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- 0:25description. So today we are wrestling with,
- 0:29well, maybe the biggest existential question facing
- 0:31global politics right now. Is the United Nations still the
- 0:34world's best last hope? That specific phrase, it's quite
- 0:39resonant, isn't it? It's rooted in history, linked
- 0:41directly to John F Kennedy's 1961 inaugural address.
- 0:44Apparently that was the one and only time AUS president actually
- 0:47chose to mention the UN in that particular speech.
- 0:49Quite something but that. Historical optimism.
- 0:52That kind of founding belief, it feels like it's in such stark
- 0:55contrast to where we are. Now I mean a world defined by
- 0:58overlapping global crises, intense geopolitical rivalry,
- 1:02and severe financial shortfalls within the system itself.
- 1:05Yeah, absolutely. We've been diving deep into
- 1:07sources that track these current existential challenges for the
- 1:11UN, and what emerges really consistently is 1 core truth.
- 1:16The UN's effectiveness is, and you know, it always has been,
- 1:18entirely conditional, conditional on the political
- 1:21will, the commitment of its member states.
- 1:24What makes this moment feel so acute, so critical, is that key
- 1:28central players, especially the major global powers, they just
- 1:31seem to be pivoting away from that multilateral commitment
- 1:34they're prioritizing, while short term national interests
- 1:37much more visibly so. Our mission in this deep dive is
- 1:40to explore the specific crisis points across the UN's 3
- 1:43foundational pillars, Peace and Security, Development and human
- 1:47rights. OK, let's start by grounding
- 1:49ourselves a bit in the history. Because the UN.
- 1:51Wasn't created in a vacuum, right?
- 1:52It was designed specifically, as I understand it, to fix the
- 1:54flaws of its predecessor, the League of Nations.
- 1:57For anyone who needs a quick refresher, the League was formed
- 1:59back in 1920 after World War One, and it essentially just
- 2:02dissolved in 1946 following the, well, the devastating outbreak
- 2:06of World War 2. Exactly.
- 2:08And the league's failure to prevent WWII, well, it provided
- 2:12EU NS founders in 1945 with an invaluable, though tragic
- 2:16blueprint of what not to do. The key differences, the
- 2:19structural improvements, those are really what have allowed the
- 2:22UN to survive where the league just collapsed.
- 2:25Probably the most crucial improvement was inclusivity.
- 2:27Right from the start, the UN included major powers,
- 2:31particularly the US and the USSR, now Russia.
- 2:34Of course, from the very beginning, the league, you
- 2:36remember, it fatally lacked the influence and participation of
- 2:39the United States. That was a huge gap.
- 2:42So that initial buy in from the world's heavy hitters gave the
- 2:45UN significantly more clout, more influence right out of the
- 2:48gate. Right, getting the big players
- 2:50to the table. But beyond who was at the table,
- 2:53the rules for making decisions were also fundamentally changed,
- 2:55weren't they? To avoid that kind of paralysis
- 2:58that crippled the league. Can you elaborate a bit on that
- 3:01decision making mechanism? How did they try to fix it?
- 3:03Yeah, that's where the structure really tried to modernize
- 3:06things. The League of Nations.
- 3:08It required unanimous decisions in both its General Assembly and
- 3:12its Security Council. Think about that.
- 3:15Every single member state effectively held veto power over
- 3:18every single substantive issue. It just made decisive action
- 3:22nearly impossible. Total gridlock potential.
- 3:25The UN General Assembly, by contrast, operates mostly on
- 3:29majority votes. That prevents that kind of
- 3:31general paralysis, at least in the GA.
- 3:33Then you look at the UN Security Council, the UNSC.
- 3:35Now it does have the controversial veto power held by
- 3:38the five permanent members, the P5, USA, France, Britain,
- 3:42Russia, China. We all know about that, but
- 3:45importantly the UN structure built in adaptation mechanisms
- 3:48that the league just didn't have.
- 3:49Such as the ability to actually bypass the veto entirely in some
- 3:52cases. That's what's really contributed
- 3:54to its resilience over the years, hasn't it?
- 3:56Yeah, exactly. That's a critical mechanism we
- 3:58need to unpack the Uniting for Peace resolution.
- 4:01This came about in 1950. It essentially created a kind of
- 4:05loophole designed specifically to prevent total paralysis.
- 4:08If the Security Council gets deadlocked because of AP5 veto,
- 4:12the resolution allows the General Assembly, where remember
- 4:15there is no veto, to step in and recommend collective measures
- 4:19that could even include the use of force, theoretically to
- 4:21restore international peace and security.
- 4:24Basically, it shifts the burden of response when the most
- 4:26powerful nations refuse to act or can't agree to act.
- 4:29It gives the UN system a kind of functional safety valve.
- 4:33That's fascinating. So even as they gave the P5 this
- 4:35immense power, the Founders almost immediately built in a
- 4:38mechanism to try and work around potential gridlock.
- 4:40Smart. But the UN also expanded its
- 4:42mandate way beyond just security, didn't it?
- 4:44Moving much more heavily into development and human rights.
- 4:47Oh, absolutely. And that broadened mandate is a
- 4:51massive part of the UN's longevity.
- 4:53Why it's still here. The League was almost
- 4:55exclusively focused on security and disarmament.
- 4:58Pretty narrow, really. The UN, though, recognized that.
- 5:01Poverty. Social injustice, these things
- 5:03fuel conflict. So it dedicated vast resources,
- 5:07relatively speaking, to socioeconomic development on
- 5:09good governance. You see this in the
- 5:11establishment of all the specialized agencies, you know,
- 5:14WHO, UNICEF, UNDP, and the creation of big global
- 5:17frameworks like the Millennium Development Goals and now the
- 5:20Sustainable Development Goals, the SDGS setting these ambitious
- 5:24targets for global improvement. And, importantly, the League had
- 5:28no real mechanism to champion individual rights.
