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#HURDLEMOMENT: Are Your Hormones Out of Whack? An Expert on Hormone Imbalance & What You Need To Know · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: You know, education is power. Knowing your body. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think enough women really understand their cycles and what hormones do.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just about getting older, it's you know, thinking
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  Speaker 1: about who am I when I'm twenty thirty, forty fifty,
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  Speaker 1: Who am I going to be? How am I going
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  Speaker 1: to feel? You know, imbalances that are ruling your life?
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  Speaker 1: You can change that turned around.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily Abodi here. You are listening to another
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  Speaker 2: installment of Hurdle Moment un Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Reconnect with everyone from your favorite athletes to top experts
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  Speaker 2: and industry CEOs about their highest highs, toughest moments, and
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  Speaker 2: everything in between. We all go through hurdles in life,
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  Speaker 2: and my goal through these discussions is to empower you
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  Speaker 2: to better navigate yours and move with intention so that
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  Speaker 2: you can stride towards your own big potential and of
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  Speaker 2: course have some fun along the way. Today I am
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  Speaker 2: excited to bring you my convo with Candice Birch. She
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  Speaker 2: is the founder of a company called Your Hormone Balance,
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  Speaker 2: which essentially helps women understand and advocate for their own
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  Speaker 2: hormonal health. We are chatting all about the top hormone
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  Speaker 2: imbalances that we see in women of all ages and
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  Speaker 2: how those can manifest symptoms in everything from weight loss,
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  Speaker 2: resistance to libido, acne, mood swings, painful periods, bad pms,
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  Speaker 2: so much more. We also talk about pcos as well
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  Speaker 2: as how stress can have a major impact on our
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  Speaker 2: hormones and how we feel in our bodies. There is
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  Speaker 2: so much interesting information in this episode, and if you
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  Speaker 2: like what we are talking about today, I also mentioned
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  Speaker 2: this in the conversation, you should definitely check out the
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  Speaker 2: other chat that I had with doctor Stacy Simms on
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  Speaker 2: our cycles, our bodies, and how to train using your
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  Speaker 2: cycle as an advantage. Having such a blast out here
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  Speaker 2: in Eugene, organ this week at the World Athletic Championships,
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  Speaker 2: it has been a blast watching so many of these
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  Speaker 2: stellar athletes go after their own big potential. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be bringing you my conversation with the lovely
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  Speaker 2: Emma Bates on Monday of next week, one of the
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  Speaker 2: women on the Team USA Marathon squad, who did absolutely
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  Speaker 2: phenomenal on Monday morning, so.
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  Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that.
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  Speaker 2: Make sure you're following along with Hurdle over at Hurdle Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I am over at Emily a body and with that,
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  Speaker 2: let's get to hurdling today. I am sitting down with
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  Speaker 2: Candice Burg. She is the founder of Your Hormone Balance,
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  Speaker 2: which is a business that advocates for let's say, women
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  Speaker 2: to get to the root of hidden imbalances behind their
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  Speaker 2: symptoms and hormone health. How are you doing today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm fine. I was just saying I'm in the UK
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  Speaker 1: and it's uncommonly hot here, so just trying to you know,
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  Speaker 1: come to grips with hot, humid but first world problems.
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  Speaker 2: I know, it blows my mind that air conditioning is
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  Speaker 2: just not a thing there no.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm in a house that was built in eighteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty six at In fact, i'm at the very top
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  Speaker 1: of the house right now, but we have this big
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  Speaker 1: window and so it's swooping air up that these houses
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  Speaker 1: are you know, who knew about air conditioning in those days?
