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This Unsolved Murder Case Is Horrifying... · The conspiracy

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Speaker 1: There's something deeply unsettling about silence, not just the absence
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Speaker 1: of sound, but the kind that hums with something wrong,
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Speaker 1: the kind that hangs in the air like a held breath.
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Speaker 1: That's the kind of silence neighbors began noticing from a
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Speaker 1: lonely little farmstead in Bavaria, where smoke stopped rising from
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Speaker 1: their chimney, where a child didn't show up for school,
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Speaker 1: where nobody answered the door anymore. And what investigators would
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Speaker 1: find days later behind that door, beneath the hay in
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Speaker 1: the barn, and under the sheets in the bedroom would
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Speaker 1: shake even the hardest men to their core, because this
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Speaker 1: wasn't just a murder. It was methodical, it was intimate,
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Speaker 1: and it was as if someone had been watching them
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Speaker 1: for weeks. And over one hundred years later, we still
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Speaker 1: don't know who did it, but what we do know
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Speaker 1: is how it happened. And this is a story of
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Speaker 1: hinter Kaifek, one of the most disturbing unsolved crimes in history. Crime, conspiracy, gults,
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Speaker 1: also because it is unsolved, and not only that, it
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Speaker 1: pretty much will never be solved because of how long
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Speaker 1: ago it was. But I find it extremely interesting, one
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Speaker 1: the early nineteen twenties, the hinter Kaifek farmstead stood in
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Speaker 1: lonely isolation amidst the woods in Bavaria, Germany. It was
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Speaker 1: located near the tiny hamlet of Grolberg, about seventy kilometers
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Speaker 1: north of Munich and half a mile behind hinter the
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Speaker 1: village of Kaifek, and this farmstead was home to Andrea Gruber,
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Speaker 1: who was sixty three years old and was the patriarch
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Speaker 1: and a seasoned farmer known for his gruff reclusive demeanor.
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Speaker 1: And living with him was his wife, Sezila Grueber, who
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Speaker 1: was seventy two and was a develoutly religious woman who
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Speaker 1: helped around the household, and their widowed only daughter, Victoria Gabriel,
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Speaker 1: who was thirty five years old, also resided at hinter
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Speaker 1: Kaifect with her two young children, Kaziliah Gabriel who was
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Speaker 1: seven and Joseph Gabriel, who was two. So Victoria's husband
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Speaker 1: Carl Gabriel had been killed in World War One in
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Speaker 1: nineteen fourteen, leaving her to raise her children on the
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Speaker 1: family farm. So heartbrate's heartbreaking. Had to think how many
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Speaker 1: how many women were widowed, especially during that time, and
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Speaker 1: had to raise their kids on their own. It's just heartbreaking,
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Speaker 1: and it just makes this entire story even more heartbreaking.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, rounding out the household was Maria Baumgardner, who
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Speaker 1: was forty four years old and was the maid who
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Speaker 1: arrived at hinter Kaifak on March thirty first, nineteen twenty
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Speaker 1: two to begin her first day of work. So despite
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Speaker 1: living in a tight knit rural community, the Gruper family
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Speaker 1: largely kept to themselves and had a reputation for secrecy
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Speaker 1: and scandal, and dark rumors would kind of swirl about
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Speaker 1: the family, and these rumors, combined with the farm's isolation,
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Speaker 1: cast an uneasy shadow over hinter Chifect even before the
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Speaker 1: events of that fateful night. So as March thirty first,
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Speaker 1: nineteen twenty two donned, none of the farm's six inhabitants
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Speaker 1: could have imagined it would be the last day of
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Speaker 1: their lives. Outwardly, the Groupers were a three generational farming
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Speaker 1: family living under one roof, but their domestic life was
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Speaker 1: far from ordinary. Victoria Gabriel, for example, widowed for several years,
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Speaker 1: was financially and emotionally dependent on her domineering father Andreas.
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Speaker 1: And Andreas Gruber had a history of abs and it
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Speaker 1: was actually documented in court that he had been essaying
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Speaker 1: his daughter, and in nineteen fifteen, both Andreas and Victoria
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Speaker 1: were convicted and jailed for incest. Victoria was too, which
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Speaker 1: is so far up as if she had an option,
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Speaker 1: is that she had a choice, But Andreas served a
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Speaker 1: year in prison while Victoria served one month, as if
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Speaker 1: that's any better. But despite this crime, Victoria returned to
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Speaker 1: live at hinter Kaifek, and the community's gossip about their
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Speaker 1: illicit relationship never fully died down. So the scandal isolated
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Speaker 1: the family socially, making neighbors wary and deepening the Gruber's reclusiveness.
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Speaker 1: And further complicating the family's dynamics was the question of
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Speaker 1: young Joseph's parentage, because Victoria's toddler son, Joseph, had been
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Speaker 1: born in nineteen nineteen, long after her husband's death, and
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Speaker 1: his father's identity was hotly debated, but Victoria had developed
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Speaker 1: a relationship with a neighbor whose name was Lorenz Schlittenbauer
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Speaker 1: after becoming a widow, and both she and Lorenz at
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Speaker 1: one point publicly acknowledged Joseph as their child, and Victoria
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Speaker 1: and Lorenz actually had announced plans to marry until Andreas
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Speaker 1: Gruber furiously opposed the match and drove Lorenz away. So
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Speaker 1: the debate is whether it is her father's child or
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Speaker 1: Lorenz's child, but they claimed that it is Lorenz's. But
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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine the hold that Andreas has on
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Speaker 1: Victoria and how horrible that must have felt. So the
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Speaker 1: engagement was broken off and Lorenz soon married another woman. However,
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Speaker 1: Lorenz's infant son from that marriage tragically died in nineteen
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Speaker 1: twenty one, not Joseph, but the son he had with
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Speaker 1: the other woman. But this would be an event that
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Speaker 1: would later be seen as potential fuel for resentment, so
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Speaker 1: keep that in mind. So with Lorenz out of the picture,
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Speaker 1: suspicion fell back on Andreas Kruber as possibly being Joseph's father,
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Speaker 1: and the idea that Joseph was the product of incests
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Speaker 1: between Victoria and Andreas was widely whispered in the village.
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Speaker 1: So this family secret, if true, added an even darker
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Speaker 1: tension to life at hinter Kaifek. So Victoria was torn
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Speaker 1: between protecting her children and appeasing her authoritarian father, and
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Speaker 1: andreas described as scrooge like and hot tempered, tightly controlled
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Speaker 1: the household's finances and decisions just a entire and the
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Speaker 1: elders that Celia, by contrast, was often seen as quiet,
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Speaker 1: religious woman who tried to keep peace in the family,
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Speaker 1: though it's unclear how much she knew or acknowledged about
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Speaker 1: the incestuous abuse that had happened. So in the eyes
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Speaker 1: of their neighbors, the Gruber Gabriel family was burdened with
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Speaker 1: shameful secrets. They were respected for their farming skill and
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Speaker 1: church attendance, though because Victoria was actually known for singing
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Speaker 1: in the church choir, yet they were also shunned for
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Speaker 1: their scandal. So this just fraught family dynamic, marked by
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Speaker 1: a forbidden relationships and conflict over Victoria's future, just set
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Speaker 1: the stage for a possible eruption, and investigators later theorized
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Speaker 1: that such tensions could provide a motive for violence, as
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Speaker 1: we will see, and that was whether from an insider
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Speaker 1: or someone close to the family. But it was against
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Speaker 1: this backdrop of dysfunction and whispered sins that a series
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Speaker 1: of strange events began to unfold at the hinter Kaifak farm.
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Speaker 1: So in the months leading up to the murders, the
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Speaker 1: family experienced a string of unsettling incidents that, in hindsight
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Speaker 1: looked like ominous red flags. These occurrences, though seemingly minor
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Speaker 1: at first, greatly disturbed the household and to some hint
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Speaker 1: that the killer might have been stalking the family for
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Speaker 1: some time, which is horrifying. I don't know why, but
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Speaker 1: the idea of somebody like frogging, which frogging in someone's
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Speaker 1: house is like somebody that lives in your house and
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Speaker 1: you don't know it and they just like steal stuff
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Speaker 1: at night and you know, or could be stalking you
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Speaker 1: or something. It's just like the creepiest thing to me.
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Speaker 1: I hate watching those videos, watching people like come down
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Speaker 1: from attics on people's cameras at night and stealing stuff
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Speaker 1: from their fridge. The violation is insane. Ooh, my worst nightmare.
