Latest / Parent's Talk with Francine Juhlin / EPISODE 2: Self-Reflection Through Art - Bridging the gap between parents and kids through creativity
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I him, Karen. I am an artist at heart, and
- 0:05Speaker 1: I am the founder of Paint your Essence and Paint
- 0:08Speaker 1: your Essence is a way of learning a little bit
- 0:11Speaker 1: about yourself through art and Paint your Essence has the
- 0:17Speaker 1: word paint in it, but you really can use anything
- 0:20Speaker 1: like some people write some people. I think creativity is everywhere,
- 0:25Speaker 1: and like I know people who are really creative with numbers.
- 0:29Speaker 1: I know people who are creative in their way they cook,
- 0:32Speaker 1: or the way they develop and make their own tea blends.
- 0:37Speaker 1: There's creative people in the way they do gardening. You know,
- 0:40Speaker 1: even the way you walk to the office, or you know,
- 0:43Speaker 1: it's just the way you exercise. So it depends on
- 0:46Speaker 1: what you consider your genius at I think that is
- 0:50Speaker 1: what you're creative. But so it's using all of that
- 0:56Speaker 1: and learning a little bit about your self by using.
- 1:01Speaker 2: That Welcome to Parents talk. We believe in nurturing strong
- 1:07Speaker 2: and confident kids today rather than fixing broken adults tomorrow.
- 1:16Speaker 1: When you know yourself and you know your choices and
- 1:19Speaker 1: you get to see life so differently, you get to
- 1:22Speaker 1: see life as what's possible instead of letting things get
- 1:27Speaker 1: in the way.
- 1:29Speaker 2: That's a beautiful sentiment for parents when they consider how
- 1:34Speaker 2: they interact with their children. Why would parents want to
- 1:40Speaker 2: get to know themselves better?
- 1:44Speaker 1: Well, I think it's important for anybody's life, whether you're
- 1:46Speaker 1: a parent or not, to tell you the truth, because
- 1:49Speaker 1: I'll go back to the beginning. It's like for me
- 1:52Speaker 1: when I learned to self growth. It was a struggle,
- 1:56Speaker 1: but you learn a little bit about yourself and even
- 2:00Speaker 1: at the stuff that you don't like. But there's ways
- 2:03Speaker 1: of learning that you have choices. You can choose to
- 2:06Speaker 1: look at something as an experience and figure out why
- 2:12Speaker 1: it happened, or you can choose to say, well that
- 2:14Speaker 1: person hurt me and blame you know, and then blame
- 2:17Speaker 1: them for everything and be on a victim triangle. So
- 2:20Speaker 1: I have found a way myself to learn a little
- 2:25Speaker 1: bit more about me because it helps me create a
- 2:32Speaker 1: life that is so much more fulfilling and so extraordinary
- 2:37Speaker 1: and so worth living a life that's full like that
- 2:41Speaker 1: is just so much more fun and playful, and I
- 2:46Speaker 1: think so much more happens for you in a good
- 2:48Speaker 1: way than in a bad way.
- 2:50Speaker 2: I love that you mentioned playful because I'm an advocate
- 2:55Speaker 2: for finding your inner child.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Yes, me too, And Once you.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Find your inner child, you will relate to other children,
- 3:08Speaker 2: not only other children as in youngsters, but other people
- 3:12Speaker 2: and their inner children. And I think I see the
- 3:18Speaker 2: light of the inner child more now than anything else
- 3:23Speaker 2: in a person. And that's what That's why I was
- 3:26Speaker 2: attracted to Karen in the first place when I met
- 3:29Speaker 2: her in a speaker summit, and why I asked her
- 3:33Speaker 2: to come and talk because I think our inner children
- 3:38Speaker 2: were speaking to each other.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I loved your butterfly. I think I didn't
- 3:45Speaker 1: realize that we were actually going to be doing this
- 3:47Speaker 1: today because like I don't have my art behavior or evening.
- 3:58Speaker 2: You tell us any the aha moments that people have
- 4:02Speaker 2: had during your classes.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Oh, I think there's been so many. I'm trying to
- 4:07Speaker 1: like like connect to some of them right now. Well, well,
- 4:13Speaker 1: without saying, uh, there's just been like there's someone who
- 4:21Speaker 1: I've had tears, and whenever I get tears, I feel
- 4:24Speaker 1: like I've done a good job. I mean, I hate
- 4:28Speaker 1: to say that, but at the same time, that means
- 4:31Speaker 1: they it touched them. I think it depends on the topic,
- 4:36Speaker 1: you know, because I do monthly sessions, and in inside
- 4:39Speaker 1: the monthly sessions, it's a specific topic and sometimes people
- 4:44Speaker 1: can go deep. I actually have I have one a
- 4:50Speaker 1: regular client who's a lawyer, and she was so right
- 4:54Speaker 1: brain and now she's left brain and she's really starting
- 4:57Speaker 1: to play with color and she's trying to see how
- 5:01Speaker 1: she's like shining and it's so different for her in
- 5:05Speaker 1: that realm to be more on the right side of
- 5:08Speaker 1: the brain and not be so rigid. So that's really cool.