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  Speaker 1: In those days?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm really excited for what we're going to get
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  Speaker 2: into today. I mentioned the words hormone imbalances before. I
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  Speaker 2: have done a couple of episodes touching on hormones and
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  Speaker 2: the female cycle and everything on the show before and
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of interest so I'm amped to have
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  Speaker 2: you here, especially as an educator that has over thirty
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  Speaker 2: years of experience in the field. So why don't you
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  Speaker 2: talk to me a little bit about your own struggle,
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  Speaker 2: because I know that is what ignited your passion to
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  Speaker 2: really dive headfirst into this work.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was. The ignition was the hot flashes
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  Speaker 1: and the mood swings coming like hot flashes every twenty minutes,
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  Speaker 1: mood swings in between. And I was in my forties,
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  Speaker 1: which is you know, perimenopause time, the transition. But I
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  Speaker 1: was a late to pregnancy mom, so I had a
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  Speaker 1: three year old and a six year old. And I've
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  Speaker 1: told this story many times, but I was scaring them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was going into I wasn't. I was
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  Speaker 1: a health educator pulling off a lot, and I was
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  Speaker 1: a journalist in England in those days. We had just
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  Speaker 1: moved back to the States. I would pull all nighters
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  Speaker 1: to meet my deadlines, drink too much coffee, and didn't
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  Speaker 1: even realize really that I was segueing into you know,
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  Speaker 1: those eight to ten years that we call perry nearing
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  Speaker 1: menopause until I started getting these horrible mood swings, and
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  Speaker 1: I just looked at Ryan one day, my little one,
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  Speaker 1: and she was looking at me with tears dwelling in
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  Speaker 1: her eyes, and you know, it was sort of like,
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  Speaker 1: who are you mean, Mommy, I don't recognize you. So
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  Speaker 1: I realized, Okay, got to get a handle on this,
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  Speaker 1: got it. I'm obviously moving into hormonal changes. And that's
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  Speaker 1: when I got really interested and I started reading. First
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  Speaker 1: book I read was What Your Doctor May Not Tell
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  Speaker 1: You About Premenopause by doctor John Lee, who was one
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  Speaker 1: of the gurus in the movement towards natural approaches to
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  Speaker 1: balancing hormone. In fact, he sort of put that he
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  Speaker 1: defined the idea that there can be hormonal imbalance, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that there's such a thing, and that you can have symptoms,
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  Speaker 1: and yet a lot of women and still don't know
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  Speaker 1: what those symptoms are. They still normalize them and incorporate
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  Speaker 1: them into their sense of who they are. You know, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm always tired, I've always had horrible, painful periods. My
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  Speaker 1: mother did too. Or I don't sleep well, or i'm
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  Speaker 1: a bitch on wheels before my period. You know, like
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  Speaker 1: this is the normal thing. And I just realized, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it is normal. It shouldn't be. And I
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  Speaker 1: started learning from the experts in the field at the time.
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  Speaker 1: And this was just around the time of you know,
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  Speaker 1: functional medicine was starting to happen. Studies were being done
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  Speaker 1: that showed hormone replacement therapy was dangerous for women, the
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  Speaker 1: synthetic type and you know, the synthetic progestions and estrogens
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  Speaker 1: that are not really anything like our own natural hormones.
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  Speaker 1: And I just started making big changes and went to
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  Speaker 1: one of the gurus in the hormone testing field, doctor
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  Speaker 1: John Lee, told me to call him up, doctor David's Ava.
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  Speaker 1: He owns ZRT Labs, which is one of the biggest
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  Speaker 1: hormone testing labs in the country. And I just called
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  Speaker 1: him up and said, hey, I'm a health educator and
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm you know, having horrible perimenopause. I want to
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  Speaker 1: learn from you. What can I do? And he said,
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  Speaker 1: come in. I need I need an educator. I need
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  Speaker 1: somebody to write communications and help me review test results.
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  Speaker 1: And so that the rest was history. I just you know, moved.
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  Speaker 1: It was all knowledge is power. So knowledge is power.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. And good on you for like really pursuing and
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  Speaker 2: reaching out to someone that you were so intrigued by
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  Speaker 2: the work that they were doing. I think that oftentimes
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  Speaker 2: we can be hesitant on that, So good on you
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  Speaker 2: for going for that. And then also, I my goodness,
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  Speaker 2: so many people I know when you were saying that
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  Speaker 2: we just normalize discomfort as if it is something that
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  Speaker 2: we should just deal with without getting to the root
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  Speaker 2: cause of that discomfort and why it's occurring, Which is
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  Speaker 2: an eat segue to get into us talking about the
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  Speaker 2: hormone imbalances that we see in women of all ages,
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  Speaker 2: because those hormone hormone imbalances then in turn can manifest
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of gnarly ways. So why don't you
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  Speaker 2: start us off for that conversation by giving us a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of context as to the fact that these
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  Speaker 2: imbalances aren't just happening per your story perimenopause, right, they
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  Speaker 2: can happen at any time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, at all ages and all stages. And I think
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  Speaker 1: when people were first cottoning on to the definite, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the idea of hormone imbalance, people would immediately think menopause. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: this is something that women, older women deal with, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's that's nothing that I have to concern
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  Speaker 1: myself with. But I mean, really hormones. Just to define
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  Speaker 1: a hormone, it's really it's a chemical messenger that's released
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  Speaker 1: from the pituitary, triggered by the pituitary and the brain,
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  Speaker 1: overseen by the hypothalamus. But it's a chemical messenger that
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  Speaker 1: actually reaches target tissues and says, hey, let's make some estrogen,
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  Speaker 1: let's make some progesterone testosterone as needed by the body.
