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Yoreh De’ah 169:13-14. Interest: Lending Between Two Jews and a Non-Jew and Collateral, the Agent May Profit · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, OK, we're a cook. Sam Akhtar takhos ribis.
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  We're continuing with si EF yurgimo.
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  OK, a goy Shammar al yestrail love ma OT E yestrail Berry
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  beet. Oh mash koni.
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  So what's the case? There's a non Jew and he's the
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  borrower and he goes to tell a Jew, we'll call me Jew, Mr.
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  Number One, who is basically like a agent, whatever you want
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  to call the go between and he says go, I want you to get money
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  to borrow from the second Jew. The second Jew is the malve and
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  right. It's obviously the issue is
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  we're talking about Rivas over here.
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  So really Lagui is going to be borrowing from the Jew the
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  second, the second mesrela malve, the Rivas, and he does
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  it, he gives them a mashkun. A boy gives the mashkun through
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  this Shalia to go to the second Jew.
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  And that's how that works. Mozzarella malvelica Haribit
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  Miad Israel hashaliya. So now this agent, the Shalia is
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  the first Jew, the middleman. He's allowed to go transfer the
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  mashkun, take the money and then later the Jews going to be
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  handling again the mashkun and all the money with Ribis.
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  So there's going to be a transaction or handing over the
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  money from Jew to Jew with Ribis.
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  But it's because of the loan between the Jew and the non Jew.
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  But there's the Shalia is a is a Jew.
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  So is that OK? So it says over here mutter,
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  you're allowed to, but there's a caveat.
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  It could be mutter, it could be us.
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  When is it mutter? So it's a matter for the.
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  The only way it's matter is if the the, the Malva, the second
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  Jew, the malva, the lender, the Jewish lender.
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  He tells the Shaliak, this middle man, this middle Jewish
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  man, that everything we're doing it, there's all these
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  transactions, both the moshkon and the money.
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  It's in the responsibility of the of the Jew.
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  If anything happens to it, the Jew is responsible, not the
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  Shaliak. The main issue over here is a
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  Jew to a Jew. Obviously Noah's read this.
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  That's the problem. And I go to a non Jew, a non Jew
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  to a Jew. That's when it's permitted.
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  So the question is this middleman, is he acting as a
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  Shalia or first of all, is he acting on behalf of himself?
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  That would be a problem. If he's acting on behalf of the
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  of the, of the Jew, that's when it's 100% mother because the
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  shilia is just an extension. He's a shilia of the Jew.
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  And therefore it's the, the the whole transaction is going from
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  Jew to non Jew. That's, that's, that's what the
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  stipulation must be. And so therefore, if he's just a
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  shilia and a conduit of an extension of the second of the
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  malva, the Jewish malva, then there's no problem.
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  But that means the responsibility has to be in that
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  in, in the, in the Malaga, right, While the money's
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  travelling from hands to hands. Because otherwise, if the
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  shiliac is responsible, then it's then it's really looked
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  upon as if the Jew was lending to the Jew and the Jew and the
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  other, the two Jews are lending to each other and then the
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  shiliac is just making a whole new lending with Rivas to the
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  Glee. So the lending of the ribbus to
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  the goy is OK, but between the Jew and the Jew, that's a
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  problem, right? It can't be there.
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  It can't be that one Jew lends to another Jew and then the
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  second Jew lends to a goy because that would be a problem
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  when it's going from hand to hand of the Jew to the Jew.
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  That would be a problem of ribbus.
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  It has to be, or it's going straight from one Jew straight
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  to another to a goy. And so therefore, if the
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  Shiliath is acting as a Shiath of an extension of the malware,
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  then it's OK. Well, so, so we're going to have
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  a case like that. We're going to have a case with
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  they often want to have a mash gun and we'll see what happens
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  when there's no mash gun. The problem is, I mean what
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  could be the problem over here when it's not mutter is if the
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  Shalia is his own person or the Shalia is a an extension of the
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  goy. The Shalia can't be an extension
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  of the goy. It'd only be an extension of the
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  Jew because we hold our shalikhs by a Jew and we don't say
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  there's shalikhs by a non Jew. So therefore when the Shalia is
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  the middle is trying to become if you, if he would become, if
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  he would try to become a ship shiliak of the goy, we say it
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  doesn't work and therefore it's looked upon as the Jew.
