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And welcome back to another episode of the Urantia Radio
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Podcast. We are honored to have our
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special guest, our world traveler, Urantia Book reader,
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lifetime student April Helen will be joining us talk about
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her new trip. She's going to be spreading the
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Urantia seed in Europe and also just life experiences.
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It will share as long time Urantia Book readers on this
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episode of the Urantia Radio Podcast.
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Just to introduce everybody, we're talking with April Helen,
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who is a long time your Angel book reader since in utero,
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right? I mean, pretty much your parents
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were reading my. Parents, My parents founded the
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year I was born in 1977 and I was born into the Oklahoma
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society, which was very thriving in the beginning.
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I think one of the first thriving societies back in the
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eight 70s, sixty 70s, yeah, under the under the leadership
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of Miss Berkeley. A lot of you out there know who
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she is. And we just I just came back
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from Oklahoma City because we had Jesus celebration.
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As most of you know, we celebrate in the Iran chibic
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movement Jesus's birthday, his first birthday in August, August
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21st. I was.
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I was. Somber that day, I typically it
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was Friday and I typically on that day, nobody that I know
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knows that with me. So I, I kind of celebrated just
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by thinking about him all day, you know?
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Yeah. And thinking about well.
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What do you think about? I think I think a lot about how
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the world really needs IIA Big believer in Paper 195, where it
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talked about what the what needs to change in Christianity and
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worldview. In many ways, we're very, very,
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very close to achieving some semblance of brotherhood, and
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we're getting there. But unfortunately, we're taking
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the very long path because right now the world is arming for the
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next war. I don't know how closely you
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follow things, but there's a lot of money and hardware and
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technology. And it's weird because, like,
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we're not fighting with China yet.
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They're our adversary. And we spend billions of dollars
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a year on missiles that can blow them up.
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And yet by the same time, there's a 200,000 tourists that
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go there from America every year and go shop at their stores and
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and they have people that come over here.
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And so it's two different worlds.
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You got the world of the people that pretty much we've all
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accepted each other, you know, But yet the leaders are
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insisting on this path that ultimately, like the book says,
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will end in terrible destruction.
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So I think about how we can take what Jesus's message was and get
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that into the hearts of more people, because it really does.
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Great article in the Messenger this week.
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And it was the woman who is, I guess she's the leader of the
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Fellowship. And I'm sorry, I don't know her
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name, but she was answering Byron Bolito's concerns about
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how the Urantia book is not moving.
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I'll interrupt you there. Yeah.
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What? Well, let me finish.
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The thought the. Because the thought is that she
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said, which was I'm getting to is my contemplation with Jesus
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was how can we initiate this change from within?
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Because it's got to change within each of us.
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That's what's going to get us to that, that light and life
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period. It's not going to be through a
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movement. It's not going to be through
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revolution. It's going to be because we all
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get closer to what Jesus was trying to teach us, that's all.
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Yes, yes. Well, I just wanted to clarify
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for our audience that the President of the Fellowship
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right now is Masu Sukham, and who wrote that article was a new
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General Counsel member of the Fellowship, Miss Sheila Neiland
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I believe. And then to your point back when
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you said the revelation points towards destruction, maybe I'm
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misunderstanding you yet. I don't think that I see the
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because of our status because Michael Jesus who was sent here
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to clarify a lot of things, because of Adam and Eve's
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defaults and Kalagasha's rebellion that we are protected
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and we will survive towards the era of life and make it now.
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I have been debated on that before, where our a lot of
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people think that our planet will move towards an apocalyptic
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thing where the Reserve Corps is going to be necessary.
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That is not my personal intuition around the future of
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Urantia, our planet. Me neither.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, what did you mean by that then, when you said destruction?
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Well, the, the quote is in the subject of materialism and the
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age that we're in now where things are developing so
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quickly, our intellectual progress is far ahead of our
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spiritual progress. And when you don't have that
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stabilizing force of, of, of spirit influence, you know, the
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wheels can sometimes go off when they start to spin too fast.
