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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 23 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Trains leaving on
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  Speaker 1: the station run to get on it. It is Monday, December.
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  Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hours presented by
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  Speaker 1: Jet Home Loans and now a guy whose house has
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  Speaker 1: an accumulation of thirty eight years of coal j P.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I ever got coal and switches. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans j P, Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Total Baselli and Jacksonville Pete Friscoes out in South Florida.
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  Speaker 1: And we've got a program today. The Jacks train derailed.
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  Speaker 1: Yes it did, Yes it did. That was a while ago.
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  Speaker 1: It derailed. It's on the track again. We're on the tracks, baby,
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  Speaker 1: I'm on. I'm on the train. Let's go. Okay, here's
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  Speaker 1: what you sounded like this morning when we say you
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  Speaker 1: have text what are you talking about? You were full
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  Speaker 1: of enthusiasm. Well, I just you know, I was in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of my coffee and you caught me right
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  Speaker 1: when I was watching the tape. Again, So wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: best mood. Coffee and cookies, Like you told me the
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  Speaker 1: other day, I'm eating Christmas time. I am so fat
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  Speaker 1: right now? Me too? Fat? Fat? Is JP fat? Two times? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty large right now. I mean, can you see
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  Speaker 1: his face? Fat? His face? You're better looking than you though, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean your mom doesn't mean every year you going
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  Speaker 1: in to football season. Me and Tony talking about this
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  Speaker 1: the other day. You go in to football seasons and
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  Speaker 1: not this year. I'm not gonna get me. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna get that added weight on me. I'm gonna be good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna work out by time to get to mid October.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, you got me football seasons undefeated. Man, it
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  Speaker 1: always gets you. Here's what we're getting too. On the
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  Speaker 1: program today, the Falcons twenty four Jaguars twelve will recap
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  Speaker 1: the game. What now or what next? Is the Indianapolis
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  Speaker 1: Colts coming to town in week seventeen. The future at
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  Speaker 1: the top of the organization is top of mind around
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  Speaker 1: town today. We'll discuss social media questions to that tune
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  Speaker 1: as well, and we'll go around the a f C
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  Speaker 1: South even though it doesn't matter anymore, and around the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League and some tight divisional races wrapping up
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  Speaker 1: even last night. Um So, let's start off with the
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  Speaker 1: future at the top of the organization. That's been the
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  Speaker 1: top of mind story ever since the Tom Coughlin firing
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  Speaker 1: of Wednesday evening and the announcement from Jaguars owner Shot
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  Speaker 1: con said that Doug Marone and Dave hal Will will
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  Speaker 1: both report in the interim directly to shot Khan the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the year. What does that mean for the future.
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  Speaker 1: There was no definitive answer there. But you know you're
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  Speaker 1: hearing reports, since hearing rumors that these guys could be
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  Speaker 1: around next year. I'm moving forward for this football team. Pete,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think? I think that's pretty much an
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  Speaker 1: accurate statement. You know, I I do, and Tony I've
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  Speaker 1: talked to Tony about this. I hear the same thing
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  Speaker 1: that they they will becoming, They likely will become. And
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  Speaker 1: now you can't say definitively. God knows. If they lost
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  Speaker 1: fifty five and nothing on Sunday, who knows, they might
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  Speaker 1: change things. But let me say something about Doug coming back. Um, Look,
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  Speaker 1: I personally probably would make changes across the board because
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  Speaker 1: I think the organization's become stale um and they probably
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  Speaker 1: need some new blood in there. But having said that,
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  Speaker 1: if you're Doug Morone and you go to the ownership,
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  Speaker 1: and you say, hey, wait a second. I never really
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  Speaker 1: got the coaches team the way I wanted to coach
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  Speaker 1: it because I had Tom with his whistle on my
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  Speaker 1: practice field every day. I had Tom sending clocks five
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  Speaker 1: minutes fast every all over the building. It was as
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  Speaker 1: if he was still the coach. So you can understand
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  Speaker 1: where Tom where he could make a case for himself
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  Speaker 1: to get another year. So I get that. I understand
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  Speaker 1: that what can he do when he doesn't have Tom
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  Speaker 1: on the practice field. I understand that. Um, but me,
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  Speaker 1: I'm surprised, to be honest with you, that they've come back. Um. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know. I mean, it's still uh to be
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  Speaker 1: determined until we get a final statement from Sean Khan.
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  Speaker 1: But the reports are out there that both David and
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  Speaker 1: Doug will come back. And it's fair to ask questions.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, JP, you've been around all day, I've been around.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you listen to the shows, you listen to
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  Speaker 1: social media, and I don't think it's the most popular decision.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say, and I think that's
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  Speaker 1: it's fair to ask questions. Um, it's you know why, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's what what what Okay, Tony, if I
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  Speaker 1: asked you, if I asked that question, why, how would
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  Speaker 1: you answer it if you were shot? Con do you think? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not shot, and I don't know all that is
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  Speaker 1: going into his decision making. I've not talked to him
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  Speaker 1: about it, uh, specifically at all, So I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: what's going into his the decision making process of if
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  Speaker 1: he makes that decision where they come back. Uh. And
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  Speaker 1: so it's a tough one, Pete, to be honest you,
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  Speaker 1: it's a tough one for me to answer of of uh,
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  Speaker 1: why that decision is being made. I think you bring
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  Speaker 1: up a good point about Doug. I said it last
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  Speaker 1: week and I still stand by it that you have
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  Speaker 1: to evaluate both of these individually in separate. Dave has
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  Speaker 1: been here for seven years. Um, there's a body of
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  Speaker 1: work that you can look at and make judgments based
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  Speaker 1: on the product action. Uh. And at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, the one only thing that really matters, and
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  Speaker 1: the only thing that should matter and the NFL on
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  Speaker 1: the game of football is the wind column and the
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  Speaker 1: lost Colum. That's how everyone should be judged. And as
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  Speaker 1: a player, that's how I was judged all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean It's one of the great things that I
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  Speaker 1: love about sport and especially football. It's like you go out,
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  Speaker 1: you do your job, there's film, you're judged, you're evaluated,
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  Speaker 1: and if it's not good enough, they it's time to
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  Speaker 1: make a change. And ultimately you're judged by wins and losses.
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  Speaker 1: In this league, that's all that matters. And every decision
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  Speaker 1: should be made based on is this gonna help you
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  Speaker 1: win football games? And is it gonna help you do
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  Speaker 1: the ultimate thing, which is win a world championship and
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  Speaker 1: hoist the Lombardi Trophy. Every decision needs to be made
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  Speaker 1: in light of that. Would there be the contracts that
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  Speaker 1: they have are through season? I don't. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: money has any infect in it whatsoever. Sean CON's a
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  Speaker 1: very wealthy man. I don't think money has any play
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  Speaker 1: in this at all, do you, Tony? I mean, could it? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. I don't think. I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't. I got the impression from Doug.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you heard the statement from Sean Conny said
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  Speaker 1: he had made the decision earlier in the year to
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  Speaker 1: get rid of Tom Coughlin. Didn't you get the idea
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  Speaker 1: that Maron was coaching like he thought he was going
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  Speaker 1: to get it. There was some of the comments that
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  Speaker 1: were coming, not coaching, but the comments and his attitude
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  Speaker 1: and the way he was talking. He kind of thought
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  Speaker 1: that was coming and maybe he was gonna get it too,
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  Speaker 1: and he might be surprised that he unless they told him, look,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get rid of Tom and you are coming back.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it just seemed like because he took a
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  Speaker 1: lot of shots at Tom, you know, veiled shots not
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  Speaker 1: you know, probably rightfully so in some situations whereas a
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  Speaker 1: head coach normally wouldn't say those type of things. Um uh.