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  It's a Jew to a Jew. So that's why the only way it
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  works is if the middleman, the shiliak, is a shiliak of the
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  Jewish malva and not of the. OK, now it's clear.
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  Fine. I think let's keep right.
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  We're saying a lot of we were saying there's no Sheikh
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  Lasparaga. OK, so let's go to the, I think
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  Ushi Omar one second. I want to see if I see anything.
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  OK, now this is important. Just to point out, the Shah
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  points out the shame the Bach, then maybe it's maybe a Mahalkis
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  Chauhanar and the the the shock, but the shock writes it's really
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  the from the Bach Lehadhila. You have to say in other words,
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  the mechanics, everybody agrees. What we explained until now
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  question is, do you verbally need to tell him?
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  So it kind of depends. We're going to see what
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  basically the box is like Akilo, when you're making the original
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  loan from the beginning, you should say it verbally, but it
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  doesn't have to be a verbally. As long as we know that you're
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  acting upon as the Shulia for the Jewish malaba, that's really
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  what's OK. And that's because that's what
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  you're doing as OK. But anyways, let's certainly to
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  be you'll see that everybody, you should definitely verbalize
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  it. So there's no, no question
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  whatsoever. OK, let's go to the Raga, the
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  EIN Natanaguya Mashiko and Israel Kodem Shihiba Israel
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  Mashimi. If the Goe is giving the Mashiko
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  to the Shibiya and it goes to the mauva, before there was the
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  loan afilo haya akhayuta mashkon, our Shuliya mutt
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  Rakshiya khayuta mauva. So this is a little bit of a
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  technicality or a fine detail. I don't know, maybe technicality
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  might not be the right word, but it's a little fine detail that
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  the Rama points out. Certainly when it comes to the
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  money, it for this to work, the Aquarius of the money, the
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  responsibility has to be not in the shilia.
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  Otherwise he's looked upon as an independent borrower, Judaju.
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  But he has to be a complete shilia to the malva and
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  therefore the malva has to have responsibility.
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  If anything happens to the money, the malva is really the
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  one who is who's going to lose the money.
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  OK. The the Shilia doesn't have is
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  not responsible to pay him back if someone steals it from him,
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  something I'm not talking about negligence, but basically if
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  someone and he gets robbed, who's who's responsible for it?
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  So that's the OK. But regarding the moshkon
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  itself, if the moshkon is done ahead of time first, then it's
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  OK if he's responsible for the moshkon.
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  This might be a mahogis chauhanara and neuroma.
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  It seems to be, but OK, it's a it's a, it's a discussion.
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  It's a discussion. When you say before the loan
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  even starts, the moshkon is not really relevant.
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  Who's responsible for it or not? There's no Rivas, there's no
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  loan yet. Until there's a money
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  transaction, the Moshkon is for all tents and purposes, when for
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  the purposes of Rivas, it's completely irrelevant because
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  the there's no loan yet. There's no rivers yet.
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  There's no issue yet until there's a loan.
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  And the fact that he gave over an object in advance to become a
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  Moscone, right? It was a Picardon that turns
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  into a Moscone. That's not really a problem.
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  OK, Anyway, fine, let's let's go on McCain.
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  Where are we? Right, that happens to be the
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  Eric Lechem of Marikash, who's a big swat of pussy.
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  He also agrees with the Rama on this on this issue.
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  OK, the Hein bishat pedia. Now the loan is over, it's time
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  to return the money and return with the Ribis and to right the
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  repayment and then return the Moshko.
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  This is part of the statements. I'm not sure you're saying that
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  we had a break. We had a we had a a proper
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  break. When you give the loan, tell him
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  who's who has the Aquarius. OK, now there's a period new
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  paragraph. We come back a week later, a
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  year later, whenever it's time to pay back the loan and we say
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  like this, when it comes time for the repayment, the Malvez
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  should also tell the lo the shaliyat again, say hey
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  shalukhi, you're going to begin. You're my shaliyat.
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  When you pick up the payment from the goy with the Ribes,
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  you're automatically that money. When it leaves the hands of the
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  goy, it's as if it entered the hands of the Malva because the
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  Shalia is working for the Malva and the Shalia is not
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  responsible. So too when you return the mash
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  gun, it's the Shalia has never really responsible out.