- 5:13Speaker 1: I've had one person who learns so much more about
- 5:16Speaker 1: herself and found ways to be stronger. And actually a
- 5:24Speaker 1: couple of different people kind of like realized, you know,
- 5:27Speaker 1: looked at their relationships and realized that this wasn't the
- 5:31Speaker 1: right person for them, and they've broken away from them
- 5:35Speaker 1: and are growing and seeing what is possible for them.
- 5:40Speaker 1: One actually wanted to get into our therapy because of it.
- 5:44Speaker 1: So and uh, one my one of the one of
- 5:52Speaker 1: my clients came with a picture in mind of what
- 5:56Speaker 1: she wanted to make and it was her first time
- 5:59Speaker 1: ever coming and she like sat down there and I
- 6:03Speaker 1: want to make this, and I'm like, okay, you know,
- 6:06Speaker 1: and then she like stormed out of the room. So
- 6:08Speaker 1: I went to go talk to her and she said,
- 6:11Speaker 1: you know, it all came down to that. She took
- 6:15Speaker 1: an art class one day and the teacher told her
- 6:17Speaker 1: she was doing it all wrong. And I said, there's
- 6:21Speaker 1: no right way, right way or wrong way of doing this.
- 6:25Speaker 1: And she actually taught me something too, because like paint,
- 6:29Speaker 1: your essence is all about symbolic painting. It's not like
- 6:33Speaker 1: you have to have it so perfect you have to
- 6:35Speaker 1: have the elephant look like an elephant. It can be
- 6:38Speaker 1: abstract or something. It doesn't have to be so perfect.
- 6:42Speaker 1: And she taught me that. You know, she goes, I
- 6:46Speaker 1: just want to put my hand in the paint some paint,
- 6:48Speaker 1: so she she did. So I started from that point
- 6:52Speaker 1: on going, you know, you can pick your own symbols.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Because I used to set it up where if it
- 6:57Speaker 1: was like about love, then I would have them do
- 7:00Speaker 1: to doves, and you know, so they had to use
- 7:03Speaker 1: the symbol that I chose, and I'm like that everybody
- 7:06Speaker 1: connects to that. So it's more kind of became more
- 7:11Speaker 1: like an intuitive painting for yourself, so you put it
- 7:14Speaker 1: out on the paper. But it was really interesting that
- 7:17Speaker 1: she had so much fun. She said, it's a mess
- 7:20Speaker 1: and it's dark colors, but I had so much more
- 7:23Speaker 1: fun putting, just playing with the color and the paint
- 7:26Speaker 1: and not worrying about what it looked like. So I
- 7:31Speaker 1: feel like that's what my people, my clients get out
- 7:36Speaker 1: of this. They get an opportunity to see that you know,
- 7:40Speaker 1: it's a work in progress or it's not going to
- 7:43Speaker 1: be perfect. But I get what I'm like trying to
- 7:46Speaker 1: teach myself from this.
- 7:49Speaker 2: How beautiful. And I want to go back to the
- 7:53Speaker 2: beginning of where you were talking about the right brain
- 7:56Speaker 2: left brain. Oh, I was aircraft electrician in the military.
- 8:02Speaker 2: I've got a degree in electronics. I worked in a
- 8:06Speaker 2: factory where we counted numbers of products that were defective
- 8:11Speaker 2: and how to fix them and how to prevent the defects.
- 8:14Speaker 2: It was all very mathematical, very clinical, very stressful. And yes,
- 8:21Speaker 2: I forgot how to connect with my creativity until I
- 8:27Speaker 2: connected with my inner child. And I didn't paint though.
- 8:33Speaker 2: I made something out of flowers. I made a little
- 8:40Speaker 2: crown out of flowers.
- 8:42Speaker 1: That's cool.
- 8:44Speaker 2: As I was doing this, I felt something open up
- 8:48Speaker 2: inside of me.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, but.
- 8:51Speaker 2: I could really identify when you were talking about that
- 8:55Speaker 2: lady who has left brain. And then the painting helped
- 8:58Speaker 2: open up her right, yes, And it also made me
- 9:04Speaker 2: think of parents who are so concerned with brains and
- 9:10Speaker 2: help and discipline that sometimes they forget about allowing their
- 9:18Speaker 2: children to be creative or better yet, getting creative with
- 9:23Speaker 2: your children. Right. My childhood memory was when my mom
- 9:28Speaker 2: cloth on the table and we just made stuff.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Oh that's so great, that's so fun. I don't like that.
- 9:37Speaker 1: That's sorry, that is so cool. You know, I didn't
- 9:41Speaker 1: realize how much I was a creative soul when I
- 9:44Speaker 1: was a kid, Like it didn'tdonomy, like I did need
- 9:46Speaker 1: a point in rug hooking, but who knew? Like? And
- 9:51Speaker 1: then who knew like? I was like, I never liked
- 9:53Speaker 1: there the pre patterns like, so I had to create my.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Own I thinking about that.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Yes, it's like it was like I had so much
- 10:02Speaker 1: more fun, just like going outside the lines and not
- 10:06Speaker 1: being inside. And I think that's what's also important, is
- 10:11Speaker 1: when you get to use your creativity and you play,
- 10:14Speaker 1: you think outside the box. Yes, you don't have to
- 10:17Speaker 1: worry about like who I.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Have to stay with this little like little thing. No,
- 10:22Speaker 2: you get to be out there playing, experiencing life. This
- 10:28Speaker 2: is where all the new inventions come from. If everybody
- 10:34Speaker 2: just stayed like this, we'd never get anything new, Yes, totally.
