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Speaker 1: Tonight, are shocking you warning about house prices After the
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Speaker 1: government's bungling and the ABC scandals, they deepened with a
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Speaker 1: liar exposed and even labor ministers now turning on the
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Speaker 1: national broadcast. That plus the amazing lies of the youngest
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Speaker 1: black professor appointed by Cambridge and the dangerous rise of
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Speaker 1: another anti Israel socialist politician in the US. Plenty more
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Speaker 1: coming up, including Matt Canavan. But first, Australia's been destroyed
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Speaker 1: by the new tribalism and by turning us back on
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Speaker 1: reason simply, we're getting more stupid and divided. First, a
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Speaker 1: small example to start with, but it's a telling one.
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Speaker 1: The reaction here to news that one of Elon Musk's
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Speaker 1: spent SpaceX rockets is going to hit the moon tonight.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, this is our Space Technology and Industry institute.
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Speaker 1: It's at the Swinburne Institute, University of Technology. Will someone
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Speaker 1: please think of the Aborigines.
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Speaker 2: The moon is something that's fascinated us. You know, it's
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Speaker 2: deeply rooted to Indigenous you know, sky country and storytelling,
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Speaker 2: and so we want to respect the fact that this
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Speaker 2: is not just something for us to go and explore.
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Speaker 1: It's just getting too much, isn't it. I mean, there's
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Speaker 1: a limitation that we've got to keep in mind as
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Speaker 1: we explore space. You know, is the moon now also
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Speaker 1: the traditional land of some Aboriginal tribe, Which brings me
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Speaker 1: to the latest trend in that game. Back in eighteen
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Speaker 1: thirty five, John Batman famously met eight elders of the
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Speaker 1: Rundery and Boomerang people's and made what he thought was
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Speaker 1: a deal to buy the site of what became Melbourne
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Speaker 1: in exchange for things like blankets, knives, Tomahawk's mirrors, flower
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Speaker 1: things like that. Andthis now sins that Batman took advantage
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Speaker 1: of the elders. Maybe they were right, or they say
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Speaker 1: the elders just thought he was paying tribute, not actually
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Speaker 1: buying their land. Whatever. Here is the earliest picture of
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Speaker 1: that deal Batman with the Aboriginal elders, unmistakably Aboriginal elders,
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Speaker 1: has painted some fifty years after the event. Well, yesterday
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Speaker 1: the Federal Court held its first case management hearing on
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Speaker 1: a massive claim to Melbourne's public lands by people who
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Speaker 1: now identify as Aborigines and claimed to be the traditional
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Speaker 1: owners of the land that Batman thought had bought nearly
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Speaker 1: two centuries ago. Got to say that hearing did not
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Speaker 1: go well. This massive land claim over not just Melbourne,
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Speaker 1: but the land between nearly Dalsford to Warregal is contested
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Speaker 1: by people have no fewer than four other tribes, all
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Speaker 1: saying the Ungerie we we're trying to claim some of
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Speaker 1: their own land. Anyway has been sent away for mediation
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Speaker 1: before we can go further. But you know it's no
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Speaker 1: wonder there is a feeding frenzy here because this single
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Speaker 1: claim includes having a say over, for instance, the Melbourne
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Speaker 1: Cricket Ground, Government House, Melbourne Zoo, and more than two
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Speaker 1: hundred parks and gardens and that's just in the city
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Speaker 1: of Melbourne alone, and that includes of course the Botanic
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Speaker 1: Gardens and you know the Royal Park. So this has
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Speaker 1: turned into a lawyer's picnic that's costing heaven knows what
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Speaker 1: in legal fees, and most of that I am certain
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Speaker 1: will be paid by taxpayers. I mean, just listened to
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Speaker 1: this from the Herald Sun report. The court room was
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Speaker 1: full to the brim with barrisses representing indigenous corporations. The
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Speaker 1: stated and come with commercial fishing interests. Giant was that
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Speaker 1: and nearly twenty local councils, in the chamber and online.
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Speaker 1: What a circus? So who are the aborigin is behind
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Speaker 1: this scrab for so much public land nearly two hundred
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Speaker 1: years later, giving them influence over water resources, how parks
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Speaker 1: and reserves are managed, how fire reduction burns are done well.
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Speaker 1: They claim to be the sentence of the Runtrey. We're
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Speaker 1: arung totally at most fifteen hundred people. But how strong
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Speaker 1: is their connection to the land, to Aboriginal ways and traditions,
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Speaker 1: and how different are they really to the rest of
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Speaker 1: us that they've got to have this superior claim to
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Speaker 1: what I'd consider the land of all Australians. And when
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Speaker 1: I checked, of course left again with the thought that seriously,
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Speaker 1: this racial division, it's not just dangerous and insulting, but
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Speaker 1: increasingly simply preposterous. The Veronjerie Warung are represented in this
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Speaker 1: case by eleven claimants, of whom four are most often
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Speaker 1: quoted in the media. There's a Perry wand in a
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Speaker 1: Cultural Heritage officer, average bureaucrat darker who was inducted into
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Speaker 1: the Victorian Aboriginal Honor roll. Are this law graduate.
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Speaker 3: It's important to us that we have a say in
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Speaker 3: the lands and waters that we have been caring for
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Speaker 3: for generations. And obviously this is incredibly proud moment for
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Speaker 3: our mob. And yeah, it's about that recognition.
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Speaker 1: The fourth of these Aborigines is Andrew Gardner, now better
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Speaker 1: known as Hassan Gardener, with his wife next to him there. Yes,
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Speaker 1: he is Muslim, although he seems to me to be
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Speaker 1: trying to have it a bit both ways.
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Speaker 4: I humble to be tonight to do the Welcome the
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Speaker 4: country as a Worndri Almo, who also has an also
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Speaker 4: the similarities between Aberginal spirituality and Islamic practice, is the
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Speaker 4: one creator spirit, the separate men's and women's business, his
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Speaker 4: family traditions around country and marriage and ceremony, and there's
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Speaker 4: respect for others as knowledge holders and cultural authorities.
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Speaker 1: And then there are the other claimants who include Margaret Parisi,
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Speaker 1: the first Nation's Garden City Ambassador for the City of Melbourne,
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Speaker 1: Michelle Mills who does cultural tours and Daniel Ross who
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Speaker 1: does Welcome the Country, and Kathleen Terik of Victoria's First
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Speaker 1: People's Assembly. Let me stress that I am not not
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Speaker 1: do not read between the lines any future judge saying
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Speaker 1: that these people do not have some Aboriginal ancestry. I
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Speaker 1: am not saying they have no right to call themselves
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Speaker 1: originally under the present official definitions. I mean, knock themselves out,
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Speaker 1: go your hardest. I'm just wondering how different these people
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Speaker 1: really are from the rest of us. Now, yes, almost
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Speaker 1: all have Aboriginal jobs. But can this spiritual connection to
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Speaker 1: Melbourne really be so much deeper that they have a
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Speaker 1: greater right to Melbourne's public lands than the five million
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Speaker 1: non were UNDERI who live there too and love it,
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Speaker 1: many born here, and I just say enough, please, please enough.
