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A Special IU Report with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell: Portal Success (2.234.3) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are listening to a special edition of the IU report with Grant Shows and My Cutsle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have the IU report just a couple of days ago, but there's been so much news about the basketball team since then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We felt like a special was an order.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And here it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back, IU fans, this special edition of the IU report tonight with
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[SPEAKER_00]: Grant Shouts and my cuddle Greg Ming out here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're having a good time here before this show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And guys, that's what he last sucked on the actual eye year before on, what was it Monday?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was Monday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just some big news coming out of Bloomington.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the end, of course, then we kind of expected this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had alluded to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a really good inkling at what happened that Aiden Cheryl would commit from Alabama to come to Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... submit you get to all you who's seven two coming over from southern methodist played there for the mustangs last year helped him get to the instead of a return of it also done on the pronunciation thank you i've been i've been practicing i was going to say out of those two how do you miss pronounced shrill yeah i know you nailed you nailed the big turk that i'm not even going to try but you you miss pronounced the alabama
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and, and that's the thing is like, the last guy that committed is like the easiest name ever, Bryce Winsy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin's not doing over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the question here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's easy enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Dorn was pretty easy, but I was a big Dorn addict and I'm sad to see him get.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Dorn Hub has, has moved on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't know this before we start really breaking down the three new guys, Mike, but yesterday, Tate and Con are way gotten the transfer portal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know he had any eligibility left.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he was graduating.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has a jukeo year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's trying the Pavia argument of the only played three years of division one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he should get another year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He knows he's not going to get paid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: anywhere that doesn't require a passport next year, so he's trying to cash in one more paycheck.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if he pulls it off, good on him, I hope it's somewhere in the sunbell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't have to watch that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and my thinking is he could go back to the sunbell, but the the one name I've heard circulating with him is the.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Domino's on 12th in Walnut and Bloomington is really interested in that kid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So He's apparently quite fond of kill Royce from a year or so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they have another two If they've got any kind of wreck league team, he might be shooting up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh him and Umar Bala, man That'd be a nice pick and roll.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The most surprising thing about Umar Bala was he apparently like upstairs And that guy doesn't look like he ever took the stairs anywhere so
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure they've got an elevator as I said they're had to be like a and it would need to be afraid elevator by the time my guy was done man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Luckily those days are in the past Mike and I don't have to worry about umar ballo anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't think of a guy that I hated more that played for Indian and basketball than umar fricking ballo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's there's been a few but we won't we it's about looking forward and it's about this week
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[SPEAKER_02]: a team that nobody cared about last year, everybody hated watching, even their fan base, everybody laughed at and they are among the talk of college basketball, truly Donovan, these, these, I am these accounts that you read on, on the internet, they're like, damn, how much money you all got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got I didn't see it coming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to lie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they'd get a class.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it would be something that we'd be Not overwhelmed or underwhelmed by.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought yeah, we'll be perfectlywhelmed by this class, but I'm blown away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did not see this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm I'm
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[SPEAKER_02]: you all know I was not Mr. buying stock and dare and to freeze.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just like he's got a lot to prove right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Him and the guys he's put on his coaching staff and Ryan Carr the GM are at least on paper.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're they're proving it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of what you'd better than weld.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a step in the right direction, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I was prepared to be perfectly weld.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that this kind of came out of nowhere because it took a minute to to get going like Indiana didn't really get its first commitment out of the portal until earlier this week and while everybody else is, you know, diving head first into it when it opened up right after the national championship game on the Tuesday after it took a minute to get going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We certainly saw the Cheryl guy coming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we all saw Burton coming from a mile away and in the gigatolute coming and I certainly didn't see Bryce Lindsey Kevin and I kind of forgot in the impact Bryce Lindsey had had on Villanova until you made mention in our text through Ed Mike that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 25 in Villanova is the NCAA tournament game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: here this past march he was one of their better players shot almost 40% from three average twelve a game a little bit of a diamond in the rough coming over here to i u and you talk about the money that indiana has it's almost like it's the unlimited money printing factory there in bloomington
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[SPEAKER_00]: they're just spitting cash out out of out of nowhere to these guys and people sit back and especially with the success you've seen in football where they've been able to up-signate salary you're sitting back and everybody's going, where's the Indiana getting on this money?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know they had all this money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well they do and now they've got a GM like you said with Ryan car that knows how to kind of manage that and knows who to look for out of the portal because
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's one of those things for Indiana where last year, they tried to put together and I think we talked about this year at night too, but they tried to put together almost a mid-major all star team from last year and then sprinkle in Tucker de Vries who had played all but like seven or eight games of power, five baths while West Virginia and then yet Sam Alexis who was on a national championship team not really played on a national championship