- 5:31The UN, on the other hand, enshrined the Universal
- 5:34Declaration of Human Rights right after its founding in 48.
- 5:36That was fundamental. OK.
- 5:38So the UN was definitely designed to be more inclusive,
- 5:41more flexible, broader in scope. Seems like a clear improvement.
- 5:45Yet they still seem to share some fundamental weaknesses,
- 5:47don't they? Challenges that have persisted
- 5:49for, well, a century now, if you count the League.
- 5:51What are those enduring political and structural
- 5:54headaches? Well, the central political
- 5:55challenges remain stubbornly similar.
- 5:57Unfortunately, both organizations have always faced
- 6:01that criticism of being merely tools of powerful nations.
- 6:04You hear it all the time. The League leaned heavily on
- 6:07Britain and France. The UN historically has been
- 6:09very heavily influenced by the US and that leads to frequent
- 6:13accusations, especially from emerging powers in the global
- 6:16South, of a kind of pro western bias.
- 6:18And the most practical persistent weakness is probably
- 6:20that neither organization has true independent authority to
- 6:23enforce its will. Right.
- 6:25No UN army. Precisely.
- 6:26Neither the UN nor the League possesses a permanent standing
- 6:30army. That's key.
- 6:31Enforcement capability is always, always contingent on
- 6:34member states volunteering troops and resources.
- 6:36Blue helmets come from national armies.
- 6:39So if national capitals decide not to act or not to contribute,
- 6:42the UN's resolutions are essentially just paper hollow.
- 6:46And finally, financial dependency.
- 6:48That's a shared Achilles heel. The UN is, and has long been
- 6:52really reliant on specific large donors, making it acutely
- 6:55susceptible to the financial whims or frankly, the political
- 6:58leverage of countries like the United States when they threaten
- 7:01to pull funding. It matters a lot.
- 7:04OK, let's pivot now to the present day and dive into the
- 7:07state of those 3 foundational pillars, starting with pillar
- 7:09one, Peace and security. This is really where the world's
- 7:12headlines seem to intersect most visibly with UN paralysis, isn't
- 7:15it? Absolutely.
- 7:16The sources we looked at confirm that peace and security efforts
- 7:19are just severely compromised right now by these great power
- 7:22disagreements when the P5 are fundamentally opposed.
- 7:25And we see the so clearly in situations like Ukraine, Gaza,
- 7:28Sudan, the Security Council becomes what one source called
- 7:32frustratingly paralyzed, just stuck.
- 7:35Core global security issues get stranded.
- 7:37The ability to impose sanctions or authorize effective missions.
- 7:41It just disappears in that gridlock.
- 7:43And this political paralysis, it's amplified by what sounds
- 7:45like a deep operational crisis in peacekeeping itself.
- 7:49The numbers you mentioned on budget cuts are genuinely
- 7:51alarming. They really are.
- 7:52The sources paint a frankly dire picture.
- 7:55The 11 peace operations currently running worldwide.
- 7:58They're facing up to an overall 25% budget reduction.
- 8:02That's huge. To put that in perspective, the
- 8:05total budget for peace missions has shrunk from about $7.2
- 8:08billion a decade ago down to $5.6 billion for 2024-2025.
- 8:14This kind of drastic reduction forces the UN into making these
- 8:17agonizing choices. Either you reduce the
- 8:20effectiveness of missions already on the ground, spread
- 8:22them thinner, or you withdraw entirely from crucial areas.
- 8:26It fundamentally changes peacekeeping potentially from a
- 8:29proactive force to more of a reactive observer in really key
- 8:32regions. And we've seen the real world
- 8:34consequences of this struggle, haven't we, in places like Mali,
- 8:37where the UN Mission Minos Ma had withdraw, and the Congo
- 8:40Manusco, where missions are struggling desperately to
- 8:42deliver on these massive mandates they're given.
- 8:45This really illustrates the evolution of the peacekeeping
- 8:47mandate itself, which seems to have changed dramatically since
- 8:49the UN's early days. Oh, the evolution is absolutely
- 8:52a key factor in the current crisis.
- 8:54It's crucial to understand this. The original concept back after
- 8:581948 was pretty straightforward. UN missions were intended
- 9:01strictly to preserve an existing peace, a ceasefire usually.
- 9:05They were lightly armed, strictly impartial, and
- 9:08critically, they're required consent from all the conflict
- 9:10parties involved. But then the Cold War ended in
- 9:1389 and the nature of conflict shifted dramatically.
- 9:16Suddenly we saw complex internal conflicts, ethnic cleansing,
- 9:20religious wars, state collapse. Think Rwanda, Yugoslavia.
- 9:23Right. And the mass atrocities
- 9:25committed in places like Sabrenica and Rwanda became this
- 9:28sort of moral reckoning for the UN, didn't they?
- 9:30Forcing a really painful recognition that the traditional
- 9:33peacekeepers often lack the mandate or frankly, the means to
- 9:37actually protect civilians caught in the crossfire.
- 9:40Precisely that terrible experience LED directly to the
- 9:43post 1989 shift toward more robust, or sometimes called
- 9:47militarized mandates. Chapter 7 Mandates peacekeepers
- 9:51were given greater authority and sometimes the firepower to
- 9:54protect civilians even without everyone's consent.
- 9:56But then in the 2000s and 20 tens, the mandates expanded
- 9:59again into these highly complex, multidimensional missions.