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And that's kind of where society is.
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So the quote is the results of materialism will be the quote is
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more destruction is inevitable if you choose this path of
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extreme materialism. So, you know, in paper 195, it
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goes through the different ideologies that are actually
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present. You've got the scientific view,
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which is that we're nothing more than atoms and Big Bang and all
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that. And you know, we make life what
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we make it. There's no ulterior motive.
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There's they're, they're not even getting close to
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intelligent design. Then you've got the
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totalitarianism, which is rampant.
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Half the world lives under totalitarian rule.
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And then there are different shades of totalitarianism.
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England is slipping into that and, and the Western culture is
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losing the the tenants of Christianity, even though they
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say, you know, there's more people who believe today and all
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that. But if you look deep down, it
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also says that again, the Urantia book says most so-called
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Christians are really secularists.
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They just outwardly they appear to be Christian, but they don't
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really look at the teachings of Jesus.
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It's more like I'll, I'll go to God when I, when I need his
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help, but otherwise I'm just going to, I'll take the wheel
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from here. And, and sort of what I'm saying
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is that the, if there are Reserve Corps of Destiny, if
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there is the Seraphic influence, which I believe there is, it's
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working from within. It's, it's putting these people
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in positions. And, and I've talked to people
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in the Rancho community who think they know who some of
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these people are in, in, in politics and in, in perhaps in
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some position, Dolly Parton could have been reserve Corps of
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Destiny, if you really want to know the truth.
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I mean, I, I don't think I know a more innocent person who had a
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more positive influence through her music than Dolly.
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And she of course, passed away recently.
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So, you know, there's that influence, but the people that
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are most dangerous to me are the the world leaders and people who
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think that they can micro engineer humanity.
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What do you think about that? Yes, for sure.
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And just a little shout out to Miss Dolly.
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Not just her music, yet her love for education and specifically
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books and reading. Was she a ranch book reader by
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any chance? Oh well, that is to be known in
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the future I suppose. She's friends with Willie.
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Maybe he brought the blue book with her, you know?
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Hey, what's that? What you got there, Willie?
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Well, I do look at the curiosity when I think of the era of line
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life and how in the world and I know it will happen.
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Yet it'll be really curious to see how the what what I call the
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war machine, the industrial military complex.
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And because it's such a monetarily successful agency in
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the entire on the entire planet in many nations.
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Like how will that be moved into the era of light and life?
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And the quote in the book that says, paraphrasing here around
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taking having liberty without license.
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When we get to when humans get to the evolutionary stage, the
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maturity that we make decisions based on the consequences to
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serve the greatest good instead of selfish, that is when the
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shift will be taking putting less power into the the war
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machine. And even though our wars are
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less damaging than they were even just 100 years ago, that
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shift is inevitable towards the era of Latin life.
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And what you were just saying about it.
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It takes these individuals that may probably don't know that
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they're in the reserve corps, that they're in these positions
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of power to make these decisions.
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And I've heard several stories over the years of bombs that
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were placed that the person pushing the supposed to push the
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button wouldn't push the button. Yeah.
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And it, it, it saved us in some way.
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You're. Talking about that thing, it was
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in the 70s and there was AI, think a Russian operative, kind
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of like the technician guy. I think so.
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And he was supposed to push that button because there had been an
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early warning trigger and for whatever reason.
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Yeah, I've heard that story a few times.
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He he just didn't do it. He just.
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I can't. Yeah.
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And that would have spurred on, you know, World War 3.
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So. Yeah.
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And and, you know, so that's that's why I don't worry too
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much about what I can't control because I know that.
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Right. I know.
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I was just reading about the faithful of days today and their
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influence. They're called the most highs in
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in the ranch book and also in the Bible.
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I think when the most high are mentioned a lot, but it's the
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Christians think it's about it's God, it's another name for God,
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but we know better. And that's kind of leads me to
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my next sort of thing I want to jump into.