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  Now the Chelfenard just points out in the real world, it's a
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  little bit dangerous to tell the Shalia you have no
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  responsibility. So the enoma amino, if you're
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  can't really trust the Shilia's going to be super careful and
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  you want him to feel some responsibility so that he's
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  extra careful. So then yo Markov Bolivo, then
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  the Malva must in his own heart know that he's acting as a
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  Sharia for the Malva, but the shilia is not really
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  responsible. It's not he's work.
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  He's working for the malva. The ain't no it's sari klo
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  Hodil. You don't have to tell him who's
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  responsible. Oh Shi, it's in the emo or you
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  can tell him like this. Really, you're not responsible
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  because right. I want this to be mutter and I
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  can take ribis you're but I want you to know you are taking
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  responsibility. Sorry, you're not responsible,
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  but Lamaisa, you have to pay me unless you get witnesses that
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  you that it, that you were innocent and you weren't
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  negligent or whatever. The EEM Asaq came and if you did
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  so will be shot Padilla Omera Shalit.
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  No. So everything until now is OK.
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  OK, now let's get a little a new twist on to the case.
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  The EEM Asaq came will be shot Padilla omera shaliya al
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  Shalihu. Now what happens when it comes
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  time to repayment? This is a basically a little bit
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  of a a new case. You know, everything until now
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  is the same, except what happens when it comes time to repayment.
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  The non Jew, sorry, the Shalia. The Shalia, the middle man
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  doesn't want to pay rivets. He's trying to get out of paying
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  rivets, whether it's for his own personal benefit, for the goy's
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  benefit, whatever the case is, he made-up the whole thing about
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  the book. He made-up the whole thing
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  exactly. It could be that, right?
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  He made-up the whole thing. We're going to see it doesn't.
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  You may not really know the actual mitzias, but basically it
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  could be the the middle man is really the one who borrowed the
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  money, and the Jew knew that the other Jew wouldn't lend him the
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  money if he didn't get ribis. So he had to make up this
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  fictitious goy to allow him to give him a loan so he can pay
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  with ribis. Otherwise he would never lend
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  out the money. He's the only thing he's going
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  to lend it to a different goy to a goy.
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  He's not going to lend it to a Jew without ribis.
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  So this is the only way he can get this loan that he needed.
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  So that's what could be or, or whatever it is.
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  He's just trying to get out of ribis.
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  Whatever the case might be true or false, that's not exactly
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  relevant. The case is, though.
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  He's telling you I lied. He wants to keep the ribis of
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  the goy, right? Maybe he wants to steal the
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  ribis for himself. The goy paid the ribis.
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  Exactly. It could be the goy paid the
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  ribis and he doesn't want to pay the rivets to the Jew.
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  He wants to keep it for himself, right.
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  He wants to get paid for his, for his, for his work.
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  He's the middle man. He wants to get, that's how he
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  wants to get paid. This whole loan was just with
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  me. So then the Malva can say, well,
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  you told me already that it was a that there was a that there
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  was an anju involved. See, you already told me what's
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  going on. So now that you're trying to
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  undo it, I don't I don't believe you.
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  I believe what you said the first time, OK.
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  And we we know that in Adam Neyman, Alotsman Yuter Ymeyer
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  Adi. So we're going to see that a
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  person. OK, now.
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  So he's going to make the so Well, so there's a MASH gun over
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  here. So he could he keeps the MASH
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  gun. In other words, he can keep the
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  MASH gun until the guy pays. Ribbus.
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  He's not obligated to pay him back.
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  What? Well, he doesn't believe him.
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  He believes the MASH gun comes to none, Right?
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  So, So. But the Malibu doesn't have to
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  believe him. OK, Gonna what did?
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  What really happened? Nobody really knows over here,
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  but there's a the dialogue between two people and this is
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  what's going on. So the Laha is the so he says
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  what's it called? I I believe the first things you
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  said. Now the case is when you gave
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  him the loan and at the same time there was a mashgun.
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  So let's otherwise. Well, let's let's keep reading
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  anyway, to the ka ka ka no aval queche Shanielid Varasa.
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  But he says like this. You're not So you're you don't
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  want to pay me, Rivas, right? Well, I don't.
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  So he says like this. So he says like this.
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  OK, fine. I'm not going to give you back.
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  You're not paying me, so that's fine.
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  Don't pay me. I'm going to go get But this is
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  how we're going to do it. OK.
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  You're telling me you're not really a shilia, so fine, tell
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  the goy to come to me. I'm going to deal with the goy.