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they they have a huge opportunity here now that you're adding guys that have played at the power five level have played in these big conferences you got guys coming in from the ACC mostly from the ACC and now the big east and Your certain a kind of form a team here and put a team together that can hopefully produce in the big 10 and compete in the big 10 because
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they looked at the blueprint and the approach they had this past season and it's like, well, at times it kind of worked out the way we had our roster with the kind of the bid major all star team, but that's just not good we get enough we have to be more consistent and hopefully with this new roster they are more consistent and starting to kind of shape up that way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a team that already kind of looks like they're going seven or eight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and there's still opportunities to add to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not that the roster is finalized.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you look back to the most recent time, or seem like Indiana really went big in the portal and try to put a team together, we've talked about who they spent their money on and the team that they put together, you go back to Woodson's last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that team was ranked going in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a top 20 team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They put this big portal class together,
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[SPEAKER_02]: the money that they spent, it didn't really make sense with the roster that they had.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You had Malik Renew, you had a pretty good big man that was a back to the basket, worked out of the post, then you go probably spend more money on your than anybody on your team to add value.
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[SPEAKER_02]: While the sudden you've got two back to the basket, big men who were just kind of just
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no penetration game, and then they didn't really add shooters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They added Miles Rice, who was supposed to be this revelation coming out of Washington State.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was a highly sought after packed 12 newcomer of the year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But let's face it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The competition in the packed 12 wasn't stellar and he comes and he's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I think they expected more from them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cain and Carlisle, another Pac-12 guy, came from Stanford.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a shooting guard that didn't shoot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was more of a, seemed like more of a guy who wanted to put the ball in the floor and attack the basketball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We just talked about, you had a couple statues in the middle that you couldn't really, then you've got Leo and Galaway.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We know what they were as players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This year it actually looks, you can look at this team and put a line up together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a line up that's gonna make sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got a point guard, Marcus Burton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got a big man to me, the Turk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got a power forward in Cheryl, who's not necessarily a back to the basket type guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can step out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a 30, greater than 30% three point shooter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He can play outside, but he's also got the ability
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[SPEAKER_02]: perimeter based offensive guy who is absolutely just a stiff in the middle and just a freight of contact he can do that and he will block shots when he's in the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you've got wings and guards that are kind of interchangeable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe that the
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[SPEAKER_02]: the kid from Villanova will probably start at the two because he's probably the most accomplished shooter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's played it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Texas A&M, then he went to James Madison, played in the Big East last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you'll probably see him start, but then you've got a former McDonald's All-American adherence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Harris, who was lost in the shuffle at Duke, but has good film.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see how it translates if he gets more minutes or you have Jade and Moose
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[SPEAKER_02]: who's the type of athlete that Indiana has it out on the wing in a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you actually have a line up now, it looks like an actual basketball team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, and it's all guys coming from the ACC, the big East, the SEC, these guys have played big competition before and put up numbers in big competition before and that's not something we saw last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I was about to say that,
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[SPEAKER_00]: even at the team two years ago, it didn't seem like there was a lineup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even this past year, I thought they're could have been pieces there to make a lineup, but they're just weren't that it seemed like Indiana had a true primary point guard that could space the floor and kind of be the floor general for this team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they didn't have that this past year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, and you mentioned now where you do have that like what Marcus Burton is there to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's there to kind of be the quarterback at the offense a
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[SPEAKER_00]: lends he's out there to be your two guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're kind of your combo guard can shoot the three and ain't can slash and get to the rim.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, just basically to piggyback off of you there where, you know, you get to Lou is kind of your back to the basketball guy that they've been lacking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Reed Bailey wasn't that guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate to say it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sam Alexis probably could have been that guy last year, but just wasn't
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[SPEAKER_00]: wasn't big enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was under size that like six eight there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that Indiana has a true post presence with cement, you get toleau, I like their chances.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the old thing here, Mike, where when my dad was at Manchester, and he's talking to Dick Huntsaker, who was the coach and and he said to him, he's like, Dick, you guys need a big guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you had a big guy, I think you could win more games and
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of this kind of stuff, and Han Seeker looked at him and goes, no, guards win championship, guards win championship, and he is a hundred percent right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Think of all the good teams out there that
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[SPEAKER_00]: that of one champion, just because they had really good guards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Michigan had really good guards this past year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind when they've won had really good guards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even in the NBA, you know, all those years with when the Warriors won championship, they had good guards, curry, and Thompson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So many good teams have good guards out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if Indiana can have good