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Are you still going to France to do some uranium I?
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Am in a month, yes. OK, well, when you get there,
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take a look. When's the last time you've been
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to Europe? Oh, it'll be my first on that
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continent. I've been to every other
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continent except that one. So I'm pretty excited to go
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start a spiritual retreat center with another arrangement reader.
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Well, that should be exciting. I we will be happy to hear that.
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So we were talking earlier, April, Helen and I about this.
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So I had recently had a tragedy in my family that involved a
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close relative coming to the end, let's just put it that way.
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And everybody that loses a loved one depends on who it is.
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We all react the way that we react.
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We all process things differently.
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But what you and I were talking about is there's a certain
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security in knowing at least feeling like I know what the
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process is when a person passes away.
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Because the Urantia book is very specific about what actually
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happens, what the transaction is.
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And I've accepted that that transaction of the way that the
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spirit adjuster goes to what is it Serafington to sort of check
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in and then and then the guardian Angel that's assigned
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to you takes possession of I think your soul, right?
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You're the the, the the memories, everything that you
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have about you. It's almost like they transfer
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your entire life onto a chip, you know, and they take it with
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you and then they reunite on resurrection morning on Mansonia
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and and you're greeted by a mansion world teacher And it's a
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beautiful process and it's everything that everybody's ever
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dreamed of. I think you would agree with me
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that it should give anybody great comfort to know that there
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is a real intelligent process behind resurrection.
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I know that and I know that the person that is just recently
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passed away doesn't know that and none of her family knows
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that. And I it's just because of the
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fact that I have that knowledge. I, I feel like it really gives
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me an inner strength and I wish I could convey that strength to
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other people. You know, not that they don't
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think that she's not everybody's praying for and all that stuff.
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And it's, but do you know what I mean?
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It's like knowing that knowing what happens lessens the blow
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is, is that a way? Is that a good way to put it?
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No, for sure. And it's interesting as people,
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loved ones that have transitioned, even though I have
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this information from the Urantia book of I don't even
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call it death anymore because we're in eternal life and we're
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just transitioning to the next level.
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And even still, I go through the animalistic human grief process.
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And in my younger years, I was like, oh, why is grief?
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Why do we have sadness? Why, why, why?
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Because we already know what's going to happen.
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So be joyful and knowing that they're going to be waking up in
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the resurrection hall surrounded by all those who have come
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before us. And then what an adventure that
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we get to go on through the mansion worlds and then hundreds
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of worlds until we get to paradise is perfecting our
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personalities and views. And, and yet I still, when I
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experience these folks who transition specifically on how
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they transition, what transpired in their life?
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Are they making the decision to transition themselves through
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taking their own lives or is it a an accident?
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There are no accidents, but, you know, a car crash or is it
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health? So I think that also informs how
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I deal with the personal transition of that person and
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then my relationship with that person.
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And, and is, is there unresolved?
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It's a little bit, it hits a little harder if there's
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unresolved relationship issues or things that at some point in
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the eternal time and space that we'll have to come back around
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and have a forgiveness conversation or, or whatnot.
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And and then as you and I were talking this morning, this, this
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curiosity around us as Urantia world inhabitants, knowing that
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we're an experimental world. And if our audience doesn't know
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this apparently one out of every 10 worlds, the celestial
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organization allows for a little bit more experimentation.
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And we are one of those worlds. Plus we're a world that we're in
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double what I call defaults. I think you used another word
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for that earlier. And and then So what that has
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done, it has cut us off. They call us, we're in a
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quarantine. So we don't have the information
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except through the revelations that have come, Jesus being one
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of them, the Urantia book and the papers being another.
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That just allows us to have a little bit more information.
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So us as on an experimental world, it's curious to me that I
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think we get a little bit more leeway to when we get to the
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resurrection halls to be apparently we have a choice.
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You get to choose whether you want to continue on the path to
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fuse with God, or you can become as if you never were.
