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Hokies Season Prediction · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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  I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian siglo buddy.
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  Hump day. Wednesday night.
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  How's it been man? Well Dave oh we got.
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  We were twinning here. We're beard winning party.
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  Would find poke longer. Yes, sir.
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  Get six more in the basement. I'm going to get you in there in
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  the broadcast but relationship, we go out and buy you some and
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  go even Lane Stadium. This your buddy.
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  It's been spinning. Another.
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  Great week another week off of work, but we call them work with
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  a lot more work. I'm no, you're doing more or at
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  least somewhat equal amount of work, despite not working.
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  Meanwhile, I'm over here, I'm back in the office for the first
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  time, since March of last year, only this week and then also
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  starting Masters Masters classes for the semester today.
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  It's been a A full day I finished up with that about 10
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  minutes before we jumped on here.
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  So nice. How was the commute in from
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  Mechanicsville downtown? It's not bad by new parking
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  spot, has cut 10 minutes off my walk-in combined with my
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  commute. So I'm saving 10 minutes now.
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  Wait a second. Did they put you on the side of
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  the river? I'm on this side of the river
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  when I'm, no, I'm no longer on Mayo Island.
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  I am now at the train station. So you're moving up in the world
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  down there then. Yeah man, I'm good.
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  I've got the Primo spots now that is absolutely sweet man.
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  And me, I'm just doing me hanging out with the kid having
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  a good time much-needed. Much-needed, time.
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  And have a great time with her but it is work.
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  It is work from 5:30 a.m. to when the wife gets home and but
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  it's been good, you know, not many companies, give that you
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  know, parental leave. I got a month ago.
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  It's all Awesome. I'm going to take a another week
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  and then after Labor, Day back to the normal grind, and man
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  looking at hokey football, we have a lot to cover tonight.
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  Last week with breast pick six reviews.
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  Awesome, awesome time with Tim we spent some time with him
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  before and after got me even height for the season.
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  But tonight what we're looking at, folks are two big topics.
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  We're going to talk about the alliance announcement.
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  Yesterday with some people are clowning on some people saying
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  it wasn't an announcement. I got some different views from
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  those two, and then we are going to give our season preview
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  record. Do not take this to Vegas or any
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  sports adequate might lose money.
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  Thank you to Vegas. I like my pics mu.
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  This is all Pixar. For entertainment purposes, only
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  lock it up. You cannot.
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  Let's start it out. We're gonna we're gonna start a
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  sort out with the, I don't know, bro, what do you call this?
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  Let's just call this the depressing opening.
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  And let's start with really sad news from last week.
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  A manual Belmar. Has to retire, you know, what do
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  you think, Ronnie? You played football in.
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  This guy has to stop before. Essentially, it's over for him.
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  Yeah, and I mean, I had to do something similar for different
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  reasons, so, I mean, it sucks. Anytime that you still have
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  eligibility, like, if your yourself, you'd still be
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  playing, but something else kind of takes that away from you.
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  So that aspect of it, always always.
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  It's big time and I feel for him.
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  I mean he bled maroon and orange when he went out on that field
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  man. And you know, I felt like he was
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  starting to come into his own a little bit towards the end of
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  last season wanted to see if he was able to take a step this
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  season, but with some of those the concussions and everything
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  else going on towards the end of the season, it just looks like
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  he was never able to get back to to where he needed to be to
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  play, so unfortunate for him, but hats off to him.
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  We'll miss him out there on the field this year.
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  Absolutely, I'm hats off to him. Hats off to him for also, trying
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  it to give it a try and fall Camp, one more time and then
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  realize where he was he couldn't do it.
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  There are people out there that I'm sure would have went through
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  it. But obviously, for him, it was a
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  look down the road in 20 years since I want to say, when we are
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  in our life and we got a wife and kids and there's going to be
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  potential consequences down the road for the Hokies.
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  Definitely hurts defensive in you know him gone Alec Bryant
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  gone, Robert wooden gone and that's big.
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  You know, we were we were hoping for Belmar then you know you got
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  a healthy Garbutt back, probably having a first two lines where
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  you felt pretty good about even if you weren't necessarily
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  jumping for joy. Now, that gets a little bit
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  sketchy heading into the season. First line, not not too
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  concerned about, but kind of that, that fourth and fifth DN
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  is where you start seeing a little bit of.
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  We feel good about Jalen Griffin, we haven't seen as much
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  with the question is Cole stretch Carroll one of these
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  younger guys, do they take a prominent role and I think you
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  know, we're ten days from seeing that but as far as Belmar goes,
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  that man will be forever remembered for getting on that
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  ball. UVA game to extend the streaks,
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  both ways. He was there, he got it and you
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  know, I think there was a picture of him.
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  Somebody put it on Twitter, it was a picture of him holding the
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  ball and you could just see the UVA fans are the faces were
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  like, oh God. No, not again, not again, but
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  Emmanuel Belmar. Best of luck to you and whatever
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  you do. I am sure you're going to do
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  great things, whatever, Walk of Life takes you.
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  All right. Poor sad news.
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  We're starting all sad because you You know, we got to get out
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  of the way early. I can't make it in today.
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  Xavier Simmons D commits. Some people said they had known
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  about this for months weeks. Nothing I don't ever remember
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  seeing anything. But again, I'm also got three
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  kids. I was running around like
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  chicken head copped off. You did a position group, I
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  think we're okay. It sucks losing because he's an
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  all-around athlete. Yep, it's not like a crippling
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  position. Where we have no one coming in
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  or no one already on roster of talent.
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  Yeah, I mean I've heard things like family had friend or
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  acquaintance on coaching staff there You shot.
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  So it could be something related to that, but it's still a big
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  loss for the Hokies. You can't spend it any other
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  way. This was probably our, I'd say,
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  number two, number three, that recruit for this cycle and you
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  know, losing a player of that of that caliber, you know,
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  composite borderline for Star, 4 Star by 24/7.
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  I mean, you can't just say, oh, that's not gonna make a
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  difference. It's definitely going to make a
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  difference, especially the long Run there.
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  So definitely sucks losing out on on Xavier Simmons and hurts.
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  Some of our case that were trying to make against the, the
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  other people in the ACC, we went into North Carolina and got one
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  and now, we don't. So yeah, there's, there's that
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  element of it to now. He didn't go to UNC vote, but we
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  have dessert. When you get a win in, in the
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  state of North Carolina, you got to take one and unfortunately we
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  weren't able to close the deal and and carry that through to
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  sign. Day.
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  So best of luck to him at Missouri but I was looking
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  forward to seeing you in maroon and orange True.
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  You talk about the relationship. It's the Eli drink was
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  connection, who was a tap stay, just a couple years ago.
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  So obviously, you know, AB State just literally probably the same
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  amount of drive from the 336 as it is to Blacksburg.
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  So, obviously a connection there and like you said we had talked
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  about, he was one of the crown jewels, right?
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  Yep. Gunnar Ramon.
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  We consider Rashad, we consider, Him.
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  So you lost a crown jewel. Now I'm not going to say the
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  name yet but there is a name that is coming up more and more
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  often. I'll hope these boards from the
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  state of North Carolina now playing in Virginia for this
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  season that be on the lookout for this guy.
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  Just I'm not going to say the name but start reading folks.
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  The one other thing that I did not like about his deep
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  commitment he literally did it right before cam Johnson
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  committed. Like listen man, you want to D
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  commit that school, but you legitimately know this guy's
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  going to the university that you're leaving.
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  Just think about that. That's kind of those life
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  decision things where it's kind of like I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm
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  gonna You're gonna laugh at this point but it's kind of like if
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  you get pregnant. And you go to a friend's
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  wedding, you do not announce that you're having a freaking
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  baby at the Friend's Wedding. You just don't do it is bad
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  taste. That's what happened about that
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  and we're going to shut the door on it.
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  All right, there next up big guy and I don't know if necessarily
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  say this is sad news but it's kind of out opening news with
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  Devin Taylor getting in the transfer portal.
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  How did you read this? I read that as he was
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  essentially, going to be the third guy up at boundary safety
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  because I it looks like they're cross-training Tay daily both
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  positions. Yeah.
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  And he's essentially going to be the first Sub in with more than
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  likely counted Jenkins, taking over at at free and obviously,
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  Devon Hunter locking up boundary safety.
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  There so sounds left A daily was going to be the guy that the
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  kind of pivot player and he was kind of ahead of where Devon
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  Taylor was at boundary safety but also the best man up at the
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  at free as well. So he probably Devon saw.
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  It is probably not going to get him a lot of opportunities on
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  the field this year, maybe can go and see what take my talents
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  somewhere else and get on the field.
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  It was, It was kind of the, the reason he came here, he saw an
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  opportunity last year based on He came in I mean that was that
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  was kind of big for us your Shoring up a departure with you
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  know a cornerback and he was pegged to play either cornerback
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  or and then we had to end up moving him over to to safety
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  once we had started having some some thinness there.
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  So exactly. Um it's definitely a little
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  depth concern just because we felt like we had about four or
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  five guys that were that were ready to play at the safety
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  position. Now we're probably close Sir, 2
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  3 or 4. So definitely, you know another
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  the theme of this season ladies and gentlemen is going to be
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  depth because Frontline, we're a decent team.
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  Yeah, we're probably your, I'll say it eight or nine when team
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  if we stay 100% healthy all year but one injury at certain
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  positions could drop about three or four winds off the table
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  there so you can go home followed season 2.
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  A parrot, really. It would make the last few years
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  when I say that 20 and 18 look actually decent.
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  I say the one piece you talk about a daily.
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  I think it says tase better at both.
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  The he is the case. Essentially, your de facto, it's
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  the old school NCAA, right? You have the one safety have two
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  safeties that are 99 and one backup is a 90, and a 92, and
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  he's your backup and both and then the red shirt freshman, you
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  just put us third string but I also wonder if Jalen strowman
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  and Walker aren't pushing him to where it was to a point.
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  We can't see it. Is it to a point where I'm not
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  even really 3D now like I'm 40 I'm five deep like these guys
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  have caught me and have passed me and I would think more so
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  that's the case because even if tase your 1A 1B you still have
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  potential to be that next man up.
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  So you're one injury away from at least seeing rotational
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  duties. So yeah.
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  It be it could be that that Stroman had Asked him even on
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  the depth chart as far as boundary safety is concerned and
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  that would definitely put him in a situation where he really
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  would struggle to get on the field.
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  This season are and, you know, catastrophic injury situation at
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  that position. Yep, that's true.
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  All right. So the last piece of happy or
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  bad news happy. I don't know depending on who
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  you are but yeah this was this one's going to depend on
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  perspective. If exactly Bode Davidson
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  officially today, is now director of recruiting at Texas
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  Tech. Apparently, getting a handsome
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  pay. Raise also, getting to where he
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  is about three hours from family.
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  Both of he and his wife. Congratulations for him on that
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  for us, we don't have a director recruiting but he had only been
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  in the position three months when John yet see officially
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  step down. So he kind of has guided the
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  ship the last three months. Very good commitments.
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  You give him credit for that because when you're the
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  director, that is partially, your job.
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  Now, the argument is now going. We need higher in season well as
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  somebody pointed out yesterday. Well, we're in Dead period.
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  You can't do anything anyway. So do you really need a
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  director? I don't think we do.
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  I think you just let whoever is on staff kind of run the ship
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  where only if you know, we're only a few two months from
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  Signing Day you. Let them got it in versus trying
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  to teach someone on the Fly. What about you?
