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Episode 305: Remnants (SG-A 5.15) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

• 0:25
  Speaker 1: Get into gates. Mister three or five, got that look
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  Speaker 1: in your face like I was waiting to play a song.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: How dare you? That's aught we can do? Otherwise Spotify
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  Speaker 1: are going to cancel this podcast. I might have to
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  Speaker 1: play some others throughout the song. But yeah, Overlords episode
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  Speaker 1: three or five, we are talking Stargate Atlantis Remnant's episode
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  Speaker 1: number fifteen of season five of SGA.
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  Speaker 2: You do there, We do there, a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: you need a little bit ki week Well, my cousin
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  Speaker 2: Bruce up the Well and a Galvin guests during this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Kwek is she.
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't know whether it was an American actress
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  Speaker 1: unable to put on an Australian accent, but said she's
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  Speaker 1: a key we.
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  Speaker 2: Playing and was no, she was a keep playing a Kiwi.
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  Speaker 2: I thought she was Australian until I heard in the
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  Speaker 2: order commentary that she was a key with the.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get into it with the flag on her.
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  Speaker 2: They're so close.
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  Speaker 1: I know what's the difference.
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  Speaker 2: They have red stars and we have fucking stars. Really?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember her. I wish we're getting way
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  Speaker 2: to in this week. Remember seasons ago, I played Genie
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  Speaker 2: from down under Genie from down Under the straight note,
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  Speaker 2: you have no memory she was in Genie from down Under?
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  Speaker 1: Oh this check? Yeah, yeah, I do not remember. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into We've got We've got a.
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  Speaker 2: Whole routine here.
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  Speaker 1: We've got you know, with mister routine, Mitch Maddie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, episodes, I'm Brendan your Reese. It's people still say
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  Speaker 2: that they can't tell the difference.
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  Speaker 1: Between Yah, you know what, why do we bother anymore?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: We had to say, oh, you know, it sucks that
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: Reese isn't on the podcast anymore. Wait what since when
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: when there would know? They would no remnants. While Richard
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: Woolsey struggles to keep his position as the leader of
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  Speaker 1: Atlantis and McKay and Zelenka investigate a mysterious find, Shepherd
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  Speaker 1: is captured by an old enemy with plans to invade
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  Speaker 1: the city.
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  Speaker 2: A great guy, love, Mitch, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I think because of the way this was was told,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of didn't know what was going on depending
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  Speaker 1: on which scene we were watching, right like where we
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  Speaker 1: were placed, you know, with the John stuff, how that
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  Speaker 1: was related to what was going on in the city,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, we John was already on the land.
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  Speaker 1: From the beginning, he's fine, we know where he is,
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  Speaker 1: we know who he's with. And yet and yet, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, a couple of minutes, couple of scenes into
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  Speaker 1: the Atlantis storyline was when hey, let's go and scan
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  Speaker 1: this thing and maybe we'll go and find some stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And then some problems started to have for them. But
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  Speaker 1: then there's already other problems going on with John and
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  Speaker 1: the land, and it's like, well, are these related? But no,
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  Speaker 1: because what's going on in Sga. We got this woman
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  Speaker 1: who seems a little bit too friendly with Wolsey, she's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit too suspicious. The whole finding of stuff
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  Speaker 1: in the ocean, there's one thing. But then we've got
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  Speaker 1: something that's very familiar in cool Yer popping up on
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  Speaker 1: the land. So, like I I was a bit lost
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  Speaker 1: as to what was going on in a really enjoyable way.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't like the idea of which probably
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  Speaker 1: should have seemed very obvious in a way that I
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  Speaker 1: could have just turned this on and went, ah, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh this is fake. None of this is real. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: until you know John lost a hand and I'm like, well, okay.
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  Speaker 2: That was my moment. I'm like, is that the moment
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  Speaker 2: where you went, oh, Okay, something's really.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously that's clearly not real. Yeah. But at the same
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  Speaker 1: time and I'm like, well, that's a big step to
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  Speaker 1: take wow this early in the episode when we're probably
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  Speaker 1: not going to get any answers, resolution, whatever about that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: until three minutes before the end.
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  Speaker 2: It would be great though, because we're five episodes from
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  Speaker 2: the end of the season slash series. Yeah, for Jonda
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  Speaker 2: lo's a hand in Buffy spoiler loret twenty one who
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  Speaker 2: hasn't seen it?
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  Speaker 1: Whoa Buffy? No, I refuse to watch Buffy. I mean
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  Speaker 1: hear anything about Buffy that was well?
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  Speaker 2: No, people loved it, well because retroactively now everybody hates Xander,
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  Speaker 2: which you know, that's a whole different ted talk on
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  Speaker 2: its own. But maybe three episodes before the end of
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  Speaker 2: the year and they knew this was the last season.
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  Speaker 2: Three episodes before the end of the series. Nathan Fillion,
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  Speaker 2: he's the bad guy. He comes in, sticks his thumb
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  Speaker 2: in Xander's eye and pops his eyeball. Yep So for
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  Speaker 2: the last three episodes of the series, Xander's like an eyepatch.