- 10:03The sources described these missions as being tasked with,
- 10:05well, practically everything counterterrorism support, State
- 10:09Building, human rights monitoring, election support and
- 10:12civilian protection. One analyst suggested these
- 10:14missions are asked to be like a Swiss army knife, simultaneously
- 10:17A peacekeeper, a counter terror unit, A development agency and a
- 10:21local government advisor. That staggering level of
- 10:23expectation combined with dwindling financial support?
- 10:26Well, it's a recipe for why many are seen as failing to achieve
- 10:29their incredibly complex success criteria.
- 10:31OK. So given this really difficult
- 10:34operational environment and the complex mandates, let's talk
- 10:37about the efforts to maybe decentralize some of the
- 10:39security responsibility, particularly pushing it towards
- 10:42regional players. We have some specific detail on
- 10:44this, don't we, especially concerning Africa.
- 10:46Yes, this is a critical strategic direction and it's
- 10:49championed by many like minded states, including Denmark.
- 10:53There is a strong push to strengthen partnerships with
- 10:55regional actors, most importantly the African Union.
- 10:58The AUA major focus here is supporting UN Security Council
- 11:02Resolution 20 2719 that was passed in 2023.
- 11:06This resolution is vital because it allows for assessed UN
- 11:08contributions, meaning mandatory reliable payments from all
- 11:12member states to finance AU LED peace operations.
- 11:15This directly addresses 2 long standing problems.
- 11:18One, the need for more regionally owned solutions,
- 11:20African solutions for African problems.
- 11:22That's a phrase often used. And two, the chronic
- 11:25underfunding of these African LED initiatives, which often
- 11:28rely on voluntary, unpredictable funding.
- 11:30Right. Getting reliable funding for
- 11:32regional efforts and this kind of initiative, it's a core focus
- 11:35for nations that are actively engaged in the UNSC, like
- 11:39Denmark, which is currently serving for the 20252026 term.
- 11:43So what specific strategies are they in countries like them
- 11:47prioritizing to try and deal with the paralysis and these
- 11:50complex challenges? Well, Denmark certainly
- 11:52recognizes the deadlock, the difficulty, but their approach
- 11:55focuses on constructive engagement anyway, trying to
- 11:58find openings. They are prioritizing, for
- 12:00example, conflict prevention, trying to get ahead of crises,
- 12:04and reforming the 2005 peace Building architecture that
- 12:07encompasses the Peace Building Commission and the Peace
- 12:10Building Fund. The goal there is to ensure
- 12:12better integration with civil society on the ground and
- 12:15greater efficiency in delivering results at the country level.
- 12:18They are essentially trying to strengthen the parts of the UN
- 12:20system that function before a conflict totally spirals out of
- 12:23control, which is crucial of course, when the council itself
- 12:26can't agree on intervention later on.
- 12:28OK, that makes sense. Let's shift gears now to Pillar
- 12:302 development. The UN has actually seen massive
- 12:34success here historically, hasn't it?
- 12:35Building global consensus around things like the Sustainable
- 12:38Development Goals, the SDGS, and the Paris Agreement on climate
- 12:42change. Yet this progress now seems to
- 12:44be in severe retreat. It's a real paradox.
- 12:46Multilateral action, when it works, can and does yield
- 12:50significant results. The sources absolutely noted
- 12:53that global warming projections, for example, dropped quite
- 12:55significantly because of the framework set up by the Paris
- 12:58Agreement. That's a tangible success.
- 13:01However, we are now just five years away from the 2030
- 13:04deadline for the SD GS, and the sources state very clearly that
- 13:08no single goal is currently on track to be met.
- 13:10Zero. In fact, progress is actually
- 13:13reversing across key indicators, poverty, hunger, education, a
- 13:16trend that was dramatically worsened by the COVID-19
- 13:19pandemic, which just pushed millions back into extreme
- 13:22poverty and disrupted everything.
- 13:24And fueling this reversal, or at least making it much harder to
- 13:27combat, is what sounds like a financial catastrophe within the
- 13:31UN system itself. This liquidity crisis isn't just
- 13:34a budget line item, it sounds like a genuine humanitarian
- 13:37threat. It is a severe threat, yeah, and
- 13:39it's compounded by member states simply failing to pay their dues
- 13:42on time or in full. By early 2025, apparently only
- 13:4775 out of 193 member states have paid their ordinary budget dues
- 13:51in full. That's less than half the
- 13:54financial cuts, and specifically the withdrawal or withholding of
- 13:57funds by major donors, particularly the US
- 13:59historically, but others too are described in our sources with
- 14:03frankly shocking severity. One source actually referred to
- 14:06this kind of defunding, especially of humanitarian and
- 14:09development work, as potentially the greatest crime against the
- 14:12entire idea of international human development, warning that
- 14:15these cuts could directly jeopardize humanitarian aid for
- 14:17up to 30 million people who depend on it.
- 14:20Aid workers view this kind of chronic underfunding as
- 14:22potentially a larger, slower burning humanitarian catastrophe
- 14:25than many of the high profile conflicts combined.
- 14:27Wow, so when the money dries up like this, the focus inevitably
- 14:31shifts, doesn't it? Towards efficiency?
- 14:33Internal reform? That whole idea of doing more
- 14:37with less. Absolutely.
- 14:38That becomes the mantra. And this is where countries like
- 14:41the Nordic nations, including Denmark, tend to gain
- 14:43credibility and really push for structural efficiency reforms.
- 14:47They often champion the One UN structure, trying to make the
- 14:50system work Better Together. The concept behind One UN and
- 14:54Copenhagen's UN city is often cited as a kind of model for
- 14:57this physical Co location. It's pretty simple.
