Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Katie Woolf spoke with Minister for Health, Tourism and Hospitality Natasha Fyles
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The Minister for Health and also the Minister for Tourism.
- 0:02Speaker 1: Natasha Philes joins me on the line. Good morning to
- 0:05Speaker 1: your minister.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie, Good morning listeners.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Now, Minister, firstly, most of us obviously had a great weekend,
- 0:12Speaker 1: but unfortunately some people were targets of senseless break ins
- 0:16Speaker 1: homes and businesses. The most notable was the Fanny bay IgA,
- 0:21Speaker 1: which was targeted in a brazen attack yesterday morning.
- 0:25Speaker 3: Minister. Have you seen that vision and what was your reaction?
- 0:29Speaker 2: Oh, Katie, I have seen the vision. It was hard
- 0:31Speaker 2: to avoid it yesterday on social media and it's unacceptable.
- 0:34Speaker 2: It's just appalling. You know, people should be relaxing over Easter.
- 0:37Speaker 2: I know that many small business owners particularly take the
- 0:41Speaker 2: opportunity with the two public holidays, you know, to have
- 0:44Speaker 2: a break and for them to have to see that
- 0:47Speaker 2: footage and then deal with that is just not acceptable
- 0:50Speaker 2: and so we have got a range of measures. I
- 0:53Speaker 2: have to be careful around that specific case now, Katie,
- 0:56Speaker 2: because that breaking is now police have made an arrest
- 0:59Speaker 2: or charged to sixteen year old as you mentioned, so
- 1:01Speaker 2: it's the matter before the courts. But it is simply unacceptable, Minister.
- 1:06Speaker 1: The Chief Minister Michael Gunner did ABC Radio this morning.
- 1:09Speaker 1: He's been absolutely slammed on social media for his comments
- 1:13Speaker 1: on there. It is. It's really clear to me and
- 1:16Speaker 1: really clear to the whole community. I think at the
- 1:19Speaker 1: moment that the rhetoric that's coming out of the government
- 1:21Speaker 1: when it comes to youth crime just isn't getting through.
- 1:25Speaker 1: You know, a lot of everyday Territorians are feeling incredibly
- 1:28Speaker 1: fed up. Why are we still in a situation where
- 1:31Speaker 1: it just seems like this is the norm in the
- 1:34Speaker 1: Northern Territory.
- 1:36Speaker 2: So, Katie, it's been the space that we saw the
- 1:38Speaker 2: Royal Commission into Youth Detention and Child Protection and a
- 1:41Speaker 2: huge body of work undertaken, and there has been a
- 1:44Speaker 2: lot of work since then, both by Minister Wakefield and
- 1:47Speaker 2: now continued with Minister Warden, but supported by other ministers.
- 1:50Speaker 2: You know, police have a role to play in this,
- 1:52Speaker 2: myself as Minister of Alcohol Policy. So we are doing
- 1:55Speaker 2: a lot of work. But we do need to make
- 1:57Speaker 2: sure that Territorians understand that we have got a board
- 1:59Speaker 2: and comprehensive range of measures, you know, and there's specifics
- 2:03Speaker 2: that I can go into now that and we do
- 2:05Speaker 2: need to share that detail with territory and so that
- 2:07Speaker 2: they can understand that their frustrations are being heard. And
- 2:11Speaker 2: some of these spaces are difficult to make change in
- 2:14Speaker 2: working with young people, but we have to keep at it. Now.
- 2:17Speaker 1: One of these one of these changes that was announced
- 2:20Speaker 1: obviously it was a couple of weeks ago, this legislation
- 2:23Speaker 1: that is aimed at trying to stop RECIDIVIS defenders. Is
- 2:27Speaker 1: this legislation going to be passed and will there be
- 2:31Speaker 1: a time frame for the implementation of these legislative changes
- 2:35Speaker 1: in May?