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  Speaker 1: We are all speculating and trying to read te leaves
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  Speaker 1: right now, and we're basing a lot of this conversation
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  Speaker 1: on reports and everything else of the possibility or maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's a long, strong leaning towards both Doug and Dave
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  Speaker 1: coming back. And and I'm struggling a little bit because
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a tough situation because if you look at
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  Speaker 1: the body of work and if you and that's why
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  Speaker 1: I think you have to look at individually, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that you sit back and you make judgments. I
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  Speaker 1: think what you said about Doug is very accurate. He
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  Speaker 1: could he have been hampered and affected by the influence
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  Speaker 1: of Tom being here and and and really leaning in
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  Speaker 1: on the coaching side. I mean my perspective, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and the feeling I got is that Tom leaned much
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  Speaker 1: more on the coaches in the coaching side, out of
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  Speaker 1: the front office, and kind of left Dave and personnel
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  Speaker 1: more to operate independently. That's the feeling you get, at least,
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  Speaker 1: other than he made the final decisions. Let's not forget that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a collaborative. I think Doug letter
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  Speaker 1: Fournette was Letter four Nette, who's had a great year,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, was his pick. I to be fair,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know exactly the nuances of how those decisions
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  Speaker 1: were finally made, but yes, Tom was in charge, so
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  Speaker 1: a we said it all along. I mean that's right, Um,
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  Speaker 1: But you can evaluate, you know, you just look at
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  Speaker 1: the big picture. You evaluate it, and I think what
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  Speaker 1: Pete said about Doug is fair, and you kind of
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  Speaker 1: go back and forth and say, Okay, what was hampered? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Was Doug hamper to do his job? Could he do
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  Speaker 1: be a uh do a better job of coaching if
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't have that presence in the pressure and everything
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  Speaker 1: else of of Tom looking, of the feeling of Tom
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  Speaker 1: looking over sure, not the presence and the pressure, the influence,
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  Speaker 1: that's the same thing. Whatever influence, that was not the
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  Speaker 1: same thing. If you had if you had a guy
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  Speaker 1: like Tom Coughlin who was legitimately in the building and
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  Speaker 1: serving as the role he was supposed to serve in
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  Speaker 1: rather than being on the practice field all the time,
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  Speaker 1: then it would be that you would say, Okay, that's
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  Speaker 1: at presence. That's not a presence when you're on the
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  Speaker 1: practice field and you're involved in it. That's an influence
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  Speaker 1: problem there. But Dave's on the practice field as well.
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  Speaker 1: Dave is a general manager and he's never been a
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  Speaker 1: head coach. He's never been a coach. Dave doesn't get
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the drill. I was there. I
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  Speaker 1: saw Tom's in the middle of the drills almost, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: that's fair. I agree with you. You and I are
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  Speaker 1: saying the exact same thing. So I'm fine with your
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  Speaker 1: were the influence? So what impact did that have? Undug
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  Speaker 1: And if you're shot you're saying I want to see
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  Speaker 1: because I think Doug Brown is a good head coach,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to see what he can do on
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  Speaker 1: his own. That's fair, but that doesn't a yeah, that's fair,
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  Speaker 1: but it's still do that. As fair as that is,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't erase everything. I'm with you on that. You
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  Speaker 1: have to look at there and then you have to
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  Speaker 1: evaluate Dave the same way of looking at the body
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  Speaker 1: of work that has been produced under his leadership as
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  Speaker 1: general manager since two thousand and There are a lot
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  Speaker 1: of blown picks. There are blown picks in there, but
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of good ones too. And we
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  Speaker 1: went through that a couple of weeks ago. The pick
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  Speaker 1: the roster is bad, bottom line is right now, we'd
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  Speaker 1: have a very good roster in my opinion, And the
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  Speaker 1: and the the salary that falls on them, and the
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  Speaker 1: salary capsin issue that falls on them, and so and
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  Speaker 1: we've lost a lot of football games, yes, and so
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  Speaker 1: that's the process of you go through it and and
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  Speaker 1: and where we sit today is we still don't know
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  Speaker 1: Shot will make the evaluation. The one thing I know
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  Speaker 1: about Shot Conn is he wants to win. But every
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  Speaker 1: owner wants to win, every single one. And so but
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  Speaker 1: anyone who says anything else, and man, I've heard more
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy theories on social media today that are absolutely ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: What are some of them? I mean, you hear the
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  Speaker 1: references to major league and like trying to trying to
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  Speaker 1: know uh, the teams and all this stuff. That's not accurate.
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  Speaker 1: You don't spend the money in the in the resources
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  Speaker 1: that set con has spent if you if you're not
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  Speaker 1: trying to win, well, they tried to win, didn't win,
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  Speaker 1: got close, and now it's a disaster. You're better off
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  Speaker 1: being the Miami Dolphins right now. Why is that? Well, Ay,
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  Speaker 1: they have a ton of cap room. B they have
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  Speaker 1: a ton of draft picks, a ton of them. They
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  Speaker 1: are a better football they're better football team right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's fair. It is fair. The tanking team came to
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, who knew. It's a little strong. That's a
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  Speaker 1: strong statement, but very strong. And I know I used
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  Speaker 1: to kid. Remember I used a kid. I'd say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: assistant head coach Doug Morone. Remember I did that for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years now, that wasn't just this year either.
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  Speaker 1: And I always used to make that joke and it
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  Speaker 1: was funny and we laughed at it, but in hindsight,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't so funny, was it. Well, there's nothing funny
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  Speaker 1: about losing the way we have lost. I mean, having
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  Speaker 1: double digit losses again, it's not funny and it's not
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  Speaker 1: enjoyable for anybody, and nobody likes it. It is not fun.
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  Speaker 1: And we sit here right now not talking about what
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  Speaker 1: we'd like to talk about, which is fighting for a
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  Speaker 1: playoff spot and trying to win a championship. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: about changes and what changes will happen or won't happen.
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  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, we don't know today,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know right now what that decision is going
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  Speaker 1: to be. Yes, there's sorry, Tony, but you guys have
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  Speaker 1: been in town all day. Who are people clamoring to
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  Speaker 1: get That's what I want to know, because you know
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  Speaker 1: the masses out there all follow one another. Well, the
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  Speaker 1: interesting thing is right now, nobody's clamoring to get anybody.
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  Speaker 1: It's just get rid of people. Right, I haven't seen many. Right,
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  Speaker 1: If you're gonna want to get rid of people, then
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  Speaker 1: offer me an alternative for who you would go get? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think right now, and this is what fans do,
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  Speaker 1: and I understand it. Fans are just they are sick
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  Speaker 1: and tired of losing and not being relevant, and so
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  Speaker 1: right now the pain they are feeling is anything but
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  Speaker 1: the status quo. And I think that would be a
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  Speaker 1: fair way to explain what what you I mean? Would
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  Speaker 1: you sense that Jpy anything but see And here's the
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  Speaker 1: other thing, Tony, And you know this as well as anybody.
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  Speaker 1: And I've been associated with that by living there and
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  Speaker 1: covering that team and doing these shows everything, and doing
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  Speaker 1: Radio Jacksonville for years. Everybody in the national media has
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  Speaker 1: always associated me with Jacksonville. Always, and so when I'm
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  Speaker 1: out in the national media, I hear the jokes, I
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  Speaker 1: hear how people perceived the team. I've heard it for years.
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  Speaker 1: When you back to when you were playing, Uh, that
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  Speaker 1: little marketing because I used to complain guys didn't get
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  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl votes. Well, that's a you know, disaster over there,
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  Speaker 1: that little market. Nobody pays attention. And it's hurting you
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  Speaker 1: now twenty five years or thirty years later or whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is because of the Hall of Fame voting and
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  Speaker 1: Fred Taylor and everybody else. Well, now it's gone from
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  Speaker 1: mocking the little city that shouldn't have had the franchise
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  Speaker 1: to the laughing stock. People laugh at the city. They
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  Speaker 1: laugh at the the Jaguars. Oh are you surprised at
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars? Are the ones with with all the issues
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  Speaker 1: with the fines the NFL? No, not at all. You
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  Speaker 1: hear it over and over and over again. I'm on
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  Speaker 1: the air down here there. They make cracks all the time.
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  Speaker 1: So that's where the organization is right now. And it's
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  Speaker 1: been that way for a long time. And at some
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  Speaker 1: point they gotta get out from underneath that. They can
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  Speaker 1: become a Seattle like team. All you have to do
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  Speaker 1: is win. People think the Seahawks, so look how relevant
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  Speaker 1: they are. They were a bad team for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: People laughed at them too. Well, you know what, at
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  Speaker 1: some point you got to change the whole thing there,
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  Speaker 1: flip it over and change the way people look at
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  Speaker 1: that organization. And Pete, would you say, I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: the national perspective obviously when I was playing, But I
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  Speaker 1: agree with you now I'm out on the road all
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  Speaker 1: the time to national games, and the perception and the
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  Speaker 1: jokes and everything is not good. But in the nineties
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  Speaker 1: there are still the jokes about the small market. But
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  Speaker 1: don't you think the organization from a football standpoint, a
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  Speaker 1: team standpoint, was respected because we were winning. Yes, no
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  Speaker 1: doubt about that, and what happened so quickly, and the
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  Speaker 1: how it was built and everything else, But there was
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  Speaker 1: always the undertone, oh, only be there for a couple
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  Speaker 1: more years until they leave. They shouldn't have got the
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  Speaker 1: franchise in the first place. There how many times, but Tony,
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  Speaker 1: that's just the way they do the organization people. I'm
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  Speaker 1: making your point. You can't change how people feel about
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  Speaker 1: the city, right, But what you can change is if
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  Speaker 1: you win, and you go win championships, there will be
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  Speaker 1: no more joking. They might joke about the small market,
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  Speaker 1: nobody's joking about the Green Bay's or you know other
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  Speaker 1: small market the handful of small market market teams. If
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  Speaker 1: you win, it's no different. By the way, the Cincinnati Bengals.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone jokes about the Bengals because why because Cincinnati's small market. No,
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  Speaker 1: because they don't win. But when you don't win, and
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  Speaker 1: your products thinks and people stopped going to the games,
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  Speaker 1: and then you look at you see all those empty seats,
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  Speaker 1: and what goes back to at one point the Tarps.