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Speaker 1: To me, it's no wonder so many Australians attorney to
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Speaker 1: one nation when we have this. Let Australia's public lands
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Speaker 1: be owned by all Australians race totally irrelevant. Isn't that
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Speaker 1: our best future? The ABC is today facing two scandals,
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Speaker 1: not just the Gina Reinhardt one, which I have to
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Speaker 1: say just got even worse for the national broadcast. I'll
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Speaker 1: getting into that soon, but the latest one involves Mahmoud Fazal,
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Speaker 1: a former Underworld figure that the ABC hired as a
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Speaker 1: reporter for some bizarre reason and then had to fire.
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Speaker 1: Kel Saprize for an unethical behavior. Last night, the ABC's
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Speaker 1: Media Watch revealed and Good on Them revealed that Fazal
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Speaker 1: had also hired a friend to pretend to be a
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Speaker 1: drug dealer for reports on the ABC's Four Corners and
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Speaker 1: a background briefing this friend.
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Speaker 2: I realized that working in the corporate world in cocaine
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Speaker 2: really works well together.
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Speaker 3: Glad to see dollars, dollars, dollars, and.
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Speaker 1: That friend has now admitted she isn't a drug dealer.
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Speaker 1: She was just paid to pretend played a role that
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Speaker 1: they needed.
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Speaker 3: You know, when people need roles played in certain docos
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Speaker 3: and that, and there's people who looked apart they can
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Speaker 3: fill it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what was happening.
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Speaker 6: I earned a nice paycheck off that a.
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Speaker 7: Very nice one.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, those things aren't as accurate and as real
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Speaker 2: as you think they are.
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Speaker 1: Guess who paid that nice paycheck. That's three strikes now,
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Speaker 1: by the way, for the ABC's Four Corners before this,
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Speaker 1: it added six gun shots the footage from Afghanistan to
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Speaker 1: make you seeing the Australian soldier Houston Russell was firing
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Speaker 1: at unarmed Afghans. Then a single warning shot becomes six
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Speaker 1: good expose a there by Channel seven and ABC. Four
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Speaker 1: Corners reported Louise Milligan headed the witch hunt, which eventually
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Speaker 1: saw Cardinal George Pearl jailed and plainly false charges of
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Speaker 1: raping two boys at once in a busy cathedral. And so,
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Speaker 1: of course the High Court unanimously freed Pell. So there's
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Speaker 1: something very wrong at four Corners, but also with the
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Speaker 1: water ABC. In fact, today the ABC came under even
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Speaker 1: more intense pressure on the other big scandal it is battling.
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Speaker 1: It's now more than two weeks since I broke the
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Speaker 1: story about how the ABC violently abused mining billionaire Gena
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Speaker 1: Reinhart by screening this short film.
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Speaker 7: Because when the revolution comes, will you hide under your
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Speaker 7: bed or will you know exactly how to shove a
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Speaker 7: stick right off Geena Reinhart's bottle, stirring it around Nixinger
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Speaker 7: gots up nice and smooth.
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Speaker 1: Now the filmmaker eventually issued a partial apology, yet the
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Speaker 1: ABC management still refuses to yeah. It even first defended
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Speaker 1: that's defended from the top and eventually said it won't
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Speaker 1: be commenting further. While it's ombudsman takes a second look
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Speaker 1: as if chairman Kim Williams and Managing director Hugh Marx,
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Speaker 1: as I said yesterday, as if these two guys still
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Speaker 1: need an expert to tell them that talking about sodomizing
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Speaker 1: a woman with a stick is actually bad. Well today
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Speaker 1: they heard that for free from two more ministers of
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Speaker 1: the labor right, the left wing of the Albanezer government.
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Speaker 1: There's still silent shame on them, but at least Deputy
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister Richard Miles and Employment Minister Amanda Rishworth both
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Speaker 1: said the ABC bosses refused to that this film was
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Speaker 1: sick and must be removed from the ABC website.
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Speaker 8: The ABC has its editorial independence. We respect that, but
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Speaker 8: we do think that it is appropriate that the ABC
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Speaker 8: has referred this to the Onwardsman and I'm surprised that
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Speaker 8: this video is still on its site.
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Speaker 5: Are you calling for it to be removed?
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Speaker 8: Well, I'm surprised that it's there. This is as the
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Speaker 8: video has been described to me. It is utterly unacceptable.
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Speaker 9: I have not seen it and it is also only
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Speaker 9: been described from now.
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Speaker 5: I just echo the words of the.
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Speaker 3: Acting Prime Minister that from what's been described to me,
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Speaker 3: it is unacceptable.
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Speaker 6: I think we do need to demonstrate respect for women.
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Speaker 1: Still lack of curiosity, not to go and check it out.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a scan, this is the national
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Speaker 1: broadcast one point two billion of our money. But that
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Speaker 1: is now five Albanezi ministers of the labor right who
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Speaker 1: have criticized the ABC film. Like I said, not one
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Speaker 1: of Anthony Albenese's labor left faction, including himself, have done so,
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Speaker 1: not that I have heard. They're still put in their
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Speaker 1: tribe above any principle. Joining me is our Tuesday regular
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Speaker 1: Senator Matt Canavan, now the leader of the Federal Nationals.
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Speaker 1: Of course, Matt Canavan, great to see you. Look, five
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Speaker 1: labor ministers say that film was wrong, the filmmakers apologize,
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Speaker 1: yet the ABC to this day refuses to what does
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Speaker 1: that tell you.
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Speaker 10: Well, my patients with the ABC is running out, Andrew,
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Speaker 10: it's been a bit late for the labor ministers to
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Speaker 10: come out to myself and other Liberal and National members
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Speaker 10: apartment of criticizing this last week. It's just so vile
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Speaker 10: to hear that broadcast on our national broadcaster. I just
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Speaker 10: don't see how in any way you have to refer
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Speaker 10: this to an obbits. It is sick, is vile, and
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Speaker 10: it should have no place on a national TV. Nonetheless
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Speaker 10: on our publicly funded broadcaster. The management of the ABC
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Speaker 10: should be accountable. They should make decisions, that's what they.
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Speaker 1: Pay to do.
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Speaker 10: This should be removed from the website. There should be
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Speaker 10: a full and frank apology to both the Australian people
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Speaker 10: who fund the ABC and to Miss Ryan Hut in particular.
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Speaker 11: No one deserves to be a.