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  This one's difficult because I think in terms of timing, I
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  think if you're going to lose your director of recruiting,
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  probably, this is one of the better times to do it because
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  you're far enough along in the 22 cycle where he's not the guy
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  that's really working with those relationships anymore.
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  It's more in the hands of the coaches, the other Personnel on
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  the staff. It's, he's not really as
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  Hands-On on those things anymore.
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  Second, you're not really into the 23 cycle proper yet. the
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  only concern is getting someone in that can kind of hit the
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  ground running to make sure that we don't fall behind getting
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  getting those names in establishing those relationships
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  early at our, the enough of the cycle where we feel like we're
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  placing ourselves in a position heading into the 2022, calendar
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  year, where we can actually, you know, close some of those, you
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  know, once February March, and April hit, which is when we do
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  you really start seeing Those first big round of commitments
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  come through for the next cycle. Absolutely.
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  And you know what was a Texas guy and you know he he gets a
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  bad rap of what happened in Virginia and and we don't know
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  that stuff we don't know from behind the scenes, we don't know
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  his involvement with how much Virginia was pushed.
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  How much Texas was pushed? He seems like an Enthusiast, no
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  Texas was push, heavy breathing heavily.
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  We actually, we don't know to what degree Virginia was given
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  the short change as As a result of that true we don't, and we
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  never know. And unless you talk with him
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  and, you know, this was the kind of a fun thing to see on Twitter
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  yesterday. Brian people are like well, who
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  wants to be the new director of recruiting?
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  And I saw like Vegas Robinson, and some people call me.
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  I'll do it. I'll do it positions like that,
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  and this is no disrespect to anybody.
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  Positions like that. You aren't just given off the
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  street. Bo Davidson had essentially
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  worked as a ga or in some type of capacity role for 14 years
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  before he got that opportunity and I know guys move up and down
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  faster and I see a lot of people.
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  Something I can do really good relationships here.
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  And they were, as director of recruiting, you can't actually
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  go do the relationships there, you can, too.
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  It's NCAA. You can't you can be from the
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  no.4 have the greatest relationship with with Highland
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  Springs with piranha with Manchester with every school.
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  Cool. This is this is what you're
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  doing. You call them and there's only
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  so many times you can talk to the kids.
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  Director of recruiting is essentially putting the game
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  plan in place. So when I see guys saying we can
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  do this in this, the guys who are interested in doing that, my
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  suggestion, Rob. And this would be, I'd love to
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  see these guys do that. And one of the guys in Richmond,
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  did it Davon Morgan create football camps Hopkins,
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  brothers. Did it.
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  Get the kids in Camp, if you want to push them to Virginia
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  Tech because you bring them in, you teach them something.
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  And then potentially, you take them to Blacksburg that would
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  like a recruiting is a whole different story.
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  It's a different ball game. And I'll say this, I would love
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  to have someone in that role. That's either a former player or
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  a graduate that has the passion for the school year.
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  I think you absolutely 100% need that.
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  And that's one thing that both probably did not bring to the
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  table. Will he not, not, not the
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  greatest understanding of you know Virginia high schools and
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  what which high schools are important.
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  But also the passion for, you know, everybody Blacksburg Feels
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  Like Home to pretty much everyone that goes there.
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  I get that. But there's a, there's a big
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  difference between living that and experiencing that after the
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  fact and having someone that is an alumni or played for the
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  Hokies, would certainly be an Asset.
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  That's not to say that you can throw any former player in that
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  role and expect to Bear the fruit.
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  I think that I think that's a very gross overstatement of what
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  the director of recruiting does and you know if the guys are
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  really interested like that now to me there are There are two
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  guys actually take that three guys, former Hokies who are on
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  the path that they wanted a position like that.
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  Dave ons down at enh engine after he did his camps up here.
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  You've got rock Carmichael's up in.
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  Michigan coaching High School football?
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  I think it is actually a Preparatory Academy.
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  Instead he Whitley up to J mu now home.
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  You think about what they're doing?
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  They're not doing recruiting. They are doing on field
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  coaching. Is that the path they take.
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  We don't know if you ask my personal opinion right now, To
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  me Pearson Prelude. I think could get in that role
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  in absolutely dominate. Here's a, a tool is an
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  All-American at Virginia Tech. He knows the culture Pearson
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  praying, Lou coached and Raptor. I think he's been on the staff
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  long enough to and Player Development to understand the
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  state of Virginia, but I also think he understands would
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  understand the whole footprint of recruiting.
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  He played lead 10 years. I mean, why not piercing, you
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  know what I mean? I can't really think of a.
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  If you're looking for an on staff candidate, that isn't
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  Moaning someone that's already working on the recruiting staff.
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  Yeah, Pearson would be the number one choice in my book.
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  Just because having that former player aspect NFL pedigree
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  understanding Super Bowl ring Super Bowl ring.
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  Yeah, understanding things and, you know he under I think he
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  understands what kind of built the Hokies huh?
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  When he was there and understands what it's going to
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  take to kind of get that type of been Eyetality back and it
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  starts with winning the state. I mean, you can say what it
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  said, what you want we absolutely need to have a
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  footprint that's wider than what we had in Beamers are.
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  Oh it can't, it can't just be mostly Virginia and then a
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  handful of kids from Florida, but you need to still put your
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  flag in your state and say now you're not getting all these all
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  these top 10 State kids. We're going to get at least to a
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  cycle, maybe three years. Cycle.
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  And until we start doing that, it's still going to be a
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  struggling, we've done better this year but this should be
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  kind of the the low average not the heights, you know I'm
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  saying? Well I'll hundred percent.
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  This is this is what this is, what we would expect yearly like
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  an average recruiting cycle is kind of what we're looking this
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  year, doing the top 10 multiple in the top 15 multiple in the
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  top for me. This will be have urge what we'd
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  like to see is obviously mean you would be like root of 4 in
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  the top 10 6 Plus in the top 15. And if we're going to recruit 25
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  kids ate in the top 25, essentially absolutely 30% on
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  the top, 25 kids. Should be coming to Virginia
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  Tech in Virginia so you know, that's our feel on that.
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  Anything else to add on this one?
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  Brian before we roll on I say I'm with Tally who I just threw
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  the the common up there. We should be right at or in the
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  top 20 every year in every five years, we should be dropping a
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  top-15 class. If we want to get to where we
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  want to get, which is winning. The ACC somewhat consistently
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  and competing for a college football.
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  Playoff Mission. Absolutely, that's what we have
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  to do. 100% but we've only done one, top 15, class.
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  Ever since the rankings have come out now, maybe you go back
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  and say, well, they should have readjusted some of those because
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  they completely whiffed. Well, we'll see about that
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  later. All right.
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  Let's keep the well, let's get to the Happy Times.
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  Happy Times nappy time y'all. We got a commitment.
• 23:35
  He is a composite for star. He is a top 50 Corner in the
• 23:43
  country. He's a top 300 player.
• 23:46
  Cam Johnson of the st. Frances Academy in Baltimore 6
• 23:50
  foot, 165 Corner Brown. What do you think of Cam?
• 23:54
  I really like this a lot. I like, getting back into
• 23:58
  Maryland. I like this guy's attributes
• 24:01
  that can bring to the table. Good size, right out the gate
• 24:05
  moves. Well turns his hips.
• 24:07
  Well, doesn't shy away from contact, either.
• 24:10
  From the film I've seen, so all around a really good pick up and
• 24:14
  hopefully we can we can close the deal and getting through
• 24:16
  Signing Day. Yeah definitely going to keep a
• 24:19
  definite going to be a fight with him.
• 24:21
  I'm obviously I think it was us in Maryland as the finalists but
• 24:24
  But really good pickup. Really good landing.
• 24:28
  And, you know, we're still hanging onto like, 15th 13th or
• 24:32
  12th with 24/7, even with it. Because when Simmons came on and
• 24:38
  he can't come as one off, he came on.
• 24:40
  We literally stayed at the same spot because they were very
• 24:42
  quickly rank very close. Yeah, very close.
• 24:44
  I think 24/7 was pretty much a Pick'em between, but cams
• 24:49
  composite is a little bit higher.
• 24:52
  Even though, we like 24/7 better, he's a There.
• 24:55
  But I think they'll get a bump. I think right now.
• 24:58
  But as we get into the season, if you just look we're
• 25:01
  recruiting is I don't think we're going to follow me.
• 25:04
  I don't think we're going to fall to 30 because if you start
• 25:08
  going through there's only so many teams that are going to be
• 25:11
  able to add more. Are there going to be some
• 25:13
  Elites that passed us? Yes that's going to happen.
• 25:16
  Are there going to be some top 15 teams?
• 25:18
  Currently that passes? Yeah but I don't think it's
• 25:20
  going to be enough because we still are probably going to pick
• 25:23
  up anywhere from three to four more.
• 25:24
  Or one we talked about earlier is a pretty highly ranked guy
• 25:28
  which is going to help us even more.
• 25:30
  I don't see it as follow. Do you think we're going to be
• 25:32
  in the 30s? Or do you think we're going to
• 25:34
  have a 2 next? Our number at the end?
• 25:37
  I think we're going to be kind of where we typically are, which
• 25:40
  is somewhere between 25 and 30. I don't think we're going to
• 25:43
  drop into the 30s in. A lot of this is going to depend
• 25:48
  on what happens in the season and immediately following the
• 25:52
  season. So I'll put that In there.
• 25:55
  But if things roll through say, we finish like eight, and four
• 26:03
  staff is retained, you know, whatever it is.
• 26:06
  I think we finish somewhere between 25 and 30 things go,
• 26:11
  south other big changes are made.
• 26:14
  Then obviously, all bets are off exactly.
• 26:17
  Well, the whole piece I'll say, is this, I don't think it was so
• 26:19
  much far, south after what happened last year, even with
• 26:23
  the codes. Now after I mean, For real.
• 26:25
  Like what I mean, how much worse can it, get glad that they're
• 26:28
  also, they're even with all that turmoil.
• 26:31
  There wasn't a whole lot of movement towards the for
• 26:34
  Designing day. So what exactly?
• 26:37
  I think I think barring an actual change in regime.
• 26:41
  Your we were probably looking at not not too much of a drop-off,
• 26:45
  very true, very true. Alright so next what we're going
• 26:48
  to look at here, I put my beer down and make the announcement
• 26:50
  for I have a set of the Hockey Hall of Fame was announced lots
• 26:54
  of I played we're going to focus on the three hokey football
• 26:58
  players. Let's start.
• 26:59
  Brian with Tyrone. Drake Ford, someone essentially
• 27:02
  from our use, someone actually connections to our hometown.
• 27:07
  I know she's probably not listening but I'll still shout
• 27:09
  out. Maybe somebody else, say heard
• 27:11
  you on Facebook, the other night, Brenda best cousin,
• 27:14
  Tyrone Drake, furred Corner. Played a tech in the 90s.
• 27:19
  A hell of a football player was drafted by the Niners, won a
• 27:23
  ring with the Niners played up to 2001 one of those original.
• 27:29
  One of the original guys, that started the DB you man.
• 27:33
  Yeah, I mean, this is a big one for you because I'd say really
• 27:37
  all three of these guys that we're going to talk about our
• 27:39
  kind of big for us in general. But this one for you with with
• 27:43
  the 49ers tie in there one. But yeah, I mean Tyrone Jennifer
• 27:47
  was kind of the the 0 g of D bu here and nothing.
