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- 1:00- Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Becker's Healthcare
- 1:03- Clinical Leadership Podcast.
- 1:05- I'm Mackenzie Bean, associate vice president and managing
- 1:08- editor of Becker's Hospital Review.
- 1:11- Today, I'm so thrilled to be joined by
- 1:13- doctor Kate Halpern, who is president of Yale
- 1:16- New Haven Hospital and executive vice president for
- 1:19- Yale New Haven Health,
- 1:20- as well as doctor Deborah Rhodes, who is
- 1:23- chief quality officer and professor of medicine at
- 1:25- Yale Medicine
- 1:27- and Yale New Haven Health System.
- 1:29- Doctor Halper and doctor Rhodes, thank you both
- 1:31- so much for joining us on the podcast
- 1:33- today.
- 1:34- Delight. Thanks for having us.
- 1:36- So I know I'm, talking with you both
- 1:39- a few weeks after CMS released its updated
- 1:42- overall hospital star ratings, and Yale New Haven
- 1:45- Hospital earned five stars, making it one of
- 1:48- the largest hospitals in the country to do
- 1:50- so. Congrat congratulations. Such a notable achievement. I'm
- 1:53- excited to dive into that more today.
- 1:56- I think it's particularly notable as well considering
- 2:00- Yale New Haven Hospital is a safety net
- 2:03- hospital
- 2:04- serving a high Medicaid, high complexity
- 2:06- population.
- 2:08- What does it actually take to achieve top
- 2:11- tier quality outcomes like that
- 2:13- in that environment
- 2:15- when we know there can be a lot
- 2:16- of factors going on there that can affect
- 2:18- metrics for for safety net hospitals that might
- 2:21- be outside of their control?
- 2:23- That's such a great question, but what I
- 2:25- would lead with, Mackenzie, is that we are
- 2:27- really here
- 2:28- for our patients.
- 2:30- And what is in our control is how
- 2:33- we architect ourselves
- 2:35- and choose to respond
- 2:37- to some of the external pressures and some
- 2:39- of the external factors.
- 2:41- And doctor Rhodes and I have been working
- 2:44- in tandem,
- 2:46- as she has laid out with her team
- 2:48- the amazing strategic playbook around quality and patient
- 2:51- safety for the health system
- 2:53- and for Yale New Haven Hospital.
- 2:55- And one of the things we've been embarking
- 2:57- on over the last couple of years has
- 2:59- really been
- 3:01- a cultural change around strengthening the dyad relationship
- 3:05- between nurses and physicians at the frontline,
- 3:09- and I would actually say triad
- 3:11- relationship with our advanced practice providers.
- 3:14- The other important thing is that as we've
- 3:17- reimagined
- 3:18- our senior leadership team, we've become much more
- 3:22- forward facing to the front lines with really
- 3:24- active leadership rounding
- 3:26- and embracing a culture where people can arc
- 3:29- up concerns,
- 3:30- raise safety issues, and we've got a, an
- 3:33- iterative process to manage that. But this is
- 3:36- all undergirded by,
- 3:38- I think, an incredible set of processes
- 3:41- related to the structure, which
- 3:43- doctor Rhodes will describe the processes we've put
- 3:46- in place and using that as the platform
- 3:49- to drive the outcomes.
- 3:51- So really on a high level, leaning into
- 3:54- dyad and then triad leadership as well as
- 3:56- you mentioned
- 3:57- and really reimagining the broader senior leadership team.
- 4:00- And it sounds like that combined with some
- 4:02- of the
- 4:03- structural or processes
- 4:05- put in place have really been the recipe
- 4:07- for success. Doctor Rhodes, can you expand a
- 4:09- bit on on the process piece? What have
- 4:11- been some of those care delivery or operational
- 4:14- changes
- 4:14- that have moved the needle on your quality
- 4:16- metrics the most?
- 4:18- I appreciate you asking a question in that
- 4:20- way because I think if you approach quality
- 4:23- and safety as an operational
- 4:25- change,
- 4:25- you've lost people.