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[SPEAKER_00]: like Burton and Lindsey and then they're going to add out of the portal because they're going to get more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you got good guards and you can bear them with a good big man like you get to Lue and maybe try and find another backup big guy for you know 10 to 12 minutes a game off the bench then thank you could be in good shape here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like how this roster's coming together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you talk about guard guards guards guards that's great, but every one of the teams in the final four had a common denominator that Indiana did not have last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not putting in the end a final four, please don't take this as, oh, those idiot things in the end is fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've still got a lot to prove, but all those teams, what did they have?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Size.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a day, Mara, more as Johnson, Michigan, co-opete, and a lot of guys whose names I can't pronounce, were at Arizona, we've talked a lot about Illinois, just their whole team was giant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They started like six, five across the board.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you, Con, you've got Terrace Reed in the middle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And those you, Con teams, the one back to back titles, they had Clingon and Purdue is that ED through the... Sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've got to have, I'm not necessarily saying you have to have
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[SPEAKER_02]: creative genetic freak 7-4 monster every year, but you're not going to win with a 6-8 center.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It looks great on paper and Sam Alexis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see Sam Alexis on this team because I think he could play the role that he was meant to play this year and be that energy guy who could block shots and be a Pogo stick off the bench.
14:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love for one more year of Sam Alexis with this group that we have right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, that's not a reality, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: you are going to win in the big ten with him being your best big man and and he was my favorite guy on last year's team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed that kid as much as anybody but he was just limited as to what he could add.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He shot a great percentage from the floor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He played hard every game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He rarely if ever disappointed you but he was just outmatched physically by guys that he had to face and it wore down him and the whole team as the season wore on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike, I know this is your first kind of off season here in the IU report that last year when it was being dragged during the IU report, we were going to talk like scheduling news and all.
15:28
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a big one coming out here that around thanksgiving Indiana is going to be hosting all-in-grain at Assembly Hall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is a big deal and I did want to pass that along.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that that I mean that really means a lot to
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[SPEAKER_00]: getting the old damn dock, it's pulled together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the one complaint that I think is justifiable when you hear a grumpy IU fan talk, because Indiana has three games scheduled that we know of next year.
16:00
[SPEAKER_02]: You just to mention the bowling green game at assembly hall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, guess what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna play those games in the non-conference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They play Kentucky and Syracuse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Guess where those games are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Neutral sites.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Indianapolis, what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Syracuse came out a couple of weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That game is going to be played on a Monday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oddly enough, at Gainbridge Fieldhouse, very early in the season, and then Kentucky gets that traditional December Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that one's at Lucas oil.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that was part of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I thought that was part of the agreement that they came to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: when they made that because there's still three games left in that series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's calcined it and then jetted which was the most predictable thing in the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But there was no way he was going to be there for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was never coming back to assembly hall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could tell you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what's hilarious is that him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That calipary and woods and got that series together and neither of them were ever going to go to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Neither one of them coach the game and the series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they knew it, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what's hilarious is they knew it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Indian fans are not happy about the games they're getting at assembly hall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And rightfully so, in my opinion, last year, I went to it, it was the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, maybe the Wednesday before they played Kansas State.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was their big marquee, non-conference game last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They played at Kentucky, they played Louisville and Indianapolis, they played market in Chicago,
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just not giving fans games at assembly hall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Purdue played Alabama a couple of years ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They played Iowa State last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, fans want to see these games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did go Woodson's third year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They played Kansas and that home in home.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was the second game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you were there for that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was at that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did make it to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was cool to see Kansas playing in Bloomington since, first time since the 90s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a really frustrating day, I remember.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a very frustrating day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Caroline has been in and out a couple times, but they don't see the ACC big 10 anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't really do the thing with the biggest anymore where they rotate games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So fans feel like they're missing out on it and I can't blame them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be pretty upset.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like you can't even throw them a bone and get like a Xavier or a Cincinnati or a Butler type game on the home court.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're giving them this right now we know of bowling green.