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  Speaker 1: And these chemical messengers go to a what we call
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  Speaker 1: a receptor site. So if you think of the hormone
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  Speaker 1: as the chemical the force that was kind of the
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  Speaker 1: Greek meaning of force in movement. So we've got this
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  Speaker 1: messenger that hits a receptor site in a target tissue
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  Speaker 1: of the body, sends a signal to the brain to
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  Speaker 1: make you know, to flip on. These master switches and
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  Speaker 1: hormones actually they rule. I mean they rule our and
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  Speaker 1: they govern and regulate our mental, emotional, physical state to
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  Speaker 1: a great degree. I mean, if they're out of balance
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  Speaker 1: or you know, not working in synchrisicity, in synchrony with
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  Speaker 1: each other. All these hormones are like the synchronized swimmers.
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  Speaker 1: You're probably not old enough to remember Esther Williams. She
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  Speaker 1: was a famous forties actress that actually she was an
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  Speaker 1: Olympics swimmer who was She won the Olympics and she
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  Speaker 1: was so famous that she became a movie star and
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  Speaker 1: she made all these black and white movies of women
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  Speaker 1: in you know, tulip formation in the in the pool swimming,
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  Speaker 1: making these gorgeous shapes and kaleidoscopic, perfect patterns. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I always think of hormones as the synchronized swimmers. If
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  Speaker 1: one swims to the other end of the pool or
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  Speaker 1: dives down to the bottom, or starts splashing around and
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  Speaker 1: dominating the whole scene, what happens to that synchrony And
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  Speaker 1: that's sort of what hormones are like. And certainly hormones
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  Speaker 1: have We have cycles, and so we have highs and
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  Speaker 1: we have lows of these hormones at various points in
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  Speaker 1: our cycle. So it's not weird to have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: ups and downs and to have certain symptoms. Yeah, right
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  Speaker 1: before your period, your estrogen and progesterone are pretty low,
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  Speaker 1: so you're gonna kind of feel You're gonna feel low,
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  Speaker 1: You're going to be moody. There are going to be
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's PMS like crazy. But if PMS is
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  Speaker 1: crazy and not and not reasonable. You know, we can
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  Speaker 1: expect some symptoms, but it's what becomes extreme or chronic
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  Speaker 1: symptoms that are persistent, that don't go away, that are troublesome,
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  Speaker 1: that then become disorders that can become diseased down the road.
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  Speaker 1: So the key is to get on to understanding what
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  Speaker 1: are the symptoms of hormone imbalance? I mean, is it normal?
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  Speaker 1: I was just talking to a woman the other day
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  Speaker 1: because I do, you know, I do consults on the
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  Speaker 1: phone reviewing people's test results, and she was saying to me,
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  Speaker 1: until I heard you on she heard me on some
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  Speaker 1: podcasts that she said, I thought that my heavy, horrible
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  Speaker 1: periods that I've had all my life were normal, she said.
