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Bye Week Recharge · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast, along with my
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  partner Brian Segal. I'm Curtis Wilson and we're back
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  Brian on a Wednesday night. Here we are back on a Wednesday
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  Curtis. Get some Gatorade, a little bit
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  of food in him. Feel a little more up to speed
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  tonight. We're getting there.
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  I'm alive. I'm not dead.
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  Not dead. It's 24 hours.
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  I mean, it was, it was A brutal day yesterday.
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  But obviously, we push through it.
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  I push through it. Obviously, you push through it.
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  Brian last night, talk about that in just a second, but
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  And Brian, before we get into a lot of the stuff tonight, we're
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  going to look at the Miami recap.
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  We're going to do a little fun, what if game after the break.
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  But we're going to roll it off tonight.
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  You The opportunity, it was streamed live last night.
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  And for those who missed it, we're going to show it again
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  right here. Brian sat down with kokis
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  defensive tackle, Josh, fuga and it a little one-on-one
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  interview. So here, is that interview guys
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  out there lister's we got a big night tonight.
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  We've got the one and only Josh fuga coming on with us tonight.
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  The 6230 to pound defensive tackle wearing the number 6 and
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  hailing from Freedom, High School, in Woodbridge Virginia.
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  And I'm going to go ahead and bring him on right now.
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  Josh, how you doing tonight doing good, I'm doing real good
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  doing real good. We really appreciate you having
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  coming on tonight with us and and speaking to the listeners we
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  got some guys listing live here. So but we're going to have a few
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  questions for you and again, appreciate you jumping on
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  tonight, of course, I appreciate HIV.
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  So I just wanted to start off with this.
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  You've had some kind of great games your career already at
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  Virginia Tech so far, but you seem to Don't be hitting your
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  stride this year. Especially three great
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  performances from you in a row. The last three weeks.
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  Do you feel like, everything the coaches are asking of you at
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  your position, is started to click for you?
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  Or is there something else contributing to that success?
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  All I believe is, is more me buying in and embracing my role
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  as a player on the team, knowing my strengths and my weaknesses.
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  So I think me actually honing in on my skill sets and actually
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  believe them. Like okay, this is what I'm good
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  at. So I'm going to go ahead and put
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  down display for everybody. Awesome, awesome.
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  I love to hear that and I know I think you had talked about
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  earlier in one other spot. I saw, were you talking about
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  buying in and just the difference that kind of the
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  culture that has been changed, you know, kind of since you've
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  been there. So let's talk about that a
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  little bit. How did you approach?
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  That regime change that happened at the end of last season and
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  has there been a part of that change that has had an impact on
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  your preparation or your On the field.
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  The most I really embrace the change by.
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  I knew how to change. What's going to be the severity
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  of the change. But what I did is like I knew I
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  wasn't going to leave or not like that.
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  I had no intentions of leaving first and foremost.
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  So I knew that if I want to become who I am right now, I got
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  to work harder, so there's more weight room or more film study
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  all that. And the change that actually
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  happened this year. I think he's actually pretty
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  good because one thing that this coaching staff bought into their
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  mindset was mainly competing and everything we do on and off the
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  field. And I believe that what that
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  change in that mindset that they instilled in US was pretty
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  pretty good. We really needed that as a team,
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  it may not be showing it right now but we are really competed
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  on and off the field because what we do off the field
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  correlation Do on the fields. Yeah it sounds like you.
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  As soon as you saw that coming you kind of double down on your
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  approach and I do your preparation and stuff like that.
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  Yes, sir. Awesome awesome.
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  And, you know, speaking of that you kind of you've been a
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  rotational or starting player for the Hokies for three years.
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  Now, what's been the biggest difference for you?
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  From a schematic perspective? In coach Brian?
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  Coach Marv system compared to your first two seasons in Justin
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  Hamilton's defense. I think the schematically
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  fogging is allowing allowing the, the front for didn't
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  actually eat more like they're good.
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  They're going to put us in position to make plays, okay?
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  So I say they're going to do their best to make sure that
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  we're doing that. We are here to for this specific
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  play and it's up to us to actually execute that play and
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  make the plays when it comes to us you know.
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  You got to stay in the framework and not do too much and I
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  believe that we're doing that and I believe that's the whole
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  the change of everything from the other staff to this stuff.
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  Okay. So a little bit more Controlled
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  Chaos. Yeah.
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  Okay. Okay.
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  I like that. I like that.
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  And kind of speaking of that I know we talked a little bit off
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  are before you jumped on here. I know we're still early in the
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  bye week but what has been the emphasis from coach Pride this
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  week so far as it. Been more NC State prep type
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  stuff. Since you've got the Thursday
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  night or early coming next week, or is it been more about the
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  scheme in the technique and trying to polish some things
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  from the first half of the season?
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  I believe like his message, from what I've what I've gotten is
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  what can you do individually? To better this team as an old,
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  like I said, in other interviews is that even though what we're
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  going through, may not be all rainbows and sunshine this week,
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  could have been a better time for us to have a Bible.
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  Gives us opportunity to really reflect on what's going on as a
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  team as a program and also as individually as a player.
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  So I think it's a perfect time for about So we can really
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  actually take strives and for the next half of the season.
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  Yeah. It's it does seem like it's
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  coming at a good time. I think, you know, you guys have
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  seen had some good games, had some areas where you feel like
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  you could, you know, have improved trying to put the whole
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  picture together. I know price talked a lot about
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  complementary football, kind of everybody.
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  Rowing in the same direction at the same time, right?
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  And I, you know, as you said I think it's a good time for a bye
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  week. You can start maybe putting some
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  of those pieces together, for sure.
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  Yeah, let me ask this. So you came in Virginia Tech
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  already kind of One level size at 61 300.
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  What? Components of the strength and
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  conditioning program have helped the most in your progression on
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  the field since you've been in Blacksburg I'll say the the
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  conditioner. Yeah so when I first came here
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  2019 I'll never forget I graduated high school, June 9th
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  of that year and then June 10 was already like Like my report
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  day? No, I actually graduated June,
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  June 1st and my report day was June 10 so quick turn around.
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  Turn around, well, coming in. I remember five o'clock in the
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  morning, we had to put our cleats on and get on the
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  Baseline that we had to run. This thing called 300-yard,
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  Shadows, that steady back, 50 back and 50 back for the whole
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  week straight. I didn't make not one of my
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  times so I'm almost who it is. Then after, you know, gassed
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  out. It's hard to make my times and
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  it's embarrassing. Like to be honest embarrassing
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  like you got the class that came in with you like looking at you
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  like you're like he's not ready and I kid you not after that.
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  Very first week God did the whole shuttles till that point I
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  never miss a time I'm either one of the top guys finishing and
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  all that. So it's really me embracing
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  that. Okay, this is what it is to take
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  to play at this level. I got that be able to Be playing
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  50 plays or whatever it is. I got to be strong.
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  So it's just me buying in and the conditioning and all the
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  strength that that, that, that they implemented.
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  Yeah, now I can definitely commiserate with that a little
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  bit. I played III back in the day and
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  I remember getting there. And, you know, the first thing
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  they're doing is the conditioning test.
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  And I was like, oh, okay, this is this different level of
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  conditioning, than what we were doing, you know, back in high
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  school and the first, first week was rough.
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  I definitely missed about two or three the times that first week.
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  You know what? You got to get your feet under
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  your little bit. You're like, alright Ike, if you
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  push through a little More you start just getting under the
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  time and then you can start building off that for sure.
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  Yeah, yeah. All right, so let me ask this
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  because little bit back on the on the strength and conditioning
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  stuff. Since you've been in Blacksburg
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  anytime we see those offseason workout videos.
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  I tell my buddy Curtis does the show with me?
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  And I've said it on here before you've got the best Squad face
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  on the team by far. It's not even close man.
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  But let me ask the question from this perspective does make him
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  Squat Friday, almost like these big weekly event helped the team
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  push through leg day each week because I know that's always
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  like the the toughest day to get through.
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  Yeah, that doesn't know about it is its opposite day to get
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  through. But I think actually actually
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  benefits us because we're all were all there once a week and
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  we're all there, watch it, one guy at a time so push the weight
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  push his Max. And that just that bills that
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  Team chemistry that team camaraderie that look I got your
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  back. If you do this for one time, you
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  know. And and it gives that person
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  that confidence whoever's under that squat bar below.
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  Okay, everybody watching me. I'm not gonna miss low but I
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  know that they got me and I'm gonna do my best to get this one
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  rep. So if it helps build that team,
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  camaraderie in that team chemistry for real, I will throw
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  this on here boy, Vic, Virginia, Tech Les.
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  He said, tell my guy figure, he's got got a fan and Dwight
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  Vic, and freedom is serious this year.
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  Just a, yes, sir, I know y'all. So, let's ask this, you've been
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  playing under JC price. Now, for two seasons, we're
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  seeing his impact a lot more on the line this year.
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  Not just from, you know, the director of the wreck stuff with
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  the coaching, but a lot of the culture type stuff.
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  Lunch pail has bagged all collar.
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  What does it mean to you to play for a coach to kind of help
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  build the foundation and the culture?
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  The program that you're now part of the coast pies and he's a God
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  that embodies our what Virginia Tech is.
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  So this is actually like his first time like took the two
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  years he been here. Is his first time actually
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  gained control of them. All four guys, man, this is so
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  like last year we had built a link, so we would all be under
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  him and then close power coach, the ends.
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  But this is his first time I actually get in the hole.
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  Whole deal on as a whole. And I'm telling you, like, he
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  what he teaches at how he coaches, it's a different style
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  of coaching I've ever seen. He's actually passionate, he's
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  very passionate. What he does the dog mentality
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  dead, the front for got to have every game, no matter what it
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  is, like, you gonna, you gotta play like this in order to be
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  successful, and he does a very great job, trying to instill
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  that that mindset. That Now, we got to have every
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  game and everything that we do in life just outside of football
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  and I'm sorry plan to close price is actually a blessing for
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  me. That's also and we saw it.
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  I mean, anytime he's in front of the camera.
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  Anytime he's on the bike. I mean, you can't, you feel it?
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  And we saw when we, I mean me and Curtis are fans from way,
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  back in the in the mid-90s when Coach Price was still was still
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  a Virginia Tech as a player. So we kind of go back that far
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  and we cut remember that mentality that he had as a
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  player and it's awesome to hear that he's bringing that to
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  y'all's meeting room deals position Roop and you know
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  seeing every time he gets in front of the mic especially you
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  know, after UVA last year. That was an emotional moment for
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  him, man. So it's awesome that he brings
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  that same energy to practice to meetings and stuff like that.
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  Yeah, every day every day. Awesome.
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  Well, you know, we know, Great of an environment Lane stadium,
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  is to experience a college football game.
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  And but I'm curious from your perspective, what are some other
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  stadiums that you played at during your time with the Hokies
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  that have also kind of stood out for you as having that type of
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  electric atmosphere? I'll say for me personally, was
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  West Virginia last year. It was electrifying, you really
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  couldn't hear nothing, as soon as you got out.
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  It was a pretty cool environment.
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  Moment. But I will say Lane, stadium is
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  top, top notch, no, nothing being Stadium, wasn't filled.
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  So, but for me personally, I'll say West Virginia.
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  Last year was pretty all rocking.
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  Was it kind of the combination of the the Rivalry, the the fans
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  just kind of little bit of everything that was contributing
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  to that. Oh yeah, I say likes to pull it
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  pulling up. Shut up to the stadium and sell
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  like, you can see like you feel that the whyville And everything
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  that this game that game meant like we're not just trying to
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  win the game like we're trying to compete for trophies and
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  trophy game. Yeah, like as soon as you get to
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  the stadium, you'll feel that atmosphere That's awesome.
