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8-07-26 Hour 1 - Good Soldier Courtland Sutton/ANOTHER Kawhi Leonard wrinkle/Payton on Mike Shanahan · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Man. I just try to be a good soldier man.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, first off, when it's
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  Speaker 3: is how y'all doing good to see everybody, I try
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  Speaker 3: to be a good soldier man.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: You know it's a little different going into you know,
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  Speaker 3: another season of my career, and you know, I.
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  Speaker 2: Just try to be a good a good soldier.
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  Speaker 3: I had a lot of talks with the team, stream staff, trainers, coaches,
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  Speaker 3: whatnot about you know what this plan was going into
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  Speaker 3: this part of the season. Last year kind of got
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  Speaker 3: ran into the ground going into the end part of
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  Speaker 3: the season and with us, you know, ultimately wanting to
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  Speaker 3: get to where we want to get to play in February.
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  Speaker 2: It's a long season ahead of us.
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  Speaker 3: Just trying to make sure that the body stays as
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  Speaker 3: fresh as possible, as long as possible, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I know everyone gets all anxious and excited about you know,
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  Speaker 3: ball is back and we got opportunity to go see guys,
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  Speaker 3: you know, see us go run around and everything and
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  Speaker 3: the different narratives get thrown, get drawn, now this, this
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  Speaker 3: and now whatever. But like I said, I try to
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  Speaker 3: be a good soldier, try to be a whether it's it's.
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  Speaker 2: Something that I want to do or not.
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  Speaker 3: I just try to be a good soldier so that
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  Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the day, I'm doing
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  Speaker 3: what's best for the team and you know, putting myself
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  Speaker 3: in the best position to be able to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: have a fresh body going to the long part of
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  Speaker 3: the season.
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  Speaker 1: be back. I got you. I got you, brother, I
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  Speaker 1: got you.
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  Speaker 4: I know this has been a little bit out of
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  Speaker 4: your what do you say, a little bit out of
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  Speaker 4: your wheelhouse.
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  Speaker 1: Getting here at five fifty in the morning. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: You got a little want at home, you got a
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  Speaker 4: wife who's probably happy you're leaving early. But I know
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  Speaker 4: it's just not something you're used to. But I got
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  Speaker 4: you today. It's okay. Hey, this is the last of it.
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  Speaker 4: In those lazy line of beans will theoretically be back
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  Speaker 4: on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe Brett will extend his you know, European holiday, and Vic,
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  Speaker 4: who knows what he's doing, saw Hey, look man, I
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  Speaker 4: saw him on the golf ahead to the golf course yesterday. Like, hell,
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  Speaker 4: you could have been here, Bro, doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: We're good. They make tea times after ten am, die
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  Speaker 1: Comments of Courtland Sutton.
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  Speaker 4: You know, this guy is just a total pro and
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  Speaker 4: that's what he That's what he is, that's what he's
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  Speaker 4: going to be, that's what is expected of him. And
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  Speaker 4: I love Courtland Sutton. You know what's so funny about
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  Speaker 4: this time of year, Raj. Here it is seven oh
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  Speaker 4: three am, this is day whatever it is of training
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  Speaker 4: camp six.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever, and you get.
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  Speaker 4: People all over this this social media deal, right, listen, listen, hey,
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  Speaker 4: all right, twenty three scars Austra Media. All but I
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  Speaker 4: see this from from Broncos fans. Conspiracy theories coming up?
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  Speaker 4: Have you seen those? Like, Oh, Broncos only like this guy,
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  Speaker 4: so maybe they're thinking about trading that guy. And Courtland
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  Speaker 4: Sutton's name has came up, and Bob, I'm like, no, man,
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  Speaker 4: you stop looking just because this is the there's nothing
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  Speaker 4: to see here training camp. Stop looking for things that
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  Speaker 4: don't exist. Stop looking for Bigfoot out here when Bigfoot
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  Speaker 4: ain't showing up and walking through those doors. Okay, Cortland
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  Speaker 4: Sutton's going nowhere. This guy is an absolute stud. He
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  Speaker 4: is a safety blanket. He's an excellent, excellent wide out.
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  Speaker 4: You got him for it, I think a pretty damn
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  Speaker 4: good price. So can we just put all that kind
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  Speaker 4: of crap to bed. We This guy's at Denver Bronco.
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  Speaker 4: I hope he's a Denver Bronco for life. I see
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  Speaker 4: no reason why he can't be a Denver Bronco for
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  Speaker 4: his entire career. And let's move on and let's see
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  Speaker 4: this team play some good football this year.
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  Speaker 1: It is odd how they've been handling him. Right the
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  Speaker 1: back to back VET days and then yesterday he participates
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  Speaker 1: in about half of practice where you know, they didn't
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  Speaker 1: have shells on, they had those like little teeny tiny
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  Speaker 1: I think they call him spider pads on yesterday, and
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  Speaker 1: then he would leave the field. He and Nick Benito
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  Speaker 1: went out to uh the like strength and conditioning field
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  Speaker 1: on the north side and did some more. Yeah, one
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  Speaker 1: of the that's like a rehab field. Yeah, like you
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  Speaker 1: know in the family sports and they practice on the
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  Speaker 1: the sheet that has the Avalanche logo on it. But
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  Speaker 1: then the team goes off and then the trainer rather
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  Speaker 1: the head skills coach then goes on to the opposite side.
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  Speaker 1: Correct of family sports. I forget what the name of
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  Speaker 1: that rink is.
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  Speaker 4: Can we explain what what that field looks like over there?
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  Speaker 1: That's where when a whi who was it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Wes Rican last year's trying to come back and
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  Speaker 4: he's over there pushing the sled by himself and all
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  Speaker 4: that kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of Who was the big the big pass rusher they
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  Speaker 1: got from Dallas those years ago. Who's terrible? Oh, Randy Gregor.