- 15:00Merge overlapping agency mandates where possible, reduce
- 15:03duplication, and, importantly, relocate staff from expensive
- 15:06headquarters like New York or Geneva to regional hubs or
- 15:09directly into the field. The idea is to reduce
- 15:12bureaucratic overlap, cut overhead costs, and
- 15:15theoretically put resources closer to the people they're
- 15:18actually meant to serve. That brings up a really crucial
- 15:20point about credibility, doesn't it?
- 15:21We see that Denmark, for instance, by maintaining its
- 15:24long standing commitment to the .7% GNI target for development
- 15:27aid, gains the necessary leverage the standing to push
- 15:31these difficult reforms on others.
- 15:33That financial commitment is absolutely their currency in
- 15:36these discussions. In a world where overall global
- 15:39aid is actually declining from many traditional donors, that
- 15:42reliability gives them the moral and political authority to
- 15:45insist on efficiency and reform from the UN system itself.
- 15:49And this leverage is crucial because, as the sources warn,
- 15:52these reforms must avoid simply becoming a donor driven savings
- 15:57exercise, just cutting costs for the sake of cutting costs.
- 16:01If it's perceived that way, it just alienates the global S who
- 16:04often feel the cuts most directly.
- 16:07The reform has to genuinely focus on better delivery of core
- 16:10tasks across all pillars, not just become an exercise in
- 16:14austerity dictated by the North. Right, very delicate balance.
- 16:16Now let's turn to Pillar 3, human rights.
- 16:19Historically, this has arguably been one of EU NS greatest
- 16:21successes. Right created these mechanisms
- 16:23for individuals to actually seek justice against states.
- 16:25It's a massive legal and normative shift since 1945.
- 16:28It truly redefined global governance in many ways, giving
- 16:32the individual standing against their own state at the
- 16:34international level. That was revolutionary.
- 16:37The 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights and then the
- 16:40subsequent establishment of all the international conventions on
- 16:43torture, on racial discrimination, on women's
- 16:45rights, children's rights and the committees to monitor them
- 16:49created this unprecedented system of accountability.
- 16:52Yet this vital pillar is now facing a really dangerous 2
- 16:55pronged crisis. One, severe underfunding, and
- 16:59two, an intense geopolitical attack.
- 17:01Let's start with the money, or lack thereof.
- 17:04The underfunding statistics you mentioned are truly astonishing.
- 17:07They're absolutely staggering. The human rights pillar is by
- 17:10far the worst finance of the three main pillars.
- 17:12It receives less than 1%, let me repeat that, less than 1% of the
- 17:16UNS ordinary core budget. Less than 1%?
- 17:19What are the functional consequences of basically
- 17:21starving this pillar of funds like that?
- 17:24What does it mean in practice? Well, the consequences are
- 17:27severe and very practical. This chronic underfunding
- 17:30fundamentally limits the ability of the monitoring bodies, the
- 17:34treaty committees, the experts who review state reports and
- 17:36individual complaints to actually function effectively.
- 17:40The sources noted that these committees are literally
- 17:42canceling sessions because there isn't the budget to hold them,
- 17:46to pay for translation, for experts, travel for the basic
- 17:49functioning. And when sessions are cancelled,
- 17:51the UN simply can't process individual complaints that come
- 17:54in. It can't review state compliance
- 17:56reports in a timely manner. It can't fulfill its monitoring
- 18:00mandates. It directly degrades the
- 18:02accountability system that took decades to build.
- 18:04It grinds it to a halt. And this financial siege, this
- 18:08starvation, is compounded by what you call the calculated
- 18:11geopolitical attack, primarily from states that prioritize
- 18:14national control over international scrutiny.
- 18:17Absolutely. The human rights space
- 18:19unfortunately has become a major geopolitical battleground and
- 18:23it's strongly influenced now by authoritarian states.
- 18:26Particularly Russia and China are often mentioned, but others
- 18:29too. Their strategy seems to be to
- 18:31fundamentally shift the bounds away from the protection of
- 18:34individual rights and back towards the primacy of state
- 18:37sovereignty and national interests.
- 18:40They argue essentially that human rights issues should be
- 18:42solved internally or maybe discussed diplomatically between
- 18:45states, but certainly not subject to independent
- 18:48international monitoring or judgment.
- 18:50This push represents a real risk of regression then doesn't it?
- 18:53Undoing these hard won global norms about universal rights?
- 18:57How are these actors attempting to undermine the system
- 18:59practically in the day-to-day work of the UN?
- 19:02They attempt to do this in several ways.
- 19:04One is by trying to change the specific language used in UN
- 19:07resolutions, watering down commitments, inserting caveats
- 19:11about national context or non interference.
- 19:13They emphasize concepts like non interference and state autonomy
- 19:16very heavily. They also tend to focus heavily
- 19:19on economic and social rights, which are important of course,
- 19:21but often harder to universally measure and enforce, while
- 19:25simultaneously downplaying or actively criticizing civil and
- 19:28political rights like freedom of speech or assembly.
- 19:31They are essentially trying to dismantle, or at least
- 19:34significantly weaken, the monitoring and independent
- 19:38complaint mechanisms that challenge state power and hold
- 19:40governments accountable to international standards.
- 19:43O In this context, the responsive nations that are
- 19:45still committed to Liberal Democratic values and universal
- 19:48rights becomes absolutely crucial.
- 19:50What specific actions are countries like Denmark and their
- 19:53allies taking to try and defend this pillar under attack?
- 19:56Well, they're essentially forming defensive alliances,
- 19:59working closely with like minded states, other EU members, Nordic
- 20:02countries, Canada, others across different regions to defend
- 20:06these normative standards that have been built up.