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Speaker 1: So the group's previous maid, Cressence Rieger, had to quit
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Speaker 1: her job abruptly in late nineteen twenty one, six months
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Speaker 1: before the murders, and her reason for leaving. She believed
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Speaker 1: the farmhouse was haunted. So the maid reported hearing strange
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Speaker 1: footsteps overhead in the attic at night and could not
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Speaker 1: find a cause, leading her to conclude a ghost or
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Speaker 1: intruder lurked above, and Andreas Kruber at the time just
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Speaker 1: dismissed her fears, but the maid was so frightened that
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Speaker 1: she refused to stay on the farm, which in hindsight
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Speaker 1: was the best decision of her life. So the Grubbers
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Speaker 1: had no living made for several months after her departure,
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Speaker 1: and the eerie noises went unexplained. And then in March
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Speaker 1: of nineteen twenty two, Andreas Skruber found a newspaper from
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Speaker 1: Munich on the property that no one in the family
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Speaker 1: had purchased. And remember they live like in the middle
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Speaker 1: of nowhere, and it's a really small town, so this
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Speaker 1: is very strange. And it was a paper that none
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Speaker 1: of the neighbors subscribed to either, and its sudden appearance
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Speaker 1: just baffled Andreas, so he initially assumed it had been
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Speaker 1: lost by the postman, but this was not the case.
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Speaker 1: This instead suggested that perhaps a stranger had been on
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Speaker 1: the property, someone who left behind the newspaper intentionally or
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Speaker 1: not as a silent clue of their presence, which is
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Speaker 1: just creepy as fun. And just days before the murders,
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Speaker 1: after a fresh snowfall, Andreas also discovered a set of
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Speaker 1: footprints in the snow leading from the dense forest directly
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Speaker 1: toward his farm. Ooh, again, just so creepy, but intriguingly,
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Speaker 1: there was no returning footprints going back to the woods
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Speaker 1: get the police, so the single trail of steps ended
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Speaker 1: at the farm's machine room door, where Andreas also noticed
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Speaker 1: the lock was broken, so it appeared as if someone
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Speaker 1: had approached the farm outside of the woods, tried to
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Speaker 1: enter the machine room and never left. And this discovery
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Speaker 1: deeply alarmed Andreas, so he mentioned these mysterious tracks to
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Speaker 1: a few neighbors, but oddly refused any help and did
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Speaker 1: not report it to the police, which was the worst
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Speaker 1: mistake of his life and just solidified what a piece
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Speaker 1: of shit, selfish asshole he is. But it was around
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Speaker 1: the same time one of the family's house keys went
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Speaker 1: missing as well, without a trace, so the Grivers had
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Speaker 1: two sets of keys for the house and suddenly one
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Speaker 1: could not be found. Everyone was looking for it, but
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Speaker 1: they could not find it. So this disappearance, along with
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Speaker 1: the strange footsteps and footprints, strongly suggested that an intruder
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Speaker 1: might have secretly gained access now to the house, and
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Speaker 1: Andrea suspected someone had stolen a key, but again he
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Speaker 1: did not inform authorities of this disturbing development. And then
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Speaker 1: Andreas also reportedly found that someone had attempted to pick
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Speaker 1: the lock of the tool shed on the farm, in
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Speaker 1: addition to the machine room. Just like, I can't even
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Speaker 1: I don't even like eighty five red flags going off
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Speaker 1: right now that someone is clearly stalking or being an
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Speaker 1: intruder and he's doing nothing about it, which just kind
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Speaker 1: of makes you think, like what else was going on
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Speaker 1: in the household. That he couldn't get authorities involved when
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Speaker 1: he knew that someone was either trying to break in
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Speaker 1: or had already broken it makes me, It makes me squeamish.
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Speaker 1: So in retrospect, all of these events form an eerie pattern.
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Speaker 1: Footsteps in the attic, unexplained tracks from the forest, a
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Speaker 1: lost key, odd noises, and a sense of just being
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Speaker 1: watched because the family reported just having that weird feeling
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Speaker 1: of being watched, and it seemed as though someone was
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Speaker 1: infiltrating the farm's sanctity, testing the locks, and observing the
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Speaker 1: family's routines, and each incident was small enough to write
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Speaker 1: off as coincidence or imagination at the time, not to me,
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Speaker 1: but okay. And unfortunately those clues were not acted upon
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Speaker 1: because of the piece of shit Andrea's So the hinter
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Speaker 1: Kaifak family just carried on with daily life, no matter
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Speaker 1: how upset or concerned or scared that the family was. Remember,
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Speaker 1: Andreas was just this tyrant in the household and what
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Speaker 1: he said went so everybody just tried to act like
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Speaker 1: everything was normal and just tried to act blissfully, unaware
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Speaker 1: to the fact that they were likely under surveillance by
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Speaker 1: a killer who was meticulously planning their deaths. So Friday,
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Speaker 1: March thirty first, nineteen twenty two started off ordinarily enough
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Speaker 1: on the hinter Kaifek farm, but it would end in
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Speaker 1: horror because despite the recent unsettling incidences, Andreas and his
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Speaker 1: family went about their normal routines with no idea that
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Speaker 1: danger was closing in. So they would tend to the
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Speaker 1: livestock work to the barn and performed household tours. But
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Speaker 1: the afternoon, the group's new maid, Maria, arrived at the
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Speaker 1: farm to begin her employment. Remember this was her first
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Speaker 1: day on the jump, so Maria, who was forty four
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Speaker 1: years old, had been hired to replace the previous maid
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Speaker 1: who fled in fear. Remember the person that heard the
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Speaker 1: footsteps on the ceiling, and Maria's sister would escort her
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Speaker 1: to hinter Kaifek and help her get just situated and
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Speaker 1: then departed in the late afternoon, unknowingly becoming the last
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Speaker 1: outsider to see the family alive. For Maria, it was
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to start fresh, and for the grooverers it
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Speaker 1: was just an extra pair of hands to help with
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Speaker 1: the farm work. But as the evening approached, a tense
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Speaker 1: atmosphere seemed to hang over hinter Kaifek, and perhaps it
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Speaker 1: was only in hindsight, but later accounts claim there was
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Speaker 1: an unnatural silence, as if the birds and forest around
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Speaker 1: sensed what was to come. And just to preface, the
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Speaker 1: specific details about what happened and what the family was
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Speaker 1: doing as evening approached are unfortunately lost in time, but
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Speaker 1: what we do know is that night was approaching and
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Speaker 1: a killer was likely already on the property, just lying
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Speaker 1: in wait, and knowing what happened after the fact, we
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Speaker 1: can do a pretty accurate reconstruction of what happened that night.
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Speaker 1: So when nighttime approached hinter Kaifek on March thirty first,
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Speaker 1: nineteen twenty two, an unknown assailant prepared to execute their plan,
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Speaker 1: and the Gruber family, following their daily habit, began winding
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Speaker 1: down for the night and one by one they would
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Speaker 1: venture into the farm to finish their evening chores for
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Speaker 1: the night, and one by one they would meet the killer.
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Speaker 1: So Andreas Kruber was likely the first to go out,
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Speaker 1: and perhaps it was because he heard a disturbance in
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Speaker 1: the stable, like a cow acting restless or an unfamiliar noise,
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Speaker 1: and being the head of the household, went to investigate
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Speaker 1: around the barn. But inside the barn's darkness a figure
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Speaker 1: lay in weight amongst the animals, and in that instant
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Speaker 1: of surprise, the assailant Andreas with brutal force, using a mattic,
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Speaker 1: a heavy farm tool similar to a pickaxe, and the
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Speaker 1: first blow would land with a sickening thud on Andrea's skull,
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Speaker 1: probably cutting off any cry of alarm, and that's when
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Speaker 1: he would collapse onto the barn floor, likely dead or
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Speaker 1: dying from the blunt force trauma. And that's when Victoria
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Speaker 1: Gabriel would approach next, and she would step through the
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Speaker 1: barn door and stumble upon the dark silhouette of her
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Speaker 1: father's body, and before she could scream, the killer lunged.
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Speaker 1: Victoria tried to fend off her attacker, and there's evidence
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Speaker 1: of straulation marks on her neck, which sugges she may
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Speaker 1: have been grabbed by the throat in the struggle. But
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Speaker 1: during the fight for her life, the mattock would come
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Speaker 1: down again and again, and Victoria would pass, suffering at
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Speaker 1: least nine blunt force trauma wounds to her head. So Victoria,
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Speaker 1: now deceased, would lay crumpled on the floor beside her
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Speaker 1: own father. And in the farmhouse, little Cecilia and her grandmother.
