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Why Responding “I Don’t Care” Is Making Your Daughter Miserable · Raising Daughters

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Raising Daughters, the podcast that helps parents learn
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Speaker 1: the best ways to support their daughters as they navigate
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Speaker 1: the high levels of stress, anxiety, pressure, and uncertainties so
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Speaker 1: pervasive in our culture today. Doctor Tim Jordan is a
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Speaker 1: developmental and behavioral pediatrician who has specialized in counseling girls
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Speaker 1: for over thirty years and shed's light on the realities
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Speaker 1: of today's young women in all facets of their lives.
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Speaker 1: This is your opportunity to learn how to better support
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Speaker 1: your daughters, making them feel safe, secure, and truly loved
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Speaker 1: in the midst of life's ups and downs. Here is
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Speaker 1: your host, Doctor Tim.
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Speaker 2: Hello friends, doctor Tim Jordan here, welcome you back to
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Speaker 2: another episode of Raising Daughters. And this topic I'm gonna
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Speaker 2: talk about today is one that I bump into with
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Speaker 2: girls all the time. I wonder if you have a
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Speaker 2: daughter at home who when you ask them what they want,
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Speaker 2: or when their friends ask them what they want or
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Speaker 2: where they want to go, or they where they want
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Speaker 2: to go eat, or what movie they want to see?
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Speaker 2: How many of you have a daughter in your home
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Speaker 2: whose habitual knee jerk response tends to be, Oh, I
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Speaker 2: don't care whatever you want, or I don't know and
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Speaker 2: maybe I should even As just another way, how many
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Speaker 2: of you have a daughter in your house who tends
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Speaker 2: to put other people's needs before their own and oftentimes
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Speaker 2: don't take care of themselves. Then the final question before
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Speaker 2: I delve into this topic is how many of you moms,
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Speaker 2: especially listening to this podcast, suffer from the same phenomenon
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Speaker 2: where your knee jerk response tends to be I don't
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Speaker 2: know or I don't care, where you put other people's
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Speaker 2: needs before your own, and oftentimes that leads to an
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Speaker 2: even more detrimental belief, which is I shouldn't even have needs.
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Speaker 2: The biggest cost I see with girls who have that
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Speaker 2: knee jerk response when they're asked what they want, when
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Speaker 2: they say I don't know, I don't care, I think
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Speaker 2: maybe the biggest cost is they're teaching other people that
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Speaker 2: their opinions and their needs are not important, and therefore
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Speaker 2: they're not important. I can't tell you how many girls
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Speaker 2: I've seen in my counseling practice and my retreats, my camps,
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Speaker 2: all the places I work with girls. I cannot tell
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Speaker 2: you how many girls I see who struggle with that
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Speaker 2: they tend to put other people's needs before their own.
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Speaker 2: I think some of that is because of that that
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Speaker 2: recurrent good girl conditioning that we always hear about and
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Speaker 2: talk about, which is has become kind of a cliche,
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Speaker 2: but it's true. Girls today still have that sense of
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Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be a good girl who puts other
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Speaker 2: people's needs first, who takes care of everybody, who's supposed
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Speaker 2: to be always happy and helpful. Others needs are more
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Speaker 2: important than mine. All that stuff, all that conditioning, if
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Speaker 2: you will, makes it harder for girls to break free
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Speaker 2: from that and to be assertive. Also, girls have learned,
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Speaker 2: by conditioning and also by the way that they've been parented,
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Speaker 2: to make decisions based upon not going to disappoint people
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Speaker 2: or to please other people. That becomes more important than
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Speaker 2: them getting what they want or what they need. There's
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Speaker 2: reasons why the girls do that. Sometimes there's something going
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Speaker 2: on in the home that's a really common one that
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Speaker 2: I see. Like, for instance, I saw a girl oh
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Speaker 2: several weeks ago, I'll call her Miya, But she has
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Speaker 2: an older sister who has had problems with drug addiction,
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Speaker 2: and the parents keep finding pot and things in their home.