- 20:09They put particular focus on defending the rights of
- 20:11vulnerable groups who are often the first targets when rights
- 20:14regress. So women and girls, LGBT plus
- 20:17persons, ethnic and religious minorities groups that are
- 20:20seeing significant rights rollbacks globally right now for
- 20:23these countries. The rights based approach to
- 20:25development and security is seen as non negotiable fundamental,
- 20:29so they are fighting hard diplomatically to ensure that
- 20:32those monitoring bodies, the committee is getting less than
- 20:351% of the budget, remember remain relevant, funded enough
- 20:38to continue their essential work and that their independence is
- 20:41protected. OK, this connects to the broader
- 20:44dynamics. Let's look at that now,
- 20:45especially the well, the overwhelming role of the United
- 20:48States and EU NS fate. The historical volatility of the
- 20:52US posture is really striking, isn't it?
- 20:54It absolutely dictates the environment, or at least heavily
- 20:56influences it. the US approach has swung wildly over the
- 21:00decades. You go from the visionary ideals
- 21:03of Franklin D Roosevelt, who was a key architect that died just
- 21:06before the founding conference, to the kind of Cold War
- 21:09pragmatism of JFK, who you mentioned earlier, right through
- 21:12to the outright skepticism, even hostility, we saw under the
- 21:15Trump administration. There was that anecdote
- 21:18mentioned in one source about Trump being apparently
- 21:20nonplussed by a broken escalator at the UN General Assembly.
- 21:23While it seems trivial, it kind of perfectly illustrates the
- 21:26larger point the sources make. The shift in US posture isn't
- 21:30just about policy changes. It can reflect A deeper, almost
- 21:33emotional, disengagement from the fundamental idea, the
- 21:36infrastructure, of global governance itself.
- 21:39Right. And that sentiment that maybe
- 21:41multilateralism is either purely transactional or maybe even an
- 21:44impediment to national interests that translated into concrete
- 21:47actions like defunding certain agencies and withdrawing from
- 21:50agreements or bodies. So what happens globally when
- 21:53the traditional anchor of the system, the US, steps back or
- 21:57seems ambivalent? Well, it creates a vacuum,
- 21:59especially in an already fragmenting, increasingly
- 22:02multipolar world. Other powers China, Russia, but
- 22:06also an emerging class of significant regional powers like
- 22:09India, Brazil, South Africa, Turkey, and influential middle
- 22:12powers. They're actively filling that
- 22:14space they have to China, for instance, has dramatically
- 22:18increased its financial contributions to some UN
- 22:20agencies and peacekeeping efforts in recent years, partly
- 22:23filling gaps but also naturally seeking to assert its own policy
- 22:26priorities and gain influence within the system.
- 22:29The world isn't necessarily waiting for Washington to lead
- 22:31anymore. It's adapting, sometimes
- 22:33reforming around US absence or perceived unreliability.
- 22:37And that dynamic seems clearly reflected in the increased
- 22:39weight, or at least the increased activity of the UN
- 22:42General Assembly, the UNGA. It seems to be stepping up where
- 22:45the Security Council fails. Absolutely.
- 22:47The widespread frustration globally over the paralyzed
- 22:51Security Council has definitely forced the UNGA to assume a far
- 22:54larger role in peace and security debates than perhaps
- 22:57originally envisioned. We've seen the UNGA pass
- 23:00powerful symbolic resolutions on major flashpoints like Ukraine
- 23:04and Gaza, where the P5 are completely deadlocked by vetoes.
- 23:08And crucially, the UNGA has implemented A mechanism now to
- 23:11hold P5 members accountable, at least politically, for their use
- 23:14of the veto. They have to come and explain
- 23:16their veto to the broader membership.
- 23:17This gives the entire UN membership, all 193 states, a
- 23:21louder, more formalized voice when the major powers are in
- 23:24gridlock. It's a significant procedural
- 23:26shift. OK, so despite all this evidence
- 23:28we've discussed the political paralysis, the financial siege,
- 23:31the geopolitical attacks on human rights and scarity, the
- 23:34sources still seem to maintain that the UN is indispensable.
- 23:37Why is that? Is it simply because there's no
- 23:39other viable option? Is that the main argument?
- 23:42That's a huge part of it, yes. As one source articulated it,
- 23:45the UN remains the only universal forum, the only place
- 23:49where literally all major powers, minor powers, emerging
- 23:52regional players, everybody meets regularly to discuss
- 23:55shared global problems. That space for dialogue, even
- 23:59when it's contentious, even when it's frustrating and slow, it
- 24:02holds intrinsic value because it provides A baseline minimum for
- 24:05global interaction and diplomacy, a place to talk even
- 24:08when you disagree fiercely. And when you consider that the
- 24:11vast majority of international law and cooperation is actually
- 24:14based on the UN system, everything from international
- 24:17trade rules, maritime law, aviation standards, refugee law,
- 24:21its legitimacy and its physical space are often required even
- 24:24for ad hoc global action or coordination outside its formal
- 24:27structures. OK, indispensable but flawed.
- 24:30Let's look toward the future in this reform agenda.
- 24:32Secretary General Antonio Guterres launched the UN80
- 24:34initiative back in 2025, marking the 80th anniversary.
- 24:38What are the comprehensive goals of this UN80 initiative?
- 24:40What's it trying to achieve? UN80 is intended as a massive
- 24:44undertaking. Yeah, it aims for pretty
- 24:46comprehensive structural reform, better economic management and
- 24:50significant efficiency gains. The core idea is streamlining
- 24:54internal processes, trying to improve delivery on the ground,
- 24:58and maybe even relocating certain administrative functions
- 25:00to what they call low cost locations.