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  He's going to pay me the money with the Ribis and I'm going to
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  give him back the mashkam. Otherwise I'm not giving you the
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  mashkam. And he says like this Rafil
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  rafilu in me Yurzel, we shall not even if this the Shalia
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  makes a shvua, right? It doesn't need to the Malva
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  also doesn't need to make a shavua.
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  It just tells him. But here the love of the Shalia
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  tells him I'm going to make a Shiva ain't no Neman.
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  We don't believe him but Shiva doesn't even help him.
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  I feel adim idiom should show you.
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  So even if he brings witnesses that have belonged that there is
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  no Goya over here lo Mahaniki because he told them that it's
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  not his. When he took the loan, he said
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  I'm a Shalia for the goy and it's not mine.
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  And if the Lova makes the Shiva doesn't help Omna, even though
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  dad of our chicane who are Anna's I still be caught in
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  menu. I read this now if it turns out
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  that the God with the Malvern, the Jewish Malvern realizes that
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  it there really is it really belongs to the there is no
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  goyalty. He's telling the truth so he can
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  tell him I'm not going to, I'm not giving you back the
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  mushroom. But at the end of the day, if
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  you know that the Shalia can tell you the truth and there's
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  no going, you're able to find out the the mouth is not allowed
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  to take Ribbus. It's true inside the Mammalus
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  maguila, but there's an essester Isa or an Esser, depending what
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  it is. There's an Esser of Ribbus.
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  So inside the Kurdish barkle, the mouth is not allowed to take
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  the ribbus. If he knows if the guy's if the
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  guy's telling the truth, OK, but the shots isn't they can't stop
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  him from taking the ribbon, right?
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  You can't stop him from taking the ribbus because he didn't
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  mammon us but he other but he himself is not allowed to take
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  ribbus exactly which is an Israeli.
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  Yeah, Mario Maso, can you call Russia?
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  And a person who does this, he goes around taking loans, the
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  shame, a guy that doesn't exist. And then when it times take
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  time, when it's time to pay back the repayment with interest, he
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  gets out of it. So that he's called the Russia,
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  They call Zelda, Mario de Maulda Alamashka.
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  Now this is when you do the Maulda at the same time with the
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  Mauschka. And it happens at the same time
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  about you. Natano.
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  How about Lago? Now, if there's no much
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  involved, then there's a certain amount of yeah, you have,
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  there's a certain amount that we do believe in.
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  It's like a Shama and A and a Bari.
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  There's no, there's no Kenyan of the Mashgun.
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  So then the the, the Shalia or the Lokaya or the Lova, it's all
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  the same person. So then he's we do have to
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  believe him on some level at at this point.
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  And you can't force him to pay the rivets.
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  Now you could and that you could take the Rivas.
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  If you know that there is a goy. Like when he took the loan, he
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  totally pointed. He said this is the name of the
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  goy that I'm doing it with. If then, then, then he doesn't
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  get out of it. You don't call, she's lying,
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  call, she's lying and he gets out of it.
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  If he says no, there's a goy. I'm there's a goy.
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  I'm really just say Shalia, the entire dealing is 100% Jew to
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  Jew unless he gave the the guy's name or the guy was standing
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  there at the time. The the shock talks about it in
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  earlier in the sea. OK, anyway, but but if you do
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  this right, you borrow telling the guy you're going to pay him
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  Rivas and then you can find a way to get out of it.
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  So the guy can threaten you and perhaps it can lead to her.
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  And if one does so Shokanak writes is called a Russia.
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  So it depends. Anyway, I'm not going to get
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  into it. There's a little discussion in
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  their acronym when he could be called a Russia and and not OK,
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  OK, either he's we call him not really part of Israel and or if
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  you're able to call him or Russia technical Russia and I'm
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  OK side top. Fine.
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  Let's go on to Udalid. Oh boy, that took a while.
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  Udalid. Let's see if we can do this real
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  quick now the middleman, this is basically a similar case.
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  The middleman, basically the same case.
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  The middleman is this is a Jew and he's again he's, he's
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  working between the Goi and the and the Jew Juloga habero
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  letzara Goi. So he's taking the money to give
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  it to the Nanji, to the Nanji. And so the akrayas again is in
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  is the Malvi. So that it's basically the same
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  case. However, the Shariah flied a
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  little bit when he when he gave information between the Jew and
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  the Nanju, he gave two different amounts for Ribbus.