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Speaker 1: Cecilia grew concerned the long silence following Andreas and Victoria's departure,
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Speaker 1: and perhaps little Cecilia clutched her grandmother's hand and together
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Speaker 1: they went out into the night to see what was
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Speaker 1: happening in the barn with their family, and unfortunately they
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Speaker 1: would meet the same fate and the elderly Cecilia would
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Speaker 1: be hit first with seven blood to her head with
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Speaker 1: that same mattock, and she would also actually show signs
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Speaker 1: of strangulation in the aftermath. And this just kind of
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Speaker 1: reflected a rage or personal malice towards this matriarch and
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Speaker 1: towards the entire family. I mean, this was such a
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Speaker 1: brutal attack. And then there was young Setzelia witnessing the
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Speaker 1: horror of her family just being stuttered and in the barn.
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Speaker 1: She would be the last to fall. And the way
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Speaker 1: this assailant killed this girl was absolutely brutal, in fact,
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Speaker 1: more brutal than any of the other murders. He would
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Speaker 1: not only use the mattic and blunt force trauma to
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Speaker 1: her head after the fact, he would also take a
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Speaker 1: knife to her throat. But again, it just went on
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Speaker 1: to show how incredibly personal this did feel. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is an incredibly brutal crime. To kill this entire
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Speaker 1: family and leave the little girl last in the barn,
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Speaker 1: and to kill her in a very methodically sickening way
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Speaker 1: is just you just think of, like, what would motivate
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Speaker 1: someone to do this? Obviously, this is not a sane
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Speaker 1: human being. This is a sick individual, but the thought
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Speaker 1: of not knowing who it is is just horrifying. So
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Speaker 1: within minutes, four members of the Griver family lay dead
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Speaker 1: or dying in the barn. But the murderer wasn't finished,
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Speaker 1: because the murderer would then methodically arrange and conceal the bodies,
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Speaker 1: and investigators later found the corpses of Andreas, Victoria, the
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Speaker 1: elder Cecilia, and the little Cecilia stacked atop one another
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Speaker 1: in a corner of the barn and covered with layers
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Speaker 1: of hay, so it was as if the killer was
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Speaker 1: tucking them in or hiding the gruesome sight. Maybe he
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Speaker 1: had some semblance of remorse. Often we see serial killers
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Speaker 1: that do have remorse, covering victims' faces or putting them
20:41
Speaker 1: upside down so they can't see them, so they can't
20:44
Speaker 1: look back at the killer. But again we'll we'll never
20:48
Speaker 1: know for sure. And he would also plays an old
20:50
Speaker 1: barn door or board over top of them, perhaps to
20:54
Speaker 1: further cover the scene, or again perhaps because he had
20:58
Speaker 1: some sort of weird for what he had just done.
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Speaker 1: And meanwhile, back inside the home of hinter Kaifek, two
21:05
Speaker 1: year old Joseph slept in his bacinette in Victoria's room,
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Speaker 1: and the new maid, Maria, retired to the maid's chambers
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Speaker 1: for the night, just oblivious to the fact that death
21:16
Speaker 1: was stalking closer to inside their home. So with the
21:20
Speaker 1: four family members in the barn dispatched, the killer walked
21:24
Speaker 1: through the yard to the farmhouse, and the assailant would
21:27
Speaker 1: enter and step into the home, now occupied by only
21:30
Speaker 1: the innocent and the unsuspecting, possibly using a key or
21:35
Speaker 1: through an unlocked door left ajar by one of the victims,
21:38
Speaker 1: and Maria, the housemaid, who was on her first day
21:41
Speaker 1: of work, may have heard a creaking floorboard or since
21:44
Speaker 1: someone was in her room, but in a heartbeat, the
21:47
Speaker 1: killer swung the bloodied mattock down on Maria, and after
21:51
Speaker 1: multiple blots to her head, she would also pass, but
21:55
Speaker 1: her death specifically seemed to be extremely swift, and finally
21:59
Speaker 1: the or were crept into the room where baby Yoseph slept,
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Speaker 1: and the little innocent boy would be killed in the
22:07
Speaker 1: same way. The rest of his family was, Yeah, I
22:11
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just like it's one hundred years ago,
22:14
Speaker 1: but it's still talking about any of this stuff that
22:16
Speaker 1: like it takes a toll on me, but man like
22:20
Speaker 1: like kids, and it's like it takes a special kind
22:23
Speaker 1: of evil to do anything like this, but a child
22:27
Speaker 1: is just a special place in hell. But in an
22:31
Speaker 1: act of odd compassion or some sort of symbolism, the
22:35
Speaker 1: killer would then cover Yoseph's body with one of Victoria's
22:39
Speaker 1: dresses from a nearby wardrobe. And similarly he had actually
22:43
Speaker 1: covered Maria, the maid's body with bed sheets as well,
22:46
Speaker 1: so he had covered the entire family. And it just
22:49
Speaker 1: makes you think that this was personalist, was done by
22:52
Speaker 1: somebody who knew them, or or by somebody who just
22:57
Speaker 1: felt bad for what they did after the fact. Maybe again,
23:01
Speaker 1: we will never know. So within the span of a
23:04
Speaker 1: late night hour, the hinter Kaifak farm had become a
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Speaker 1: death house. The entire family and their maid lay lifeless,
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Speaker 1: blushed with a farm tool with ruthless precision, and forensic
23:17
Speaker 1: examination later concluded that the weapon was likely the gruper's
23:21
Speaker 1: own mattic, which the killer had found on the property
23:24
Speaker 1: and wielded expertly, and the slurper was methodical and unhesitating.
23:30
Speaker 1: Yet the covering of the body's hints at a killer
23:32
Speaker 1: who was not completely indifferent after the act, and incredibly,
23:36
Speaker 1: evidence showed that at least one victim did not die immediately,
23:41
Speaker 1: and that was young cin Celia Gabriel, surviving a few
23:45
Speaker 1: agonizing hours in the pile of bodies that he stacked
23:49
Speaker 1: on top of each other, so she was still alive
23:53
Speaker 1: for hours after the fact, laying with her own family.
23:58
Speaker 1: It is actually a I can't even imagine it, like
24:01
Speaker 1: it's a horror movie, and forensic examiners knew this because
24:05
Speaker 1: clumps of her own hair were found torn out by
24:08
Speaker 1: her roots in her own hands, indicating that she had
24:11
Speaker 1: regained consciousness and in terror or in pain, ripped out
24:16
Speaker 1: her own hair before finally succumbing to her injuries. Just
24:21
Speaker 1: absolutely heartbreaking, and autopsies later suggested that the older victims,
24:25
Speaker 1: Andreas and his wife Cecilia and Victoria, likely died instantly
24:30
Speaker 1: from their injuries because the assailant delivered the blood to
24:33
Speaker 1: their heads with such force that it most likely knocked
24:37
Speaker 1: them out immediately, and they didn't know what happened after
24:40
Speaker 1: the fact, and neighbors would hear nothing. So with all
24:45
Speaker 1: of these foul, inhumane deeds done, one might assume that
24:50
Speaker 1: the murderer would flee immediately into the night, but the
24:53
Speaker 1: hinter Kaifak case has one more ghastly twist, and that
24:58
Speaker 1: is that the killer not leave the farm, at least
25:02
Speaker 1: not right away. So investigators painstakingly reconstructed the likely sequence
25:06
Speaker 1: in which the victims were killed, drawing on blood evidence,
25:10
Speaker 1: positions of the bodies, and autopsy findings, and the forensic
25:13
Speaker 1: reconstruction of their deaths leads to the sobering realization that
25:17
Speaker 1: the entire family was systematically executed adult male first to
25:23
Speaker 1: eliminate the biggest threat adult woman, next, then the child,
25:28
Speaker 1: and finally the defenseless maid and infant. And such a
25:32
Speaker 1: methodical approach suggests planning and familiarity, so the killer knew
25:38
Speaker 1: the layout of the farm and the habits of its residents,
25:41
Speaker 1: for instance, that the family might respond one by one
25:44
Speaker 1: to strange noises, and that the baby slept in Victoria's room.