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Speaker 10: Threat or joked about in this sort of way. It's
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Speaker 10: absolutely reprehensible. And look, honestly, if the ABC can't do that, well,
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Speaker 10: the government should be sacking the management of the ABC
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Speaker 10: because this is just a basic it's just a basic
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Speaker 10: test of decency. Is absolutely unbelievable that no action has
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Speaker 10: been taken. What are we be a week or so
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Speaker 10: on from this? What the hell is the ABC waiting for.
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Speaker 1: Two weeks? Actually, look, I have to say I agree
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Speaker 1: with you on the sacking because if someone there now
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Speaker 1: clearly is refusing to see that this is unacceptable and
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Speaker 1: must be removed instantly and apologized for that person is
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Speaker 1: not fit to be trusted with judgments and ABC standards.
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Speaker 1: They have got to go. It has got to that point.
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Speaker 1: They can't say oh I didn't know. They have known
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Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks and yet they still defend
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Speaker 1: it got to go. Is that not the case.
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Speaker 11: It's just basic decency, Andrew.
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Speaker 10: I mean, if you can't hold basic standards up, that
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Speaker 10: should be I mean, I just can't even believe we're
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Speaker 10: having a discussion of debate about this. It's as soon
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Speaker 10: as you see it and hear it as you've just
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Speaker 10: played again. Just make a decision, guys, Just do it.
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Speaker 10: Do your job. You don't need to refer this to
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Speaker 10: a nobudsman. Action needs to be taken.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Ahead needs to roll at least one, probably more. Mccanavan,
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Speaker 1: can you just tell me why the cost has never
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Speaker 1: said that the ABC should be privatized, turned into a
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Speaker 1: subscription service like News twenty four. Why am I in
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Speaker 1: every taxpayer force to fund it when, as you know,
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Speaker 1: it's turned into a fortress of the left, when it
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Speaker 1: by charters should be impartial. I think it's unreformable. Why
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Speaker 1: haven't you said turn into a subscription service you want
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Speaker 1: it pay for it?
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Speaker 10: Well, I'm not sure how it could be privatized. It
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Speaker 10: costs money, so I don't know who would pay for
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Speaker 10: it in terms of subscription service. Look, there are aspects
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Speaker 10: of the ABC that are important here in Rockhampton Central
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Speaker 10: Coins and they're great journalists and they do a good
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Speaker 10: job covering local news. It's become more important as commercial
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Speaker 10: news organizations have shrunk given economic circumstances. I'd love them
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Speaker 10: to be better and better resourced. I don't think they
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Speaker 10: get enough resources, but that's important. I suppose, Andrew, I'm
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Speaker 10: sympathetic to the opposite approach. I think we need more
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Speaker 10: Australian news going to Australian households, and why not have
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Speaker 10: News twenty four now as it's known, available to all
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Speaker 10: Australian households on an equal footing as the ABC and
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Speaker 10: then people can have their choice. Now, some of us
16:37
Speaker 10: in Rockhampton, say, or in regional areas can do that. Thankfully,
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Speaker 10: your show and others are on freeware TV. But that's
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Speaker 10: not the case in the metropolitan areas. So why shouldn't
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Speaker 10: it be equal across the country.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're a hive off the country branch fund that
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Speaker 1: for the rest they make it a subscription service. They
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Speaker 1: say that the most the branding news. I don't believe it.
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Speaker 1: But let them put their money where their mouth is,
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Speaker 1: or someone else's money where their mouth is. Two poles
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Speaker 1: today Matt in Victoria good news for the coalition down there,
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Speaker 1: both show about the same support for the three leading parties,
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Speaker 1: although Labour's going in different directions. Redbridge Poles support for
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Speaker 1: the Coalition now to thirty percent after Labour dumped its premiere,
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Speaker 1: Labour down to twenty three, One Nation down a lot
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Speaker 1: to twenty two percent. Fresh World also Coalition thirty percent,
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Speaker 1: Labor up since the leadership changed to twenty five, and
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Speaker 1: again One Nation down to twenty two. What should the
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Speaker 1: Coalition take from that? And I mean not just about
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Speaker 1: Victoria but federally.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: Look well, Andrew, I think we can all take from
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Speaker 10: this the fact that the poles are very volatile right down.
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Speaker 10: You probably shouldn't read too much in to one pole.
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Speaker 10: I think sometimes there's a fairly reflexive response to individual polls.
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Speaker 10: When we're so long from say, the next federal election.
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Speaker 10: Terms of federal locations, things can change quickly, as they
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Speaker 10: have over the past year. The other lesson here, I
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Speaker 10: think is as people get close to election, an election
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Speaker 10: in Victoria where I clearly think most Victorians want change,
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Speaker 10: When a new government, then understandably the focus will turn to, well,
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Speaker 10: who's going to be that alternative government, who will be
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Speaker 10: the alternative premier, who's going to make up the alternative cabinets?
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Speaker 10: And give credit to Jess Wilson and Danny O'Brien, the
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Speaker 10: Liberals and Nationals.
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Speaker 11: I've been working very hard for the past year or so.
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Speaker 10: Jess has covered every seat through Victoria and I think
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Speaker 10: showing that she's got what it takes to lead that state.
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Speaker 11: So the lesson for us is the same. We've got
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Speaker 11: to work very hard.
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Speaker 10: I was out traveling all through regional Queensland with Angus
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Speaker 10: Taylor last week. We've got to have a detailed plan
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Speaker 10: which we were selling last week, to lower taxes, lower
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Speaker 10: energy prices and have less migration, to improve australas living
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Speaker 10: standards show that we can manage to show better and
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Speaker 10: as people turn to that decision about who should be
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Speaker 10: the next government of Australia, well we'll put ourselves in
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Speaker 10: the best position if we do those things.
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Speaker 1: Keep your head and grind it out absolutely. Macanavan, thank
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Speaker 1: you so much for your time last night. By the way,
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Speaker 1: it was talking about the housing crisis, I just got
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Speaker 1: the news just got worse than that front. You know,
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Speaker 1: house price had been falling in nearly every capital city
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Speaker 1: except Darwin, in Melbourne and Sydney by more than four percent.
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Speaker 1: The NAB predicted that this will be a result of
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Speaker 1: the government's budget, you know, cutting Neavy, of gearing the
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Speaker 1: couple gainstacks discount. It's now issued another warning. I think
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Speaker 1: it's frightening. Listen to this. We see prices across the
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Speaker 1: A capital cities declining five percent over this year it
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Speaker 1: had thought two percent, led by about ten percent declines
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Speaker 1: in Sydney Melbourne, ten percent falls in house prices there.
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Speaker 1: This government has got a real crisis on its hands
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Speaker 1: and I think it's going to need to do something
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Speaker 1: very very fast to fix that after the break. Anthony
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Speaker 1: Easy meanwhile not surprisingly blasted by his former economics advisor,
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Speaker 1: and in the US the rise of a new Israel
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Speaker 1: hating socialist politician that shows something very dangerous is happening
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Speaker 1: on the left there as well. The rise of socialism
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Speaker 1: and real socialism in the West is now quite frightening.