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  Speaker 1: Randy Randy Gregory lived on that field that that should
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  Speaker 1: be the Randy Gregory Memorial.
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  Speaker 4: Field, right, I guess it probably should be. But they
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  Speaker 4: got the goalpost, it's tips sideways. They got some you know,
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  Speaker 4: some tackling dummies and some some blocking sleds and that
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  Speaker 4: kind of thing over there, but really it's just kind
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  Speaker 4: of nothing, you know what I mean? They either way, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I don't I don't mind it. I was listening to
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  Speaker 4: Chad Brown talk to d.
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  Speaker 1: Mac last night on Altitude Football twice a week. Great
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  Speaker 1: miss it, great stuff, Chad.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Chad's inside is obviously outstanding, but he was
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  Speaker 4: talking about his last year in Seattle and what they
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  Speaker 4: tried to do with his last year in Seattle to
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  Speaker 4: try to get him fresh for game days.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, and they would sit him out on
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  Speaker 1: a Friday. He's like, no, give me a once your Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're not ready to play the game
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  Speaker 1: here and all this kind of thing. But I think,
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  Speaker 1: as these guys, you're trying to manage all your assets
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  Speaker 1: the best you possibly can. You don't want anybody to
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  Speaker 1: get hurt. You want these guys to be fresh.
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  Speaker 4: It will still happen, it will, but I'm just saying
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  Speaker 4: outside of injuries, which you really can't control they happen.
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  Speaker 4: If you're talking about the body and the upkeep of
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  Speaker 4: the body and keeping the body fresh, I don't mind
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  Speaker 4: that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, in fact, this is the God's honest truth.
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  Speaker 4: If Courtland Sutton sat out all of training camp, didn't
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  Speaker 4: take one flip and rep with anything, and then the
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  Speaker 4: week before week one he comes in and starts practicing
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  Speaker 4: with the team and plays in.
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  Speaker 1: Week one, I would have no problems with that whatsoever.
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  Speaker 4: That's how much well as Sean Payton, that's how much.
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  Speaker 4: That's how much confidence I have in Courtland Sutton and
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  Speaker 4: his professionalism, his brain, his athleticism, his body, his productivity.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's how I feel about the guy.
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  Speaker 4: So you're not gonna convince me otherwise. Oh no, mo,
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  Speaker 4: he needs am onnth the rent. That guy doesn't need
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  Speaker 4: Jack Squad. It'd be like this if Nathan McKinnon showed
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  Speaker 4: up on let's see the first game September thirtieth. If
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  Speaker 4: Nathan McKinnon showed up on September twenty fourth and practice
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  Speaker 4: with the team for a couple three four days and
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  Speaker 4: then got ready for the game, would you be fine
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  Speaker 4: with that?
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  Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, because I know he's on the ice constantly, right, Well, okay, well, Cortland.
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  Speaker 4: Sutton's body is an absolute temple, So I'm not worried
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  Speaker 4: about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Courtland. I just think that the
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  Speaker 1: way that they have handled him is it's interesting. We've
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  Speaker 1: never seen something like that where they get back to
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  Speaker 1: back days. It was essentially three straight veteran rest days
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  Speaker 1: where he had a few reps with the team, and
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  Speaker 1: then he went back and he started working with the
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  Speaker 1: strength and conditioning staff. We've never seen something like that
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  Speaker 1: for a player that is not coming off of injury,
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  Speaker 1: that is not coming off of any significant surgery that
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  Speaker 1: we know of him. Pretty certain he didn't have any
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  Speaker 1: procedures done in the offseason. So it's very odd that
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  Speaker 1: they're utilizing that in a thirty year old wide receiver. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I know he's worth a whole bunch of money. His
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  Speaker 1: cap pit next year jumps up into the high twenties
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  Speaker 1: and continues to climb. But he's a top fifteen wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL at this point, in top twenty.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got now an injury to Jayalen Waddle, who,
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  Speaker 1: according to Sean Payton yesterday, will be out for the
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  Speaker 1: next four to five practices, so I don't expect we
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  Speaker 1: don't expect to see him until the middle part of
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  Speaker 1: next week. With the team, Marvin Mims goes down with
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  Speaker 1: a shoulder injury or some sort of issue after a
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  Speaker 1: collision or at least a contested ball with Riley Moss.
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  Speaker 1: Now he was fine, he was pissed off, he threw
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  Speaker 1: his helmet, but continued to stay out with the team.
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  Speaker 1: So now you have all of these like little, tiny,
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  Speaker 1: nothing to see here injuries. We're utilizing the kid glove
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  Speaker 1: approach with Courtland Sutton. But all of these injuries are happening.
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  Speaker 1: And the one, the one player that you are really
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  Speaker 1: nervous about in terms of injury is it's JK. Dobbins.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't missed a day. When when is his VET
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  Speaker 1: day coming? Is it today? Finally is going to help baby?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe either way.
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  Speaker 4: This is all precautionary, all precautionary, so don't anybody freak out.
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  Speaker 4: Everything is going to be fine. But again, the nothing
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  Speaker 4: to see here training camp does continue on out here
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  Speaker 4: at Douve Valley, and yesterday was a very light day, right,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look, they've gotten little spidy things. They got
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  Speaker 4: their shorts on. It might as well just be underwear
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  Speaker 4: running around out here. Nobody's really touching anybody or anything
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  Speaker 4: like that. And that's I'm fine with that, I really am.
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  Speaker 4: But we did get some real football last night.
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  Speaker 1: I did. I don't know if you watched any of that.
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  Speaker 1: I watched the first two quarters. I did not watch
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  Speaker 1: the third and the fourth. But I went back this
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  Speaker 1: morning and saw the who is at the kid from
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  Speaker 1: Georgia Tech.