• 27:53
  But good things to say about it. Time in Blacksburg.
• 27:55
  And it was one of those guys, as you mentioned, when we were,
• 27:58
  first, first turning on the television by choice to follow
• 28:02
  the Hokies, that was the name we heard.
• 28:06
  And that we love seeing making plays so exactly.
• 28:09
  We were younger were probably nine, ten.
• 28:11
  We were starting to get our cognitive stuff together.
• 28:15
  And essentially, he was, you say, what you want to say?
• 28:18
  He got drafted in 94. So he was a literally part of
• 28:22
  the team that saved Beamers career.
• 28:25
  If guys like Drake for it, aren't there guys, like,
• 28:28
  Maurice, deshazo aren't there in 93?
• 28:32
  We who knows what happens to the program.
• 28:35
  Now buddy? The next two guys, this was our
• 28:39
  Heyday. This was a hey dark man.
• 28:42
  My heart with the X-Men Xavier adibi.
• 28:51
  From down a phoebius down in Hampton.
• 28:54
  I mean my favorite defensive player from that era other than
• 28:58
  Darryl Tapp. So it's I mean, it's and then
• 29:04
  you can have the argument is he's the greatest backer of all
• 29:07
  times. People can fight, you can fight
• 29:08
  with him and Tremaine, you know, but you know it goes back in.
• 29:16
  This is again guys. You know, you played in the
• 29:18
  league for years. He was all ACC was All-American
• 29:22
  in 07 and he was just one of those guys.
• 29:25
  You were hauling a DB and you know it goes back again.
• 29:32
  It was during our Heyday, he was a freak dip.
• 29:37
  A frequent linebacker for his time and I'm trying to think of
• 29:41
  what play. Was it brown was it that energy
• 29:43
  was one of the interceptions we've talked about on here
• 29:45
  before. I know I'm drawing a blanket as
• 29:51
  well. I wish you would, but how many
• 29:54
  plays he made? So awesome.
• 29:56
  This guy getting home? Yep.
• 29:59
  You know, and obviously he was again, one of the what's Brother
• 30:07
  set of Brothers. Yep, man, you played before he
• 30:10
  follow the ante up. It's so it's it keeps going on.
• 30:15
  Yeah, I mean so when when I think Hall in the DB I mean that
• 30:19
  was that was like one of my favorite areas for this defense
• 30:23
  because Hall was solid always there.
• 30:25
  And then a DV was like he was just the playmaker, he was all
• 30:29
  over the field, he was getting interceptions, he was breaking
• 30:32
  up passes, he was completely knocking the shit out of guy.
• 30:36
  As if they were trying to get outside of the edge.
• 30:39
  I mean, just watching those two was awesome and a DV was
• 30:42
  definitely one of my favorites of those those 2000s teams that
• 30:47
  were just so good. Absolutely.
• 30:50
  And I mean, they were part of literally the defenses that were
• 30:55
  number one in the nation that were holding those two light
• 30:57
  eight points that we used to screen if we can have a decent
• 31:02
  bleep and offense, we will win Idol.
• 31:06
  Just just too. Just so you know how nasty is?
• 31:08
  That was 266, tackles 25 tackles for loss nine, nine sacks.
• 31:17
  He had eight picks as a middle linebacker and really three
• 31:20
  years playing full-time. That's nuts.
• 31:23
  Oh, all right. So finally folks we're going to
• 31:26
  hit my local here to the r-va Victor, too Macho Harris out of
• 31:34
  Highland Springs va mean. One of them, was it the first
• 31:42
  five-star landed first five-star landed right?
• 31:46
  Was Mikey, I think. In, man, he was a lockdown
• 31:50
  Corner in every sense of the word, multiple Ace, multiple,
• 31:57
  all-acc, feel like, I don't want to say, he was an All-American
• 32:02
  to. It's not telling me that here,
• 32:04
  but also, you know, a little little background here coach.
• 32:10
  Well, Hometown friend of ours, Charlie Crittenden.
• 32:15
  He actually coached me my sophomore year.
• 32:18
  Year of high school offensive line making grad.
• 32:23
  So I won't hold that against him but he he was coaching Macho
• 32:29
  when he was in high school at the Highland Spring.
• 32:32
  So I remember hearing about this, this Macho Harris guy
• 32:37
  before, some other folks are ready for it.
• 32:40
  But Just the number one. Like there's there's so much
• 32:46
  Swagger that Macho brought to the to the to the to the feel,
• 32:50
  their got the offensive defensive and special teams
• 32:55
  touchdown. I mean that that's still like
• 32:59
  that's something that that just doesn't happen every day.
• 33:02
  I mean, nothing but good things that could be said about macho
• 33:05
  man. Yeah, two guys.
• 33:07
  Did it Macho Andy Hall. Yep.
• 33:09
  That's it. And they any was Special special
• 33:12
  athlete. And, you know, it's great to see
• 33:17
  these guys. I don't know when they'll be
• 33:18
  inducted. I probably find it on the
• 33:20
  schedule. Depending on that game is we
• 33:24
  don't have to Circle that one. Brian to go up to visit.
• 33:28
  Yeah, that'd be a good one. I might be a good one.
• 33:30
  All right, so next thing we're going to look at here, folks,
• 33:33
  and we're rolling right along as fast as we can.
• 33:36
  He is. We are going to look at the ACC
• 33:38
  Corona policies this year. Last year was really they go 07
• 33:46
  Macho at Clemson very devil. All right so here are the kind
• 33:50
  of the three guidelines. Most match, the other
• 33:53
  conferences of the third one's a little different.
• 33:55
  First one is if a game cannot be played on its original.
• 33:58
  Scheduled date due to a team have an instant of an
• 34:01
  insufficient number of people due to the covid-19 virus that
• 34:06
  team will forfeit. The game in the wind will be
• 34:10
  assigned to the other team. Everybody's doing it makes
• 34:13
  sense, right? Yep.
• 34:14
  Makes sense. Yep.
• 34:16
  Second one, if the ACC game cannot be played on the date for
• 34:21
  any Factor. Other than that in there are
• 34:24
  game discontinuation circumstances.
• 34:27
  I'm a little Tsum. That would be like, hurricanes
• 34:30
  coming through, you know, other factors potentially medical
• 34:34
  factors, something like that. Those games essentially, Looking
• 34:39
  at a potential reschedule. So basically, anything freak
• 34:45
  over the could get cancelled and rescheduled, it would be
• 34:47
  cancelled and rescheduled. Yep, the third one is the most
• 34:50
  interesting one. No other conference has this.
• 34:55
  I'm going to read this verbatim. If a 2021 ACC game, cannot be
• 34:59
  played on its original scheduled a due to both team being able to
• 35:03
  play due to an insufficient. Number of players related to the
• 35:07
  covid-19 virus. Both teams, shall be have demon.
• 35:11
  Forfeited, the Forfeited the game.
• 35:14
  And a loss will be assigned to both teams and apply to the
• 35:16
  conference standings double L's 12w hell's.
• 35:22
  So that's exactly what you want to hear double else.
• 35:25
  I mean I'm sure they're going to be
• 35:42
  Nobody's getting anything. It essentially applies, the
• 35:46
  pressure across the board. It's not just, you know, it's
• 35:51
  not just a game of chicken. Like if you both can't play,
• 35:53
  Then you both get the L. Love it, love it.
• 35:57
  So, there are the policies based on kind of what you're seeing
• 36:03
  from throughout college football, all the players are
• 36:06
  over, 95 percent threshold. Most teams Virginia Tech hasn't
• 36:11
  confirmed, but I don't, Think they'll ever be able to confirm?
• 36:13
  100% mode themes, are probably between 97 and 99.
• 36:18
  It might be a few guys here and there medical reasons, and or
• 36:21
  religious purposes. Not, you know, vaccinated in
• 36:27
  your fine. Exactly.
• 36:30
  Jay bernzy for shout-out SS cause more Coastal chaos.
• 36:35
  So there's gonna be like three of them, right?
• 36:37
  Yep. So that's what the coastal does.
• 36:39
  All right, Brian. I mean I mean this the coastal's
• 36:42
  already, I mean, it's already going to be interesting because
• 36:45
  you feel like you got a tier one and then you got a tear to, but
• 36:48
  there's not a huge gap. I don't think a little bit
• 36:52
  margin for error. Can can really throw things into
• 36:55
  a tailspin there and put probably four or five teams in
• 36:59
  play for the coastal going into the later part of November
• 37:03
  there. Exactly.
• 37:05
  All right. So we're going to hit our first
• 37:07
  big topic of the night. The Yesterday from the ACC, the
• 37:11
  Big Ten in the Pac-12 about their Alliance Brian.
• 37:15
  Before we get into some individual points, me and you
• 37:17
  have kind of, pulled out. What was your overall field on a
• 37:22
  jeweler? All feel?
• 37:25
  Well, the first time I heard about it, I could all I could
• 37:27
  think about was Dwight asking Jim if you wanted to form an
• 37:30
  alliance and to, which either the response is absolutely, I
• 37:36
  do. Yeah, my first thought was, I
• 37:41
  think this I wouldn't consider this as a power move.
• 37:46
  This isn't a power move, but this is a, this is a move about
• 37:49
  viability and survival in what looks to be a very uncertain.
• 37:54
  Next, several years in terms of realignment and things of that
• 37:59
  nature. So I don't think a partnership
• 38:02
  can hurt. I just, we'll get into it, but
• 38:06
  I'm not sure exactly how much it's helping other than
• 38:10
  potentially looking at the scheduling aspect of it.
• 38:14
  Yeah. We're going to we're going to go
• 38:17
  into couple times. I think it's a leverage play
• 38:19
  because I think. Now, if you've got three
• 38:21
  Commissioners on board Any sort of NCAA rulings any sort of
• 38:26
  college football playoff, they're going to have leverage,
• 38:29
  right? They've got more institutions,
• 38:31
  and they've got more power because we have three
• 38:34
  conferences, and it's essentially at the SEC is like
• 38:38
  cool. You've got the two big boys, but
• 38:40
  you're still one conference. So you don't hold all the cards
• 38:44
  versus if if they had kept Texas and Oklahoma in the Big 12 and
• 38:49
  just said, hey we're forming a partnership.
• 38:50
  We're going to play is everybody's going to play at
• 38:53
  least one cross. Conference game every year.
• 38:55
  Drop it at that. All right, let's jump into the
• 38:57
  first thing Ron. The first thing I kind of caught
• 39:01
  my ear listening this yesterday is they said, 41 schools.
• 39:06
  Let's do math Brian. There's 14 ACC schools.
• 39:09
  Yep, there's 14. Big Ten schools.
• 39:13
  Yep. There's 12 pack 12 schools, that
• 39:16
  equals 40. So what does that tell you who
• 39:20
  is the plus one? Well that plus 1 is going to be
• 39:23
  more than likely Notre. Dame.
• 39:27
  So mainly and I say that because this Alliance was talking about
• 39:32
  football and Hoops Partnerships. So by default they were they
• 39:36
  might have been thrown in there so it'll be interesting to see
• 39:38
  what that really means for football.