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  Speaker 2: He's like he's like a pirate and they make all
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  Speaker 2: these pirate jokes and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I kind of like the idea that
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  Speaker 1: maybe that that would be him for the rest of it.
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  Speaker 1: Like it was in a way a little bit anticlimactic
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  Speaker 1: because we don't see it, We don't see his pain,
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  Speaker 1: his reaction till we come back. He's not even bleeding
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  Speaker 1: that much.
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  Speaker 2: He's already bandaged up, and he's like whoa yep.
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  Speaker 1: And we see him not really struggle with it at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, right like when he first escapes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's like, well, that's not my winking hands.
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  Speaker 1: How useless was Colia's little assistant at that particular juncture,
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  Speaker 1: You know, we get that it's not actually really what's
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  Speaker 1: going on, but where he just looks as far as
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  Speaker 1: we're led to believe as an audience member, even if
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  Speaker 1: we're starting to, oh, what's really going on here, Colia
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  Speaker 1: turns away for a second and he's looking almost sideways
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  Speaker 1: at a guy to then look back at where John were.
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  Speaker 1: That guy would have seen John get up and roll away,
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  Speaker 1: but he clearly didn't. And then the next time we
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  Speaker 1: see him, he's gone full Rambo from First Blood and
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  Speaker 1: has laid out a trap to be able to whist
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  Speaker 1: this guy up steal he's gun, use him as a
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  Speaker 1: human shield kill to other blokes. Yeah, And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: oh shit, you're doing all this with one hand. This
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  Speaker 1: is incredible, so.
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  Speaker 2: A very painful, bleeding hand. You would imagine Wow, clearly
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  Speaker 2: not they wouldn't have cauterized that or anything like that,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: But then when he goes over the cliff and I'm like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're you really are now, if this was to be real,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you get out of this where
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  Speaker 1: you've got to do it without another hand to help
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  Speaker 1: you up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: I have no memory.
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  Speaker 2: Of that entire plotline. Do you know what out of
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  Speaker 2: if you like, think of all the wild and crazy
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  Speaker 2: shit that happened in this episode. Do you know the
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  Speaker 2: only scenes I remember from this episode?
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  Speaker 1: Ummm, let's go with I'm gonna say it's got to
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  Speaker 1: do with Wolsey.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I go The only scenes I remember about this
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: episode are the incredibly mundane opening scene and closing scene
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  Speaker 2: where Woolsey has his sad, pathetic breakfast at the start
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  Speaker 2: and they make fun of him, and at the end
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  Speaker 2: he joins at the table. That is the only thing
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  Speaker 2: I remember, Like when Collier actually died, I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that's it. We never see Collier again,
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  Speaker 2: you know, say goodbye to Robert Davey. Well, no memory
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  Speaker 2: of him coming back.
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  Speaker 1: I've come in a lot this season, a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of last season where someone has come I'm back or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and I've went, oh, Maddie, and in retrospect, well Donder
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  Speaker 1: Brendan as well, for when he was here every week
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  Speaker 1: saying that's the last we see of even Beckett or yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're's gone now or whatever, and they've come back, and
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  Speaker 1: he goes, well, you know, we had to do that
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  Speaker 1: to convince you of it, whereas this happened with Colia
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't feel duped by Maddie.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like this is one of those things he
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  Speaker 1: forgot about.
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  Speaker 2: If anything happens in the next five episodes that you
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  Speaker 2: think I've been keeping from you.
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  Speaker 1: Noah, probably not.
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  Speaker 2: No memory. Yeah, from at this point, I remember the
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  Speaker 2: finale and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, well it was such a it was
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  Speaker 1: such a throwaway explanation too. He's like you're dead. He's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not. He's like, were like, we killed you. You
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  Speaker 1: didn't I shot you? Beckett pronounced you dead. He's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: that other guy that was there in that same episode
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  Speaker 1: was not the only one using alien technology that day. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: explanation done, Okay, sick. I'm like, well that yeah kind
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  Speaker 1: of can make sense until we find out for real later. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How yeah you think I think of a first watch,
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: you go, well, that's just some lazy writing. But then
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  Speaker 2: when you get to the end, you're, oh, well it
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  Speaker 2: didn't actually matter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and like again, we might be really
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  Speaker 1: skipping to the end here. But when and I do
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  Speaker 1: love when shows, you know, any kind of narrative does
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  Speaker 1: this where we're getting, you know, Woolsey having it explained
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  Speaker 1: to him while Shepherd's having it explained to him and
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  Speaker 1: using the exact same language, and they're both you know,
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  Speaker 1: went on different journeys to get to the same point.
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  Speaker 2: It was nice the way they cut back and forward
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  Speaker 2: between them, like.
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  Speaker 1: They were giving them the exact same speech.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the same AI just appearing to Yeah, two
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  Speaker 2: different forms.
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  Speaker 1: And that you know, Woolsey was on the personification essentially
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  Speaker 1: of your like sexual.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've got his dream, the literal dream woman.
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  Speaker 3: Who are you?
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: What are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm a physical manifestation of your subconscious romantic and sexual ideas.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what else does a simple man like us want?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Beautiful woman who's showing a lot of interest where no
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  Speaker 1: one else has. Yeah, yeah, I can't look.