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  Speaker 1: Remember the jokes about the Tarps, even though it was
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  Speaker 1: a misguided joke and it had no relevance. Where's the fans.
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  Speaker 1: They don't realize that there's this young, crazy fan base
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  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville now of you know eighteen, the thirty five
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  Speaker 1: year olds that are just crazy about the team, and
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  Speaker 1: that's all perpetuated by bad football. Bad football makes it
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  Speaker 1: all just keep on going. And that's where Jacksonville is
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  Speaker 1: right Well, it's in the whole fans not coming to games.
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  Speaker 1: We just played in a large market yesterday in Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: and it was at best half full at best. So
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  Speaker 1: when you don't win, you lose relevancy, regardless of your market.
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  Speaker 1: And the only way to cure anything all the issues
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  Speaker 1: you line up. You could line up all the issues
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  Speaker 1: we you have with the Jacksonville Jaguars or any team
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  Speaker 1: The reports are out there that they're uh the heavy
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  Speaker 1: leaning towards them coming back, both of them not popular today,
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  Speaker 1: uh on social media or on the shows or anything.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, we'll wait and see what happens. If they're back,
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  Speaker 1: they gotta win next year, right, Well, I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 1: If they're coming back, it's pff. I think that's here's
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the thing. But it is just a playoff caliber team.
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  Speaker 1: Right before we get to that, just stop before you
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  Speaker 1: go there, Pete, it's a the question, the fair question
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  Speaker 1: is is what is the evaluation based on to bring
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  Speaker 1: them back individually? And Pete laid out his reason that
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  Speaker 1: he thinks he could understand whether he would do it
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• 27:42
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  Speaker 1: Coughlin and that he wasn't allowed to do the job
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to do because of that. Whether that's true
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  Speaker 1: or not, you can debate and everything else. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a fair point. And then you have to ask
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  Speaker 1: the same question, based on what set of metrics that
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  Speaker 1: you would evaluate, Dave Caldwell, do you bring him back?
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  Speaker 1: And that's what we'll find out when the decision is made.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what were the what were the metrics, what
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: was the decision for that? Until then, it's really really
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  Speaker 1: just speculating. There's only been when Mr cond decided this talk,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, whenever he decides to make that public. And JP,
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  Speaker 1: you asked me, is this a playoff contending team? And
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I said, hell no, and it won't be next year.
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  Speaker 1: It can't be. It can't be. No, it can't be.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Why you don't have cap room to go even fill
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: in some of the spots you need to fill in. Now,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: you can create some, and they will create some, but
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you also got a tag in got way if you're
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: gonna keep him, that's gonna take a big hit out
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  Speaker 1: of that, So you can't. You know, you can get
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  Speaker 1: rid of Norwell and save some money. You get rid
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  Speaker 1: of boy and save some money you give rid of.
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  Speaker 1: But I think I think has a pretty good big
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  Speaker 1: dead number. Now, I think they save money if I
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  Speaker 1: looked at it, they save money on his, they save
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  Speaker 1: money on boy A. They could get they could get under.
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  Speaker 1: But then if you're gonna tag in goc way, that
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  Speaker 1: think is gonna be twenty million dollars or whatever it is,
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  Speaker 1: so that take if you got million under, that leaves
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  Speaker 1: you five millions. Well, they're not going to fix the
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  Speaker 1: roster going first of all, I don't think you fix
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  Speaker 1: the roster free agency anyways, but you gotta supplement the
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  Speaker 1: roster well, And that goes to the question. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you look at in the entire evaluation of where
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  Speaker 1: counting on the starters right now, on a roster that's
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  Speaker 1: already not very good. Tony. Back in the day, they
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  Speaker 1: cut you, and then uh is that pain? And because
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't they couldn't afford to keep you, Well, they
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  Speaker 1: ain't cut us. They put us on the expansion draft.
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  Speaker 1: But that's basically they sent us packing. They sent us
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  Speaker 1: down the road. Okay that that's a nice way saying
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  Speaker 1: you would have got, you would have got probably would
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  Speaker 1: have been cut Tony. No, Sally, I don't think that.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was I was like the one player
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  Speaker 1: But as it turns out, though, cut, release, whatever thing,
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• 30:33
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• 30:37
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• 30:40
  Speaker 1: do that is how do you fill those holes? And
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and that's that's I think that's the question everyone's asking
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: as you sit back and evaluate the decisions, how we're
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: gonna move forward? And part of the ultimate metrics is
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: wins the losses, but then also the direction are you
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: going in the right direction as a football team? Well,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: he as it goes back to re member, like the
• 31:00
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  Speaker 1: the assets? Where are the building block assets right now
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  Speaker 1: on that football teams made himself into something that you
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: have to have around. I'll give him credit for that. Well,
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• 31:19
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• 31:21
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• 31:23
  Speaker 1: an offense is averaging three points a game over the
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  Speaker 1: are bad, okay, but that tells What that tells you
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  Speaker 1: that's well, that's one of the playmakers. Well, that's the
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  Speaker 1: major playmakers. That's what I'm saying. I agree playmakers yesterday
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  Speaker 1: guys playmakers too, but they they have a very good
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  Speaker 1: the right tone is better. I'm not gonna say that,
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  Speaker 1: but like Urth goes out, he's got a banged up
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  Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is thumbing through Twitter. Pete Priscoe is down
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  Speaker 1: in South Florida. Glad you're along with us. Twelve of
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  Speaker 1: the final and it wasn't that close. I didn't feel
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  Speaker 1: that close. In Atlanta yesterday the Falcons put up five
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  Speaker 1: eighteen yards of offense. We'll get to the Jaguars defensive
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  Speaker 1: performance then, but don't break baby. That's what they call that.
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  Speaker 1: I guess. We actually had the game on one of
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  Speaker 1: the big TVs because we Brady was doing the game,
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  Speaker 1: so he wanted to critique everything. He said. Did you
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  Speaker 1: see him, Tony, how do you do it in? He's good?
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  Speaker 1: He was really good. But that team he has Joe Davis.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know him. He does Dodger
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  Speaker 1: baseball games, but he does a lot of games with
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  Speaker 1: him over the years. He's really good. Joe Davids. Joe
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  Speaker 1: was good. He was in the Southern League at the
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  Speaker 1: same time I was. He was in Montgomery. Someone someone's
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  Speaker 1: he's a young guy. He's young. Yeah, a good dudey
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  Speaker 1: buddy tight No, no, but he's talked to him a
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  Speaker 1: few years. But I thought, you guys are tight, good
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  Speaker 1: guys going to bat for him. Pete, You're right, Um,
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  Speaker 1: we were very good. He's very good. He's a talented guy. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Mensh you we just heard from him there and you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned earlier. The first half numbers the last seven games points.
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  Speaker 1: The first half numbers compared to the opponents are just awful.
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  Speaker 1: To look at a hundred eight to twenty two the
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  Speaker 1: total score opponents lead there the average total yards to
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  Speaker 1: thirty five to one thirteen and that seven game stretch
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  Speaker 1: five first downs. That's amazing total first down or average
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  Speaker 1: first downs in a game in the first half of
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  Speaker 1: games compared to the opponents who fourteen first downs. The
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  Speaker 1: Jags have third down conversions in the first half for
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  Speaker 1: the other side and the average offensive plays twenty six
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  Speaker 1: to thirty seven for the opponent. And they'll go through
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  Speaker 1: the defenses that they've played in there that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of those defenses are bad too. Let's let's take a look.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go with the Houston Texans. Was the first game?
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  Speaker 1: What's that where they're staying? Let's go through the rankings
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  Speaker 1: and look at see where they're racked. Alright, so Houston
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  Speaker 1: is the first team, it goes Houston, Indie, Tennessee correct,
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  Speaker 1: three straight divisional teams, and Tampa Chargers. Okay, we know
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  Speaker 1: Tampa's got a bad defense. Chargers are top five defense.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see, so the Houston Texans overall defense, the Indianapolis
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  Speaker 1: Colts are the sixteenth overall defense. The Tennessee Titan are
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  Speaker 1: the where are they? Where are they? Dare one overall things? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers Okay, middle of the road part of
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  Speaker 1: the Cannons, Los Angeles Chargers our sixth defense defense. See
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  Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders are in the league, the Atlanta Falcons
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  Speaker 1: are so of those defenses that they play, only one
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  Speaker 1: was the top ten defense and that's Los Angeles Chargers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so that just goes back to what you're saying, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: then aready planmate. The offense is bad. It's a bad
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  Speaker 1: offense right now, right now as is. It might be
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  Speaker 1: the worst offense in the National Football League. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's when you look at it, it's you can explain
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  Speaker 1: it and when some at some level, I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: made the decision to stay with Bake Bortles a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years ago, and then you drafted Leonard four Nett,
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  Speaker 1: who's a power back. That year you went to the
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  Speaker 1: championship game, you had a blocking tight end Mercedes Lewis
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  Speaker 1: on the roster, and you had a fullback, and you
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  Speaker 1: played a certain time football and you had a historically
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  Speaker 1: year on defense, you played a certain way on offense. Well,
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  Speaker 1: since then, you never replaced Mercedes Lewis. He's still playing
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  Speaker 1: in Green Bay, but you never replaced them with the
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  Speaker 1: blocking tight end. You've not done nothing to address that.