25:48
Speaker 1: There were no signs of firearm use or overt struggle either,
25:52
Speaker 1: because all the violence was inflicted with a melee weapon
25:55
Speaker 1: at close quarters, in a very confined space and with
25:59
Speaker 1: suprising stealth, and the order of deaths is also telling
26:03
Speaker 1: in terms of motive because the fact that every single person,
26:07
Speaker 1: including the two year old Joseph, was brutally murdered, indicates
26:11
Speaker 1: the assailant's goal was to leave no witnesses and completely
26:15
Speaker 1: annihilate the family line. So this was more than just
26:18
Speaker 1: a quick crime of opportunity. It had all the hallmarks
26:22
Speaker 1: of an extermination driven by deep anger or hatred, and,
26:26
Speaker 1: as one police inspector later noted, the ferocity of the
26:29
Speaker 1: killings and targeting of even the baby suggests a personal
26:33
Speaker 1: vendetta at play. And perhaps the most unsettling aspect of
26:36
Speaker 1: the hinter Kifak murders is what happened after the family
26:40
Speaker 1: was dead, because instead of fleeing immediately, the killer remained
26:44
Speaker 1: on the farm for several days, living among the six corpses,
26:50
Speaker 1: and this is supported by numerous clues, because neighbors and
26:54
Speaker 1: later police discovered that the grouper's livestock were fed and
26:58
Speaker 1: tended in the day's following the murders, and by all rights,
27:02
Speaker 1: the animals should have been bawling with hunger or dying
27:05
Speaker 1: of thirst if left unattended for long, But when the
27:09
Speaker 1: farm was finally checked on April fourth, the cattle appeared
27:12
Speaker 1: well fed and the Pomeranian watchdog was tied up and
27:16
Speaker 1: healthy looking. Though barking furiously, and this suggests that the
27:20
Speaker 1: murderer was comfortable enough and sufficiently familiar with farm work
27:24
Speaker 1: to maintain the daily routine and keep the animals calm,
27:28
Speaker 1: which is all kinds of stuff. I again, like you
27:32
Speaker 1: can't even I can't even wrap my head around the case,
27:36
Speaker 1: Like I can't imagine that this is real, but it
27:38
Speaker 1: very much is, and it's just incredibly sickening. And also
27:44
Speaker 1: inside the house, evidence showed that the killer helped himself
27:48
Speaker 1: to the family's food supplies, because the entire supply of
27:51
Speaker 1: bread in the kitchen had been consumed, and slices of
27:55
Speaker 1: meat had been cut from the pantry stores and a
27:57
Speaker 1: stove had been used to cook meals, and even neighbors
28:01
Speaker 1: reported seeing smoke rising from the chimney over the weekend,
28:05
Speaker 1: indicating that someone had lit fires after the family was dead.
28:09
Speaker 1: In fact, on the night of April first, the night
28:12
Speaker 1: after the murders, a passer by named Michael Plaikel walked
28:15
Speaker 1: near hinter Kaifek and noticed the oven was heated and
28:19
Speaker 1: emanating a foul smoke, and he also recalled that a
28:23
Speaker 1: figure with a lantern appeared in the yard and shone
28:25
Speaker 1: the light into his face, causing him to hurry away,
28:29
Speaker 1: uncertain of what the heck was going on. And the
28:31
Speaker 1: smoke from the chimney had quote a revolting smell, perhaps
28:35
Speaker 1: from the killer burning something, but that we don't know
28:38
Speaker 1: what it was. And this strange encounter wasn't reported until later,
28:42
Speaker 1: but it's a haunting confirmation that the killer was indeed
28:45
Speaker 1: active on the farm the next night. And when searchers
28:49
Speaker 1: finally entered the farm on April fourth, they found things
28:53
Speaker 1: in relative order. Aside from the horrifying discovery of the bodies,
28:57
Speaker 1: there was no sign of ransacking or chaotic vandalism, and
29:01
Speaker 1: despite having days on site, the killer did not steal
29:05
Speaker 1: the large sums of money and valuables that were in
29:08
Speaker 1: the household. A police letter found hefty cash reserves untouched
29:12
Speaker 1: in the drawers and the cabinets. But this guy was
29:14
Speaker 1: here for days and days, cooking and cleaning and doing
29:17
Speaker 1: all the stuff. Of course he would see this, the
29:20
Speaker 1: money in the drawers, but he didn't take any of it.
29:23
Speaker 1: Because Gribber's were fairly well off people who distrusted banks,
29:27
Speaker 1: so they kept cash at home, and you'd assumed that
29:31
Speaker 1: this person would know that. So this effectively ruled out
29:34
Speaker 1: any sort of robbery motive, because any stranger bent on
29:38
Speaker 1: theft could have taken the money and vanished long before
29:41
Speaker 1: the bodies were ever found, and the fact that nothing
29:43
Speaker 1: of major value was taken yet the perpetrator stayed just
29:46
Speaker 1: underscores that the motive was personal rather than financial. So
29:50
Speaker 1: it's as if the murderer's primary concern was ensuring that
29:53
Speaker 1: the family was annihilated, rather than taking any of their
29:57
Speaker 1: possessions for their own enrichment. So all of these post
30:01
Speaker 1: murder activities paint a portrait of a calculating, cold blooded individual.
30:06
Speaker 1: The murderer exhibited a nerve and familiarity that is truly
30:10
Speaker 1: just frightening, feeding livestock, eating meals, and keeping house as
30:14
Speaker 1: if nothing had happened, and perhaps they were waiting out
30:18
Speaker 1: a storm or ensuring no immediate suspicion arose from the
30:22
Speaker 1: farm going silent by doing chores and tending to animals.
30:25
Speaker 1: The killer may have tried to ensure that from the
30:27
Speaker 1: outside hinter Kaifek looked normal for a few days and
30:32
Speaker 1: it would work. And another example of this working is
30:35
Speaker 1: on April first, two coffee salesmen who stopped by notice
30:38
Speaker 1: the smoke from the chimney, though no one answered the
30:41
Speaker 1: door when they knocked, so they just left, assuming no
30:43
Speaker 1: one was home or they were just busy. So the
30:46
Speaker 1: killer's prolonged presence just also suggests they felt secure and unhurried,
30:51
Speaker 1: unbothered even and just confident that no one would drop
30:55
Speaker 1: in unexpectedly, just further hinting that he might have been
30:59
Speaker 1: intimately familiar with the family's neighbors and routines. So sometime
31:03
Speaker 1: on April third or early April fourth, the murderer finally
31:06
Speaker 1: left the family farm, likely under the cover of night,
31:09
Speaker 1: and by the time whorried neighbors arrived to investigate, the
31:12
Speaker 1: farm was eerily quiet, except for the distressed barking of
31:16
Speaker 1: the dog and the livestock lowing in their stalls. But
31:19
Speaker 1: the killer had vanished like a phantom, leaving behind one
31:23
Speaker 1: of history's most baffling crime scenes. So for four days
31:27
Speaker 1: after the murders, the group of farmstead lay ominously still.
31:31
Speaker 1: Neighbors gradually noticed the family's unusual absence. In seven year olds,
31:35
Speaker 1: Secilia did not show up for school on Saturday, April first,
31:40
Speaker 1: nor the following Monday or Tuesday. Victoria, who was a
31:44
Speaker 1: faithful member of the church choir missed Sunday service on
31:48
Speaker 1: April second, raising eyebrows since she seldom skipped church, and
31:52
Speaker 1: mail began to pile up at the local post office
31:55
Speaker 1: because the family hadn't picked up their post in days.
31:58
Speaker 1: So these signs of trouble prompted concerns and neighbors would
32:01
Speaker 1: take action. It's on Tuesday, April fourth, Albert Hoffner, a mechanic,
32:06
Speaker 1: arrived at hinter Kaifek and he would go there to
32:09
Speaker 1: repair an engine. And Hoffner would just wait around for
32:12
Speaker 1: about an hour, knocking on doors and calling out, but
32:15
Speaker 1: nobody greeted him. So frustrated but needing to finish his job,
32:19
Speaker 1: Hoffner went ahead and spent several hours fixing the engine
32:23
Speaker 1: in the yard, not knowing that the entire family lay
32:26
Speaker 1: dead in the barn and in the home, and after
32:29
Speaker 1: completing the repairs, he just left, later remarking that the
32:33
Speaker 1: situation did feel odd. It was as if the family
32:36
Speaker 1: had intentionally ignored him, which was completely out of character,
32:40
Speaker 1: and by that afternoon, Lorenz, along with friends Michael and Jakub,
32:45
Speaker 1: decided to form a search party to check on the Grubers,
32:48
Speaker 1: and Lorenz, being a neighbor and also the former love
32:51
Speaker 1: interest of Victoria, was especially concerned that no Gruber family
32:55
Speaker 1: members had been seen since the weekend, and he initially
32:58
Speaker 1: sent his teenage son and steps on ahead to knock
33:01
Speaker 1: on the door, but when they reported silence, Lorenz and
33:04
Speaker 1: the others headed over for themselves, and upon arriving, the
33:08
Speaker 1: men found the house locked up tight, so they literally
33:12
Speaker 1: had to break open the barn door to gain entry
33:15
Speaker 1: to the property, and inside the barn, the smell of
33:19
Speaker 1: decay would hang in the air, and Lorenz and the
33:22
Speaker 1: others stepped into the gloomy stable and stumbled upon a
33:26
Speaker 1: dreadful sight that would haunt them forever because in the
33:29
Speaker 1: corner of the barn they discovered what looked like a
33:32
Speaker 1: pile of hay and straw covering irregular shapes. So when
33:36
Speaker 1: removing the hay, the men uncovered the bloodied, battered corpses
33:40
Speaker 1: of Andreas, Sat Celia Senior, Victoria, and Little Celia stacked
33:45
Speaker 1: on top of each other. And the state of the
33:47
Speaker 1: bodies when they were found were grotesque because the blunt
33:51
Speaker 1: forced trauma wounds all in their heads were substantial, making
33:56
Speaker 1: them almost unrecognizable. It was just a pickture of horror.
