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The Golden Dawn | JJ Vance · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: guest today, JJ Vance is the host of Operation GCD podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and perhaps more notably, not the vice president. On operationing
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  Speaker 1: GCD podcast, JJ offers a Shenanigan infused journey into secret societies,
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  Speaker 1: occult groups in ancient mounds of America, and other taboo
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  Speaker 1: subjects in our modern era. JJ Vance, not vice President,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. How's it going?
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  Speaker 2: Writer?
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  Speaker 3: Greeting Sir, appreciate the invite and introduction and looking forward
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  Speaker 3: to the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Do people really think that you're the vice president?
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  Speaker 3: Not only do I get messages on twixter from folks
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  Speaker 3: that think that that I'm the vice president. Grock AI
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  Speaker 3: on Twister thinks I'm the vice president. I like to
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  Speaker 3: jokingly play with the AI to to make some images
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  Speaker 3: and stuff, and I keep telling it to make some
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  Speaker 3: operations g C D themed, you know, artwork and images,
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  Speaker 3: and it keeps pumping out images with jd Vance on it.
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  Speaker 2: So why does that? I'm not sure we clearly Grock thinks.
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  Speaker 3: Jd Vance hosts the Operation GCD podcast, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: Rocky is incorrect. JJ Vance hosts the Operation GCD podcast
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, not the vice president.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, that might be some good promotion though.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. That's a good bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, We've been a couple of shows together, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was time to bring you on over here.
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  Speaker 1: What got you started down this journey into a cult
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  Speaker 1: research and you know, investigating these secret societies and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: From my understanding, you were in the military, You were
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  Speaker 1: in the Air Force for a long time, and you
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  Speaker 1: traveled around and I got a lot of information that way.
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  Speaker 1: So how did this start for you since it's your
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  Speaker 1: first time on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely My background has definitely led me one
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  Speaker 3: hundred percent, my especially my childhood to where I'm at
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  Speaker 3: today with my interest in today's topic of ancient alien
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  Speaker 3: cargo cults.
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  Speaker 2: But to backtrack a bit there, Yeah, we've.
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  Speaker 3: Done a couple of shows together there right around on
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  Speaker 3: this subject of these ancient alien cargo cults. I definitely
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  Speaker 3: definitely appreciate your views and perspectives on this matter. You
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  Speaker 3: have a wealth of knowledge with amongst these different variant
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  Speaker 3: cults that you've documented on there on your podcast. And
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  Speaker 3: the last one we did was with Headless on Headless's show.
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  Speaker 3: You joined me on Operation GCD before, but we were
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  Speaker 3: a guest there on Headless's show, and you know, Headless
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  Speaker 3: had brought brought some interesting perspectives as well on the
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  Speaker 3: topic of this matter.
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  Speaker 2: Because there he is headless right there. Yep, could to see.
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  Speaker 3: It, but yeah, he you know he, I was unaware
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  Speaker 3: of this Johannes Kepler fellow in this you know, this
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  Speaker 3: early rosen Crucianism in America that was centered around this
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  Speaker 3: earlier kind of ancient alien apocalyptic cargo cult that existed
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  Speaker 3: right outside Philadelphia at the turn of the turn of
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  Speaker 3: the seventeenth century, right so like sixteen ninety five or so,
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  Speaker 3: I think it started. So yeah, so you know, I
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  Speaker 3: appreciate this conversation about in the past. Again, folks want
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  Speaker 3: to check those out. I highly recommend it. And and
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  Speaker 3: then again I think we we initially met over there
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  Speaker 3: only cult rejects when you were you and your associate
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  Speaker 3: Jay White or We're a guest on your JFK documentary,
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  Speaker 3: and that was a good piece of work there as well.
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  Speaker 3: I certainly enjoyed that, Andrew Cooprick, your Koprick documentary.
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  Speaker 1: Very much, man, I really appreciate it. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: work and time enough at goes into making these things,
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  Speaker 1: So appreciate your kind words. Where were you stationed in
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  Speaker 1: the military as a and what was your rank in
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  Speaker 1: the military, as in being in the Air Force.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, sure, yeah, I did twenty years and grew up
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  Speaker 3: a Mormon, like like any good Mormon I was. I
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  Speaker 3: was a boy Scout and Eagle Scout, And like most
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  Speaker 3: good Mormon Mormon boys, they go on a mission and
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  Speaker 3: they joined the military, you know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of the route. Uh you know, most of
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  Speaker 3: my peer group with them that I grew up with,
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  Speaker 3: at least the Mormon Church, you know, that's kind of
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  Speaker 3: how they went, you know. And uh so I joined
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  Speaker 3: the military at the age of seventeen, joined the Air Force.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want to go on a mission. And for
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  Speaker 3: the Mormons, I did go to seminary school though, so,
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  Speaker 3: which is a requirement if you want to go on
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  Speaker 3: a mission or you want to go to BYU.
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  Speaker 2: If you're Mormon, you got.
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  Speaker 3: To go to seminary school, which is you know, kind
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  Speaker 3: of a well it's they out They offered varying capacity.
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  Speaker 3: I did it for an hour and a half before
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  Speaker 3: high school. Every day I would go to the church
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  Speaker 3: and go do that. You know, their their education course
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  Speaker 3: for their their theologies and philosophies. You know and uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, deeper dive into those things and to get
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  Speaker 3: on a regular Sunday, right, and uh did that, grad
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  Speaker 3: did that and graduated again. I had no intent of
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  Speaker 3: going on a mission or to BYU, but you know
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  Speaker 3: my folks did at least, right, that's kind of where
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  Speaker 3: that they were they were directing me at. But I uh
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  Speaker 3: joined the joined the Air Force and hung up my uh,
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  Speaker 3: my magical underwear, my magical Mormon underwear at the age
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  Speaker 3: of twenty two there, so early on in my career,
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  Speaker 3: but I did. Uh, I did twenty years in the
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  Speaker 3: Military Police, Air Force, so a uh retired as a
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  Speaker 3: master sergeant at twenty years. I also made master sergeant.
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  Speaker 3: Some argue I was the youngest master sergeant at the
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  Speaker 3: time in the Air Force. I think I made it
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  Speaker 3: in just under ten years. But I was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six years old, so the had a meteoric rise.
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  Speaker 3: Was kind of the poster child of the Air Force
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  Speaker 3: Military Police for a number of years. SWAT team leader
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  Speaker 3: was a teenage SWAT team leader. That's what I like,
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  Speaker 3: That's what the joke around about. Technically I was twenty,
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  Speaker 3: but I looked like I was fourteen, So.
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  Speaker 1: What was your favorite country that you were stationed at
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  Speaker 1: her that you went to in the airport. I've never
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  Speaker 1: been outside of the country. I've never been outside of
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  Speaker 1: the United States. I always wanted to, but they imprinted
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  Speaker 1: hasn't presented itself yet for me to travel outside of
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  Speaker 1: the country. What was your favorite place that you were stationed.
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  Speaker 3: What's a good question, writer, So where have you been
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  Speaker 3: around the US that you've been. You've been around most
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  Speaker 3: of the US, you just haven't been outside of it.
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  Speaker 1: West coast to east coast. I've been pretty much Colorado, California, Arizona, Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've seen it all that. You've seen most of
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  Speaker 3: the US, and it sounds like.
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  Speaker 1: Besides, like the northern parts of the US. Have never
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  Speaker 1: been to north west coast or northeast coast farther up
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  Speaker 1: than Pennsylvania. I've never been to New York or anything.
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  Speaker 3: Oh Man, that's a gorgeous country up there. I'm a
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  Speaker 3: bootleg ver monster. I was born in Connecticut, raised in Vermont,
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia, and Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Some good land, good land, rich land out that way,
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  Speaker 1: But I just don't like to do the east Coast.
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  Speaker 1: The people are way different.
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  Speaker 3: It's super o tight, very krusty compared to the West Coast.
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  Speaker 2: I will agree with you on that.
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  Speaker 3: So I had the ability to travel all the United States,
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  Speaker 3: not only where I was stationed at in the Air Force,
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  Speaker 3: but I worked at headquarters in various headquarters assignments. The
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  Speaker 3: Air Force has multiple commands throughout you know their hierarchy,
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  Speaker 3: So I worked at some of the subordinate commands, and
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  Speaker 3: I worked at the DC Headquarters, Department of Air Force
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  Speaker 3: for number of years. Six actually in dcurve. I have
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  Speaker 3: the swamp six years. It's a fucking it's a nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: It's a nightmare. I get your brain, Rob dude, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know I have. I have no interest in politics,
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  Speaker 3: so never have. You know, only time I ever voted
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  Speaker 3: was was under Durest and that's a different story altogether.
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  Speaker 3: But the blong on the short visit, I've just never cared,
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  Speaker 3: you know, either either side of it. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: think they're both. Politics is a fancy word to not
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  Speaker 3: do the right thing, in my opinion, So the uh,
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  Speaker 3: they don't like that attitude in d C. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: you've you got to pick a side, and you don't
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  Speaker 3: pick any side, even if you're in the military.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 3: So I managed the budget for many years for the
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  Speaker 3: When you when you learn how to do math, uh
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  Speaker 3: real well, you know, especially in.
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  Speaker 2: A career field like the Air Force.
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  Speaker 3: Military police, which is the lowest score you know, as
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  Speaker 3: Bab scored the aptitude test to get into the Air
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  Speaker 3: Force to the minimum qualification job you land in is
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  Speaker 3: the is military police. And I I aced the test,
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  Speaker 3: and I remember my recruiter telling me like, you're I
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  Speaker 3: have a real hard time in that career field as
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  Speaker 3: a cop. And I'm like, well, that's what I want
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  Speaker 3: to do, buddy. He was trying to talk me out
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  Speaker 3: of being an MP, and I, uh, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: and choose something else because I you know, I qualified
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  Speaker 3: for every job. But the it's not a you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's not a humble brag hour. I was just explained that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you're dealing with some you know, do math
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  Speaker 3: in that environment. You know, you you quickly make you
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  Speaker 3: quickly move up in that environment when you know do math.
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  Speaker 2: So I found myself managing the.
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  Speaker 3: Budget headquarters, like I said, by you know, like ten
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  Speaker 3: years into my career. So you know, we're managing money
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  Speaker 3: in DC you got lobbyists, you got to deal with
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  Speaker 3: the you know, part of the military budget.
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  Speaker 2: You got congressional offices that.
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  Speaker 3: Are you know, knocking on your door for you know,
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  Speaker 3: put putting earmarks and stuff, you know, getting your buy
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  Speaker 3: off on and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's real ridiculous, real fast.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying the political aspect of it is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I uh, you know, pretty pretty ridiculous. I I took
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  Speaker 3: for a long story short I am. I volunteered to
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  Speaker 3: go back over to Iraq just to get out.
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  Speaker 2: Of that environment.
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  Speaker 3: Just to put that into context, I found Bagdad to
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  Speaker 3: be a more favorable work environment than Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's saying a lot right there. What was Baghdad like?
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  Speaker 1: Because really the only thing that we have is like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't think that the United States gets
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  Speaker 1: enough information about like other countries and what other countries
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  Speaker 1: are doing. And I've been saying that for a really
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  Speaker 1: long time. We only know about what other countries are
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  Speaker 1: like when there's something bad going on. Sure there's something
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  Speaker 1: really rough, and they plaster it all over the news,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't really know unless you're specifically looking up
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  Speaker 1: certain countries, doing study on them, going to the well,
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  Speaker 1: people don't use libraries anymore. But unless you're really interested
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  Speaker 1: in a certain country, you don't really know exactly how
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  Speaker 1: it operates, Like you don't know what the government production
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  Speaker 1: is like, you don't know what the politics is like there.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know really what the living conditions are at all.
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  Speaker 4: So what was bagged?