- 25:03Nairobi is often mentioned as an example of a major UN hub
- 25:07outside the West to reduce overheads and optimize the use
- 25:10of taxpayer money globally. Gutierrez is basically arguing
- 25:13that these kinds of deep reforms are absolutely necessary for the
- 25:16organization's survival and its ability to deliver better
- 25:19results in the 21st century. But as we discussed earlier with
- 25:22A1 UN idea, reform always runs that risk, doesn't it?
- 25:25Becoming a political battle over where the cuts fall and who
- 25:27benefits. That is the absolute central
- 25:30political struggle here. The sources really stressed that
- 25:33UN80 must avoid being perceived merely as a donor driven savings
- 25:36exercise that would be fatal to its legitimacy.
- 25:40If the reforms are seen to primarily focus on slashing
- 25:43development and human rights budgets while maybe maintaining
- 25:46or even increasing security expenditures, it risks deeply
- 25:49alienating the global S the majority of UN members.
- 25:53So the reform must maintain a holistic vision.
- 25:56It needs to be about defining which tasks the UN should
- 25:59prioritize and handle effectively in the coming
- 26:01decades, and ensuring that all three pillars, peace, security,
- 26:05development and human rights, are seen as equally important,
- 26:07prioritized, and adequately funded, not just picking winners
- 26:10and losers based on donor preferences.
- 26:12And perhaps the most talked about, maybe the most difficult
- 26:15structural flaw, is the Security Council's composition itself.
- 26:18Why is Security Council reform always such an acute priority in
- 26:21these discussions? It boils down fundamentally to a
- 26:24legitimacy problem. A massive 1.
- 26:26The UNSC, with its five permanent members and their veto
- 26:29power, reflects the global power structure of 1945, not the world
- 26:33of today. It's undeniable.
- 26:35The sources consistently highlight that it's outdated
- 26:38composition, which excludes permanent seats for major global
- 26:41regions like Africa and Latin America, and for huge global
- 26:45economic and demographic giants like India, Brazil, Germany,
- 26:48Japan. It just undermines its authority
- 26:50and its representativeness. So for nations like Denmark
- 26:53currently serving on the Council, pushing for
- 26:55modernization, even if progress is incredibly slow, is a crucial
- 26:59priority because the lack of representation prevents the
- 27:02Council from truly reflecting global realities, making its
- 27:05decisions inherently vulnerable to criticism and harder to
- 27:08implement. Effective.
- 27:09You also need to talk about the generational leadership change
- 27:11that's coming up relatively soon, the selection process for
- 27:14the new secretary general who will replace Guterres in 2026.
- 27:18What are the key elements needed for this crucial selection
- 27:20process? What are countries looking for?
- 27:22Well, firstly, the UN desperately needs a strong,
- 27:25independent and genuinely merit based leader, someone with
- 27:29vision and courage. But the selection process itself
- 27:32is also vital. Denmark and other reform minded
- 27:35states are working quite hard, apparently, to maintain and even
- 27:38expand the transparency that was established in the 2015, 2016
- 27:42process. That process, which was
- 27:44championed by Majin's Lick it Off when he was President of the
- 27:47General Assembly, was seen as a big step forward.
- 27:50Historically, the SG selection often happened in while a dark
- 27:53backroom, sometimes involving pretty much only the P5 making a
- 27:57deal. The current push is to make the
- 27:59process much more open, involving public hearings for
- 28:01candidates, making their qualifications and visions
- 28:04transparent to all Member States, and preventing A
- 28:07reversion to those opaque power politics of the past, keeping it
- 28:10out in the light. And a major priority within that
- 28:12process, I assume, is finally addressing the historical gender
- 28:15imbalance at the very top. Absolutely.
- 28:17It's stark. Every single secretary general
- 28:19in the UN's nearly 80 year history has been a man.
- 28:23So yes, Denmark and many other countries are actively
- 28:25encouraging member states to put forward qualified female
- 28:28candidates this time around, recognizing that diversity and
- 28:32leadership isn't just symbolic, it's necessary for legitimacy
- 28:35and for bringing varied perspectives and experiences to
- 28:38global problem solving. It's long overdue.
- 28:41Let's tell just a bit more into Denmark specific thematic
- 28:44priorities within the UN system, as it often seems to champion
- 28:47themes that other middle powers then rally around.
- 28:50Beyond the big structural reforms, what specific areas are
- 28:53they focusing on, say during the 80th General Assembly session?
- 28:56Well, their thematic focus really seems to center on the
- 28:58interconnectedness of conflict development and rights.
- 29:01They don't see them in silos. So they are celebrating and
- 29:04pushing hard for the continued advancement of the Women Peace
- 29:07and Security WPS agenda that's marking the 25th anniversary of
- 29:11the landmark Resolution 1325. Also the Youth Peace and
- 29:16Security YPS agenda, which is hitting its 10th anniversary,
- 29:19getting young people more involved in peace processes.
- 29:22And crucially, as you might expect from a Nordic country,
- 29:25they're also very strong advocates for what's called
- 29:27climate peace and security, linking climate change to
- 29:31conflict. Their argument, which is
- 29:33definitely gaining traction among many member states now, is
- 29:36that climate change is a threat multiplier or conflict
- 29:39multiplier. The effects of climate change,
- 29:41things like resource scarcity, droughts, floods, population
- 29:44displacement, or directly impacting existing conflicts and
- 29:47potentially sparking new ones. Therefore, they argue, these
- 29:50security implications must be discussed seriously in the
- 29:52Security Council, not just siloed away as a purely
- 29:55environmental or development issue handled elsewhere.