34:01
Speaker 1: But Lorenz would then do something curious, because while his
34:05
Speaker 1: companions were horrified and hesitant, he proceeded to unlock the
34:10
Speaker 1: front door of the farmhouse and enter alone. And accounts
34:13
Speaker 1: differ on whether Lorenz had a key. Some say he
34:16
Speaker 1: produced one that fit the door, which was a bit suspicious,
34:20
Speaker 1: while others say he found the key in the lock,
34:23
Speaker 1: or that one of the barn doors was simply unlocked
34:25
Speaker 1: from the inside. But in any case, Lorenz went into
34:28
Speaker 1: the silent farmhouse ahead of the others, and in the
34:31
Speaker 1: dark interior he soon found the body of Maria in
34:34
Speaker 1: her bed, the maid just soaked in blood, and nearby
34:38
Speaker 1: in Victoria's bedroom he would find baby Josef deceased as well.
34:42
Speaker 1: So the search party had confirmed the worst. All six
34:45
Speaker 1: residents of hinter Kaifek were dead and clearly murdered. So
34:50
Speaker 1: the discovery would just scent shock waves through this small
34:54
Speaker 1: little community and news would spread rapidly that evening across
34:57
Speaker 1: at Growburn and nearby villages that an entire family had
35:01
Speaker 1: been slaughtered, and by nightfall on April fourth, lantern light
35:04
Speaker 1: and hushed whispers filled the one's quiet hinter Kifak yard
35:08
Speaker 1: as neighbors stood guard over the scene until police could arrive,
35:12
Speaker 1: and those first onlookers would later be criticized for inadvertently
35:16
Speaker 1: contaminating the crime scene. But in the moment, they were
35:19
Speaker 1: just villagers grappling with the enormity of what had just happened.
35:23
Speaker 1: And of course back then we didn't know anything about
35:26
Speaker 1: forensics really, but they could just not comprehend who would
35:30
Speaker 1: commit such a monstrous act and was the killer some
35:33
Speaker 1: outsider who had fled or were they a local? But
35:37
Speaker 1: the next morning investigators from Munich would arrive to begin
35:40
Speaker 1: piecing together this grim puzzle, and the tragedy had been uncovered,
35:45
Speaker 1: but the real mystery was only beginning, because who the
35:49
Speaker 1: hell killed the Grouper family and why? And the answer
35:54
Speaker 1: would prove frustratingly elusive. So the police investigation into the
35:58
Speaker 1: hinter Kaifak murders was launched on April fifth, nineteen twenty two,
36:02
Speaker 1: led by Inspector Georg Ryan Gruber and his team from Munich,
36:06
Speaker 1: and from the outset, the case posed immense challenges because
36:09
Speaker 1: by the time the officers reached the farm, my countless
36:12
Speaker 1: curious neighbors had already trampled through the scene, moving bodies
36:17
Speaker 1: and handling potential evidence. In fact, it's reported that some
36:20
Speaker 1: neighbors had even cooked meals in the kitchen and helped
36:24
Speaker 1: themselves to the family's coffee while quote standing watch over
36:28
Speaker 1: the bodies prior to the police arriving. Which again it's
36:32
Speaker 1: a different time. You don't know about forensic stuff, but
36:34
Speaker 1: they knew, you know, you know, not to go in
36:37
Speaker 1: and move bodies. My god, but I don't know. I
36:43
Speaker 1: feel like I can't really say anything at this point
36:45
Speaker 1: because very small town. They're all close knit and although
36:49
Speaker 1: this family was obviously on the outskirts, especially with all
36:52
Speaker 1: the scandals, they just probably felt like they were helping
36:56
Speaker 1: in some weird way. But this agreed which contamination destroyed
37:02
Speaker 1: any pristine forensic clues. Footprints, fingerprints, and other trace evidence
37:06
Speaker 1: were hopelessly compromised, and nevertheless, Inspector rain Gruber began the
37:11
Speaker 1: meticulous work of documenting the crime scene as it remained,
37:14
Speaker 1: because that's all he could work with. So the bodies
37:17
Speaker 1: were examined where they lay in the barn and house,
37:20
Speaker 1: and on April fifth, court physician doctor Johann Baptist al
37:24
Speaker 1: Muller arrived and performed autopsies on site in the Barnes
37:28
Speaker 1: coach house, and it was a macabre setting for an autopsy,
37:32
Speaker 1: but necessary given the era and the state of the bodies.
37:36
Speaker 1: So the doctor confirmed that a mattock or a pickaxe
37:40
Speaker 1: like farm tool was likely the murder weapon based on
37:43
Speaker 1: the shape of the wounds because of her deep notches
37:47
Speaker 1: and star shaped lacerations in the skulls corresponded to the
37:51
Speaker 1: blunt or pick ends of a mattock, but strangely, no
37:55
Speaker 1: matic was immediately found at the scene during the initial search,
37:59
Speaker 1: leaving investigators perplexed about the weapons whereabouts and the grousome
38:02
Speaker 1: details confirmed that all victims were murdered with the same
38:06
Speaker 1: tools and with extraordinary brutality, and the doctor also made
38:10
Speaker 1: the decision to remove all six victims' heads during the autopsy,
38:15
Speaker 1: and the skulls were sent to Munich for further forensic examination,
38:19
Speaker 1: and bizarrely, they would also later send the heads to
38:22
Speaker 1: Claravoyance in an attempt to physically divine the killer, which
38:27
Speaker 1: obviously did not work, but in this day and age,
38:30
Speaker 1: they kind of tried anything, because without modern forensics, investigators
38:34
Speaker 1: sometimes tried anything, even the occult, to get leads. But
38:38
Speaker 1: the decapitated bodies were thereafter buried without their heads, which
38:42
Speaker 1: is feels so wrong, Like I understand, but it just
38:48
Speaker 1: feels very sick. So initial police work canvassed the farm
38:52
Speaker 1: and immediate surroundings for clues, and they noted that none
38:55
Speaker 1: of the doors or windows showed forced entry, apart from
38:58
Speaker 1: those the search party broke themselves, and this hinted that
39:02
Speaker 1: the killer either had a key or access the house
39:05
Speaker 1: while it was unlocked, lending weight to the missing key
39:08
Speaker 1: incident reported because remember it was reported by Andreas, but
39:11
Speaker 1: he said it now, we don't need any help, it's fine.
39:14
Speaker 1: And in the attic, investigators found evidence that someone may
39:17
Speaker 1: have been living there for some time because they discovered
39:21
Speaker 1: makeshift bedding in the hayloft and some food scraps, as
39:24
Speaker 1: well as human feces in the corner of the attic.