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  Speaker 3: I'd like, No, you make some good points, and I mean,
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  Speaker 3: and most of the folks I served with would would
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  Speaker 3: fall into that environment. They had no clue what what
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  Speaker 3: what the you know, the situation you know, politically, religiously,
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  Speaker 3: socioeconomically speaking, and these you know, these various deployments I
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  Speaker 3: went on over my career. But Bagdad, Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 3: an interesting place. So I actually got to see bag
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  Speaker 3: Dad from well. I mean, there's a good reason why
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  Speaker 3: folks don't know. I mean, most folks in America are
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  Speaker 3: pretty tarted, you know. You folks don't even know their
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  Speaker 3: own state capitals these days and stuff like that, or
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  Speaker 3: can't identify things on a map. Like it's gotten pretty bad.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the Department of Education did it starty work
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  Speaker 3: since seventy eight, and I think they've dumbed down America
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  Speaker 3: pretty well. But the U, the bag Dad. So I
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  Speaker 3: actually got the student honor, if you want to call
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  Speaker 3: it that, to see Bagdad from start to finish as
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  Speaker 3: far as air Force operations went, so I was delivering
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  Speaker 3: goods and and folks there at the early onset of
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  Speaker 3: the Iraq invasion the Bagdad International Airport, setting up the
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  Speaker 3: air Force camp there at the airport terminal. So the
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  Speaker 3: air Force came to their services as the airport terminal there.
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  Speaker 2: At the backside of it did at the backside.
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  Speaker 3: Of the bagged At International Airport, which was not a
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  Speaker 3: hole in the wall. I mean a lot of folks
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  Speaker 3: think this is like some back world country. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Saddam spent a lot of money on, you know, on
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  Speaker 3: a lot of things there, you know, and again most
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  Speaker 3: of the things that he was not spending money on
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  Speaker 3: in war against it was all religious war. And it's
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  Speaker 3: a religious war that's been going on there for many,
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  Speaker 3: many years. And the US is problem with with with
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  Speaker 3: Saddam was the problem they had with most leaders they instill, right,
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  Speaker 3: was that they put this guy in power to be
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  Speaker 3: a puppet and he's like, I'm going to do my
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  Speaker 3: own thing. You know, it's what good to OFFI did,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's time and time again. That's that's what
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  Speaker 3: the circumstances are. But you know, it wasn't It wasn't
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  Speaker 3: a third world country by he means, and certainly not
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  Speaker 3: the airport and the surrounding area there, which is most
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  Speaker 3: of the experience that I had there. But so I
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  Speaker 3: was there in to November of two thousand and three
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  Speaker 3: and then as a young staff sergeant and then you know,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, delivering goods and stuff in the build up,
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  Speaker 3: So I got to kind of see what looked like then,
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  Speaker 3: and then I got to see what looked like in
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  Speaker 3: twenty eleven. I spent nine months over there, and I
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  Speaker 3: shut the place down. I that was when I left DC.
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  Speaker 3: That was kind of one of the things I was,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the negotiations in which I achieved to get
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  Speaker 3: out of my hole in DC was I had some
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  Speaker 3: additional responsibilities doing sure that place got closed down properly
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  Speaker 3: and signed over to the Department of State. The Air
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  Speaker 3: Force camp there at the airport, So you know, I
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  Speaker 3: was there for the whole drawl down. So as you know,
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  Speaker 3: we drew down troops in twenty eleven there like due
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  Speaker 3: January through September, I guess, and the you know, then
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  Speaker 3: we had a smaller footprint. We just kept reducing the
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  Speaker 3: size of our base, but ultimately got turned over to
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  Speaker 3: the Department of State and they set up shop there.
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  Speaker 3: But it was a night and day difference. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it was so much worse when we left than when
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  Speaker 3: we got there, I can tell you that much.
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  Speaker 1: So we didn't really help.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't seem that way, right Here's here's a good
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  Speaker 3: story and a good story, but a good example. So
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  Speaker 3: in that transition, we were trying to train the air force,
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  Speaker 3: the Iraqi Air Force. So I was my one of
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  Speaker 3: my jobs there for the Military and Police Union on
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  Speaker 3: on the base was I was the superintendent of.
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  Speaker 2: Logistics and resources.
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  Speaker 3: We had you know, a big, you know, thousand man unit,
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  Speaker 3: and you know you have to have a division of
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  Speaker 3: that unit that that does all the you know, the guns,
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  Speaker 3: the AMMO, all the support and logistics aspects like that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, alarms all, you know, all sorts of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But so I was in charge of that that unit
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  Speaker 3: of the of our squadron, and uh, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's you know, it's the I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: is this the whole I guess what I'm getting is
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  Speaker 3: the whole experience, yet none of it was good. So
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  Speaker 3: when we were training, part of our duties was I
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  Speaker 3: just you know, I'm I'm replaying some of these activities
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  Speaker 3: in my brain hold right now as I'm getting as
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  Speaker 3: I'm describing this story.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, the uh, that's one I haven't thought of
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  Speaker 2: in a while. Rider.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, the one of our duties there, my section
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  Speaker 3: was training the Iraqi MPs. Right, So we had our
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  Speaker 3: training section there that was in charge of as well
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  Speaker 3: in that section. So one of our duties there was
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  Speaker 3: in this transition was training these guys that they were
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  Speaker 3: getting part of the base that we were comprising, right.
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  Speaker 2: They were getting part of that airfield.
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  Speaker 3: We were training their Iraqi Air Force MP's on you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, basic elements of security and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, after after like a six week or
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  Speaker 3: eight week training course we did with these guys, they're
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  Speaker 3: general through like you know, a big dinner for my guys,
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  Speaker 3: my team and whatnot. And we, uh, we had a
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  Speaker 3: dinner with these guys. The general leaves that dinner, drives
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  Speaker 3: home gets marked on the way home and a stoplight
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  Speaker 3: two dudes and on motorcycles come up and merk dude
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: with some guns on both sides of his car. So
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: there was a real rocky environment outside of whatever the
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: US was doing there, right, there was some internal you know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: internal uh you know situations going on there amongst the Iraqis.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't the whole thing to invade to find
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: the weapons of mass destruction and turns off the mass destructure,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: and then it turned into we need to liberate these people,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: and then it turns out that we didn't do either
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: one of those things.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, that's correct.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I don't even think we got the oil deals that
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: went to mainly VP and Shell, I think.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: But we were there guarding the poppy fields though you
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: need to guard that.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: That was Afghanistan, Yester. That's a whole that's a whole
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: different nightmare all together, quite honestly.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Chad Warren wants to know if you've ever worked in
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: any underground bases in the Air Force. Does the Air
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Force have ground bases that you're aware of.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they do. I mean, if you look at
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Chian Mountain, they suppose that's an underground base. That's an
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Air Force station out there in Colorado with the no
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: red stuff. But no, I've never been assigned to any
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: underground basis, Chad. Now, to answer your question, Rowastation, right,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Patterson Air Force Base for three years as a patrolman
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: early in my career as a young young staff sergeant.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I was a patrolman there for three years, and you know,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of spooky tales around that establishment. I
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: saw a work night shift, and I saw a lot
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: of strange things, but never any And they do have
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: underground stuff there, you know, a lot of underground tunnels
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: and whatnot.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: So, you know, because.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: It was one of the biggest bases they started building
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: after World War Two. So the Cold War environment, all
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: these bases that were built up during the Cold War environment,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: they all have underground stuff, right, because that was the
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: nature of the Cold War was We're going to start
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: doing all of our operations underground and build underground bunkers
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: and stuff. So there's a lot of bases of underground.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's a trope across conspiracy culture
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: that it's kind of you know, it's kind of bastardized,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I guess, but you know, there are certainly underground bases,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: there's no question about it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: What did you hear about, right, Potterson Air Force Base
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: while you were there, because that's.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: The whole thing about Roswell.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: The alien UFO crash, the bodies and they're in the
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: right Powerson Air Force Base. Some of it was taken
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: to Area fifty one and now support everyone is all
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: of a sudden in agreement that big a low aerospace
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: has the craft now and they reverse engineered it or whatever.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Were there rumors and what people were talking about while
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: you were stationed at Ry Potterson Air Force Base? Like
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: what did other people talk about while you were there?
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Were they like this is where the aliens are, this
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: is where the UFO.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's all those kind of stories for sure. You
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: get that kind when you first get there. So, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: mean there is a place there on on the you know,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I think it's I think folklore calls it, uh hangar eighteen,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I believe, right, But the actual hangers it's not eighteen.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: It's got it's got a different significance, different designator.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: It is a hanger forward.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: But whether or not that is the site of alien stuff,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you it is. I can tell it's
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: pretty locked up and uh, we were never allowed in
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: there when they had an alarm. We would just have
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: to wait for like an alarm. Uh you knows the
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: MPs and patrol and security of the installation. You know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: there's a building alarm. You gotta Sometimes you go in.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't want to, you know it's an alarm,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: there's no door open. Then then you don't go in.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: You're not one of those top secret facilities like that.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: You wait for the top secret building security manager to
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: show up in the middle of night, get woken up
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: out of bed, and eventually make their happy ass out
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: there in the middle of night. But the one time
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: hanger for his door was opened, and I can tell
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: you that there, well, all I saw in there was
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: a one of these incidents, someone to slewt the door
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: wide open. But it's just a big empty hangar in
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: with an elevator in the middle. So whatever is going
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: on there that's you know, seem to be subterranean, you
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: An elevator shaft in the middle of the hangar.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just one floor hangar and then in the
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: middle of just big empty empty hangar and then in
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: the middle of it just an elevator shaft, right, you know,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I mean just an elevator that you know went down,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: and you know, I would later talk to the electrician
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: that you know, they would run around to these buildings
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: at night. Ever, after a couple of years getting to
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: know this guy, he'd be the guy. You know, he's
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: got badges and clearances anytime he has to go to
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: these facilities and mess with you, you know, the wiring
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: electrics or fix something.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I asked to do what was going on that when
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: he told me it went down eight floors? So don't
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. I've never seen it, wouldn't know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: but that was what the electrician told me. I can't
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: tell you this. I can't tell you this. I have
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: been in tunnels in what D. Patterson Air Force Base
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: because we at on slow nights, boring nights. We used
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: to convene at the Presidential Aircraft Museum Hangar and access
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: it through the tunnel system and have wheelchair races next
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: to the plane. The jfk uh you know, was transported
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: on back from Dallas.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: They have that in a hair there.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in the Presidential Aircraft Museum Hangar in area
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: B of right Patterson.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Wow. And it's just like on on display like anyone can.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Go yeah, yeah, you can go there. It's uh, it's
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: the Air Force Museum is open. It's different, it's a
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: different building, but that's an annex of that main museum building.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: They have every aircraft there, so it's quite a museum