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Speaker 2: There's arguments, fights, blow ups. This girl blows up, leaves
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Speaker 2: the house, doesn't come back for a day. One time,
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Speaker 2: the police were called. So this girl, the younger girl,
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Speaker 2: my patient Mia, has been watching all of that, and
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Speaker 2: of course she does not want to do what her
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Speaker 2: sister's been doing because she sees the effect on her
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Speaker 2: sister and her parents, and she sees the stress that's
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Speaker 2: going on within her parents and in the house, and
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Speaker 2: in her mind, she says to herself, my parents have
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Speaker 2: so much on their plate, and so I don't want
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Speaker 2: to add one more thing that might tip them over
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Speaker 2: the edge. So I'll just keep my needs and my
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Speaker 2: feelings and my troubles to myself. My parents have way
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Speaker 2: too much going on already. That's so common. I've seen
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Speaker 2: lots of girls in my counseling practice with siblings who
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Speaker 2: have autism or any kind of issue that causes a
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Speaker 2: lot of attention from the parents. Are Sometimes it's just
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Speaker 2: anything that can cause distraction in the home, like for instance,
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Speaker 2: the parents fighting, having marriage problems, arguing, fighting, And the
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Speaker 2: girls look at all that and they say, my parents
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Speaker 2: are so stressed out. Again, I don't want to add
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Speaker 2: to their plate, And so they keep their troubles to themselves.
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Speaker 2: They don't ask for what they they want, they don't
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Speaker 2: express what they need. Another cost to the girls who
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Speaker 2: do all that is that they become resentful because they're
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Speaker 2: not getting what they want, They're not getting their needs met,
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Speaker 2: and that can lead to resentment. It also can lead
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Speaker 2: sometimes if that pattern goes on for a while, which
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Speaker 2: oftentimes it does, it can lead to them forgetting what
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Speaker 2: they want, forgetting what their needs are because they've spent
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Speaker 2: so much time running from them and worrying more about
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Speaker 2: other people. A lot of girls I notice also have
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Speaker 2: a hard time making decisions they could. They spend so
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Speaker 2: much energy trying to figure out how their parents will respond,
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Speaker 2: how their friends will respond. They worry so much about
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Speaker 2: the other person that they oftentimes either don't ask for
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Speaker 2: what they want or they don't make a decision. They
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Speaker 2: spend too much time and energy trying to please others,
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Speaker 2: not disappoint people. They make decisions to avoid content to
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Speaker 2: be l liked. I read a book a few years
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Speaker 2: ago called the Likability Factor. They don't want to make waves.
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Speaker 2: That's one of those good girl things. Don't make waves,
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Speaker 2: don't stand out, don't look different, conform it's important to
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Speaker 2: be likable. They also may fear other people's reaction. They
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Speaker 2: fear sometimes if they say what they want their their
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Speaker 2: friend or the other person will be angry, and so
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Speaker 2: to avoid that, they just say I don't know or
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Speaker 2: I don't care. I also find this sometimes unknowingly that
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Speaker 2: parents have added to this issue. Sometimes there's a clash
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Speaker 2: within the girls, an internal clash, if you will, between
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Speaker 2: attachment and authenticity. You know, attachment meaning I want to
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Speaker 2: be loved, I want to be taken care of. Authenticity
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Speaker 2: is I want to be myself. I want to have
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Speaker 2: my own opinions. I want to shape my own future.
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Speaker 2: I want to be able to say what I want
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Speaker 2: and do what I want and take care of myself.
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Speaker 2: And sometimes those clash because what may happen in the
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Speaker 2: home is if a child disagrees with their parents or
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Speaker 2: has a different opinion. And sometimes the girls will tell
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Speaker 2: me they feel like their parents will withdraw their love.
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Speaker 2: Parents get angry, parents act disappointed. It's that reaction that
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Speaker 2: they give from their parents that may cause them to
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Speaker 2: believe I don't think it's true necessarily, but makes them
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Speaker 2: believe that if I don't go along, if I don't conform,
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Speaker 2: if I don't do what my parents want all the time.