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  Speaker 1: You have no fullback on your roster. They've they've signed
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  Speaker 1: some guys, but nothing of that caliber. Let's say, okay,
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  Speaker 1: they have done nothing to replace the tight end position
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  Speaker 1: where you have a physical, blocking tight end on this
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  Speaker 1: roster let alone. They still don't have a pass catching
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  Speaker 1: tight end on this roster. They drafted Oliver, they do
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  Speaker 1: not have a blocking tight end, and we do not
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  Speaker 1: have I'm with you. I'm saying, yes, they have no
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  Speaker 1: fullback on the roster. Correct, And so the style of
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  Speaker 1: football they want you play, and they got a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in Nick Foles who doesn't like the operator underneath the center,
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  Speaker 1: and so you you you don't have it. And so
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  Speaker 1: you have your best offensive player, who's Leonard Fournett, that
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  Speaker 1: is best to play a certain style, and you haven't
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  Speaker 1: built the roster who play that style of football. He's
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  Speaker 1: become a pass catcher, so I mean, he's leading the team.
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  Speaker 1: But but but I'm gonna I'm gonna give you an
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  Speaker 1: example of something. I mean, do you disagree with that
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  Speaker 1: what I just said? No, you're spot on. So that's
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  Speaker 1: a coaching decision. That's a bad coaching decision. What wait before,
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  Speaker 1: why is that coaching? The scheme? Doesn't match the runner
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  Speaker 1: team to the runner. Well, they but they have to
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  Speaker 1: they don't have the personnel to do that. If you
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  Speaker 1: don't have a tight end of the roster, you can't play.
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  Speaker 1: How are you gonna you can't, Well, they don't have one.
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  Speaker 1: You can find a slugo somewhere to become. But that's
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  Speaker 1: not the that's not the coach's responsibility. I agree with you,
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  Speaker 1: it's both. I'm not blaming just one side or the
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  Speaker 1: other side or anyone. I'm not blaming. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 1: the reality is you have to Okay, no playmakers. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna go and I always point to the quarterback position.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the Miami Dolphins. They score a
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  Speaker 1: boatload of points, and they had a bunch of them yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Now the Bengals aren't good on defense, but they had
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of them yesterday. Davante Parker and d J.
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  Speaker 1: Chark or a wash. They've made Mike Gasecki into a
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  Speaker 1: player in Alaska. Their offensive line, as bad as Jacksonville's
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  Speaker 1: offensive line is, Miami's is worse. They have no running
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  Speaker 1: backs of no Patrick Glared and Gasking. They got rid
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  Speaker 1: of Kenyan Drake who just carrying up? But okay, so
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  Speaker 1: and then so where where is the points coming from?
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  Speaker 1: They're coming from the quarterback position because he's playing well
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  Speaker 1: and he's taking advantage of, you know, the opportunities down
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  Speaker 1: the field, because he's much better as a veteran quarterback
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  Speaker 1: than what Jacksonville has on the field now or when
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  Speaker 1: they had Nick Foles. So it's that's Patrick better than
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  Speaker 1: Nick Foles. That was I was gonna ask you, I
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen Wow, mhm. Would you have said that this offseason?
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  Speaker 1: I would have said six and one half dozen the
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  Speaker 1: other so you wouldn't so you wouldn't have paid Nick
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  Speaker 1: Foles what they paid them. Oh, I said that all along.
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  Speaker 1: What do we have seen a different Nick? We we
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  Speaker 1: asked this and you don't really know. But if he
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  Speaker 1: don't got hurt and had a chance to get his
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  Speaker 1: rhythm and do everything earlier in the season, do we
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  Speaker 1: see a different kind of Nick Foles? Yeah? I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but I think you are what you are. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about it in the off season. That was
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  Speaker 1: the one we at least we felt like on the show.
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  Speaker 1: It was a risk. He never played sixteen games. Most
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  Speaker 1: of you have played at eleven right. Yea. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: I and JP you asked me this, I think, or
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  Speaker 1: Joe Divi. Somebody asked me before the show, would they
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  Speaker 1: go back to Nick Foles next week? I might, I might,
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  Speaker 1: just to see what you got. Yeah, they did. Go
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  Speaker 1: go let him play again at home last game. Go
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  Speaker 1: see what you got. If he stinks, then you know what.
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  Speaker 1: Then you really know what you have. But if he
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  Speaker 1: plays well, then you're go into the off season thinking okay,
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  Speaker 1: because I think they they've found out what they have
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  Speaker 1: in Minshew, and what Minshew is is a heck of
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  Speaker 1: a backup in the National Football League. I'd love to
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  Speaker 1: have him on my team. I think he's a great kid.
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  Speaker 1: I think he can come off and win two, three,
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  Speaker 1: four games if he has to for a team. But
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  Speaker 1: he isn't starter for sixteen games. I think that's that's
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  Speaker 1: readily apparent. If to everybody who watches his team, who
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  Speaker 1: gives you the best chance to win this week? If
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  Speaker 1: that decision of everybody coming back is that fears the
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  Speaker 1: thing gives you a chance to win this week, They're
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  Speaker 1: not go play Folds. That's what I would do, well,
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter if you're there. If you're David Dugging,
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  Speaker 1: what happens this week influences Okay, then I'll say it
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  Speaker 1: probably Nick Foles gives you a better chance to win. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know anymore. I'm at I'm at a loss.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Gardaman Shoo's regressed? Uh? As he regrets?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you go back and really
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  Speaker 1: look at the tape, a lot of his stuff was
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  Speaker 1: always off schedule, and he's a competitor and he things happen,
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  Speaker 1: and I just don't think that you can count on
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  Speaker 1: that in the long term to play football that way
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  Speaker 1: and win. So I don't want I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: say he was regressing. I just think that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: what how he plays. And sometimes it's gonna work, and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it's not gonna work. And it's be hard to
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  Speaker 1: be consistent that way because you don't operate within the
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  Speaker 1: rhythm of the offense. And isn't that why isn't that
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  Speaker 1: why the second half has been better for him than
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  Speaker 1: the first half, because he's just playing frantic, trying to
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  Speaker 1: play catch up. Correct. Yeah. Possibly, by the way, just
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  Speaker 1: for comparison to say, Julio Jones has ninety two receptions
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  Speaker 1: this year, Leonard Fordette has seventy six receptions. Far off?
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  Speaker 1: How about the yards per reception? Uh, they're probably a
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  Speaker 1: little bit different. Point three, isn't he tying the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: record for rega Jimmy had no Jimmy had a hundred one?
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  Speaker 1: Who got the boat by a back though? Yeah? By far.