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  Yeah that that's one of the stadiums that I would like to
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  check out. I've not been there.
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  You know when when I was coming to games early earlier in my
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  life, when I was a college student that was when West
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  Virginia was known for some of that dirty stuff that people
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  were talking about. Like, oh yeah, throw in
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  batteries and you know, all that stuff at game.
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  So you know some people tried to as far as visiting fans, tried
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  to stay away from that atmosphere but you know I've
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  heard. Late, it's a lot more more tame,
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  but still still pretty raucous. In terms of the noise, they make
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  in the passion that they bring to the stadium.
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  So, let's ask this, this little more fun question for you in the
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  deal. I room.
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  You got a lot of different personalities, a lot of back
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  different backgrounds. What's the big kind of off the
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  clock, like competition or thing that you guys do, kind of as a
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  group as a video games, is it pick up Hoops?
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  You know, what kind of things do?
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  Y'all do off the clock? Off the clock, I will, I would
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  say that it is mainly basketball, I pick up so like
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  coach prize will have, was sometime come to his house, but
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  just grub and just fellowship and I say, he has a basketball
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  hoop and I'll tell you as soon as you get there, somebody got a
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  basketball. And where are you trying to play
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  21 or King of the course? Something?
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  Like weird. It doesn't matter because
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  possibly like, there's no Duncan.
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  But, you know, some guys will try to dunk here.
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  How about we try to compete regardless?
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  So I say like basketball, something like that.
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  Okay, he's right. He's trying to protect his hoop,
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  right? You don't want job, bringing the
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  hotel right now. You're not.
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  He doesn't get that. He stays out the way where
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  everybody else is out there playing playing with the
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  basketball, or some guys will be playing pool or something like
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  that. Oh nice.
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  Okay, okay, good stuff. Man, I figured is Hoops.
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  Usually everybody that comes in here, it's always Hoops for so,
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  you know, 21 was are Game back in the day.
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  So, I'm glad that that's carrying it through for some of
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  the d-line group. Now, to, all right?
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  So last question before I let you go tonight.
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  Yeah, we always ask this when we have players on former players?
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  What's the go to Food Spot for you?
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  In Blacksburg? Go to and I don't have anything.
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  I would say, I'll say Jose. Okay, who's the breakfast diner?
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  Yeah, yeah. That that little that little
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  spot you know, the little coffee shop I like to refer to as but
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  that and got some good food over there.
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  Yeah they do have some good food.
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  You're the first person I think that said Jose in a while so I
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  think it's underrated to to a point.
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  But I mean anybody anybody that's been there especially
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  certain times a day They know what's up?
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  No doubt. Well I appreciate you jumping on
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  with me tonight. Sorry you didn't get to meet my
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  partner in crime there. Curtis feeling under the weather
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  but we appreciate the time and if there's anything you want to
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  plug real quick, go ahead. Appreciate everybody tuning in
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  and be ready for us next week. Thursday ESPN Prime sign against
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  NC State. Go Hoagies.
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  There we go. And that's Josh fuga.
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  Appreciate your time. You have a good night.
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  Appreciate you, too. We are now back and it
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  automatically, after that interview it makes me want to we
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  have to invite you as fuga back next season for interview with
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  some point time since I didn't get a chance to miss him and
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  then discuss, how many the question?
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  Now the question that we had them on once with Joe's Diner is
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  not only okay what's his go to but how many because obviously
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  you know Joe's Diner, huge breakfast all that good stuff
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  like would it be like you know You know, three small, Joe's
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  three. Big Joe's mean how much is job
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  with? What's the go to order?
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  Let's go to water and how much it's like the new Taco Bell.
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  It's 28 dollar challenge 2828, Taco Bell and we were like, oh
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  my God, you're inside, you're going for a family of four, what
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  are you doing? What are you doing?
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  But anyway, it was great. That he came on last night.
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  We run also view to get a chance to interview him.
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  I'm surprised you didn't get more technical about what would
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  be happening if you were God? He was d-tackle, haha, maybe
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  next time, but maybe next time, maybe they're also having Josh
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  own Josh. Again we appreciate you coming
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  on last night if you're listening tonight.
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  All right. Well let's flip it, Brian.
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  Let's get into this Miami recap and you know, Hokies fall 2014
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  and I'm going to start right off with the offense because
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  probably after playing their best game of the year against
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  Pitt, excluding really much. Each the laughs has of the
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  fourth quarter. It was literally the worst game
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  we've seen from this offense for 3/4 now.
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  I mean, the first three quarters.
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  I mean, I'm not even gonna take the first series that with the
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  big run by Malachi to open it in the big pass by Daquan that he
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  fumbled and games territory. But before the fourth quarter
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  after that fumble, they crossed the Midfield one time and I
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  didn't get to see. I didn't see any of the game
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  except the condensed version, which I watched three times.
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  Condensed versions are great, but they are what they are, but
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  I'm following them, my phone at baseball.
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  The second half, I listen to Bill, and Michael on the radio,
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  it's awesome to hear them. Just to say that whether it's a
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  losing effort or not. But Brian, you did get to see
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  the games. Let's talk about the play calls
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  and what's going on there was it play calls or even bad
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  situation? What was the, what was the
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  issue? It kind of felt like, you know,
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  we had the big miscue in the first drive after a couple pump,
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  promising plays. As you know, we saw a couple new
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  things out the gate, you know, we had an outside Zone on that
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  run by Malachi, you know, then we got Daquan involved early in
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  the game and then you have the fumble and then it felt like,
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  very, very vanilla, very reserved, in terms, of trying to
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  attack them outside on the perimeter, which is where we've
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  had a lot of success with the running game, and also kind of
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  through the air with intermedia game.
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  We burn them with two plays like that and then we really don't
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  kind of go back to that for a long time and when we do you
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  know it's telegraphed. It's stuff that we kind of we're
• 22:54
  showing what's coming. So you know what we got to do is
• 22:56
  get more frequent counters, and wrinkles off of those
• 22:59
  bread-and-butter plays. So we can keep the defense
• 23:02
  guessing a little bit more because it seemed like they were
• 23:05
  key in a lot on those quick screens to the tight end.
• 23:08
  They were key in a lot on those hours things.
• 23:13
  Like that and they were able to kind of get us kind of stymied a
• 23:18
  little bit before we go to get upfield and get our shoulders
• 23:21
  square and kind of get that forward momentum in the in the
• 23:23
  offense. And that's just going to be one
• 23:26
  of those things where you got to bake be quicker and adjusting in
• 23:30
  the game, kind of mid-flow. When you see, okay, well, you
• 23:34
  know, we did, we didn't do this well.
• 23:37
  So you get a little trigger shot with that and then all of a
• 23:39
  sudden, your bread and butter is not working and you don't adjust
• 23:43
  From that and try to find something else.
• 23:45
  That's going to get you back into that Rhythm because we
• 23:47
  really didn't find an offensive Rhythm until the fourth quarter.
• 23:50
  Well how does it know offensive play called or do that though?
• 23:52
  Because you have that first where you run to Great plays and
• 23:56
  unfortunately a fumble happens and then you get gunshot and you
• 23:59
  get triggered for an offensive coordinator.
• 24:03
  Like you can't live like that because you can't live at the
• 24:05
  bread butter doesn't work. And obviously those first two
• 24:08
  plays with something different and getting a young player
• 24:10
  involved early. So the game plan, Lan was there
• 24:14
  but it was just like completely pulled back.
• 24:16
  Like hold the horses. Whoa, we can't keep making
• 24:18
  mistakes like this, what is it? Offensive play caller.
• 24:20
  Have to do to get away from that and just say, no, clearly these
• 24:25
  two plays worked in. We if not for a fumble, we would
• 24:29
  have been on the plus 35 and they were already on their heels
• 24:34
  to plays into the game. So I'll throw a caveat out
• 24:36
  there. You know, it's a delicate
• 24:38
  balance right now because, you know we've talked about it this
• 24:42
  team in. Terms of overall Talent overall
• 24:44
  depth is not good enough to make a lot of mistakes.
• 24:50
  And then still win a game. So now you've got a mistake
• 24:54
  early on but then you let that mistake feed over into other
• 25:00
  things even though you know you're playing more
• 25:03
  conservative. But you're playing on those not
• 25:05
  to not to lose the game now and we can't pray like that.
• 25:11
  Can't play like that. We've got to, we've got to find
• 25:14
  the line between making sure we don't make those dumb mistakes,
• 25:18
  whether it's penalties, whether it's Turnovers, but not getting
• 25:23
  so gunshot that we're not anything.
• 25:27
  All right, well maybe it's what the head man said and I know you
• 25:30
  listened to it a little later after the game and you felt like
• 25:34
  it was both sides, but printer, I called out how we're running.
• 25:37
  Personnel after me seeing it. And after what the offense did
• 25:41
  to me, it felt like, he was going right after the offense,
• 25:43
  may be calling out, Tyler bowling a little bit, maybe not.
• 25:46
  But basically talking about we cannot be vanilla as a team.
• 25:50
  So the first thing you said, not have another.
• 25:52
  You can't even though team, you're not that good enough, but
• 25:55
  we must play the right players. The most interesting one I heard
• 25:59
  was right near the end of that snippet and he talked about, we
• 26:01
  need the best players on the field at all times.
• 26:05
  Even if that includes having two running backs on the field at
• 26:08
  the same time, when you hear that and I know, as we get over
• 26:12
  the defense, we can see what you think he meant by on that side
• 26:15
  of the ball because he did leave it open-ended where you could
• 26:17
  say, either side of the ball. But when you hear that and think
• 26:19
  offensive ly would have potentially if you think we see
• 26:22
  NC State in going forward. Yeah.
• 26:26
  I mean I think It's, you know, it's a lot of things and he
• 26:28
  mentioned, he mentioned the running back specifically, and
• 26:33
  when I'm thinking of the running backs, I'm thinking of that
• 26:36
  third down call where you had Holston out in the flat and it's
• 26:43
  a, it's a laser, it's still a catchable, ball hosting.
• 26:47
  Can't handle it. If you have, you know, one of
• 26:50
  your other two running backs out there, you got Malachi Thomas
• 26:53
  out there. You got Keshawn King out.
• 26:57
  Is that ball handled? Does do you get a catch and run
• 27:00
  for another you know, 10 or 12 yards there to put you in
• 27:04
  scoring range right there. Versus have a pun on the next
• 27:07
  play, maybe. And, you know, I think we're a
• 27:12
  little too deep or we're still filling this out.
• 27:14
  I know, Malachi Thomas has just been back for two games at this
• 27:18
  point, but I think we kind of know what we have with the
• 27:22
  strength of Holston is and is not at this point.
• 27:26
  And unless he's staying in there to block.
• 27:32
  It's probably not a good play for him.
• 27:35
  I mean, just just being honest, it's probably not a good play
• 27:37
  for him. All right.
• 27:42
  What about the? I think you just you got into
• 27:44
  about why? It shouldn't be vanilla and I
• 27:46
  think you've got to find the right balance, but I think who
• 27:49
  we are as a team. There's not much bread and
• 27:52
  butter you have none. You have to be unique.
• 27:55
  You have to take shots. Yeah, we gotta get creative for
• 27:58
  sure. We got to get creative with with
• 28:00
  how we're getting the guys with football.
• 28:02
  You want to have bread, buddy? You want to have those plays?
• 28:04
  You can lean on when things get a little tight, but at the same
• 28:09
  time you've got to be able to throw wrinkles because if the
• 28:12
  other teams playing tight and their key in on what you're
• 28:14
  doing you got to throw them something different and can't
• 28:19
  just hope that they're going to make a mistake and not.