39:27
Speaker 1: And this creepy fine just supported the former maid's claims
39:32
Speaker 1: of hearing an intruder in the attic, and it suggests
39:35
Speaker 1: the murderer perhaps hid in the attic loft in the
39:37
Speaker 1: days or even weeks leading up to the crime. It's
39:41
Speaker 1: just spying on the family, just surveying the situation. And
39:44
Speaker 1: they also found footprints in the dusty rafters and disturbed
39:48
Speaker 1: layer of dust indicated a recent occupation. So despite the challenges,
39:53
Speaker 1: the investigation did uncover several key clues and findings that
39:57
Speaker 1: directed suspicion and informed theories, and it would become indisputable
40:01
Speaker 1: that the perpetrator remained at hinter Kaifek for several days
40:05
Speaker 1: after March thirty first, after the night of the murders,
40:08
Speaker 1: and all the evidence of animal care and meal preparation
40:10
Speaker 1: was documented by police, and this fact shaped the profile
40:14
Speaker 1: of the killer entirely. He was likely local or connected,
40:18
Speaker 1: someone who felt at ease literally living with the dead,
40:21
Speaker 1: and confident enough to linger. And there was no robbery
40:25
Speaker 1: motive because investigators found large amounts of cash and valuables
40:28
Speaker 1: untouched in the house, so this quashed the initial hypothesis
40:32
Speaker 1: that vagrants or robbers were responsible for the murders since
40:35
Speaker 1: nothing significant was stolen, so the motive seemed personal rather
40:39
Speaker 1: than financially driven like we were discussing before. And initially
40:43
Speaker 1: the murder weapon was missing, but in nineteen twenty three,
40:46
Speaker 1: during the demolition of the farm buildings, the suspected weapon
40:49
Speaker 1: was finally discovered, and this distinctive farmatic was found hidden
40:54
Speaker 1: in the hayloft of the barn roof, tucked above the rafters,
40:58
Speaker 1: and it was identified by a former farm hand, George Ziegel,
41:01
Speaker 1: who recognized it as a tool onreas Kruber had crafted himself,
41:06
Speaker 1: and this suggests that the killer hid the weapon on site,
41:09
Speaker 1: perhaps intending to mislead the search or because he left
41:12
Speaker 1: in a haste. And interestingly, some sources state that a
41:16
Speaker 1: pair of broken murder weapons were found and those were
41:19
Speaker 1: amatic and a small pen knife. And a pen knife
41:22
Speaker 1: was indeed found on the property but could not be
41:25
Speaker 1: linked to any victim, raising speculation it might have belonged
41:29
Speaker 1: to the perpetrator who lost it, and one rumor involves
41:32
Speaker 1: the mention of a missing pen knife by a suspect's mother,
41:36
Speaker 1: but it was never conclusively tied to the crime. In in
41:39
Speaker 1: addition to all the aforementioned forensic findings in regards to
41:44
Speaker 1: the bodies themselves, the discovery of little Setsia's suffering was
41:48
Speaker 1: crucial in understanding the timeline of the murders and indicated
41:52
Speaker 1: the killer did not return to deliver a stroke of
41:55
Speaker 1: mercy to a still living victim, or perhaps just did
41:59
Speaker 1: realize that she was still alive, which is what I'm assuming,
42:03
Speaker 1: and crime scene analysis deduced the staggering order in victims
42:06
Speaker 1: were likely drawn to their deaths and the fact that
42:09
Speaker 1: the barn was likely used to isolate and kill multiple
42:11
Speaker 1: victims without alarming those in the house was a significant insight.
42:15
Speaker 1: So investigators tested the scenario by seeing if noise in
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Speaker 1: the barn could be heard from the living quarters and
42:21
Speaker 1: found that the barn noises were muffled, meaning those inside
42:24
Speaker 1: the house might not hear screams or thuds from the barn,
42:27
Speaker 1: and this made the scenario of sequential luring completely plausible,
42:31
Speaker 1: though one police report noted skepticism that all four would
42:35
Speaker 1: wander one by one without someone raising an alarm, and
42:38
Speaker 1: based on witness last sightings, the family was last definitively
42:42
Speaker 1: seen alive on March thirty first, and the condition of
42:45
Speaker 1: the bodies when found, so the murders were estimated to
42:48
Speaker 1: have occurred on the late evening of March thirty first,
42:50
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty two, and investigators would take particular note of
42:54
Speaker 1: Lorenzo's behavior during the discovery, and they found it odd
42:58
Speaker 1: that he had entered the house alone and allegedly unlocked
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Speaker 1: the door with a key, and Lorenz allegedly claimed he
43:05
Speaker 1: was searching for his son Joseph worried the child might
43:08
Speaker 1: be alive or deceased, a statement that immediately flagged his
43:12
Speaker 1: possible knowledge or assumption that Joseph was his own son.
43:16
Speaker 1: And moreover, Lorenz had indeed disturbed the bodies in the barn,
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Speaker 1: moving them around, supposedly to check if anyone was alive,
43:23
Speaker 1: which you know, it makes sense if you were close
43:27
Speaker 1: to the family and you care about them and you
43:28
Speaker 1: want to make sure if they're actually dead or not,
43:30
Speaker 1: like it makes sense, but it also is it is
43:34
Speaker 1: suspicious at the same time because this disturbance compromised the
43:37
Speaker 1: scene further, but also made local side eye Lorenz with
43:41
Speaker 1: suspicion because could a murderer be so bold as to
43:44
Speaker 1: lead the search and quote find his victims and police
43:48
Speaker 1: were well aware of that possibility. And beyond the physical evidence,
43:52
Speaker 1: police delved into the relationships and history of the victims,
43:56
Speaker 1: and they learned of Andreas and Victoria's incest conviction, the
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Speaker 1: paternity dispute over Joseph, and Andreas's reputation for violence and quarrels,
44:05
Speaker 1: and every unsavory detail became a potential motive for these murders,
44:10
Speaker 1: and there was talk that Victoria had been pressuring Lorenz
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Speaker 1: for child support payments for Joseph and possibly threatening legal action,
44:17
Speaker 1: and if true, that could be motive for Lorenzo's resentment,
44:20
Speaker 1: and there were also rumors that the family's large fortune
44:23
Speaker 1: could have caused conflict or envy from others. So, faced
44:26
Speaker 1: with a heinous crime and no obvious perpetrator, the police
44:30
Speaker 1: initially rounded up the usual suspects. Vagrants, traveling craftsmen, recently
44:35
Speaker 1: discharged soldiers, and known petty criminals in the region were questioned,
44:38
Speaker 1: but these leads went literally nowhere, especially after money was
44:43
Speaker 1: found untouched. That was a big factor. It was clear
44:46
Speaker 1: the answers likely lay in targeted vendetta, so the investigators
44:50
Speaker 1: then compiled a list of people with connections or grievances
44:53
Speaker 1: against the groupers, and over the following weeks they would
44:56
Speaker 1: interrogate neighbors, distant relatives, former servants, and any one who
45:00
Speaker 1: might have a shred of motive and arrests were made
45:03
Speaker 1: and multiple individuals were detained on suspicion, but each time
45:07
Speaker 1: they were released for a lack of evidence, and the
45:10
Speaker 1: community's frictions, gossip and old feuds all had to be
45:13
Speaker 1: sitted through. But the hinter Kaifak investigation suffered from numerous
45:17
Speaker 1: challenges and missteps that ultimately left the case unsolved because,
45:22
Speaker 1: as mentioned, by the time professional investigators took charge, the
45:25
Speaker 1: crime scene had been trampled by nosy neighbors and well
45:28
Speaker 1: meaning helpers, and critical evidence might have been moved or
45:32
Speaker 1: even destroyed, and fingerprint collection, which was a known technique
45:35
Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties, was not properly conducted and police
45:38
Speaker 1: failed to secure any fingerprints from key areas, which was
45:42
Speaker 1: a lapse later heavily criticized. So in essence, the forensic
45:45
Speaker 1: integrity of the scene was just completely lost, and in
45:50
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty two, forensic science was still rudimentary in comparison
45:54
Speaker 1: to modern forensics obviously, so there was no DNA analysis,
45:58
Speaker 1: no security cameras, and no central databases of suspects, so
46:02
Speaker 1: they did not have a lot to work with. So
46:04
Speaker 1: the case relied on witness testimony and just basic detective work,
46:08
Speaker 1: and the concept of criminal profiling was in its infancy
46:12
Speaker 1: at this point. Though they did surmise that the killer
46:14
Speaker 1: was experienced with farms and possibly had a personal vendetta
46:18
Speaker 1: and had modern methods like blood typing, which did exist
46:21
Speaker 1: but was not widely used in crime scenes yet, or
46:24
Speaker 1: later DNA been available, maybe something could have been gleaned
46:27
Speaker 1: from the copious blood or harrors or fibers, but instead
46:31
Speaker 1: the investigators had to mostly infer from circumstantial evidence, which
46:36
Speaker 1: even today doesn't usually hold up in court, and the
46:39
Speaker 1: fact that the murders were discovered four days after the
46:42
Speaker 1: fact gave the perpetrator a huge headstart, and by April
46:46
Speaker 1: fourth any murderer could have been long gone or could
46:49
Speaker 1: blend back into normal life if he was a local,
46:52
Speaker 1: and the passage of time also meant any physical signs
46:55
Speaker 1: beyond the farm i Eied the footprints in surrounding fields
46:58
Speaker 1: or blood on roads might have degraded or been erased completely.