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  Speaker 1: She you know, the way she put it was, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't realize they weren't normal, And you know, I had
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  Speaker 1: made the state meant that a painful period where you
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  Speaker 1: have cramps and bloating and you're curled up on your
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  Speaker 1: bed and you're down for the count is not normal
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  Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form. So that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: just one little so heavy painful periods, cramping, horrible mood swings,
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  Speaker 1: the kind of PMS I always referred to as pass
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  Speaker 1: me the shotgun variety, you know, that sort of thing
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  Speaker 1: where you're just bouncing off the walls and you can't function,
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  Speaker 1: and some women really get into jeckyl and hide kinds
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  Speaker 1: of symptoms. We're talking about not only bloating, but weight
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  Speaker 1: gain that steadily increases, especially in the hips sized bottom.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about belly fat. We're talking about fatigue, inability
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  Speaker 1: to sleep. There are so many symptoms that if they're
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  Speaker 1: if they're persistent and we can't and no matter what
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  Speaker 1: we do, they come back in they're chronic, then we
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  Speaker 1: know we've got an issue. And there are different types
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  Speaker 1: of imbalances that go with these with these symptoms, but
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of nice to know that there's a reason.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when people test and they can see that,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, my estrogen levels are really high or
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  Speaker 1: they're really low, or my progesterone is tanking, or my
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  Speaker 1: testosterone's too high, and I have these symptoms related to that,
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  Speaker 1: and we can talk about each of those, then it's
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  Speaker 1: sort of like, thank God, there's something you know. It's
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  Speaker 1: almost like people are saying, thank God, there's something wrong
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  Speaker 1: that with my hormones, So I know that there's a
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  Speaker 1: reason behind why I'm feeling this way.
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  Speaker 2: Right right, So let's dive into some of the symptoms
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  Speaker 2: of hormone imbalance.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start there, Okay, So I think the main symptoms
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  Speaker 1: to be aware of are heavy, painful periods. You know
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  Speaker 1: women describe, we know what those are. But it can
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  Speaker 1: also be you're at work and you've just you know,
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  Speaker 1: you've just had a breakthrough bleeding and you have to
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  Speaker 1: go into a meeting and or you know, you're so
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  Speaker 1: you have such terrible cramps you just can't function during
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  Speaker 1: that time. That's number one. Bloating, waking, terrible pms where
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  Speaker 1: you know your moods are out of control, which a
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  Speaker 1: lot of women describe to me as you know, the
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  Speaker 1: people I love most in all the world have to
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  Speaker 1: clear out because I am just they can't live with me,
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  Speaker 1: and feeling really bad about it, you know, having to
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  Speaker 1: apologize to everyone that you love most in all the
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  Speaker 1: world because you can't control your moods. And we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about anything from depression and crying at commercials to rage,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just outright rage and and everything in between.
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  Speaker 1: And then and that that's those kind of symptoms that
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about really are linked with what we call
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  Speaker 1: estrogen dominance, where estrogen is too high relative to progesterone,
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  Speaker 1: which is too low, because these two hormones work together
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  Speaker 1: to balance each other, and they're like seesaw. If one
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  Speaker 1: is especially progesterone. If we don't make progesterone upon ovulation,
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  Speaker 1: then estrogen tends to continue to rise. And estrogen is
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  Speaker 1: that very potent Angelo of life hormone that made us female.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it grew our It's a growth hormone, so
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  Speaker 1: it's a very active growth hormone. It grew our breasts,
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  Speaker 1: our ovaries. All of our female reproductive organs are curves.
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  Speaker 1: It's all estrogen. That estrogen, because it's a growth hormone,
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  Speaker 1: has to be kept in check, right. It has to be.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want anything growing tissue and just growing and
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  Speaker 1: growing growing. It's also the hormone that is growing the
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  Speaker 1: egg and the ovary, and estrogen is thickening the lining,
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  Speaker 1: the uterine lining, the endometrium that we shed as a
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  Speaker 1: period if we don't become pregnant. So if we have
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  Speaker 1: to magestrogen, we're going to have heavy periods because that
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  Speaker 1: lining keeps thickening. It doesn't have the balancing counteractive power
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  Speaker 1: of a progesterone and that gets into a larger conversation
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  Speaker 1: about why does that happen. Well, often it happens when
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  Speaker 1: women don't ovulate. So we're supposed to ovulate every cycle.
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  Speaker 1: Right somewhere in there. We take an average twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: day cycle, we're meant to be ovulating around day fourteen,
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  Speaker 1: day fourteen fifteen. And what happens when we ovulate is that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the egg is released. It goes down the
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  Speaker 1: fallopian tote tube into the friendly looking for the friendly sperm,
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  Speaker 1: and we've got this ruptured follicle that the egg popped
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  Speaker 1: out of, and that ruptured follicle very magically every cycle
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  Speaker 1: transforms itself into what we call the corpus lutium. Hence
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  Speaker 1: the second half of the cycle is called the luteal phase,
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  Speaker 1: and that corpus lutium has so it's transformed from this
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  Speaker 1: empty follicle into a whole new organ that starts making progesterone.