• 28:21
  Were they need to be every time. It's almost like if you can take
• 28:25
  away the vanilla look potentially doing some unique
• 28:28
  things will open up the things we've done.
• 28:31
  Well maybe not exponentially like think that certain run
• 28:34
  plays, it haven't went for seven to carry that's going for two
• 28:38
  but if you open it up just a little maybe it goes 45 because
• 28:41
  until you've got them thinking versus them read reacting.
• 28:45
  Yeah, let me give an example. So you know, we've run that
• 28:49
  quick screen to the tight end a lot.
• 28:51
  Got ya, a lot of times we run it out of regular trips, it's going
• 28:57
  to Gallo from the wing. We saw a bunch trips Bunch with
• 29:02
  with Daquan in there where Lofton and Gallo widen out and
• 29:08
  get the blocks. And that one had a lot of.
• 29:11
  That was the one that got the the first down, in the fourth
• 29:15
  quarter. We're Daquan called it got about
• 29:17
  eight and then fought for the last two to get the first down.
• 29:21
  Those little wrinkles like that little adjustments.
• 29:24
  It doesn't have to be anything major.
• 29:26
  You can still essentially call the same game, but just give it
• 29:30
  a different look. So they can't key pre-snap on
• 29:34
  what you're trying to do. All right, well let's flip and
• 29:39
  let's talk about the next it I think disappointed everybody
• 29:44
  especially after we looked versus pit and that's the
• 29:47
  offensive line Play. I Think Clearly the worst
• 29:50
  overall game for this units. In Saudi you they allowed seven
• 29:54
  sacks. And I know that's a good.
• 29:56
  Miami front. The Run game was probably about
• 29:59
  a yard per carry less than what we wanted to be Braun.
• 30:02
  We were 2.6 of carry, you said, if we were at 34 like 110 yards,
• 30:08
  Probably had a better chance at one yard more.
• 30:12
  That's roughly where we are at 30 carry.
• 30:14
  So you obviously got in the film room and did some breakdowns of
• 30:19
  me. What were the issues there?
• 30:23
  It was definitely the worst. The overall game for that
• 30:25
  offensive line since probably ODU just you know the pass game
• 30:32
  kind of was what it was. The communication was off, it
• 30:36
  seemed There wasn't, they did a lot with delay blitzes, that
• 30:41
  really threw off the, the communication, and kind of the
• 30:45
  switching that the offensive line needs to do to kind of keep
• 30:48
  that Shore. And you couple that with the Run
• 30:51
  game, where we weren't getting a ton of movement between the
• 30:55
  tackles especially we had to generate a lot of, are you merge
• 30:58
  with our quarterback this week probably a little bit more than
• 31:01
  I think we're comfortable with weeks week for sure.
• 31:05
  I like Wells, running more. Um, I think that that's a
• 31:09
  positive in terms of generating, some additional offense but you
• 31:14
  don't want to get in a situation where you're having to have your
• 31:17
  quarterback be the leading rusher for your team.
• 31:20
  We've seen that song and dance before, we don't want to get
• 31:24
  back to that. Now we definitely don't want to
• 31:26
  get back to that. So if you have a one-game here
• 31:29
  there where your quarterback breaks a couple long ones and
• 31:31
  he's the leading rusher for one game.
• 31:34
  Fine. You don't want him to go
• 31:36
  week-to-week being And you know, getting all about the same
• 31:39
  number of carriers as your lead back for you know, handful more
• 31:42
  yards, that's not what you want. So the offensive line definitely
• 31:49
  needs to figure some things out whether that is switching around
• 31:54
  Personnel. It looked like, you know, we
• 31:57
  started the game a lot with a lot of Jesse Hanson, we kind of
• 32:00
  closed it with a little bit more, Braylon more there at the
• 32:03
  end. You know, you'd like to see and
• 32:06
  hopefully, at some point we get to A situation where we're
• 32:09
  comfortable getting Xavier chaplain on the field.
• 32:12
  A lot more and Parker Clements maybe off the field a lot more.
• 32:20
  That I think that would, that would help at least we'd know we
• 32:22
  have. And we can get some Reps for a
• 32:23
  guy that we know is going to have to play a pretty big role
• 32:26
  for us come next season. Absolutely, huge role.
• 32:29
  And you mentioned Grant, Wells legs.
• 32:31
  I mean, let's talk about what we saw Saturday on that.
• 32:33
  I mean, he proved he's not a statute now, is he tie rod or
• 32:38
  any of those guys know? But by proven that you hear
• 32:41
  Pride talking post game, it can be expanded.
• 32:44
  And what I hear that expanded knowing this offense, know what
• 32:47
  you explain to me. Or read option elements more RPO
• 32:52
  elements. And and then it kind of goes
• 32:54
  back to what we talked about, right?
• 32:55
  Personnel saying if you're using a little bit of the RPO, your
• 32:59
  lose a little bit of the read option, along with his just
• 33:02
  scrambling ability, it's going to change defensive looks it's
• 33:05
  going to probably make things easier for the line and it's
• 33:08
  going to make some passes easier for him.
• 33:11
  Yeah. I mean we've been running some
• 33:13
  of the read option at this point.
• 33:16
  We've been running some of the RPO at this point.
• 33:20
  It hasn't been as heavy emphasis, as I thought it was
• 33:24
  going to be before the season, but I think some of that is a
• 33:28
  lot of the other base stuff isn't as developed and as ready
• 33:32
  as they wanted to be. So they're not throwing as many
• 33:34
  of these wrinkles out there, but I think we've gotten to a point.
• 33:37
  Now, where we're getting stymie to a point where we got to try
• 33:41
  something different something. In something that's already kind
• 33:44
  of in the Playbook that we can just kind of integrate a little
• 33:48
  bit deeper in the game plan. Week to week.
• 33:52
  And I think that's where the RPO in war zone comes into play.
• 33:56
  We saw a couple quarterback. We saw a counter called me.
• 34:03
  Yeah, we saw we've seen the drawers all year on Long plays
• 34:08
  which a couple times Saturday actually made up significant
• 34:11
  yardage and that's fine. And I mean he still isn't
• 34:17
  running at a point like even Saturday.
• 34:19
  I mean he ran 16 times Which is clearly the highest number that
• 34:25
  he's ran all season and like you said, I don't want him to have
• 34:30
  to do that all the time. I would like him to be, in the
• 34:33
  8, to 10 range, just more effective with the with those
• 34:37
  design runs or would you lose your coming off of reads or the
• 34:42
  RPO? I mean we can go back and look
• 34:44
  at the tape and kind of decide how many were designs, how many
• 34:47
  were him just scrambling? Because if you're saying in this
• 34:50
  safety wrench 16 times, but if eight were designs at Scrambles
• 34:54
  then then we're probably okay. I think what you're saying is
• 34:57
  designed room, you don't want to see them.
• 34:59
  Specifically saying this is his play verse.
• 35:02
  Yeah I don't want to say 12 plus times a game, we're running our
• 35:05
  quarterback in the design fashion.
• 35:07
  But if you're saying it's 10 designs and then you've got in
• 35:11
  his head, you hit 12 because of this concept.
• 35:14
  These are you know, we're running double vertibird post.
• 35:17
  We're running people off. If there is a lane, don't try to
• 35:21
  get you. The third re you probably Have 5
• 35:23
  to 10 yards of space where you do have enough legs to get us
• 35:28
  positive yardage versus taking a sack.
• 35:30
  Yeah I mean I'd like to see maybe four or five where you
• 35:35
  know it's it's Grant all the way he's not reading he it's not our
• 35:40
  po. It's not Zone it's just grants
• 35:44
  running the ball display and I like to see another probably 5
• 35:49
  to 6 where he has the option to run.
• 35:55
  And maybe even a few more than the, but I wouldn't go much
• 35:58
  heavier than that right now. But there's but there's things
• 36:02
  that we can do kind of off of that, that will get take a
• 36:06
  little more pressure off of him. And I'm hoping that we can do
• 36:09
  some more creative things that are running.
• 36:10
  A my no Prime Mansion you know to backfield sets.
• 36:14
  You know, you got a guy like King that we can split a guy
• 36:16
  like chance black that you can split out.
• 36:19
  Have you managed of it? Yeah, take advantage of it.
• 36:22
  Create some mismatches. Create some different looks for
• 36:26
  the defense. Think about it.
• 36:28
  Like, catch them misalign. I mean, there's so many things
• 36:31
  you can do with with those different Personnel that might
• 36:33
  catch the defense off guard there.
• 36:35
  Well, think about an RPO pop skirt or a pop swing pass.
• 36:38
  Where if you've got King and Malachi in the backfield and
• 36:41
  you're reading hard and just let King run to the flat, Are you
• 36:45
  immediately going to be avoiding somebody like a linebacker or
• 36:48
  safety if you're doing that? Absolutely because if they
• 36:52
  decide to stay in the boxing Grant read that you're talking
• 36:55
  about going to a flat where now if the wide outs are upfield and
• 36:59
  blocking it could be a lot of yards and what does that do the
• 37:04
  next time you immediately see the linebacker change their
• 37:07
  Direction, they don't bite in on the run and then you might have
• 37:10
  numbers inside the box but we could get deeper into that.
• 37:13
  And I'm like, yeah. Yeah.
• 37:15
  I'll tell you another thing. I like to see, we've run a lot
• 37:17
  of those quick screens to the tide in and quick screens to the
• 37:19
  running back. When we're in shotgun, I'd like
• 37:23
  to see maybe something where you either run a wheel off of that
• 37:28
  or you know you're looking you're showing that and then
• 37:32
  throwing back, throw that into the ocean to the opposite side
• 37:37
  of where you're seeing that most you right now.
• 37:38
  They're jumping that every time they're jumping it.
• 37:42
  And we got to start burning them a little bit when they're taking
• 37:47
  those risks and jumping that you know, something that they've
• 37:49
  seen on tape a lot at this point.
• 37:51
  Absolutely. All right, well I think I'm
• 37:53
  gonna hit one more piece here. I think as we go into next year
• 37:57
  talking about we've talked a lot about Thomas and we talked to
• 38:00
  right? And we saw Lofton, make a hell
• 38:02
  of a catch on Saturday in Braylon more getting one more
• 38:05
  play time. I think the young players on the
• 38:07
  offense you've got a foundation, they're not all right.
• 38:12
  Young, they're going to be here, at least two to three more
• 38:14
  seasons, roughly mom. And with guys like Caleb Smith,
• 38:19
  even Wells coming back next year.
• 38:21
  If they find the Parker Clements of 2021 and bring him back,
• 38:26
  significantly, help, I'm still trying to figure out what's
• 38:30
  happened to him and I think I have a feeling in the offseason.
• 38:33
  You're going to be pulling up 2021 tape and 2022 tape of him
• 38:35
  and be like, what's the difference?
• 38:36
  But how does it make you feel foundationally for the next
• 38:40
  couple Seasons? No.
• 38:41
  Knowing the guys who were showing out the most right now,
• 38:45
  are some of the youngest in that room.
• 38:48
  Yeah, a lot of the young players on offense of definitely stepped
• 38:51
  up, you know, we talked about right, and Thomas in particular,
• 38:55
  still really early into their careers, you know, Loft and I
• 38:58
  know he had the big drop, but, you know, I think he's coming
• 39:02
  along. Hopefully, we can, we can get
• 39:05
  some, some more consistency with his hands.
• 39:10
  He met, he catches the hard ones, man.
• 39:12
  He does. The degree of difficulty, is up.