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: to go. Say, supposely's haunted. We st have a lot
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: of alarms there too, But you know, I never seen
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: any ghosts. I can just say there was the building
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: manager that would respond to that building would always describe
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: how you know, they were always frightened to go in
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: there at night.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: So does the tunnels lead to different parts of the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: base and our only personnel and military personnel a ware
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of the tunnels? Or can one guessing that only military
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: personnel is really allowed on the base is not really
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: going to be a civilian. Civilians can just walk onto
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: a military base and start looking around. But do different
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: tunnels lead to different sections of the base.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Oh for sure they have. Actually they have three different
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: areas of the base, and each area allegedly connects their tunnels.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: And they have a main headquarters building which you know
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: the sub floors of that, you know, I find you
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: know again, I you know, I'm just it was just
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: MP and security dude who would get board some nights
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: and just start winding around buildings when I probably shouldn't
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: have been winding around buildings type of deal, you know
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: what I mean. But I had access to do so
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: so and a headquarters building. It's the headquarters at Air
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Force Material Command, their right pat So these are the
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: folks that do all the testing for everything. And this
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: is what we mentioned, that Roswell stuff. This is the
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: why they were involved because they were allegedly testing these
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: materials from Roswell and reverse engineering stuff there through the
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: through the Air Force Research Laboratories AFRL and Air Force Yeah,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: air Force Research Laboratories and Air Force AFFET, Air Force Intelligence.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know a fit AFRL or these are the
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: two subordinate organizations. They're on base within the Air Force
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Material Command that they're responsible for the Project blue Book
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: right that was run out of those offices. They're responsible
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: for the that's the investigation and all the stuff. So
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I just went to Roswell. Now, my issues with Roswell
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: is that it kind of for me to buy into
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: any of these alien stuff. Well, first of all, you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I hung up my magical Mormon magical alien underwhear, you know,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: twenty almost twenty three years ago. But the you know,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: the the idea for me to trust, to trust any
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: of these ideas of alien stuff even within this you know,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: this sphere of Roswell and and Project blue Book and
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: stuff is that you know, it violates from my fundamental
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: rules in life, and that is never trust the Nazi
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: because it's Nazis that have perpetrated all these things. So
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: the Nazis were stationed there at Roswell, that was the
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: epicenter of their activity. There was already a team movement,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: right pat they linked up after the the Roswell incident, right.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: It seems like that the Roswell incident was a touched
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: flight from man made technology that crashed and nobody knew
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: about it because it was a top secret classified aircraft
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: technology and whenever it crashed, the generals and everybody had
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: no idea what it was because they didn't have the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: need to know.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: What it was.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Then there could have been, you know, those.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Rumors of one rider for sure, they need to know, right,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: it's all compartmentalized.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: And if he and it's also a rumored that maybe
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: though there was like chimpanzees on it as well, because
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: they wanted to test the altitude of how what it
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: would do on like a something that resembled a human
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: being at a certain altitude as well. So that could
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: have been mistaken or aliens too, But I am, I mean,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: that's a test site. That whole thing is that test
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: site there. Roswell is one of the well at that
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: time was one of the largest running flight test strips
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: of anywhere in the United States still is.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: You know that the White Saints Missile Range.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: It connects from Fort Biggs or BIG's Army Airfield down
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: at Fort Bliss all the way up to the Roswell.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Air Force Base.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: And uh, where's the one where Paul where Paul Benowitz
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: and uh Dodie were out of that was Kirkland, right, Yeah.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: There's kirk Kirkland Air Force Base.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: So I think a lot of these things shifted over
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: once Roswell went out of commission as an air Force base.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: They shifted over to Kirtland down the road, which again
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: is at the north end of this White Sands Missile complex.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: This enormous bombing and you know missile complex. It's used
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: for a lot of other training I've trained on in
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: that missile complex for small arms training and close quarters
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: coln by that kind of thing. You know, there's some
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: very shoot houses through out there for that kind of
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: thing as well. So it's a huge complex, but it
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: does stretch all the way down to the border.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: So these Nazis project paper clips style Nazis with these
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: rockets and whatnot and these alien stuff. They came in
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: through the border there in El Paso from the Vatican.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: They got fake credentials from the Vatican Embassy in Tijuana.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: I know this because I, you know, tracked some of
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: these actual things down. At least this is the the
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: facts for at least a number of them, right, they
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: got fake credentials, came in through their setup shopping now
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: pass out at Bigg's Army Airfield, which is the still
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: active today. It's actually I built the largest training center
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: for the Air Force Military Police at Biggs Army Airfield
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: back in twenty Serraca twenty thirteen. So it's a huge
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: training center today for the Air Force Military Police. They're
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: at that location still today. But the back then it
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: was just all Nazi stuff with these rocket engineers right
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: there was this was the early onset of the Air
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Force creation right in forty seven. So when all this
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: stuff was popping off, right right, we get Roswell, get
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: the we get multiple alien sidings up there, Pacific Northwest
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: survived surrounding these very spooky elements, and we get you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the onset of the CIA, NASA and the Air Force
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: and the National security active nineteen forty seven, which causes
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: everyone without a need to know to never know because
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: of these compartmentalized you know, top secret stamped national security
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And uh, Suddenly, if you
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: don't have a need to know, you don't have you'll
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: never know.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Yep. Kennethurnald Dann Roswell, Kennetharnal seeing the things up in
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Washington that he never said was in the shape of
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: a sorcer. He said that they flew like saucerers. You
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: didn't say that the craft in the shape of a saucer.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Roswell also happened in that same year. Then when you
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: get into the Paul Bennowitz stuff, like pretty much he
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: was just misidentifying a bunch of test flights of military
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: military craft that he could see from his back porch
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: at his house right outside of you know, Kirkland Air
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Force Base, and.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: For sure, and that's that's if I made writer, that's
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: part of that same commander at right Patterson. Right, So
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. They may have just shifted a
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: lot of these things over when the operations in the
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: same geographical area right from Roswell to to you know,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: to Carlind But yeah, it's goes right back to right Pat.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if anything is happening near an air Force base,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: it's pretty safe. Let's say that is the military, Okay,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: it's military technology.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: No, I totally agree. I used to sot, right Pat.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I used to see a lot of strange things in
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: the guys, you know what I mean, But I would
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: never describe them as anything other than man made.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Did you ever file a report on anything that you've seen,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: or did multiple people see it? Or did you ever
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: comment or tell anybody that you've seen something strange?
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Oh? For sure.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: So you know, again, slow nights, you know what I mean,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: working night shift from numerous heears there we had you know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: we had a lot of we had a lot of
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: bus these nights because right Patterson Air Force Base it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: on the east side of Dayton and uh free freeway.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Rick Ross and the.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: CIA use that as a Dayton, Ohio as the the
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: distribution point for the Midwest for their crack crack cocaine networking.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: So crack hit Dton real bad and on the east
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: side specifically, so and we have a housing complex right
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: there that butted up against USA, So we used to
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: I used to have to bust the skulls a lot
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: of crackheads.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: At one point in time.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: But we had some slow nights and uh, the you know,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: the folks be coming on base housing and stuff like
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: that doing you know, doing hood red shit.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: So we had some slow nights.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: And we had a hot pad, which is like if
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: you had on the air on the the airfield the
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: right pat So if you had like an Ammo or
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: something that you had an aircraft that had AMMO or
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: cargo that was considered you know, explosives or whatever, you
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: couldn't park it near the main aircraft or terminal. You
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: had to go down to the hot pad at the
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: end of the air kind of way off in the corner, right,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: but it's behind the fence and restricted everything. So now
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: we can get in there really, you know, and you
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: can see had lights coming down there if someone's coming.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: So that was my nap time spot, so around you know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: two thirty three in the morning, I'd go down there
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: and take it. You know, that's my you know zone
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: out for a bit right on the slow night specifically
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: because I wouldn't get off shift till seven, so you know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: that's the last kind of you know bit of the
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: shift and like you know, when to squeeze in a
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: nap or two before rush hour comes in in the morning.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: So I go down there, and then after a couple
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: of nights, you know, i'd so seeing all these aircraft
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: come over across the airfield on the backside where that
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Area B is.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: So this is area this is the Area A. So
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Area B is just down the road a little bit.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: But where the you know, where all the hangar fore is,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: where all the you know, the top secret labs are
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: and all that stuff is, where the you know, the
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: the Air Force Museum, all that stuff's Area B. Area
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: as where the Wright brothers tested their aircraft. Right, that's
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: where they did all their flight testing on some mounds.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: There an Area A right, but it's just right down
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: the road, so you can see it kind of coming
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: over the forest right, there's mainly just trees in between
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: and whatnot. You see these lights coming up up over
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: the forest, but they're clearly coming from the area B
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: region and they're doing, you know, maneuvers that you would
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: not normally see from any sort of winged or jet
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: aircraft or even a propellered aircraft. And there are some
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: unique maneuvers, right, And they would fly in formations of
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: like four to six, right, And this would happen almost
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: every night on que from between two thirty and three
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: in the morning. So after a while I started calling
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: some of my troops down there to you know, to
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: come check it out. So, yeah, there was other witnesses
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: for sure, but now I wouldn't reporting that to anybody
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: else my now spot. I wasn't trying to get too
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: many people involved in that situation. But yeah, we'd have
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: we'd have a few patrols down there, you know, watching
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: watching the show.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: But that is really interesting, And I just asked because
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I've talked to a few people that have been in
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the military and have reported something seeing something really strange
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: in the sky or something anomalous, and then a few
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: other people back it up, and then they're they essentially
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: just brush it under the rug and tell them never
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: to speak about it again. They file a report and
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: then they just put the report away somewhere and no
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: one ever sees the report again.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: They filed in the the circular filing cabinet knows the
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: trash game.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, so.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Not the real If I, if I may, if I
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: may ride, Are you familiar with the infamous Mounts from
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Air Force Base UFO incident?