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  Speaker 1: The whole second half of the cycle, it's making progesterone.
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  Speaker 1: Why is it doing that Because it's preparing for a
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  Speaker 1: possible fertilized egg and an implantation of that fertilized egg
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  Speaker 1: and support of the pregnancy. Progesterone is often called the
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  Speaker 1: you know, the pregnancy hormone, because we can't really get
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  Speaker 1: through a healthy pregnancy without enough progesterone, especially in the
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  Speaker 1: first twelve weeks. That first trimester is crucial. Progesterone is
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  Speaker 1: that hormone that kicks in after ovulation and starts rising
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  Speaker 1: to dramatic levels to get the womb ready for a
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  Speaker 1: possible pregnancy. It's kind of feathering the nest, so to speak,
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  Speaker 1: in increasing all the secretions and all that good all
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  Speaker 1: that good juice that will keep that fertilized egg happily
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  Speaker 1: implanted in the womb. If there isn't a fertilized egg,
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  Speaker 1: then it's also progesterone that gives the signal to shed
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  Speaker 1: the lining, the uterine lining, so it has a major
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  Speaker 1: role to play in conception, in carrying a pregnancy to
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  Speaker 1: term in balance the growth activity of estrogen. Progesterone is
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  Speaker 1: also a natural diuretic, so right before ovulation, when progesterone
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  Speaker 1: is low and estrogen is high, we can feel bloated
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  Speaker 1: and moody, et cetera. So that's one of the imbalances.
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  Speaker 1: It's really people younger people who are needing to know
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  Speaker 1: there are their bodies ready for conception? Am I? You know?
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  Speaker 1: Am I able to carry a pregnancy to term? Where
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  Speaker 1: are my hormones? They might want to test those estrogen
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  Speaker 1: progesterone levels in concert with testosterone and stress hormone levels
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  Speaker 1: as well. But to go back just for a minute,
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  Speaker 1: the major imbalance that is associated with estrogen and progesterone
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  Speaker 1: being out of whack is estrogen dominance low progesterone, and
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  Speaker 1: we can see the ratio between those when we test.
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  Speaker 1: We can see those levels, and the ratio, you know,
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  Speaker 1: is how to what extent are they out of proportion?
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  Speaker 1: And you know the other thing that goes with that
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  Speaker 1: is bad pms or you know, extreme pms and and
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  Speaker 1: inability to sleep soundly because progesterone has natural calming properties
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  Speaker 1: and sleep promoting properties. So there's a whole, well, there's
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  Speaker 1: a whole welter of unwanted symptoms that women can experience
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  Speaker 1: just because those two master female hormones are out of whack.
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  Speaker 1: And that can be extremely common in younger women who
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  Speaker 1: are not ovulating for whatever reason. Because I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned it, but progesterone is only made upon ovulation,
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  Speaker 1: so to get that balancing effect. You got to ovulate. Now,
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  Speaker 1: who isn't ovulating? Women that are under too much stress,
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  Speaker 1: that are overtraining, that are under eating, that are not
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  Speaker 1: getting enough fat and good proteins in their diet, that
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  Speaker 1: are exposed to chemicals and the environ. I meant there
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• 22:01
  Speaker 2: of a hormone imbalance.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, you know what I'm talking about right now.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: When estrogen and progesterone are not in balance and are
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: out of whack, testosterone hormones can sort of dominate because
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: all of these hormones balance each other. They interact and
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: work together to create synchrony. As I was describing the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: synchronized swimmers, So if estrogen and progesterone are out of balance,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: we might see testosterone being high. Now I should go
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: back a bit. Women that are on birth control who
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: are not ovulating are going to be low in estrogen, progesterone,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and testosterone. But women who are eating a lot of carbs.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Sometimes that's the case with overtraining, because there's a lot
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: of car beating that goes on before before a big event,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: but it has to be balanced with proteins, et cetera.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Because people who have too much, you know, too much carb,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: too much sweet, too many sweets in their diet, all
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: of that tend to have a higher testosterone level because
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you know, too much carbs that break down into simple
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: sugars turn turn on the insulin response. Insulin actually causes
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the ovaries to churn out excess androgens testosterone in DHA.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: So part of the problem can be a history of
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: junk food, diet diets or too many carbs, and part
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: of it can be overtraining to the point where we're
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: building so much you know, testosterone is great for building
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: lean muscle. It's anabolic. Obviously, it's important for lean muscle development,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: for structure, for strength, for stamina, for all those things
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: women need to be, women athletes need, and women in
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: general for our drive, competitive drive, sex drive, even our
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: cognition and our mental health, our sharpness, our ability to
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: process information and concentrate and focus, and then of course
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: you know, our libido. All of these things hinge on
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: testosterone being at a healthy level bone and bone and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: muscle strength. But if testosterone gets too high, because as