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  Speaker 2: Fair enough read our brains figure out exactly what we
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  Speaker 2: want and then materialize it. Yeah, bing bang boom.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I'm married. My motes well done.
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  Speaker 2: You'll make sure Sarah listened to this episode now instead
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  Speaker 2: of last week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that that. He got it that way, and
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  Speaker 1: it was a little bit of a more linear path,
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  Speaker 1: I guess to getting him to the point also because
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  Speaker 1: he was in and around Zelenka and McKay actually with
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: the device trying to figure out what it was, right,
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: So it was kind of like almost pushing him in
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  Speaker 1: the right directions with regard to what else was going
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  Speaker 1: on with the IOA member coming out. Whereas John is
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: completely oblivious to any of that. Like you said, he's
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: a pantsman. He has said, oh.
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: Well, tiny denim shortz man in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, he's over there, you know, maintaining security and otherwise,
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  Speaker 1: Forest keeping keeping charge of a you know, a woman
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  Speaker 1: he's attracted to in the biology, you know, department of
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  Speaker 1: whatever description.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't give a shit about how smart she is. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but not even giving a single about anything that woman
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  Speaker 2: is saying. He's just like, what's that? What's that from
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: the Lego movie? Blah blah blah, proper nown blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: Please. I did, like. I love the moment where he
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: the other guy was like, oh my god, like rush
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: over something. He's like this now when was his episode
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and.
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  Speaker 2: Nine, November two thousand and eight.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, even better, even better where that guy says this
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: plant WHENIX dig back in two thousand and seven. I'm like, yeah,
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: me watching that in twenty twenty five, that seems like
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: a while ago. I'm thinking this is only two years
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: after that. You've just told me now it's twelve months.
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: He could have said last year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, back in two thousand and seven. I'm like, well,
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: be the way that your scientific brain were. I don't know.
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: That seems like something that was.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: That was doctor Parrish. We've seen him before. He was
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: back in Runner. Oh I Rememberan's first episode. I really yeah,
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: But obviously the next podcast. We do Gilmore Girls, No Sanctuary.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: What's it called sanctuary? Oh? Get into get into Gilmore
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: and Gilmore.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Brendan has just driven off the road the
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: iron like, Oh, I was thinking what I was thinking about,
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: asking you guys what you wanted to do?
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what did we do with fos gym? The irony
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: being this, like you, me and Lincoln could actually sit
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: down and have a pretty good conversation about Gilmore Girls
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: with how much of it you guys have actually seen? Yeah,
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: but don't don't lead on about Davis Brendan. He's seen
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: all of Next Generation and Voyager at this point, just
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: living bang your heads the show that I mean are
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: tapping and Martin Water at the moment he plays nicolay Tesla.
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: Does he really here? So there's like a so I
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: won't give way too much of Sanctuary for you.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: But there's like a core you know, it's on the list.
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it in so I think since it aired.
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: But it's like there's four or five core people that
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: like they like injected themselves with like vampire blood or
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: did some kind of experience and they've all got weird
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: and wonderful powers. And then turns out there like people
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: from history. So there's a man a Tapping's character, don't
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: know what her name Isn't that Magda or something. Then
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: there's the Sanctuary, sure, doctor Magnus Sanctuary. Then there's Todd
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: he is, yeah, he's he plays two characters. He plays
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: the the bilm Will Snowman. He plays big Foot, which
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: is like, uh, doctor Magnus sanctuaries like Butler, but he
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: also plays the bad guy Jack the Ripper brilliant and
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  Speaker 2: is also like the ex partner of doctor Magnus Sanctuary.
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  Speaker 1: Then there's like actually last name saying.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm calling it now. And then there's like
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: the Invisible Man who like obviously I guess never gets cast.
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: There's just a voice, so I don't know. But then yeah,
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: this guy doctor Parrish is Nikolai Tesla and he's like
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: he gets like vampire fangs and electricity powers or something.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know. And then there's maybe one other person
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  Speaker 2: but I don't remember. But it's basically it's the world
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: of like you know, the universal monsters, you know, and uh,
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: doctor Elizabeth Sanctuary's ed. Yeah, yeah, she has a sanctuary
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: where they like they you know, it's like a like
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: a zoo, like a sanctuary for pixies and elves and
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: Frankenstein's and were wolves.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: And that's the best explanation what that shows about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's all green screen, so there's no sets,
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: so there's apparently they're all painted orange because of the
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: way they had to shoot with the green screen, So
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: the entire backdrops it'll just be all green screen and
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  Speaker 2: they'll just be like a table in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the room. It's like it's like the Star Wars volume
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  Speaker 2: before the volume.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a shame. I think that's what's got
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  Speaker 1: me off. When it first popped up, I was like, oh,
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: look at that because I'm ender tapping. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 1: just like, I don't know that I can visually. I don't
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: know that they can do that before, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: full HDTVs as well, so like it didn't have the
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  Speaker 1: crispness that maybe it had in the end of base.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: I believe I have like maybe season one or two
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: on DVD. I think more than I think that's full.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: I think that's I fell off. I fell off towards
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: towards it. I still don't think I've ever seen the
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: last episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yeah, and he's old mate Parish. You said.