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  Speaker 4: Haines Kines King, Haines Haines King, who lit up the
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  Speaker 4: Buffs last year? Remember that he looked good. Actually, all
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  Speaker 4: the quarterbacks had a pretty damn good night, Carson Back
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  Speaker 4: looked good, dude. The Cardinals, Well, I told you yesterday
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  Speaker 4: you were showing video of the Cardinals at camp, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, nobody can catch a damn football, and everybody's
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  Speaker 4: dropping things and it's just looking you know, it's just
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  Speaker 4: looking silly, right Marvin Harrison, you know, balls are off
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  Speaker 4: his hands all day and guys are falling down and
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  Speaker 4: so on and so forth. But I said the word,
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  Speaker 4: I told you, I'm reading all these these camp reports
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  Speaker 4: and all this kind of thing. Carson Beck actually looks
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  Speaker 4: damn good in an Arizona Cardinal uniform. Not that anybody
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  Speaker 4: gives a rats rip about that, because I certainly don't.
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  Speaker 4: But it's good to see real football, and it's good
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  Speaker 4: to see these guys come in and sling that pig
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  Speaker 4: around the yard. Now again it's it's preseason football against
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  Speaker 4: twos and threes and whatever else, but there you go, man,
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  Speaker 4: we had some real football ass so you.
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  Speaker 1: Had scores yesterday too. Typically, that Hall of Fame game
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  Speaker 1: is such a snooze fest in terms of well, actually, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: two quarters of great action and two quarters of suckage,
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  Speaker 1: right the first The under was as dialed in as
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  Speaker 1: possible after the first quarter, and then the two offenses
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  Speaker 1: I think combined for like twenty four points in the second. Yep, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was an entertaining game. But like, I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: dialed in for the first preseas game for Denver when
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  Speaker 1: they're on the road next Friday at Atlanta. Like, it
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  Speaker 1: got my juices flowing here in Mike Turco, and the
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  Speaker 1: Sunday Night football theme was like, oh, this is real,
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  Speaker 1: we're here. Maybe we see like a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: ramp up in a little bit more intensity in the
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  Speaker 1: latter parts of next week, maybe the Tuesday, Wednesdays, the
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  Speaker 1: Thursdays prior to their travel out to Atlanta. The one
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  Speaker 1: thing that I've noticed over the past couple of days,
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  Speaker 1: Moge is there's a level of frustration that you can
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  Speaker 1: kind of see from bow Nicks right now. And I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if it's just a handful of days of the
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  Speaker 1: defense kind of dominating, or if it's simply he walks
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  Speaker 1: up to the line of scrimmage, he looks to his left,
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  Speaker 1: and instead of seeing Jayalen Waddle in Courtland Sutton, he
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  Speaker 1: sees Troy Franklin and Pat Bryant. And then when he
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  Speaker 1: looks to his right, instead of seeing Marvin Mims in
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  Speaker 1: the position that he's supposed to be, he sees, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a Michael Bandy, or he sees a little Jordan Humphrey.
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  Speaker 1: And then he kind of looks back up and goes,
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  Speaker 1: where are my guys? Where am I dudes? How am
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  Speaker 1: I supposed to How am I supposed to compete? When
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  Speaker 1: Riley Moss and Patzertainner out there, when Jakwan McMillan is
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  Speaker 1: bawling out and looking as though like, do you have
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  Speaker 1: money to re sign and extend. Jaquan McMillan. I have
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  Speaker 1: seen some level of frustration with the offense.
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  Speaker 4: That's fine it because it's not it's not clicking along. Look,
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  Speaker 4: I think that every quarterback when they're out there practicing
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  Speaker 4: and they're in training camp, they want to clip along
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  Speaker 4: at a at a nice Chris pace and have everything
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  Speaker 4: go well. But that's not the way this game works.
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  Speaker 4: And so you're gonna have to deal with it. And
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  Speaker 4: I would tell look, look, there's gonna be no problems whatsoever.
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  Speaker 4: But the fact of the matter is bo Nicks this season,
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  Speaker 4: at some point is gonna have to make plays with
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  Speaker 4: his top guys out of the lineup for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 4: whether they're getting a blow or whether they're missing a
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  Speaker 4: game because of a quad or I mean, whatever it
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  Speaker 4: may be. You gotta suck it up when you gotta
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  Speaker 4: go play. I mean, that's it. You gotta suck it
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  Speaker 4: up and you gotta go get it done. And if
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  Speaker 4: he's frustrated a little bit, okay, that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: That doesn't bother me at this point whatsoever. When we
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  Speaker 1: are not out at Broncos' training camp, you can spend
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  Speaker 1: Bellevue and Broadway. It's great. Uh.
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  Speaker 4: There's so much to get to today on this program,
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  Speaker 4: and we're gonna talk a lot of football. Jamiir Gibbs,
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  Speaker 4: I was completely wrong. If it was me, I would
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  Speaker 4: have him slide just underneath, just over Taylor and just
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  Speaker 4: underneath Robinson. And Jamiir gibbson his agent like top ro
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  Speaker 4: Who's like, I don't I don't do the wrestling thing,
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  Speaker 4: not my gig.
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  Speaker 1: But I've seen on you. But you can't help it.