- 29:58And underpinning all of this is a commitment to maintaining the
- 30:01rule of law internationally. Yes, absolutely.
- 30:04Active support for the international courts, you know,
- 30:06the International Court of Justice, ICJ, the International
- 30:10Criminal Court, ICC is paramount for countries like Denmark.
- 30:14They are actively supporting the principle of accountability for
- 30:16the worst international crimes. This includes the responsibility
- 30:19to protect or R2P principle. We should probably define R2P
- 30:24clearly here for listeners. It's a global political
- 30:26commitment established back in 2005 based on the idea that
- 30:30sovereignty isn't just a right or a privilege, it's also a
- 30:32responsibility. The core idea is that if a state
- 30:35fails massively to protect its own citizens from mass
- 30:38atrocities, genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing, crimes
- 30:41against humanity, then the international community has the
- 30:44responsibility to step in collectively, using diplomatic
- 30:48means first, but potentially even forcefully as a last resort
- 30:51through the Security Council. Now, this is a highly contested
- 30:54concept, especially by states wary of intervention.
- 30:57So strong support for RTP is actually a key differentiator
- 31:00for nations committed to interventionism, albeit
- 31:02selectively when necessary to prevent event mass atrocities.
- 31:05And Denmark also has a unique focus stemming from its status
- 31:08as a major global player in trade and particularly shipping.
- 31:12Right. That's right.
- 31:13As one of the world's leading shipping nations, maritime
- 31:15security is a constant practical focus for them.
- 31:18This includes vigorously upholding UN Clio rests, the UN
- 31:22Convention on the Law of the Sea, which is really the bedrock
- 31:26of global maritime governance, the Constitution for the Oceans.
- 31:30So they're focused not only on addressing current threats like
- 31:32piracy or attacks on shipping, but also importantly, on
- 31:35addressing the root causes of insecurity on land, things like
- 31:38poverty, lack of opportunity, ongoing conflicts which often
- 31:42fuel maritime threats like piracy in the 1st place.
- 31:45It's connecting the land and sea issues.
- 31:47Now for a smaller state like Denmark to have this level of
- 31:50influence across so many areas, it clearly relies heavily on
- 31:53strategic alliances rather than sheer military or economic power
- 31:57alone. That is the absolute definition
- 31:59of smart multilateralism for middle powers.
- 32:01Yeah. They have to maximize their
- 32:03influence by operating effectively within various
- 32:05blocks and groups. So leveraging the collective
- 32:08weight of the EU negotiating position where possible,
- 32:11coordinating closely with their Nordic and Baltic cooperation
- 32:13partners who often share similar values, and building these cross
- 32:16regional alliances, often referred to informally as groups
- 32:20of friends on specific issues like accountability or climate
- 32:23security or gender equality. They use the consistency of
- 32:27their policy, like reliably meeting that 1.7% aid target we
- 32:31mentioned, to gain credibility and sometimes act as a bridge
- 32:34between the global North and the global S.
- 32:37They argue, quite persuasively I think, that a rules based
- 32:40cooperative international order, even a flawed 1, is absolutely
- 32:43essential for small states to thrive, protect their interests
- 32:45and have their voices heard. We've talked a lot about
- 32:47paralysis, particularly in the Security Council, but let's just
- 32:50confirm the instances where the UN system, Despite that deadlock
- 32:54at the top, still manages to function in major conflict
- 32:57zones. Take the really complex
- 32:59situations we see in Gaza or Ukraine, where the Security
- 33:02Council is clearly paralyzed by P5 vetoes or the threat of them.
- 33:06What role does the UN still managed to carve out on the
- 33:08ground? Right.
- 33:09In these very high profile conflicts, even if the Security
- 33:12Council is totally unable to authorize peace enforcement or
- 33:15impose binding resolutions, the broader UN system still plays a
- 33:18massive, often essential role in at least two key ways, providing
- 33:22legitimacy and coordinating the humanitarian response.
- 33:26The General Assembly often takes over the political debate, as we
- 33:28mentioned, passing resolutions that demonstrate global
- 33:31consensus and politically isolate the vetoing powers that
- 33:35has normative weight. And crucially, on the ground,
- 33:37even if ceasefires are brokered by other actors outside the UN
- 33:40framework, the legitimacy of a Security Council resolution, or
- 33:44at least UN coordination is often still required or
- 33:46preferred to provide a mandate for international stabilization
- 33:49forces or more commonly, for large scale humanitarian aid
- 33:53distribution. The UN system, it's agencies
- 33:56like WFPUNHCROCO, acts as the undisputed neutral pipeline for
- 34:01humanitarian aid delivery. And most major crises, whether
- 34:04in Gaza or Ukraine or elsewhere, they often operate in areas
- 34:07where no single nation could operate with the same perceived
- 34:09neutrality or reach. So even for the major powers
- 34:12that might express skepticism about the UN politically, it's
- 34:15practical authority and coordination role are still
- 34:18often the gold standard for global action on the ground.
- 34:21It often remains the only globally accepted standard
- 34:24available. Yeah, look at the situation in
- 34:26Sudan, which according to the sources, is currently the
- 34:29world's largest and arguably most tragic ongoing military
- 34:33humanitarian catastrophe, even if it doesn't always dominate
- 34:36the headlines. While the Security Council
- 34:39struggles to find unity, the UN system, the humanitarian
- 34:42agencies, the Secretary General's envoys, is constantly
- 34:45engaged on the ground attempting to negotiate access for aid,
- 34:49secure humanitarian corridors, and maintain at least a baseline
- 34:52presence and reporting function. Even without a strong SC mandate
- 34:56for intervention, the structure, however flawed, is still often
- 35:00indispensable for just minimum maintenance of global order and
- 35:02humanitarian principles in these catastrophic situations.