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Yeah, who's going to take that? Because that's kind of like the
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suckers choice, you know? Yeah.
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Well, it's interesting because when I get into debates with
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other Eurenshevik readers, they're they're saying most of
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the people are saying that it's very few people who actually
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make the choice to move forward. I was like, no, I think there's
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way more people that are going to, well, that's just to move
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forward. Though because it.
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Really is. And, and what often happens and
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how many times have you had this conversation where say, so
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you're saying that if Charles Manson believes in Jesus, then
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then he gets to go to heaven, man.
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And if I don't believe in Jesus and I live a good life, I don't
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get to go to heaven, you know? Have you had that conversation
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before? Well, that is actually a whole
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other thing, because I. Think what do you say about it?
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How do you get around that? Well, I I don't think it's I
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think what what I say is we're that's not a planetary, that is
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a universal like that quote that says you have to move through me
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to get to the father. Yeah, it's not the making the
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decision from this world because Jesus is our universal parent.
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We we have many more planets to understand that and then we can
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make the choice and. Oh, wow.
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You are an optimist. You are an optimist.
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Yeah, I. Oh for sure, I.
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Think there's a huge wedding out process for people who don't
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make and there are people like I'll give you a good example.
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We'll just pick out imaginary names for people that we imagine
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exists. OK, let's say, Let's say that
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your name is El Chico. And you and you trend you, you
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work in human trafficking and, and you've killed a dozen people
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and you think that because you're a Catholic and because
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you were baptized that it doesn't God will accept you.
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Do you really think that that a murderous treacherous animal
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would would pass muster, would be allowed in or do you think
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there would be some kind of now people that have had NDE
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experiences, you know, near death experiences, they will
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tell you that a common feature of your answer person told me
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this, I think it was Byron Boletzo's actually.
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He said that they the first thing that happens that they
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remember is they see all the harm that they did to everybody
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else in their life. So imagine the first thing in
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the resurrection is you're sitting in a theater and you're
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watching your life and all the things that you did and who you
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affected in your life. I would, I would if I was a bad
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person and I was forced, I would think that I didn't deserve to
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go to heaven and I would just beg for it forgiveness and I'd
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probably get a crappy ass janitorial job on planet 614 and
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I'd have to learn the whole thing over again.
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I just believe there is some sort of justice that gets meted
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out to the bad people. Well, I completely think that
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there's a vetting and for one, I don't use terms like bad and
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good because their judgment qualities.
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And so to each the individual his own.
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And as we wake up from being a sleeping survivor, because those
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people who caused iniquitous experiences for other people on
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this planet definitely are sleeping survivors, when they
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wake up, they're faced with the ancients of days sitting there
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with the recorded information. They, they, they have to process
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all of that. Yet my point is, because we're
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on an experimental world with no material celestial
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representation to guide us, we are given a little bit more time
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and processing so to see the error of our ways.
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And if those people who have caused so much pain still don't
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see it, then they become as if they never were.
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Yet my point is that we have a little bit more grace in the
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universal justice system. Is.
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Still the justice. System more mercy.
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I think what you're saying is there'll be there'll be an
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abundance of mercy because people will know, just like when
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you meet somebody who's, you know, grows up and they become a
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real jerk and then you find out that, you know, they didn't have
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a good life. You know, you sort of have to
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factor in, you know, in Christ, in the stories that they say to
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us when some of the like the prostitutes, Mary Magdalene
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might even be a good example. Jesus could see in into their
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hearts and he could see through his superior intellect.
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You know, how they got to that place.
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And that's the lesson there is it?
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God does have mercy. That's why they have 3 ancients
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of days and not one, you know, that's why you know, I even
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Jesus said to Calagasia, I can't judge you because you're my kid.
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But maybe, you know, the ancients of days, you know,
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treat you fairly with mercy. See, that's, I think the, the
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reckoning that comes. But you're right.