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Speaker 1: I mean he we've got a socialist left Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: Anthony Albanezi, whose former economics advisor Alex Sanchez has just
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Speaker 1: given alban Ezi a blast for keeping taxes too high
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Speaker 1: and spending too much, wasting money propping up pet industries
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Speaker 1: and now belting investors with its changes to capital gains
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Speaker 1: tax rules. It's quite the spray, even said of the
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Speaker 1: alban Ezy government. Sometimes you sort of think you could
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Speaker 1: be with the Greens at times, So there's a problem there,
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Speaker 1: but it is creeping. Socialism is getting especially frightening in
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Speaker 1: a America of all places, with real socialists being pre
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Speaker 1: selected for the Democratic Party for the next selection for Congress,
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Speaker 1: particularly in New York. You've got people they're sharing a
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Speaker 1: real hatred for Israel as well, and now the latest
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Speaker 1: of them, the hot favorite to win the Democratic nomination
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Speaker 1: tonight in Michigan for the US Senate, the Muslim son
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Speaker 1: of Egyptian immigrants, Abdul l sayed, the.
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Speaker 12: Biggest danger to capitalism was never a government regulation.
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Speaker 1: It was monopoly.
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Speaker 12: So I want to break up the biggest companies.
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Speaker 1: And like I said, it's an Israel hater fuse falsely
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Speaker 1: accusing it of genocide and apartheid and demanding an end
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Speaker 1: to US military aid. And where is that goal.
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Speaker 9: To a foreign goverment that's done genocide and apartheid.
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Speaker 13: And now I was taken a war for the goal
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Speaker 13: of nsing Southern Lomana.
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Speaker 1: As joined earlier by Seawan Speiser, Donald Trump's first White
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Speaker 1: House Press Secretary. Sew and Spice are always great to
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Speaker 1: talk to you. Look, you know we've talked before about
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Speaker 1: the rise of socialism in America. It's just quite frightening
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Speaker 1: to me. But now we have this vote overnight, our
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Speaker 1: time to become the Democrat nominee to be the next
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Speaker 1: Senator for Michigan. Now the front runner is the anti
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Speaker 1: Israel hard lift Muslim abdul Assayed. What is at stake here?
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Speaker 12: Well, it's so interesting.
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Speaker 14: You wonder why people in Australia might care about this,
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Speaker 14: And I'll tell you why, because they've had some success.
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Speaker 14: These Democrat Socialists of America DSA candidates in niche places
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Speaker 14: New York City and just outside of Boulder, Colorado on clave,
22:51
Speaker 14: but in mayor's races and in congressional districts.
22:55
Speaker 12: But this is a statewide race in Michigan. But here's
22:58
Speaker 12: the even more important part.
22:59
Speaker 14: In the Democratic National Committee, the DNC just added Michigan
23:05
Speaker 14: to its list of early primary states to help choose
23:09
Speaker 14: its next nominee for President of the United States, Meaning
23:12
Speaker 14: when l sidied wins and becomes the Democratic nominee.
23:16
Speaker 12: He has already made it very clear that.
23:19
Speaker 14: He intends to use that position to leverage the leading
23:23
Speaker 14: candidates for President of the United States on the Democratic side,
23:27
Speaker 14: who will all want to be coming through Michigan to
23:30
Speaker 14: avow or disavow, hopefully in his case, I think he
23:33
Speaker 14: wants them to avow this socialist agenda.
23:37
Speaker 12: So you think about it.
23:37
Speaker 14: The Pete Bootages, the Gavin Newsom's, the Kamala Harris's, They're
23:41
Speaker 14: all going to want to campaign in Michigan this November
23:45
Speaker 14: because they want to get a head start on the
23:47
Speaker 14: primary for next year when Michigan's going.
23:49
Speaker 12: To play a role. So that means they have to
23:51
Speaker 12: stand next to it and alongside l.
23:53
Speaker 14: Sideied and talk about this far left, extreme agenda, which
23:58
Speaker 14: by the way, includes things like abolishing the President of
24:01
Speaker 14: the United States, abolishing the United States Senate, packing the
24:06
Speaker 14: United States Supreme Court, getting rid of the Ice Agency,
24:11
Speaker 14: defunding police. So you know, for anyone who considers himself
24:15
Speaker 14: a normal Democrat, they are going to get dragged to
24:17
Speaker 14: the extreme crazy left.
24:20
Speaker 1: Now this I'll say it says no, no, no, I'm
24:23
Speaker 1: not a socialism not associated with the Democratic Socialist No, no, no, no,
24:27
Speaker 1: although he did raise money for them, right, he wasn't
24:31
Speaker 1: fundraisers for them, has been backed by them. What do
24:35
Speaker 1: you think is this real agenda? Here? Is it that socialists?
24:38
Speaker 1: This is it that hard anti Israel line? Is he
24:42
Speaker 1: as benign as he's trying to make himself out to be.
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Speaker 12: No, no, no, no, no no. Let's just be clear.
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Speaker 14: He's trying to win, and so he was very proud
24:51
Speaker 14: of the label during the early parts of the primary
24:54
Speaker 14: when it was where the enthusiasm in the base of
24:57
Speaker 14: the Democratic Party was, and that is like, what's going
25:00
Speaker 14: to propel him to victory? Now, just to be clear,
25:03
Speaker 14: then he has to pivot to the center. So what
25:05
Speaker 14: he's doing now is recognizing that he's probably up double
25:09
Speaker 14: digits over his primary opponent, he's going to win, he
25:12
Speaker 14: will be the nominee, and he's already starting to tack
25:15
Speaker 14: back towards at least less of the crazy center. So
25:19
Speaker 14: it's not that he's disavowing all of it, but he
25:21
Speaker 14: understands that the label is not helpful in Michigan, which
25:25
Speaker 14: I think is a blue leaning state. It's not blue,
25:29
Speaker 14: but it's definitely not red. And I think he's trying
25:34
Speaker 14: to salvage that because there are Democrats in Michigan right
25:38
Speaker 14: now elected members of Congress that are saying he's too
25:41
Speaker 14: extreme for them. So he's trying to soften his position
25:44
Speaker 14: ahead of the general election to try to be able
25:47
Speaker 14: to make this race against Mike Rodgers, the Republican nominee,
25:50
Speaker 14: more competitive.
25:52
Speaker 12: So that's simply what he's doing.
25:53
Speaker 14: He's not disavowing the agenda, he just recognizes the brand sucks.
25:58
Speaker 1: Well such just in a one on one race. But
26:01
Speaker 1: once he gets into Washington, if he does, my goodness,
26:05
Speaker 1: there's a few of them there now, are Democrats well
26:07
Speaker 1: andrew socialists or socialists adjacent?