• 39:15
  He bring those in, he made that Catch this past week against
• 39:20
  Miami. He made that big where he
• 39:23
  climbed the ladder and brought it down against piss.
• 39:26
  So I mean, he makes those high high degree of difficulty
• 39:29
  catches, we just got to get him to bring in those routine.
• 39:33
  Ones with greater routine, right?
• 39:36
  I don't percent then more, I think just getting more
• 39:40
  consistent snaps maybe even getting a start here as the
• 39:44
  season goes along, I think would be good for his maturity.
• 39:48
  Me and coming along in the offense.
• 39:51
  Absolutely. All right, let's flip over to
• 39:53
  the defense side of the ball now.
• 39:55
  Brian. Let's first of all, we welcome
• 39:57
  back to players to on Garbutt who had missed the pit game, who
• 40:01
  had a really big day with a sack and a half three.
• 40:04
  Tackles for loss five. Total tackles also Allen Tisdale
• 40:08
  back Allen, Tisdale with nine tackles second, Auntie mahina,
• 40:11
  Jalen strowman. And I think we really saw it
• 40:16
  Shore up the defense and again, address even more that That this
• 40:21
  is a good defense. Is it great note but it is a
• 40:24
  good defense that you know. Brian if I told you, you know,
• 40:28
  eight days ago on Wednesday, night on Tuesday night.
• 40:31
  Brian. We're going to leave you.
• 40:32
  We're going to hold them to 20. Are you going to take it?
• 40:36
  I take it all day, man. If you said that we were only
• 40:39
  going to allow 20 points in that game.
• 40:41
  I said there's at least a 60% chance, we win that game.
• 40:44
  And if the offense and showed a little bit more life there in,
• 40:47
  probably been about a 60% chance, we would have won that
• 40:49
  game so you know, I'm fine with the output of spec.
• 40:54
  I'm really impressed. With the adjustments that we saw
• 40:59
  at have time because almost everything that we did at
• 41:05
  halftime took away, what they were doing, well, in the first
• 41:10
  half. And I mean, the biggest one was
• 41:15
  giving us a whole lot more of monster d'Alene.
• 41:21
  We got a whole lot more of, we got a got a lot more cam Johnson
• 41:25
  to, but we got a whole lot of the freshmen, cornerbacks got
• 41:29
  some run in the second half and they showed out and they showed
• 41:33
  out consistently and in particular delaying went up
• 41:38
  there and was you know, High pointing balls, getting it
• 41:42
  getting some some some deflections and I mean he was
• 41:46
  like the third-year player. Yeah, look like the third-year
• 41:49
  player on Saturday at the of the condensed and highlight.
• 41:51
  So I'll say this, he looked eerily like when we got Kendall
• 41:59
  Fuller on the field as a true freshman.
• 42:01
  Okay. Yeah.
• 42:04
  All right. Now don't get me wrong.
• 42:06
  The defense, have some errors in the first have absolutely but
• 42:11
  they if somebody said well it would have been a blowout.
• 42:14
  Should have been a blow out. My knee took the foot off the
• 42:17
  pedal. No, Miami could not run the
• 42:19
  ball. That's why I could run the whole
• 42:22
  game. I mean, dang, they couldn't run.
• 42:23
  Yeah, and I mean, you're talking about think about this, you
• 42:27
  know, Miami. They had five runs or more of
• 42:31
  nine yards or 72 yards. Longest one was 15 the rest of
• 42:36
  the game they have 35 on like 23, they were lower than us for
• 42:43
  those 23 and I mean I think having Tisdale back was big on
• 42:48
  that and I think having Corbett back was big on that.
• 42:51
  When you looked at some of the tapes, how much better will it
• 42:53
  run fits? Especially with garbett and
• 42:55
  Tisdale bad? Definitely more consistent.
• 42:58
  There were still a couple that weren't quite what you want but
• 43:02
  we didn't we didn't they didn't have a running back that could
• 43:05
  burn us and when they had that like Pride was talking about a
• 43:09
  lot of the guys in the secondary, we're taking some
• 43:11
  better angles at helping clean that up.
• 43:15
  So you didn't see see the big gains.
• 43:17
  And I know we spoke last week when we talked about Miami, you
• 43:20
  know, they get They don't get to the second level and completely
• 43:22
  towards you. Like pit does pits very much if
• 43:26
  you get them. In the first three or five
• 43:29
  yards, they're not going to do very much.
• 43:31
  If you let them get past five and you have put a body on them,
• 43:35
  you're in fucking trouble and Amy is not that at the running
• 43:39
  back position and we saw it and you know, we were able to keep
• 43:44
  them in. Check now pass defensible
• 43:48
  different story. I think it's showing every week
• 43:52
  how much were missing? Dorian, strong and him not
• 43:54
  coming. Back this week I'm wondering if
• 43:57
  If he's back against NC State and again, it sort of hurts the
• 44:02
  whole rotation, it's one reason Jalen Stroman had a ton of
• 44:05
  tackles, he was playing the free spot a lot.
• 44:08
  And Brianna Marie is probably the most frustrating players
• 44:12
  right now because there are times where you look at his tape
• 44:15
  and it's like he does everything perfect and it's great.
• 44:18
  And then there's some of those plays like on some of the Miami
• 44:22
  early drives where it's just that passing the back of the end
• 44:26
  zone. Maybe he got picked or
• 44:28
  something, but it looked like. He'd almost given up on catching
• 44:31
  that whiteout. Yeah.
• 44:33
  And maybe he got picked TV angles.
• 44:37
  You got to get all 22s where you can see on the back half, but it
• 44:40
  was like, he almost gave up on that play.
• 44:41
  And if he gives up on that play it's like maybe that's why we
• 44:44
  saw in the second half of listen, you can't give up on a
• 44:49
  plate, weird things happen in football and I hope that's not
• 44:53
  the case. I just hope it was one of those
• 44:54
  weird things where he tripped or stumbled or but, you know, I'll
• 45:01
  say this. So, you know, I appreciate what?
• 45:07
  What Briana Murray brings to the table.
• 45:09
  He's got some decent skills, but I saw enough In Miami where he
• 45:17
  doesn't need to be the first guy out in.
• 45:19
  Okay. Less unless unless there's two
• 45:22
  or three corners out of that game for injuries, he doesn't
• 45:25
  need to be the first guy. And we've talked about it
• 45:32
  before, we're comfortable with him as, as a guy were you can
• 45:36
  throw in for a series here or series there to give a guy a
• 45:40
  blow that needs a blow and as we're seeing having to lean on
• 45:46
  him for significant portions of a game, it's been a struggle.
• 45:52
  It's been very up and down and that's against Miami, that's
• 45:56
  being kind. So, I mean it's different.
• 46:00
  It's difficult to watch is it's hard to say that about a guy.
• 46:04
  That's a, you know, a veteran, that's done.
• 46:06
  Some good things for your team and his time here.
• 46:08
  But I'm going with the two freshmen before I want to see.
• 46:14
  Breanna Murray on the field again and write something else
• 46:19
  that happened. Mr. Peeples gets ejected for
• 46:21
  targeting and you, I think you texted me because I was there,
• 46:27
  and I saw some type of mine who was Was it and you're like Missy
• 46:29
  I was like I'm man and then you texted me a little later and
• 46:33
  I'll just do the radio and you're like this isn't hurting
• 46:36
  us as much as I thought it would.
• 46:37
  So who you know, I think the Sears back this week will
• 46:40
  clearly be the starter again, but who took over the strong
• 46:43
  safety role. When that happened, we saw
• 46:45
  strowman in there a lot when we went and nickel.
• 46:47
  We saw a lot of DJ Harvey, so there there wasn't a lot of drop
• 46:54
  off because of the the mix of those two getting in there.
• 46:58
  DJ held up. Well, he made some plays out
• 47:01
  there and then we saw strowman that was out there doing a
• 47:04
  really good job and obviously Stroman in particular has played
• 47:07
  a lot of snaps in kind of a secondary role this year and it
• 47:12
  on nickel package is so seeing him getting a more consistent
• 47:15
  role for all for all three steps, there was good, he
• 47:21
  actually showed up very well. Yeah, we keep mentioned, a lot
• 47:24
  of younger guys, names, more and more, and more and playing the
• 47:26
  best last piece, Brian. And I know you hate being,
• 47:30
  right? But you said it last week, like,
• 47:32
  if we keep them at 40%, we have a chance to win this game.
• 47:35
  They were 47. 40 percent is roughly one less plate, one or
• 47:41
  two less plays. If you think Van Dyke Granite
• 47:44
  late to get the third down, that kept them the ball, obviously
• 47:48
  numerous times during the during the game.
• 47:52
  Where they're The scoring range they get in scoring range or if
• 47:55
  it's a stop, some of those third and Long's or second and Long's
• 47:58
  where they make it up and now it kind of hinges.
• 48:02
  It's like I know you hate being right?
• 48:06
  But does it frustrate you even more?
• 48:09
  You watch the whole game and I'm sure after the game, you're down
• 48:11
  at the beach. I'm sure.
• 48:12
  You went out to lunch dinner. Watch some games.
• 48:14
  Those did you look at your phone and see that percentage in like
• 48:17
  shit. Shit.
• 48:20
  One play. Yeah I mean and you know you
• 48:24
  pointed out the I'd say you like two or three of the Tyler Van
• 48:28
  Dyke runs if you take those away it's a different game.
• 48:32
  Your credit to him for being of the extend plays and make some
• 48:35
  good reads on some of those read options obviously some some
• 48:39
  points of those games. You're crashing hard, you're
• 48:43
  trying to make a play, he made a smart move and pulled it, and
• 48:47
  was able to run for a first down on a couple of those.
• 48:50
  And that's kind of the difference in the game.
• 48:51
  I think, you know, they were getting a couple more plays here
• 48:54
  there, and we weren't making the plays that were there,
• 48:58
  especially on offense sometimes. So that's just how it goes.
• 49:01
  I think this team is still learning how to to win and how
• 49:05
  to make those winning plays in situations where a play can kind
• 49:08
  of go either direction. And we're just Making enough of
• 49:12
  them yet. Absolutely.
• 49:14
  So, again, we'll close that chapter.
• 49:16
  As we go into the bye week, Hokies fall.
• 49:20
  We got Brian cops. I feel like wholesome are in the
• 49:22
  same position. We appreciate your loyalty and
• 49:24
  dedication, but the young Bulls, you didn't get more snaps and I
• 49:26
  think that's probably what we're going to see.
• 49:28
  And we're seeing the head, coach mentioning more and more.
• 49:32
  Let's go into some news and notes frying, catfish last week.
• 49:36
  You ever read a tweet that looks real?
• 49:39
  And it looks like a real Source Ryan.
• 49:41
  Austin was not fired last week from Auburn.
• 49:43
  I don't know how much longer they're going to keep him though
• 49:46
  because he lost again, but I didn't find out till, like,
• 49:50
  Saturday, and I'm like, sitting there, like, Brian, who got me
• 49:58
  again, got me again, but eventually he's gonna get fired.
• 50:02
  Um, so I'll make up that Brian. I know you were at the beach,
• 50:06
  you're doing a lot of things, but let me tell you some
• 50:08
  Saturday. That's one of those days for
• 50:11
  college. Ball that even though the Hokies
• 50:14
  lost and it sucks. But maybe, as you get older,
• 50:18
  it's easier. And we're slowly approaching 40.
• 50:21
  Maybe that's why makes it easier for us the afternoon in the
• 50:24
  nights later games, man. I mean, three unbelievable
• 50:28
  games. Yeah, I mean, it was kind of, it
• 50:32
  was fun all day, man. It was fun all day.