- 2:37Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Katie, we've said that we will. You know
- 2:40Speaker 2: that bail is a privilege, not a right, so that
- 2:42Speaker 2: automatic revocation of fail we are looking at that, Expanding
- 2:45Speaker 2: the list of prescribed defenses, expanding electronic monitoring by police
- 2:49Speaker 2: and also the ability to record breach of bail information
- 2:53Speaker 2: so that judges know how many times the use of
- 2:55Speaker 2: breach bail when they're making senset thing decisions, and also
- 2:59Speaker 2: around holding young people to account within the Traffic Act
- 3:02Speaker 2: looking at alcohol and other drugs, we know the sense
- 3:04Speaker 2: of urgency KD. That would be a specific question for
- 3:07Speaker 2: the Minister responsible for that legislation in terms of when
- 3:09Speaker 2: they intend to introduce that to the House and what
- 3:12Speaker 2: debate and passage they see. But we certainly hear the
- 3:15Speaker 2: urgency from Territorians and that will be taking into account.
- 3:19Speaker 1: The Chief Minister said last Monday that he wants this
- 3:22Speaker 1: to He does want it to go through in May.
- 3:25Speaker 1: I mean, is this going to pass on urgency in May?
- 3:29Speaker 2: So in terms of urgency, just for your listeners, what
- 3:31Speaker 2: that would mean is that the legislation would be introduced
- 3:34Speaker 2: and then it would be debated and passed in that
- 3:36Speaker 2: same parliamentary sitting. So we certainly sense the urgency from Territorians,
- 3:40Speaker 2: and I assume the Ministry is working hard to that timeframe.
- 3:43Speaker 2: But as I said, it would be a question specifically
- 3:45Speaker 2: for them.
- 3:46Speaker 3: Which minister is it, Which minister is responsible for it?
- 3:49Speaker 2: So some of it falls under police and some of
- 3:51Speaker 2: it falls under Youth justice, is my understanding.
- 3:53Speaker 1: I mean as a minister of the Gunner government, though,
- 3:57Speaker 1: do you feel as though this needs to pass as
- 3:59Speaker 1: quickly as possible to try to help Territorians to avoid
- 4:03Speaker 1: a situation like we're in from the weekend.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Yes, Katie, I do, but we also need to make
- 4:08Speaker 2: sure that we get it right. There's nothing that would
- 4:10Speaker 2: be worse than rushing through legislation and not having been thorough.
- 4:15Speaker 2: So we certainly understand that sense of urgency. We want
- 4:18Speaker 2: to get that done urgently, but we have to get
- 4:20Speaker 2: it right.
- 4:21Speaker 1: Okay, I have there's plenty of messages starting to come
- 4:24Speaker 1: through already, but I do want to move along because
- 4:26Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the vaccine roll out.
- 4:29Speaker 1: How many vaccines have now been administered in the Northern Territory.
- 4:33Speaker 2: So, Katie, the latest figures that I've been provided this
- 4:35Speaker 2: morning is that we've had over eleven thousand vaccinations administered
- 4:38Speaker 2: in the territory and the breakdown of doubt is around
- 4:41Speaker 2: eight thousand, seven hundred have been delivered by NTE Health
- 4:43Speaker 2: and around two thsy three hundred by the Commonwealth through
- 4:46Speaker 2: both the Age Care, Disability and GP program. And we
- 4:50Speaker 2: also have got over two thousand Territorians Katie, that have
- 4:53Speaker 2: received their second dose, so they're fully vaccinated against COVID nineteen.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Now is that in line with the timeline that you
- 4:58Speaker 1: guys had set out?