26:12
Speaker 14: Yes, But also l Sied has also started to talk
26:15
Speaker 14: about the fact that when he gets to Washington. I
26:17
Speaker 14: don't think he will, but he is saying that he's
26:20
Speaker 14: going to take on other Democrats like John Fetterman of
26:23
Speaker 14: Pennsylvania in back primary opponents to them. So the Democratic
26:28
Speaker 14: establishment I think is rightly scared. They allowed this to
26:31
Speaker 14: grow in a fester and they suddenly realized that the
26:34
Speaker 14: Frankenstein that they created in the lab is actually going
26:37
Speaker 14: to walk and talk on its own. It's almost like
26:39
Speaker 14: the AI computers that can now think on their own.
26:45
Speaker 1: Well, talking about Frankenstein's and I have computers that can
26:48
Speaker 1: think on their own. Great analogy. The mayor of New York,
26:52
Speaker 1: Zori Mandani, I mean he is, you know, of course,
26:56
Speaker 1: the first of these guys and one is there the mayor.
27:01
Speaker 1: He's worked out one of the problems with socialism, like
27:04
Speaker 1: golly gosh, you saw this coming, you know, or in
27:07
Speaker 1: this case as a communist initiative. Now you and I
27:10
Speaker 1: we've discussed before, these new government controlled supermarkets which are
27:15
Speaker 1: meant to sell food at very cheap government set prices,
27:20
Speaker 1: obviously subsidized by textpas. Now he's had to insist that
27:24
Speaker 1: shoppers show their ID to prove they are locals, to
27:28
Speaker 1: stop others coming in to step up the bag. In
27:31
Speaker 1: the series, this.
27:32
Speaker 3: Is a program for New Yorkers to be able to
27:35
Speaker 3: put food on the table, not a program.
27:37
Speaker 12: For people to be able to make a quick buck
27:39
Speaker 12: through reselling.
27:40
Speaker 1: The sean space of what does that tell you?
27:43
Speaker 14: Well, it is funny, right, So they're going to create
27:45
Speaker 14: these stores, five of them mark prices down thirty percent
27:49
Speaker 14: from which is again, you're screwing all of these bodegas.
27:52
Speaker 14: If you ever go through New York City, you'll see
27:54
Speaker 14: these bodegas that are like little corner supermarkets, and these
27:58
Speaker 14: are family owned for the most part, sometimes generations.
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Speaker 12: Most of them don't have a very high profit margin.
28:04
Speaker 14: So now you're going to compete with those folks, knock
28:06
Speaker 14: them out of business. They're already probably struggling to pay rent,
28:09
Speaker 14: to pay their employees to stay afloat.
28:12
Speaker 12: And now what are you doing.
28:13
Speaker 14: You're trying to figure out how do you prevent people
28:15
Speaker 14: from New Jersey and other places in New York from
28:17
Speaker 14: coming in and buying up all the supply because it's
28:20
Speaker 14: going to be marked down thirty percent less. And what's
28:22
Speaker 14: their response, Well, we're going to require a photo ID,
28:25
Speaker 14: the same photo ID that the Democrats writ large or
28:28
Speaker 14: saying that it should never be used to be a
28:31
Speaker 14: means to test whether someone can vote, But now you're
28:34
Speaker 14: going to use it to figure out whether they can
28:35
Speaker 14: buy food at thirty percent off.
28:38
Speaker 12: There's so many places to go with this, Andrew, I mean,
28:40
Speaker 12: it is just an abject policy failure.
28:43
Speaker 14: It's going to hurt so many New Yorkers, and then
28:45
Speaker 14: it's unbelievably hypocritical at the same time.
28:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny, isn't it. The argument against using photo
28:52
Speaker 1: id IDs to vote is are the poor don't have
28:55
Speaker 1: the ideas? These shops are meant to help the poor,
28:58
Speaker 1: so they do have IDs to actually survive, you know,
29:01
Speaker 1: eat to survive, but they don't need to vote. This
29:04
Speaker 1: happening or there just quickly Sean Gianni Infantino, the head
29:09
Speaker 1: of FIFA, the world's top soccer body. He's reported me
29:11
Speaker 1: in trying to ring Donald Trump to get the President
29:15
Speaker 1: to help save his job because European soccer body is
29:19
Speaker 1: moving to sack the guy now Infantinos, of course, the
29:22
Speaker 1: man that the President rang to get canceled a red
29:26
Speaker 1: card given to an American player of the World Cup,
29:29
Speaker 1: and then Infantino tried to try to plan to sell
29:32
Speaker 1: a stake in future World Cup profits to private investors,
29:36
Speaker 1: including the brother of Donald Trump's son in law, Jared Kushna,
29:39
Speaker 1: which would have put in Fantino when learned for a
29:41
Speaker 1: salary of forty million dollars astray in the year. But
29:43
Speaker 1: that's by the bye. I'm sure there are denials of
29:46
Speaker 1: this story by the White House, and I follow up
29:49
Speaker 1: reports that Trump left Infantino to ring Secretary Saint Marco
29:54
Speaker 1: Rubio instead that call did not go ahead. Does any
29:57
Speaker 1: of this sound right to you?
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Speaker 14: Well, look, both sides are denying that the call was
30:02
Speaker 14: ever scheduled to take place. But I got to tell you,
30:05
Speaker 14: FIFA and scandal that goes hand in hand, So there's
30:09
Speaker 14: nothing that shocked me when it comes to this.
30:11
Speaker 12: I just think they had, you know, but you want
30:14
Speaker 12: to talk.
30:14
Speaker 14: I mean, if you have Zora Mondami on one end
30:17
Speaker 14: trying to figure out how to subsidize New York's food
30:19
Speaker 14: prices and go in the socialist direction, I think he
30:22
Speaker 14: might have gone a little too far on the capitalist side, trying.
30:24
Speaker 12: To sell off steaks and FIFA.
30:26
Speaker 14: But as I said, nothing shocks me when it comes
30:28
Speaker 14: to scandal and FIFA.
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Speaker 1: That is a beautifully put book in their Sean Spicer,
30:34
Speaker 1: thank you very much for your time.
30:36
Speaker 12: You met. See you soon.
30:39
Speaker 1: After the break. Former liberal treasurer Joe Hockey plays the
30:43
Speaker 1: race card to defend the controversial son of a Chinese
30:46
Speaker 1: billionaire who gave Anthony Elbinezi a mystery donation. Joe Hockey
30:56
Speaker 1: should be ashamed of himself, the full of treasure playing
30:59
Speaker 1: the racism card in the papers today. I'm so tired
31:02
Speaker 1: of this stuff. Hockey is now doing work which is
31:06
Speaker 1: well paid. I'm sure for young Felix Lee with Hockey
31:09
Speaker 1: and our chairman of the Lee family office and Lee,
31:12
Speaker 1: of course said the prom minister. Are over to his
31:14
Speaker 1: Sydney mansion the other day where Anthony Abanese was given
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Speaker 1: a donation variously reporters being between one hundred thousand and
31:20
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Not that Albaneze wanted to talk about
31:24
Speaker 1: that or even admit he was there.