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  Speaker 4: You got you know, you can't swing a dead on
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  Speaker 4: Medillo by the tail on ESPN these days without seeing
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  Speaker 4: some wrestling crap going on, right, And so I'll be
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  Speaker 4: in the kitchen making someth and then here come the
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  Speaker 4: highlights of dude from the top rope, breaking tables and
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  Speaker 4: whatever else. His agent and Jamier Gibbs came from the
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  Speaker 4: top Rope man. He got paid. So here we are,
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  Speaker 4: in the span of a week, we have two backs
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  Speaker 4: three I know, but but two that have become the
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  Speaker 4: highest paid running back in NFL history. Then the next
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  Speaker 4: guy is the highest paid running back in NFL history,
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  Speaker 4: which is pretty amazing because the way the running back
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  Speaker 4: position has been going the last several years, it's not
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  Speaker 4: a dead position. But you know the days of the
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  Speaker 4: Bell cow backs seem to be gone. Well yeah, like
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  Speaker 4: Joel Gray, money, money, money for the running backs. Speaking
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  Speaker 4: of money, a new wrinkle and the Kawhi Leonard and
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  Speaker 4: La Clippers.
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  Speaker 4: the morning. You guys, get you got here LIKEO what
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  Speaker 4: five point fifty or something like that, You and Cole whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever. There's no one driving, so it's not a bad
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you thru you Okay, let's look get creamed
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: at six thirty, six thirty in the morning, six forty
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: five when you're trying to navigate that that interceder playing Froger.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: Dude, people are I can't I can't express to people
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: out there enough for those of you who are not
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: super early birds, or you're not on the road by
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: six thirty every day, Like I am right, you don't
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: realize how fast people.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Drive in the morning, early morning.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, dude, this is like people are screaming through
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: this intersection doing sixty five.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm like, I'm like, all takes is
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: a collision.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna be dead and now again, day one,
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: I almost got hit by that lady in a red Chevy.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Brother, you have nobody to blame but yourself. You're the
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: one who's wearing like asphalt colored camo Camo, and I've
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: seen you wear a gaudy bright blue, like electric blue
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: fishing shirt wear that you won't get crammed by an suv.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: People aren't paying attention, bro, They're on I mean they're
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: they're zipping around. Stay with me, people, three oh three,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: five oh four, oh nine to two five for all
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: you early birds again. I am gonna start a thing
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: on this program where I'm gonna chart every day what
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I am passed by when I'm doing like eighty two
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: and things passed me I was doing, I told the boys,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: and it's like a month ago. It's like, I'm doing
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: like eighty one miles per hour on four to seventy.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I got passed by a garbage truck and I'm like,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how a garbage truck gets up
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: to eighty plus.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: Miles per hour, let alone pass me. I was blown away.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: But nonetheless, uh.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: There you go. So uh that's a good corner Bellevue
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: and Broadway right on. Will Hey. A new wrinkle in
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the Kawhi Leonard situation. The ongoing NBA investigation into whether
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: or not the Clippers used about a thirty million dollars
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: third party endorsement deal with Aspiration for like tree planting
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: to pay Kawhi Leonard on the side for services that
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: were not rendered in terms of being a spokesperson or
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: social media endorsements or appearances, anything like Kawhi didn't do
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: anything for aspiration. They go bankrupt. One of their co
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: founders is now serving a fourteen year sentence, and Steve Balmer,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: the owner of the Clippers, has gone out and said
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I was duped. I was defrauded out of sixty million dollars.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: This was not a Kawhi Leonard situation. But the newest
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: wrinkle in this is that Kawhi had an undisclosed deal
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: with Daktronics. And if you don't know what Daktronics is,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: any scoreboard that you have ever seen, whether it is
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: the multi million dollar halo that is around the Intuit Dome,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the groundbreaking stat board and television screen in the Intuit Dome,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: or the little board that you see above the Broncos
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Park sign on the east side of the field, or
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the one that's in your local high school gym. Daktronics,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I guarantee makes those They're not a business to consumer
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: type of of outfit. This is business to business. They
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: sell things that is you know that that is correct.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: You don't sell it to Jim who's got a who's
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: got a monster bush, you know, when he wants to scoreboard, and.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: You sell it to high schools, to municipalities, to professional organizations.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: They are not a business that needs a spokesperson or
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: a social media presence. But they reportedly had an undisclosed
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: deal with Kawhi Leonard to pay him millions of dollars
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and once again, Kawhi it never did anything, dude. So
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: do you believe Pablo Tory in all of this? I
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: do do you find? Do you find his reporting to
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: be credible? Listen? Maybe he's a Harvard train journalist. I
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: like Pablo. I think what he's doing on Pablo Tory
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: finds out is a new forum of journalism in a
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: in an era where journalism is either frowned upon or
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: clowned upon. I like Pablo. I will just come out
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and say that I enjoy his reporting. I think he's legit.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I believe the work.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, if you believe the work I'm telling you right now, man,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: maybe Bomber can and we we mimic Steve Bomber on
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: the program all the time. They conned me, you know,
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: or whatever? What does he say NELI they conned me
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: or something like that, right, Conda, Yeah, there you go. Okay,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: So that's what he was making his case on ESPN
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: about not knowing what the hell is going on with
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: the aspiration and all this. Right, So the league lunch
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: is an investigation. I'm reading this story. Let me again
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: read it. This comes from ESPN. Tory interviewed someone identified
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: as quote an anonymous high level source under contract for
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: into a Dome who alleged that the sponsorship deal was
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: quote one thousand percon a way to circumvent the salary
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: cap It was funneling money from the Clippers through Dectronics
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: and back to Kawhi. I'm telling you right now, bro,
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: this this kind of thing right here, just on its
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: own on the surface, this is the kind of thing
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: that forces a sale of a team in the NBA.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: I know you have a brand new arena. I know
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: the bomber is one of the richest dudes on the planet.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: I get all of that. But this, if this is true,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: then this is incredible high level cheating. And again the
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: trade from the Clippers of Kawhi back to Toronto has
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: been held up because of this investigation by the NBA.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Raj.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: If this is true, these guys are using not one
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: but two companies allegedly to circumvent the salary cap to
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: pay this player. That is I mean, I the the
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: cheating involved in that is unbelievable.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Now, maybe it goes on in other places. Maybe it does.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know, because nothing else has been uncovered from
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: other teams. And maybe the league's afraid that other teams
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: are doing it, that the Clippers aren't the only ones
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: allegedly and all this kind of thing.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: But this is bad.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: If this is true, and I have no reason to
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: disbelieve Pablo torre and is reporting, then this is horrific
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: for the NBA.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: The reason horrible, the reason why this is taking so long,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and the reason why it isn't open and shut that
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: it's a forced sale of a team, it's because of
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: the level of wealth that Balmer brings to the NBA.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: He is in terms of an individual, it's not even