- 35:05Conversely, in conflicts where the great power interests are
- 35:08perhaps less directly opposed, or where there's some consensus
- 35:11on avoiding total chaos, we do see the Council can still
- 35:14function more effectively. Correct.
- 35:16You mentioned South Sudan earlier.
- 35:17Yes, exactly. South Sudan is a reasonable
- 35:20recent example where the P5, despite their broader global
- 35:23disagreements, found enough relative unity or at least lack
- 35:27of direct opposition regarding the basic need to prevent a full
- 35:30national collapse back into all out civil war.
- 35:33In those cases, the Council can still be effective, maybe
- 35:36backing regional peace efforts led by the AU or IGAD, setting
- 35:40clear expectations for governance reform, imposing
- 35:43targeted sanctions, and maintaining A mandate for a
- 35:46peacekeeping mission, UNMISS in this case, that is broadly
- 35:49supported, even if its implementation faces huge
- 35:52challenges. It just reminds us that the
- 35:54machinery itself, the potential for action, is often sound.
- 35:57It's the political will, the unity among the key members,
- 36:00that is the critical variable. Let's just return briefly to the
- 36:03human rights pillar for our final synthesis because it feels
- 36:06so critical. You mentioned this regression,
- 36:09this pushback towards state sovereignty over individual
- 36:11rights. Is there a strong enough counter
- 36:13demand from global civil society, from people around the
- 36:16world, to push back against that?
- 36:18Or is the political tide controlled by states simply too
- 36:22strong right now? That's a really important
- 36:24question. The sources suggest there is a
- 36:26very strong popular demand for individual rights globally.
- 36:30Ordinary people are generally not indifferent torture or
- 36:33arbitrary detention or seeing their governments become
- 36:35abusive. You see protests, you see Ng OS
- 36:38working tirelessly. However, the current political
- 36:41environment within the UN bodies themselves, exacerbated by that
- 36:44chronic lack of funding for the human rights mechanisms,
- 36:47definitely favors the states that wish to prioritize non
- 36:50interference and state sovereignty above all else.
- 36:53They are successfully, in many forms, weaponizing the concept
- 36:57of non interference to block scrutiny.
- 36:59Which means that the focused, persistent actions of states
- 37:02like Denmark and their allies who insist on defending and
- 37:06promoting these universal standards are almost existential
- 37:10for the pillar survival right now.
- 37:11Precisely. They're essentially fighting an
- 37:14active erosion campaign, working within their alliances to ensure
- 37:18that the human rights system, which let's just remind
- 37:20ourselves again, receives less than 1% of EU NS ordinary
- 37:24budget, doesn't completely crumble due to this combination
- 37:27of calculated underfunding and sustained political attack from
- 37:30powerful states. Because if this pillar
- 37:33fundamentally fails, if the idea of universal standards and
- 37:36international accountability collapses, it sets a dangerous
- 37:39global precedent. It risks allowing states to
- 37:42retreat entirely into unaccountable self-interest,
- 37:45jeopardizing the rights and safety of individuals
- 37:47everywhere. OK, we've established that the
- 37:49UN is essential, yet deeply troubled, but also undergoing
- 37:52this critical reform push with UN80 to conclude our deep dive,
- 37:56how do we synthesize the path forward?
- 37:59Where does the hope in that original phrase truly lie in
- 38:022025 and beyond? I think the final synthesis from
- 38:04the source is pretty clear. The UN is indispensable, warts
- 38:08and all. We simply have no viable
- 38:10alternative global forum for tackling shared complex problems
- 38:14that cross borders. Climate change, pandemics,
- 38:18cross-border conflict, financial stability.
- 38:20Its current crisis is very much a direct reflection of the
- 38:23broader global crisis of political will and rising
- 38:25nationalism. The UN reflects the world.
- 38:28It doesn't create it. The hope therefore rests not
- 38:32necessarily with the five permanent members of the
- 38:34Security Council, who are often deadlocked, but perhaps more
- 38:37with the vast majority of other member states, the global S
- 38:40nations, the influential middle powers, the alliances of like
- 38:44minded states across regions, the large group that still
- 38:47fundamentally wants to maintain and strengthen the rules based
- 38:50international order because they benefit from its stability and
- 38:53predictability. So the stability may be the hope
- 38:56comes from acknowledging that yes, institutionalized
- 38:58cooperation is slow, it's formal, can be incredibly
- 39:00tedious and frustrating, but it offers a kind of predictability
- 39:04in a framework for dialogue that informal, purely self interested
- 39:07alliances can never really match long term.
- 39:09Absolutely. That's the core argument for its
- 39:12endurance. The future of the UN ultimately
- 39:14depends on the here insistence of its member states.
- 39:17It's not guaranteed. It depends on enough countries
- 39:20actively supporting it, fully funding it, which is a big if,
- 39:24continually pushing for reforms to make it more effective and
- 39:26representative, and critically defending its normative
- 39:30standards, especially on human rights.
- 39:32Even when under immense geopolitical pressure, if enough
- 39:35nations consistently insist that the UN must work and act
- 39:38accordingly, it will likely endure, adapt, and continue to
- 39:41play a vital role. It really only fails completely
- 39:44when its members allow it to fail.
- 39:46That is a critical take away, isn't it?
- 39:48The future of the UN isn't some pre written destiny.
- 39:50It's being actively shaped right now by the political choices and
- 39:54the financial commitments, or lack thereof, of its members
- 39:57today. This has been an incredibly
- 39:59insightful deep dive into this really complex and vital
- 40:02question of whether the UN is still the world's best last
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