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  Speaker 1: He's banging on about this plant being similar to one
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: that had gone extinct back on Earth. And then Shepherd
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: turns to old doctor Hottie and says, well this ship, eh,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: let's go. She's like, I'm so into this whole thing.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Like he's like, oh fine, yeah, I'll go. I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think she's here for?
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Shepherd is the ronan in this situation, and then those
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: two McKay and and oh yeah dull State's character.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah definitely. Yeah. So okay, My point around that is though,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: like Shepherd wasn't under any duress. It wasn't like he
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: was in an environment like he was out there on
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: security detail, but like that was just kind of a show, right,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Like it was.
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  Speaker 2: An excuse so he could watch Doctor Hottie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they didn't think in any way, shape or
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: form that they actually needed you know, weaponry and stuff.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: They've already scanned that place. There's no life forms like
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: that need be worried about or anything.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: So whatever, it is weird that they're on another planet
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: that they just call the mainland. Yeah yeah, yeah, like
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: you look at our planet and It's like, well, what
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: part would you call the mainland? I know the planets
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: that they're on, this one and the previous one are
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: predominantly ocean, but you would think there's got to be
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: you know, there's just one continent on both with no
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: other islands.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Or anything like that. Yes, exactly the same planet for
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: a couple more moons. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I wonder
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  Speaker 1: why it was manifested like that, the the AI, the
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: alien AI situation whatever said no, no, no, you did this.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we just needed to occupy you. You chose the scenario.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you you tortured yourself. You chose the scenario. You
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: pushed this in all these directions. I'm like, yeah, but.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Why, I think I think we know why when you
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: think about it. He was very randy at the start
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: of the episode.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: So frustrated Loloe Balls presenters Collier.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: No, no, well, I think you know, in the same
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: way that Woolsey, you know, created his ideal partner in Conrad,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: John created his ideal partner.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: That he needed too or.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: He wanted to shoot, but not his gun, you know
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, Robert Darby does fill out one of those outfits,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: did well?
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: You could you could pearl necklace and fill a few
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: of those craters.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: And you know, I apologize everyone.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: I just think he likes that a little rough. I
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: think that's what it is.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: John, Yeah, you.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Know, because he was all worked up from from Doctor Hotpants.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: And and then as if Laren wouldn't absolutely smack him
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: around the room, the fifty shades, he'd be on all
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: four is getting led around like on a leash.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: She would get that blaster, put it on his taint
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: and just just give him a little zap, just a little.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think she'd leave a chair like there'd actually
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: no physical contact.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: No, it'd be the chair from Bond with the no
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: seat and with the word the not.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: In it, and that he would sign up for that.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just imagine that episode a couple ago
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: where the other woman showed up, Oh Laren's busy, Yeah
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: got bombed and he's like oh and then he goes
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: and puts like the gag back in his back.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, oh, I thought Lara was going.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: To be damn it. Remember a few weeks ago when
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: he had the the turtleneck on under his uniform. That's
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: actually the give master just calls up. He's ready to go.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: It's got a collar underneath. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well maybe
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: maybe do you.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Think his safe word is he's safe word?
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Collya who worked out his kinks? Okay, Beck, it's got shoes.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: John's got a rough thing going.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: And no shame, I am not a king. Shame one
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: thousand percent.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: We're not here to look.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Who doesn't like a little throat grab. It's all I'm saying.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: We don't mind a little, just a little, just not
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: to leave a mark, but just a lot. Never like
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: cut air off or anything like that, but just a little.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: It's how you know they care.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I was thinking of a different chair when you said bond.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: But you haven't seen those this Bond because I haven't
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: let you start watching the Bond movie.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Is that what bond is short for? Maybe Bond his
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: first name, and age is his last name.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe there's there's a there's a a chair he gets
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: put in like this torture device. And I forget where
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: they said, like what culture used to use it? But
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: he gets put in this chair. His hands are tied
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: behind his back or like down below like besides his
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make he can't go back to the he's
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: got like this, like brass class that goes around his
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: neck that sort of like is put again like he's
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: sort of giant wooden backing onto the chair. So it's
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: keeping well it could be I don't know. It was
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: a gold brass popper. I don't know whatever it was.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: And then there's this other device. There's like a little
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: little wheel and they turn it and it starts to
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: like this other like a bolt push pushes the back
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: of your neck, and so it pushes the back of
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: his neck further towards the thing.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: It's this is Daniel Craig.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: No, this is Pierce Brosnan, right you Hey, you don't know.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: He's dressed in a very fine suit. Hey, hey, hey,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: give yourself some time. Don't don't write off Pierce bros.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Because now I'm picturing missus doubt Fire being the one
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: turn in the thing, which that might be some people's kinks.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Someone get ai on. I don't want to take jobs
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: off people, but it might cost us, So I just
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I just want to see what this looks like. If
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: MIPS is doubtful, I was one doing it. She made
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a point today, this woman who's doing it to him,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: saying do you not happen it's a woman.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's like, do.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Not happen to a man when he's strangled? And then
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: she sits on top of him whoa and starts sort
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: of smile because it's like, well, and I as a
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: thirteen year old boys, like, what does happen to ahah?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: It sounds like you're going to say, do you know
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: what happens to a toad when it's struck by lightning? Well?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: That comes out?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: You know what happens to a man when he's what?