- 10:41Speaker 2: I remember on the assembly line once we were building
- 10:45Speaker 2: this product and like nine out of ten were defective. Yeah,
- 10:51Speaker 2: and everybody was thinking, very in the box is the
- 11:00Speaker 2: only way to put it in the box? Well, just
- 11:03Speaker 2: get rid of that batch and bring in another batch.
- 11:06Speaker 2: And then that batch was bad too. What do we
- 11:08Speaker 2: do now? I thought outside of the box. I called
- 11:12Speaker 2: the manufacturer and I said, this is what's happening to
- 11:16Speaker 2: your product.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Right.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Next thing, I knew, these people from Japan were in
- 11:21Speaker 2: our plant giving us what we needed.
- 11:26Speaker 1: To fix it right, right right.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Rather than say, oh well, we'll just let it go
- 11:33Speaker 2: through and then let them change them out at the end,
- 11:37Speaker 2: these Japanese engineers were able to give us something that
- 11:41Speaker 2: we could do during the assembly process, right, thinking outside
- 11:46Speaker 2: of the box and asking for help.
- 11:50Speaker 1: It's so simple, right, And nobody asks for help, right.
- 11:54Speaker 1: I don't get that.
- 11:55Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make here is if you
- 11:58Speaker 2: are a parent, and you are the left brain or
- 12:05Speaker 2: you are so stuck in the daily turmoil of making
- 12:09Speaker 2: ends knee and getting your kids where they need to be,
- 12:13Speaker 2: and you need some help to get out of that box.
- 12:19Speaker 2: And other people like her can help you find the.
- 12:24Speaker 1: Class right exactly. I think what's also really cool is
- 12:29Speaker 1: if you allow if you see that you are a
- 12:33Speaker 1: leugh brainer, but your child is learning things differently as
- 12:38Speaker 1: a right brainer. I think I was like that. I
- 12:44Speaker 1: think the family I grew up in was left brainers,
- 12:48Speaker 1: and I happened to be the one in the right
- 12:51Speaker 1: brainer side. And then you get shut down and you
- 12:56Speaker 1: get cut off and you say that's not the right
- 12:59Speaker 1: way to be, to be this way, but no, let
- 13:03Speaker 1: this child or let let this child be that creative soul,
- 13:09Speaker 1: because it's just going to brighten up your life just
- 13:12Speaker 1: as much. You just have to like slow down and
- 13:15Speaker 1: talk to them differently. You have to figure out a
- 13:17Speaker 1: different way to communicate, whether it's in pictures or words,
- 13:22Speaker 1: but it's like finding a different way of connecting with
- 13:26Speaker 1: that child. I think that's really just that just hit
- 13:32Speaker 1: me that that how important that is and a good
- 13:36Speaker 1: way for me to reframe some of my stories. But
- 13:39Speaker 1: the way is that if my parents knew that, you know,
- 13:43Speaker 1: they would have treated me so differently.
- 13:45Speaker 2: I think, do you ever do classes with the parents
- 13:49Speaker 2: and children together?
- 13:51Speaker 1: I've never, but that sounds like a really fun idea.
- 13:56Speaker 2: It just came to my mind for those parents who
- 14:00Speaker 2: our left brain with the right brain, kid, that could
- 14:02Speaker 2: be a great way to teach them how to communicate.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, true truly and then have the right brain
- 14:11Speaker 1: say what they see and then have the left brain
- 14:13Speaker 1: see what they see. That's a class yea even for
- 14:20Speaker 1: adults because wow, yeah I like that.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Okay, oh that could even be marriage therapy for the
- 14:27Speaker 2: left brain and right brain.
- 14:29Speaker 1: True, absolutely, or any relationship that's all opposite that you
- 14:34Speaker 1: don't you're not communicating right, Well, maybe there's something about
- 14:37Speaker 1: that that they.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Can even see. I could see this as a corporate training.
- 14:42Speaker 1: Also totally is like our brains are just like, yeah,
- 14:55Speaker 1: they're they're they're connecting.
- 14:59Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, because I do a lot of
- 15:02Speaker 2: leadership training, I'm seeing a very good exercise right here.
- 15:07Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It was like looking at the left brain,
- 15:09Speaker 1: who's right? Who's wrong? Is the right brain or the
- 15:11Speaker 1: left brain? And what if they're both right?
- 15:15Speaker 2: They're both needed, Yeah, and they're both needed.
- 15:18Speaker 1: They and they're a y yinging and the yang. Yes,
- 15:22Speaker 1: and they're both needed and neither one is perfect and
- 15:25Speaker 1: neither one is imperfect.
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