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  He gave one higher and 1 lower and they wouldn't know about it.
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  And the difference he would pocket on the way, right?
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  He want to say he wanted to make money.
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  So he tells the guy, you know, you have to pay let's say 10%
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  and he tells the Jew you're only getting 5%.
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  That's what the agreement is. And so no one knows about it
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  except this middle man. And the middle man is the one
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  who pockets this 5%. That's basically the case.
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  So he's social level. Makharov said.
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  Fagoy vekhatsa magoy already Bioke.
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  We told them more, the IMA Israel Malvin, he tells the
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  Malva Katsa Pakos, he says the agreement is on the lower
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  interest, right? We just said let's say 10 versus
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  5%, whatever it is, Zakhalova, the Shalia is able to keep the
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  money. The Masha Katsavi Nagoya Terry
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  Masha Katsavi Maistra, that delta that 5% is able to keep
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  for himself, fine, Ava IM Katsavi Malva bioche Alana.
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  If he told the Malva more, let's say the same or more really,
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  then I mean OK either way this the case is more but really it's
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  the same idea. The Hagui Aram and the non Jew
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  is becoming a tough guy. It's becoming strong and says
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  leave me alone. I'm not paying the Ribis or I'm
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  not paying the full amount, whatever it is.
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  Otherwise I'm going to beat you up the Inorota Llufraulova
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  mikisa. So then the amount the the
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  Shalia doesn't pay from his pocket because he's not or
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  doesn't have to pay from his pocket because he's not
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  responsible, right? But that was the the whole
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  premise is the the Shalia is not responsible for the GOI.
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  The just like it's the same case as you'd gimmel.
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  So therefore all the responsibility was on the Malva.
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  Otherwise it would have been so that this way the the Shalia was
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  just working for the Malva. The Shilea doesn't work for the
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  goy, otherwise it wouldn't be a problem.
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  As we just explained, Hagar viesh omrim the tsariah
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  khalovili fro alo mikiso El inhisquilo shame hagoy tequila
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  as pater milushali alo mikiso. So that some say no, that Shilea
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  is actually going to be responsible unless he's singled
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  out and named who the Goi is at the time of the Hava.
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  So basically it's just a little bit of a repeat of what we said
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  before. It's just very important that
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  the Shalia doesn't say I'm going to be responsible to pay the
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  Rebit and the Karen because otherwise it becomes like the
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  the Jew to a Jew. That's one transaction stop.
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  And then there's a separate transaction of the shiliac to
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  the to the goy, because that would be a problem of handing
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  over ribis from Jew to Jew. It has to be a smooth 11
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  transaction from a Jew to a non Jew.
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  And the shiliac is only an extension of the Jew, right?
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  Basically what we said before. The Lomar yeah, Ella Takilotava
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  Srihaliot with Sarafagori. I don't know.
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  IMA Shalih Balituda Mashkun in Mantova.
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  Much of the couple of men who care in very beat.
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  Now if the Shalia comes to to to redeem the Mashkun, he's allowed
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  to the Mashkun. He's allowed to go buy it.
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  It's just like any normal transaction.
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  He's not, he's not. He's just he's just buying the
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  mashkun back. Even though the mashkun got more
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  expensive because of the rebeat. It's just a purchase.
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  It's not a problem. Miudaka, Shammel, Brunzo, Niv,
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  Toto, Merit Sono. But it has to be that he's
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  willing to sell him the mashkun because then it's a normal sale.
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  It's not forced. If it's forcing, then it's could
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  be that shows that you're acting as independent.
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  But if if the non Jew, if the Jew wants to sell the mashgun,
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  then that's OK. I will impose A Shalia Michelo
• 28:02
  Harvey Ramaoud. But if he's but if it's could be
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  inappropriate, if he does this intentionally, the whole plan
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  was he's going to do it like this, then that's the problem in
• 28:22
  a Shalia Corozo le Toto. And if the mauve is tired of the
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  loan and he wants his mash, he wants he's forcing him to buy
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  back the mash gun, then that's then he he's not allowed to.
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  He can't force the Shalia. The loan was and the mash gun is
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  a deal between the the Mauve and the Goya.
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  He can't, again like we just said, the Shalia who's working
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  for the mall, but he can't force the the Shalia the mall but
• 28:51
  can't force the Shalia to pay him back.
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  OK.