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[SPEAKER_02]: give him a big game, give him something from the non-con, get a home in home with somebody and give him a marquee matchup at the hall because the hall can get rockin' and that's just one of the great atmospheres in college basketball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And see, I remember the one the one year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: it was the loan year with Romeo where they played Marquette at home and they played Louisville at home and won both of those games with Archie.
19:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you remember the Louisville game, but I'd like to see them get a series like you said, like with Xavier.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They had the, I think they had the one year where they went over to Xavier and may have been Woodson's first or second year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They went over there and there was the hoodschaffino team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the second year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and they went over there and they won as a closed game or get a home and home with date and or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that'd be pretty cool to see eye you go over to date and play it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You do arena even on the road.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is frustrating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's honestly the game with Syracuse at the Game Bridge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't until you said it, I actually didn't know that was on a Monday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that would be a Saturday game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that that's on a Monday and a neutral site in Indianapolis, I think that's pretty pathetic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To an extent, understand they can tuck you one, because they will get to match up with Kentucky in 2020.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so far away for now,
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[SPEAKER_00]: they will get that Kentucky game in 2029 at IU, but just real frustrating that it's probably going to be one of those things where they could end up being like this situation with the Baylor exhibition last year with the third party comes in and controls in and take it prices go way up at all this and you can't even afford to get in the door.
20:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those things like the Louisville thing last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They played a bit game bridge and
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[SPEAKER_00]: tickets were ridiculous for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would just like to see them play meaningful games that assembly hall like you said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really curious because their games at Game Bridge have not drawn greatly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, granted, some of these games have been like Harvard and Miami Ohio games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was really curious to see what attendance at Game Bridge would have been.
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[SPEAKER_02]: if Indiana had not been playing at Lucas oil the same night for the Big Ten title game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So how many fans were there because they were already in Indianapolis?
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[SPEAKER_02]: People have gone to that game if it had just been a standalone game and there had been no football game that night I don't think so.
21:06
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a good turnout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was a good turnout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Louisville had a good crowd Yeah, I was there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree and I went to that before the football even knew there was going to be a football game I bought tickets for that, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a good turnout, Louisville had their crowd, but it was definitely a pro-I.E.