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Speaker 2: If I don't share my parents' opinions, then they will
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Speaker 2: withdraw their love. And of course, if that's the clash internally,
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Speaker 2: guess which one they're gonna pick. They're gonna pick, They're
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Speaker 2: gonna pick attachment. So I'm willing to give up who
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Speaker 2: I am. I'm willing to give up being different. I'm
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Speaker 2: willing to give up my authenticity because I want to
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Speaker 2: fit into my family. I want to be loved and
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Speaker 2: taken care of. And that's that's been that's been wired
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Speaker 2: into us. You know, we're we're wired to survive, and
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Speaker 2: so attachment will always trump authenticity in those situations. So
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Speaker 2: I'd be very aware of how you treat your daughter
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Speaker 2: when she has a different opinion or want they dress
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Speaker 2: a little differently than you want her to dress as,
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Speaker 2: different interests, different goals, and you want her to have,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. So there's a huge cost to girls when
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Speaker 2: they don't ask for what they want. There's a there's
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Speaker 2: a huge cost to girls when they have a knee
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Speaker 2: jerk reaction if I don't know, I don't care. In
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Speaker 2: order to not make people upset, to avoid conflict, to
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Speaker 2: please people, to not to support you all. All of
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Speaker 2: that I mentioned those costs a big cost. So what
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Speaker 2: what can you do as a parent of a daughter
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Speaker 2: like that or for yourself? What I do with girls
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Speaker 2: a lot is I have them do some experiments, and
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Speaker 2: I fell them to start with people that you don't
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Speaker 2: know very well, people that you probably will never see again,
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Speaker 2: for instance, a waitress in a restaurant, because they may
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Speaker 2: be afraid, you know, even to order things because they're
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Speaker 2: worried about the reaction. I was actually one of those people.
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Speaker 2: I grew up in a home where conformity was important,
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Speaker 2: and if you had a different opinion, oftentimes it got
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Speaker 2: shut down because there was one way to do things
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Speaker 2: and one way to look at things, and that was
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Speaker 2: my parents of my parents' way. So I learned to
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Speaker 2: kind of shut that part down anyway. So what I
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Speaker 2: started doing was I would start, like in a restaurant,
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Speaker 2: So if a waitress came by and said, you know,
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Speaker 2: what do you want to order? I would say, well, actually,
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Speaker 2: I know she has spaghetti on your menu, but what
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Speaker 2: I like is the gluten free number one. And also
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Speaker 2: I like the little kapaline, the little skinny spaghetti. Now
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Speaker 2: as I start to ask what I want my wife
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Speaker 2: starts to cover her eyes and cringe because she sort
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Speaker 2: of has this issue a little bit too, because she's
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Speaker 2: a woman, and many women do. And I'll even say
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Speaker 2: things like, also, I love black olives. Do you have
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Speaker 2: black elves? Can put some of those on there? Alex
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Speaker 2: sundried tomatoes? Can you also add some of that? I
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Speaker 2: start adding to and making my own little concoction, and
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Speaker 2: the waiter is busily busily writing all this down. And
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Speaker 2: so my old fear was a waitress is gonna be mad.
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Speaker 2: She's gonna be thinking, who is this guy so selfish?
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Speaker 2: She's so self centered. Whatever, She's gonna walk back in
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Speaker 2: the kitchen and she's gonna tell people what a jerk
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Speaker 2: out there at table three, and they're gonna be spitting
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Speaker 2: in my food. That's my old belief system. So my
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Speaker 2: experiment was I would ask what I wanted as clearly
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Speaker 2: as I could and where I then I would see
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Speaker 2: the reaction. I would see what happened, because what would
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Speaker 2: happen was the waitress would bring my food. I loved it.
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Speaker 2: It was just what I wanted. I was happy, I
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Speaker 2: gave a big tip, she was happy. Everybody was okay.
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Speaker 2: Nobody exploded. The world didn't end because I asked for
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Speaker 2: what I wanted. And so I tell girls start doing
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Speaker 2: experiments like that where they start to slowly but surely
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Speaker 2: ask for what they want, have an opinion with their friends,
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Speaker 2: and then notice the reaction and nine nine times out
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Speaker 2: of one hundred, people are great. They don't really care.
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Speaker 2: There is no none of this huge disappointment at all,
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Speaker 2: because most people are pretty amenable. I tell them, if
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Speaker 2: you have a friend who gets bent out of shape
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Speaker 2: because you ask what you want, then you might want
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Speaker 2: to start thinking about is this really a good friend?