- 4:27- You have to inspire
- 4:29- the staff and reframe what quality and safety
- 4:33- means.
- 4:34- I think quality and safety
- 4:36- had become
- 4:38- synonymous with a dry scorecard of reportable metrics
- 4:43- that were tracking a relatively
- 4:45- small number
- 4:47- of adverse outcomes that occur in the hospital.
- 4:50- And instead,
- 4:51- we wanted to
- 4:54- inspire and reframe
- 4:56- what quality means to everyone who works in
- 4:58- our health system and make it recognizable
- 5:02- and meaningful and actionable to them. So the
- 5:06- very first thing I did was I named
- 5:08- it.
- 5:09- I named what we were going to do
- 5:12- differently, and I think this is profoundly important.
- 5:15- This isn't just quality and safety
- 5:18- as we've done it historically.
- 5:20- We called this full system quality.
- 5:23- It was a comprehensive
- 5:25- redesign
- 5:26- of performance improvement,
- 5:29- not around a small number of dry metrics,
- 5:32- but in a way that would touch every
- 5:35- patient
- 5:36- with every condition
- 5:38- in every setting across our health system.
- 5:41- So how are we going to do that?
- 5:43- We began by building a pyramid,
- 5:46- and at the base of that pyramid, we
- 5:48- defined
- 5:49- roles and responsibilities
- 5:51- for everyone who touches the quality and safety
- 5:54- and equity of care for our patients. That
- 5:57- starts with the board. It includes executive leaders.
- 6:00- It includes
- 6:02- the dyad leaders to which Kate has
- 6:05- referred and really built those what it means
- 6:08- to be a dyad partnership.
- 6:10- We centralized the quality and safety team. We
- 6:13- defined roles and responsibilities
- 6:15- for the frontline teams,
- 6:17- and we also convened a patient and family
- 6:20- advisory council
- 6:22- for their input on everything related to the
- 6:25- quality, safety, and equity of care that we
- 6:27- delivered.
- 6:29- Onto that base, that foundational
- 6:31- pyramid of responsibility
- 6:33- and accountability
- 6:34- for quality and safety,
- 6:36- we layered new tools
- 6:39- and new forms of communication.
- 6:42- And that started with
- 6:44- standard
- 6:45- work.
- 6:46- Standard work,
- 6:48- standard metrics,
- 6:49- standard data sources,
- 6:51- standard data definitions,
- 6:54- a standard performance improvement methodology,
- 6:58- and standard scorecards
- 7:00- that were not just one generic scorecard, although
- 7:03- they were built around our agreed upon quality
- 7:06- priorities,
- 7:07- but it drilled it down to the service
- 7:09- line and department level. So, again,
- 7:12- you have clear accountability
- 7:14- for your contribution to the quality, safety, and
- 7:17- equity of care that we provide.
- 7:20- Then we established a number of new structures
- 7:24- around,
- 7:25- quality and safety
- 7:27- support.
- 7:28- So to give you a few examples,
- 7:31- we convened
- 7:33- safety
- 7:34- forward platforms to really take a proactive
- 7:38- approach
- 7:39- to recurrent safety vulnerabilities
- 7:42- in our system, such as medication safety.
- 7:45- We established
- 7:47- daily management boards and tiered huddles
- 7:50- to communicate our quality and safety priorities
- 7:53- from the frontline unit based teams all the
- 7:56- way up to executive leadership
- 7:58- and all the way back down in a
- 8:00- day, so so that every day we're convening
- 8:03- around those standard quality and safety priorities.
- 8:07- We also convened care signature councils to define
- 8:10- our best practice standards
- 8:13- for every service line and department.
- 8:15- So we have 22 of those councils, which
- 8:18- really govern
- 8:19- quality and safety
- 8:21- at that very specific level for every condition
- 8:24- for which we provide care.
- 8:27- And then we also implemented some new tools
- 8:30- that were specifically focused around those key quality
- 8:34- metrics
- 8:35- for mortality.