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: When he's strangled?
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Strangled? The same thing that happens to everything else?
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Tell you that's where Joss Whedon got that line from
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the X Men script. So here we go in nineteen
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: ninety nine. He's watching the World is Not Enough and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: it's like, do you not happen to when a man
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: is strangled? He's like, you're going to write a line
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: like that. Do you know what happens to a toad
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: when it's struck by lightning? Is the same?
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Is that where or asyxiation comes from?
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: What does that?
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I thought it was just people who enjoyed getting strangled,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: But he's that of like physiological thing. If you get
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: strangled hard enough.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: You you're asking me like, I know I'm not because
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you googled it.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Holly, you heard him, he said, he googled it.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: If I did, it was twenty six years ago. He
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: was sure it was buddy? Or am I to asked someone?
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: What happens?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Dad?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: He don't went to the movie from yet.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: You're like, Sarah, can I call you missus moneypenny or yeah?
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Non interesting anyway?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Anyway, Stargate, I'm scheduled activation.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Whoa, I haven't heard that in a while. Welcome it,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: welcome hello, just bring it back the old classics. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: love it.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Here it is.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: We've got an unscheduled off world activation from yarn who
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: slipped into my DMS. Yes, Yan, Oh my god, he
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: seriously just listen to you episode where.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Uh he gets he gets.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Brainwashed and.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: But you're wrong.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: You're so humble. I love it.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I love this about you.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Think this country agreed.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: They what a great episode.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: So he wrote you just to say thanks for omitting
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you were wrong because that's not part of your.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I'm so humble. I'm the most humble person ever. Yeah,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I love the laugh. It's very does it? NICKI minaj
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: or someone who's that? What's that one? I got a
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: big fat ass.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: That Cardi B maybe it's one of the two.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Wow, racist, are you gonna throw Megan the Stallion in
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: there as well?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: No, because I don't know any of her work except
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: for twerking on she help. That's as much Megan the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Stallion as I know.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: You're like, I've seen that and that is enough. Thank you,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Jan That was that was fantastic.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: But that aside, I like the I don't know that
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: it was a wacky idea. I guess that, you know,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: one of these episodes that starts to you know, make
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you ask questions again or whatnot, the idea of I
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: guess what the IOWA was suddenly putting forward to to Woolsey,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: you know, going well, duh, give us the info, like
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: we want all this science info. We want everything that
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: we can learn from whatever this device is. And he's like, yeah,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: but there's potentially billions of lives that we would just end.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Like these people put their put their future or their
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: hopes of their civilization into things like this or into
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: this one thing. What do they know at the time
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: that there were many or that there was just one,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: whatever it was. Either way, there's a lot here and
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: we are just going to end it because we're being
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: selfish might be the wrong word, but it's still being selfish, right.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know kind of it's a similar moral
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: quandary to like back with like Scorched Earth, that kind
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: of thing, where it's like, well, you know that that
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: big ship had you know, the DNA and all the
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: stuff of this entire civilization to terrorform that planet. So
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: you know, so it's like, well, do you blow it
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: up and kill all those millions of people to save
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: this little village of you know, over a thousand people
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: or whatever? Yeah, yeah, similar, similar kind of thing.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, so, like, I just don't know that
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I liked the It was a good throw back because
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: it was throwing back to last week, right with the
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: idea of the puddle jumper underwater. They said that was
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: they said, oh, that happened.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Weeks ago, yes, and that was that was how they
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: got around the fact that this device only got activated
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: just recently because it detected that. So it's a long
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: bow given that you know, Atlantis kind of crashed on
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: that planet, and you would think the energy signature of
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Atlanta's would be slightly large.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: It might have been enough. Yeah, I think that's where
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I and even just to take it just to this
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: episode in particular, like we already had him out there
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: being being shep, but he's already on the mainland. And
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: then we've already got you know, Woolsey walking around. He's
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: got some issues to deal with, blah blah blah. And
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: then we cut to Zelenka asking Rodney, Hey, got an
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: extra five minutes. Do you mind if I go into
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: this thing that I've been thinking about doing. Never spoken
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: about it before, but I've been wanting to do it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I just want to I don't know, maybe just search
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the ocean fur. We're always thinking about space, but we
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: don't know much about the old planet we call home,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: so maybe you'll just search it. It won't take long,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and they go, it'll scan the entire planet in half
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: an hour, which I guess if you're doing long range
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: sensors into space that can detect things like thousands of
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: light years away, detecting an entire planets.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: But also like I mean, maybe I'm thinking about human sensors.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: But it's like, Okay, if we scan the moon, right,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: we can't scan the backside of the moon. Yeah, Like
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: what's current on the back you can't get it. So
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: it's like, how does Atlantis scan the other side of
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: the planet, you know what I mean, Like.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, like you said, Justynology ancient, Yeah, wipe it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Away to have set it up in this episode and
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: then immediately they find this thing that was already then
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: kind of already happening. It was I don't know, I
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: just one of those little bits. It's just okay, it's
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: a matter of convenience we write in this discovery just
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: because I don't know, it just felt like at the
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: timing was too perfectly. All these things had to align right.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I feel like they've hung a lantern on the fact
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: that we've been on this planet for almost two years
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: now and we've done nothing about it. And it's something
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I spoke about in was the First Strike? Is that
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: what it's called where we leave the original Atlantis planet?