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  Speaker 1: Julio's average is fourteen point three per catch. M Leonard
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  Speaker 1: for Netts averages six point nine per A little bit
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  Speaker 1: different type of reception, almost the first down difference. Let's
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  Speaker 1: come back in a moment. Well, M, well, because I
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  Speaker 1: Tony was suddenly Pete Priscoe. It's Tony's favorite holiday coming up, Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: He loves it. Pete. You know one of my he
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  Speaker 1: kind of made a crack when you said that was,
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  Speaker 1: Why is that Christmas is over and I can take
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  Speaker 1: What what is the matter with you? I'm joking. You're
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  Speaker 1: not you know you're not You're not joking. I'm kind
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  Speaker 1: of joking, Tony. You actually go out and shop. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I want to like. You don't fire your wife
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  Speaker 1: a nice Christmas present. I didn't say that. I do
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  Speaker 1: for me. Unbelievable. What Santa has elves? Why can't I
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  Speaker 1: have belts? I mean you're like your your kids, Yeah,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: my elves. You're big enough to be Santa. I'll say that. Well,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I'm on my way. I mean the time on, me
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: and Tony are both gonna play Santa next time? I
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: can start right there with you in the movie. But
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I joke about Christmas. I love Christmas. I love my
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: kids and seeing them because the only thing is everybody
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  Speaker 1: loves Christmas. You just can't wait to get it over
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: with so you can quit eat yeah, the eating and
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  Speaker 1: the credit card bill. The only think that, Like, I
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: enjoy the eating. I don't like the effects of meeting.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing, and I like Christmas. I don't
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: like the effects on my credit card bill from Christmas,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: you said last week, even like getting gifts, Yeah, because
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: they go on my credit card. I mean, like JP,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: you don't have kids and you're not married, Like one
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: thing you understand, Like as a kid growing up, Christmas
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: is great because you got these presents and there was
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: no like effect Santa. And then like you get married
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: and you have kids, and like it's so excited about
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Christmas and all the exciting things, and then you get
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: these gifts, like your kids get your gifts, your wife
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: gets you a gift, and then you, like a couple
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: of days go by and you get the credit card
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  Speaker 1: bill and you realize you just bought yourself gifts a grill. Unbelievable. Wow,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: just when I wanted kids. I mean, so it takes
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: a little bit of the excitement out of it for me.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Set CV, thanks kids. I didn't know. Wow that level.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: To Tony, we go, all right, we'll just get ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get each other something really nice. Each one thing
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go buy this, this, and this
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: for the house. Like here's a perfect I'll give you
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: a great story. And I hope my wife's up listening,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: so be so mad, but it's it's funny. So like
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: when I got married, so like I didn't know that
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: you were supposed to do this, so I didn't. But
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: my wife got me a marriage gift. I'm like, I
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: got you a ring and everything else about she got
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: me and it was a surprise. And so she bought
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: me a jets because we're moving to Florida and we're
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: gonna live on the water. She bought me a jet
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: ski as my wedding gift. Nice. It was so nice.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: And then I got the bill for it, and I
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: realized I bought myself a jet ski. By the way,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: if there was a marriage gift thing, I failed on
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: that one too. I did get one. I'm like, wait
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: a second. And she was expected, she didn't expect anything.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: She was not. She was expecting her jet ski. But
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: she got me a jet ski, and I'm like, I
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is awesome. Then it really dawned
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: at me quickly. I'm like, I just bought myself a
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: jet ski. But you know what, though, you wouldn't have
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: went out and bought yourself a jet ski. So she's surprised.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: You bought you one that you probably didn't use but
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: five times, and you sold back. I literally used it
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: like the first year we had it. We go out
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: and then it just sat there on the dock, and
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: so what did you do with it? You sold it back.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember what happened to it. It could
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: be still sitting on that dock. I think I might
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: have sold it with the house. I don't know, the
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: jet ski somewhere. But that's what That's what I think about.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about the quarterback real quick. When
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• 56:12
  Speaker 1: touched on the defense. Yet in their issues yesterday, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguar is Happy Hour, Second hour underway. J P.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Shadrick Tony was Sally Pete Prisco after the twelve loss
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: to the Atlanta Falcons in Week sixteen. The Jags have
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: now dropped six of the last seven. They're five and
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: ten for the season. They are secured in last place
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: in the a f C South, and there's plenty to discuss,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: of course, with no one looks really good right now,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: j J. Lock it, lock it, No, we're not locked. No,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: you locked the final seven games of the year. There's
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: no tape, there is literally no and we have sound
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: effects to that will forever live on. Right they are.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: And it's salute for Tony because he he locked all
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: zeven of them. Yeah, that that lived, well, that that lasts.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the quarterback. No, no, no, let's talk
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: about your long why it was dumb? Okay, that's all
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: I needed to hear. Now we can move on to
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. Next quarterback, final quarterback. Yes, Pete, you don't
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: think the quarterback of the futures on the roster is
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: what you're saying. I do not so the quarterback for
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: the long term, cute next year. And I will say this,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sure in the camp of not knowing, like, oh no,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: you're in the camp and you don't think so either,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: stop it. That's right, lean yes, um, so we'll just
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: say it. No so, but with yeah, I'm of the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: opinion you draft a quarterback every year and who you
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: know you have the guy? All right, I'm gonna pay
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: give you a scenario. Really do you agree with that? Yes? Okay,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: So would you take to uh? I would not personally
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: because based on and now, I haven't done any work
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: on him nothing, but my perception of him is he's
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: a smaller quarterback, which is fine, he's very mobile, big arm,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: but he is injury prone. He's been hurt every year,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: and so I would be worried about drafting a mobile, UH,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: smaller quarterback who has a history of injuries. It may
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: be more by the way, Yeah, he's not small, he's
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: just short. It's not like Murray Kyler Murray is small
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: and frail. Mccam Murray had no history of injury either. No,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: he didn't play that much either. Fair but to it
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: has I mean both ankles and a hip now to
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: surgically repaired ankles, a serious hip injury that there's a
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: lot of work to be done. That's true. But I'm
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: saying if he checks out on your medical I would
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: still I'd still be worried about his durability. Doesn't even
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: remind you the way he plays a little bit of
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Yeah, that's fair, and I'm not saying I
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: wouldn't take him. I would have to do a ton
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: of work in my my first gut, and we don't
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: know where the hip is. Yeah, my first gut is no,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: because of the injury history. I think Russell runs a Yes,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I think Russell's more athletic. Yes. Yeah, But if you
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: took the hip and said, okay, it's fine and he's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: going to move forward, is there gonna be no other
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: issues with the hip? It's just a flute thing. It happened.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Would you you wouldn't consider him in that spot in
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: the first round. I would consider every quarterback in the
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: first round. My My whole point is, I think as
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: an organization, you have to do a ton of work
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: on the quarterbacks coming out this year and also understand
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: what's coming up next year. Because if here, here's the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: decision at the we have the six overall it right now,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: I'm leaving you need big people, you need defensive linemen.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: I agree, But if there's a quarterback there you like,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: you gotta take him. Only if the guy at six
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: is a guy you think can be a franchise quarterback
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: that can win a championship for you. Well, okay, now,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: if Tah can't be the same guy right away, but
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: the medicals say in six months he'll be fine. You
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: also could do that and wait to the him play
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: then the next year and then playing the following. What
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: depends on what other quarterbacks are in this class. It
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: also depends for what class though, Okay, that's my point,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: and also then determines what does it look like for
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: next year? Okay, So here you go in Miami and
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: I live down here in South Florida. Was all tanking
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: for Tuah. Now it's tanking for Trevor and Jacksonville. No,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think that works. It doesn't work. It doesn't work.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Miami gonna end up with Is Miami gonna end up
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: with ta probably if they want him because of the injury.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: If he doesn't get hurt, they don't get him. Right, guys,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: there's no way. But he's not even the best quarterback.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: He's going one. Have you done anything on the Herbert
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: kid or He looks the part. He's got a great arm,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: and he is wildly inaccurate. You cannot be inaccurate in
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: the NFL. So that I brought the quarterback is I
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: think going? I mean the conversation. I would think I
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: would recommend in this offseason you have to be evaluating
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: quarterback because until you find that guy, you gotta draft him.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: And if it's not and and even if you don't
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: take him with the first two first rounders or even
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: a second rounder, you better third, fourth, fifth round. You
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: better draft a guy that you think he has a chance.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Like the later rounds. It's obviously a crapshoot and you
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: don't know, but you better draft a guy you think
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: has a chance to possibly be the guy until you Yeah.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: The funny thing is is you know a lot of
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: teams will look around and say, I'd get it. My
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: teams are pretty good. I get a better quarterback and
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: bring him in here, like the Jaguars thought they could
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: do with Nick Foles. But now this Jaguar team isn't
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: close to being that. There's not They're not a quarterback
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: veteran quarterback away from being a playoff team. Mhm, hindsight