- 8:37- We introduced an early warning score for our
- 8:40- hospital associated
- 8:41- infections.
- 8:42- We introduced a daily reportable tracker
- 8:46- to make sure that we are aware
- 8:48- of all the patients that are vulnerable to
- 8:50- those infections and the steps we need to
- 8:52- take to prevent them. So it was with
- 8:54- those standard tools that we layered onto that
- 8:57- pyramid of
- 8:59- foundational roles and accountability
- 9:01- that we really drove this improvement.
- 9:04- We identified a common goal. Our goal is
- 9:07- to be in the top decile of academic
- 9:09- medical centers across the country
- 9:11- on every single one of the quality measures.
- 9:14- And, again, we defined the ultimate goal, which
- 9:18- is to touch every patient
- 9:20- or with every condition in every setting
- 9:23- across the care that we provide.
- 9:26- I appreciate that comprehensive
- 9:29- overview. I think it's so helpful to hear.
- 9:31- And, you know, I often speak with quality
- 9:33- executives, and they talk about the importance of
- 9:35- really integrating quality into
- 9:38- day to day work and operations. But I
- 9:40- think you also make such a great point
- 9:41- that it really can't feel like a dry
- 9:44- operational
- 9:45- focus, but it needs to have be tied
- 9:48- to the mission and values and truly be
- 9:49- ingrained in an organization. It sounds like you
- 9:51- really took that to heart when you're setting
- 9:53- that foundation base of your pyramid before you
- 9:56- started layering
- 9:57- on top of that.
- 9:59- I'm curious when did this
- 10:01- work begin? How far are you into the
- 10:03- journey
- 10:04- of building this trying this pyramid and and
- 10:06- implementing it across the system?
- 10:08- So we began building these,
- 10:11- constructs in 2022,
- 10:14- recognizing
- 10:15- that with a lag in so much of
- 10:17- the quality,
- 10:18- reporting and performance,
- 10:20- we this would this would be a multi
- 10:22- year
- 10:23- multi tiered strategy.
- 10:26- So we are now at last, I think,
- 10:28- seeing the fruits of that strategy.
- 10:31- Yeah. The fruits of your labor.
- 10:34- You lay it out in such a
- 10:37- clear and simple way by but I imagine
- 10:39- that this level of
- 10:41- standardization
- 10:42- took a lot of
- 10:43- hard work and focus. I'm curious
- 10:46- what were one of the biggest obstacles that
- 10:48- you
- 10:49- faced across the,
- 10:51- team and system as you were rolling this
- 10:52- out, and how did you overcome it? I
- 10:54- think,
- 10:56- it's always helpful for executives from other systems
- 10:59- to hear those types of lessons if anything
- 11:01- comes to mind.
- 11:02- So we had two,
- 11:05- significant obstacles.
- 11:07- The first was that when we started this
- 11:09- work, our quality and safety team was not
- 11:11- centralized.
- 11:13- We had quality and safety,
- 11:15- roles
- 11:17- embedded in different
- 11:18- hospitals,
- 11:20- in different departments and service lines,
- 11:23- and those teams were not necessarily
- 11:26- using the same sources of truth.
- 11:29- They were not necessarily honing to the same
- 11:31- priorities.
- 11:32- And so you sometimes had disparate senses
- 11:36- of how we were performing
- 11:38- on critical quality measures.
- 11:41- By centralizing
- 11:42- the quality and safety team and standardizing
- 11:45- those roles
- 11:46- remember that at that time,
- 11:49- the the same role might have an entirely
- 11:52- different job description because they the reporting structures
- 11:55- were so complex.
- 11:57- But by bringing those under one standard reporting
- 12:00- structure and standardizing those roles,
- 12:03- we were able much more efficiently
- 12:06- to move towards those
- 12:08- agreed upon quality objectives.
- 12:11- The second big obstacle
- 12:13- is that we didn't have standard
- 12:15- sources of truth.