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I said, we're maybe overdoing it with strength training and
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: not ovulating, and as it happens, a lot of women
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: who are you know, who are athletes. In fact, I
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: was talking to Gabby Reese on her podcast and she
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: was saying when she was in the thick of training
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and being a professional athlete, at least fifty percent of
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the women she of her colleagues or her fellow competitors
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: were not getting their periods. And we can assume, you know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: that's a common issue when you know, when we have
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: those extremes. So what happens is you're not getting the ovulation,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the regular cycles, the nice balance estrogen and progesterone. You're
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: getting too much testosterone and that is fueling the growth
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: of polycystic ovary. So instead of estrogen and progesterone creating
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: a nice little one egg and that ovary and that follicle,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: we've got testosterone creating lots of lots of cysts in
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the follicles instead of one egg, and all of those
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: cysts are putting out more testosterone. So we're getting into
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: a situation where where testosterone is dominating, We're not ovulating properly,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: We're creating an excess of testosterone, so that we are
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: now becoming edgy, irritable. You know, this is where we
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: see acne and skin breakouts. We may see that kind
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: of PMS. It is, you know, includes rage and also aggressive,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: you know, just feeling aggressive, and there's I'm not saying
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: there's in order, but high to stosterone is also very
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: much linked with infertility because of the reasons I'm describing,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you know, the lows and estrogen and progesterone and the
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: inability to create a healthy egg and healthy ovulation.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: When someone's struggling with PCOS, what options do they have.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I think for anyone that has PCOS, excess facial
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: hair and body hair. I forgot to mention that oily skin, acne,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: et cetera. You know, you know those symptoms. If you
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: have those symptoms and you also feel just maybe you're
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: over sexed, or you're over you're over anxious, or you're
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: over aggressive, or any of those things that you're not
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: feeling comfortable in any way with yourself, it's a good
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: idea to test so that you can find out how
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: you know what is to what extent are your testosterone
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: levels too high and are your estrogen and progesterone levels
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: too low? And then you can take steps to create
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: a healthier, healthier scenario for ovulation. Change your diet, get
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: your estrogen and progesterone levels balanced, and sometimes in younger
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: women that can mean using an herb called vitex at
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Chase Sperry, which helps the ovaries produce more progesterone. Sometimes
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that will require you know, even replenishing with a bit
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: of progesterone cream, a natural progesterone. I'm talking about replenishment,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: but they're also you know, lifestyle changes that have to
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: be made where we might have to dial back on
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: over exercising, switch the diet into more healthy carbs, multi
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: grain carbs and nutrients that are nutrient dense, proteins and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: good fats. A lot of women aren't eating enough, you know.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: That can be a real problem too, so that the
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: building blocks of hormones and ovulation are are not getting
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the you know, those nutrients aren't getting into the body.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I've been. There's there's a great I don't know. She's
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: somebody you should interview, Elisive Vitty. She's a brilliant woman
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: who had horrible PCOS. So for anyone who listening who
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: has PCOS, suspects they have it and may have some
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: of the health behaviors that I'm talking about where the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: diet has been really carb and low in protein and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: good fats, and maybe too much exercise, overtraining, et cetera.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Go to Elyssive Vitty's website. Because she had horrible PCOS
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: was told by every doctor she saw that there was
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: no cure. Usually women are put on met Foreman because
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: PCOS is related to insulin resistance having to do with
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: that carb diet that I'm talking about over years and
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: a situation where insulin starts to become high and stays high,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: so those androgens keep getting churning, churned out, and we
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: get the belly fat and the weight gain around the waist,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: and you know, all of those issues associated with insulin resistance,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: which is really pre diabetics. So a lot of PCOS
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: sufferers are put on diabetic medicines when you know, or
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: they're put on spiral and a lactone to control acne
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: or whatever the symptoms are. But that's not the cure.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: The cure is rebalancing the hormones, and that means, you know, holistically,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: looking at this whole picture that I'm doing my best
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to describe here.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about one other thing that can play a
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: part in this, and that is birth control.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: You know, I had to think long and hard about
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: this when I make statements that can be influencing people.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I was one of the first in line back in
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the sixties, and that tells you how old I am.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: But I already told you how old I am. But
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I you know, I was first in line to get