• 39:41
  But the fact that it's 41 definitely means that Notre Dame
• 39:44
  is in play there. Yeah you got swarbrick on the
• 39:47
  cfp model. Also, the other thing I'm going
• 39:50
  to say is this, I don't know how long the contract is and if
• 39:53
  somebody out there wants to look it up and put it in a message to
• 39:56
  us, do it, Notre Dame is contracted to play five, ACC
• 40:00
  games a year. Five, if you start looking at
• 40:05
  their other primary rival throughout time, Navy's warm you
• 40:10
  up at 6:00 Purdue Michigan State.
• 40:16
  Northwestern Michigan have been their primary Rivals.
• 40:21
  The Michigan series is weird, but you're doing Michigan State.
• 40:23
  Were there every year that gets you up to about nine or ten
• 40:29
  every year? Give or take and then West Coast
• 40:32
  wise, they always played USC and Stanford.
• 40:34
  Yep. If for no other reason, they're
• 40:36
  getting into. This is will keep our five ACC
• 40:39
  games. We can get back on track with
• 40:42
  the big 10 games and we've got our West Coast game.
• 40:44
  Eames we assume we think that the only thing they would for
• 40:47
  they would balk at, you know, looking at is, all right.
• 40:52
  So we're playing schedule-wise they would probably be on the
• 40:58
  upper end of the Spectrum in terms of strength of schedule.
• 41:01
  Yeah, maybe. Yeah.
• 41:03
  Every year. Yeah.
• 41:06
  Now granted if they stay independent while adopting this
• 41:09
  model, they probably will need that strength of schedule to
• 41:12
  make their case for a playoff position every year.
• 41:17
  But again, being involved with it.
• 41:19
  It's going to be a lot easier to just go in there and say, we're
• 41:22
  going to play five in the ACC, we're going to play a few in the
• 41:24
  Big Ten, we're going to find the few and the Pac-12.
• 41:27
  Essentially, let us be your one of your games every year and
• 41:32
  hate to say this not hate to say this no team is going to turn
• 41:37
  down a series or a game with Notre Dame.
• 41:40
  It is too much money, it's either you're getting National
• 41:44
  exposure on NBC or if, if You are getting them at home.
• 41:52
  A your home stadium is going to sell out.
• 41:56
  The secondary ticket prices are going to be insane.
• 41:59
  The hotel room rates are going to go insane.
• 42:01
  You're going to make a lot of money that weekend, but also
• 42:04
  your normally, and again, I say normally because this year, they
• 42:07
  bleeped it all up. Although it seems like there's
• 42:10
  about to be a deal between Comcast and ESPN to get the ACC
• 42:14
  Network on your Glimpse. Hope we did get the, we did get
• 42:17
  the oh, we made a mistake line with all the other the other
• 42:21
  night we made a mistake. We actually put a cc Rooming on
• 42:26
  the SEC secondary Channel. Yes, that was a test to make
• 42:31
  sure they could get it done, but you're going to get a prime-time
• 42:34
  game with them and every team wants that exposure.
• 42:39
  Alright Braun. You mentioned it football and
• 42:41
  Hoops Partnerships. We think.
• 42:48
  I mean, they're definitely targeting the sports that are
• 42:52
  bringing in the money so that I mean that that's.
• 42:56
  Probably what this is all about because more or less any sort of
• 43:00
  realignment in any sort of major votes are going to hinge on
• 43:04
  those two sports. Great, very true, very true.
• 43:09
  So that that's why it's strategically position for those
• 43:13
  who supports that that's the ones bringing in money.
• 43:15
  That's the ones where these decisions matter in terms of
• 43:20
  dollars at the end of the day, right?
• 43:23
  Oh yeah, dollars by the end of the day.
• 43:26
  Now they mentioned a few other sports as well, you know, Pac-12
• 43:33
  and Big Ten Women's Volleyball is its exception.
• 43:36
  I've watched a couple big ten games before but then you kind
• 43:41
  of think about think about a Virginia Tech, secondary sport,
• 43:44
  that's not football or basketball.
• 43:47
  Think about wrestling in potentially getting meets with
• 43:51
  Big Ten, where you've got Iowa in State Minnesota, some really
• 43:58
  essentially, like Virginia Tech's the top 10 program,
• 44:01
  you've got multiple top five programs there.
• 44:04
  Yeah, and then, I think West Coast, What's the second?
• 44:10
  What's it? What's the next big?
• 44:12
  Secondary sport in the ACC behind football and baseball?
• 44:15
  No disrespect to wrestling is baseball.
• 44:18
  Yep. In the Pac-12 has always had
• 44:21
  them. Good baseball.
• 44:24
  Absolutely absolutely. Now, as we look at it, the way
• 44:30
  they are and this is where you sign to get the.
• 44:32
  Well, this is just a bunch of punk bullcrap, you know, the
• 44:36
  schedule. A this is where the fluff
• 44:38
  begins. Let me do this.
• 44:40
  Let's turn it backwards. The schedule lines will begin as
• 44:43
  soon as practical while current obligations are being upheld.
• 44:48
  Okay. That's basically saying it's TV
• 44:51
  contracts and it's probably really It's more probably the
• 44:58
  Pac-12 when they get that opportunity it's going to be
• 45:02
  what 2023 is when there's ends. That's when the that's when
• 45:06
  you're going to see it. Start leveraging when you know,
• 45:10
  they say, hey how about this year?
• 45:12
  How about USC? Give me a good Big Ten team, run
• 45:17
  USC plays. State by the state in a
• 45:22
  horseshoe for in the Coliseum. All right Washington really good
• 45:26
  up in the upper Northwest hey we want to play FSU.
• 45:31
  That's when you're going to start seeing them, leverage to
• 45:33
  say, we are getting in place. Name brand teams to bring on to
• 45:40
  Fox Sports that we're not seeing because of their current
• 45:44
  contract with ESPN. I'll tell you what's funny
• 45:46
  though and I know in this is just unfortunate timing because
• 45:49
  I'm sure these discussions have been in works way before the
• 45:52
  alliance. Yeah.
• 45:53
  But today USC announce that at Lear at LSU their schedule we're
• 45:58
  going to 2024. Yeah that's so again it's
• 46:03
  absolutely those discussions have been going on way before
• 46:05
  the alliance stuff started. It, the timing could not have
• 46:08
  been a worse for saying, hey, we've got a handshake agreement
• 46:12
  here that, you know, we're in this together.
• 46:15
  And then the next thing, you know, you get a scheduled
• 46:18
  opponent with an SEC team. So let's just say, when all this
• 46:22
  comes from Russian in 2024, that USC will be asking to play
• 46:26
  either Wake Forest for what thirsty.
• 46:32
  No. No, we good.
• 46:33
  We won't. We won't want to them.
• 46:34
  We don't need your fucking fucked.
• 46:35
  Our PR, exactly giving you the donut the exact, let me ask this
• 46:41
  Bond. So big 10 PAC, 12 said they were
• 46:43
  very you know open to the idea of a playoff expansion.
• 46:47
  Jim Phillips new ACC commissioner said well you know
• 46:51
  we're really landed on the final decision yet.
• 46:53
  You think that's him being legitimate or do you think
• 46:56
  that's more leverage play to say if one of us isn't happy?
• 47:00
  We're going to all reconsider I think he's hedging.
• 47:06
  I mean I think at this point being non-committal gives him
• 47:09
  the opportunity to kind of go where the wind is taking the
• 47:13
  situation. Yeah I don't necessarily think
• 47:16
  that's A bad decision, but at the same time, I would have
• 47:21
  wanted. I would have wanted more
• 47:24
  definitive Direction. I'd rather I'd like the ACC to
• 47:26
  take a little bit more of a leadership role in this thing
• 47:30
  and I feel like hunting on that kind of takes away some of their
• 47:36
  their power later on to to be a strong player in whatever the
• 47:40
  final decision is, what do you think?
• 47:42
  It's because right now they're saying what the top six A
• 47:47
  Champions. Yeah, that was the Assumption
• 47:50
  there was going to be a power 5, you think that's maybe that's
• 47:52
  the reason they're holding to say if the Big 12 can get their
• 47:56
  bleep together and get some other current.
• 48:00
  I think the concern is that if you only have four major
• 48:04
  conferences, you don't do 60 that that that that's going to
• 48:08
  open up more opportunities for sec to take more of those at
• 48:12
  large spaces in the playoff. Which Removes some of the power
• 48:18
  that the Big Ten, the ACC in the Pac-12 have in terms of getting
• 48:23
  revenue from the college football playoff, I'll tell you
• 48:25
  what's going to happen. Michael Yost is going to stumble
• 48:29
  onto his conviction of a, be incorrect because the acc's and
• 48:32
  you're like for Conference champions.
• 48:34
  And for our, you're still going to end up with three of those
• 48:39
  eight being SEC every year. I don't know because I think at
• 48:43
  that point I think there's going to be a lot of different
• 48:45
  criteria and that's what we hope.
• 48:48
  So, I hope that there's not just I mean we're still early in
• 48:53
  this, I know I put my my flag in the ground for 12 but I put my
• 48:56
  flag in the ground for 12 before.
• 48:59
  There was any talk of Texas and Oklahoma leaving the Big 12 for
• 49:02
  the SEC and other realignment things.
• 49:06
  And this definitely makes me want to re-evaluate that a
• 49:09
  little bit. I still think 12 overall is good
• 49:13
  for the overall health of college football, but with fewer
• 49:16
  power 5, Potentially fewer power five conferences.
• 49:20
  It definitely kind of changes that outset because you are
• 49:25
  going to have more power 5 at largest by default.
• 49:29
  Absolutely. Alright, next piece with the no
• 49:33
  contract piece when they said that, what did you think?
• 49:39
  I'll be out. I Love handshake agreements as
• 49:42
  much as the next person but I guess getting it in writing.
• 49:47
  Is it possible? At this time?
• 49:49
  Just because there's a lot of moving pieces, and it's better
• 49:51
  to Better to have something verbal, until we know a little
• 49:56
  bit more than we know right now. Our.
• 50:01
  That's just my take. Did you read hokey Andrews?
• 50:05
  Tweet. I did.
• 50:06
  And that that was a good point as well because he was talking
• 50:09
  about Market collusion and price-fixing.
• 50:12
  If you've got any Apple conferences, essentially ganging
• 50:17
  up on another conference in terms of wedging them out from a
• 50:21
  financial perspective or nice, making a power play against them
• 50:25
  from a financial perspective. And I think that's probably the
• 50:28
  reason why again you got three guys.
• 50:30
  Who are attorneys that are doing this.
• 50:33
  And I'm sure their first thought was, well, hey, we can do an
• 50:36
  agreement contract or somebody probably said, yeah.
• 50:39
  And if the SEC filed an antitrust lawsuit against his
• 50:42
  guess, what they're going to win?
• 50:44
  So they're going to break this up before it even started or
• 50:47
  it's not going to be economically feasible for us to
• 50:49
  try to win it and we'll use figure out exactly what will
• 50:53
  essentially be back where we are.
• 50:54
  Anyway, exactly. So I think that was maybe I
• 50:58
  think it's more, it doesn't look good.
• 51:00
  I think if you start thinking about it, it's like that makes
• 51:03
  sense right now is they're on the same page.
• 51:06
  It's more of the voting thing. Like, you know, how many times
• 51:11
  do you have things you vote on whether it be social, you know,
• 51:14
  you know, social organizations or other things?
• 51:18
  That's go back to thinking SGA and stuff like that, or even
• 51:22
  maybe neighborhood Council where it's, like, you're voting this
• 51:26
  way, right? We're all going to vote this way
• 51:29
  because we don't want that to happen.