• 50:34
  We had, you know, we started the day with our Hokies had some big
• 50:38
  matchups in the afternoon, had a good evening slate.
• 50:43
  Got got to like check back and forth on what Michigan.
• 50:46
  Doing during our game. So, I mean, well, that became
• 50:50
  very apparent about six minutes into the second half.
• 50:53
  They just turned on the afterburners.
• 50:55
  Yeah. And just left Penn State.
• 50:56
  Unfortunately, I was my pick was Okie State, four and a half of
• 51:01
  that day and gonna go to overtime.
• 51:04
  I make it, but give TCU credit down 14, with, like under 10
• 51:09
  left, they come all the way back.
• 51:11
  And when the other game I was tuned into Too late night Kyle,
• 51:18
  Winningham has balls of stone because it's 4241, you're
• 51:22
  playing USC and he says screw over time.
• 51:25
  He goes 42 and they get it and they beat USC.
• 51:28
  Yeah, that was a big. I was a big dump move.
• 51:30
  They big nut move. Now obviously though the big one
• 51:35
  we both were watching. I'm sure it made us all cry a
• 51:40
  little on the inside. I'll hook you fans can admit it,
• 51:42
  especially if you knew obviously the hinted hooker thing but then
• 51:47
  who is throwing too. But that was an unbelievable
• 51:49
  game. Start to finish, start to finish
• 51:53
  Tennessee, kind of gets out early, Alabama claws back then
• 51:57
  it's a back-and-forth show to kind of close things out and you
• 52:02
  get a missed field goal in One Direction.
• 52:05
  You get two, good plays by Hendon and In field goal range,
• 52:09
  field goal gets tipped. It's tipped and it Knuckles
• 52:13
  through the damn goal, post and clears.
• 52:15
  The upright by about that much. Oh, that was wild and then, you
• 52:21
  know, love them, hate Tennessee, you rushed the field on that,
• 52:24
  you do tear down the goalposts. You go crazy.
• 52:27
  You tear down the goalposts. You pull up some some Checker
• 52:29
  Turf. Oh my God, the whole shebang,
• 52:33
  man. I hope one day we can do that
• 52:36
  again in Lane Stadium. By the way tomorrow?
• 52:39
  Brian. Do you know what tomorrow is?
• 52:42
  Well, we got Sports Equinox. Hey Equinox on 1020 for those
• 52:49
  who don't know what a sporty could knock.
• 52:51
  Is basically every major sport in this country including
• 52:55
  college football will be played tomorrow night baseball,
• 53:00
  playoffs NFL college football, hockey and NBA.
• 53:03
  And it's was you should like take off from work, but we can't
• 53:08
  because we've already taken too many days off this year for
• 53:10
  other things but you know it's awesome when it happens.
• 53:14
  It really is because you can't get away from it and it's one of
• 53:18
  those where it's, yeah, I'm not watching a show tonight.
• 53:20
  I'm watching some sort of sport Curtis wants yesterday's sick
• 53:25
  day back so he can take it tomorrow Friday the Friday.
• 53:30
  Alright, another thing that came up and we saw some Hokies
• 53:35
  respond so I had to put it on here.
• 53:37
  Someone I've seen in concert, I think you saw in concert but
• 53:40
  Marty Smith takes put out there in a tweak.
• 53:43
  What is the best? Alan Some song, I'll let you
• 53:47
  lead sir. Alright, so my pick is Midnight
• 53:52
  in Montgomery. It's the the ain't go song, you
• 53:55
  know, there's there's like a plethora of Hank Go songs, but I
• 53:59
  put Midnight in Montgomery right up there with the ride by David
• 54:02
  Allan Coe, as the two upper echelon, goes to Hank, Williams
• 54:07
  songs. And then, the other one is, I
• 54:11
  don't even know your name. Jeff, Foxworthy in the This
• 54:14
  video some classic tongue-in-cheek like fruit.
• 54:20
  Yeah justjust great quintessential 90s country song
• 54:27
  true true. Both of them and two songs that
• 54:30
  a lot of people who here Alan Jackson probably can't correlate
• 54:33
  unless you follow the country at that point in time I want to go
• 54:36
  to both weepers the best song, his all times here in the real
• 54:40
  world, my opinion. Because the opening line of that
• 54:44
  song of cowboys don't die in here.
• 54:46
  Oh don't cry. That gets here, because here in
• 54:49
  the real world, the boy don't always get the girl, breaks your
• 54:52
  heart and then someday. I mean, just like the most weepy
• 54:58
  ballad songs you ever heard, but if you listen to them, the
• 55:01
  poetic piece in, there is big and Brawn before we go to break.
• 55:07
  Alan Jackson's got some all-time weepers though.
• 55:09
  He does though, man. Remember when Drive?
• 55:12
  I mean it's he's he's he's one of the greatest.
• 55:17
  I would say some people say contemporary he's one of the
• 55:20
  greatest country song writers of all time and all four songs we
• 55:23
  mentioned Wrote, he wrote those songs, some of the songs and
• 55:30
  we're not even mentioned, where were you, when the world stopped
• 55:31
  turning. And I, like what somebody said
• 55:34
  on that one, like he wrote that song and nobody helps tried
• 55:38
  after that fact, Brian real quick.
• 55:41
  Before we go to break here on dueling a remembrance because
• 55:46
  year ago today we lost one of our best friends and you know,
• 55:53
  You put up the story of your Facebook page about the Rumple
• 55:55
  Minze, a which, to this day, we were in college.
• 55:59
  Yep, Brown Wilkerson there with this bunch of other buddies,
• 56:02
  Robbie Jason and we make a shit ton of shots with a variety of
• 56:07
  Liquors. One of them was Rumple Minze.
• 56:11
  Brian you mentioned on there, man?
• 56:14
  About that night and I remember that night that he was the only
• 56:18
  person of our group that somehow all night.
• 56:20
  Didn't take a Rumple Minze shot. Yeah, he knew.
• 56:25
  Which one's had the blue label, vodka, and which one's had the
• 56:28
  Rumple Minze? And he had and my God, he got
• 56:31
  none of them. And we got all of them and you
• 56:35
  were in college, you didn't spit out liquor, but just one of
• 56:38
  those moments and, you know, it's been a year I missed the
• 56:41
  test because he would be texting us or putting something Right
• 56:44
  now on here, and Brian will always miss you man.
• 56:49
  And and and I said, I'm not in my post.
• 56:53
  I am a man of many words, anybody's ever, met me and talk
• 56:56
  to me, I can, I can talk your ear off all day, but for him and
• 57:01
  I'm thinking this me and Brian we miss you, man.
• 57:03
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• 57:32
  right, Brian. So let's get into the what if
• 57:37
  so, about a month ago? I mean, Brian were kicking
• 57:40
  around. What do we do about?
• 57:41
  Do we just go in and do a recap and kick it?
• 57:44
  That wouldn't be fun. We did that.
• 57:46
  Last year, we did that. Yeah, we did this.
• 57:49
  We got to keep you all over your toes.
• 57:51
  You can't just forgive the same shit every year, exactly.
• 57:53
  But this year is the, what if it's the, you know, wish you
• 57:59
  were here? I miss you.
• 58:00
  You. I wish I'd like to have that one
• 58:02
  back. Think of all those songs in your
• 58:04
  head of all the hockey players that left last year declaring
• 58:09
  for the draft portal. And all that who would be and we
• 58:15
  were merging it for. But Brian said that's too easy.
• 58:18
  We got to make it three. Who are the three players?
• 58:21
  You wish you could have back on this team and then legibility
• 58:26
  remaining that either left early portal.
• 58:32
  So we start going through the list and we've got our list
• 58:34
  here, and what we're going to do is go through all the players
• 58:37
  and then we're going to go through.
• 58:40
  Are 3, because there are three do not match per se.
• 58:45
  And then we're going to talk about what we think we'd be at.
• 58:47
  Now, let's start here. Brian one guy, maybe kind of
• 58:50
  unsung guy. Pay daily.
• 58:53
  You know I'll let you give us pros and I'll give some of those
• 58:56
  kinds and we'll go why he's not back essentially on us.
• 59:01
  Yeah. I mean the pros of him coming
• 59:04
  back for his this year, he could have given us more flexibility
• 59:06
  at safety or Sam linebacker and he would have provided some
• 59:10
  additional leadership on the defense as a.
• 59:12
  Another veteran on that back end and sort of the Cons with it is
• 59:18
  he was a solid but not as you know, spectacular player.
• 59:22
  A good player and sometimes a little bit inconsistent when
• 59:25
  it's technique and I think as we were discussing this and we're
• 59:28
  talking Tay, I think the back is just good enough.
• 59:32
  I think the back end is good enough where it is in.
• 59:36
  You know, the only thing you could say, is, could you save a
• 59:39
  red shirt? And I think we're now to the
• 59:40
  point where saving a red shirt. We're not seeing that work out
• 59:44
  because some of the guys who are playing are better.
• 59:47
  Yeah, absolutely. All right.
• 59:49
  Next on our list guy, we had on this show, It was Jordan
• 59:53
  Williams. Now the pros for Jordan I mean
• 59:56
  he was one of we thought about it long and hard maybe shouldn't
• 59:59
  be as high but we just did it in an order because his body type
• 1:00:03
  and his play style fits. What we're doing on the
• 1:00:06
  defensive side of the ball without a shadow of a doubt
• 1:00:09
  gives that line even more leadership.
• 1:00:11
  And then by maybe I made the point, he creates some winning
• 1:00:15
  match ups because of what we're asking him to do, there would be
• 1:00:19
  times where Garbutt wouldn't be getting Guard hand in his face
• 1:00:24
  as he goes around the end. Yep.
• 1:00:26
  They would have to come inside and focus on Jordan a little
• 1:00:29
  bit. It's another guy.
• 1:00:30
  You got to look down for heavily.
• 1:00:32
  It gives you a veteran four-man rotation.
• 1:00:37
  They're just, you know, there's a lot of things that would that
• 1:00:39
  would benefit their. Now, the kind of him coming
• 1:00:41
  back, I think he had kind of already maximized his draft
• 1:00:44
  stock, which we took into account, because we have to
• 1:00:47
  because that's their guy at their money.
• 1:00:49
  Yeah. And I think in terms of Oops, it
• 1:00:53
  would've been fewer steps for Wilfred permit penne to grow
• 1:00:56
  into the position. And if you're thinking
• 1:00:58
  long-term, that's probably better for us in a year like
• 1:01:02
  this year, where is throwing a guy like Jordan back in there?
• 1:01:08
  Make it big difference in the win-loss column, you know, who's
• 1:01:11
  to say, absolutely. So, if Jordan, and obviously,
• 1:01:15
  we've seen having food on seeing Kendricks and Pinette and
• 1:01:20
  Pollard we played good. Could he be beneficial?
• 1:01:24
  Yeah, absolutely. All right, next one.
• 1:01:26
  And this was one of the tough ones.
• 1:01:28
  It was Jermaine Waller. I mean, I love strong to death,
• 1:01:33
  but Waller is a better Corner than him.
• 1:01:37
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:37
  I mean it's not light years better especially you know we
• 1:01:41
  haven't really seen him not banged up since 2019.
• 1:01:44
  Sure. But he would have been an
• 1:01:46
  immediate number one corner on the team.
• 1:01:49
  You know, he'd be back in a system that better fits his
• 1:01:51
  skill set. We think about when he had his
• 1:01:54
  best year, it was 2019 when he was playing kind of more of a
• 1:02:00
  similar style to what we're playing now and you know, it
• 1:02:04
  will given us some more rotation flexibility in the secondary,
• 1:02:08
  whether it's, you know, nickel corner or different things like
• 1:02:11
  that. We have been able to get a lot
• 1:02:13
  more matchup based situations. We're not in any sort of Area
• 1:02:22
  where we're guys can take advantage of mismatches.