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the birth control pill and wanted to live with my boyfriend,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: didn't want to get pregnant. All those things that liberated
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: us in the sixties. It was a wonderful thing. But
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I remember the pill was really back then, and I
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: got horrible acne. I still have the scars from that,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: and I remember just crying all the time. I couldn't
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: stop crying. Everything made me cry. It was hilarious. I'm
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: not the type of person to cry. So now we
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: have a pill that is not as potent as although
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: some are. Some women are still on really high potency pills.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: But the point is they are made of synthetic hormones
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: which shut down ovulation. So if we go back to
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: what I've just been saying about the importance of ovulation,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: where you know, these normal hormones are produced, and we're
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: shutting down a woman's normal cycle, suppressing it. And some
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: women I talk to have been on birth control. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: it's more than just some women. I'd say a majority
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: of younger women I've talked to have been on birth
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: control for five to fifteen years. I've even talked to
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: women in their forties and late forties who are still
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: on birth control because they're afraid they're going to get
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: acne if they go off, or they're afraid that some
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: of their symptoms are going to come back. But all
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: that birth control is really doing is putting a boatload
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: of synthetic hormones which the body does not recognize. You know,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: it just sort of shuts down normal ovulation and it
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: can take a long time for ovulation to come back.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: And that's a real you know, that's an issue for
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: women in their thirties who are now thinking about getting
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: pregnant or having a family. It can be a lot
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: of women get off the pill and they decide that
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: they're going to get pregnant, and then they find they
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: can't get their period back. It takes it can take
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: a long time. Some women are fine, but other women
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: can't get their period back for months, six months or so,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: can't have trouble getting pregnant after many, many years on
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: the pill. And most women I talk to say they
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: don't feel right being on the pill this long, but
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: that's kind of the default whenever they talk to it.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: You know, an old school doctor who and they say, well,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I've got mood swings, and I've got belly fat, and
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: i can't sleep, and my periods are irregular and they're heavy,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and you know, then it's always well, let's just go
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: back on the pill, or let's keep you on the pill,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: And actually it's just adding to you know overall hormonal imbalance,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: but we can wake up our home, We can wake
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: up our ovaries and give them tender, loving care. Once
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: we get off the pill and start to practice hormone balancing,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: so that real hormone balance means that you're not going
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: to have that's the best way to handle those symptoms.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Another great again, I would say, read a list of
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Viddi's book People, Woman Code, And another great one is
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Beyond the Pill by doctor Jolene Brighton, who talks to
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: who tells women throughout the book how to get off
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the pill healthily, happily and how to reconfigure your hormone
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: levels and rebalance. I just started saying I didn't want
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to I didn't want to put down the pill because
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I understand how important it is to have family planning
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: and to be able to have that control. And I
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: certainly was one of the early users. But now we
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: have great trackers, we have fertility trackers, and we can
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: you know, if you're technologically adept, you can use those
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: to ninety seven ninety eight percent accuracy. So that's a
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: way better choice than messing with your hormones internally for
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: years and years and.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Years for years and years and years. And then the
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: last thing that I want to talk about with you
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: today is really the challenges that come hand in hand
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: with our everyday world. I mean, we are without a
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: doubt more stressed, more anxious than ever, and as we know,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: these feelings can really impact our hormones and our bodies
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and our gut. I mean, the list goes on.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: So anything that we should keep in.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Mind when it comes to our hormones and our regular
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: levels of stress, well.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I think you know there's we have also When we
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: test in saliva, we test not only estrogen, progesterone testosterone DHA,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the precursor of testosterone, but also cortisol, the stress hormone,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and we test that four times over the course of
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: one day. Cortisols made by the adrenals. So you know,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: the adrenals would make adrenaline if you're running from a
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: forest fire, but they make cortisol on a twenty four
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: to seven basis, And it's cortisol that powers us through
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: our day. It's cortisol that puts out the burst of
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: energy that you need when you're working out. It's cortisol
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: that fights, you know, provides our immune response, protects our