- 12:16- So we really spent a lot of time,
- 12:19- and we're still doing this work,
- 12:22- standardizing
- 12:24- the data definitions
- 12:25- and data metrics that we use for the
- 12:28- hundreds and hundreds of reportable metrics across the
- 12:31- different service lines.
- 12:33- It's not just been an an organizational
- 12:36- change. It's been an incredible
- 12:38- cultural change.
- 12:40- It's really been a situation of moving
- 12:43- thousands of people,
- 12:45- in a in a unified
- 12:46- direction towards a single purpose
- 12:50- and a and a and a single goal.
- 12:52- And I I I can't
- 12:54- I can't state,
- 12:57- with with greater passion and imperative
- 13:00- the leadership that doctor Rhodes' team has provided
- 13:04- for the entirety of the system. Focusing for
- 13:06- just a moment on Yale New Haven Hospital,
- 13:09- there are more than 15,000
- 13:12- staff here
- 13:13- and thousands of physicians.
- 13:16- And so moving that body in a unified
- 13:19- way,
- 13:20- has been a remarkably
- 13:23- great bit of work, and I think,
- 13:26- again, it's in part because people have come
- 13:29- to understand the purpose
- 13:31- of coming together for the greater good of
- 13:33- the whole to advance patient safety and to
- 13:36- really work to provide the highest level of
- 13:39- care quality. And that's from the top
- 13:43- of the organization
- 13:45- filtered all the way from frontline care, support
- 13:48- services,
- 13:49- back office.
- 13:51- Everybody, I think, is now at a place,
- 13:53- and it's taken a couple of years, but
- 13:55- everybody's at a place where they really understand
- 13:58- now the why,
- 14:00- the purpose behind this journey, and what their
- 14:03- role is in it. Mhmm. What doctor Halpern
- 14:06- is not mentioning is her
- 14:09- her role in inspiring this and I do
- 14:11- just wanna touch upon it because I think
- 14:13- it's so critical.
- 14:14- So she
- 14:17- leads from
- 14:20- a a sense
- 14:21- of inspiration
- 14:23- and
- 14:25- walking the walk
- 14:27- every single day. She is out in the
- 14:29- hospital
- 14:30- every day meeting with people, greeting people,
- 14:33- hearing their feedback,
- 14:36- asking them questions,
- 14:37- learning from them, responding to them, supporting to
- 14:40- them, and supporting them. And she has really
- 14:44- given this sense that we can do this
- 14:47- together. We can
- 14:50- achieve
- 14:51- these lofty goals together.
- 14:54- And I mentioned earlier the importance of new
- 14:59- communication
- 15:00- forums.
- 15:00- She has really developed
- 15:03- a meeting
- 15:04- structure that nobody wants to miss.
- 15:07- And most of the time, everybody wants to
- 15:10- miss meetings.
- 15:11- But in this case,
- 15:13- everybody wants to go to this meeting because
- 15:16- it's where
- 15:17- things
- 15:18- happen. And you walk away from that meeting
- 15:20- feeling
- 15:21- not only did I get to communicate the
- 15:24- key message that we need everyone here to
- 15:26- know about quality and safety this month,
- 15:29- but I also feel inspired and renewed
- 15:32- that we can do this together. And it's
- 15:35- that sense of hopefulness
- 15:38- and belief in our system
- 15:40- that it takes a special kind of leader
- 15:43- to catalyze, and
- 15:45- she has done that for this hospital.
- 15:48- I think
- 15:49- that type of
- 15:51- alignment and inspiration from a leadership team is
- 15:53- just so
- 15:54- infectious.
- 15:56- Doctor Halper, I'm wondering if you can speak
- 15:58- a little bit more to
- 15:59- that meeting in terms of the main focus
- 16:01- of it,
- 16:03- why it's been so successful.
- 16:05- I think
- 16:06- we've
- 16:07- we've changed the meeting to be far more
- 16:10- inclusive.
- 16:11- And,
- 16:12- by the title management meeting, one one would
- 16:15- think that isn't something that that you'd want
- 16:17- to attend.