- 5:01Speaker 2: So, Katie, we've been working hard towards the timeframe of
- 5:03Speaker 2: having everyone vaccinated by October. The Commonwealth have said that
- 5:08Speaker 2: we should aim to have everyone having their first dose
- 5:10Speaker 2: by October, and we're still working towards that. The church's challenge, Katie,
- 5:14Speaker 2: has always been our large geographical distance, but we've done
- 5:17Speaker 2: a huge body of work around making sure that we
- 5:19Speaker 2: get the vaccine out into regional the remote areas. So
- 5:22Speaker 2: the vaccine has been delivered in Noulan Boy, Catherine TANet
- 5:25Speaker 2: Creek and of course Alice Springs, and during April we'll
- 5:28Speaker 2: start to deliver the vaccine in some of those smaller,
- 5:31Speaker 2: more remote locations. But the groundwork is being done now,
- 5:34Speaker 2: and that means we go into a community, we meet
- 5:37Speaker 2: with the community, we make sure they understand the vaccine
- 5:40Speaker 2: and how important it is, and if we have to
- 5:42Speaker 2: go back a second and third time, Katie, we will.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Whilst we're there, we also look at the logistics of
- 5:46Speaker 2: delivering that vaccine. We have to be COVID face in
- 5:48Speaker 2: our management of providing the vaccine. So all of that
- 5:51Speaker 2: work's being undertaken and we're looking forward to starting to
- 5:54Speaker 2: visit those communities and actually provide the vaccine through April.
- 5:57Speaker 3: So at this point in time, are there here in
- 6:00Speaker 3: the Northern Territory.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Katie, I don't feel that there are. We certainly have
- 6:04Speaker 2: seen some supply issues from Europe, so Astra Zeneca, we've
- 6:09Speaker 2: seen delays there. But from our perspective, we were always
- 6:13Speaker 2: going to start slow and steady, and we wanted to
- 6:15Speaker 2: get our one A frontline work who's vaccinated. We've achieved
- 6:19Speaker 2: the majority of those one A workers. Of course, there's
- 6:21Speaker 2: the workforces forever changing, there's new people joining, some people
- 6:24Speaker 2: might have been on leave. But I feel that we've
- 6:27Speaker 2: done a strong job. We don't have that community transmission
- 6:30Speaker 2: so that we can take the time to get it right,
- 6:32Speaker 2: but we do know there is a sense of evergency
- 6:35Speaker 2: in that we want to get back to life, you know,
- 6:37Speaker 2: pre COVID as best we can, and so the vaccines
- 6:39Speaker 2: are important tool in doing that.
- 6:41Speaker 1: So when will all those remaining clinics be set up
- 6:43Speaker 1: to vaccinate everybody, all the ones that you know, the
- 6:46Speaker 1: others that would do to be set up. Is that
- 6:48Speaker 1: process still underway, Katie.
- 6:51Speaker 2: So I don't have the actual clinics in front of me,
- 6:53Speaker 2: but for any of your listeners, and I know people
- 6:55Speaker 2: are really interested in this. If you go to the
- 6:56Speaker 2: federal government Department of Health website, you answer three quick
- 6:59Speaker 2: questions and it puts you in which phase you are,
- 7:02Speaker 2: and also where best to get the vaccination and you
- 7:05Speaker 2: might find that your local GP clinic does provide it,
- 7:08Speaker 2: or you might have to go to a nearby clinic.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Around a dozen clinics GP practices in the territory are
- 7:14Speaker 2: already offering the vaccine, and in the next couple of
- 7:16Speaker 2: weeks around a dozen more will also be providing that.
- 7:20Speaker 2: I was speaking to someone yesterday who said that they
- 7:22Speaker 2: were a bit surprised. They had a relatively easy experience.