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I, I think there is a, a great amount of leeway, you know, but
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some of these. Now, if those people were on
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planets, they aren't an experimental world and do have
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social, material, social, physical representation, then I
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don't, you know, it would surprise me if those kind of
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people, depending on the evolution of the evolutionary
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status of the planet during that particular time, it would
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surprise me if they were, you know, allowed to move forward or
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even even create or even allow themselves as a as a human to do
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these. Things you know, there's a
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there's a statement in where during the bestowal of of 7th
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bestowal of Christ, Emmanuel issued the proclamation that any
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rebellion that appears while he's on his assignment would
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meet with immediate extinction. Right.
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Yeah, imagine that. You know, some guy, some Lana
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Dandek over there in System 414 decides that he's going to throw
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a hissy fit. Boom, he's out of there.
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I'm just. Young, good behavior.
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Anyway, well, these are tough times.
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I'm, I'm hopeful that the, the angels of the, the nations and
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the angels of the churches are getting it done.
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I think they are. I, I like you.
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I tend to try to look at the universe as white with black
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spots instead of all black with only a few white spots, but.
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Yeah, that's such a good vision. I am definitely an optimist and
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like you said earlier, it's definitely a comfort, a comfort
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blanket, a comforting experience to have this greater vision of
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eternity and where we're going that I, I want to share.
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And so I'm so glad we're having this conversation is
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particularly towards non Urantia book readers who don't know yet
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and and just you out there listening to this.
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Just Can you imagine this eternal adventure that you have
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the potentiality, the progressive, take your time, be
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patient, understand that this planet, you're I call it we're
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an embryonic stage, this first world of your existence and take
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it to just learn, experience so much.
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Be kind, understand your emotions, understand how you're
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living in a human body, this animalistic thing.
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They as you progress through the levels of universal reality,
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this human form is going to be shifting into a more spiritual
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form. So you so starting on this
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world, just get just get clean and clear and start
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understanding how your relationships and and
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communication and filling your mind with beneficial information
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and then using it to the service of the greater good in your
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family and your community and your nation so that we can all
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bring the air of light in life right now.
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That's my hope. Well, that's true, yeah.
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Take adopt the attitude, you know, once you accept your
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citizenship to the Kingdom, you know, it's like you have your
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passport in your hand and and go about if you can to make a
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difference. But what you're doing, I think
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going and trying to establish a Urantia center.
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Is that what you're No. It's we've definitely Jill and
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I, although we are Urantia big students, we both agree that the
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spiritual center is not just even for spirituality.
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Some of our retreats are just going to be cultural tourism.
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Yet we can also have service projects for people who want to
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come over and be a tourist but also serve.
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Or we're also going to be having inner work retreats for couples,
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for small groups, even for families.
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So it's gonna a lot of ways. It's gonna.
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Look like 19. 65 and you're gonna have flowers in your hair
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and well, this is a hippie. Hippie dippie?
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No, no, I don't like that. Word, Donovan Music and here
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comes the Ma Rishi. Maheshi locations.
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This is definitely modern and we're both grounded in all
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aspects of creativity and intellectualization and living
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the teachings and it's. Well, I'll be curious to see how
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you think it is over there. Do you think maybe we have a
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minute here, but I'll just ask you this question.
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What's up with the Muslim thing? You know, I don't know what to
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make of that. What do you think the Urantia
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viewpoint of Islam should because the Urantia book kind of
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explains it. This is my interpretation and
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the reason I'm having an issue is it because I don't think that
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it's a very tolerant, the teachings don't seem as
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tolerant. I'm sorry, but I just, if you
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had to, you know, compare quality.
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I just think that the teachings of the true teachings of Jesus
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could be greatly beneficial and take some of the edge off and
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maybe improve some of the quality of life for women who
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who live in Islamic countries. Do you think that they're ever
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going to just kind of they seemed like they want to take
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over the world and they want they want to make everybody bow
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And, and I just don't think that that's going to be something
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that appeals to many people in the 21st century to you.