47:02
Speaker 1: So as the investigation were on, police were pulled in
47:06
Speaker 1: many different directions by various leads, and at different times
47:09
Speaker 1: the blame seemed to shift from one suspect to another,
47:13
Speaker 1: but each promising theory hit a dead end, and the
47:16
Speaker 1: evidence was all largely circumstantial. Like we mentioned, for example,
47:20
Speaker 1: a neighbor having a key or someone making a suspicious
47:23
Speaker 1: comment that were all intriguing for sure, but not proof
47:27
Speaker 1: of any kind of murder, and just the absence of
47:29
Speaker 1: any sort of confession or eyewitness put the case in
47:33
Speaker 1: just a permanent limbo. But the gruesome nature of the
47:36
Speaker 1: crime attracted intense public interest and media coverage, and under
47:40
Speaker 1: the pressure to deliver results, investigators tried unconventional avenues, and
47:45
Speaker 1: as previously mentioned, the victim's skulls were sent to Munich
47:48
Speaker 1: not just for forensic study, but also to a series
47:51
Speaker 1: of clairvoyants otherwise known as mediums, who attempted to quote
47:54
Speaker 1: read the murders physically, but unsurprisingly, these occult experiments yielded
47:59
Speaker 1: no usable clues. Also, how could you ever use that
48:02
Speaker 1: in core? And you couldn't you know? They were just
48:04
Speaker 1: trying anything. And the public nature of the case also
48:07
Speaker 1: meant that rumors just ran rampant, complicating efforts to discern
48:11
Speaker 1: truth from fiction, and the Hindterra Kaifak case file was
48:14
Speaker 1: periodically reopened over the years, but critical evidence had been
48:18
Speaker 1: lost or just decayed, and the victim's skulls, for instance,
48:21
Speaker 1: went missing during World War Two and it were likely
48:24
Speaker 1: destroyed it during Allied bombings on Munich and This prevented
48:28
Speaker 1: any later re examination of wounds with advanced techniques, and
48:32
Speaker 1: key witnesses and suspects just died off over time, taking
48:36
Speaker 1: any sort of secrets with them. By nineteen fifty five,
48:39
Speaker 1: the official case was closed and deemed unsolvable with the
48:43
Speaker 1: available evidence, and in nineteen eighty six the last interrogations
48:47
Speaker 1: were conducted by an aging detective familiar with the case,
48:51
Speaker 1: but nothing conclusive e merged. But despite these hurdles, the
48:54
Speaker 1: police did their best for the era and they managed
48:57
Speaker 1: to produce a list of hypothesized suspects and motives that
49:00
Speaker 1: covers a spectrum of possibilities from family secrets to random drifters.
49:05
Speaker 1: But no one was ever charged, and the investigatory groundwork
49:08
Speaker 1: allows us to explore the major theories that arose, each
49:11
Speaker 1: with its own fascinating, if unproven story. So over the decades,
49:16
Speaker 1: the hinter Kaifak murders have generated many theories and suspects,
49:20
Speaker 1: and theory one being family member incest cover up motivation
49:25
Speaker 1: to conceal or avenge the incestuous relationship between Andreas Kruber
49:29
Speaker 1: and his daughter Victoria. The idea is that the murders
49:32
Speaker 1: were driven by disgust or rage over the family's dark
49:35
Speaker 1: secret of incest, perhaps to prevent it from becoming public
49:39
Speaker 1: or continuing. And this theory posts either a family member
49:42
Speaker 1: or someone very close to the family as the killer,
49:45
Speaker 1: since all immediate family members except the victims are dead.
49:49
Speaker 1: The primary suspect in Whispers was Carl Gabriel, which was
49:52
Speaker 1: Victoria's husband, who, if alive, would technically be family by marriage.
49:58
Speaker 1: But Carl had reported he died in World War One,
50:01
Speaker 1: but some speculated he actually survived and returned for revenge. Alternatively,
50:06
Speaker 1: some pointed to Lorenz, not a blood relative but intimately
50:10
Speaker 1: involved with the family, as someone who might have wanted
50:13
Speaker 1: to hush up a scandal, especially if baby Joseph truly
50:17
Speaker 1: was Andreas's son and not his. And another angle considered
50:20
Speaker 1: whether Andreas Kruber himself could have killed his family in
50:24
Speaker 1: a twisted quote, if I can't have them, no one
50:27
Speaker 1: can scenario relating to Victoria. But this just collapses since
50:31
Speaker 1: Andreas was himself killed and there was zero evidence of
50:35
Speaker 1: murder slewer slide, and there were two is that it
50:38
Speaker 1: was a neighbor or it was a local dispute, maybe
50:42
Speaker 1: a bitter personal dispute with the family. Whether from jealousy, revenge,
50:47
Speaker 1: or anger, possibly related to property, money, or relationships, and
50:51
Speaker 1: this often centers around Lorenz, the neighboring farmer who had
50:55
Speaker 1: a complex history with Victoria and Andreas. So Lorenz is
50:58
Speaker 1: again a chief suspect in this theory. And as a
51:01
Speaker 1: neighbor in a small community of Kaifek, Lorenz knew the
51:05
Speaker 1: groups very very well, and he also knew the area
51:07
Speaker 1: very very well and the schedules of people and what
51:10
Speaker 1: happened and everything. And Lorenz had disputes with Andreas and Victoria,
51:14
Speaker 1: and some say that Lorenz and Andreas often argued over
51:17
Speaker 1: field boundaries or Andreas's treatment of Victoria. And if not
51:21
Speaker 1: Lorenz himself, the suspect would be someone local with a grudge,
51:25
Speaker 1: as Andreas did have a rather difficult personality, but no
51:29
Speaker 1: other neighbor had a clear motive or close involvement that
51:32
Speaker 1: we know of, and the police questioned Lorenz extensively and
51:36
Speaker 1: even reportedly took him into custody at one point, but
51:40
Speaker 1: they never found concrete evidence to indict him, and his
51:43
Speaker 1: calm demeter at the scene could be attributed to shock
51:46
Speaker 1: or a pragmatic farm life attitude, and Lorenzo also successfully
51:50
Speaker 1: sued several people for slander who openly called him the murderer,
51:54
Speaker 1: and he maintained his innocence up to his death in
51:57
Speaker 1: nineteen forty one and decades later, the two thousand and
51:59
Speaker 1: seven Police Academy review of the case indicted they had
52:03
Speaker 1: a prime suspect who, out of the respect for living relatives,
52:06
Speaker 1: they wouldn't name, and though not officially confirmed, many believe
52:10
Speaker 1: that this was a reference to Lorenz being the murderer. Thus,
52:14
Speaker 1: the vengeful neighbor theory remains one of the strongest in
52:17
Speaker 1: the public's minds because if anyone Lorenz had motive, whether
52:22
Speaker 1: the paternity, dispute, resentment, or jealousy, and he also had
52:26
Speaker 1: knowledge and proximity and perhaps the personality to commit such
52:31
Speaker 1: a crime and then coolly manage the aftermath. But again
52:35
Speaker 1: we don't know that for sure, and that is just
52:37
Speaker 1: an alleged theory. And then theory three is the mysterious
52:41
Speaker 1: stranger of motivation, and that is that it was just
52:43
Speaker 1: a violent, random impulse by an outsider, possibly a deranged
52:47
Speaker 1: transient and escaped convict or a serial killer who stumbled
52:53
Speaker 1: upon the farm and took the opportunity to kill and
52:55
Speaker 1: the suspect wasn't necessarily one single person, but rather the
52:58
Speaker 1: idea that one or more unknown assailants with no personal
53:02
Speaker 1: connection to the Grivers committed the murders, and some have
53:05
Speaker 1: suggested this could have been a drifter with military background
53:09
Speaker 1: given the precision of the killings, or even a known
53:12
Speaker 1: serial murderer from abroad, and a modern variant of this
53:15
Speaker 1: theory is that it was the work of Paul Mueller,
53:18
Speaker 1: a German American serial killer positioned by authors Bill James
53:22
Speaker 1: and Rachel McCarthy James to have murdered dozens of families
53:25
Speaker 1: in the early nineteen hundreds, including the infamous Veliska axe
53:29
Speaker 1: murders in the US, and Mueller, they suggest, may have
53:33
Speaker 1: returned to Europe and continued his bloody trail with hinter
53:36
Speaker 1: Kaifek fitting his mo O, and initially police did suspect
53:40
Speaker 1: vagrants or roaming criminals. There were reports around the time
53:43
Speaker 1: of two suspicious figures seen near the woods around hinter
53:46
Speaker 1: Kaifak on the night of April first. In fact, a
53:49
Speaker 1: butcher named Simon Ricelander saw two strangers at the forest
53:53
Speaker 1: edge who turned away to hide their faces when spotted
53:57
Speaker 1: just fueling speculation they might have been the murderers fleeing
54:00
Speaker 1: the scene. However, no one knew who those men were
54:04
Speaker 1: and they never came forward. But what lends some credence
54:07
Speaker 1: to the stranger theory is the similarity of the crime
54:11
Speaker 1: to the other family massacres, because in the US between
54:14
Speaker 1: nineteen eleven and nineteen twelve, a spat of farm family
54:17
Speaker 1: axe murders occurred near rare lines, for example the Veliska
54:21
Speaker 1: case and the Iowa case, where entire families were blenchened
54:25
Speaker 1: within axe at night by an intruder who often lived
54:29
Speaker 1: in their house for a short time, just like hinter Kaifek.