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: If I am, you'd have to jog my memory tell
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: me about it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I think it was SIRC In nineteen sixty seven or
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: sixty eight, some aircraft, unidentified aircraft, flew at a very
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: high rate of speed over the miss the intercontinental ballistic missiles.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: So those Nazi rockets we were talking about before with
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Jack Jack Parsons magical solid state rocket fuel, those were
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: fueling these intercontinental ballistic missiles known as nuclear weapons, right,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: and these are buried in these nuclear silos across the
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: you know states of Lake North, Dakota and Wyoming and Montana.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: So I was stationed in Montana for three years at
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: that at that base. But they had an infamous incident
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: back in the late sixties where this high speed aircraft,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: unidentified aircraft that you know, blew up all their radars
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: and you know, it was acting funky in the radars
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: everything right, and it it disconnected all of the nuclear
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: weapons for like a couple of minutes after it flew over.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: So something that something with that aircraft jammed all the
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: communication systems with the nuclear weapons. Now I don't know
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: what those communication systems were at the time. I do
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: know they were antiquated. Come twenty fifteen. They were still
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: operating on five inch floppy discs in twenty fifteen for
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: targeting systems. So that was in the report that's public.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: So you know what, there's a lot of drugs, rock
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: and roll going on these drug you know, in twenty fifteen,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: so twenty fourteen, So in that report they found out,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: you know, well we should probably upgrade these things. We're
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: still targeting our nuclear missiles with five inch floppy discs
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: from nineteen seventy eight. So I got a lot of
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: views on nuclear weapons. But nonetheless, these these giant Nazi
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: rocket jack Parsons, magic field things sitting these big silos
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: you know, across across Montana, and and somehow they got disconnected.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: You know, these community their ability, they had no ability
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: to launch if they wanted to launch for a number
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: of minutes back during this incident. So that was very
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: popular when I first got station there, you heard about
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: all about it. There's it's been in numerous I don't
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: don't ask to which documentaries. I just know folks have
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: covered it. Right, there's you know folks quote unquote ie
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: witnesses that were stationed there that you know during that time.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: It happened again when I was there, So this one
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: isn't reported that much that I'm remember there or any documentaries.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: But they lost contact in a similar fashion with a
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: similar aircraft in July of two thousand and one. We'll
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: call it right after Syrica July eighth, because it was
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: between Independence Day and my birthday, so about halfway in between.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: So I was on the response team there, and you know,
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: the tactical response force like the SWAT team, and I
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: was their convoy security team leader, one of the convoy
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: security team leaders there on base. We would you know,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: transport the nuclear missiles to and from base from these sites.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Twenty three thousand square miles of Montana were covered by
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: these missile sites. It was not a small, you know,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: missile complex, but that was my job at the time,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: so whenever there was an incident, you know, I was
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: on call, you know. So it was early, it was
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: like six in the morning. But yeah, something disconnected the
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: stuff that day, and the story we got was another
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: incident like the one in the sixties. So I never
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: on any paperwork or anything else like that. I just
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: responded and armed up, and we're getting ready to deploy somewhere,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: you to do something. I didn't know what was going on.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: You know, it's the military. It's a lot of hurry
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: up and wait. They don't tell you a lot of things,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like report here, get your guns,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: sit in this room for a while, you know what
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, that kind of thing. But yeah, supposedly some
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: sort of unidentified aircraft shut down their nuclear missiles in
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: the sixties, you know, I think it was late sixties.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: And then again Serika July two thousand and one.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Wow, we haven't never I've never heard of that one.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: I've heard of the one in.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: The sixties, but never heard of the one in two
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: thousand and one.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: But you were there.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I was there.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: I go, I got armed up, you know what I mean.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: We were with a response to something you know what
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Dude, anyone report seeing like a like a craft because
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I think that the one in the sixties someone reported
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: seeing like an actual craft that was hovering over the base.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: And this this incident, I don't remember which area of
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: the complex it was in. Like I said, the missile
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: complex covered twenty three thousand square miles. So some days
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: we would depart base and we wouldn't get to a
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: site for four hours, you know, driving up armored home
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: bees and stuff like that, some machine guns on top.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: We got some deputy marshals with us, you know, you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: we were making a scene when you got forty millimeters
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: grenade launchers and you know, fifty cal you know, machine guns.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: You got a helicopter you know above and stuff like
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: that with machine guns loaded out whatever. You know, it's
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: quite a spectacle. But in that spectacle you don't really
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: run into a lot of folks out there. So the
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: eyewitness accounts of out in the middle of nowhere, Montana
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: would be few and far between.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Unless we can get the cattle to start talking.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Any we might be able to with technology. Elon must
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: just needs to put a freaking neuralink implant chip into
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: all these connels of brains so they can talk psychically
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: with us. You might be able to tell us.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Right, they would have sties. There's Montana cattle, that's for sure.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Before I forget though, I meant to bring this up
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: earlier when we're we're talking about Saddam Hussein. So blink
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: one eight two is Mark Hoppus actually might have helped
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: the military capture Saddam Hussein. Loudwire article and Mark Hoppus's
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: brand new book Fahrenheit one e two, a Memoirir the Rockers,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: shared a story about how he may have actually assisted
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: in the capture of Saddam Hussein back in two thousand
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: and three. Hoppus has touched on this situation on social
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: media before, but in the book, he went into a
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: detailed about the plan he came up with to capture
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: one of the most wanted individuals in recent American history. Sir,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: this is Mark Oppas talking. Sir, I have a plan
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: on how to catch Saddam Hussein, the musician recalled telling
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: nybe Admiral on board an aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: According to Hoppus, Husain had been sending video messages to
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: his followers from an unknown location. At the time, the
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: musician felt that the military could use drones to their
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: advantage and uncover his location by pulling data from the
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: video messages. What do you think about that? You think
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: that Mark Hoppis helped military catch Saddam Hussein.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: It's certainly interesting, right, It's kind of wild, and now
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking Mark Coppis might be an agent of the
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Canadian intelligence agencies or something.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, what's interesting this is that as a high
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: ranking military officer, that's how you even knew about this.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: So essentially what he was telling this, uh, this Navy admiral,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: was that if you put drones everywhere in the sky
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: or surrounding where Saddam Hussein is whenever he takes a video,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: we can pinpoint his location based off if you hear
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: the background noises of the drones in the video through
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the micro data of the video, which is pretty seems a.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Big convoluted, a lot a lot of work though, right,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of drones that you would
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: need for that, right.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: You would need a lot of drones, You would need
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of d yes. But I thought that was
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: interesting and how Mark Hoppas's dad is a high ranking
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: military officer. Seems like all of these big time musicians
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and people are all have family that are high ranking
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: military officers. Which that's just a coincidence, JJ Brants, not
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the president.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Right, So it was he is he a Canadian officer?
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Is the American?
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Because I thought I was thinking Hoppas was a Canuck.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Didn't know that about his father. But I mean it
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: makes it's it's the same pattern over and over again, right.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: So let's do the Wikipedia article.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: And yeah, while you're looking that up, I was in
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I was in Qatar when they brought some diamond from Iraq,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: right when they dug him out of his hole, allegedly, right,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: they brought him down to Quitar, to the army camp there,
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: but they came through the Air Force base obviously when
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: they landed. So I don't know who the individual was
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: that they had, but I mean they bagged and tag somebody, right.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, So this says that he's an American, So I
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: don't think the is from Canada born. No, he was
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: born in California.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Interesting, okay, rage to produce a lot of Canadian music,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess that's what he was Canadian.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of musicians from Canada, but yeah, Mark
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: hoppis here American musician and record producers called the vocalist,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: co founder and basis for the rock band Blink twenty
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: eighty two. He was born March fifteenth, nineteen seventy two
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: in Ridge Crest, California, US.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, looking back, there's a lot of alien stuff
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: in their music, right, you know there there was their
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: second album, uh, Anima of the State, I think, or
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: maybe their second you know, their second hit album, their
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: big hit album, right, you know they're Anima of the State.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: They they have a song Aliens Do Exist. Right.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Well, then you got Tom DeLong. He he's pretty much
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: the lead front on UFO Disclosure. He's the lead vocalist
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: from Blane twenty two. So you got Mark Compass being
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: his dad being a higher ranky military officer. You got
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Tom DeLong, which is the lead vocalist for Blank twenty
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: eighty two, essentially quitting the band to pursue UFOs. I'll
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: put off and like all the to the Stars Academy,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: getting all these intelligence people all together to do UFO Disclosure.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Then he rejoins the band a couple of years ago
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: they make a new album. Yeah, it's just a coincidence,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: that's all it is.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: It's a very it's a very odd epicenter of events there.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: So you know, I'd like to get your thoughts on
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: his relationship with John Podesta, because that's really what boils
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: down to him, him, Peter Leavinda and John Podesta, that is,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: but DeLong openly puts I think he's openly a freemason.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: He puts the logo on his guitar, right.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I think so too. I think the Yeah, I believe
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: that he is. It could be wrong.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: So that that that relationship he has with with uh
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Peter Lavenda, who seems to be of a typhony in
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: flavor of this oto branch off of this Golden don
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: hermetic society of rosecrutionisms, because it's all one after when
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: you look at all these things, I think from my perspective,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: it's all they all. It's always repackaging the older ideas
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: with a new flavor, right, And sometimes in the repackaging
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: of older ideas, you're packaging ideas and mashing them together
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: various capacities, And that's what seemingly goes on over and
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: over again, from the you know, Bolvaski and theosophy to
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: the Hermetic Order of the Golden down to the you
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: know repackaging those ideas with Crowley, you know, into his
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: OTO and so on and so forth, right that you know,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: we see that going on.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Today with folks like Podesta.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: And Lavenda, who seemed to be of this typhoony and
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: flavored offshoot of the ot O, not an official offshoot,
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: but a branch off, right, You're familiar with some of
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: those activities.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, I am. I'm just trying to find this, uh,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: this guitar with the what you're talking about with the
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: free Mason symbol on it. Oh yeah, right here it is. Here.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Here's to Long's guitar that has the uh free Mason sticker.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: On the bottom here.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Right Joall, Yeah, there you go. I mean there's a
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: lot to do with uh, you know, Freemasonry and how
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: it's all mixed in the pretty much every cult is
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: has a touch of Freemasonry in it at some point,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: whether it's like the ritualistic aspects that they do, the
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: the way that they dress, the their day to day
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: life activities, and then when you get into the Order
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: of the Hermetic Don, which many people claim is the
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: original like occult teachings and the Order of the Harmeitic
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Don is still a thing to this very day. It's
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: still in order, still active.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Right, and even it's had its numerous offshoots and flavors
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: branching off, right.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, many of them. I mean, you can you know,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: track this back like you just mentioned with Elena Bravlovsky,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: you can get it to like yeah, you know Edgar Casey,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: even you can get back into Rudolph Steiner as well,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: like being some of these originators of like this type
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: of theosophy, and you know, them all sort of like
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: bar borrowing from each other. Like that seems to be
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: the thing is like cults just rip off like other cults, right,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: they'll just take the views and ideas from other people
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: that I mean, I've spoken about the Heaven's Gate cult
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: several times and how they just went around the United States,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: went to all these different New Age centers, talked to
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: yogi's and people, and then they just developed the ideas
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: and the thoughts for their cult. I mean, even the
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: cult of I Am in the early thirties did that
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: exact same thing, and they were actually sued by a guy,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the Dweller of Two Planets. I forget what his name is,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: but he wrote a book that was essentially all about
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Mount Shasta. Now, Mount Shasta is is kind of regarded
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: as the where the I Am cult like originated from,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: because Dave Dollard went to Mount Shasta and supposedly encountered
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Saint Jermaine in Mount Shasta. Then the entire belief structure
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: of the I Am cult basically came out of I mean,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: if you go to Mount Shasta right now, that you're
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: going to run into I AM people.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, oh, I've been I've been there. Yeah, for sure,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: it's a mystical New Age nightmare if you ask me.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: But yet it's a lovely place mountain wise and lakewise
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: up there. But yeah, some weird you get a weird
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: environment otherwise with a lot of this New Age mystical