• 51:30
  Happen. And they're going to try to make
• 51:31
  that happen. It would it all six of us vote
• 51:34
  against it. They can't.
• 51:36
  And if it's a handshake agreement, they can't sue you
• 51:39
  for anything. All right?
• 51:40
  Yeah. It's the old, I mean, it's the
• 51:43
  old backdoor Arrangement like you, you know, it's not, it's
• 51:47
  not anything formal but it's so it's on the, it's so close to
• 51:50
  being formal that by de facto. It is the same outcomes come
• 51:55
  into place, and hopefully they'll able to keep that
• 51:59
  together. And like I said, I would, I
• 52:02
  would want the ACC to take a little bit more of a leadership
• 52:06
  role on this. Especially in terms of what the
• 52:10
  playoff is going to look like. Because I feel like that's going
• 52:12
  to be the biggest piece of the financial puzzle long-term
• 52:16
  become. So hopefully hopefully there's a
• 52:19
  little bit more information about that.
• 52:21
  Yeah. And again the playoff piece also
• 52:24
  two of these network, two of these conferences have their
• 52:27
  primary ganger on Fox Fox is not in it right now.
• 52:34
  So you know what? I think any coffee of expansion
• 52:38
  while in the next few years is not.
• 52:40
  They're going to vote it down, right?
• 52:41
  No. Because I think what they want
• 52:43
  to do is, let it get out there and get fitted by.
• 52:46
  I think boxes telling the Pac-12 on that.
• 52:49
  It's probably right, just vote. No just vote.
• 52:52
  No, because when he gets here we're going to go after it hard.
• 52:55
  And maybe hopefully what we can get is more of a split playoff
• 53:01
  where we see multiple TV entities handle it versus just
• 53:06
  ESPN. And all right, so we kind of
• 53:10
  mentioned it already. The Big 12, they all mentioned
• 53:13
  the importance of keeping that conference alive to your point,
• 53:16
  Braun Playoff right? If you can have them be viable,
• 53:21
  you have a fifth playoff team. Yeah.
• 53:25
  And they're going to, they're gonna have to do some work to
• 53:28
  remain viable. They cannot hold Pat and and
• 53:33
  hope for survival. You've lost your two, biggest
• 53:38
  Revenue dogs in your conference, true.
• 53:42
  And that's it. We're going to be and it's going
• 53:46
  to be interesting weather. Whether Texas and Oklahoma
• 53:53
  decide to pay the buyout to start this thing early, whether
• 53:59
  they decide to ride it out and hope that the Big 12 olds, so,
• 54:04
  they can depart early without having to pay the buyout.
• 54:08
  Or if the Big 12 is able to make some moves with some of these
• 54:13
  other G5 conferences, potentially or maybe even power
• 54:19
  five conference has to get Get a team or two to come over to
• 54:23
  their side of the, the field there because they're going to
• 54:26
  need something to remain viable. They keep that.
• 54:29
  I definitely don't think they can just hold their status quo
• 54:32
  right now for the next three to five years and hope to remain
• 54:35
  viable. Now, the can't hold status quo
• 54:40
  but if Texas are Oklahomans used to pay that buyout, it still
• 54:44
  will take a couple of years of the SEC money to recoup it.
• 54:50
  Sure, but long game, they can afford it, it's just the
• 54:53
  question. Do they want to take their
• 54:55
  short-term loss? Especially coming off of covid?
• 54:58
  In order to achieve that will? Also, let's just say it.
• 55:03
  You're also going into, I'm not going to hesitate on.
• 55:06
  You're going into the strongest conference.
• 55:08
  What if you go in there and become a 6?
• 55:09
  And 16, your Brand's done your brand and your brand suffers,
• 55:14
  but Texas has still been the number one athletic department.
• 55:20
  In terms of Revenue, while being a fucking middling ass program
• 55:24
  for the last decade middling ass.
• 55:26
  Did you think you're going to hear that?
• 55:29
  All right. Well you know what, this is
• 55:31
  probably I think what this is my opinion, how the big 12 can
• 55:35
  somehow make it. They are going to be looked at
• 55:37
  as the ugly stepsister of the group but you go you look at
• 55:45
  Central Florida. You look at Cincinnati.
• 55:47
  Look at Memphis. Look at BYU and you look at
• 55:50
  Boise and you just invite them and just say whatever happens is
• 55:54
  what happens and we're going to figure it out from here because
• 55:58
  at least you have with those five schools they have brains,
• 56:03
  they are known as they are known to average college football
• 56:06
  fans. BYU know, we know has a very
• 56:10
  passionate base. As there's Boise, the other ones
• 56:13
  are building. You just, you just almost a
• 56:16
  screw it. This is literally a Hail Mary.
• 56:20
  Even if we don't score the touchdown and everything
• 56:22
  happens, perfect, we're going to probably get pass interference.
• 56:26
  You're going to have the ball down at the one where we're not
• 56:29
  going to be what we were, but we're not going to become a
• 56:32
  swak. That for all y'all, Young Folks,
• 56:36
  go review swaggin. What the fuck happened?
• 56:38
  30 years ago. Yep, history lesson it's
• 56:42
  happened before. So when we look at the big 12
• 56:46
  rbr, they essentially right now kind of what the Big East was
• 56:50
  after in the early 2000s after the departure of Virginia Tech
• 56:56
  and Miami. That's exactly what they were
• 56:59
  and they chose to stand Pat. Right?
• 57:03
  They didn't try to add teams. They didn't try to build up.
• 57:06
  We can make it like this and they freaking fell because the
• 57:11
  teams that had viable decent football program or viable
• 57:15
  markets just piece like nope because this is not going to
• 57:19
  work. And in this case, that's why I
• 57:24
  think you do that. That's why you think you just
• 57:26
  throw it to the wall and just say this is what we're going to
• 57:29
  do and have a dollars and cents perspective.
• 57:33
  This is definitely a bigger blow to the Big 12 than what that was
• 57:36
  to the Big East much bigger much bigger because I think it's the
• 57:41
  time frame of where we are. In the early 2000s the contracts
• 57:44
  went. They weren't what they were.
• 57:47
  Yep. All right let's hit the last
• 57:49
  couple topics here. They basically said we're not
• 57:53
  going to handcuff any other out of conference game so they
• 57:56
  basically are keeping all your rivalries alive.
• 57:59
  You know, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina.
• 58:02
  That's not Shocking because I don't think they're trying to
• 58:04
  play bully ball. I just think they're trying to
• 58:06
  hold leverage and say you're not going to run the show.
• 58:10
  They're trying to hold leverage and then they're trying to
• 58:12
  create some unique matchups within this to gain that
• 58:16
  leverage when it comes to college football playoff stuff.
• 58:18
  Yeah. So we'll still have those maybe
• 58:21
  even create some new ones. Now the last piece we're going
• 58:25
  to hit here and this was near the end of it was Pat Club big
• 58:29
  tender at nine games acc's a date.
• 58:33
  The way that conversation was flowing by, I don't know if you
• 58:36
  were watching it live. I truly think and this is why I
• 58:41
  think you're going to have multiple crossovers year between
• 58:44
  these two conquer. These three conferences is
• 58:51
  they're going to have a conference games.
• 58:54
  We're not going to go up. We're going to go down because
• 58:56
  what we're going to do, we're going to, we're going to keep
• 58:59
  going to squeeze the conferences in so we can get these two
• 59:03
  games, probably one more P5 game and then likely a G5 game.
• 59:08
  Yep. And I think that's a good move
• 59:10
  because it gives you the opportunity to work those
• 59:12
  schedules. Like we were talking about, get
• 59:15
  the interesting crossover matchups.
• 59:17
  Get some intriguing college football playoff ramifications.
• 59:21
  Games with non-traditional opponents.
• 59:25
  So I think that's going to be good across the board.
• 59:28
  And then in terms of the conference 8, gains more or less
• 59:31
  is enough, especially with conferences as large as 14.
• 59:35
  Yeah, a vs9, does it really change a whole lot?
• 59:40
  Not a lot. What it helps you do though, is
• 59:43
  it's going to give you more markets and people are asking
• 59:47
  why do you do this? If you go out west and you get
• 59:50
  four more larger TV, Markets. Again, you're expanding your
• 59:54
  Aces and some people say well that's stupid.
• 59:56
  Why would Virginia Tech want to try to expand into California?
• 1:00:01
  Because there's a lot of football players in California.
• 1:00:05
  It makes sense to the West Coast teams.
• 1:00:07
  Let's get on the East Coast for the East Coast.
• 1:00:09
  Let's get on the West Coast. Simply that's the revenue in
• 1:00:12
  general from the TV money. I mean they're more eyes on it
• 1:00:16
  on the screen drives that money up, man.
• 1:00:19
  That's that's what it's all about.
• 1:00:21
  Dance. Like more games, they get more
• 1:00:23
  eyes on them. Then that's a good thing.
• 1:00:26
  There's nothing more intriguing than competitive teams.
• 1:00:30
  Playing non-traditional opponents in games that fucking
• 1:00:32
  matter. Bingo buddy.
• 1:00:35
  All right guys. So before we get further into
• 1:00:38
  the main topic tonight of us, predicting the hole, Season
• 1:00:42
  record. We are going to take a quick
• 1:00:44
  pause for a message from our digital partner.
• 1:00:46
  All right, buddy, we are back here after our brief break there
• 1:00:51
  and we're going to get right into the main topic.
• 1:00:55
  So we're talking about our prediction for the Hokies season
• 1:00:57
  in 2021. And before we really get into
• 1:01:03
  what we think on the gains that are that matter, we're going to
• 1:01:07
  go ahead and put six games in the W column, right?
• 1:01:14
  Out the gate. We feel like on paper, The Hokey
• 1:01:17
  should win these games. Barring catastrophic injuries.
• 1:01:20
  That happened during the season, so that is Middle Tennessee,
• 1:01:25
  State. University of Richmond,
• 1:01:28
  Syracuse. Georgia, Tech Duke and UVA.
• 1:01:34
  Based on what we think about this team.
• 1:01:37
  We feel like Virginia Tech should handle their business
• 1:01:40
  against these teams. Yes, we came to a consensus last
• 1:01:45
  week after talking with Brett getting deeper into pick six,
• 1:01:50
  previews article reading, some other Publications, kind of
• 1:01:54
  talking seeing in general. We should win all six of these
• 1:01:57
  games. if we lose one or potentially multiple of these
• 1:02:03
  games, heads should roll, In certain people should not be in
• 1:02:08
  positions. Come roughly, December 8th.
• 1:02:13
  Thing is the timeframe this year.
• 1:02:15
  On paper, we match up significantly.
• 1:02:17
  With all these teams, these teams are all struggling.
• 1:02:20
  I know everybody keeps telling me, Middle, Tennessee, State,
• 1:02:22
  and Florida State players. There's a reason Florida State
• 1:02:25
  players left Florida. State in, did not land at any
• 1:02:28
  other school, but Middle Tennessee.
• 1:02:30
  I'm sorry. You can say they're athletic,
• 1:02:32
  they're great. If they were that great, they
• 1:02:35
  would have found their way onto a piece.
• 1:02:37
  Boxing. Do you agree with that run?