54:33
Speaker 1: So also a Criminal Minds episode on this This one
54:35
Speaker 1: is like burned into my brain and I can never
54:37
Speaker 1: rewatch it. And at the Veliska crime scene and the
54:39
Speaker 1: Iowa crime scene there are a lot of parallels. There's
54:43
Speaker 1: isolation of the victim's use of farm tool weapons, stacking bodies,
54:47
Speaker 1: not stealing valuables, possibly driven by psycho sexual motive. And
54:51
Speaker 1: they theorized that Mueller killed families with prepubescent girls present
54:56
Speaker 1: due to the twisted attraction. In hinter Kaifek indeed had
55:00
Speaker 1: a young girl victim and the author's rate. The chance
55:03
Speaker 1: that Mueller was the hinter Kaifak killer as a quote
55:06
Speaker 1: toss up possible but not provable, and another stranger suspect
55:11
Speaker 1: proposed was an unnamed thief or convict who had learned
55:14
Speaker 1: of the farm's reputed wealth, and according to the count,
55:17
Speaker 1: a man named Peter Webber had in nineteen nineteen told
55:20
Speaker 1: fellow laborer Joseph Betts about a remote farm with an
55:24
Speaker 1: old couple, hinting they could rob it easily, even suggesting
55:28
Speaker 1: killing the old man, Andreas for his money, but Bets
55:31
Speaker 1: didn't bite at the offer, but later testified about Weber's statements.
55:35
Speaker 1: Perhaps Weber or an associate decided to carry out this
55:38
Speaker 1: plan later on. However, if robbery was the intent, not
55:42
Speaker 1: taking the money undermines that idea completely, and I don't
55:45
Speaker 1: really buy that idea, but as possible, I guess that
55:47
Speaker 1: the crime started as a burglary but escalated to murder,
55:51
Speaker 1: and the panicked thief left without looting. I guess, but
55:55
Speaker 1: the methodical staying on the farm argued against a panicked exit,
55:59
Speaker 1: so I think that one doesn't fit at all. But
56:02
Speaker 1: the serial killer one could work. It absolutely could work.
56:07
Speaker 1: I have no idea and theory four was inheritance because
56:10
Speaker 1: there was potential suspects who included people who knew the
56:13
Speaker 1: family and who also knew the family had money and
56:16
Speaker 1: would gain financially from their deaths. And this ranges from
56:19
Speaker 1: opportunistic criminals to extended family or even acquaintances. And a
56:23
Speaker 1: few names emerged from this. One was the uh Bickler
56:27
Speaker 1: brothers Anton and Carl, and a man named Gyorg Siegel
56:31
Speaker 1: were implicated by former maid presense Rager, the one that
56:35
Speaker 1: left because she heard footsteps in the attic, and Anton
56:39
Speaker 1: had worked on the farm and allegedly said the family
56:42
Speaker 1: quote ought to be dead, possibly eyeing their money. And
56:46
Speaker 1: the maid noted that the normally vicious farm dog never
56:48
Speaker 1: barked at Anton, implying he could move about the farm
56:52
Speaker 1: without alarming the family or the dog. And she also
56:55
Speaker 1: recounted a night when a stranger whom she thought was Carl,
56:59
Speaker 1: talked to her through a window. So the Becklers and
57:01
Speaker 1: Segel were suspected of plotting a robbery, knowing the farm
57:04
Speaker 1: layout and fortune, and Segul in fact allegedly stole some
57:08
Speaker 1: small items from the farm in nineteen twenty and knew
57:11
Speaker 1: Andreas kept money in the house, and he also claimed
57:14
Speaker 1: to have carved the very wooden handle of the mattock
57:17
Speaker 1: years before, knowing it was kept in the barn passage.
57:21
Speaker 1: But despite the suspicious indicators, there was no direct evidence
57:24
Speaker 1: tying them to the murder that night. Anton and Carl
57:27
Speaker 1: Bickler had criminal reputations for theft, but no charges for
57:31
Speaker 1: the murders. Stuck and the Thaler brothers, Joseph and Andreas
57:35
Speaker 1: were two local troublemakers known for burglaries, and the same
57:39
Speaker 1: former made recalled that Yoseph Faylor once stood outside her
57:43
Speaker 1: window asking about which family members slept where and boasting
57:47
Speaker 1: he knew that they had a lot of money, which
57:49
Speaker 1: is creepy, and also people apparently liked talking to this
57:52
Speaker 1: former maid through her window a lot, which is weird.
57:55
Speaker 1: But she suspected that the Failers might have spied on
57:57
Speaker 1: the farm and conspired to rob it, and when she
58:00
Speaker 1: didn't answer Joseph's question, she noticed another person's silhouette near
58:04
Speaker 1: the machine house, suggesting Joseph wasn't alone. And like the Bicklers,
58:08
Speaker 1: the Failers were investigated but never formally accused due to
58:12
Speaker 1: zero evidence, and then there was extended family because Andrea,
58:15
Speaker 1: since that Celia Grubber had surviving relatives like Andreas's a
58:19
Speaker 1: strange brothers or distant kin, and Victoria's in laws, the Gabriels,
58:23
Speaker 1: but none appeared to have had a clear claim or
58:26
Speaker 1: interest in the estate. But it wasn't fully ruled out
58:29
Speaker 1: that a relative might have wanted to gain inheritance or
58:34
Speaker 1: settle a familial grudge, and ultimately no extended family members
58:38
Speaker 1: were implicated in the murders. But each theory mentioned has
58:41
Speaker 1: its allure and its flaws, and to date, no theory
58:44
Speaker 1: has emerged that satisfies all of the facts conclusively, and
58:48
Speaker 1: most researchers leaned toward a personal motive, hence suspects like
58:52
Speaker 1: Lorenz or someone close because of the nature of the crime.
58:56
Speaker 1: But the lack of closure means every theory from neighbor
58:59
Speaker 1: to the drifter remains on the table in the public imagination.
59:03
Speaker 1: But like I said in two thousand and seven, they
59:05
Speaker 1: reopened the case and they found a pretty good suspect,
59:09
Speaker 1: but they ultimately did not publish the name, citing respect
59:12
Speaker 1: for living relatives of the suspect, and this discretion strongly
59:16
Speaker 1: suggests that the suspect was a local person whose family
59:19
Speaker 1: still resides in the area, and it's widely inferred that
59:23
Speaker 1: the suspect was Lorentz or someone similarly close by given
59:27
Speaker 1: that profile. So essentially, the two thousand and seven review
59:30
Speaker 1: privately solved the case to their own satisfaction, but without
59:34
Speaker 1: any new hard evidence, it remains an educated conclusion rather
59:39
Speaker 1: than a prosecutable finding, so it's still unsolved technically. Essentially,
59:44
Speaker 1: they're just making a pretty good scientific guess, but that
59:47
Speaker 1: does not mean it solved. So in the absence of
59:50
Speaker 1: any sort of official resolution, the hinter Kaifak murders have
59:53
Speaker 1: passed into legend as a cautionary tale of an unsolved crime,
59:57
Speaker 1: and the Gruber and Gabriel family members were aid to
1:00:00
Speaker 1: rest in a cemetery in Wadhofn, and their grave became
1:00:04
Speaker 1: something of a local shrine, bearing a simple memorial marker
1:00:08
Speaker 1: with an inscription, while notably their skulls never returned and
1:00:12
Speaker 1: the farm itself no longer exists and it was leveled
1:00:14
Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty three, and today only a small shrine
1:00:17
Speaker 1: with a cross stands near the site, known as the
1:00:20
Speaker 1: hinter Kaifek Memorial, and for decades villagers would visit it
1:00:24
Speaker 1: to pay respects and ponder the mystery, and I think
1:00:27
Speaker 1: a mystery it will remain. Just all we can do
1:00:31
Speaker 1: is remember the lives that were lost and sending all
1:00:35
Speaker 1: the love and prayers to relatives of these people. But
1:00:38
Speaker 1: with that, that is the hinter Kaifek case. A lot
1:00:42
Speaker 1: of you recommended this case. I always do videos which
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Speaker 1: you guys recommend, so let me know what other cases
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Speaker 1: you want me to go over down below. I've been
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Speaker 1: really liking going, you know, around the world and kind
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Speaker 1: of getting out of the states in Canada and stuff.
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Speaker 1: So if you have any more international cases, I think
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Speaker 1: that is awesome. And local cases are good too, especially
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Speaker 1: unsolved ones, because I think putting them back on the
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Speaker 1: map is really important. But with that, just please stay
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Speaker 1: safe out there and I will see you a beautiful
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Speaker 1: face in the next one, all right, Bye,