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Speaker 15: Did you attend a dinner at the home of Felix
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Speaker 15: Lee in Point Piper?
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Speaker 1: Like I attend lots of functions.
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Speaker 9: I attend lots of functions in lots of places, including last.
31:35
Speaker 12: Night right here?
31:36
Speaker 16: What about this dinner at Point Pipe?
31:38
Speaker 9: I attend lots of functions?
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Speaker 11: And where do you want to ask that?
31:43
Speaker 1: Shifty? Now? Felix was actually the son of Chinese billionaire
31:47
Speaker 1: and property developer Philip Dong Fung Lie, who's had a
31:50
Speaker 1: huge broad with the Tax Office over a quarter of
31:52
Speaker 1: a billion of allegedly unpaid taxes. The Tax Office accused
31:56
Speaker 1: him of repeatedly deceiving our authorities the poor billions from
32:01
Speaker 1: China into Australian bank accounts. And mansions and putting huge
32:04
Speaker 1: money through casinos, leading to reports of suspicions of money laundering.
32:09
Speaker 1: I should stress, of course the father denies any wrongdoing
32:12
Speaker 1: and the disputants been settled. But howck his reaction, remember
32:18
Speaker 1: he does work for the Lee family, is to say, ah,
32:22
Speaker 1: every rich person gets chased by the tax office, you know,
32:25
Speaker 1: no biggie. And as for young Felix, reporters asking questions
32:30
Speaker 1: about all this seemed to be racist, Hockey says, just
32:34
Speaker 1: be very careful about racism. Here is Australian born, Australian citizen.
32:39
Speaker 1: His family made money out of infrastructure in China. So
32:43
Speaker 1: what I worry that there's a sort of racism that's
32:46
Speaker 1: driving things and that's really regrettable. Join me, Amir Schlift,
32:50
Speaker 1: the executive director with Samuel Griff Society, and Michael Dambi,
32:54
Speaker 1: former federal labor politician and former chairman of the Joint
32:57
Speaker 1: Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defense and Trade. Michael, how
33:01
Speaker 1: do you playing the race card to defend his client
33:04
Speaker 1: from reporters wondering whether what this huge donation of labor
33:08
Speaker 1: was really for Your response.
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Speaker 13: Well, Jose very personally, but I wondered how he convinced
33:14
Speaker 13: the Prime Minister to go over to this young blokes place,
33:17
Speaker 13: even though it's forty million dollars. And of course Elbow
33:21
Speaker 13: and Hockey go back a long way to their ninety
33:23
Speaker 13: eight parliamentary delegation to meet Yasser Arafa.
33:27
Speaker 1: So there've been.
33:27
Speaker 13: Friends all the way through, even though on the other
33:30
Speaker 13: side of politics. But it's not racist to question whether
33:35
Speaker 13: the AFP is investigating this on behalf of the Tax
33:39
Speaker 13: Office and whether two hundred and seventy million dollars is own.
33:41
Speaker 13: It's not racist to say whether it was a wise
33:43
Speaker 13: decision to go there, And it's certainly not racist to
33:48
Speaker 13: play David Spears in the ABC and wonder why he
33:51
Speaker 13: was so evasive and shifting about answering that question.
33:57
Speaker 1: Very much so me, I'm actually going to shift to
33:59
Speaker 1: the next because I want to give you some time.
34:02
Speaker 1: We want to give some time to this, don't want
34:04
Speaker 1: to run out. Pauling Hanson last week lost their appeal
34:08
Speaker 1: against the judgment two years ago in the Federal Court
34:11
Speaker 1: that should racially vilified Green Steputy leader Marrying Feruki by
34:15
Speaker 1: telling her to piss off back to Pakistan if she
34:17
Speaker 1: was soid down in Australia. This was after Farushi responded
34:21
Speaker 1: to the death of the queen by saying I cannot
34:23
Speaker 1: mourn the leader of a racist stampire built on stolen lives,
34:26
Speaker 1: land and wealth of colonized peoples. Mia. Your Samuel Griffith
34:31
Speaker 1: Society has now done a report on that judgment. What
34:34
Speaker 1: did it find?
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Speaker 15: Well, what we found, Andrew, is that Section eighteen C
34:41
Speaker 15: is a terrible, terrible law. And any political party here
34:45
Speaker 15: in this country who is seriously committed to freedom of
34:48
Speaker 15: speech and understands why freedom of speech is so important
34:51
Speaker 15: in holding up a liberal democracy, should be committed to
34:54
Speaker 15: repealing this law. If we get to the crux of
34:56
Speaker 15: the issue of what happened here, we had one sentenceor
34:59
Speaker 15: on the left who made a comment that many Australians
35:02
Speaker 15: might find offensive, and then we had a senator on
35:04
Speaker 15: the right who also responded by making a comment that
35:08
Speaker 15: many Australians might find offensive.
35:10
Speaker 16: But the difference is.
35:11
Speaker 15: Only the senator on the right here who now owes
35:14
Speaker 15: millions of dollars to be sorry for that claim. And
35:18
Speaker 15: the issue with this law, Andrew, is that is entirely subjective.
35:21
Speaker 15: Because offense is subjective, what one person might find offensive
35:26
Speaker 15: another person wouldn't. And ultimately, the person or the people
35:29
Speaker 15: who get to make a decision about whether something should
35:32
Speaker 15: or shouldn't be said, or whether Australians are free to
35:35
Speaker 15: hear something or not our judges, who are of course
35:38
Speaker 15: entirely unaccountable. If judges make decisions about what Australians are
35:43
Speaker 15: able to say and what they can't say, if Australians
35:46
Speaker 15: don't agree with that judgment, there's very very little that
35:50
Speaker 15: we can do. Of course, we've got parliamentarians that we
35:52
Speaker 15: disagree with all the time, but we are afforded the
35:54
Speaker 15: opportunity to vote them out. If a judge makes the
35:57
Speaker 15: decisions that Australians don't agree with.
35:59
Speaker 16: We can't vote them out.
36:00
Speaker 15: So that's why this Laura is particularly concerning, because the
36:04
Speaker 15: whole judgment rests on a subjective opinion, and even worse
36:08
Speaker 15: than that, it grows further because nobody actually needs to
36:10
Speaker 15: be offended by what was said. It's just up to
36:13
Speaker 15: a judge to decide whether a hypothetical person might reasonably
36:18
Speaker 15: be be offended by a statement.