- 7:25Speaker 2: They rang up and their GP was able to book
- 7:27Speaker 2: them in and they're getting the vaccine there within the
- 7:30Speaker 2: next week and they're really pleased to be able to
- 7:32Speaker 2: go to their regular GP. They had some other underlying
- 7:34Speaker 2: health issues, So encourage people to visit that Federal Government
- 7:37Speaker 2: Department of Health website. We'll send the links through to
- 7:39Speaker 2: your team, but also contact their GP clinic to find
- 7:42Speaker 2: out are they providing it or where's the best location.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Now, Minister, it is being reported nationally that there's a
- 7:47Speaker 1: delay in the role out at pharmacy, So Australian pharmacists
- 7:51Speaker 1: say that they'll not start administering that COVID nineteen jab
- 7:54Speaker 1: until June. As the country's delayed vaccine roll out suffers.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Yet another blow is what's being reported is that the case.
- 8:02Speaker 3: For the Northern Territory.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Are we going to be in a situation where pharmacies
- 8:05Speaker 1: are actually able to deliver that vaccine and is that process,
- 8:09Speaker 1: I mean, is it on track to start soon.
- 8:13Speaker 2: So pharmacy is in pharmacists, trained health professionals. They are
- 8:16Speaker 2: a key part of vaccination schedules, you know, year round.
- 8:20Speaker 2: I've had conversations with pharmacists in the territory and they
- 8:23Speaker 2: are certainly a part of the COVID nineteen vaccine response.
- 8:27Speaker 2: My understanding is they're a little further down the schedule, Katie.
- 8:30Speaker 2: I don't have the specifics in front of me around
- 8:32Speaker 2: what phase they were going to come online. We know
- 8:35Speaker 2: that some pharmacists are able to provide that they have
- 8:39Speaker 2: this space, they can provide that additional area for people
- 8:42Speaker 2: to wait after the vaccine, and so they've been doing
- 8:44Speaker 2: some of that logistical work with pharmacies and when it
- 8:47Speaker 2: was appropriate for them to come online and start issuing
- 8:50Speaker 2: the vaccine, they would. I'd have to get back to
- 8:52Speaker 2: you on specifics around what you've just mentioned with them
- 8:55Speaker 2: being pushed back to June nationally.
- 8:57Speaker 1: Okay, So but it is still going to be happening
- 8:59Speaker 1: in the two territory and you feel as though everything's
- 9:01Speaker 1: on track at this point.
- 9:04Speaker 2: So Katie, as I just said, pharmasister a key rollout
- 9:07Speaker 2: for all vaccines and I see them playing a role
- 9:09Speaker 2: in COVID nineteen. We've had those discussions with them, but
- 9:12Speaker 2: they're certainly logistics that we have to work through and
- 9:15Speaker 2: so we'll continue to do that.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Okay, there's a lot of talk this morning that Australia
- 9:19Speaker 1: is going to open to New Zealand today for travel.
- 9:22Speaker 3: What is nty tourism being told at this point, So.
- 9:27Speaker 2: It would be really exciting for you know, more people
- 9:30Speaker 2: to come to the territory. And we know that the
- 9:33Speaker 2: federal government has certainly flagged that two way travel bubble
- 9:37Speaker 2: with New Zealand for some time, but there is commentary
- 9:40Speaker 2: coming through that it should be finalized by the end
- 9:41Speaker 2: of the week. So we're expecting the New Zealand Prime
- 9:44Speaker 2: Minister to make an announcement. So if we were to
- 9:46Speaker 2: see that, we certainly would make sure that we pivot
- 9:49Speaker 2: tourism in the territory across to New Zealand. They have
- 9:52Speaker 2: an amazing natural landscape and certainly would appreciate what is
- 9:56Speaker 2: offered in the territory with some of our icons in
- 9:59Speaker 2: Ularo for Examp Kakadu, so exciting that we possibly during
- 10:03Speaker 2: April will see that travel bubble open.
- 10:05Speaker 3: Minister.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Would there be any capacity that we could end up
- 10:08Speaker 1: with a direct flight to from New Zealand, Katie?