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: We leave it, and I'm like it we lost a
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: lot of story then, Like we had a lot of
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: cool things about the planet. Yeah, this little when it
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: was a probe or whatever, it was a little what
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: are they call it when you put things in the
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: time capsule. You know, it could have been on the
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: other side of the original planet. You know, and because
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: they said it was they'd only been there for like
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: two thousand years or something like that, whereas you know,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Atlantis went down ten thousand years ago. So yeah, it's
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: one of those weird things to think that it was,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: you know, that close to us this whole time. It
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: could have you know, and like I said, we've flown
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: to the mainland a bunch of times. Just Rodney wouldn't
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: have left the vicinity of Atlantis that far to just
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: kind of loop around to then you know, activate the stargate. Yeah,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: so surely our other jumpers have because they said it
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: was only five hundred feet below the surface or something
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: like that, fifteen hundred, five hundred, five hundred meters below
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the surface. So yeah, it was a little bit convenient.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: But if you start poking holes in it, I think
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: the whole episode comes unraveled then because also Wolsey as
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: the head of Atlantis, and as we established last week,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: he's the very anal leader of Atlanta's where he's making
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: every single member do a report and all that kind
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: of stuff. The leader of Atlantis has to approve every
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: single person that becomes a member of the expedition, So
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Woolsey would have to know who Conrad is.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I found that very weird from the start. Yeah, yeah,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: it just seemed like it was a bit so it
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: was obviously a plant of something, you know what we
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: don't We don't know what it is. So yeah, it
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: just did seem a little bit odd that, Yeah, he
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: would be completely unaware of who this person.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they could have put a line in there about
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: something that's like, oh, yes, I remember approving your file.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: There was no photo I didn't recognize, yeah, you know
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: something because.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's attaching to something in the memory. It's like, yeah,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: she's just plucked something up, and maybe that's how we
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: found it. Rather than going to old love in the
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: control room and saying can you tell her? Buzz through
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: to her quarters and tell her, oh, lah, I have
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: to push our dinner back a little bit. That instead,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: either maybe she pulls up the profile and then he
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: sees that it's a different face yes, or he says, actually,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I'll go and tell her myself. He goes and knocks
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: on a door and it's somebody else unpacking or something,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you know, And that's what sort of that throws him
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: off a little bit, because yeah, just the idea that
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, I mean, this whole other side of
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: his story in this episode was about the fact that
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: he's this boss and is he good enough to keep
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: his job? And yet at the same time, we've already
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: seen him introduced to a character that he's probably should
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: have been aware of, and he was saying that he
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: had no idea about who she was and while she
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: was introducing himself herself to him.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: So something that I thought was interesting is I'm pretty
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: sure they said in this because I'm assuming Joo and
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Conrad basically the idea being they both came on the
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: same ship coming through, but they said the Apollo, not
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: the Dadalists. Yeah, now there was something in the triper
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: about this is the first time, you know, Apollo has
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: come to Atlantis without having a specific sort of mission,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: because it's all with the Dadalus that is the bus
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: that goes sort of back and forth. And the only
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: reason they created the Apollo is because Mitch, Mitch Bitch,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Mitch Poleggi was becoming unavailable because he was on another show,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: so they brought in They created the Apollo with Michael
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Beach's character so they could use him whenever Mitch was unavailable. Yeah,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: neither of the leader, like the commanders of those ships
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: were in this episode. So it felt a really weird
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: thing to say, to just sort of put into the
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: into the cannon of the show that oh yeah, the
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Apollo is ferrying missions back and forth as well. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: so yeah, I thought that was a weird choice.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the the motive of that AI was to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: like get to the heads of these people to like
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: do the right thing. It's like almost come find us,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: but I had been found, so it's like, well, do
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the right thing with us.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: To playing three eventual chess. Yeah, it's like we're gonna
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: we're gonna make you find our pod, but then also
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: instruct you how to open it, but then also make
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: sure that you don't, you know, take all the knowledge
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and then all our people, which is a pretty poor
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: design in terms of that technology. You know, it's like, well,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: if we take the technology, then we can't we can't
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: just copy it all. We can't just you know, control
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: X or whatever it is and copy everything. If we
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: if we take this information, then this this society doesn't
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: doesn't approprate again.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is a like godlike power to have to
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: sit there and go, yeah, I mean you think about
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: all the things that you know we've got on Earth
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: right now, I'm to the like a repository of information
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: type thing out there. But then they talk about that thing,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: what what ice country is it in in the Arctic
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: somewhere like some you know, like Greenland, Iceland, Norway sort
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: of sort of area and.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: The Nordic Yeah, uh, Scandinavia, Yeah, yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: The coldest of the cold. And they've got like that
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: giant silo essentially like deep deep, deep, deep deep within
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the ice and the rock, and how like.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: All the seeds and stuff. The seeds, right, I'm pretty
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: sure that's Norway. I think that's normal.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And they're like it's so super secret. It's
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: one of the most like heavily guarded, like secret, super
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: secret places on Earth. And it's got like seeds of
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: all different types of fruits and everything's got has got
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: a DNA of animals and stuff in there as well.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. And then you think about like
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the thing that we've already sent out, which is beyond
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: our solar system. Now that's just heading off and it's
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: got information.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: The voyager probe.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I forget which one I was.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: The voyager, But.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: It is, but it is that.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I can say it without getting