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: QAnon mixed in there now too, nowadays, right with these
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: IM folks, right.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of spread out like everywhere. It's become
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: this uh, you know, everyone says I am that I am,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: which then you know comes actually out of the Bible
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: as well, and they said in that I AM power
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: like you are the God right like that you are
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: the center of the universe. You are God is essentially
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: what the IM means, and people use it as like
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: an affirmation, like I am that I am, and I
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: think that that comes from Moses in the Bible. If
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, there's a verse that Moses is talking
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: about the CM here has a question says, I need
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: a serious understanding of what you mean by actually Freemason.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Have you read the Freemasonic Bible? G. D. Vance and
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: not the.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: President JJ Vance? Yes, sir, I have. I've read. I've
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: read some worlds and dogma. I've read some mainly p
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Hall stuff.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: I've I found myself familiarizing myself with these topics and subjects,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: and as I discussed some of them and ask Freemasons,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: you know some friends I've had that are Freemasons that
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: I don't think are just bullshitting me like they have.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Modern day Freemasonry is disconnected from these ancient principles in
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: large part amongst their their membership right, their membership's in
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: there for the you know, the boys club, the camaraderie,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: and the networking economically in business speaking, but they do
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: not know their own theology and philosophies.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: It's been my experience.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of them that are involved in these
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: clubs that are spread out all through the United States,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: they have no idea what it's like that they're just
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: part of like a club, and they don't really know
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: anything about the symbolism or right probably never even read
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: the Free Masonic Bible, which the Free Masonic Bible is
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: actually way better understanding of what the Bible actually means.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, it gives you a summary within like the
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: first fifty pages of the Free Masonic Bible that is
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: essentially breaking down the stories of what the Freemasons believe
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: that the Bible actually is, and then it gives you
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: a breakdown of all of what their symbols mean as well.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Oh for sure. No, I mean it is the context.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: It's necessary. It's for that understanding I think is important.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was kind of shocked. I didn't get a
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: chance to read all of it, but I read the
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: initial like twenty thirty pages and I was like, wow,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: this is a very detailed explanation, because you know, people
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: have an idea of like what these symbols mean, and
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: they've you know, made it to be like, you know,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: the demonic and like all that, and then they're like,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: if there's this spree Masonic symbol, like they're doing a ritual.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: But if you, I mean, you can get a free
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Masonic Bible on Amazon. I'm pretty sure you used type
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: in free Masonic Bible and you can get one. I
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: don't think that you have to be a Preemason to
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: get a pre Masonic Bible, do you.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know how that works.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: So I had a friend of mine, his grandfather passed
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: a number of years ago, and this is probably around
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: the Sea twenty twelve or twenty thirteen, and he was
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: a time when I was reading all this, a lot
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: of Freemasonry stuff, not to join them. I just wanted
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: to understand them, just like any other group of religion.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: I've read the Koran and other things like that that
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: try to understand these things, right, Not because I wanted
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: to start going to pray to some cargo cult you know,
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: asteroid rock in Saudi Arabia, but just because I wanted
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: to go, you know, read about stuff, especially when I'm
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: going to these Muslim nations.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: That was important for me to understand what kind of envirral.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to go again, do any diplomatic missions.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: I was just trying to understand what I was getting into, right,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: But yeah, the uh well, you know all these ideas, right, So,
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: like even these ideas within all the Bible stuff, right,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: the the Freemasonic Bible, the you know, the whatever Bible
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: you the varying different Bibles there are, Right, the these
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: concepts get again, like much like these cults, they get repackaged,
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: so like within the Golden Down, these other everything else.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Subsequent to that, they're known as the the Hermetic orders. Right,
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: These these are all hermetic teachings, These are hermetic groups.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Well, that's just a repackaging of older concepts by combining
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: other characters.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: You have like they created Hermes trist Magistus fella by
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: mashing together like thought and Hermes. Right, so they're mashing
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: together these gods and everything else. Again, we see that
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: even within the offshoots of these cult religions, right be
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: it b it, you know, the Golden Dawn, the.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Oto, et cetera.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Right, So they're they're using a lot of actually terminology
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: even from borrowed from the Vatican and these older religions,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: by you know, even borrowing some their concepts and structures
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: as well, right, And that's even seen in the incorporation
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: documents of a you know, a further down the line
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: POLEEMC offshoot organization from the OTO to Scientology to the
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Processed Church, and they're incorporating documents they it's shockingly similar
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: to some of the hierarchy within the Catholic Church and
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: some of the terminology. So a lot of these ideas
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: get packaged together and matched together, for sure, and over
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: time they you know, I often wonder if they're not
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: at the top of these organizations, if they're not all
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: doing the same thing, because even the Vaticans, an ancient
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: alien cargo cult where there they've largely invented our ideas
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: of space, and they own the largest telescopes, et cetera,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: and have made these discoveries of space through the Vatican
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: hierarchy there with their various astral you know, astronomers and
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: whatnot from Galileo onward. And you know, I often wonder,
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: at the top of these organizations, are they just gonna
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: one day come together like Voltron all these ancient alien
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: cargo cults. They're all doing disparaiment elements, but they're doing
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: disparrement elements for shared mission at the top of all
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: these organizations, and suddenly they're going to be like, oh shit,
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: we're vulturo. They're all going to come together one day
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: and maybe maybe maybe in that in that case, they're
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: all going to blast off the planet and we we'll
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: never have to deal with these folks again. But I
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: think that's a little bit too optimistic.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: They just got to channel their God and then that
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: God will give them the technology, tell them how to
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: build their craft, and then they'll go to freaking Mars
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: and live forever.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: But here you can get this master meson edition of
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: the Holy Bible leather bound for forty three ninety nine
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: on Amazon.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Problem.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Someone just mentioned in the chat too that you can
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: get a digital version as well by by it digitally.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, D Like, I like your statement there. I
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: mean like again, that's uh.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: You know, these concepts you keep saying, is the whole
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: the focus of these ancient alien cargo cles with the
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: I Am God, right, the I Am God aspects and whatnot.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Like that is the common trend. That is what mormon
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Ism teaches as well. And another kind my trend amongst
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: these is the veneration of the start the serious right,
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: the serious worship right, from Freemasonry to Rosa, Crucianism and Mormonism,
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: et cetera. These are all in around serious worship right.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: But I got an interesting comment their Day writer on
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: in regards to Mount Shasta, and I want to ask
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: you if you'd heard about this, this this tale. I
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: haven't got a chance to running this information down yet,
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: but it was an interesting comment. I've received my YouTube
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: just just the other day claiming, uh, I was talking
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: about Mount.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Shast and stuff. I think maybe last Friday maybe or something.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: I'm on Operation GCD, but says Project Camelot wanted to
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: set up a food and souvenir truck at Mount Shasta.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: It didn't materialize, but Kevin Spacey was apparently involved.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: That's a weird. It's a weird comment, but I could
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: definitely see some of stuff being true.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: With Mount Shasta, Kevin Spacey and the uh you know
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: this s up of a food truck by that the
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Project Camelot folks.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Again, I haven't running this information down, but have you
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: heard anything in that regard?
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Before I can, Project came a lot with Kerry Cassidy. Yes, sir,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: what No, I did not hear about this?
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: No, well, I'll get back to vis any validity too.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: And we were talking about Mount Shasta. I was I
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: got a funny Mount shast to comment the today.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Wow, it's weird how everyone was so against Kevin Spacey
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: and like all the weird shit that he was doing,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: and supposedly I think that he Wasn't he just involved
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: with an underage boy or something like that. I don't know.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't look into it too much. But then now
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, he didn't do it, Like, what do
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: you mean, bro?
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Right, Well, here's an interesting story if you're not too
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: familiar with it. So a lot of the reason why
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: that's all gotten swept on the rug, in my opinion,
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: is because Kevin Spacey and Prince Andrew used to be boyfriends.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: So according to about about two Baker's dozen victims, ever
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Any a London, England playhouse where Kevin Spacey was the
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: play direct playhouse director for about seven years. He got
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: that job because Prince Andrew told the playhouse to hire him,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: and during their seven or approximate seven years, approximately a
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: couple of Baker's dozen young men and boys were allegedly
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: raped by both of these men. Lawsuits were settled out
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: to a lot, a lot of money in space.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: He was fired.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: So you know he has a lot of cleanup cleanup
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: crew behind him, right, Like there's a lot of these
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: tales get swept under the road.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Well that's kind of sort of coming out about Henry
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: cavill as well.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that. That's interesting.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: He's kind of their leading star of britain Land, right,
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: one of the leading actors over there for Hollywood, out
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: of the British British Land.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: A little bit now there obviously isn't any you know,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: truth to it like that. We don't have like document
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: dative evidence. But apparently he likes young girls, I don't know,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: like underage girls. Sure, And that's why he doesn't stay
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: with a project for very long, like if you notice,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: like it was like Superman for a couple of movies.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: He gets off of Superman, he goes to The Witcher.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: They were supposed to do five seasons of The Witcher.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: He backed out on season three. He was in a
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: contract for five seasons of The Witcher. Then he broke
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: the contract. And now he's because he was supposed to
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: go back as Superman, and then they got rid of
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: him as Superman, and then now he's on the other
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Amazon thing. I don't know.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was supposed to be bond at
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: one point to release was in the conversation.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Right, yep.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: Now that's just the rumor.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, nothing is verified. I'm just talking rumors right now,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: just rumors, all rumors. Nobody come at me, no one.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: No one trashed me in the comments for some something
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: that I said that is a rumor. Okay, it's rumor. Jesus,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: these people, these people do they will literally scold you
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: over anything.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's art and supporters of every everyone's got. You know,
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: they're Hollywood star they like to support, right, you know
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of folks do, at least, right. But if
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: I may offer some additional commentary on this, this memory
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: you speak of, So I have a you can call
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: it annoided theory if you want. But I have this
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: theory that all of the lead actors and all of
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: these Marvel and DC movies are all they're all felamites, right,
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: They're all part of the cult network, right, some offshoot
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: of Thelima of these this oto of flem Go offshoot
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: network that spawned from the Golden Dawn. And you know,
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: I can give you numerous examples of that. Let me
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: first explain that point. So it seems to me that
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Marvel and DC Comics comes from the same epicenter of
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: activity with these pulp fiction writers l Ron Hubbard and
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: the Agape Lodge of the Oto with Jack Parsons, and
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: then scientology. And this is confirmed through their the literary
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: agent of many of these writers, and the the editor
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: and manager of this sci fi writers club, this infamous
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: sci fi writers club.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Right, so basically every sci fi writer.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: You can think of for the last you know, one
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: hundred and whatever twenty twenty years or so, is part
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: of this club, including the folks that started Marvel and
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: DC Comics. And I would assert that Marvel Comics is
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: really named after Marvel Whiteside Parsons aka Jack Parsons, his
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: birth name being Marvel Parsons. And you will see the
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: same the limit kind of fan fiction and these storylines
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: with galactic overlords, ancient alien cargo cult space activities, right, people,
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: these things come from a long time ago in a
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: you know, a universe far far away or a galaxy
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: far far.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Away, right, be it Star Wars or these Marvel aliens.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Right, then you have Thanos and whatnot as you'r glact
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: to overlords kind of like Xenu. And then you have
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: superpowers kind of like Scientology's Superpower building they just built
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: down there a few years ago, to the tune of
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: tens of millions of dollars down in clear Water. So
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: when you look at somebody like Cavil right, who plays Superman,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of these guys who play these roles have
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: these weird proclivities for young women within these Marvel Star
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: and DC starring roles, right, and they have they seem
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: to have an innate, h you know, proclivity to start
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: their own cult. For example, Jared Leto, the Joker from
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: the Suicide Squad Jack Parsons team that invented the magical
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: solid state rocket fuel was known as the Suicide Squad.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: So you have Jared Leto from the Films to Side
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Squad playing Joker, and he he starts his own cult, right,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: He's got his little He dresses like Jesus why Jesus