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: will tell you there you go, Um, do you have it?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: We have not touched on the defense today has been
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: mainly offense on this show, and executives and head coaches
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: and all that. The defense. Yesterday they were coming off
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: of performance in the second half in Oakland where they
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: shut out the Oakland Raiders and gave the team a
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: chance to rally back into that football game. Yesterday, they
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: gave up five eighteen yards of offense the seven points
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: in the second half though, that's right, that's right, Silver Linings,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: that's right well, and another seven was a short field
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: that they got off the erect fumbled, so it was
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: I've said they had to takeaways to the way the
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: defense has to play is ben but don't break, and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: that's what they do. I mean, really, the way the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: defense would play would be don't bend at all. I'm
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: saying how they have to play based on their personnel
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: right now, Pete, that's what I'm saying, because they're not
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: gonna hold They're not gonna hold up and be a
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: dominating defense with the personnel they have on the field.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: By the way, um, Donald Payne has become like a
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: fantasy for all the people who play fantasy football in
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: the with defensive players. He's become goal. Look at all
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: the tackles against sixteen tackles. Yeah, so what if they're
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: all down the field? But I mean for fantasy, it
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter right. If no, it doesn't, that's how stupid
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: that is real life though they're they're a little bit
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: more down the field typically, Um, he has tackles. Jared
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Wilson leads the team with six for the year. Miles
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Jack had sixty six this year. So by the end
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: of the year, Donald Payne in the five or six
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: games is gonna have more tackles. In five games he
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: has another. If he has seven, he'll he'll tie Misles
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Jack and he has in Jared Wilson will play. So
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: who knows. But yeah, didn't they pick up the kid
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: from Yeah, they did the kid that was at on
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: the TV show and they can grab him up the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: linebacker what TV show? I don't know what you're talking about,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: the Last Chance You or something. Yeah. Yeah, then they
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: grabbed one of those kids off a practice squad the
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: other day. Yeah, I don't think he's playing that. He
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: was an active I believe. Yeah, the Dakota Allen is
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: in his name. Well, Dakota Allen was out there. He
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: was active yesterday. Okay, what's there? Yeah, he's uh, he
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: was on He was one of the featured characters way
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: back in the day at Last Chance You with the
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: documentary they did on Netflix. He he's the guy with
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: the real long hair, right, He's the guy he went
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: to He went to TCU, was a big time player,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: got in trouble at TCU, got kicked out, went to
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: the junior call and straightened out everything, went back to
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: TCU and played. I think it's the same time. Yeah,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Dakota Allen went to Texas Tech. His last school, Texas Tech,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: not Texas tex He went to Texas Tech, played there,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: got kicked out for something, and then went to the
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Last Chance You and came back and uh and played
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: a Texas Tech again. I think I was the kid
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: was out of football for a long for a while.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Pretty sure he's was active yesterday. I thought I heard.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: I thought I saw him out. I saw my special teams.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: There you go, he was active. My apologies, I was
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: inaccurate on I just I took a I took a
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: big swing in a minute. Yeah, you were inactive. No
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: one looked like and I don't. I didn't watch the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: tape Tony, but on the TV it looked like Tavin
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Bryant was active yesterday. At times he had a couple
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: of he had a couple of good plays against the
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: run where he got a field and created some tackles
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: for losses that he didn't get him, but he created him.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: And then there's other times where it's not very good.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: So just wildly inconsistent. The Falcons ran for a hundred
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: and thirty five yards yesterday as a team, well they
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: went for five eighteen. I mean they had a lot
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: of things who played well on defense. When you watch
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: the tape, Tony anybody Trey Herndon, he's he's actually played
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: pretty well. He's played better than uh A J. The
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: last couple Yes, yes, he yes, what's up with a J?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Had a good run for much of the season. He's
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: playing much better in the last two or three weeks
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: he hasn't played nearly as well. No, and now Trey
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: is I mean he's not a fast he's not fast,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: but he is a smart tough. By watching the tape,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: I think he studies a lot because he's in the
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: right spot. He gets caught for you know, grab it
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: every once in a while. Um. But I think Trey
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Herndon has had a good year since we're replacing Jalen
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Ramsey is three picks, he's around the ball. Um, he's
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: a tough kid. I'm not afraid the tackle. I think
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: he is. I think he's You look at Trey Herney,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: you say. You know what I guess is, don't worry
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: about the radio show. It's okay, don't worries probably some
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: you know one of those calls, those robot calls. You know.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: So based on sir, your your Windows computer is having
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• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: And I'll be like, okay, tell me what I need
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• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: So okay, that's great. Radio Back to the corners got
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: him based on the Saturday. My guess is AJ is
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: gonna be a cap casually. And so if you can
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: find a and maybe this is a guy you pick
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: in the first round. I don't know what the corners
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: look like in the draft this year, but you will
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: find a solid, a good number one corner. I think
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: Tray is a guy you can win football games at
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: that second corner position. Hey, look at the back seven yesterday.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: At times when let's just say they were in their
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: bass defense. Leon Jacobs, Donald Payne callitro per Wilson, Harrison
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: and boy a who That's why I said you're gonna
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: play Ben, but don't break. It's not a dominating group.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: And what was it? That's what they did. How many
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: are undrafted? Is six? Is it six? Ye? It's incredible
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: it is. That's where they are. Well. The good news
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: is wind Guard wasn't on the field much yesterday. Who
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: went wingered? His name? Winburg doesn't play here. I'm not
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: sure what team Winberg plays for. I said wingered. That's
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: not what you said the first time, Pete. I did
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: say Wingers. I did say wind Guardinger. You did say
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  Speaker 1: you see everybody who's everybody me? Okay, let's make sure
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  Speaker 1: you guys hated question one at Jay Coon June too.
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  Speaker 1: Why can't this offense get anything going until halfway through
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter? What changes? Um? I think they pay
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  Speaker 1: They play with more urgency and a frenetic frenetic frenetic pace.
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  Speaker 1: Frenetic is frenetic. Yes, that's what I said the first
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  Speaker 1: there we go, thank you. They play with more urgency,
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  Speaker 1: more frenetic pace, they you know, and I think that
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  Speaker 1: fits the kind of the style. And it's hard, though
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  Speaker 1: to do that. And and when you say there's more production,
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  Speaker 1: they scored a total of nine points in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: He's not wrong though, No, no, he's right. But the
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  Speaker 1: bar is not extremely high when you get three in
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  Speaker 1: the first stelf And so it's time, right. One of
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  Speaker 1: the things in defense is played different. I mean a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things go into it. So and we said
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  Speaker 1: this in the broadcast. It doesn't feel like and I
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  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like a lot of production is happening in
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  Speaker 1: the offense in rhythm like on time, like he hits
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  Speaker 1: his fifth step and the ball is gone um or
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  Speaker 1: can't see it, take off, start running around or hit
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  Speaker 1: make something happen. And that's just a hard way to
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  Speaker 1: play consistent guys open Tony on the tape yesterday, Sometimes
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: not always, Yeah, And I think Doug said it really well.
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  Speaker 1: He said, listen, they were they're pressing. They're basically playing
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  Speaker 1: really aggressive. And if a team's gonna played that aggressive
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  Speaker 1: with the single line safety, you have to take deep shots.
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  Speaker 1: And there were deep shots. There was one on one
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: outside chances they could have taken, like the one they
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  Speaker 1: completed to Connley when he throws that Conley is not open.
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  Speaker 1: He just one on one and he separates. Well, that
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  Speaker 1: happened a handful of times in the first half and
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: he just didn't throw it. So now is that play
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  Speaker 1: calling and they're telling him not to. Is that him
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  Speaker 1: not seeing it, is him not having time or is
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  Speaker 1: it all the above? Typically that's all the above, UM.
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  Speaker 1: But I think the biggest difference is just the urgency
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  Speaker 1: in the in the crazy nous off schedule play type
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  Speaker 1: of UM feel that it has in the second half,
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  Speaker 1: and the way defenses play a little bit looser and
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  Speaker 1: change things up because they have big leads. The other
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: thing is is those aren't exactly better in corners they
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  Speaker 1: were working against yesterday. So you know, Oliver and and
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  Speaker 1: sheffields a rookie. He's gonna be a good player, but
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: those are he's a second year player in the first
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  Speaker 1: year player, and they had Oliver struggled much of the season.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta win outside. But again, I I'm going back
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  Speaker 1: to what I said earlier. I think Minshew plays better
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  Speaker 1: in a frenetic, up tempo kind of free lance and backyards,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of game, rather than the structure of
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  Speaker 1: taking the staff, put my foot in the ground, going
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  Speaker 1: through my progressions, getting the ball out. But it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to win. You can't win that consistent. No, you can't.
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  Speaker 1: You can't, you cannot, absolutely not. All right, next question
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  Speaker 1: choose what two players would you draft in the first round.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Derek Brown of Auburn. I love him,
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  Speaker 1: great player, and if two is coming out of take
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  Speaker 1: to it. We can pick any player we want. You
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  Speaker 1: any any two players Joe Burrow and Derek Brown. Joe
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  Speaker 1: gonna package the picks to get up to one. That's
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying. I'm gonna take Joe Burrow and Derek Brown.