36:23
Speaker 1: It's so weird, Michael, what has led to I think
36:26
Speaker 1: now and I'm seeing that I must say, without saying
36:28
Speaker 1: too much from a certain segment of the community at
36:32
Speaker 1: the moment, a weaponization of hurt feelings. So if you've
36:36
Speaker 1: got broad shoulders, you get nothing, you know, and you
36:39
Speaker 1: tolerate debate. But if you want to weaponize your hurt
36:43
Speaker 1: feelings and go wholl is me I'm offended, you can
36:47
Speaker 1: really punish people with the help of a sympathetic judge.
36:50
Speaker 13: Well, I think MEA's got a good point. Insulted offend,
36:53
Speaker 13: which you're part of ad and C. I think now
36:57
Speaker 13: after years of seeing how it operates, drawn too widely
37:02
Speaker 13: and it leaves too much discretion to.
37:06
Speaker 1: Judges.
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Speaker 13: And I think you can see in Victoria and federally
37:12
Speaker 13: letting people march across the bridge against the advice of
37:15
Speaker 13: the police. The judges are actually more liberal than some
37:19
Speaker 13: of the authorities would like them to be, and I
37:21
Speaker 13: think they should be more literal, more black and white.
37:27
Speaker 1: Miya Albanize's silence about the ABC's gross abuse of Gina Rehnhardt,
37:33
Speaker 1: I think it's terrible, but it's not the worst example
37:35
Speaker 1: of his sexism double standards. Last May, Japan's Prime Minister
37:40
Speaker 1: Sanotakiichi gave Albanizi the gift of a crown melon, a
37:44
Speaker 1: surprise gift, one tree, one fruit, so prized is presented
37:48
Speaker 1: to the emperor as well. But ALBINIZI turned it into
37:50
Speaker 1: a dirty joke to impress a pretty young blogger, Nikki Osborne.
37:54
Speaker 1: A joke so pure are that it's best seen with
37:57
Speaker 1: the Benny Hill soundtrack that we've added.
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Speaker 9: Look, the Japanese Prime minister brought a melon, got a
38:04
Speaker 9: couple of melons, got a couple of melons he brought too.
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Speaker 16: If you do.
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Speaker 1: Me, I said last month, this smuddy insult will not go.
38:18
Speaker 1: I noticed in Japan Now The Japan Times published an
38:21
Speaker 1: article by journalist Waka Akeda saying a woman may run
38:25
Speaker 1: the world's fourth largest economy. Stare down Beijing's threats to
38:29
Speaker 1: still be reduced by an allied prime minister to two
38:31
Speaker 1: melons on a podcast. The joke was beneath him and
38:34
Speaker 1: beneath Australia. How do you explain Albanese is gross insult?
38:41
Speaker 15: I don't think there is any explanation here. Andrew, it
38:44
Speaker 15: was gross. It was cheap and completely below the standards
38:48
Speaker 15: that were Australians expect of our prime minister. I will
38:51
Speaker 15: say I do not want to be lectured on sexism
38:54
Speaker 15: by Albanesi ever again, or any of the labor ministers,
38:58
Speaker 15: particularly the labor women, who have remained completely silent.
39:01
Speaker 16: On this issue. There has not been a single remark
39:04
Speaker 16: for many of them.
39:04
Speaker 15: We've even had Jacinta Rallan here in Victoria last week
39:08
Speaker 15: when she was stepping down, was playing the gender cards,
39:11
Speaker 15: saying she doesn't want young women to be deterred by
39:13
Speaker 15: her being rolled in the Victorian Labor Party. Yet she
39:16
Speaker 15: made no comment for how young women in this country
39:19
Speaker 15: might feel as they've got their prime minister making crude
39:23
Speaker 15: jokes about this, a very serious woman who in Japan
39:26
Speaker 15: has gone leaps and miles to achieve better outcome for
39:29
Speaker 15: women in that country, along with the whole other real
39:33
Speaker 15: accomplishments in the policy suite.
39:34
Speaker 16: Yet all of these labor women said nothing.
39:37
Speaker 15: Yet that the first to jump on any criticism of
39:40
Speaker 15: a conservative politician who makes a comment even related to women,
39:43
Speaker 15: whether it's sexist or not, they'll turn it into a
39:45
Speaker 15: sexist remark. Yet on this they all remain completely silent, including.
39:51
Speaker 1: For a minister Pittywong Michael.
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Speaker 13: Yes, so we've got a smutty prime minister who you
39:57
Speaker 13: quite rightly mock a sort of a Australian Benny Hill shameful.
40:03
Speaker 13: Japan is a serious country and if you look seriously
40:06
Speaker 13: at our foreign policy, you'd see Wong and the whole
40:10
Speaker 13: gang of them particularly underplay the seriousness of Japan and
40:16
Speaker 13: overplay their allegiance or obedience to China. So when the
40:22
Speaker 13: Japanese Prime Minister came here, I thought her visit was
40:25
Speaker 13: seriously underdone. And this Benny Hill Prime Minister really makes
40:31
Speaker 13: it worse. So shameful that the Japanese were such serious
40:35
Speaker 13: people would see this kind of rubbish and think that
40:38
Speaker 13: that's the views of Australians.
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Speaker 1: Me, I've run out of time, but just go ask
40:44
Speaker 1: you quickly. It seems to me that the government, now
40:47
Speaker 1: Labor government, has a real crisis about sexism, double standards,
40:51
Speaker 1: Gina own heart and this what is going on.
40:57
Speaker 15: Yes, I agree, Andrew, and I think it just shows
40:59
Speaker 15: that our often use a sexism card as a weapon
41:02
Speaker 15: in their political tool belt. They're not actually serious about
41:05
Speaker 15: stamping out sexism in this country, because if they were,
41:08
Speaker 15: they would have condemned this behavior from the Prime minister.
41:10
Speaker 15: But the fact the Prime Minister has apologized for the
41:13
Speaker 15: comments he made about Kylie Minogue and not apologized for
41:17
Speaker 15: these comments.
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Speaker 16: I think just speaks volumes.
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Speaker 1: Miya Schlicht and Michael Danby. Thank you very much to
41:24
Speaker 1: you both. It just shows really to me that sexism,
41:28
Speaker 1: finding it sexist for labor is a weapon. It's not
41:31
Speaker 1: a principle. The side comes first after they break the
41:34
Speaker 1: amazing scandals of Cambridge's youngest ever black professor. How on
41:40
Speaker 1: earth did he get away with it for so long?
41:48
Speaker 1: Jason day Is maybe was the star of Cambridge when
41:53
Speaker 1: of Britain's two most famous universities. Of course, who was
41:56
Speaker 1: the youngest black professor in his history? It's diversity post
42:00
Speaker 1: the boy, and what a story of triumph over adversity?
42:04
Speaker 17: Wouldn't it be the most ridiculous story ever told if
42:08
Speaker 17: the boy who can read and write eighteen gets a
42:10
Speaker 17: PhD before he's thirty.