• 1:02:39
  That's a fair assessment. I mean I think they could still
• 1:02:44
  be what I would consider starting caliber players on
• 1:02:48
  power 5 schools. I don't think their game
• 1:02:50
  changers and I think that's the difference there, you know,
• 1:02:54
  we're not talking about someone that's going to go out there,
• 1:02:58
  and if they were on a power 5 team, they'd be a potential
• 1:03:03
  all-conference player. These are guys that if they were
• 1:03:06
  on a power five Squad, that probably maybe start, maybe a
• 1:03:10
  rotational player. They're trying to go and be a
• 1:03:13
  star for a Middle, Tennessee State.
• 1:03:16
  So that's my assessment. I think you're pretty much spot
• 1:03:20
  on there. And, you know, we've got several
• 1:03:25
  other conference teams there that are just, you know, we
• 1:03:29
  talked about it last week, Syracuse is flailing, Duke is
• 1:03:33
  awful. Georgia Tech is unpredictable
• 1:03:38
  and UVA, doesn't have a secondary, and I'm not sure if
• 1:03:43
  they've got enough defense elsewhere to compensate for it.
• 1:03:46
  There you go, so there's our assessment.
• 1:03:49
  So, the go ahead, write that down.
• 1:03:50
  Everybody. Currently we are at six and up.
• 1:03:56
  Let's jump buddy, first game of the season, North Carolina.
• 1:04:01
  I'll let you lead on this one. All you're going to Let Me Lie,
• 1:04:05
  buddy. Yeah, so we're going to come
• 1:04:07
  into Lane Stadium next Friday night, 6 p.m.
• 1:04:10
  ESPN, five and a half Point favorites on the road in the
• 1:04:15
  terror Dome and I'm sitting here and they're ranked and it got
• 1:04:19
  Sam. How man he's gonna be a number
• 1:04:22
  one particular texture. He is all number one, pick,
• 1:04:24
  great player. I decided to do some math.
• 1:04:28
  Okay, in this is what I found out.
• 1:04:31
  So, Michael Carter. Running back.
• 1:04:36
  Gone. Correct.
• 1:04:37
  Yep. Devante Williams running back
• 1:04:39
  gone. Correct.
• 1:04:40
  Yep. Tommy Brown running back going.
• 1:04:43
  Correct? Yep.
• 1:04:44
  City wide receiver wide receiver.
• 1:04:47
  Dad's new. Some wide receiver going.
• 1:04:49
  Correct. Correct.
• 1:04:51
  Are they sitting in the transfer portal or on another team for a
• 1:04:55
  grad? Transfer year?
• 1:04:59
  No, they are all in NFL Training Camps.
• 1:05:02
  All making rosters. By the way, Brian Michael Court
• 1:05:07
  in the New York Jets is running back.
• 1:05:08
  Late rounds next. Uh next Tuesday night, ha ha ha.
• 1:05:13
  So we're drafting next Tuesday. Guess yeah.
• 1:05:15
  We've got a fan together. All those guys are gone in their
• 1:05:19
  careers, which primarily is the last two seasons, they made up
• 1:05:26
  10,000 and 42 yards from scrimmage and eighty three
• 1:05:31
  touchdowns. All of that is gone.
• 1:05:35
  I think Bo Corrales is a good receiver.
• 1:05:37
  I don't think boat Corrales can make up that much production
• 1:05:43
  along with guys who have really never played. and lastly, last
• 1:05:52
  week was mentioned that they're returning all five of their
• 1:05:55
  starters on the offensive line. Well, that's good.
• 1:06:01
  But when an offensive line gives up sacks, her attempt 104 out,
• 1:06:07
  120 teams, that ain't great Bob. And without those two Dynamic
• 1:06:12
  running backs to run that RPO offense I think the Hokies are
• 1:06:17
  going to shock the world next Friday.
• 1:06:19
  We'll get into a deeper next week.
• 1:06:22
  Give me a w to lead off the season run so I am it.
• 1:06:26
  Stepping it up. Curtis with the Hokie upset to
• 1:06:30
  lead things off there. Where you at not so fast.
• 1:06:35
  My friend. Oh man, well, folks.
• 1:06:38
  Go ahead. Put bribes at 6 and 10 I think I
• 1:06:43
  think this is going to be a very close game, but I think the
• 1:06:47
  experience of Sam Howell and the Improvement of that defense and
• 1:06:52
  probably our offense while not anemic or anything by that
• 1:06:58
  nature. Taking probably a small step
• 1:07:00
  back especially in the running game.
• 1:07:02
  I think we're going to have, we're not going to have the
• 1:07:05
  ability to put up quite as many points as we were able to
• 1:07:07
  especially in the second half last year.
• 1:07:10
  And I think just the experience of how that offensive line and
• 1:07:14
  that improved defense is going to be enough to get them over
• 1:07:16
  the hump. So I predict a somewhat high
• 1:07:19
  scoring game kind of like a 3833 3835 somewhere in that that
• 1:07:26
  range but I think UNC pulls the W.
• 1:07:28
  All right, so Brian has just taken the loss at UNC.
• 1:07:31
  I have a stake in the w. We will get deeper into this
• 1:07:35
  game next week, folks, who join us back here.
• 1:07:37
  Same time, and watch it. All right, let's move on.
• 1:07:40
  On we've already checked at Middle Tennessee State off.
• 1:07:43
  Now, we're going to go to West Virginia, Braun, what do you
• 1:07:46
  think happens with the black diamond trophy about a month
• 1:07:50
  from now? Well, buddy, we are keeping the
• 1:07:55
  Black Diamond trophy. Go on.
• 1:07:59
  I think on paper are a better team.
• 1:08:01
  I think we're going to be able to score enough points against
• 1:08:03
  this team even with some step back in our offense.
• 1:08:06
  And I think our improved defense is going to do just enough in
• 1:08:10
  that raucous atmosphere to pull out a lake w.
• 1:08:15
  All right. I'm going to dump now.
• 1:08:23
  I have seven and one I think we lose this game because I think
• 1:08:27
  the home field advantage is going to be massive for them
• 1:08:30
  even at a noon kick, which it's going to be.
• 1:08:34
  I think that is going to be one of the biggest things is, we
• 1:08:37
  know, from our days of being fans of long time ago.
• 1:08:41
  When we played every year, that is not a fun place to play, they
• 1:08:45
  are a bunch of assholes. Throw shit.
• 1:08:48
  They do a lot of dirty shit. I think they're really burning
• 1:08:51
  couches, burning couches, but I think they are yearning to get
• 1:08:55
  that trophy back. They haven't had it in 17 years.
• 1:08:59
  Now besides that couple other reasons, they lost three really
• 1:09:04
  key defenders in Tyreke Smith Draiman and Darius Stills
• 1:09:08
  obviously Darius still, I think everybody knows Derek Stills.
• 1:09:11
  Were pretty high in the draft was really looked at Harlan
• 1:09:14
  defensive line, but they still turn a turn.
• 1:09:16
  Turn a Ton of production on the defensive side of the ball.
• 1:09:21
  So I think that is going to be one thing with the raucous
• 1:09:24
  crowd. Again, we're not a terrible
• 1:09:26
  offense, but we're not good enough to probably overcome both
• 1:09:29
  of those things. Now, one thing that does give me
• 1:09:33
  pause Is your quarterback Garrett Dodge.
• 1:09:38
  He is a non-jew threat quarterback so you don't have to
• 1:09:41
  worry about his legs and he's not a good deep passer of the
• 1:09:47
  ball. So it's one of those things
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  where even though I see us losing, I think a tight game.
• 1:09:57
  I think a tight game. Right.
• 1:09:59
  Right now, as we sit, I mean, some you super tight talk to me
• 1:10:02
  three weeks from now, once we beat Carolina and maybe Middle,
• 1:10:07
  Tennessee, State. And I'm six beers deep on a
• 1:10:09
  Wednesday night, maybe I changed my mind.
• 1:10:12
  But right now, I just don't think it's going to be enough.
• 1:10:15
  We're probably going to lose like a 35-point game there at
• 1:10:18
  the moment. Okay Brian.
• 1:10:22
  Let's go to Notre Dame. You will meet a go.
• 1:10:26
  You want to go? I'll let you leave this one,
• 1:10:29
  buddy. You're going to let me leave
• 1:10:31
  this one, maybe this is the trend here.
• 1:10:34
  I absolutely toggled with this one back and forth over and over
• 1:10:41
  and over. And then when I talked with
• 1:10:44
  bread and we had our conversation with Brett and as
• 1:10:48
  he discussed, Jack Conte and book, I think Ian book is an
• 1:10:52
  exceptional, Collegiate quarterback has potential to be
• 1:10:54
  an NFL quarterback. Be a little bit bigger than arm.
• 1:10:58
  I think you would have been probably the first two round
• 1:11:00
  pick with the big piece. That Brent discussing it just
• 1:11:07
  kept grinding, that me, one of the guys is on the 49ers and
• 1:11:10
  Arron Banks, one of the guards, they lost four offensive line
• 1:11:13
  starters. Three of those guys went in the
• 1:11:17
  first three rounds of the draft. If you're going in the first
• 1:11:20
  three rounds of the draft, you are either going to be an
• 1:11:23
  immediate starter and or an immediate swing player
• 1:11:26
  immediately in the NFL. Yep.
• 1:11:30
  And you know the total return of production you know, isn't
• 1:11:34
  terrible on the offense. It's not that bad overall but
• 1:11:41
  when you lose your quarterback the core of your offensive line
• 1:11:44
  and you know the Fence, you know, their return, a lot of
• 1:11:48
  good starters to on the defensive line 2 and line backer
• 1:11:51
  room. One in the back end.
• 1:11:53
  They're under Freeman now. So it's, you know, we're going
• 1:11:57
  to have about a month paper on Freeman before we go into that
• 1:11:59
  game. You know, like to learn
• 1:12:01
  multiple, you know, he likes to do things different.
• 1:12:06
  But I think because of the way our defensive line Looks in the
• 1:12:11
  first date. I think this is going to be a
• 1:12:15
  rehash. You ready?
• 1:12:16
  For the game Run. She's going to rehash of 2019.
• 1:12:21
  But there's going to be. If you scramble from Braxton
• 1:12:25
  Burmeister late, I think we look at that game as a one-possession
• 1:12:29
  a one field goal game but I think when they gets his biggest
• 1:12:33
  win in the arrow. So right there, I'm at 18 1.
• 1:12:38
  What about you? I got this one as a loss, as
• 1:12:43
  well, man. Yeah, and it really comes down
• 1:12:48
  to a couple factors, it's going to be Karen Williams, Chris
• 1:12:52
  Tyree, and a defense that returns a lot of production.
• 1:12:57
  I think Marcus Freeman is going to potentially get even a little
• 1:13:01
  bit more out of those ranked with running the multiple
• 1:13:05
  because you're going to see a little bit of a different look
• 1:13:08
  and offenses, will be able to get comfortable and make any
• 1:13:10
  keys. And I think there's with the
• 1:13:12
  returning production, you're not going to see a drop-off in the
• 1:13:15
  top end level of play for them while.
• 1:13:18
  I think that's going to be a big impact on their all their
• 1:13:20
  offense losing you know for multi-year starters three of
• 1:13:26
  which were draft picks to in the second round.
• 1:13:29
  One of the third I just I'm not sure if that alone is going to
• 1:13:35
  be enough for us to get over the hump against them, at that point
• 1:13:38
  of the Season. All right, well, let me ask
• 1:13:40
  this. Before we close this down.
• 1:13:42
  Brian is now seven and two. I made in one good Lord we're
• 1:13:46
  going to go to the coastal chance.