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: in trouble.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Sure, if you start saying voyager probe when you actually
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: just mean something to do with janeway or something, I.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Don't know what you're talking about me. Of course you
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: would have never heard that way before, don't you misinterpret this?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Eyebar arrays every time I say.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: That, And it's almost like a time capsule itself of
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Earth and our history and all that sort of thing.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: And how alien's going to learn to speak and read
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: our language. That's I guess their problem when they find
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: it in ten thous and you.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Could almost call it like friendship one or something. You
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: don't even know what that.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Is, I don't, but the fact that you're saying it
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: means it's something in particular.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Aky K.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Why so like, yeah, we've got certain things like that
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: already in our world that exists. The idea of like, well,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: this this civilization put these things, like multiple of these
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: things and just like shot them out hopefully finding somewhere
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: suitable for their life.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't be awkward if like multiple ones had succeeded. And
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: then it turns out that there's just clone societies on
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: four different planets.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't think about that. Yeah, but the idea of
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: like the cold version of the AI saying I got
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: us here, you just missed the mainland. We've been sitting
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: on the bottom of the floor for two thousand years
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: of the ocean floor, and so now that we're here. Cool. Cool.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, sweet, So what are they gonna do? Just
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: fire it back off or do you like, you know,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: this is during the episode obviously, I'm like, or do
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you just just carry it and put it onto the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: mainland and hope for the best, because I guess in
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: a way, Okay, yeah, this planet was uninhabited before before
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Atlanta's got this the idea of like, you know, they're
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: gonna start evolutional over again, right, It's like we've got
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: these like microorganisms that are gonna like it's it was
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: such a long play, like we're gonna drop some stuff
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: that's eventually gonna like develop and evolve over millions of
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: years into some type of sentient creature. It wasn't just
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: like clones are going to sprout up out of the ground,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: right like they were going to turn into arguably the
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: a ninety percent different vert I guess that's not necessarily true,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: because what are we one percent different from like bananas?
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Bananas or something great? A couple of percent difference? Yeah,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: or is that why monkey's e ban Oh shit, brain food?
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: It was going to say, is that is that cannibalism,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: some type of canalism.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe that they would develop into a creature so unlike
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the one that sent them out there based on the
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: environment that they evolved in. But yeah, we obviously can't
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: do that on this mainland because where But then again,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: we could do that the landi's mission is going to
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: be over by the time these things become more than what.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: But also measure how frustrating it would be there because
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: we don't know how big the mainland is. Is it
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Is it the size of like Africa, or is it
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: the size of Tasmania? Is it Hawaii?
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: So it's like imagine like it does hit Land, and
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: then the society starts propagating and the first first people
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: pop out and go, you've really got enough room here.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: So somehow we're going to have to recreate our spacefaring
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: technology and just starting to find a whole lot of
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: different planet to begin with.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Let's hope it, yeah, like Africa or Australia or something.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Even Australia, Australia, when you look at a globe, it's
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: not the biggest land mass there. Still pretty bloody.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Have you seen like the tin hat theories about that.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: What there's a lot of stuff.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: About Obviously we don't exist that that we're all active
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: this because we would fall off the planet otherwise because
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: we're upside down.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: But it's like a lot of the Northern continent in
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: the maybe the western societies in that whole weird continent
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: over there, because of obviously like.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: The way.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Like the Earth is controversially a sphere when you're try
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: and apply when you're trying and apply that to like
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: a two D plane, the like Canada and Iceland and
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: all that are actually huge, but when the map is
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: kind of flattened out, it shrinks them down. So Australia
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: is actually I think they're saying it's actually like bigger
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: than the United States or something.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Well, there are those you've seen those bits online where
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: they go, this is actually what it looks like when
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: they drag it across and stuff like, we're just about
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: as big as America.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Texas is the biggest state in the US,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: but like we're in Queensland, and Queensland is bigger than Texas.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Like three three point six Texas or something.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we have like w A sitting over there,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: which is like freaking four Queensland, Like it's huge half
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the continent.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: So yeah, sorry, derailed you there.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: No, that's okay. I love I love speaking on those
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: conspiracy theories and all that sort of bullshit. So I'm
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: just thinking, even if Australia is bigger than what we
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: know it to be compared to the planet, if the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: rest of Earth outside of Australia was ocean, most of
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: it would still be ocean. So I guess if they
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: were to have landed in a continent the size of Australia,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: they'd be doing all right.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: But I mean, isn't there a whole section in the
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: middle of Australia that's kind of well, I didn't have
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: it all for humans we could have because it's off
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: and we can't do with a little bit. We're all
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Anakin skywalkers and we hate sand. Yeah, so we don't
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: really populate, you know.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can have different I'm not saying Australia, I
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: mean like Australian size, but we could all be you know,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: classic stargate alternate earths and.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole thing, the Canadian forest.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Just the same environment, you know, one single environment and
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that's it. We don't have arctics. They don't have arctics on.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Their what if there's any wildlife on the mainland.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Like when they go, there's no life forms? Like, but
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: what do you mean by that?