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Speaker 2: Because if my friend can't have the space to allow
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Speaker 2: me to ask for what I want and to have
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Speaker 2: an opinion, she's just teaching me something about the level
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Speaker 2: of friend that she is. Just means she's not a
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Speaker 2: good friend, that's all, if she doesn't have space for
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Speaker 2: you to also ask for what you want. So I
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Speaker 2: tell girls, if someone asks you the question, you know,
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Speaker 2: where do you want to go tonight? Or what movie
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Speaker 2: do you want to see? Here? Where do you want
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Speaker 2: to go eat? Or whatever the question may be, if
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Speaker 2: they get that first little tightness in their chest which says, oh,
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Speaker 2: here we go again, be careful, I tell them to
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Speaker 2: know what is it? Just notice calmly and compassionately. Don't
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Speaker 2: get mad at yourself. Just help. There's that little feeling again.
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's interesting how it comes up so quick.
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Speaker 2: And maybe even tell your friend can you give me
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Speaker 2: a second? I gotta go grab something and then go
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Speaker 2: sit in the bathroom, go someplace, take a little break
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Speaker 2: and check in and ask yourself a question, what do
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Speaker 2: I want? If I could push aside all these fears
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Speaker 2: about making people mad and disappointing people and people liking
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Speaker 2: me and all that stuff, I can push all that
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Speaker 2: aside just for a moment, what do I want? And
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Speaker 2: then get clear about that. Then you walk back to
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Speaker 2: your friends say, by the way, I think what I
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Speaker 2: would like to do is blank, And then again in
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Speaker 2: your experiment, knows the response and a good pharmise that
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Speaker 2: would be like great, Nothing happens again, and so you
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Speaker 2: start reteaching your friends that your needs are also important.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean every time that you insist you have
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Speaker 2: to have your way. Somebody wants to be friends with
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Speaker 2: someone like that. What it means, though, is that you
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Speaker 2: can't get a win win with anyone unless you put
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Speaker 2: your needs out there as well as listening to their needs.
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Speaker 2: That's how you create a good win win. It's both
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Speaker 2: people are aware of their needs the other person's needs.
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Speaker 2: You mix them together and say, how can we make
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Speaker 2: a decision so both of our needs are met. It
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Speaker 2: might be that I get where I want this time,
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Speaker 2: but how about next time? Then you get a chance
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Speaker 2: to pick the restaurant. But that will never happen unless
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Speaker 2: you learn to put your needs out there, so reframing
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Speaker 2: your old beliefs about the need to please everyone to
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Speaker 2: not disappoint people, the need to fit in. Also, I
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Speaker 2: also have noticed in my in my retreating camps, WI
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Speaker 2: do you exercise sometimes teaching girls about the difference between
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Speaker 2: being assertive versus aggressive, because most girls, in my experience
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Speaker 2: don't know the difference, and they've learned through the good
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Speaker 2: girl conditioning in the culture. They've learned that if you
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Speaker 2: ask for what you want, if you're assertive, that people
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Speaker 2: will start labeling you as being aggressive the B word. Women,
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Speaker 2: even in the workforce, get that labeling, and so they
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Speaker 2: have a belief system that says that that I don't
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Speaker 2: want to be labeled that way, and so we'll do
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Speaker 2: role plays. But We'll give them situations and have them
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Speaker 2: role play. How could you handle this aggressively? How could
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Speaker 2: you handle it assertively and then notice the difference. They
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Speaker 2: need some examples, They need to role play, they need
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Speaker 2: the language, and they need the permission that says it's
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Speaker 2: good for you to be assertive. It's good for you
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Speaker 2: to be assertive and put yourself out there. I've also
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Speaker 2: found that girls are much more likely to do what
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Speaker 2: I'm suggesting. They're much more likely to start asking for
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Speaker 2: what they want if they have a high level of deserveability,
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Speaker 2: if they have a high level of self love, if
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Speaker 2: they love and appreciate who they are, They're much more
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Speaker 2: likely to stand up for themselves, ask for what they want,
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Speaker 2: be assertive, put their needs out there. They also need
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Speaker 2: some reframing that even though there may be some trouble
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Speaker 2: in your family because your sister has an addiction problem
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Speaker 2: and there's some unrest, it doesn't mean your parents don't
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Speaker 2: have time for you in your troubles. You might have
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Speaker 2: to pick your spots. You need to be sensitive. But
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Speaker 2: but but it's your parents' responsibility to be there for
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Speaker 2: you and also to find other people if your parents.