• 1:02:26
  Absolutely. And I'll sort of the cons
• 1:02:28
  similar to Jordan Williams. He'd already maximized his draft
• 1:02:32
  stock. I think where he was where he
• 1:02:34
  was, but for him, it was the injury history to because if you
• 1:02:38
  think about that, you know, he essentially retired from the
• 1:02:41
  lines due to an injury. What if it was something that
• 1:02:43
  happened in Spring ball where like the trainers are like
• 1:02:46
  listening if you don't quit football right now.
• 1:02:50
  You're going to walk with a limp for the rest of your life, or,
• 1:02:52
  you know, you're not gonna be able to do these things.
• 1:02:55
  Yeah, I don't know what happened to Troy but usually when a guy
• 1:02:58
  retires like that, it's something where they're saying
• 1:03:00
  the rest of your life is going to be affected by this, and then
• 1:03:04
  a lot of it, what keeps going back to is?
• 1:03:06
  It's less snaps for Harvey and struggling and obviously both of
• 1:03:09
  them played very well on Saturday and kind of playing
• 1:03:13
  well for the season. So as much as it's a temptation
• 1:03:16
  to have Waller and strong and really Probably turn a top.
• 1:03:23
  That's a top, have a cc secondary into probably an elite
• 1:03:26
  third. We just neither one of us could
• 1:03:30
  pull the trigger on. Yeah, it was close.
• 1:03:33
  It was close for, sure. It's closed.
• 1:03:34
  Now, another one that I thought Brian was going to pull the
• 1:03:37
  trigger on how much she loved him, all these years was Raheem
• 1:03:40
  Blackshear. Now, I think we see how they've
• 1:03:46
  used the players in this scheme. How they Malachi had six balls.
• 1:03:50
  As we've seen them, run some good place to Keshawn King.
• 1:03:53
  He definitely would have probably got his skillset
• 1:03:55
  maximized. It also would have meant a lot
• 1:03:59
  better rotation when Thomas was healthy, when shooting when
• 1:04:03
  Thomas was injured and obviously he's one of the he is already
• 1:04:08
  after he got traded or released inside North Carolina and
• 1:04:12
  against minors, he is showing his value in the kick return
• 1:04:14
  game and we saw that a few times last year when he had big run
• 1:04:18
  backs. So you Sort of that depth where
• 1:04:22
  you again, it's sort of, as a trickle effect, right?
• 1:04:25
  And if it helps with depth all around because you don't have to
• 1:04:27
  rush him and Keyshawn out there together, you can rush them out
• 1:04:30
  one at a time and so on, and so forth.
• 1:04:32
  Now what's the cons on him? Right, you know, I think that
• 1:04:37
  one of the cons is that he loses some value with the healthy
• 1:04:39
  Thomas and then a Revitalize Keshawn King this year.
• 1:04:43
  You know, you got three mouths to feed Our who's going to get
• 1:04:47
  some of those carries is it going to be kind of a true, you
• 1:04:50
  know? Rotation is it going to still be
• 1:04:52
  Thomas? Kind of the lead guy and then
• 1:04:54
  you have black sheer and KK kind of working in there and it's
• 1:04:58
  going to cause some of the young players.
• 1:05:00
  Some reps. I wish we could get brass Duke.
• 1:05:03
  Some more carries this year as things goes along red shirts,
• 1:05:05
  already burned. So we might as well take some
• 1:05:07
  Advantage there. You probably wouldn't have that.
• 1:05:10
  If you had blacks back on this team and kind of like the some
• 1:05:14
  of the others we already talked about he'd probably already
• 1:05:15
  maximized. Stock and especially, and
• 1:05:18
  especially for his age, as a running back.
• 1:05:23
  You're running back incoming backs, not going to
• 1:05:25
  significantly improve your dress that and get out there get on
• 1:05:28
  the team. Find a roster spot and get
• 1:05:31
  moving. Do exactly what he's done when
• 1:05:33
  he got the Carolina. Yep.
• 1:05:35
  He nail has a roster spot, probably for the rest of the
• 1:05:37
  year there and they'll probably bring him back next year, so
• 1:05:40
  making the right decisions. Now we're getting into the
• 1:05:43
  really tough ones that we left off.
• 1:05:46
  And some people are going to curse and say, how do you leave
• 1:05:48
  these guys off? The first one is Brock.
• 1:05:51
  Hoffman and Brian. I'll let you get into the pros
• 1:05:55
  of why we could have brought them back.
• 1:05:59
  Yeah, I mean he would be an upgrade on the offensive line
• 1:06:02
  mainly because of his versatility, his skill set would
• 1:06:06
  also fit Rudolph skiing probably as good or better than anybody
• 1:06:10
  in the current line right now and he's got a nasty streak and
• 1:06:14
  kind of sets the tone for the off.
• 1:06:16
  It's so I think that would be kind of a good personality to
• 1:06:21
  have on this style of Team, you know.
• 1:06:24
  But there are some cons Curtis I'll let you roll with those.
• 1:06:27
  Well another big con we keep going back to it more and more
• 1:06:30
  and more is he maximize his draft stock?
• 1:06:33
  You know Brock was already rocks, 23 years old in an
• 1:06:37
  offensive lineman it's very similar.
• 1:06:39
  You start getting up there in years, you know, Brian you
• 1:06:42
  played for years, you hit a wall, it's over.
• 1:06:45
  Now, you have you Freaks Like Kelsey and Trent Williams who
• 1:06:48
  somehow complete 15 years. They don't lose a step, but most
• 1:06:51
  times, it's 56 years and guys done because of the hole in the
• 1:06:56
  punishment that takes on the body.
• 1:06:57
  So we maximize Drive stop. He had to take it.
• 1:07:00
  And now, you know, he's made Cleveland's roster, great for
• 1:07:02
  him, the personal fouls and penalties is something we've
• 1:07:05
  tried to clean up. And a couple of those games have
• 1:07:09
  brought was still on the offensive line.
• 1:07:11
  I'm wondering if we could have been closer to 200 yards of
• 1:07:13
  Total Building yard, we were like to lie.
• 1:07:16
  Penalized team in power 5. Last year.
• 1:07:19
  And like half of those were Brock.
• 1:07:20
  Hoffman. Exactly.
• 1:07:23
  Probably the other. Point significant upgraded
• 1:07:26
  Center. We do say specifically Center
• 1:07:29
  because of obviously y'all don't hear names being called, you're
• 1:07:33
  going to figure out the rest but Johnny's played well this year
• 1:07:37
  Johnny's clay came in and asked to do good and he's done well
• 1:07:41
  and it's tough to leave an offensive lineman off because of
• 1:07:44
  the struggles we have but I think as you get into it, you
• 1:07:48
  guys are going to see why. Now, this was the biggie, this
• 1:07:53
  was the one. We we literally last Friday On
• 1:07:58
  the phone for what? Probably an hour and 20 minutes
• 1:08:02
  and 25 were talking about this guy and it's James Mitchell.
• 1:08:09
  Who's currently the Detroit Lions?
• 1:08:11
  He clearly would have been the best athlete on the field.
• 1:08:15
  On the offensive side of the ball.
• 1:08:16
  Ricardo to you, bring back the other pieces, Brian and talked
• 1:08:21
  about it. We're already seeing it with
• 1:08:23
  Daquan right and some with Nick Gallo this really would have
• 1:08:26
  benefited. Hits the coaching scheme of
• 1:08:28
  collarbone? What a significantly benefited
• 1:08:31
  him. He got drafted in the sixth
• 1:08:34
  round. He got to be grafted mostly off
• 1:08:38
  some good Red Zone scores and athleticism and the other thing
• 1:08:42
  is you just said it Ron. He could have potentially
• 1:08:44
  maximize his draft potential. Now, does that mean day one?
• 1:08:48
  I'd say no, I would say no later than early day three.
• 1:08:52
  So probably somewhere between pick Sin 115 the upper half of
• 1:09:00
  the round for. So he would have maximized about
• 1:09:02
  24 around which would have been a lot of money.
• 1:09:04
  Yeah. It's he probably goes from where
• 1:09:06
  he was to either late day to early day three.
• 1:09:10
  Now there are few cons we only got two, instead of three.
• 1:09:15
  Yep, the biggest one is that that's probably the deepest room
• 1:09:19
  in terms of ability in our roster right now.
• 1:09:23
  We already have two hybrid players that were working in
• 1:09:27
  obviously. One is a true freshman and
• 1:09:29
  Daquan right? The other is Connor blumrich
• 1:09:34
  which we haven't really seen a whole lot of sense.
• 1:09:36
  Rights kind of come on but you know we still have guys at that
• 1:09:41
  position that we can line up and get some production out of.
• 1:09:44
  And I think the other one is that he kind of knew he'd have a
• 1:09:47
  spot on an NFL roster, bit this resume just based on that
• 1:09:52
  athleticism. Yep I mean his size his speed
• 1:09:56
  and hands those They're already there.
• 1:09:59
  You know, the only knock on him was coming off the injury.
• 1:10:02
  Obviously, yep. Not really being able to fully
• 1:10:05
  work out for a lot of these teams before the draft.
• 1:10:07
  And that was a point. Me in Brian made about the
• 1:10:10
  injury. History, is a guy who has his
• 1:10:14
  type of ability, teams will draft even if they're hurt.
• 1:10:18
  And if they aren't up to full speed to begin, see, there are
• 1:10:20
  our the right on their full paycheck.
• 1:10:21
  And I are on because a, a team, like, the Lions know, there are
• 1:10:25
  certain teams who are very well. L ran that will go snipe those
• 1:10:29
  players in a heartbeat and put them on practice squad.
• 1:10:33
  And sometimes we leave through the practice squad, they say,
• 1:10:36
  well, you can go back there or we'll give you half a million
• 1:10:38
  dollars to be a practice white guy because we think you're
• 1:10:41
  going to be on the roster next year.
• 1:10:42
  So, I think he, he knew, he knew that he was going to land, and I
• 1:10:46
  think we look, he was already fully guaranteed a million bucks
• 1:10:49
  this year. So he's already got
• 1:10:50
  life-changing money, right out the gate.
• 1:10:52
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:10:54
  So let's do this. Brian, we have basically A one
• 1:10:59
  consensus, pick one opposite pick and then two players.
• 1:11:05
  We sort of said I could take one of the other, you'll probably
• 1:11:07
  can guess the last two. But let's start with the
• 1:11:10
  consensus problem. Let's start with the seat is
• 1:11:12
  Smith and what he would bring to this team for this year.
• 1:11:16
  Yeah, I mean the big thing is an immediate upgrade on the
• 1:11:18
  offensive line. I think with his versatility he
• 1:11:21
  could be a starting left guard or left tackle.
• 1:11:24
  That would move Silas back over to write that would really
• 1:11:27
  assure up a lot of some of the problems that we've seen on the
• 1:11:30
  offensive line, provide veteran leadership from a proven Talent.
• 1:11:35
  So we've got some leaders out there on this line, but Silas
• 1:11:38
  has been in and out of the lineup and up and down the depth
• 1:11:41
  chart his entire career. Johnny wasn't a starter last
• 1:11:45
  year. This will be a guy that was a
• 1:11:47
  three-year starter that immediately guys could respond
• 1:11:51
  to could lean on things of that nature.