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: close the richest NBA owner right now. If this was Dude,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: if this was Matt Ishbia, if this was Tom Gores,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: if this was Dan DeVoe's with Orlando, it'd be a
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: different conversation. Like I think a sale would have been
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: forced on any one of those those owners who are
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: significantly less influential around the league and less important to
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: most importantly Adam Silver in this situation. The amount of money,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the amount of influence that Balmer brings to that league,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: and the brand new into a dome that is just
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: a basketball stadium. That's the reason why this is dragging out.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: That's the reason why the NBA won't come out and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: condemn anything. It stinks to the high heaven it does.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: I want to get Vic's thoughts on this so bad
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: and again that I don't think the league is dragging feet. Yeah,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: we're hearing nothing from the NBA in regards to this,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: and maybe we shouldn't until the investigation is over. But
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: you had one smoke, you know, Okay, where there's smoke,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: there's fire. Now you've got two giant billows of smoke.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: There's got to be fire there, man. And again I'll
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: say this. Tory also sided an anonymous former Clipper official
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: who said they knew that Leonard had a sponsorship deal
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: with Daktronics, the South Dakota based company that designed a
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: halo board inside the into a dome. Blah blah blah blah, blah.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: But when asked about it, I guess Daktronics says there's
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: no current contract with Kawhi Leonard. That's all they said.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: I'm dude, this is really really bad. I don't know
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: what else to say other than I need I'm going
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: to need me as a basketball fan, an NBA fan,
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: and obviously a big time Denver Nuggets fan, I'm going
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: to need some satisfaction in this investigation. I mean, I'm
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: going I am going to do you personally need to
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: be satisfied. Do you If nothing comes of this, bro,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be so done you can't even.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: But this isn't the same thing, right, So this is cheating, right,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: this is straight up cheating. But it's not the same
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: thing because the Clippers just find a way to suck well,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: regardless sign they don't win, regardless of how crappy they
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: are a as a as a basketball team. You can't
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: do it. This isn't This isn't the Houston astros man, right.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: The reason why the astro scandal was so bad, the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: reason why there were so many people that lost jobs. Again,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: like Carlos Beltran was going to be the manager of
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the New York Mets, and then the Mets backed out
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: of that deal because Beltran was entrenched in the trash
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: can banging scandal, right, the signs stealing scandal. The reason
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: why that was so big is because as Houston won,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Houston was, you know, not quite as dominant the Dodgers.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: But if the Clippers were a contender, would you be
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: even more pissed. I'm just pissed, period, because this is
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: flat out Somebody says it's not cheating, it's fraud, and
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: and maybe that's it too. Maybe it's it's it's total fraud.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: It's just.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I can't believe. Listen to me, how how naive am I?
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I've been in the sports biz now for what thirty
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: three years, thirty four whatever it is, right, I've been
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: around man, Hey, man, I've been around man. I should
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: never be shocked at a sports team's ability to try
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: and cheat to win. I shouldn't. I shouldn't be surprised
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: by it. But this is so high level. And this
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: appears again Daktronics. They don't advertise to like the local
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: they don't. They're not making PlayStations, they're not making they're
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: not making big screen TVs that are to there's no
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: direct to consumer with these guys. Why would they even
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: remotely have a deal with Kawhi. There's nothing he can
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: do to promote their company.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: There's nothing that he would do, so it basically the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: famous part of this is that Kawhi signs deals and
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't do anything right.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Let me, let me try to put it in Layman's
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: terms again, that the Clippers give money to Deaktronics, they
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: turn around to put it back, to put it back
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: to Kawhi.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Because they're doing this.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: You know, they's a two billion dollar arena and they're
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: doing this whole you know, state of the art, never
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: before seen halo around the gym and all that kind
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: of thing. It's money laundering is essentially what it is.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: It's it, I mean, allegedly, if Populatory is correct, this
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: is money laundering is what it is. So it's just
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: it blows my mind.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Bro. They will not force a sale of the team,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: even if it comes down that it is they have
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: concrete evidence that Balmer went around the league rules to
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: circumvent the cap and funnel money to Kawhi Leonard in
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: order to keep him in Los Angeles with the extension.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: They will not, foresay sale of the richest owner in
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the NBA with that much influence, it will not happen.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: What they will do, What they should do if that
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: ends up being the case is it has to be
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: years of first round draft picks that are taken away
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: from that team. It has to be millions and millions
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: and millions of dollars that are taken away from Balmer
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and the organization and spread throughout the rest of the league.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: It has to be some sort of I don't know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: you want to put the put the Clippers in the
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: second apron without having the ability to pay that amount
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: of money to get into the second apron. I think
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of penalties handed down by
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: the NBA. If this investigation actually turns something out, they
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: will They will not hold the will. It's not gonna happen.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I know you want it to happen. It won't happen.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: They will not force Steve Balmer to sell that team.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: He is too rich, he is too influential. He has
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Adam Silvers by the scruff of his neck.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: If this is true, Bro, this is a huge I mean,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: I thought it was a huge scandal. If we're double
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: dipping here, on the on the kickback. This is a huge,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: huge scandal. Like, I'm not sure I have anything more
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: to say about it. You know my feelings on it.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm I don't care whether they suck or not.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: The fact that they're even attempting this is it's it's abhorrent.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: And again maybe other teams are doing it and they
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: don't want to get caught, so they don't want to
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: put up a stake.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I think this. So, how's this?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: If you can agree with me that they will not
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: force Balmer to sell the team because of his level
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of influence, they should can you, for the sake of argument,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: can you agree with me that's not gonna happen. It's
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Okay, it would be, it would be
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: more naive, But you just think, Okay, this is Adam Silver.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: What would David Stern do? David Is David Stein still alive? No,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: he's dead. David Sturn's dead. I don't care what David
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Stern would do. David Stern's not coming out of the grave.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: This league to run Lie used to have some cool
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: yoans man, I mean you could you could pull them
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Michael Jordan's baseball for a.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Couple of years. It would be more naive of you
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: to think that the NBA would force Steve Balmer to
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: sell the team, being the richest owner in the sport
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: by a gigantic margin, than to think that there aren't
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: other owners who have done this in the past. So,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, let's say that they will
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: not force him to sell the team. Then what is
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: what is a fair punishment for Mark Mosure? No draft
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: picks forever.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: For.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Life, forever, No draft picks for life? How about that
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: and a one hundred billion dollar fine?
