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Ruth Michaelson: Guardian Journalist on the NATO alliance summit, Trump's comments around Greenland and selling fighter jets to Turkey · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: It's head to Turkey and NATO's summit taking place there.
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  Speaker 1: Trump telling the Europeans, you need me more than I
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  Speaker 1: need you.
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  Speaker 2: We did something in Iran. We don't need anybody's help.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even want their help. But before I asked,
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  Speaker 2: they said they wouldn't be there, And in a way,
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  Speaker 2: I was testing people. I was testing to see whether
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  Speaker 2: or not they'd be there, because as long said that,
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  Speaker 2: we help them, but I'm not sure that they'd be
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  Speaker 2: there for us.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Ruth Michaelson, who is a
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  Speaker 1: Turkey based journalist for The Guardian at the summit with us.
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  Speaker 1: Nice to have you on the program. Ruth, how's the
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  Speaker 1: reaction been so far on what Trump's been saying?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think it's probably fair to say
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  Speaker 3: that a lot of this summit is that the mood
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  Speaker 3: is very much it's about keeping going with Trump happy
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  Speaker 3: one way or another, whether it's the very very warm
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  Speaker 3: welcome that he received from the Turkish president reget type
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  Speaker 3: ed one. You know all the statements we've heard coming
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  Speaker 3: from the Native Secretary General Mark Rutter about his sort
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  Speaker 3: of excitement to show Trump the progress towards three point
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  Speaker 3: five percent GDP on defense spending for NATO members, that
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  Speaker 3: progress that he wants to show Trump since the last summit, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: as we're starting to see some reactions from Trump's rather
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  Speaker 3: well from some of the statements that we had from
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump when he was sitting next to Erduin at
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  Speaker 3: a press conference where he began talking about Greenland and
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  Speaker 3: his desire to take control of Freeland. Again, some statements
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  Speaker 3: from the Danish leadership basically objecting to what Trump was saying,
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  Speaker 3: asking that allies respect Danish sovereignty, saying that Greenland does
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  Speaker 3: not for sale. But in terms of the rather warm
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  Speaker 3: statements that Trump has made about Dulin and his compared
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  Speaker 3: to as rather cold statements about NATA as a whole,
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  Speaker 3: I think a lot of the world leaders who are
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  Speaker 3: here at the summit have rather.
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  Speaker 1: Christ some of this in and some of the sentiment
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  Speaker 1: is it going to be backed up by action? In
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  Speaker 1: other words, is Trump going to sell fire digits to Turkey?
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  Speaker 1: That's what someone was riding in the Times this morning
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  Speaker 1: reporting that he's going to do. Is it true?
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  Speaker 3: Well, he said during this press conference that he would
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  Speaker 3: consider selling the S thirty five to Turkey, but that
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  Speaker 3: was also couched within a lot of very warm promises
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  Speaker 3: on also saying we don't think that from the Turkish
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  Speaker 3: point of view, they don't think that this is going
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  Speaker 3: to be an issue. So Trump certainly did everything that
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  Speaker 3: he could in public to say that he would move
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  Speaker 3: to have sanctions that have been in place on Turkey
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  Speaker 3: since twenty twenty. This is for Turkey's purchase of a
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  Speaker 3: Russian the cule system that is, from the US perspective,
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  Speaker 3: incompatible with obtaining a plane like the thirty five. Trump
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  Speaker 3: has said that he will, despite the objections of Congress,
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  Speaker 3: he will work to have those sanctions lifted. So certainly
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  Speaker 3: everything that he said would indicate that that he wants
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  Speaker 3: that sale to go ahead. Whether Congress and Washington will
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  Speaker 3: allow that is really another question.
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  Speaker 1: Ruth Michaelson that is our journalist at NATO in Turkey
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  Speaker 1: for The Guardian. For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge,
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