- 10:13Speaker 2: I think that it's certainly been discussed and airlines and
- 10:17Speaker 2: airport officials have looked at at but it does seem
- 10:19Speaker 2: a little difficult. But what we'd really like to see
- 10:21Speaker 2: is the co alignment of the schedule. So for example,
- 10:25Speaker 2: flights you know through Sydney and Brisbane, can they align
- 10:27Speaker 2: with the flight through to Darwin and Aura Springs. That
- 10:30Speaker 2: certainly I think would be achievable, and making sure that
- 10:33Speaker 2: people don't have to overnight, which then is a deterrent,
- 10:36Speaker 2: particularly as people are looking in this sort of COVID
- 10:39Speaker 2: space to travel directly to their destination, to limit that
- 10:43Speaker 2: time that they could simply just transit in an airport
- 10:45Speaker 2: and get through to the territory. That's certainly what I'd
- 10:47Speaker 2: be working with airlines.
- 10:48Speaker 3: Around all right, Minister.
- 10:49Speaker 1: One other topic I'm very keen to speak to you
- 10:51Speaker 1: about this morning over the weekend. We know that takeaway
- 10:54Speaker 1: alcohol alcohol came to an end at the Waterfront.
- 10:58Speaker 3: Why has that being stopped?
- 11:02Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie, something that was certainly, you know, a COVID measure.
- 11:06Speaker 2: When we saw restaurants that we couldn't even attend a restaurant,
- 11:09Speaker 2: those emergency provisions were brought in. The Director of Licensings
- 11:12Speaker 2: had numerous conversations with the venues at the Waterfront and
- 11:15Speaker 2: the Waterfront Corporation itself, and I'm confident we'll find a solution.
- 11:19Speaker 2: We're not sure at present whether that will be through
- 11:22Speaker 2: Director's approval, liquor commission process or legislative change, but I
- 11:26Speaker 2: think that we can all agree that it was something
- 11:28Speaker 2: that came out of COVID. You know, we put those
- 11:30Speaker 2: measures in place to keep the community safe, but in
- 11:33Speaker 2: turn has provided other opportunities. So well, I'm very confident
- 11:36Speaker 2: that we'll come up with a solution working through with
- 11:39Speaker 2: the Waterfront and those venues.
- 11:40Speaker 1: But I mean, was it causing any issues, Like, was
- 11:42Speaker 1: there any concern in terms of alcohol fueled violence or
- 11:46Speaker 1: anything like that for us to really be in a
- 11:48Speaker 1: situation where we then stop that delivery service or that
- 11:52Speaker 1: you know, being able to actually just have a drink
- 11:54Speaker 1: with your meal down there at the waterfront.
- 11:57Speaker 2: So, Katie, where the provision came from was that the
- 12:00Speaker 2: Director of Licensing was able to vary licensed conditions because
- 12:04Speaker 2: of the emergency situation that rare in. And yes, the
- 12:07Speaker 2: COVID pandemic emergency continues in a broader sense, but as
- 12:11Speaker 2: I said, when restaurants were shut down and they were
- 12:13Speaker 2: only doing takeaway food, it meant that they could provide
- 12:16Speaker 2: a small amount of alcohol to go with that food.
- 12:19Speaker 2: And so that sense of the emergency has passed that
- 12:22Speaker 2: we're able to now go to restaurants. But I think
- 12:24Speaker 2: we've enjoyed that, and we've COVID taught us something fun,
- 12:28Speaker 2: I guess, Katie, And so we'd like to see that
- 12:30Speaker 2: provision continue, but we do need to make changes, and
- 12:33Speaker 2: it's either within from the Director of Licensing, whether it
- 12:36Speaker 2: goes back to the liquor Commissioner, whether it is a
- 12:38Speaker 2: legislative change. So in terms of why it's stopped now
- 12:42Speaker 2: was because it was provided in legal advice that that
- 12:45Speaker 2: component of the emergency was not continuing had stopped, and
- 12:50Speaker 2: so it wasn't appropriate to allow that variation of licensed
- 12:53Speaker 2: condition anymore.
- 12:54Speaker 3: So in your opinion.