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: That all right?
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Now? Now you sat, Now, I'm satisfied, and you can
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: still go sit courtside. Steve allegedly, oh like, hea'y, look,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: I'm I guess I'm done with this crap.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: But I just I can't believe the audacity if this
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: is true. I'm stunned by the audacity of this. Vic
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: sent out a tweet this morning, you know, quote, tweeting
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the Pablo Torre story, and he's now on the front.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: He said, all this for Kawhi Leonard, and I kind
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: of agree, right, all of this for Post Toronto, Kawhi
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: for Post san Antonio Kawhi Leonard, the Kawhi Leonard who
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: can't stay on the court. Like I could understand all
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: of this for Lebron James, I could understand all of
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: this for Victor Webbin Yama or a at the height
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: of his powers, Nikola Jokic or Shay Gilgess Alexander. But
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: for this version of Kawhi Leonard, for the twenty twenty
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: three version of Kawhi Leonard, all of this, it doesn't
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: feel like there's enough juice in this. Vica for Vick
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: is being lazy.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: If Vic is listening right now, you say this, what
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: time this tweet come out?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't see it.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know, like like six in the morning, something
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: like that. So he's waking up at four every day
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: on accident. All right, let me let me put it
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: out the Vic. Vick, if you're listening, did you wake
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: up at four again on accident today?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: No?
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I will come about five, all right? You slept a
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: little bit today. God, that's the reason why you're so
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: bright out in bushy Town. I love that for you.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Let me let me put this out the Vic, my
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: co host, one of my co hosts here, Vic, I
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: know you're taking today off, but let me be Kevin.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: I give you the authorization if you call the program
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: at any time today to give me your thoughts on
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: this live and in person, I will grant you another
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: day off for free.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Twenty one minutes ago is when the tweet was sent out.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: So maybe Vic slept this morning too. Maybe.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: All right, I'll tell you what, Vic, gim me give
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: us five minutes of your time on your own program,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: you lazy line of bean, and I'm gonna grant you
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: an additional full day off, all right, So get on that.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Hey.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: A couple of things before we get to break. And
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I want to talk about Mike Shanahan being out here yesterday,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: which I thought was cool. What did I say about Shanny?
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Everybody who heard it yesterday should know my thoughts on
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Mike Shanahan. So I'll get some more of that. But
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: a couple of other things too. Did you read what's
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: going on in LA? Did you read what was said
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: by Sean McVay, And this should terrify the NFC.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: It was okay. Sean McVay said that it was the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: best tryout he's ever seen. When speaking about Ericon, Donald
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: showing up and I think that was a little humorous,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: like because he was out there trying out for he see,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: if Donald steps on the field, he makes the team.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: He said he looked out standing. They worked out the
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Loyola Meller Mount down there in LA on the off day,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: and that kind of thing.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Quote.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: He's very deliberate, intentional about what he looks like. Things
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: going in the right direction. He's feeling good. But we're
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: not there to where we're able to say whether or
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: not he's he's is or isn't ready. But he's doing great.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: He looked out standing, and I think all of us
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: would expect that. So here's the thing.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: You have a future Hall of Famer who's maybe the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: most dominant interior defensive lineman in the history of the game.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Yep, right, yep. He's thirty five, but he still looks
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: like a Greek adonnas. And he says, you know what
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: he got this MVP quarterback.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, you got Miles Garrett over here.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Let's see, you lost in the NFC Championship Game, but
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: you would have won the Super Bowl had you gone to.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: The see they would have beaten Seattle. Seattle is a
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: good unit.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Brother, No, no, no, I'm saying they would have beaten
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: the Sate, they would have beaten the Patriots. Sorry, yeah,
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: or the Broncos. I got my wires cross thinking, no
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: matter who the NFC team is, they were going to
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: beat the Broncos of the Patriots. Okay, that's that's my
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: opinion set, That's okay. But what I'm saying is that
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: if the future Hall of Famer is the best interior
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: defensive lineman in the history of the game, is thinking
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: about coming back as working his way into shape and
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: his coach goes he looked outstanding, dude, this is probably
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: gonna have This is gonna happen. I mean, this is
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: going to happen, and the La Rams are going to
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: wreck the NFC.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: We're not talking about how good that defense is going
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: to be enough, right, We all talk about the Broncos
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: defense and Seattle and Houston's as we should. Right, those
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: are dominant defensive units. Pittsburgh is going to I think
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be some five hundred team, but that defense
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: will keep them in a whole bunch of games with
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Poona Ford and Miles Garrett and Nate Landman and Cam
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: curl and Trent McDuffie.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean, so you're Aaron Donold sitting
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: there going, oh yeah, they got McDuffie and they got Garrett.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: That sounds you know, that sounds like that sounds pretty good.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: That sounds like maybe a ring. It's just the the Rams, dude.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Barring unforeseen you know, disaster. Uh, they are going to
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: kill it. They are going to be a fourteen win team.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Is that they are the they are the team to
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: beat in the NFC?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Is that not the marquee game of the year for
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the Broncos. Yeah? Week three at home Sunday night against LA. Like,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: find another find another game on the list on that
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: schedule that is more intriguing that I think that. I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: think it's more intriguing. Thank one against Kansas City on
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the road with the return of Patrick mahind. That's what's intriguing.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: The MA Homes thing is what's intrigued. Like, LA is
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: a way better team than Kansas City. I know, even
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the Kansas City chiefs okay, which I know three months
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: from now me saying that, I like, I'm gonna have
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: my foot in my mouth. But there is another game
