23Speaker 1: the army, Greg Kelly, sir, But I'm.
- 12:25Speaker 3: A pretty smart guy. And the only way out of
- 12:28Speaker 3: this is a deal.
- 12:29Speaker 1: Because to really claim victory and win, we're gonna have
- 12:33Speaker 1: to kill a lot of people. What do I mean
- 12:35Speaker 1: by that, Well, you got to send our troops in
- 12:38Speaker 1: there because some of that in whiched uranium is in
- 12:41Speaker 1: those mountains. You can't get to them with air planes.
- 12:45Speaker 1: So now we're gonna lose. We're gonna lose our soldiers,
- 12:48Speaker 1: which Trump can't afford to do that. If you really
- 12:51Speaker 1: want regime change there, you're gonna kill more civilians. Trump
- 12:55Speaker 1: doesn't want to do that. To really take over the
- 12:57Speaker 1: straight it's gonna require more and more military. People are
- 13:01Speaker 1: gonna die all over that country. That's the lasting Trump wants.
- 13:05Speaker 1: But there's no other way to win, Am I wrong?
- 13:09Speaker 2: The city said, you really say that perfectly, And I
- 13:12Speaker 2: was just again with our generals in Germany and speaking
- 13:15Speaker 2: about this and talking about the Iran theater a sort
- 13:18Speaker 2: of assessment. And when I say Iran theater, I think,
- 13:20Speaker 2: do you understand what that means? That that's a sort
- 13:23Speaker 2: of a military phrase for how they describe a situation
- 13:29Speaker 2: and what's going on in a particular locale, meaning, you know,
- 13:33Speaker 2: it indicates the sort of elevated missile readiness and proxy
- 13:39Speaker 2: activation risks. It's all these sorts of things that are
- 13:42Speaker 2: going on in there in Iran. So when you say
- 13:46Speaker 2: around theater assessments of military intelligence erment generally means, you know,
- 13:49Speaker 2: the evaluation of entire operational environment involving Iran military, politically,
- 13:54Speaker 2: strategy regionally, and that's what we're dealing with right now.
- 13:57Speaker 2: So you're not wrong, You're right, and we have to
- 14:00Speaker 2: figure out a way out of this because this will
- 14:01Speaker 2: rams find to drag that's on forever. They haven't even
- 14:04Speaker 2: they still have some of the big boys as far
- 14:07Speaker 2: as their their missiles yep, ready to go. You know,
- 14:10Speaker 2: they still have it.
- 14:10Speaker 3: And they love it.
- 14:11Speaker 1: The longer they drag this out, the more they can
- 14:14Speaker 1: they stick the biggest, big mental pinga to the United States.
- 14:16Speaker 1: They're loving every second of this.
- 14:18Speaker 3: They want to dread this thing up forever exactly.
- 14:20Speaker 2: And they know they're doing damage to the president by
- 14:23Speaker 2: having this dragged out. They know that it's affecting the
- 14:26Speaker 2: American people. They they sort of mocked us in their
- 14:30Speaker 2: social media posts. It's unbelievable, like they're like, how do
- 14:33Speaker 2: those tax payers doing? How's the gas prices going there?
- 14:35Speaker 2: You know, it's it's like they so they don't seem
- 14:38Speaker 2: to be as effected. And remember, there are different mindset there.
- 14:41Speaker 2: It's a completely different mindset. They're not like us. They're
- 14:44Speaker 2: not worried about the GDP or they're not worried about inflation.
- 14:47Speaker 2: They're not worried about the gas prices. They don't even
- 14:49Speaker 2: they're not afraid to die. Okay, So it's just a
- 14:53Speaker 2: different mindset and they want and they hate obviously they
- 14:56Speaker 2: hated America before this started. We've now I think you're
- 15:00Speaker 2: poke the hornets nest, and I think we're in a
- 15:03Speaker 2: position where we're really going to have to try and
- 15:05Speaker 2: practice thing up before so this couldrad off for year, said,
- 15:08Speaker 2: we don't know Russia, Ukraine sits no, well, he probably right.
- 15:12Speaker 1: That's where his supporters are getting angry because you know,
- 15:15Speaker 1: it's one thing when you say America first and you
- 15:17Speaker 1: try to end a conflict that they started forty seven
- 15:20Speaker 1: years ago, that's great.
- 15:21Speaker 3: I was all for it.
- 15:22Speaker 1: But once you start talking about years like Afghanistan, like Iraq,
- 15:26Speaker 1: then that's where the president goes back on his promise.
- 15:29Speaker 3: You see his detractors right now don't know what the
- 15:32Speaker 3: hell they're talking about. He has not gone back on
- 15:33Speaker 3: his promise. He has not. Okay.
- 15:35Speaker 1: Sometimes America's first doesn't mean America only. Okay, America first
- 15:40Speaker 1: sometimes means you got to take out other countries, other nemeses.
- 15:45Speaker 3: To make sure we are America first.
- 15:46Speaker 1: But if it rags on too long, then their case
- 15:50Speaker 1: becomes more solid every day, and we don't want that anyway.
- 15:53Speaker 3: Have a safe trip.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Congratulations to you and Tish and Matthew and the whole
- 15:57Speaker 1: tack of Peanut family is a great kid, gorgeous. I
- 16:00Speaker 1: like you and enjoy Italy and we'll talk when you
- 16:02Speaker 1: get back. Congratulations on what was another amazing appearance.
- 16:07Speaker 2: Okay, my brother, thank you very much. Shello the family
- 16:09Speaker 2: you got it.
- 16:10Speaker 1: Love you, Joseph Tacopina right there, the best offense attorney
- 16:13Speaker 1: anywhere in the world, and my dear friend I'm proud
- 16:15Speaker 1: to say.
- 16:16Speaker 3: Of forty eight years.
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