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[SPEAKER_02]: crowd, but I don't think it's because they were necessarily there to watch the basketball team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they just needed something to do before the football game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, it is a little pre-game, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Syracuse on a Monday night, and like the first Monday of the college basketball season early early, with the excitement that this team could come into next year with based on what the conversation we had earlier, maybe it's going to be better, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you look at some of those games like that Harvard game a few years ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You probably could have taken that over to the fairgrounds and maybe had a sell out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the enthusiasm for these games in Indianapolis has not been huge through the years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't understand, like you talked about the Baylor game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a great example.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody wanted to go to that thing and I know I was an exhibition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you could have played that assembly hall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: given people something to go watch because little like Kansas and an exhibition at home last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Purdue played at Kentucky and our exhibition last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not unprecedented to play a big name opponent in an exhibition game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it will withdraw fans because people want to see the teams that you're playing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody wanted to drive to Indianapolis on an NFL Sunday and watch and spend 75 to $100 to watch Baylor and Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_02]: play it at home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get some students in the gym.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and here in the next few weeks or so, not just Indiana, but you'll search seeing more teams that will release their knock-off for schedules and when IU releases theirs, it's like something tells me last year they released it, somewhat
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[SPEAKER_00]: somewhat early earlier than what they had in the past.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll be able to kind of break that down a little bit and react to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, you're guaranteed like the two games we talked about, Syracuse and Kentucky on neutral floors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The ball and green game will be around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe they said it'll be around thanksgiving time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then actually they will open the season with Bellarman at IU.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that maybe the first night of the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or one of the first two or three days of the season, they'll open with bellermin at home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So those are the four guaranteed right now and then in the big 10 schedule, be out before we know it, but in that knock conference will be here and don't be shocked if they add a couple more decent knock conference games either whether they're at home or on the road or maybe at a neutral place, only time will tell that we'll have it all for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I did read that the bucket game will likely decide the fate of the bowl in green game is the bucket game is moved to Friday night again, then the game will be Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a possibility that game is going to be the Friday after Thanksgiving, if the bucket game stays on Saturday, which tells me also Indian is not going anywhere Thanksgiving week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... which is disappointing because you see all these feast week events mat painters got a collection of you know the naysmith a november that he is is got a collection of surfboard trophies from all these little island invitations he's one through the years there's the flight we were looking for right looks at the right next to the shamer ox shoe doti one in chicago this year didn't get a final four but you know naysmith of november
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[SPEAKER_02]: As we know, one thing, whatever Indian a schedule is, it will not be a smartly put together is Matt Painter's schedule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It won't, and we will hear why from Matt Painter at some point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Matt Painter will tell us why his schedule was so perfectly put together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am really excited for him to tell us everything he knows about basketball and why we don't know shit about fuck.
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[SPEAKER_02]: which is in a 300-level course at the podium on how teams should schedule their basketball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See you soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say this though, as someone that has been in the media room with him, he answers questions really good, but he just loves the lecture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you know Mike funds fun fact he actually gave me a lecture on how they scheduled not conference games, I'll have to go back and find it and send it to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't know that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was after the Alabama game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a press pass and I went into the media arena after and I asked him and the press conference why they want to schedule teams like Alabama and he gave me a lecture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of forgot about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have been able to detect in the Matt Painter lecture probably saw the tweet or Jeff Goodman said a lot of good points here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, wasn't the Turk at character in the godfather?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know Rod Stewart had young Turks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be fun to see what happens here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Illinois is doing okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: big 10 still looks like it's going to be good, but Ohio states not getting the guys that they thought they were going to get.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tennessee is doing what Tennessee does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They just had smart guys to the roster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got Jalen Harrelson who we talked about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's interesting to see where these guys lie, and but in I.L.
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[SPEAKER_02]: has just it's been the ultimate leveling of the field because you can't just be Kentucky anymore and get a guy you still have to pay Kentucky always paid, but now they have to pay as much as anybody else and and they're not used to this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are their advantage is gone, isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The SEC's advantage is gone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This goes to football as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny to me now that you're hearing so much talk about how out of control in ILS.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's because the SEC was always paying more than everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They could hold all the talent and be the monster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now, oh my god, these rosters are getting out of control.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana's got a $40 million football roster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, bullshit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that they do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but Kurt Siggatti even said today that they don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So all of a sudden, hey, we're not able to pay more than anybody else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody else is paying just as much as us and all of a sudden, it's getting out of control.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And one last thing about out of control grant, we have, we
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for sharing the heartwarming story of Tom and Loupé is a at age 71, welcoming twins into the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Swake's Facebook completely fabricated AI, non-sensical story of the week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Grant shares it with me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tom is a new father again at age 71.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's why the way they've been in the portal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been a little preoccupied.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's amazing that him and guys like Sigmetti are still producing these kids at age like 64 and 71.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, credit to their wives, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know man, I mean, and look, look, I know that Manette, Sigmetti is a handsome woman, but like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: My guy gave her a lot of credit to be able to still pop out of get it, like 57 years old.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the best part about it is, is like we talked about it, you know, all have an uncle that shared the signetty baby story, somebody has an uncle in Michigan that's like, man, Tommy is ahead him another baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe you.
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