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  Speaker 1: They're both gonna slide to any player. What a draft
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  Speaker 1: that would be? Actually, I probably I wouldn't. I probably
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  Speaker 1: take Chase to take Andrew Thomas and Derek Brown. Andrew Thomas,
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  Speaker 1: he's the guard from attack from Georgia. Yeah, they have
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  Speaker 1: a good guard there too. Or if I didn't go
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  Speaker 1: big big, I take Andrew Thomas and Jeoffrey Akuda, the
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  Speaker 1: corner from Ohio State. You were talking about the elite
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  Speaker 1: corner Tony. He spoke a great kid, great kids, big
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  Speaker 1: men win football games, big human, big big. I told
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  Speaker 1: gotta have Yeah. I love that Derek Brown from all
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  Speaker 1: good player, But I haven't in fairness, I wait to
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen Georgia play this year. Um like a
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  Speaker 1: whole game. I just saw highlights. I watched Auburn. I
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  Speaker 1: like that he was good in that game, run too,
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  Speaker 1: and I watched a lot of shark. Brown reminds me
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: of not a lot there. Who's that Chris Jones? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's fair good. That's a good comparison. So I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to digging in and watching a bunch of college
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  Speaker 1: tape here. So this seems coming up soon. Unfortunately won't
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  Speaker 1: be playoff tape. No. Next question, a son of Duval
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  Speaker 1: shot CON's record since buying the Jags is now thirty
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  Speaker 1: seven and ninety. If he does retain maronan called Well
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  Speaker 1: next season, why should the fans expect anything different? That's
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  Speaker 1: the question of the week. I'll be honest with you.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: If they don't retain Maroon and called Well and there's
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  Speaker 1: new coach coming in, I wouldn't expect much different either
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  Speaker 1: right away. Your roster is what your roster is, and
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  Speaker 1: their hands strung by the cat. It's it's not a
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  Speaker 1: good situation, so you better be you know. That's why
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  Speaker 1: I think it's weird that they're not going to make
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  Speaker 1: a change, because at least if you make a change,
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  Speaker 1: then you start the process all over again. This, if
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  Speaker 1: you don't make a change, is kind of letting it continue. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is a tough one. It really is. Let's move
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: on at Matt Curley Riiser has the next question, the
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  Speaker 1: team is closer to a rebuild than adding a few
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  Speaker 1: regime stays. Would it essentially be a three year extension
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  Speaker 1: And I agree with Well. I mean, like I'm sitting here,
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  Speaker 1: question Basically, he's saying the team is gonna be bad.
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  Speaker 1: Whether they keep Brown or get rid of them, the
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  Speaker 1: team's gonna be bad. Why do you just say, why
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  Speaker 1: do you just add just Moron? What about Dave? Well?
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Dave too? Both? Because I think the coach influences the
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: immediate part of the team much. Yeah, it's been the biggest,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: the biggest. Here. Here's the one thing you have to consider.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: The roster is not very good, and part of rebuilding
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  Speaker 1: your point of saying, if if you move forward, you're
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  Speaker 1: basically saying one or two things, we have the guys
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• 1:28:22
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna be I think I know
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  Speaker 1: what you're talking about. You know what what I'm talking about? JP? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how much money would it take to get to agree
• 1:28:35
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  Speaker 1: f C South results from week six seen the Texans
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  Speaker 1: had five takeaways from the Buccaneers in a twenty when
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: the Texans secure the a f C South Division title,
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  Speaker 1: the Texans, Yeah, no, I don't think so either, especially
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  Speaker 1: without will Fall or Will Floor. They are different. Played.
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  Speaker 1: He got hurt. I did the games, I know, but
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  Speaker 1: he played, he started, got hurt. He's not playing this
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  Speaker 1: week for sure. He gets hurt, like every Tuesday. It's growing. Um.
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  Speaker 1: They're wildly inconsistent. They're up and down. I don't think
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: their quarterback wasn't very good the other day. I mean
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: they barel. No, they couldn't against Tampa. But Tampa is
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  Speaker 1: a great run defense, really good. Those two guys are good.
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  Speaker 1: Is a stud uh they? I mean they barely beat
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  Speaker 1: the Buccaneers and the Buccaneers turned it over five times,
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  Speaker 1: four interceptions, one of them up pick six by Winston
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  Speaker 1: another one they got the ball at point blank range
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  Speaker 1: and they barely won that. The Buccaneers had the ball
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  Speaker 1: to win it. Jamis could have thrown on them all
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  Speaker 1: day to except for those it guys open all day.
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  Speaker 1: And he doesn't even have Evans and uh, he had
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  Speaker 1: everyone opened and they were playing with their third, fifth,
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  Speaker 1: and sixth receiver because their first, second, and fourth receiver
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  Speaker 1: were all hurt. Crazy. I mean, I don't see the
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  Speaker 1: Texas doing anything in the looks like the Bills will
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: go play in the Texans probably in the first round,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: and they could beat the Bills because the Bills struggled
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  Speaker 1: to score points. And you know, if if Deshaun Watson's
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: running around making plays, you know, will full or if
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: he's back after taking a week off, I mean, they're
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: different because he stretches the field, which opens up with
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  Speaker 1: them beating the Bills just because the Bills can't score
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  Speaker 1: for any very many points. But after that, I don't
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  Speaker 1: see a team in the But it wasn't surprised to
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  Speaker 1: see the Bills beat them. No, not at all, not
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  Speaker 1: at all. Larry Tuntel is going to the Pro Bowl.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: He hadn't played to that this year. He has the
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: most false starts in the NFL at twelve, and I
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: think he's been penalized eighteen times like that, and he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't played to that. He shouldn't be going to the
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  Speaker 1: him on tape and watch him the other day? What
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: do you think? He's fine? He's solid, he's solid, good player.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's a good player. But to mistakes. Do
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  Speaker 1: you go to their defense on their defensive front, where
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: who's Raiders? DJ Raider is good? But who else is good?
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  Speaker 1: His name is DJ Reader? But yes, I mean you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. By the way, he's a Clemson
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  Speaker 1: he's another Clemson kid. He's a good player. Uh uh
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  Speaker 1: Whitney merciless. You know he can get it going a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, I said a little bit. Okay, za is
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  Speaker 1: McKenney was hurt with a concussion. Their back half is
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  Speaker 1: not very good. Um yeah, I mean they struggled. They
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  Speaker 1: struggle the rest of the past or that's there's no
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  Speaker 1: doubt about that. How about them? How about the Tennessee Titans.
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  Speaker 1: They fail yesterday, but they're in the sixth spot right now.
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  Speaker 1: If they win, they're in. Yes, if they beat the Texans.
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  Speaker 1: After the Texans one um and so now it comes
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  Speaker 1: go to the playoffs. Bill O'Brien came out today and
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  Speaker 1: said he's not resting anyone. They're playing to win the game.
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  Speaker 1: So that's advantage Steelers because because the three seats, right,
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  Speaker 1: But it's advantaged Steelers because the Steelers. The Ravens came
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  Speaker 1: out and said they're resting everybody. Yeah, but I somebody
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens, isn't he still better than Duck Hodges? Yes?
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• 1:37:50
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday. But as much as you'll have eaten from
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  Speaker 1: Are we secured? Like there's no chance of us like
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  Speaker 1: like this can't this game can't count for like three
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  Speaker 1: wins and so we're not last place in the division.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing as it is right now. You'd rather be
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  Speaker 1: and eleven, get a better draft pick. Is how many?
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• 1:39:49
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  Speaker 1: know that, Yes, he yes, pay attention. He's the best
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  Speaker 1: in trouble. Patriots over the Bills, four or seven team.
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  Speaker 1: The Patriots just find a way, man, I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 1: I'm picking them? Nope, I'm picking still. I'd probably when
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  Speaker 1: recover late. He was six yards behind the receiver. Well yeah,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: because the guy ran by him when he was flat footed. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was six So to say to say that Jalen
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  Speaker 1: didn't get burned, he got burnt. He didn't do his job.
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  Speaker 1: The safety got burnt as well. If you had the
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  Speaker 1: rate the problem on that play between the two of them,
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  Speaker 1: the problem goes to the safety and goes to Jen.
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  Speaker 1: And this is why I disagree, because even if the
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  Speaker 1: safety is in the right spot, garoppolo, who could throw
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  Speaker 1: a line drive because it's no different than the cover two.
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  Speaker 1: When there's that little bit of a hole, you give
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  Speaker 1: that much space. There were a ton of defensive backs
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter, Gerald Alexander's played with the Jaguars, some other
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: defensive backs. They all said that Jalen was playing the
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  Speaker 1: trail technique. It was a bad trail technique, but the safety.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you, Pete, were saying the same thing,
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  Speaker 1: but just you know, wash your hands. And what Jalen
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  Speaker 1: did after the game blaming the safety in the in
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  Speaker 1: the that was terrible. That sound was him the bus
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  Speaker 1: running over there. He literally just ran over the guy
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: like he did everything perfect. While we're at it, Dante
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: Valler now is eleven sacks on this season. Whatever, I
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: don't care about that. But he also had a big
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  Speaker 1: tweet this afternoon too. But Jalen should what Jail should
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  Speaker 1: have SAIDs Hey, listen, I gotta do a better job
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  Speaker 1: in trail and we gotta do better job over the top.
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  Speaker 1: It's on both of us. That's what you said. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I agree. Dante Fowler might be getting a call from
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  Speaker 1: the league office on that one. One of the tweet.