• 1:13:47
  We're going with the coastal if I keep going like this, let me
• 1:13:50
  ask this. Do you see this being a rehash
• 1:13:53
  of 2019 or 2018? I think it's going to be closer
• 1:14:00
  to 2090. I think this is definitely a
• 1:14:02
  close down to the wire game. You're going to see.
• 1:14:04
  This is an absolute dog fight at night in.
• 1:14:07
  Yeah, I think we're going to struggle up and down.
• 1:14:10
  I think we'll be able to move the ball somewhat against them
• 1:14:12
  but I think we have a hard time finding the end zone and I think
• 1:14:17
  they're going to have they're gonna hit some big plays against
• 1:14:20
  us in the running game but they're going to struggle to
• 1:14:21
  move the ball consistently in the passing game.
• 1:14:25
  Because we'll be able to get after their quarterback so that
• 1:14:28
  that's how I think the game is going to go, nothing's gonna be
• 1:14:31
  a tight one down at the end, but I think they'll just have enough
• 1:14:33
  gas to get over the hump against us.
• 1:14:35
  All right. Again, folks, talk to us and
• 1:14:37
  five weeks. We might have very different
• 1:14:39
  opinions on this, you know. And again, this is us looking
• 1:14:43
  where we are now in. I think as we get to kind of the
• 1:14:47
  Middle Point here, this is what it is.
• 1:14:50
  This is what we're seeing as we are now.
• 1:14:53
  I think I'm looking at an Mystical and I think Brian's a
• 1:14:56
  football player that's been on the field, a lot more than me.
• 1:14:58
  So he's taking a little bit of a different look, but if y'all are
• 1:15:02
  coming in at us in three weeks and we'll Curtis, you said we're
• 1:15:04
  going to lose West Virginia. Now, you got us winning why?
• 1:15:07
  Well, because I've seen Game tape and it's different
• 1:15:11
  opinions. All right?
• 1:15:13
  Brian? I'm going to let you leave this
• 1:15:15
  one. Yeah, comes to Lane stadium in
• 1:15:17
  October. What do you think on that one?
• 1:15:22
  That's a fucking W for the Hokies that in our dues.
• 1:15:25
  He cannot win in Lane. We're going to eat.
• 1:15:28
  Kenny pick it alive. It's going to be fun.
• 1:15:33
  Like at this point can he pick? It is what he is there to live
• 1:15:37
  and die by what he's able to do and how much they're able to
• 1:15:41
  help him in every game. I think that defense takes a big
• 1:15:44
  step back this year, losing a lot of talent to the NFL.
• 1:15:48
  And I don't think all of a sudden, can he pick?
• 1:15:50
  It is going to be a new new player.
• 1:15:52
  We know, we know his floor and we know his ceiling and I think
• 1:15:57
  we're going to get more of the same, but I think we're going to
• 1:15:59
  be doing a lot. Better job of making him
• 1:16:02
  uncomfortable. This year and just for some
• 1:16:04
  reason when we play pit in Lane it is completely different than
• 1:16:08
  playing pit in Heinz Field. Exactly.
• 1:16:12
  You know what Whitney's to like schedule that game every year
• 1:16:14
  and make it be at FedEx. Now we do not know, let's just
• 1:16:18
  do it at FedEx. It's a little point for
• 1:16:19
  everybody. Y'all can't put anybody in the
• 1:16:21
  stands anyway. We have agreed for the first
• 1:16:25
  time and I Braun I say we take the W similar lot of stuff.
• 1:16:30
  You said you know pits offenses bringing a ton of production
• 1:16:34
  back and you take less the Virginia Tech game last year
• 1:16:38
  that offense was not good. It did not produce and kill.
• 1:16:42
  Kenny pig is still the quarterback.
• 1:16:43
  We know what he can do, what he can do.
• 1:16:45
  So where's your one big piece in the defense you already
• 1:16:48
  mentioned? They lost a ton.
• 1:16:50
  They really lost their top. Five players in Hamlin Ford
• 1:16:55
  Wyman. There to their two, best players
• 1:16:58
  in the secondary. Their three best players on the
• 1:16:59
  defense of huh? And I mean they had a couple of
• 1:17:02
  young guys that DT get, you know, All-American nods.
• 1:17:06
  But I don't and they can definitely ramp up and get some
• 1:17:09
  production back on that fence blonde.
• 1:17:10
  I don't think they get enough production back to get them
• 1:17:13
  where they need to be to beat Team like Virginia Tech.
• 1:17:16
  I also wonder if Kenny picket can't play, if the hit ad
• 1:17:21
  finally says, dude, you stuck with this guy for three bleep in
• 1:17:25
  years, he's not Good. Do something different or you're
• 1:17:29
  fired? I think that's the problem is
• 1:17:31
  getting, it's not the Kenny Pickett isn't good, it's that
• 1:17:33
  he's not good enough to hide all the other deficiencies that they
• 1:17:37
  have on that offense and but but they expect that of him, they
• 1:17:42
  put that on him and he's just not that guy.
• 1:17:45
  Now they have whether they have that.
• 1:17:47
  Got on the roster is another question.
• 1:17:49
  I don't think they do necessarily I think Kenny
• 1:17:51
  pickets their best option at quarterback but that doesn't
• 1:17:54
  mean that he's the guy that's going to get it done.
• 1:17:57
  So Kenny pick it is their best option at quarterback.
• 1:18:00
  Are you that what you're saying? Yeah, well you can't pick.
• 1:18:05
  Its record is 21 and 17 in three seasons and we're probably going
• 1:18:10
  to see just above five hundred play from them again this year
• 1:18:14
  guys. It's going to be six and six or
• 1:18:15
  seven and five seven and five get bank that shit right now.
• 1:18:20
  All right. Maybe that's when we do lay, we
• 1:18:23
  lay on the apps here, pit. Under whatever their number is,
• 1:18:27
  I think it is seven and a half. So I think we feel safe on that.
• 1:18:30
  Let's move on Brian. Let's go to be A game last year
• 1:18:35
  that, you know, it looked like a blowout, you did it look like an
• 1:18:39
  absolute destruction. It was 42 14, or something like
• 1:18:43
  that. We won by more than three
• 1:18:45
  touchdowns. Sorry, I don't remember the
• 1:18:47
  number on, but we force five turnovers and you know the story
• 1:18:54
  kind of coming in 4 BC, this year's can Frank.
• 1:18:56
  Cignetti a guy who was coach for a long time NFL and college
• 1:19:01
  coach some good quarterbacks along as Away, can he have
• 1:19:04
  filled your canvas take that step?
• 1:19:07
  Because they house, they have one of the best offensive lines
• 1:19:09
  about owning the ACC. But in the country they have a
• 1:19:11
  bunch of good weapons. Its kind of struggling with the
• 1:19:14
  running back position, but I think with a guy like jerk
• 1:19:17
  eviction the weapons on the outside that can be hidden.
• 1:19:20
  I think he's going to take the step and, you know, on the
• 1:19:24
  fence. It's can a secondary disk
• 1:19:27
  progress up because they run a victory and a half.
• 1:19:31
  They want to cover 1, cover three scheme, That's what
• 1:19:33
  they're running. That's the look.
• 1:19:35
  You're going to get there. They're not variation.
• 1:19:38
  I'm giving you multiples. That's what they do.
• 1:19:42
  So if that can take a step and I think jerky, which is going to
• 1:19:45
  take a step and I think if this was a Saturday game may be
• 1:19:52
  coming off of, you know, a normal week, we'd be able to
• 1:19:55
  pull the W, but I'm going to give us the L here and maybe the
• 1:20:01
  only thing I can see is Is maybe they're good and they're like
• 1:20:06
  six six or seven Lynch coming in in the Stadium's, a little bit
• 1:20:10
  electric to where it gives our guys some juice.
• 1:20:12
  But that's the end. You know, I think jerk a bitch
• 1:20:15
  is actually going to become a first-round quarterback because
• 1:20:19
  of what he is probably going to Pittsburgh.
• 1:20:22
  Okay. Okay.
• 1:20:23
  What do you think he's going to be become literally
• 1:20:26
  Roethlisberger 2.0, though. Exactly.
• 1:20:28
  Where the last name one person. Okay, okay, I'm right there with
• 1:20:34
  you bud. I've got this one as an L, as
• 1:20:37
  well, and it comes down to jirka Vic.
• 1:20:40
  It comes down to what I think will be a slightly improved
• 1:20:46
  defense. Especially in terms of limiting,
• 1:20:48
  the big explosive plays especially from the Position and
• 1:20:55
  I think just an extra year of season is going to be just
• 1:20:57
  enough to get them over the hump because that game was not as
• 1:20:59
  close was a lot closer than I should say.
• 1:21:02
  A lot closer than what the scoreboard indicated last year.
• 1:21:06
  You mentioned the five turnovers you when you have five turnovers
• 1:21:11
  but you only have that that margin of Victory.
• 1:21:13
  I mean tells you that that's a pretty close game.
• 1:21:16
  That was probably a one score game.
• 1:21:18
  If they play to their average in terms of turnover, Differential
• 1:21:22
  right. Being yeah, pretty much, you
• 1:21:25
  know? But that is what it is.
• 1:21:28
  All right, Brian. So currently now, I'm not into
• 1:21:35
  your Aiden 3 so we're not that far off from one another What do
• 1:21:41
  you think about Miami? But that's going to be know I'll
• 1:21:49
  damn even even losing all their defensive line.
• 1:21:54
  Yeah I think they do a pretty good job of reloading and I
• 1:21:58
  think that the Eric King is going to have a monster year if
• 1:22:03
  he can remain healthy. I'm not looking forward to this
• 1:22:09
  game very much you know they didn't do too bad in terms of
• 1:22:13
  returning Talent they return some of their their production
• 1:22:18
  from last year but really A lot of the production of offense and
• 1:22:23
  a good amount on defense. So this may be the year that
• 1:22:29
  Manny Diaz figures it out and kind of gets them to play
• 1:22:33
  consistently to their level of talent compared to having those
• 1:22:39
  about two or three, Clunkers in the year that either they lose,
• 1:22:43
  or they play down to an opponent that they should and barely
• 1:22:46
  scrape out a win. So I think look for them to
• 1:22:51
  potentially. Also this other potentially push
• 1:22:56
  you and see for the ACC Coastal Championship.
• 1:22:59
  All right, so bronze, kind of locked it in.
• 1:23:01
  Here. He is now eight wins for losses
• 1:23:04
  for the Hokies essentially probably finishing any somewhere
• 1:23:08
  between second and third, right? Depending on what happened to
• 1:23:11
  say, for the third third and the coastal.
• 1:23:13
  I've got, actually, my Emmy winning the coastal.
• 1:23:15
  A Miami one in the coaster. All right.
• 1:23:17
  Well, I'm taking this. Anil as well, folks.
• 1:23:20
  But let me just say this everything is determined on
• 1:23:23
  Derek Kings health of how they do this year.
• 1:23:27
  Those two other guys are not even close to ready.
• 1:23:30
  Come November, they still will not be as close to ready and
• 1:23:33
  there's one thing that kind of caught my that what makes the
• 1:23:38
  are king So Special. If you look Thank you, thank you
• 1:23:46
  T. SS M for saying this is cool.
• 1:23:48
  Thank you for this. There's one thing I looked at
• 1:23:52
  Brown that will probably shock you from last year.