42:15
Speaker 1: But if that sounded a little bit too good to
42:16
Speaker 1: be true, well, this sociology professor now forty one, that's
42:20
Speaker 1: been accused of plagiarism, which he denies, accused of copying
42:25
Speaker 1: nearly verbatim in his doctoral thesis, more than one hundred
42:29
Speaker 1: passages just from one other academics work. His defenders immediately,
42:34
Speaker 1: did you know Joe hockey and claimed it was the
42:37
Speaker 1: victim of racism.
42:38
Speaker 13: A baseless smear campaign against the distinguished black academic isn't
42:43
Speaker 13: just a personal attack.
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Speaker 2: It's an attempt to shut down a black person who
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Speaker 2: has a platform.
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Speaker 5: And they keep doing this again and again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. And Cambridge University even dismissed the plagiarism allegations,
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Speaker 1: you know, brush them aside. But then other claims how
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Speaker 1: they made on investigation turned out to be completely false,
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Speaker 1: like running six hundred miles and six days, or like
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Speaker 1: appearing on a famous TV show seven Up.
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Speaker 17: I was part of a program actually which it doesn't
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Speaker 17: really exist anymore, but it was called seven Up at
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Speaker 17: the time, and seven up is basically when they follow
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Speaker 17: you over the duration of your life, so they follow
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Speaker 17: you at kind of seven fourteen twenty one, and I
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Speaker 17: was pulled out of the project when I was fourteen.
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Speaker 1: Small problems. Seven Up was first filmed twenty one years
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Speaker 1: before Our Day was even born. It also lied about
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Speaker 1: fundraising had done, about foreign aid work had supposedly done,
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Speaker 1: about a visiting professorship had never had, and on and on.
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Speaker 1: Join me from London's Tak TV host Samara Gill, Samara
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Speaker 1: Great to see. But what an amazing story. And the
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Speaker 1: question is how did he get away with it for
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Speaker 1: so long?
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Speaker 6: Andrew, I never want to get on your bad side.
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Speaker 6: You've got the receipts.
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Speaker 5: I mean, genuinely, it's so interesting, isn't it.
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Speaker 6: Professor our Day literally lied his way to the top,
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Speaker 6: it seems.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 5: Look, he claims what I am not is a liar, and.
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Speaker 6: He also says that he is obviously the target of
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Speaker 6: a politically and racially motivated campaign as you played out there.
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Speaker 6: But you know this shouldn't be a cultural war story,
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Speaker 6: and this is exactly what it's become. The question is
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Speaker 6: whether Professor are Day black autistic supporter of DEI.
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Speaker 5: The question is whether.
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Speaker 6: He actually is supporting those academic standards and whether they
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Speaker 6: apply to everyone. So if there are allegations of plagiarism,
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Speaker 6: then they should investigate them. If they're unfounded, then clear
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Speaker 6: his name. And most universities they start treating the scrutiny
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Speaker 6: as taboo because of someone's identity, and that actually undermines
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Speaker 6: public confidence in academia. And that's where the issues start
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Speaker 6: to lie. I mean, I think to myself of Claudine Gay.
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Speaker 6: If anyone remembers she was the Harvard president, she was
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Speaker 6: a black woman. She had multiple allegations of plagiarism on
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Speaker 6: multiple academic works, and she again pulled this race card,
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Speaker 6: saying that it was a witch hunt against her.
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Speaker 5: Well, unfortunately, the plagiarism that was found to be true
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Speaker 5: doesn't lie. And this is the problem here.
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Speaker 6: You know, universities, they don't protect their reputation by avoiding
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Speaker 6: difficult questions.
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Speaker 5: They should protect it by answering them.
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Speaker 6: And equal opportunities actually means equal scrutiny Andrew, But some
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Speaker 6: people haven't got the memo on that.
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Speaker 1: No, that's so true. But you know it's interesting you say, correctly,
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Speaker 1: it shouldn't be a political issue. I think it is
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Speaker 1: the case that it is. It's not that it's being
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Speaker 1: attached because it's a diversity pick. I think it's being
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Speaker 1: defended because he's a diversity pick. He's had so many defenders,
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Speaker 1: especially when the story first broke. I wanted to preserve
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Speaker 1: this story. What's happening with him now, I.
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Speaker 6: Mean, what's happening with him now is that I believe
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Speaker 6: he's fighting the case. He is claiming that it is
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Speaker 6: some sort of targeted thing. There also claims about harassment,
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Speaker 6: including he's saying that a pig's head was delivered to
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Speaker 6: his parents' home.
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Speaker 5: That's also come under scrutiny.
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Speaker 6: The police say they couldn't find any records of that
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Speaker 6: to that account. From what I know, he maintains his
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Speaker 6: version of events, But I think that he is kind
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Speaker 6: of going for now this guy called Nathan Coffness, and
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Speaker 6: he's alleging that Nathan has an interesting past and that Nathan,
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Speaker 6: who is leading the charge against this, does have some
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Speaker 6: sort of racial element to him and to what he's
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Speaker 6: saying about him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what this says about race policies in
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Speaker 1: Britain though, that this has become such a cause salib
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Speaker 1: with as you suggest this, the facts don't seem to
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Speaker 1: matter anymore. It's really what do you want, you know?
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Speaker 1: On the black guys sidery against the black gut. It's
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Speaker 1: like that, what does it say about race politics?
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Speaker 6: Then it says that it's actually dividing the country instead
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Speaker 6: of uniting it. You know, this is not fair on
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Speaker 6: black professors who have done all that they've done and
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Speaker 6: got to the top by merit. He's actually ruining it
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Speaker 6: for the rest of everyone else. And unfortunately, policies like DEI,
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Speaker 6: in my view, actually totally do the opposite of what
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Speaker 6: they were put into place to do. They make people
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Speaker 6: resentful about those who get promoted. They make people think, oh,
47:38
Speaker 6: why they're only in that position because of their skin color,
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Speaker 6: or their or because of their gender, and for a
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Speaker 6: lot of the case that's not true. So that is
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Speaker 6: I think the issue here. And unfortunately Britain is well
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Speaker 6: in the wokification of its academic institutions, of its civil servants,
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Speaker 6: I mean, of its civil service. Just last year we
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Speaker 6: spent sixty million dollars on DEI in the civil service.
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Speaker 5: So this issue is not going away unfortunately.
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Speaker 1: Andrew, what an amazing amount is that the case? Oh listen,
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Speaker 1: this whole race business is such an industry. Now, Samara
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Speaker 1: Gil always great to talk to you, and thank you
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Speaker 1: so much. I mean, as Samara is absolutely corrected. It's
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Speaker 1: such an insult to other black academics. You think of
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Speaker 1: Thomas how the great Thomas how right, tremendous. He would
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Speaker 1: never have needed all this stuff, He would never have
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Speaker 1: needed that defending his genius just shone. So there you go.
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Speaker 1: Well that's it from me. Coming up next to is
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Speaker 1: Sharry Marxon for me for now. Good Night,