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: on this list, maybe Thursday night at home against Seattle.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: But like Sam Darnold doesn't bring the same level of
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: excitement that a Matt Stafford and a Miles Garrett does.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: The middle seven games of this season where you get
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: like Carolina and Vegas and Pittsburgh at Miami, get get
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: out of here. I don't care about any of that.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Friday Christmas against Josh Allen, Oh, that's gonna be killer.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, these are these are big, huge mark Yeah,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: these are big, huge marquee games. But you won't find
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: a better team at this point I think than that squad. Again,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: the only thing that can ruin the Rams right now
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: is is, in my opinion, this is if Aaron Donald.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Aaron Donald is wrecking the interior. The only thing that
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: stops them is injury. I mean that that's the only
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: thing because or if.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: The cliff comes from Matt Stafford, if he if he
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: turns into old quarterback finally hits the end of his room. Okay,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: but he's coming off an MVP season. I'm not saying
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, but I I mean.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: He could, yeah, he could lose his fastball, but good god,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: almighty man, let's get to break.
• 34:49
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• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I'm sure at the end of this month a hot
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: day today Friday, Broncos training camp, one day prior to
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: a controlled gorg City bro Scort's gonna be one hundred degrees
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: out here, man, Scorch City. Man.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: You know what, before we get to Mike Shanahan and
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: I want to talk about Shanny being out here. I
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: love this because look at the field. What's its starting
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: to look like a little bit.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Like there's been football playing on there. Like so you
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: ever see brown patches? You ever see Wimbledon like on ESPN?
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Yes, and so let's say center court's all green and
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: it's lush, and it's pretty and perfectly manicured.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: But by the end of the tournament, what the hell
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: does it look like? It looks like the uh it
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: looks like my front yard. Right, it looks like the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Raiders Stadium prior to Allegiance when they had to share
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: it with the athletics.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's it gets all brown, the base lines ruined, right,
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: and you can see where all the tennis players are running.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I've also there's I have an issue with that. Wimbledon
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: is it's right, it's the masters of tennis, right, play
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: on grass, It's the masters of tennis. It is perfectly manicured.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: You have to wear white, you have to clap very
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: very quietly. You drink these beautiful freaking melon ball what
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I'd call i'd that's fine, you know what I mean. Whatever,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: It's all pomp and circumstance, and everything is neatly in
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: its own row. In what world does Wimbledon not have
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: roll out fields rather tennis courts like they have for
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. That center court should be rotated so
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: that when you're watching the final, it is a pristine
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: playing surface bro I think rather than the Colisee of
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Oakland Bro.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: That place is built like one hundred and fifty years ago. Yeah,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Know there's enough money out there. I'm sure they can
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: dig up a handful of millions of dollars under Buckingham.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: If they had to build a new Wimbledon, perhaps that
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: would be the case.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: But they ain't moving what they got going on right now.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I can promise you that. But either way, I'm going
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Masters would never America. Well, no, no, that's once a
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: year anyway. But I'm looking in Wimbledon's not They played
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Wimbledon seventeen times a year.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: They played match after match after match after mention on
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: those on those grass, there's.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: One hundred golfers that go through Augusta. You're never gonna
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: get your wish.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: But I'm looking at the field and you can just
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: see that the you know, it's getting brown here and
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: torn up there and all this kind of thing. And
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: these guys have a big job to come and try
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: to fill all the dibits, and they're doing a pretty
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: good job. But man, it's gonna be scort city out
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: here in the field. As camp goes on. It's starting
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: to get beat up pretty good. Let's get to well,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: let's get the Shanny if we can, and Mike Andy
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Bean here, Mike.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Shanahan was out at practice yesterday. It's a travesty that
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: he's not in Canton being enshrined into the Hall of Fame.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Here is Sean Payton on the former Broncos head coach.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: I think extremely. I mean, look, I could go into
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: the nuances of football. My first year in the league
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: ninety seven with Philadelphia, John Gruden had me, we had beta,
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: then had me cutting up four offensive teams, one being Denver.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: There was a game you guys were too young, but
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: they played Dallas, and Mike started getting into these you know,
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: the tight end outside Rod Smith to get man's own reads.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: It was an empty package and it was like Denver
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: really had a good offensive game that day. But it
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: was like must you know that that film wasn't available
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: on computer like you had. It was must watched, like
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: you had to get that game tape. So Mike, and
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: then the coaching tree and then too, you know, the
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: Super Bowls. Every element of it uh fits and just
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: just like the Broncos and l Way and the many
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: members of that team, there's there's a chapter, you know
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: a number of chapters that that are attributed to that
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: time frame, and and so I'm looking at it really
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: more in microscope relative to what he was doing before
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: anyone else was doing it.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: I love that out of Sean Payton, absolutely adore that cut.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: New he saved that cut because we're gonna play it
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: again sometime here before the end of the day. We
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: didn't ask Jeff lake Wall about it yesterday, and I'm
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: because we were talking about the current broncos, you know
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: what I mean. But we'll we'll get his thoughts on
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: that probably next week. But this, this is it dovetails
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: to what I've been saying, and that is not only
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: was was she any a winner big time at a
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: two time Super Bowl champion? But you look at his tree.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: You went over his tree the other day, right, It's
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: it's a pretty kick ass. Those roots go far man,
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: and that tree again goes back to the Bill Walt's tree. Okay,
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: the forty nine ers head coach that won their first
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl with Joe Montana and so on. Then George