• 1:23:54
  Miami's elusive plays wasn't was significantly in the red last
• 1:24:00
  year. Okay, on both sides of the ball
• 1:24:03
  or on machine on both sides but on passing and running nails.
• 1:24:07
  But that team was still able to put up over 440 yards of offense
• 1:24:11
  a game and over 34 points a game.
• 1:24:15
  That's why I say this is the Fate lies on how the Eric King
• 1:24:18
  is coming off as a CEO because the way it seems is teams
• 1:24:23
  respected. His running ability so much,
• 1:24:26
  they were not going to give up the big runs, right?
• 1:24:29
  They weren't, but what they did, because of that, you are getting
• 1:24:33
  the Old Death By A Thousand Seven yard cut. they were
• 1:24:40
  getting yards if you take the air King out of this offense, I
• 1:24:45
  think they finish not first. Not second, not third.
• 1:24:48
  I think they finished fourth in the coaster.
• 1:24:50
  Let us live with you. They will.
• 1:24:53
  This will be a very live and die by here.
• 1:24:55
  Healthy, dear King. Is it really is?
• 1:24:57
  If he, if he plays 12 games, I think it's there.
• 1:25:01
  There right there with you and see to win the coastal.
• 1:25:04
  Yep, if he plays, I think it's pretty much a toss-up, if he's
• 1:25:07
  healthy for 12 games, if he plays every game, they win the
• 1:25:10
  coastal. They, when you're with me,
• 1:25:13
  you're picking them to win the coastal to I'm with you if he's
• 1:25:16
  healthy, they when the coastal. Okay, we finished second though
• 1:25:20
  because I think, oh, he's just throw the, I got us - I've got a
• 1:25:25
  smile and if you've got them, probably what 10 into 10 into,
• 1:25:31
  we're will be, they'll be tending to Alabama, they'll
• 1:25:35
  probably screw up one other time.
• 1:25:37
  They'll do a typical - so you think that game is going to
• 1:25:39
  decide the coastal. Yep, because I think you and
• 1:25:43
  sees not only going to lose to us.
• 1:25:46
  I think UNC about UNC schedule here.
• 1:25:49
  This is the great. Wonderful thing of streaming
• 1:25:52
  folks, Brian usually could edit this, to make it not seem as
• 1:25:55
  long everything in real time. Lee isn't operating in real
• 1:26:00
  reliable. That means.
• 1:26:04
  So I think UNC is going to use to us.
• 1:26:09
  I think UNC is going to lose to Miami.
• 1:26:13
  And I think UNC is going to get tripped up by NC State.
• 1:26:18
  I could see that in feast and definitely seemed to watch out
• 1:26:22
  and potential Notre Dame because they play Notre Dame, much they
• 1:26:26
  play Notre Dame three weeks after we played them.
• 1:26:29
  So you got UNC pulling 3 plus losses for their lose.
• 1:26:34
  Four games are going to go ahead, a okay, they're going to
• 1:26:37
  go in for and is NC. State is probably the team that
• 1:26:41
  could snake bite them this year. And that's a lot of getting from
• 1:26:45
  weekend. Probably, that I'm pretty.
• 1:26:48
  Hi on NC State. I should say I'm a lot higher on
• 1:26:51
  n.c. state than I have been in any point the the last Five
• 1:26:57
  years, at least, I mean, his in Sea, state is probably the one
• 1:27:00
  team in the Atlantic to watch out for exactly.
• 1:27:04
  So I'm not in three bronze eight.
• 1:27:06
  Informed, that is our current predictions entertainment
• 1:27:10
  purposes, only Billy Ray. What is happening, buddy?
• 1:27:18
  On the Saturday shall know that. We appreciate you guys watching
• 1:27:21
  us tonight. So we let me ask this Braun
• 1:27:25
  either of our records black Monday comes.
• 1:27:29
  This just point, they still have a job if he wants it.
• 1:27:34
  I think at this point given what we saw for the happened last
• 1:27:38
  year, if it's a Twins or better, I think we're looking at another
• 1:27:44
  year of Justin Fuente. I think you're right.
• 1:27:49
  I think he wins is the threshold if he wins nine.
• 1:27:53
  Well we're all happy not completely happy because the
• 1:27:56
  gold every mistake, I think the threshold could be potentially
• 1:27:59
  lower in necessarily say that that's a good thing.
• 1:28:02
  I'm just saying I think based on the information we got from last
• 1:28:06
  year I think I'm mining that with we're in the middle of a
• 1:28:10
  major campaign for Reach For Excellence.
• 1:28:14
  I feel like just there's a lot of factors where Wit may not
• 1:28:18
  want to upset the apple cart unless things, get ugly, got it.
• 1:28:23
  And when I say that, I mean, no bowl, no, no, UVA win essential
• 1:28:29
  essentially, those six games. I said we're booking.
• 1:28:34
  We're putting you began the Elle column and then yeah, and that's
• 1:28:39
  when we get in trouble and that's when we started having
• 1:28:41
  similar conversations that we had last offseason and I'm not
• 1:28:45
  saying that that's necessarily my expectations of what I think
• 1:28:49
  we should do. I'm just saying, I feel like
• 1:28:51
  based on the information that we have, that's the most likely
• 1:28:55
  outcome. Awesome.
• 1:28:57
  All right. So folks, we got a, we got a, we
• 1:29:01
  got a big question here from the sun's real quick before we close
• 1:29:03
  out. What game scares you more BC or
• 1:29:08
  pit so at BC or pit in Lane BC 100% 1000%?
• 1:29:15
  No. 138 percent ever seen that on the commitment to the 138
• 1:29:20
  percent, BC scares me more because we know what we get on
• 1:29:25
  offense from pit sons and we know on defense, you don't
• 1:29:31
  replace that many guys that go to the league.
• 1:29:34
  Become an elite unit, and even with the elite unit they had
• 1:29:39
  last year. If you remember that game Braun,
• 1:29:40
  we were pissed but it literally took us to the third quarter to
• 1:29:44
  get pissed. It's not like they came out and
• 1:29:47
  it's not like them at Lane in 2019 when we were there and
• 1:29:52
  after the first quarter, we just knew his games over there.
• 1:29:57
  Yeah, you gotta be see. I mean, say what you will about
• 1:30:00
  the stadium size, but they get it rocking up there in Chestnut
• 1:30:03
  Hill, man. Now, and that's why I'm hoping
• 1:30:06
  they have a good record because a Friday night game up there.
• 1:30:11
  If it's rocking and get some electricity, it will definitely
• 1:30:14
  give a better chance for us. If we go up there and they're
• 1:30:17
  like four and four. And I know that's been us saying
• 1:30:20
  with jirka bitch didn't take a step with your coverage.
• 1:30:22
  Could take a step that defense doesn't.
• 1:30:24
  They could still be myth, but if there's no juice in that
• 1:30:26
  stadium, so tough for guys to get up for yep.
• 1:30:30
  Alright number, so believe it or not brawn, This is our last
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  broadcast of 2021 with no college football bloody yes,
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  sir. We got real games.
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  This weekend, ladies and gentlemen, re games conference
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  games. Not the best late.
• 1:30:52
  You've got one, two, three, four, five, yeah, 5 games.
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  I like that TW o SM, it needs to be a win.
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  BC is going to be tough. I agree.
• 1:31:05
  We got five games Saturday. We kick off and we're going to
• 1:31:08
  pick two of them today. Y'all know, we normally pick all
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  the ACC games involved or most of them.
• 1:31:14
  Sometimes it's ones like we don't even try to look at and at
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  least maybe a couple big game, but we're going to games this
• 1:31:19
  week. We're looking at the Nebraska
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  Illinois game and the Hawaii UCLA game.
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  Let's start Nebraska, Illinois, Braun.
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  And what We've got here is Nebraska's on the road.
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  Scott Frost is in deep shit. All over the place between not
• 1:31:34
  games in the assemble a shit and you've got Illinois Bret,
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  Bielema takes over to Illinois. Back in Big Ten, country back in
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  somewhere he's comfortable. Here's the line.
• 1:31:48
  Nebraska is lame 7. This is a tell annoy 55 is the
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  over under number the, one p.m. kick in for all those
• 1:31:57
  degenerates like us who will probably be?
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  I mean I'll be watching. It is going to be on Fox at
• 1:32:05
  1:00. Last year's meeting 4123
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  Illinois. So what are you thinking?
• 1:32:12
  This one brand taking a line and taking an over under which you
• 1:32:15
  got. I think Illinois is going to
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  cover. All right, so you're taking
• 1:32:23
  Illinois with the point, right? Yep.
• 1:32:26
  All right, so let's my God write that down.
• 1:32:30
  Um, I'm not screwing with the stinking spread, I'm just not.
• 1:32:37
  It's, it's too much going on. We don't know where Nebraska's
• 1:32:41
  head is. Bielema, is trying to install
• 1:32:43
  something new. They're probably going back to
• 1:32:44
  his Wisconsin, roots, in a big power game.
• 1:32:47
  Don't know if he has the players there for Alec Brian is on
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  Illinois. So I really am going to kind of
• 1:32:52
  pull for them. I am going to take the over 55.
• 1:32:56
  Okay. Okay.
• 1:32:57
  For me, you're staying, you're staying away from the spread
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  because there's too many variables wait.
• 1:33:02
  Umi variables. Also first games it, alright, if
• 1:33:06
  I forced your hand who you got in the spread, um, if you force
• 1:33:12
  me on the spread, I think I would take the Illinois, okay?
• 1:33:15
  It also could see Nebraska who has a really good defense
• 1:33:19
  locking down of converting offense.
• 1:33:23
  In winning by, you know, 14 17 points.
• 1:33:25
  But I'm going to go over because this game has not went under in
• 1:33:30
  like ever since they started playing each other in last few
• 1:33:32
  years. So I'm over 55.
• 1:33:34
  Brian is Illinois taking the points and their that is watch
• 1:33:40
  that game. I'm going to try to Lodge it.
• 1:33:43
  We've got some stuff going on Saturday but I think I'll be
• 1:33:45
  home by 1:00 to get the old man cave fired up here.
• 1:33:49
  Second game, Brian watching the West.
• 1:33:52
  It's Coast, Hawaii. CLA UCLA.
• 1:33:55
  Chip, Kelly is essentially in a make-or-break season for him.
• 1:33:59
  Absolutely, UCLA is laying 18 points in the over under is 68
• 1:34:04
  and a half, what you got. So I think it's two things here.
• 1:34:11
  UCLA does return a lot on offense, but They notoriously
• 1:34:16
  every season start a little slow.
• 1:34:19
  So I definitely have UCLA pulling this one out, but I
• 1:34:23
  think Hawaii with that spread you know, they have a lot of
• 1:34:28
  points to work with. I think they, they cover I'm
• 1:34:31
  with you on that. I think we'll why covers.
• 1:34:33
  I think UCLA wins over under. Um, I'd say overall, I think
• 1:34:38
  this is going to turn into a big shootout which is going to be
• 1:34:41
  great at 3:30 on a Saturday afternoon.
• 1:34:44
  Buddy, is anything broken in the last hour and 36 minutes?
• 1:34:50
  This one a long time? I haven't seen anything come
• 1:34:54
  across buddy. I think, I think we don't have
• 1:34:56
  any major break here, as we close out.
• 1:34:59
  Awesome. Well, folks, that is going to
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  wrap up this episode of The Boundary Corner podcast.
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