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Because isn't that impossible in terms of the whole reason Like,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: like we're having issues at the moment with the environment
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: is because there aren't enough bees because bees pollinate and
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: they you know, then then they'll drop seeds and animals
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: and stuff like isn't that to be Like yeah, bugs
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: and insects, all that kind of stuff.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Help kind of don't ask questions, propagate, It doesn't.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Matter does questions to do, not want to do against
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: whatever that thing is. I do have one little piece
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: of trivia for you. Now. I want to preface this
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: by saying this is not my trivia. Some may think that,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: you know, I have all these alter accounts and I'm
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: putting things on IMDb. It's not me. Someone else I
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: would never have considered saying this, So you know that
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: whole thing about don't shoot the messenger. This episode is
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: the final episode of Atlantis that references doctor Elizabeth.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Wiir, the final episode that references.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that says her name, because in this episode
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: they mentioned Carter and we are Yeah. So someone did
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: the math and obviously watched the next five episodes and went, well,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: there's no reference of mention of weird in any of
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: those episodes. And this is the final you know in
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: universe mention of doctor.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth wi And what a funny moment for old Love
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: to shout from the Iowa and go, hey, great news,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: are you're gonna get replaced? We're gonna have a new
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: leader here. I'm like, oh boy, Like.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: It's almost like you can't trust the Ioway and anything
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: they say. Definitely like maybe someone in this room used
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: to say how they used to judge Elizabeth Wiir's actions
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: and how she was responsible for.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Even a broken clocks right twice a day.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Not if it's digital. Wait, no, it would be, wouldn't it,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: because it's just flash and twelve.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I just loved the idea of watching it,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: especially if you didn't know that it was going to finish.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: This is going to be the last season. But you're
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: watching it going, oh, okay, yeah, no, see another leader.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Ye cool, cool, yeah sweet.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: But then the idea of then even she being dupes
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, okay, well this was herd. She's coming
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: along Ago. No, Woolsey not up to scratch, And as
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: long as we get him out, I've been guaranteed the
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: head of this mission of.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Wood to see her as heavy just for an episode like, oh,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: I would have taken her like I love miss Robert Pocado,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: but I would have taken her over Woolsey in a heartbeat. No.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I think even when Woolsey was out his most dickish,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: you could tell that he would. He's a situation assessor,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: like he loves I was doing the right thing by
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the book and procedure and all that sort of stuff.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: But it was all it was never really not not
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent at the expense of the moment. Whereas
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like this old love, she was like, but
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: it's procedure, and I'm like, yeah, people going to die
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: under your control.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: But I mean that was Woolsey two or three seasons
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: ago as well.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Now, That's something I felt I never fully like because
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I didn't never know that he was coming to Atlantis
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and if he's going to lead Atlanta's at some stage
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: he's going to soften up. Yeah, he was a dick.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: He was definitely an antagonist, but you could tell that
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: he was doing it because he was just a yes man. Yeah,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: whereas she is absolutely a yes man. But I think
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: she believes in the cause of the yes man. She's
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: been she's been sucking in a bit more.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't mind her in when we first saw her
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: in that Horrible Bug episode from season nine of SG one.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Her and Daniel had that little sort of back and
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: forth that was quite nice. What I did like in
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: this is that Woolsey brought back the klik joke, the
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: dick yeah Richard or do you preferred dick? And then yeah,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: he sort of did that, which apparently was a Robert
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Pocado improv.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Brilliant. He did that the door closes and you can
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: call me yeah dick. Yeah, that was runner. That is
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: episode three hundred and five. Oh, I've been a bit
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: of stop there otherwise Spotify.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: He says, three oh five.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I do we do we dare
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: test it is he like Jason Derulo?
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: How like Jason Derulo says his name at the start
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: of every song, doesn't doesn't people get real far.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to sound more culture than I am
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: by saying that I'm not as well versed in mister
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: three five catalog, but he might maybe maybe are we
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: googling that?
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not? Hey, uh just quickly mentioned before last reference.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Of we are Oh yeah.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: This not the last time you see Anna Galvin.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Who played Conrad Ah.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: You might see that.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Actress Ah show called Stargate and she was from s
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: She won.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: She's done the three the episode where remember she was
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: she was like bludgeoned to death and then cam Mitchell
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: was accused of it and they had the mind Yes, yes,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: that's her top. Yeah, that's all. That would have been
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: the episode that I played Genie from now Under.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: It all comes full playing.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Gene from Dada Under.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Get into the game, Get into Gate, Stargate, send me
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: some maths, bread