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: Christ and runs around in a white robe and has
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: a lot of followers in white you know, it's kind
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: of creepy.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: You have the guy who played the Flash.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: That dude started a cult in Vermont and started pulling
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: guns on thirteen year olds and raping and you know,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: you know, aggressively assaulting sexually assaulting young young women.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: That guy was a mass bro. I don't know how
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: they cut him around for that other Flash, the disaster.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: And then you got Wesley Snipes. He's one of my
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: favorite ancient alien cargo cultists. Amongst this mix, he uses
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: the yes.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, please tell us about this. I didn't even know
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: about this. You told me about this on the show
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: with Headless Nice. Sure tell us about this.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: So I like the joke that if anyone saw any
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: folks in the interwebs, I mean, I get you know,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: myself included in this mix. Actually I'm guilty, but if
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: you paid for a movie ticket or rented the film
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Blade one, two, or three, you technically contributed to child
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: sex trafficking, funding child sex trafficking. But so Wesley Snipes
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: produced those films and starred in them. Right, the Blade films.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: It's a Marvel comics series, but he starred in those
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: and actually a lot of the New Marvel actors, including
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Ryan Reynolds and Gang. They all credit Wesley Snipes with
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: allowing them to He made he led the framework to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: make these Marvel big budget films right and in fact,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Ryan Reynolds was in one of the Blade films. He's
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: been in numerous DC and Marvel films besides Deadpool, like Green,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Lantern and Blade. But so Wesley Snipe produces these films
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: under his production company AM and Raw Productions ALM and
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: Raw Productions. And he's a member of this cult called
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: the New Wabbian Nation started by a guy by the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: name of Dwight York who really started this cult more
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: towards the late seventies, but it went through various iterations
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: from the late sixties through the early nineties. When when
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: it seems when Snipes got involved here in nineteen ninety one.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: But a lot of this guy Dwight York malachai Ze.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: He sits in the Federal Penitentiary Supermax prison informs Colorado
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: today for a couple hundred years for child sex trafficking.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: He was the cult leader. He's also the man who
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: invented hip hop and rap with folks like Africa Bombada,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: who's also got his own diddling situations these days in
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: cult situations, but Snipes funds, he joins this cult and
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: begins financing it. By the late nineties, he's using Amen
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: Raw Productions and his Blade series took to finance this cult.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Almon Raw Productions also owns the land of this colt
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: sets up on the adjacent property the training center for
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: the security force for this colt, which the security force
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: was owned and licensed by Wesley Snipes himself, including the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: firearms licenses. He had firearms licenses for this for a
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: security outfit there. It was all under his name, under
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: this Almon Raw Productions, the same film production studio he owned,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: so they ran they had a training compound in Georgia.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: With the security force, but they were the security force.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: For the compound across the street, which was the New
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Wabbien Nation, which was a giant ancient Egyptian pyramids and
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: sphinx built on some mounds in rural Georgia on a
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: four hundred acre lot in rural Georgia. So the pr
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: spokesman for this cult would later identify Snipes, amongst numerous
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: other folks as the quote unquote New Wabbian millionaires financing
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: this cult. And again there's a paper trail with Snipes
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: finances with this arm and raw productions. So around two
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: thousand and four Dwight York would get busted for the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: child sex trafficking and then around two thousand and six
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: they got Snipes with the al Capone prosecution, they prosecuted
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: him for tax evation.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: God him, couldn't get him on nothing else, so they
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: had him at the tax.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Evasion Yep, that's right, yes, sir. And if I can
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: bring up a picture of this compound, it's quite a structure.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: It's been torn down since.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, please bring it up.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: When I'm a ray was that what was that writer?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: When did they tear it down?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: I think it was completely raised by two thousand and six.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: Now, the UH locals, a lot of the cult members,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: they stayed in the area, right, So in twenty ten, Serraca,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: twenty ten, I think this is still an unsolved murder.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: I did a podcast on it. I did this show
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: on it maybe three months ago, four months ago on
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: Operation GCD. But some of those cult members, it appears,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: did a ritual human sacrifice and beheaded an elderly woman
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: on a mound there in the area, just outside of
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: the compound.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: He used to exist.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: The wealthy couple there in one of the lived on
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: one of the local lakes. But a picture here, So
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: there's still a cult. They actually have a facility in Brooklyn,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: New York. In fact, folks want to check that out.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: Nick on the Occult Rejects got some drone footage and
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: everything else like that, because he went and visited the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: site in Brooklyn, And I'm bring up a picture of
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: that right now while I'm looking for a good picture
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: of the compound from Georgia. So this colt still exists,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: you know. It's like I said, Dwight Yorck's in prison.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: Whether Wesley Snipes is still a member, I couldn't tell you.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Or whether or not the banned outcast is still a member,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you. But this is their This is
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: their Brooklyn center. It's an education center folks, open to
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: the public. I think on Sundays. They got a bookstore
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: next door. Of course they owned the whole block. The
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: New Abbion Nation does. And jay Z the first music
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: video he appears in is right here in this in
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: this building.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Five, Wild an Egyptian cult in Georgia.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Yep, these pictures don't do any justice either because they
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: built they built two pyramids, three pyramids, I think a sphinx,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: and they adopted this ancient alien cargo cult belief system
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: where Dwight York was half alien, half black Cherokee, and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: so he was a mound builder. He was half alien
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: and because you know, they built it on mounds down there, right,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: they were they were they were claiming independent sovereignty, right
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: so and then he you know, so it's a very
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: ancient Egyptian alien mound focused cult. But they had a
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: nightclub in one of these uh, one of these buildings,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: and it was a unlicensed uh you know, by the
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: State of Georgia to serve alcohol.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: So obviously the State of Georgia had a lot of
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: problems with it.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Ultimately they came in there rated it a couple of
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: times before the cult was taken down. But you know,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: there was a lot of stuff like that going around there.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: But when you say the freemasonry stuff though, writer the
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: they started their own branch of freemasonry. So there's an
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: official recognized Lodge of Prince Hall Freemasonry that is recognized
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: as the New Wabbia Nation Grand Lodge of Prince Hall freemasonry,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: and Dwight York, to my understanding, main in fact still
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: be the leader of that today while he SAIDs in prison.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: So was this building still standing or is it gone?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: The one in Brooklyn, this one that we're looking at
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: right now on the screen. Oh, this was one of
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: the pyramids.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Huh, that's one of that strengthen the pyramids.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one in Brooklyn still standing and folks can visit that,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: like I said, some I think it's Sundays.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: It's open to the public. This was built, I think so.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: Dwight York flees New York, I think Syra ninety two
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: when he meets Snipes around that same time him and
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Snipe start doing this compound up down in Georgia. He
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: flees New York under charges of, you know, sexual assaults
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: of children and things like that.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: How tall do you think that this, uh, this pyramid is?
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: I think it was more ornately looking than it was
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: a structure, right, But it was a they were large
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: right at least right. I don't know how I'm looking
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: for a hype for it, but.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a small It wasn't a small project.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: That all you can see that the other pyramididve we
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: were just looking at, and the sphinx is to the
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: right of it, and this is another pyramid. I believe
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: this is the one that housed the nightclub.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: It reminds me of like the World's Fares, right, how
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: they would go around and like rebuild like Rome, like
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: things that you would see in Rome, and then they
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: would do the World's Fares and then they would coming
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: through and just destroy all of it.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Seems like Wesley Snipes and his cult just kind of
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: rebuilt Egypt in Georgia.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is look at this is an
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: overhead shot of that compound, right, I mean it's a
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: substantial spot.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: These are all the houses that the people in the
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: cult would live in.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they had a few hundred to live down there.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: In a few thousands supposedly they would live in the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: area the region.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: But they have bookstores and locations across I think around
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: twenty cities across the US and Canada today the New
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: Wabbian Nation does They didn't really have like chapter houses
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: or churches, right, they have these bookstores. Right, So you
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: have the bookstore in Brooklyn, but you have their main
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: center of worship there in Brooklyn as well. But this
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: center what we're looking at now, was all destroyed. SERCA
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: two thousand and five, thousand and six.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Just came in and leveled it.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, about Jeffrey seen the pyramid to the light.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Is that what they called his aperient? What's that about?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: I'm familiar with that that reference. Do you know that one?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: What the pyramid to the right? The jeff Epstein pyramid
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: to the right. I know Epstein had really strange things
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: on his island.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I think he was in occultist for sure.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: So Epstein when when I when I first started looking
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: at him years ago, he looked at all those Florida documents, right,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: this is probably I did a podcast. I actually just
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: hit nine years. I think it'll be two days, it'll
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: be nine years. I started operating GCD because I was
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: I was injured recovering from a massive injury, paralyzing injury,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: and towards the end of my career there in the
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Air Force, and I was reservist at that time because
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: I had left active duty. I did thirteen active and
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: seven the reserves. But at that time I was in
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: the reserves and rehabbing some injuries. So I was reading
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: a ton before that because I already rehab another injury
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: that you're prior. But that's why I started operating GCD.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: And one of the first topics I dove into was
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein because you know, the Florida Sunshine Laws permitted
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: all those documents to be available to the public from
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: his from his case down there. So I was diving
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: into that and looking at you know, because it's preposterous too.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, dude builds a wing of the Palm Beach
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: County jail for him to check into on weekends for
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: thirteen months of an eighteen month conviction that he got,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: you know, of a pleague agreement, and then every other
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: time he's just signing out of there. Right, he only
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: has to spend sixteen hours on the weekend in that
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: jail of the wing that he built for himself, right,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: and you know the other times he gets to sign out, Well,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: every time he signs out and go into his house
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: and apparently to his island, it seems he's not signing
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: a signature on the sign out logs, he's signing an
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: infinity symbol, well, what appears to be an infinity symbol
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: like the you know, the sideways eight. So my understand
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: that's some sort of magician signature. And then you're kind
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: of looking at his crowd. Is so Glenne Maxwell's brother
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: in law is the son of Frank Molina Jack Parsons
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: number two in the Sue Side squad, So there's a
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: lot of occultism around that whole crowd if you ask me.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: And of course Glenn Maxwell's father was a scientologist, Robert Maxwell.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Oh it gets so deep. I've been doing shows on
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: Virginia Geffrey.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: And her parent.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Suicide and it's just so so convoluted and confusing, Like
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: the entire thing, bro, It's.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Hard to even wrap your head around what's going on
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: with it.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: But people sure like to roast you online about it
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: when you leave out some any kind of information about anything.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: Well, if you don't blame that very small, you know,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: a small hats wearing nation over there in the Middle East,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: then apparently you're the problem. But again, it goes beyond
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: just that, and I always call that problem the Rothschild
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: problem anyway, So Maxwell, the Mega Group, the Rothschilds, the Bronfmans,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: these are all very small network there that set up
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: the nation of Israel, but along with other forces of
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: a British variety. So it's not it's never just one club.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: It's it's never as black and white as folks making
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: out to me. But it does seem that amongst these
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: crew of these folk, they do have some ancient alien
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: cargo cold belief systems of varying varieties, but notably thelemic varieties.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: And like I said, Glenne Maxwell's brother in law is
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: the son of Frank Molina and the suicide squad who
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: invented the solid state rocket fuel according to Parsons, through
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: sex magic rituals.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Right, is there a statute of limitations on saying that
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: you would never kill yourself the events.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: There shouldn't be. If there is, there shouldn't be.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that there is. Hey, if you say
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: that you're never going to kill yourself, that means that
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: you're never going to kill yourself, doesn't matter how much
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: time passes in between you saying that you're never going
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: to kill yourself and supposedly dying or suicide.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there should be no requirement to provise that statement,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: that's for sure.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Right, it's unbelievable, Like people are trying to say, oh, well,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: that tweet from her was from six years ago, in
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. It's invalid. How the fuck is uninvalid?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: See even going deep on the d you ray stuff.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: I haven't got a chance to check out your podcast,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: but I have seen you doing a number of them
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: on the subjects. So what's your take on this matter?