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  Speaker 1: Yes you can, you can't read it. Let's move on.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: But before we move on, yes, how about how does
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  Speaker 1: the locker room handle that, Pete? With Jalen running over
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: just the and Donald as a rookie ran over, I
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: come on, you gotta have a little more compassion for
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: the rookie, right, doesn't wet all or some of those
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: veterans rabbing by the by the shirt collar and say
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  Speaker 1: what do you do one? And guess what they're stuck
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  Speaker 1: with him. Nothing's better than than see him playing trail
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  Speaker 1: technique like that. I remember all he wanted to do here.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: It could plain because he wanted to play bump and
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: run and press all the time. And he doesn't do
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: any of that much of that either. How about him
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: just standing there to Pete, I know it's terrible, literally
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: standing Ravens over the Browns. Ravens are good. Shocker, Uh,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: Dolphins over the Bengals overtime game? Did you see the
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: end of this one? The Bengals I scored, got the
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: on side kick, scored again, went for two or two
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  Speaker 1: point conversion run by Dalton to tie it with no
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  Speaker 1: time left to go to overtime. That it was a
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: great great It was funny because the two four worst
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: teams in the league played yesterday, well not with the
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: in terms of record, the jack Wards, but um, but
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: they played two great games. Because that was a great game,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: was fun to watch. And then the other one was
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: the Redskins and the Giants, and that was a great
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: game to watch. So Pete, Redskins, Giants, Dolphins, Bangos, Jags
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: all did all did a round robin. Who's finishing first,
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: who's last? Giants will finish first, Dolphins will finish second,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: Bengals finished third, Redskins will finish fourth, and the Jaguars
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: are fifth. So you think the Jaguars are the worst
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: team in the NFL right now? Right now? There are
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: yes the reverse power rankings. Do they have the worst
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  Speaker 1: roster in the NFL? Yeah? Okay, yes. To answer your question,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: if you were the Giant, would you rather have Barkley
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  Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones and Dan Evan Ingram and and uh
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: young corners that are growing in Baker and guys like
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  Speaker 1: would you rather have the Jaguars roster? I think it's
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: pretty easy question, isn't it. Well you just answered it. Wow,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: that's stung. That one's stung right there. That was right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know you're going down that path, Tony. I'm
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: just asking ask you. You shall receive Jets over the
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: Steelers sixteen to ten. The Broncos beat the Lions. It
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: sounds like they found a quarterback in Denburg. You like
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: that guy. I haven't watched enough tape on them. I mean,
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: I know I talked to my dad, who's a huge
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: Bronco fam They all love him, so you can spend
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  Speaker 1: it now. And he's aggressive and he'll take chances, and
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: he's I like them. I think he's gonna be good.
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  Speaker 1: They do have their quarterback Raiders over the Chargers seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: They still have a chance. They're saying, there's a chance.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of things have to happen for them to
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  Speaker 1: get in. Eagles over the Cowboys or the Cowboys done Pete. Well,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: they still have a chance. And and believe it or not,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: the chance isn't that far FETs. The Eagles have to
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: play the Giants, who they struggle with last week. And
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: the Giants look good against the Redskins, and I mean
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: they struggle with think about it, Eli Manning almost beat
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: him at Philly a couple of weeks ago. So if
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  Speaker 1: they go there and lose and the Cowboys win, the
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: Cowboys are in. If you had to pick today, I
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: know it's only Monday. We'll find out a lot about
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: injuries and everything else. If you had to pick Giants Eagles,
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: who are you picking right now? Yeah? I think the
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: veteran I think they have enough guys who've been in
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: big games, guys for the Super Bowl that They know
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: what it means to get up for one game and
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: find a way to dig deep. I think the Eagles
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: g gonna done it, but I think it's a tough game.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's a post game. Yeah, absolutely, Cardinals over
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks. They have a lot of injuries, key injury Carson.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: Their best back is pennyback healthy, No, he's out for
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: the years now. Al if we're talking about signing Marshawn
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: Lynch the Dwayne Brown, their left tackles won't play in
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. They're destinated and their defense is struggled all
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: year to stop people. Um Having said all that, they're
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: gonna beat the Niners on Sunday night, do you think?
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: And so you think they get the number one seed,
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: then Packers are gonna win out and the Factors will
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: get the number one seed. And then so who would
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: be the two seed? It would be in the Seahawks
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: or the Saints if they tie and be safe because
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: they went there and beating with Teddy Bridgewater. Remember the
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: Chiefs over the Bears three and Patrick Mahomes was counting
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: to ten with his fingers on the run out of
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: the tunnel. I mean you're talking about he still bothered
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: by you're still bothered by that. I don't any how
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: about this. If you're the Bears and you're Maggie and
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: Pace and you're sitting there, you're watching this game, how
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: often during the sixty minutes of football do you think
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: that we traded picks up to get Drabinsky when we
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: could have just sat right where we were and got
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: my homes hm. Or you could be guys in Jacksonville
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: and watch that game and think, oh my god, we
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: let Allen Robbins and get away. Well that's not good either.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: Thanks Pete Wow for bringing that up. It's time for
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, a battle in the NFC North between
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: two of the best teams in the NFC. The Green
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: Bay Packers have won three in a row to move
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: to eleven and three, and they can finish anywhere from
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: the top seed to the sixth seed. To win Tonight
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: secures the division title. They're headed to Minneapolis to face
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: the ten and four Minnesota Vikings, who've pinched the playoff
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: spot but need to win out and have the Packers
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: lose out to win the NFC North. Oh you got tonight, Vikings,
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: Although no, don uh Dalvin Cook does worry me, but
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: I think the Vikings get it done in that stadium.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not and I'm not sold on the Packers. I am.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: And if you're gonna give me Aaron Rodgers against Kirk Cousins,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: who's O and eight on Monday Night, I'm taking Darren
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: d I forgot about the O and eight. I'm going
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: Packers big game, Kirk. Not really, it would be a
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: good I I'll tell you what. There's been Monday. Like
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: in the past, the Monday night games, I'd be like, yeah,
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: I'd go back and watch it, or I'd have it
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: on and I'd be doing other stuff. This year, there's
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: been a handful of games like it's like much must
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: watch TV, Like I'll go home, I'll eat. I'll tell
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: I already told my wife. My wife's like, hey, let's
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: wrap presents to night, play Christmas music and watch Christmas movies.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: I said, wrong, And I'm watching football, baby. You can
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: go wrap somewhere else. That's how it's done in my house. Really,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: that's right. There's a king only one. And when it's
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: Monday night football, we're not wrapping presents and we're not
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: listening to Christmas Music's j the presidents are gonna be
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: wrapped in the same room where the game is on.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: He's gonna have one eye on the game and one
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: eye on the present wrapping. I don't wrap presents. I
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: don't buy presents. I just paid. I'm a horrible wrapper.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: You're a horrible person. Oh my goodness, you're the one
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about in Christmas. I'm v pete. No, I
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: don't wrap either, and you're a better person than me,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: so we're pretty equal, all right, pick are you wrapping presents? No?
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: I have a bought a darn thing. I have been
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: a grinch this year. I mean, I love all everybody
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: and all this stuff. I don't I'm not. No, he's
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: gonna wake up by himself. Waffle house is open, waffle house,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: Light a cigar. That's the plan. Probably about ten o'clock,
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: sit on this back porch and ponder what happened? How
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: do you get here? Like every other day? That's like
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: every other day of the week. That's whatdy? So what
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: are you trying to say? He's gonna have a lonely
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: boy Christmas? Is that what you're saying? No, we're good.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm not gonna I'm gonna stop. Yeah, I'm stopping.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: I'm stopping. I love JPS. Believable, unbelievable. Yeah, we get
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: a bunch of other kind of people around the building
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: that are JP JPS and being here grinding. That is
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: not true. That will be far away from this building.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: I can assure you of that. The Jaguars get the
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: Colts on Sunday. What's your initial feeling of this football
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: game to feeling like it will be the last game
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: of the year and the last loss of the year,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: and all those locks that you made, you would have
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: gone one in six. Is that correct? There's zero evidence
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: of any locks. I don't recall ever making a lock.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: What I do recall is after the Houston games saying
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: that if they continue to play this way, they might
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: not win another game. Remember that, But you did ever?
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: I said that, there's there's all the video there. We
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: want zero that was created because of you. I created
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: a monster you did for yourself. Let me I'll lock something,
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: let me locks something it. Now you're back. I thought
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: you quit the locks. I'm gonna lock. No, I'm not
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: gonna I was gonna lock. I was about saying I'm
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: gonna have a great Christmas but my locks have been
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: so bad they're gonna lose that too. My locks have
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: been so bad this year. I don't want to jinx it.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: No locks. Let's hope everybody who listens to the show
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: has a great Christmas. How about that? Yeah? Absolutely, enjoy it.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: Enjoy family, enjoy food, have a good time, and for
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: all your husbands out there, enjoy your credit card bill
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: at the end of it. Very Christmas. We'll talk to
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: you or whatever you yeah to Yes, I'm JP. We'll
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: catch you next time. Merry Christmas. We'll see you next week.
• 1:59:47
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