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Speaker 2: There are certain times when your parents may be overwhelmed,
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Speaker 2: they're an overload, and there are hopefully grandparents, aunts, uncles, coaches, teachers,
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Speaker 2: there's other people. Are camp counselors for some of the
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Speaker 2: girls fill that role. Sometimes you look outside the family
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Speaker 2: for support or going to a counselor like me, to
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Speaker 2: get some support. I want to reframe that part about
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Speaker 2: saying that that your parents don't have the time and
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Speaker 2: the space for your needs as well. They may not
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Speaker 2: in one particular moment, but the bigger picture of your
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Speaker 2: home life they do. And I want them to know
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Speaker 2: what's going on for you. I don't want them to
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Speaker 2: know if you're struggling. I want you to be able
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Speaker 2: to ask for support, ask for feedback, all those kinds
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Speaker 2: of things. They also need some reframing about that it's
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Speaker 2: good that good girl conditioning is so unhealthy. They don't
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Speaker 2: know that, so they need to that needs to be
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Speaker 2: brought to their awareness that always being liked and taking
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Speaker 2: care of everybody else before you, and not standing out
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Speaker 2: and not being assertive and and all those kinds of
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Speaker 2: things are unhealthy, even though that's what the culture has
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Speaker 2: sort of been conditioning you. They need some reframing of
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Speaker 2: all those kinds of thoughts and beliefs. It makes it
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Speaker 2: easier for them to step up and start setting boundaries,
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Speaker 2: asking for what they want, and get out of that
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Speaker 2: habit of saying I don't know, I don't care. It
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Speaker 2: helps a lot if you model that. If they see
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Speaker 2: that you are at asking for what you want, if
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Speaker 2: they see you not overly taking care of everyone without
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Speaker 2: taking care of yourself as well, they see you taking
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Speaker 2: care of your needs, that's really important, and even vocalize that,
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Speaker 2: talk about it, bring it to the surface. You may
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Speaker 2: have struggled with it a different time in your life.
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Speaker 2: Let your daughter know about that and what you did
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Speaker 2: to overcome it so that you could not be a
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Speaker 2: wash in resentments on happiness. When girls start to ask
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Speaker 2: for what they want and they know what they want
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Speaker 2: and they put it out there, they're so much more
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Speaker 2: confident and they're so much happier. They have a lot
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Speaker 2: more energy because they're not spending so much worrying about
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Speaker 2: other people and their needs and how are they thinking
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Speaker 2: and how are they feeling and taking responsibility for everyone's
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Speaker 2: feelings as opposed to I just need to take care
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Speaker 2: of my own. So model that so your daughters see it,
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Speaker 2: do some role playing, give them some words so that
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Speaker 2: they have the ability out in the real world to
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Speaker 2: do that for themselves. I hope this helps. This is
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Speaker 2: a really unhealthy pattern I see in so many girls
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Speaker 2: and also their moms. It can be a male thing
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Speaker 2: as well, but I think girls and the good girl
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Speaker 2: conditioning is is a little bit different than what men
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Speaker 2: have experienced in general. So our daughters need they need
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Speaker 2: some help with that. So listen to this podcast with them.
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Speaker 2: Provoke some discussion and conversation about this with them. Maybe
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Speaker 2: have them do some role playing with you, make some
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Speaker 2: commitments to do some experiments, check in with them, see
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Speaker 2: how they see what the response was, and support them
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Speaker 2: through this process of learning how to be assertive and
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Speaker 2: to take care of themselves. I will be back here
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Speaker 2: as always in a week with a brand new podcast.
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Speaker 2: I hope these are helpful to you. If you have questions,
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Speaker 2: by the way, I want you to email them to
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Speaker 2: my wife A and E at d R tim Jordan
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Speaker 2: dot com and to get to start out on this process.
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Speaker 2: I got an email from a listener and she asked
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Speaker 2: a really interesting question, so I thought would answer her
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Speaker 2: question on this podcast. I will do one on each
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Speaker 2: of the podcasts answer a question that comes through so again,
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Speaker 2: email my wife Ann at Dr tim Jordan dot com.