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Well, it's so convoluted. But the bus accident stuff, I'm
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: gonna give a brief breakdown here. The bus accident stuff
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: is like a whole, like huge rabbit hole that doesn't
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: make any sense. The bus accident happened on the twenty fourth,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: And this is the guy right here, This is the
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: bus driver ross Amns. He says that the bus accident
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: was very minor. The bus accident wasn't even reported until
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: the day after. The police never showed up to the
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: bus accident. Yet she is in the hospital looking like this,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: severely beat up on the side of her face. Looks
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: like she was punched repeatedly in the side of her face.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: So the police said that the bus accident was minor.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: There was no kids on the bus. The bus driver
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: says that the bus was full of kids, that it
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: only took out a tell light and that he didn't
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: even see Virginia that was in the car. It was
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: an elderly woman which was supposedly her caretaker of that time,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: which we know what caretaker means. Caretaker just means a handler, right,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: You got a handler as aaker. And then when you
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: look into it a little bit more, you realize that
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: Virginia's husband is a domestic violence abuse her. He's been
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: beating her for allegedly over ten years. Virginia Tifrey allegens
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: a husband has physically abused her for years. I can
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: no longer stay silent. And then she made this statement
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: to People Magazine less than a week after she was
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: released from the hospital, that she has that she was
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: able to fight back against just laying Maxwell and Jeffrey
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: Epstein who abused and trafficked me. But I was unable
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: to escape the domestic violence of my marriage until recently,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: after my husband's latest physical assault. I can no longer
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: stay silent. And you kind of got to put two
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: and two together here, JJ, But when you do, you
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: realize that she's in the hospital for her husband beating her,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: not from the bus accident. What other beating would she
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: be referring to that is of recent. It would be
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: the one where she was in the hospital for looking
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: like that she got the ship beat out of her
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: face or repeatedly punched in the side of the face. Right,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: it's not hard to put two and two together on that, okay.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: And even her sister in law is saying that in
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: this People magazine article of that she's not for sure
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: if all of the injuries came from the bus accident
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: or they came from her husband beating her. Virginia's brother
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Sky Roberts and his wife Amanda, both thirty six day Virginia,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: who lives in Australia, is making the allegations because of
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: the severity of her injuries. I think that the last
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: accident that they had, she almost died. Amanda said about
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: the alleged January ninth beating. And there's proof of Virginia
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Giffray's husband beating her because there was a police report
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: that was filed January ninth, earlier in the year where
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: he beat her to an inch of her life and
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: she filed a police report on it. But then her
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: husband turns around and files a family restraining order against
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: her to set up his defense right. In case something
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: happens in the future, sure, and she ends up dead,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: then the suspicion will never fall on him because he
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: has his defense already in place. He's got this family
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: restraining order against her, and he's had the kids for
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: all this time.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: And he's a martial arts expert of some regard.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Right, that's right, He's a martial arts expert out of Australia.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: And then they were how they met was in Thailand.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Whenever Jeffrey Epstein sent Virginia to massage school in Thailand.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: He was just randomly in Thailand.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: Coincidence, right, right, Yeah, I got a lot of questions
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: about jew Fray in general, right, just her existence. So
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: she's allowed, you recruited into the network out of that
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: Florida case I was referring to before. Right, she was
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: an employee at marl I'm sorry. Her father was an
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: employee at Martin Lago, and I believe Glenn Maxwell recruited
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: her out of the women's locker room, as the story goes,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: as a fourteen year old.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so her dad worked at Marl Lago as a
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: maintenance manager. Whenever they moved from Sacramento, California, her mom
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: I just did a whole ancestry thing on yesterday.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: Because he was still working there right in recent years though, right,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: he never left, right, and he kept working there.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Well, her mom married a gentleman named Greg Craig t
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: Wilson in nineteen seventy eight, and then they had a son,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: and that's Daniel Wilson, which would.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: Be her half brother.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: And then Virginia's mom Lynn divorced Greg Craig t Wilson
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: in eighty two and then remarried Virginia's dad, sky Roberts
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: in eighty two, and then they had Virginia in eighty three,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: and then whenever Virginia was four, they moved to Florida,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: and then they had Skyrocket Roberts, Virginia's actual brother, in
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Florida in nineteen seventy nine, nineteen eighty nine. Right, these
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: dates and everything is super confusion, I want to remember.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: And then Virginia's dad got the job of mar A
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Lago and that's how they met Epstein. And then he
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: got Virginia a job in I think like the Spa
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: area or something, and that's how they met Epstein. And
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: then she's going all these trips with Epstein like all
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: over everywhere, but.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: I think she's fourteen, right when that once she got recruited.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, and then whenever she met her husband in the
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: early two thousands in Thailand, whenever Jeffrey sent her to
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: massage school. They then she then cut off contact with
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and Jesselen Maxwell and married the husband, the
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: dude that she just met ten days later in Thailand.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: And then and then Trump Trump bans Epstein over this matter.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: Right, I'm not for sure if it was exactly this thing,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: but I'm sure it had something to do with it. So,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: this this beating that she suffered earlier in the year,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: was during a trip to celebrate one of Virginia's children's
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: birthday in January, Robert allegedly beat Virginia so severely she
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: was loved with a crack something, a bruised eye, among
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: other injuries. They say she was transported to the hospital
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: for injuries, as spokeswoman said to the family shock. They
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: say Robert quickly filed a family with violence restraining order
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: alleging that she had beat him, which in this earlier,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: this earlier beating, the description that we have because we're
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: not able to get the police report of exactly injuries
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: she had. She would probably look something like this.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean looks like a handmark for sure. Let's
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: cause that injury slapping. It looks like it looks a
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: lot into like slapping to me.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: She gets out of the hospital on April seventh.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: This is her and her two brothers.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: She gets out of the hospital.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: A lot older in that picture than she did in
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: the previous photo.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: So out of the hospital on April seventh, discharged from
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Saint Charles Gardner Hospital. She posted that Instagram photo on
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: March thirtieth, six days after the bus accident. Then her
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: then she ends up dead on the twenty fifth. Okay,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: and there's no investigation, no investigation into her husband that
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: is approving domestic violence abuse her and has been abusing
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: her for ten years. So she gets out, She gets
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: out of the relationship with well, not even the relationship,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: the trafficking of Jeffrey Epstein and Jesselen Maxwell, and then
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: is immediately put into another situation where she gets constantly abuse.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right, it's weird, right, And then like during
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: that relationship about ten we'll call it circa eight years ago,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: she sues Alan Dershowitz sues her, or she sues. I
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: think Alan Dershowitz sues her and she counter sues. It's
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: based upon her book claiming that Alan Dershowitz diddled her,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: and she wrote that in her book. Right, the result
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: of that lawsuit, she hires David Boyce, who's a big
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: member of the Clinton legal team. He also, as a
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: result of that, represented Clinton Knights in Clinton operation Therapnose
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: and Elizabeth Holmes, and he was her attorney and he
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: actually got stock in that company.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: He came out of a real shady time. So this is
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: a black bag man of all black bag men. This
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: David Boy's character.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: But he represents Jufrey hires him in that lawsuit with Dershowitz,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: and the outcome of.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: That lawsuit so bizarre, is a civil.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: Lawsuit, and somehow the result of it in that New
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: York court, Dershowitz represent himself. Of course, Derschwitz and boys
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: make these I'm not an attorney, I'm also not the
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: vice president, but I am a student of legal stuff.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: And it's the most obscure legal arguments I've ever seen.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: I had no idea what was going on. I still
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: don't know what's happened in this case And I've asked
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: attorneys and they can't tell me. But somehow Dershowitz and
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: boys in this case of Dufray versus Dershowitz got criminal
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: evidence in the Epstein file case sealed under federal owner
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: court order in that case. So both sides, it's ultimately,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: I think just kind of seldom went their separate ways.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: I think it is the outcome, I think. And then
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: somehow evidence was disappeared in the case.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: So well, they tried to make her out to be
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: a liar with that whole Alan Dershowitz stuff because she
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: dropped the charges, right because of all that did you
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: just explained? Okay, So such a strange case, very strange.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: But the charges that weren't dropped was against Prince Andrew,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: and Prince Andrew settled out of court for reportedly twelve
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: million dollars and somewhere upwards of nineteen million dollars.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: Right, what they're trying.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: To make these accusers and these people out to be
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: like liars. That's why the whole thing with the bus accident,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: there's so much nonsensical garbage and painting her out to
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: be a liar. I mean, Prince Andrew's ex girlfriend. Whenever
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: she was involved in the bus accident, she was posting
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: all of these stories on Instagram saying that this is karma.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: This is what you get Virginia Jeffrey for being a liar. Okay,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: so they made up this whole bus accident continuity stuff
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: to try and paint her out to be a liar
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: whenever she's actually in there lying to cover up for
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: her husband beating her because she can't say that the
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: injuries came from her husband because her husband already has
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: the defense set up, already has the family violence restraining
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: order against her. If she were then and start saying, oh,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: this was my husband that gave me these injuries, they're
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: probably not going to believe her, right because her husband
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: has had the kids for this entire time and he
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: has the family of violence for straining order. So she's
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: in a really big situation here. But then she gets
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: on and gives this exclusive statement to People Magazine. This
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: People Magazine article is literally all you need to read.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: It all makes sense once you read this entire People
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Magazine article. She says that she in a roundabout way,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: says that the injuries did not come from the bus accident.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: They came from her husband beating her, her brother, and
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: her sister in law. Essentially say that the next time
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: that she gets into an altercation with her husband, she
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: might not make it out alive. Okay, you just gotta
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: just use your brain for two seconds and put two
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: and two together on it. And if her husband wasn't
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: the one that killed her, he is definitely implicated here
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: in some some investigation needs to be done on Robert
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: Gifray here, which is so interesting because Robert Giuffrey, his
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: first name is Robert. You got Guy Williams Roberts, which
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: is Virginia's dad. You have Virginia's brother that is sky
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: Rocket Roberts. You got Daniel Wilson, which.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: Is her half brother.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Then you got sky Williams Robert. Like all these people
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: shared the same types of names somewhere in their middle
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: name or her name where their last name is so strange.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: It is strange, and I was gonna ask you, like
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: what your thoughts. It doesn't sound like she ever left
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: any sort of control network here, and they may not
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: have been done trafficking her, but it sounds like, well,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: I'm worried about what are they doing? With those kids,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Maybe she was just around
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: to make some kids and then they're done with her
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: for that now too, right.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: My exact thoughts right here, new Kind, How the fuck
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: is he not in fucking prison? That is right, my
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: thoughts exactly. You took the words right out of my mouth.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: And I think that this dude is involved. I think
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: that it's possible that the entire freaking family.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is involved. That's what I was getting at.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: Say, a couple of years ago, Trump did a photograph
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: with her father down there mar Alago, after you know,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: giving him a certificate like a plaque saying, you know,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: celebrating twenty five years of service at marl Laga or
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: something like that.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent sure how long he
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: worked at mar A Lago. I didn't get into those
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: records on the on the show yesterday, but he definitely
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: worked in Sacramento as a meanance guy. Then he I
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: think he runs his own business. Now. I don't think
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: he works at mar A Lago anymore. I think he
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: runs his own horse business or whatever. But he's a
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: cross dresser, dude.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: I did not know that. I've seen it.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: The only picture I've seen the man is the one
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: he did with Trump, And again I don't know when
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: it was taken, but you know, i've seen it in
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: recent years where he's doing some sort of you know,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: commemorating him for a long long period of time.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: They're working more logo. But no idea was a cross
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: dresser information.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's uh, let's fine. I showed this on.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: Let's check this out. One of my apartment is dug
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: up here due.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: To Facebook and reveal pretty much everything here. I'm surprised
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: he hasn't made this, uh this Facebook page private, but
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: I wanted to try and be nice to him because
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: I wanted to actually bring him on and ask him
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: all his ship. Sure, but you still have hope for
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: may still be.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: Able to contact him.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: So here is his Facebook page, Sky Roberts. This is
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: Virginia Jeffrey's dad. Scroll down here a little bit right here.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, well that's isn't it?
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: Is that you, Kimberly Roberts right here? Comment on the picture.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: I love this picture of you, Sky. Your makeup looks
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: better than mine.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, with the name like Sky, it's already an
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: ambiguously gendered name, right.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: He says, no, I'm pretty sure that's you. That's this
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: is his wife right now, Kimberly Roberts, I believe. Let's
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: click on her page real quick in Washington. Let's see
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: what they about is. Maybe it's not, but that's definitely
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: him though in that photo.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: It certainly looks like the guy I recall seeing the
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: one picture, you know, as far as the facial structure
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: kind of gets kind of a squirrely looking fellow.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I guess that's not actually his wife, but
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: this looks like that him.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: I'm looking for that picture with him and Trump. I'll
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: to get back to you on that one. I was
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure when he left there. I just thought
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: it was interesting when I saw that. I was like, well,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: that was it was clearly after the the incident where
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: Epstein was banned and whatnot. So I want to say
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: maybe the maybe was there his first administration, like leading
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: up to that around that time. Maybe, But you know,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: I thought it was odd that the guy kept working there.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, that's kind of strange, right.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the whole thing is like super strange.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: But there has to be an investigation on her freaking husband.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: Robert Geffrey. I mean, there's no way around it. And
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: her dad is even saying that there's no way that
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: she committed suicide. Her lawyer is saying that maybe it's accidental.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: But this isn't the first Jeffrey Epstein or just Leaying
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: Maxwell victim that has died of suicide either. Virginia is
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: actually the third one. Okay, So you got two others
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein case, Virginia Geffray's death, Mark's third lass expert
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: se predators need to be punished. Okay, So including Virginia Giffrey,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: you have Carolina Andreano. Carolina Andriano, who testified against Geslee
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: Maxwell during her sex trafficking trial, died May twenty third,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, after an accidental drug overdose in West
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach, Florida hotel room. Okay, that's the second one.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Leah sky Patrick died at the age of twenty nine
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: after a drug overdose in West Palm Beach, Florida, in
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: twenty and seventeen, adding the police adding that the overdose
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: was accidental. Now, her lawyer, Virginia Geiffray's lawyer, oh Man,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: some of these links, these links are dead I've had
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: these links open for like weeks because I don't want.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: To like them.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: Like an Epstein victim, someone killed them. So yeah, here's
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: the question I have for you, writer. You bring up
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: some excellent points. You know, when the ceiling with all
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: in the court ceiling of all these victims names and
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: the lack of publication of an these victims names, et cetera,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: how many we don't know the other victims are?