- 16:19- But what we have done is try to
- 16:20- reach out across the spectrum of our two
- 16:22- campuses and 1,500
- 16:24- beds
- 16:25- to include
- 16:26- not just the local managers, but system managers
- 16:29- as well as physician leaders. And that's a
- 16:32- change
- 16:33- that, that I made purposefully a number of
- 16:35- months ago. And and to see that sort
- 16:38- of connection
- 16:40- as people are gathering,
- 16:42- and, and to hear their stories and to
- 16:44- have them
- 16:45- communicate, ask questions, and,
- 16:48- and offer their input, I think, has given
- 16:51- the hospital as a whole, if it were
- 16:53- a living, breathing organism,
- 16:55- a true sense of self efficacy.
- 16:57- And that's the belief that Deb is talking
- 16:59- about. I think the team really feels like
- 17:04- we can accomplish anything together.
- 17:07- And there's nothing more powerful
- 17:09- than that. I know this is also a
- 17:11- big year for Yale New Haven Hospital celebrating
- 17:14- its bicentennial
- 17:15- year, which is so amazing.
- 17:18- Here's what have the past two hundred years
- 17:20- of serving your community and that legacy really
- 17:23- taught you all as a leadership team about
- 17:25- delivering high quality care for your community community
- 17:29- today? How do those lessons show show up
- 17:31- in the day to day work?
- 17:33- I'll start perhaps, but I do hope doctor
- 17:35- Rhodes will will amplify some of my comments.
- 17:39- So I guess one could say we've had
- 17:42- two hundred years of experience
- 17:44- in in working,
- 17:46- on behalf of our patients, and
- 17:48- I think what that has given us
- 17:50- is a true sense of purpose around the
- 17:52- deep and abiding commitment we feel to the
- 17:55- community we serve
- 17:57- and the sense of health equity that we
- 17:59- hope to bring to the communities that we
- 18:01- serve.
- 18:03- We do sit at an interesting intersection
- 18:06- as a safety net hospital
- 18:08- and a deliverer
- 18:10- of some of
- 18:12- the highest touch,
- 18:14- highest tech, highest complexity
- 18:16- quaternary care that is
- 18:19- imaginable
- 18:20- in in the world, actually.
- 18:22- And so I think by
- 18:24- by maintaining
- 18:26- our vision around community,
- 18:28- health equity,
- 18:30- and the history that we have here,
- 18:32- we're actually
- 18:33- serving for the greater root of all. And
- 18:35- we're and we're rather than rather than it
- 18:38- being diminishing,
- 18:40- it's actually
- 18:41- strengthening for us. So we're not just coexisting
- 18:44- with this dyad. We're actually amplifying the opportunity
- 18:48- across the
- 18:49- board. Beautifully said.
- 18:52- And yet,
- 18:53- it is
- 18:55- profoundly challenging and ever more challenging
- 18:58- to serve the needs of the most vulnerable
- 19:01- people in our community
- 19:03- in this environment.
- 19:04- And so we are
- 19:06- trying to become more creative with
- 19:10- community resources.
- 19:12- Just this morning,
- 19:14- we were having a a conversation
- 19:16- of how we could align
- 19:18- our street medicine team
- 19:21- with our addiction medicine team,
- 19:24- with other resources in the community
- 19:27- to really help
- 19:28- unhoused patients with cirrhosis,
- 19:31- which we had identified as a key quality
- 19:34- opportunity in some of our data analysis just
- 19:36- this morning.
- 19:38- So it's really about building those partnerships
- 19:41- across
- 19:42- many partners outside of our health system
- 19:45- to support the community as best we can.
- 19:49- I I am,
- 19:51- every day,
- 19:52- just sort of hand to heart
- 19:55- about what our clinical providers
- 19:58- come up with, how they create and iterate
- 20:01- on opportunities for the community. It's it's it's
- 20:05- really remarkable. And then
- 20:07- when we, as Deb said, work together in
- 20:10- partnership
- 20:10- with community organizations,
- 20:13- that that that power so that's another
- 20:16- incredibly important
- 20:17- dyad relationship
- 20:19- that we do not take for granted, but
- 20:21- we feel we've got a very important role
- 20:24- in the greater New Haven
- 20:26- set of communities
- 20:27- and and beyond.