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: immune reserves, regulates our sleep wake cycle, and very importantly
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: regulates our blood sugar and insulin balance. So the adrenals
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: they can get really taxed if we in our stress
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: crazy busy lives aren't taking heed of the fact that
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: they need extra tender, loving care because they're these tiny
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: little glands that sit on top of the kidneys and
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: they regulate all of these important jobs that I'm just
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: talking about. So if we burn the candle at both ends,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: if we you know, we if we don't get enough sleep,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: if we're on our computer late at night, which disrupts
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: melatonin production and jack scept cortisol, if we exercise late
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: at night, if we're not getting enough of the good nutrients,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and if we're kind of courting stress, you know, not
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: learning to take it in stride, but rather allowing it
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: to take center stage in our lives. There are there
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: is that attitude where you know, I'll sleep when I die.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I'm busy now, so I'm just going to keep being busy.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And I remember before COVID people would describe themselves as
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: being crazy busy. I don't find that that's not an
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: admirable place to be. And what happens with the adrenals,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: especially if you're an athletic person. You know, you you
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: start to burn through the adrenals and they start to
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: become fatigued and underperforming. And that's when you find that
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: you're exhausted after a workout, that you're not sleeping well,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: that you're not you know, you're not performing the way
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: you want to mentally, physically or emotionally. So I think,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: you know, stress comes in many stress is really it's
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: good stress. Also stress can be babies, having getting married,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: traveling internationally. You know, good stress, bad stress. It doesn't matter.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: The internal external stimuli upon the adrenals and upon the
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: body are the same. We just have to take care
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: to you know, to keep that in balance. And you know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: like certain parts of the cycle, in your follicular phase
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: you want to do high intensity. In your ovulatory phase
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: you want to do high intensity and cardio. But in
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the luteal phase and in the menstrual phase, you want
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: to dial back and do you know, have the evening
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: stroll or the yoga and the exercises that release tension
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: from the body. So it you know, it's getting it's
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: learning that balance. How to balance the way we eat
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the way we sleep, the way we exercise, and I
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: think doing that in sync with our cycles has become
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: a really important conversation cycle sinking. You know what to eat,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: when to exercise, and that's where I'd say again, women
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: should look into that through the illiciit bitty book. In
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: the flow, we even add your hormone balance my daughter
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Jess as kind of our cycle sinking expert. So if
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: any of your listeners want to test their hormones, and
• 37:37
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• 37:50
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• 37:53
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• 37:56
  Speaker 1: You know, she's more of an expert on it. But
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: it's really crucial making hormon owns a family business. Yeah,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: aslutely we love it.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: And I also talk on the show with doctor Stacy
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Simms about cycle sinking, so if anybody wants to know
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: more about that, as well as a lot of the
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: goodness that Candace has talked about in today's episode, I
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: will make sure to throw all of these links in
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: the show notes. Candice, this was so helpful, so many
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: good takeaways here. How do the hurdlers keep up with you?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: How do they follow along with you? Give us the details.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Well, we're at your Hormone Balance dot com. We have
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: a really active Instagram account. My daughters are posting on
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: it every single day and it's kind of fun. We're
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: trying to make it fun. So there's tons of information
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: there and so that's at your Hormone Balance and yeah,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: it's just all that information is there online too. We
• 38:52
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• 38:54
  Speaker 1: you can sign up for, so there's a ton of information.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I think people are grateful for it because, you know,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: edge cation is power. Knowing your body. I don't think
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: enough women really understand their cycles and what hormones do.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: It's not just about getting older, it's you know, thinking
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: about who am I when I'm twenty thirty, forty fifty,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Who am I going to be? How am I going
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: to feel? And how do I want to age gracefully
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and well and have the power and the stamina to
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: live the life I want to live. We can do this,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: We can feel so much better then, you know, I
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: think people forget how much better they could feel, or
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: how much better they used to feel. So it you know,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: don't don't allow yourself to be mired in you know,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: imbalances that are ruling your life. You can you can
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: change that turned around.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: You can change that and turn it around. I am
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast. Another Hurdle conquered.
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  Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time,