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Well, the first thing when you said Muslim, I thought of
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women's equality and I then I my second thought was the Urantia
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book, which I adore. This concept is you're going to
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find truth anywhere. And because we're an
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evolutionary planet towards the era of light and life.
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And for those of you who don't know, nations are going to be
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we're going to be one world, we're going to be 1 spirituality
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and one family. Not next week, Eventually.
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Well, I think it's thousands of years from now.
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However, if we if we get that concept in our mind now, we can
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start working towards that goal. So when I think about any
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dogmatic institution and then separate it from the word
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religion, that's I think one of my darmic purposes in life right
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now is to expose the true definition of the word religion
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is you and your personal experience with the God moving
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through you. So the whole conversation about
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dogmatic institutionalized quote UN quote religion is this none
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of that is going to be reality thousands of years from now
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because everybody is going to understand that it's we're we're
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all one thing moving forward, one entity as a family and I
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don't see well, what I do see you said something about one
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them wanting to take over the world.
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All people want to take over the world, all cults and cultures
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and. They all we want theirs in the
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world, don't we? I mean, isn't that what we're
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trying to do is take over the world with this new idea?
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I. Think people wanting, taking
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over their inner world as individuals is the most
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important thing and understanding that we're all
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doing it together and we're in this ripple effect of what it
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can be when you get to know yourself as a piece of the
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greater whole. So that the the Muslim,
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Christian, Jewish, like any, any of that conversation is a whole
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nother conversation. That actually is less important
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to me than than getting the point across that we're all in
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this together. And that is the most important
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recognition of moving forward. Yeah, I don't think the AL
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Shabaab would would agree with you on that.
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But this is the thing. Religion is like, you know, a
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eating utensil. OK.
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And if that was the case, Christianity would be a fork and
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Islam would be chopsticks. And at some point, you have to
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say to the person, you know, the fork is a lot better than the
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chopsticks, I guarantee. Just give it a try.
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Let me introduce you to my friend Jesus.
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He's got a whole bunch of stuff to tell you about and, and I
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wish I could have that conversation.
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When you go to Europe, I want you to try to have that
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conversation with somebody just to see what they say to you,
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because that, that's what everybody's fighting about
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domination. Everybody wants to exert their
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ideology on everybody else. And it doesn't matter if you're
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a technocrat or if you're an ideologue or a religious leader,
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that that's, you're right. Everything has to start with
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with the person, not so much the group, the person, the people
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within the group and eventually we will figure it out.
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It's just it's going to be a hell of a ride.
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And I think that's. It is a wonderful adventure,
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isn't it? Yeah, yeah, just.
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See how far we've come, and that is what gives me hell.
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We have come so far and we're totally in an era 100 years
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later after we received the revelation that people are
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waking up to this fact. And even though the global
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leaders may not or the religious leaders may not be holding this,
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I know that there is a deeper river of individuals who are
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waking up to this fact and doing something about it.
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I know it. Yeah, well, I like your
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optimism. Have a good time, be safe.
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And when you come back, you can share with us some of your
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experiences. It's kind of like when you know,
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Jesus got on the boat with the 2 Indian fellows and went and
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visited Rome for the first time. So you're going to, you're going
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to have a hell of a time. Be very interesting.
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Well. It'll be a long, it'll be a long
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trek. This is a long term stay, so I
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know that we'll have more conversations while I'm over
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there. And if I know you probably have
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social media. So if you want to tell people
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how they can keep in touch with you, go ahead and give that
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information out. Yeah, well, April helen.com has
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all of it and I'm on all the socials and I'm getting more and
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more involved in things. And I did start a school S
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kool.com making ripples and it is for all things improving your
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art of living through mind, body and spirit.
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And it's a growing community of UB and non UB students.
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And so we welcome you over there anytime.
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And thanks again to April Helen, we'll see you the next time.
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And when you're back from your next journey here on your Rancho
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Radio podcast, don't forget to stop by the website
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yourranchoradio.org. We'll see you next time.