- 20:30- And it sounds like you've really built a
- 20:32- culture where the entire
- 20:34- team at the system
- 20:36- understands that and is so dedicated
- 20:38- into the work that they're doing.
- 20:41- I'm curious
- 20:41- reflecting on all of the work that
- 20:44- you've done,
- 20:45- your five star rating, and where you're going
- 20:47- from here.
- 20:48- Here's
- 20:49- what advice would you have for listeners who
- 20:52- are listening to this episode,
- 20:55- trying to get their hands around their own
- 20:56- quality performance?
- 20:58- What are maybe one or two operational
- 21:00- moves or pieces of advice you'd, tell them
- 21:03- to look at first?
- 21:05- I would say first,
- 21:07- identify
- 21:08- your most compelling
- 21:11- quality and safety priorities
- 21:13- and hone into those
- 21:16- rather than trying to boil the ocean.
- 21:18- And, obviously, they need to be expressed
- 21:21- in real time data
- 21:23- as opposed to performance that may be lagging
- 21:26- in some of the CMS and other programs.
- 21:29- And then hone in on those top opportunities
- 21:33- and priorities,
- 21:34- but drill down
- 21:36- to the contribution
- 21:39- of each individual service line and department
- 21:42- to those shared priorities.
- 21:44- So that's a really key first step.
- 21:47- The second step is
- 21:49- standard work and standard metrics. I I cannot
- 21:53- emphasize that enough. Your performance can look,
- 21:57- stellar or dismal
- 21:59- depending on how you define,
- 22:03- the source of truth for your data
- 22:05- and the way you track it. And being
- 22:08- extraordinarily
- 22:10- transparent
- 22:10- and consistent
- 22:12- about those definitions
- 22:14- and metrics
- 22:15- is critical.
- 22:17- Having accountable roles
- 22:20- for more than just the quality team
- 22:23- is critical.
- 22:24- The quality and safety team cannot
- 22:27- operationalize
- 22:28- quality and safety.
- 22:30- We have to work together with every other
- 22:33- team
- 22:34- to do this,
- 22:35- which is so difficult to define
- 22:38- who is doing what
- 22:40- and who is accountable for what. And many
- 22:43- teams
- 22:44- and hospitals and systems, including ours to some
- 22:47- degree,
- 22:48- have shied away
- 22:50- from that work
- 22:52- of defining
- 22:53- roles and accountability. And we have really tried
- 22:56- to do that in these last two years
- 22:59- with with transparency
- 23:01- and fairness.
- 23:02- And lastly, I would say
- 23:05- communicating
- 23:06- performance
- 23:07- regularly and consistently,
- 23:09- but also
- 23:11- humanly
- 23:12- with the patient at the center
- 23:14- so that these don't become
- 23:16- dry numbers.
- 23:18- Every time we improve quality and safety,
- 23:21- we improve the lives
- 23:23- of patients.
- 23:24- And if you
- 23:26- somehow miss that connection,
- 23:28- you will never meaningfully improve quality and safety.
- 23:32- So always keeping patients at the center of
- 23:35- those metrics.
- 23:37- Wonderful.
- 23:38- Well, doctor Rhodes, doctor Halpern, I so appreciate
- 23:42- you giving us a peek behind the curtain
- 23:44- at so much of the
- 23:46- care and strategy and focus and hard work
- 23:48- that,
- 23:49- contributed to your five star rating in this,
- 23:52- safety grades update. It really is remarkable to
- 23:55- hear about the scale of change management and
- 23:57- this cultural transformation that's driving so much quality
- 24:00- success for you. So thank you both for
- 24:02- joining us on the podcast today and sharing
- 24:04- your insights. We so appreciate it.
- 24:06- Thank you again. Thank you.