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Speaker 2: This woman said she when she grew up, her family
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Speaker 2: went through a divorce her parents did and it was
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Speaker 2: hard for her on her as a child, heart on
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Speaker 2: the family. So now she's married, has a daughter and
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Speaker 2: she doesn't want to repeat that patterns and she's got
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Speaker 2: a healthy marriage according to her, but she's worried about
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Speaker 2: as her daughter gets older and as she approaches a
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Speaker 2: teen year she doesn't want to mix up her story
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Speaker 2: too much in her daughter's story. She said, I want
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Speaker 2: I Sometimes I feel unsure because I never have I've
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Speaker 2: never seen a girl grow up in the stable home
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Speaker 2: like her. I only knew chaos. So how do I
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Speaker 2: parent a child whose struggles won't look like mine? How
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Speaker 2: do I learn to see and support her reality was
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Speaker 2: so different from what I lived? And I answered her
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Speaker 2: with an email. But what I said to her was,
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Speaker 2: first of all, I love how self aware she is,
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Speaker 2: and that's the most important thing. She's not just unconsciously
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Speaker 2: sort of going to pass on those things. She is
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Speaker 2: very consciously wanted to do it different. She's very consciously
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Speaker 2: thinking about not passing that on to her daughter. That's
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Speaker 2: the most important first step, I think. And also I
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Speaker 2: think she can check in with her daughter as she
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Speaker 2: gets older and let her know what she just said
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Speaker 2: in that email, which is I worry sometimes about putting
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Speaker 2: some of my old feelings and my old stories into yours,
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Speaker 2: and I don't want to do that. So if you
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Speaker 2: ever feel like I'm overreacting to something, just very kindly
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Speaker 2: and patiently say, Mom, I think this doesn't belong to me.
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Speaker 2: Just give you a quick check because sometimes we're not
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Speaker 2: aware of it, of what we're passing on. So I
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Speaker 2: would I would, I wouldn't ask your daughter every day,
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Speaker 2: am I doing a good job? And by putting my
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Speaker 2: story into yours, I wouldn't have all the time. But
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Speaker 2: I think you can periodically check in. And I think
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Speaker 2: it'd be good for this mom to do her own journaling,
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Speaker 2: maybe counseling, to make sure that she starts to take
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Speaker 2: care of some of those old feelings and some of
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Speaker 2: the old trauma that she went through, Because if we
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Speaker 2: don't take care of our old traumas and the emotions
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Speaker 2: around that and the beliefs we create around those traumas,
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Speaker 2: if we don't take the time to work through those.
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Speaker 2: We will tend to recreate that in our present day
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Speaker 2: lives as adults in some way, shape or form. So
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Speaker 2: whether it's through journaling, counseling, something would I would make
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Speaker 2: sure she. I would make sure any of you who
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Speaker 2: have been through some traumatic things growing up, you take
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Speaker 2: the time to take care of that. When parents ask
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Speaker 2: me sometimes what's the number one thing you would suggest
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Speaker 2: as a parent? It'll help me become a really good
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Speaker 2: parent or stay a good parent. One of the most
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Speaker 2: important things I tell them is do personal growth. If
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Speaker 2: you need to clean out things that otherwise might get
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Speaker 2: in the way of you parenting the way you want.
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Speaker 2: And a lot of it stuff is unconscious until you
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Speaker 2: bring it to the service and actively consciously look at it.
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Speaker 2: So thank you very much for that reader or that listener.
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Speaker 2: Excuse me for sending that email. And you send some
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Speaker 2: questions that every week in my podcast I'll answer one.
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Speaker 2: I'll be back here in a week with a brand
22:30
Speaker 2: new podcast. Look for my new book that came out
22:34
Speaker 2: about a month ago, Keeping your Family Grounded when You're
22:37
Speaker 2: Flying by the seat of your Pants. It's a revised,
22:39
Speaker 2: updated edition with four or five brand new chapters. You
22:43
Speaker 2: can find that on Amazon any place you get books,
22:45
Speaker 2: and you can also find it on our website at
22:47
Speaker 2: Dr Tim Jordan dot com. I'll be back here with
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Speaker 2: a brand new topic in a week. I'll see you then.
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for stopping by.
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