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Seaffort took over and then blah blah blah blah, blah
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: down the line. That being said, Mike Shanahan took that
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: West Coast offense and he tweaked it and he did.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Some different things.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: And when Peyton says, look, you're putting the tight end
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: split outside of Rod Smith to get this coverage, and
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I mean he he thought the game at such a
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: high level.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: And he moved the game to another level, you know
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not just that, Oh, hey, I'm
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: a football coach and I won. Hey how about that?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Right he can take his in and beat Urine and
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Yearn and beat his and ill.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: It's not that, dude. He changed the game, man. And
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: when you hit coaching knows coaching. And when Sean Payton
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: comes out and says, god, lie here, I am nineteen
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: ninety seven the first year in the league, John Gruden says,
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: cut up this Broncos game and he's looking at it
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: going wow, this is this is this is pretty heady stuff.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: This is pretty unique. This is pretty incredible. I mean that,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: and then it just goes.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: On from there.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: That's that's all you need to know that Mike Shanahan
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: should be in the Hall of Fame. I'm gonna leave
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: it at that, right, this very second. That's the hill
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: I will die on here on August seventh, at seven
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: to fifty one.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Am is the reason that he's not in the Hall
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: of Fame.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: That because the voters are a bunch of dorts, That
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: he had dorts, that he had more single digit win
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: seasons than double digit win seasons in his twenty years
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter. I mean that Washington team he took over
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: was a suckhole either either way. I mean the final
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: and the Raiders. The Raiders eight years of his career
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: were you gotta say it. They were straight up bad.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: They were tough. They were tough, and that includes three
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: seasons in Denver. You know what, I bet if he
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: could do it all over eas well, Yeah, but if
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: they still weren't they weren't bad.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Look, I think things went sideways here obviously when when
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: the Plumber Cutler thing went down.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: By no means Amy saying that Mike Shanahan should not
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. I think it is
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: a travesty as well that he's not there. I'm just
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I'm playing devil's advocate here. That is that the reason
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: the end of his career was disappointing, Like I think
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: you could look at Sean Payton and the reason why
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: were we were having this conversation. There were a couple
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: of questions asked him at the podium of are you
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame coach? People have talked about you
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: like this. Davis Webb had it come out of his
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: mouth that yeah, you're coaching under a guy who's going
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to be in Canton one day. I don't know if
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: we would have had that conversation about Sean Payton had
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: he not come back to Denver and had the very
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: quick turnaround that he's.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: I completely that, I completely understand what you're saying. Let
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: me let me finish my thoughts on the Washington situation.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna put the Denver stuff aside here because I
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: think he probably again that's sit down with with Vic
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: and Mike Shanahan and Jake Plummer was outstanding. I want
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: to encourage everybody to find that. I think it's probably
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: on YouTube on the Altitude page somewhere, but it was
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: simply outstanding. I think if he could go back in
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: time and not do that, or fix it or do
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: it a different way, I.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Think he would.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: I am begging, I am begging Dot Brown to get
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: his friggin' DeLorean. Okay, get your DeLorean. Mike still wanted
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: to coach. Get your DeLorean and go back to Mike
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: Shanahan taking the job with Washington. And if he could
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: go back, I would absolutely say there's no way he
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: would want to work for Daniel Snyder, who's now out
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: of the National Football League. Right, There's no way he
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: would go back and take that gig, knowing what Daniel
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Snyder eventually was all about and that how that organization
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: was run. So you can say, yeah, that the wins
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: didn't come nearly as vociferously as they did before, But
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: I think there were a lot of things that were
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: hurting Mike Shanahan in that regard. And again we were
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: talking about RG three and Mike wanting Kirk Cousins, who
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: obviously has had a long and productive National Football League career,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: and that's no offense to RG three, whom I really liked,
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: but his knee torn up and so on and so forth.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: You know, Mike wasn't allowed to do it his way, right,
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: And so if he could go back in time and
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: not take that gig, but maybe hold out for a
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: different gig or a better ownership situation or whatever it
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: may be, with this conversation would be completely different. So
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: in my eyes, I don't wipe that out. But Raj
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: that what he did do, what he did do is
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: so significant that I'm willing to overlook that stuff. That's
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: me personally. And Plus, I like Mike. I know what
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: a brilliant football mind he is. I know what he
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: did inside the game. John Away was a Hall of Famer.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Would TD be a Hall of Famer without Mike and
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: Mike's offense and the way Mike called the game. I
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: would say, those three guys they all needed each other
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: to win those Super Bowls, that triumphant or whatever you
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: want to call it. But I mean that's unanswerable because
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Tell Davis was an amazing football player, but a Hall
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: of Fame career without Yeah, in a two thousand yards
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: season without Shanny and the way Shanny's offense was so prolific,
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I mean, you put him on
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: the falcons or you put him on you know whomever.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's the same story. I think it
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: was a perfect scenario for TV as well. And then
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: he took it and he did more with it than
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: anybody else could, and he's a Hall of Famer, Ain't
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: no doubt about it. But I think the three of
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: them together were simply brilliant.
• 45:20
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• 45:26
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• 45:32
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• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Marvin Mims has his shoulder after a collision yesterday with
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Riley Moss, but did continue to participate in practice. Nick
• 45:44
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• 45:46
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• 45:48
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