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: How many more victims have been killed? Right?
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: What a great way to kill victims if you just
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: seal some names and then start often folks.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And then this autopsy of Virginia Giffrey is supposedly
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: going to take two freaking years. Okay, so it's understood
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: that Virginia overdose on pills. This is from the US
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: Sun article. It is understood that Virginia overdose on pills,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: just like the two previous overdoses that we just went over. Okay,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: one or two could be circumstantial, it could be a coincidence,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: but three three jj accidental overdoses.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: Then her lawyer is saying there's suicide and then there's misadventures.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: So he's essentially well, she sorry, So she is Carrie
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: Lunden is her name. That's her right here at Carrie Lunden. Yep,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: my bad, guys, I get things wrong too, Okay, I'm
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: not freaking perfect. All right, it happens. We've got a
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: big question marks all over it, carry out it. There's
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: suicide and then there's misadventure. I didn't see her in
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: her room. I wasn't there. The family said, I'm not
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: going to speculate whether it was suicide or accidental. So
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: he's proposing she damn it, I did it again. She
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: is proposing. You never know with all these transgender, freaking
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: ruinedy people. You never freaking know with a name like
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: Carrie Lunden, that Carrie could be a dude or it
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: could be a woman.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: You never freaking I forget my trains decoder ring today.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: So I'm just as confused.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I need my trans radar out that. So she
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: is basically proposing that it's accidental, just like the two
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: other Jeffrey Epstein victims that I just mentioned, Leah Sky
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: Patrick and that's another Sky. It's another Okay, So you
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: got a middle name of Jeffrey Epstein. Victim's name is Sky.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: You got her dad's name Sky Williams Roberts, her brother's
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: name sky Rocket Roberts, it's insanity. And then Caroline Andreana
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: that also died of an accidental drug overdose. But in
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: this Sun article it says it could take up to
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: two years until the Corners.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: Report is filed.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: Two years. So since there's no investigation on her death
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: being a homicide or anything suspicious happening with her death,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: that is going to be ruled a suicide or an
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: accidental suicide is going to take two years. And there's
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: a statute of limitations in Australia as well, it's one
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: to five years.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: So even they're gaming the system, they're gaming the system.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: So even if the corner finds something that is suspicious,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: it's going to make it very difficult for anybody to
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: do anything other than it being ruled a suicide because
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: of statute of limitations in Australia, two years to get
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: the Corners report or the autopsy report, and then the
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: statute of limitation is one.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: To five years.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: Depending on the case. So well, pretty well it's super wild.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: D I like how we always land on Epstein in
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: these conversations. No matter what I talk about I can
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: almost always connect it to Epstein.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: It's the six degrees of Jeffrey Epstein.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: Yep. And then people are coming on me, old, you're
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: trying to say that that you're not letting people know
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: that that her saying that she would never commit suicide
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: and that tweet happened six years ago. Yes, I have.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: Every single time I've ever brought this up. I say
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: that she posted that she would never kill herself six
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: years ago on the post. Okay, I said that every
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: single time. But there's no statute of limitations from the
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: time that you say that you're not suicidal, from the
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: time that it apparently happens. Okay, there is none. When
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: you say that you're not suicidal and you would never
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: kill yourself, means that you're not suicidal and that you
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: would never kill yourself anytime, at any point in the future.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: That's what I say.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: Do you think she's dead, do you think she's actually dead,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: or what are your.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: I believe I mean, I mean there's been people that
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: say that the phoe of of her in the hospitals
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: of a corpse, but that's not true. There's photos of
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: her out after the hospital where she's pictured after the
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: bus crash, which I guess this is a good time
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: to bring that up to squash any of those people.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: It was an odd claim.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: They're right with her claim she's got four days to
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: live because of some kidney situation or something.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: Right, was that part of it? I'm making that.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: Up, Okay. So this is when she left the hospital.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: She pulled into a feed store near the Royal Retreat
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: in north of Perth, and the blue Chevrolet Silverado being
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: driven by a bearded man, which I believe is her
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: step out for half brother Daniel Wilson. And this is
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: her in the vehicle after she left the hospital.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: She looks relatively healthy, right, Yeah.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: She looks pretty good.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: So she's hers, her and her half brother.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: So they're pictured outside of the hospital. So she can't
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: be Dad in the photos. Okay, it's just an impossibility.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 4: Here she is and here's her half brother.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: I'm right, yeah, yeah, he's driving because the driver's side
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: is on the right side of the vehicle in Australia,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: so she can't be This can't be a corpse here.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: So of course people are going to argue with me.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: These photos are faked. These are fake photos. This isn't
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: even her.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 4: But it is her.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can even see a little bit of
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: bruising there on that forehead, still right, that mark on
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: the forehead, still that that that slap mark.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: What appears to be two fingers.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: Yep. So this is her after she left the hospital.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure that this is her brother right
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: here does not look like the same guy. This Daniel
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: Wilson here on the right. This is her actual biological brother,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: sky Rocket Roberts here on the left. Take a good
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: look at this guy here on the right. Sends him
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: into your brain. And then look at this guy.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: Oh it's the same white of the beard too, right, Yeah.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: I think that's her half brother that's driving the vehicle
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: after the hospital accident.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense. You see the white the white
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: beard is the same.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's my investigation on the Virginia Giffrey face.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: I'm glad we brought it is. I had to clear
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: up some things there, you go. People have been.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: People have been after me, freaking hounding me, shut up,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: and I just keep posting this freaking People magazine article
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: that proof is that her husband beat the shit out
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: of her earlier in the year.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's it's a it's such a
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: very you know, contentious topic. When anything you get into Epsteam,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, it just gets very
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: it gets very polarizing very quick. I feel like folks
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: are very set in their positions almost like and I
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: have a lot of questions about the situation because I
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: really wonder you know, you know, not not like uh
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: anyone really ever talks about it, but less Wesner gets
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: a free pass on everything, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: you know, this is a guy who not only in
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: Victoria Secret and everything else like that which she saw
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: the Abercrombie got, the Abercrombie guy getting.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: Busted on some child or not some shop some sort
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: of sex trafficking.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: You.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was children though, but uh, you know,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: Wester also bought the Air America from the CIA. I mean,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: he was running those same routes with his clothing lines over.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: To the South Pacific.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot to be you know, a lot
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: of questions with that, you know, non maybe not non Epstein,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: but they at least all related to Wester, who was
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: his only client, who gave him a townhouse, the largest
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 3: townhouse in Manhattan, Dude.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: The rabbit hole goes so freaking deep, so deep. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even have kept track of all this stuff, to
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  Speaker 1: be honest. I've just been looking at it and doing
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  Speaker 1: shows on it, like all the time, so it's brushing
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  Speaker 1: my memory, and I can remember it pretty well. But
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  Speaker 1: it's so convoluted, and there's so much more stuff to
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  Speaker 1: go into. I mean, looking at her family tree, it's
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  Speaker 1: all convoluted. I mean, people say that her brothers are
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: actually her stepbrothers, but they're not really her step brothers.
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  Speaker 1: They're Sky Roberts is her real biological brother. Daniel Wilson
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  Speaker 1: is her half brother a previous marriage with her mother.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody knows where her mother is. We don't know if
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: her mother is still alive. I saw obituary from the
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  Speaker 1: ancestry dot com yesterday, but I can find out the
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  Speaker 1: exactly if she's dead. Her brother, sky Rocket Roberts is
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  Speaker 1: supposedly from Colorado Springs. Daniel Wilson is supposedly from Florida,
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  Speaker 1: which doesn't make any sense because he was born in
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  Speaker 1: California three years before Virginia was born, so he would
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: have been three whenever Virginia was born. They left, so
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: he would have been he would have been seven years old.
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  Speaker 1: He would have lived seven years in Sacramento, California before
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  Speaker 1: they picked up and moved to Florida. So you would
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  Speaker 1: think that he put his hometown as California and not Florida.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe he doesn't. Maybe he feels like that he
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  Speaker 1: because he doesn't remember anything from California, so he just
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  Speaker 1: puts that he's.
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  Speaker 4: You know, from Florida.
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  Speaker 1: But that doesn't explain why sky Rocket Roberts says that
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  Speaker 1: he is.
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  Speaker 4: From Colorado and grew up in Colorado.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 3: None of them means yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't make
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  Speaker 3: a lot of sense. But what you're describing to me
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: sounds a lot like the activities of a family who's
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: involved in sex cult. In sex cult, you have multiple
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: siblings with very questionable parentage, You have a lot of
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: half siblings, You have various travels that don't seem comport
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: with the means of economically speaking, or necessarily motives to
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: move across across the country. Other other than maybe these
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: people a part of sex cult.
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  Speaker 1: Well, then you get into well, who gets the rest
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: of the money that Virginia is owed from Prince Andrew.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: Does her family get it? Because all that money wasn't
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: paid out. I'm pretty confident that Prince Andrew did not
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: pay out the entire thing in one large lump sum.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: Nobody ever pays out any kind of lawsuit one large
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: lump sum. Whenever you, you know, suttle out of court
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: or when if you sue a corporation or you sue
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: an individual, they are not required to pay you all
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: that in one large lump sum. It's normally spread out
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: over a period of years. So she's probably made last
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: two years gotten a quarter of the money that she's out.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: So who does who does the money that go to
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: that Prince Andrew? Oh, for the rest of the money,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: does it revert back to Prince Andrew? Does he not?
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: Might? Might? You might? Does that seal? Right?
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: That was a sealed uh settlement? Right, So you bring
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: up some good points to I mean, it might might
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 3: go back to Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's pretty suspicious. Your accuser dies a couple of
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: years after you settle out of court with.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: Her, that's big time suspicious. But it's the it's part
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: with the course with these folks, writer, because if you
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 3: recall these incidents after that Ufrey lawsuit with Dershowitz when
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: when Dershwitz is running some interference in the media to
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: tell everyone his pal Prince Andrew and you know didn't
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: didn't till anybody, you know, nor did Jeffrey Epstein to
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: his understanding, because he he only got one massage by
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: an adult messuse. According to Dershowitz, Uh, he doesn't like
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: he doesn't like massages, but he was forced to. You know,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: he try to leave a shirt on, but they wouldn't
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 3: let him. These are the nonsense that he says. But
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: you know it was. It's Dershowitz though that he does
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: an interview running interference on these matters, trying to describe it. Well,
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: Prince Andrew's a good guy. He and it's in his
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: apartment up there in in Boston, and he's got on
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: the couch behind him. He's in there at the table right,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's British sixty minutes. And
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: they're sitting like a table in his living room or whatever.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: And the couch behind him near the window in the
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: living room. There's like a uh senior citizen like old
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: lady sex doll. The entire time is sitting on the
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 3: couch behind them and frame when they're talking about how
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: Prince Andrew doesn't you know, is in the violet of
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: young women. It's just bizarre. It's the weirdest, like put
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: away your old lady sex doll. Alan No one wants
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: to see that.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: Them says when theirs inherent that judgment, Well, we would
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: hope so. But I definitely don't want her woman beat
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: her husband, domestic violence, abuser, narcissist, dick bag to get
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: our money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 3: And they live in Australia too, so those are different
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: laws over there, way different.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know how it works.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it would revert back to Andrew
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: or if it would go to her, which the whole
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: thing between her and her husband seems to be a
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: complete set up in concoction of Jeffrey Epstein from the
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: very beginning for sure, which seems like to be another
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: handler of her.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: Seems that way, seems that.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: Way, Well, JJ, not the president, not the vice president.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: Can you let people know where to find you, brother writer.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate the conversation of your time and the invite.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: Definitely we'll have to link back up again in the
• 1:48:07
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• 1:48:11
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• 1:48:14
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• 1:48:17
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• 1:48:20
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• 1:48:23
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