• 1:11:55
  He would likely adapt better to the scheme and the adjustments
• 1:11:59
  that were needed and can help the others with that
• 1:12:02
  communication and things that were needed to kind of get
• 1:12:04
  everybody on the same page. So that's going to lift the
• 1:12:07
  running game as a whole and it would help in the passing game
• 1:12:10
  as well with some of those protection calls and some of the
• 1:12:14
  communications that's needed for those switches.
• 1:12:18
  And you mentioned Brian, how this would everything would
• 1:12:21
  benefit the Run game as a whole if he came back and I think
• 1:12:23
  that's 100% regardless what they did with him.
• 1:12:26
  Regardless, if you say, hey we're going to keep Solace at.
• 1:12:29
  We're going to, we're going to move Silas, the left tackle,
• 1:12:30
  he's going to play left tackle. And we'll see the cigar well,
• 1:12:34
  with some of those inside Powers Grand.
• 1:12:36
  I'm sure there are times you see it and you just think hatoful
• 1:12:40
  see, this will start. That whole would have opened
• 1:12:43
  immediately kind of what you're seeing from Braylon more and him
• 1:12:47
  being a Fix as a lot because he went in the fifth round he could
• 1:12:51
  have went a lot earlier shows. You sometimes guard slip but I
• 1:12:55
  think the leadership I think having him like him and Silas
• 1:12:59
  both being there and having that voice it just gives you so many
• 1:13:02
  options. Yep.
• 1:13:03
  And it's tough. Not to say that guy's not on the
• 1:13:06
  team just by himself. The team's not better when lost
• 1:13:10
  wise today. That's a right.
• 1:13:14
  So write that down, Brian and Curtis.
• 1:13:16
  We both wish lists M Smith and what if he was back.
• 1:13:20
  Now, let's go into our opposites because this is where we split.
• 1:13:23
  I'll let you lead sir. So I mean I'm an offensive line
• 1:13:28
  guys. So what do you think I'm going
• 1:13:30
  to do? I've got Luke tenuta coming back
• 1:13:33
  to play. Left tackle for as you know, how
• 1:13:35
  we said. Let's see.
• 1:13:35
  This myth could play left guard or left tackle in my scenario.
• 1:13:39
  He's playing guard because we got Luke 2 It coming back to
• 1:13:42
  play left tackle. We're side in silence over to
• 1:13:45
  write either way and it's the trickle-down benefits.
• 1:13:50
  Now, you've got a solid left side, you've got Silas on the
• 1:13:54
  right not having to have quite as many responsibilities in
• 1:13:58
  terms of protecting the quarterbacks Blindside provides
• 1:14:01
  depth in case of injuries. Now, you got Parker coming off
• 1:14:05
  your bench as the sub guy instead of having to be relied
• 1:14:08
  on every snap and it's a Upgrade in the Run blocking and it's
• 1:14:13
  more consistent past Pro. As a unit.
• 1:14:15
  I know that tenuta sometimes had, you know, little little
• 1:14:20
  lazy sets that he get beat on, but he was he's a lot more
• 1:14:24
  consistent. I think, overall, the what we've
• 1:14:26
  seen this year from both tackles, so he would definitely
• 1:14:30
  have lifted that unit as a whole and it could benefit Parker's
• 1:14:33
  development kind of sitting back another season, watching these
• 1:14:36
  guys work and kind of working in when he had the opportunity.
• 1:14:42
  Having to kind of be thrown to the Wolves a little bit this
• 1:14:44
  year and seeing how he struggled in this new system.
• 1:14:48
  I think getting a little bit more watch time a little bit
• 1:14:51
  more extra rep time instead of having to you know go out there
• 1:14:54
  and show it could have benefited him this year.
• 1:14:58
  All right? And I went completely opposite
• 1:15:01
  opposite side of the ball and to me you got to bring him re bar.
• 1:15:04
  No back. I mean the guy would immediately
• 1:15:07
  be the most Dynamic Athlete on the field and I think with him
• 1:15:11
  coming back. Back as the opposite Edge rusher
• 1:15:15
  with garbage. You'd have a dynamic duo there,
• 1:15:18
  right? You'd have to orbit who's had a
• 1:15:20
  good season. You'd have bar know who not many
• 1:15:23
  left tackles to get their hands on.
• 1:15:25
  I think you would move that room in the defense from middle of
• 1:15:28
  the ACC, kind of top 40 country, probably too near the top of the
• 1:15:32
  ACC, probably top 20, top 15 in the country having that sort of
• 1:15:38
  pass rush presence. But the other big pieces.
• 1:15:41
  If he Back it allows McRae and Nelson to develop without being
• 1:15:46
  asked to do too much and we are asking them a lot to do.
• 1:15:49
  We are we are asking them to do a lot this year.
• 1:15:52
  They've done well in spots, they had some struggles in spots so
• 1:15:55
  for me is bad as the offense has struggled.
• 1:15:58
  Yes, it's 117. Yes, we're struggling all over
• 1:16:01
  the place. What's good make?
• 1:16:04
  Great because I've seen the top 15 defense.
• 1:16:07
  Even with 100, ranked offense, when 10 games and I still think
• 1:16:13
  that can happen now. Brian.
• 1:16:15
  But other Iowa, I mean, I would say gz, but, but here's the
• 1:16:21
  thing, Brian and I want to make a Counterpoint to loosen it up.
• 1:16:25
  I think bringing the seed is back, and I think if he wasn't
• 1:16:29
  my one, if I didn't have a little cetus to neuter, Hoffman,
• 1:16:32
  one of those guys. A Mac, but I think having the
• 1:16:35
  Cedars back it automatically, because if you feel like it,
• 1:16:40
  goes back schematics, right? Well, if you playing at left
• 1:16:42
  tackle, you still start Hanson? It Garden, can let Silas and
• 1:16:45
  them battle in to your point if Parker's not clicking.
• 1:16:50
  Because Silas, playing Left For the First Time.
• 1:16:53
  Yes, he's had his moments but he's also done a decent job.
• 1:16:57
  You know, I could see the, see this doing that.
• 1:17:00
  And having Hanson and still letting more.
• 1:17:02
  Remember that your boy more little more if placitas and Luke
• 1:17:07
  come back? He is not getting the Run
• 1:17:09
  showing what he can do solidify himself for next year.
• 1:17:14
  That's a good point, but at the same time, we've got a couple of
• 1:17:22
  running backs that have shown the ability of Thomas to make
• 1:17:27
  good plays in the great plays and King to be explosive and hit
• 1:17:31
  the home run. If we give them a little bit
• 1:17:34
  more space to operate this running game can be pretty
• 1:17:38
  dynamic. So if you add in two other
• 1:17:42
  players to shore up the the weaker areas of the of the
• 1:17:46
  offensive line the trickle down to me is much more important
• 1:17:51
  than what bar? No can bring on the other side
• 1:17:55
  because I think, you know, McRae doesn't has a similar skill set.
• 1:18:01
  Not quite as Dynamic. Not quite as you know, the
• 1:18:04
  combination of size and speed a bar.
• 1:18:06
  No, but he's got a similar skills that he's pretty pretty.
• 1:18:10
  Long and pretty fast. I think what we can do on the
• 1:18:15
  offensive side will benefit us. All right?
• 1:18:17
  And see I'm on the exact opposite because I think if
• 1:18:20
  looking at the gains we've lost, you know, you'd think you talked
• 1:18:25
  about Van Dyke. There are times he just we
• 1:18:27
  couldn't get him off a spot. I think Barney would have got
• 1:18:29
  him off of spot. I think bar no would have gotten
• 1:18:33
  even though I see Carolina still as a loss.
• 1:18:35
  I think bar. No would have got intrigued me
• 1:18:37
  off a spot. I think our know would have
• 1:18:38
  helped significantly with the run defense against West
• 1:18:41
  Virginia and Much as I want to put on the offense.
• 1:18:47
  The defense did break late and could you imagine having that
• 1:18:50
  one extra Dynamic player on the field for 20 extra plays and
• 1:18:56
  where it takes the total, but we'll stop.
• 1:18:59
  There's our count printer points.
• 1:19:01
  Brian's taking the second offensive lineman Luke to new
• 1:19:03
  to. I'm taking a maribor.
• 1:19:05
  No at the edge. Alright.
• 1:19:08
  Then we got to the to where we kind of flip the coin because we
• 1:19:12
  could, they both would be good. Brian, I'll let you Since you
• 1:19:17
  want him in the coin, but I'll let you start with your guy
• 1:19:19
  first. Alright, so I'm we're targeting
• 1:19:24
  here. Wide receiver.
• 1:19:25
  Yes, we are. And I went Trey Turner here.
• 1:19:30
  I think, you know, putting him on this team, he's immediately
• 1:19:33
  wide receiver one. I appreciate what Caleb Smith is
• 1:19:36
  doing, but just trays ability to run.
• 1:19:39
  I think a different combination of routes would have helped and
• 1:19:43
  just his veteran presence would have helped.
• 1:19:46
  At this team, it would also allow Smith to operate without
• 1:19:51
  as much attention trade trade with at least draw an equal.
• 1:19:56
  You know, respect across that line, you wouldn't quite have as
• 1:20:00
  many people keying on what Caleb Smith is doing.
• 1:20:04
  If you got Trey Turner opposite them, the leadership and Veteran
• 1:20:09
  presence in the wide receiver room.
• 1:20:11
  I think that's big trade. We've definitely a leader.
• 1:20:14
  He was a guy that you could tell love the It was kind of, you
• 1:20:20
  know, a great voice in the room and it creates a, you know, he
• 1:20:25
  has a versatile skills that wide receiver, he never ended up
• 1:20:29
  becoming the, you know, the the huge presence that I think some
• 1:20:34
  people thought he would as a freshman, but he is a very, very
• 1:20:37
  solid player. Would definitely be wide
• 1:20:39
  receiver one on this team and he can do a lot of different
• 1:20:42
  things. Whether it's, you know, do stuff
• 1:20:45
  out of the back field, Old jet sweeps, all sorts of things.
• 1:20:49
  So he showed that he has the versatility to do a lot of
• 1:20:51
  different things. In an offense, I think having a
• 1:20:54
  veteran like that on the team would have been a big boost.
• 1:20:57
  Yeah. And obviously if Brian went tray
• 1:21:00
  I was on the opposite side of the coin.
• 1:21:02
  I went Kay Robinson immediate upgrade in the slot and at the
• 1:21:06
  wide receiver position cable Smith has played great this year
• 1:21:10
  at The X. So I think having Tavon there
• 1:21:14
  would be a huge up Grade, he fits the scheme.
• 1:21:18
  Well, there are a lot of things that we are seeing done with the
• 1:21:21
  other receivers that you feel like, if Taylor Robinson had
• 1:21:24
  just hung out, maybe he's not where he is with Kentucky, with
• 1:21:28
  this debts. I mean his stats in Kentucky
• 1:21:30
  this year pretty daggone good. I mean averaging over 15 and a
• 1:21:33
  half, a catch almost 400 yards and six games he is well on his
• 1:21:38
  way to easily breaking his his yards and touchdown set when he
• 1:21:44
  was with the Hokies all So that special team and don't get me
• 1:21:48
  wrong, but we haven't fumbled. But like once this year on
• 1:21:52
  special teams but with him, you know, it's Dynamic, you know, if
• 1:21:57
  you're punching to Tavian Robinson.
• 1:22:00
  You might have to leave one less guy into potentially, not block
• 1:22:03
  the pain to get down field because we know he can take them
• 1:22:06
  to the house. We know he can get you big field
• 1:22:08
  flipping returns and I think that's another really crucial
• 1:22:12
  element because you put the fear in special teams.
• 1:22:17
  And then again you mentioned what Trey I think it's the same
• 1:22:20
  with taste a versatile skill set, right?