- 12:55Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that realistically we should be
- 12:58Speaker 1: able to go back to a situation where alcohol can
- 13:01Speaker 1: be served there or can be delivered there.
- 13:05Speaker 2: If licensees want to see a continuation of the very
- 13:08Speaker 2: licensed condition that they enjoy during the pandemic, then they
- 13:11Speaker 2: can submit an application to the Liquor Commission. The Director
- 13:14Speaker 2: of Licensing Kating, is working very closely not only with
- 13:17Speaker 2: those individual licenses down at the waterfront, but the Waterfront
- 13:20Speaker 2: Corporation itself, so that we can have consideration of a
- 13:24Speaker 2: permanent license change.
- 13:25Speaker 1: What about more broadly for those businesses that had been
- 13:28Speaker 1: delivering food obviously not just at the waterfront, but more
- 13:31Speaker 1: generally around the Northern territory, and it had also been
- 13:34Speaker 1: part of that provision that they could deliver cocktails as
- 13:38Speaker 1: well and deliver alcohol as well.
- 13:41Speaker 2: We need to be careful, Katie, because different licenses attract
- 13:44Speaker 2: different criteria and that they cost different amounts, and we
- 13:49Speaker 2: don't want to see license creep where someone has a
- 13:52Speaker 2: license that's intended for one product and they start to
- 13:54Speaker 2: creep into another area. But at the same time, I
- 13:57Speaker 2: think we did the innovation and we should allow licensing
- 14:00Speaker 2: through the proper processes to look at that and how
- 14:02Speaker 2: it can continue post the emergency aspect of licensing.
- 14:06Speaker 1: I mean, we're not talking about people delivering like a
- 14:08Speaker 1: carton of berh We we're talking about people being able
- 14:11Speaker 1: to order two cocktails, let's say, with their meal delivery
- 14:16Speaker 1: to their home.
- 14:17Speaker 2: And that you raise a really important point there. We
- 14:19Speaker 2: need to be really careful. I think there was one
- 14:22Speaker 2: situation where six packns and fish fingers was described. Now
- 14:24Speaker 2: that's not what it's about. We all know that's not
- 14:26Speaker 2: what it's about. So we need to make sure that
- 14:28Speaker 2: the license conditions are strong and that they make sure
- 14:31Speaker 2: we don't see license creep into other areas that they
- 14:34Speaker 2: weren't originally designed for.
- 14:35Speaker 1: And so what's going to be the option here is
- 14:37Speaker 1: this going to be Is it a situation where those
- 14:40Speaker 1: businesses now have to reapply to be able to change
- 14:43Speaker 1: their license to include this, or is it something that
- 14:46Speaker 1: the government is going to look at as to whether
- 14:48Speaker 1: there should be a provision in place to allow businesses
- 14:51Speaker 1: to actually be able to expand this to this area.
- 14:55Speaker 2: So, Katy, we're not exactly sure. So they're looking at
- 14:59Speaker 2: it in a very intense manner, working with the Waterfront
- 15:01Speaker 2: Corporation who broadly have that area as well as those licensees,
- 15:05Speaker 2: and whether it's something that the Director of Licensing can
- 15:08Speaker 2: make that adaption, or if it does need to go
- 15:10Speaker 2: back to the Leaguer Commission, or it may need a
- 15:12Speaker 2: legislative change. But I'm confident we'll find a solution. I
- 15:15Speaker 2: think that it was something innovative and fun and people
- 15:18Speaker 2: really enjoyed. We do need to make sure that we
- 15:20Speaker 2: protect the community from any harm, but I'm confident will
- 15:22Speaker 2: come up with a long term solution.
- 15:24Speaker 1: All right, Minister for Health and also Tourism. We appreciate
- 15:27Speaker 1: your time this morning. Thanks so much for speaking with us.
- 15:29Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 15:30Speaker 3: That was Natasha Philes there