• 1:22:22
  We saw these guys forums, we saw them do different things and
• 1:22:25
  that Woods makes them so important and it may be a reason
• 1:22:28
  we didn't bring Mitchell back his It was more than one element
• 1:22:31
  in the gain that can affect and to us we kind of discussed it,
• 1:22:36
  they were both mythical. That's why Miss.
• 1:22:38
  We literally had a coin toss who was going to talk about who
• 1:22:42
  because we look at that room Braun and what's it missing?
• 1:22:46
  It's missing like one top-end talent and Leadership.
• 1:22:50
  That's what it's missing the most.
• 1:22:52
  You know, if you got a leader and you got a top in player, you
• 1:22:55
  know, you probably turn in some of these plays that were
• 1:22:58
  missing. In the first downs in two
• 1:23:01
  touchdowns. Absolutely and and you know and
• 1:23:07
  that's what kind of stinks going through here and look at it all
• 1:23:09
  the players potentially come back, we chose three.
• 1:23:13
  It is a few players from being a better team and that's where the
• 1:23:20
  other long part of our conversation on Friday.
• 1:23:23
  When we talk was. All right, Brian, where's our
• 1:23:26
  team of our three guys, come back And I sat there and told
• 1:23:30
  you that I think Carolina's a loss regardless, I do.
• 1:23:35
  But I think if I were three players come back, I think I'd
• 1:23:38
  chalk up Carolina as a loss. I don't chalk up.
• 1:23:40
  A TOD you as a loss. I think that's a win.
• 1:23:43
  I think we would have scored a lot more points on them, and
• 1:23:45
  probably kept them. The less points with bar, no
• 1:23:47
  attacking off the edge. And then I think of one of the
• 1:23:51
  other games is, I think hit or the Miami game goes, the way of
• 1:23:55
  the Hokies with those guys, and I know we can say, well, my No.
• 1:23:59
  Excuse me. Yeah, Pitter Miami.
• 1:24:03
  All right. No not there yet.
• 1:24:04
  Mommy was your Junior. I think two of those, three go
• 1:24:06
  the Hokies way. Because if the West Virginia
• 1:24:08
  game, that was still a game going into the fourth, same with
• 1:24:12
  the pits, same with the Miami Hurricanes.
• 1:24:14
  I think we flip a couple of those because of having both
• 1:24:18
  sides of the balls present, so I think we're probably sitting
• 1:24:20
  five and two right now. And, yes, I have maroon colored
• 1:24:24
  glasses on tonight. I think we're at least four and
• 1:24:28
  three. I think we're at least above
• 1:24:29
  500. If you put those three, As back
• 1:24:33
  on this team, I think you definitely went over to you, and
• 1:24:36
  I think he probably take down Miami for sure.
• 1:24:40
  You, make pit, you know a big conversation late and you make,
• 1:24:46
  you make West Virginia, a conversation late as well.
• 1:24:51
  But the guys, I'm adding back on aren't helping the defense a
• 1:24:54
  lot. I feel like defense is what hurt
• 1:24:57
  us the most in those games. Hmm.
• 1:25:01
  So you know not be noticed Generate offense hurts but you
• 1:25:04
  know, the the defense still didn't, you came apart late?
• 1:25:08
  I think they probably still give up the same amount of points,
• 1:25:12
  and I'm not sure even with these additions if we can match that.
• 1:25:16
  But so I've got to sit for in three.
• 1:25:18
  I've got us winning ODU and winning against Miami with
• 1:25:22
  these, with these players back on the roster, all right?
• 1:25:27
  Alright. Now the last part of our
• 1:25:30
  exercise we did in this didn't take as long as it Brian.
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  What if like, six of these players come back and let's say
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  that the guys we talked about, let's say we both get that we
• 1:25:42
  get because I'll agree with Brian Luke was up close to me,
• 1:25:45
  but let's say we get Two new de. You get bar know, you get both
• 1:25:51
  wide receivers, you get, let's see this.
• 1:25:53
  That's five, right? Yeah, that's that's the five
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  that we discuss in. We said we throw Jermaine and
• 1:25:59
  there as well. And Jimmy, if you got all six of
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  our players back, where do you think we'd be?
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  I think six in one man. I think if you bring all six of
• 1:26:11
  those guys back, you know you get enough boost on the
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  defensive side where you slow down you and see a little bit
• 1:26:17
  more. It's that game becomes, close
• 1:26:19
  you, slow down West Virginia, that game becomes a w.
• 1:26:22
  You slow down pit in that game become the W.
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  So you end up six and one and then, you know, you're kind of
• 1:26:31
  in the not the driver's seat in the conference in the coastal.
• 1:26:36
  But you know, you get one extra lost by U and c.
• 1:26:40
  And now you're now you're the team to beat, right?
• 1:26:43
  So absolutely. And that's why I was fun to do
• 1:26:46
  this because you look at these guys, in their skill sets and
• 1:26:48
  where they fit, and it's even more apparent.
• 1:26:51
  As we get into the season where you're missing, then they all
• 1:26:54
  had their reasons for leaving and that was 100% fine.
• 1:26:57
  You don't fault anyone who feels like they are making the best
• 1:27:00
  decision for themselves, but it sort of sucks, though, as you
• 1:27:03
  sit here as fans as we look at this every week and we talked
• 1:27:06
  about Out guys saying God that has just come back, but on the
• 1:27:11
  other hand, the piece that me and Brian also discussed was,
• 1:27:18
  did we want 2016 to happen again?
• 1:27:22
  Does anybody want 2016 to happen again and not necessarily that
• 1:27:26
  year or the year after? But the subsequent years, right?
• 1:27:31
  The subsequent years and being on the hook for a buyout as a Of
• 1:27:36
  the subsequent years I think right now we know whatever we
• 1:27:41
  get it's being built by Brent pride in his staff.
• 1:27:44
  Yep whatever, whatever the results are good or bad going
• 1:27:50
  forward after this year. You know, Brent prize got his
• 1:27:54
  hands on it, he's got his hands on it and if you're three comes
• 1:27:57
  and we're six and six, I think we're going to look at that
• 1:28:00
  through a different light, right?
• 1:28:02
  Yeah. Then we would have like we did
• 1:28:05
  in 2018. And if 2019 we went eight or
• 1:28:08
  nine games or you know, four years from now at eight or nine
• 1:28:11
  games, it's this, it's that constant building where if all
• 1:28:14
  those guys come back and I know I think for all of us, we'd love
• 1:28:17
  to be six of them. I'd love to be talking about
• 1:28:19
  wins every week. We'd love to talk wins every
• 1:28:21
  week. That's a hell of a lot, more fun
• 1:28:22
  than talking about losses. But the reality is, if we go
• 1:28:26
  back six years, how much Isaiah Ford, Bucky Hodges.
• 1:28:31
  Cam Phillips, Tremaine Edmonds, Terrell Edmonds, all those good
• 1:28:37
  players offensive ly in defensively those first couple
• 1:28:40
  years, Jerrod Evan. Sorry gonna forgive him.
• 1:28:45
  How much they covered up a lot of warts.
• 1:28:50
  They got shown after the big contract after all.
• 1:28:54
  Other shit happened, I'll say, especially in 2017 and that
• 1:28:59
  defense, the town on that defense and how much that
• 1:29:04
  covered up. Some of the warts that were
• 1:29:07
  starting to show that year because when we look back, we're
• 1:29:10
  like, okay. Well we had a, we had an
• 1:29:13
  above-average year, but we're already starting to see the
• 1:29:16
  cracks in the foundation. And, you know, with the cracks
• 1:29:21
  in the foundation, he had 2018, there was such an exodus of
• 1:29:25
  talent that that you couldn't really.
• 1:29:28
  You know, how bad is this team is?
• 1:29:30
  Are they bad because they're younger?
• 1:29:31
  They bad, because they're not coached well, And then then you
• 1:29:36
  get to 19. You start saying, you know.
• 1:29:38
  Okay, well now we're now we're starting this guy that's
• 1:29:41
  throwing a lot of picks and we're getting blown out by Duke
• 1:29:45
  and we're taking an intervention from an analyst to get the right
• 1:29:50
  course, starting quarterback in there.
• 1:29:53
  You know, there's so many things that as you getting into year
• 1:29:56
  three and four that you start getting some answers to that you
• 1:29:59
  didn't necessarily have in year 1 and 2 and at least with the
• 1:30:03
  way we're going. Now.
• 1:30:07
  When we get to year for we're going, another will either know
• 1:30:11
  where we won't. Well, bubble.
• 1:30:13
  Also knowing it's already kind of being shown up front that you
• 1:30:17
  feel like prize already holding coaching staff accountable
• 1:30:19
  pretty quick because if you come to your form, they're still
• 1:30:23
  struggles and Tyler bonesteel. You, he fires them.
• 1:30:26
  Your three or four. Then you know you might say well
• 1:30:30
  at least he knows something's not right?
• 1:30:33
  And that could be with various things that he's letting people
• 1:30:36
  go because that's still the biggest up.
• 1:30:40
  Justin Fuente. Never took he never took that
• 1:30:44
  step when there was an issue in everybody, even Layman like me,
• 1:30:50
  who have to ask you a lot of questions to get more insight on
• 1:30:53
  the game. Can see plainly, like this is
• 1:30:56
  Good on that side of the bowl. So, it is what it is.
• 1:31:02
  All right, Brian. No, the enemy this week.
• 1:31:05
  Yeah. We don't have an enemy.
• 1:31:06
  There's no game prediction, so we don't have to go out on a
• 1:31:08
  limb. But there are some big big games
• 1:31:12
  on Saturday, and I'm going out to the wet West Coast.
• 1:31:15
  I'm going to the AUX and Zoo. Oregon UCLA.
• 1:31:19
  I'm not even looking at the line on that game.
• 1:31:22
  I'm looking at the over under the over under 70 and a half.
• 1:31:26
  These teams can both score points.
• 1:31:28
  I don't think 70 and a half closed.
• 1:31:31
  I'm gonna take the over and I slept on you sell a few weekends
• 1:31:37
  ago at home against At home against Washington and I'm gonna
• 1:31:43
  sleep on them again. I think Morgan wins this game at
• 1:31:45
  a 3:30 on Saturday. What you got on my big screen?
• 1:31:51
  I'm going to have Okie State Texas.
• 1:31:56
  Texas is a six and a half Point favorite here.
• 1:32:00
  Road favorite road favorite, road.
• 1:32:02
  Favorite over/under is 61 and a half.
• 1:32:07
  I'm going to take the over here. Both of these teams have been
• 1:32:10
  scoring some pretty pretty big numbers but not some pretty
• 1:32:13
  round numbers here lately, and I'm going to actually take okey
• 1:32:17
  state in the points here. I'm not sure if they win it
• 1:32:21
  outright, but that thing's gonna come down to the wire and I
• 1:32:24
  think Okie state is feeling a little Little bit of Need for
• 1:32:27
  some Revenge. I think after after what went
• 1:32:30
  down last week, after blowing at 14 point lead, well, Brian.
• 1:32:34
  Has anything broken on the twittersphere?
• 1:32:36
  Any other news broken, did anybody lose a baseball game?
• 1:32:42
  I don't have the game on right now.
• 1:32:43
  You tell me but I don't either I didn't turn it off or I got in
• 1:32:46
  here. We missed the fun belt.
• 1:32:48
  We could have, had the fun belt in the background here?
• 1:32:50
  That's all on me. I was rushing to get in here
• 1:32:53
  tonight, but AB State blew the doors off.
• 1:32:55
  Off. George Estate, who Yeah, the fun
• 1:33:00
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• 1:33:03
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• 1:34:23
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