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Sage, Schizophrenia & The Naked Cowboy: Opie & Carl Storm Times Square · Opie & Carl

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Boopy radio bomb bump bump, bump, bump bomb bomb.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on? Everybody?
• 0:09
  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I find myself just outside Times Square walking up to
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: a building I know very very well.
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  Speaker 4: Uh we're talking about uh serious exam, Satelli Radio.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: I should go inside and see if they'll let me
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  Speaker 1: go upstairs.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: All is forgiven, All is forgiven.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: I could at least walk across the lobby, can I?
• 0:37
  Speaker 5: I think I could do that.
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  Speaker 3: I think I could do that.
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: Taking a chance, and I'm gonna run into some.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: Some old faces.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: Some would be very happy to see me, and others
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  Speaker 1: not so much.
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  Speaker 3: How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good.
• 0:56
  Speaker 5: The security guard's laughing at me.
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: The words out he was laughing though he was laughing.
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  Speaker 3: Gave me a nice high though.
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  Speaker 2: But that would change if I was trying to go through.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see going out the other door near Fox here.
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: Fox News paparazzi are hanging outside here. That usually means
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: he's a big star up at sirius exam there he is.
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: You recognize me like three minutes ago, and you want
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: me to walk around like a fool.
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  Speaker 3: That's victory. I'm about to crush you. On Instagram you're
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: cars the Cuban.
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  Speaker 5: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Man? I scored us the table. You see that?
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: I see that, dude.
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  Speaker 1: I walked right through the lobby and one of the
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: security guys he looks at me and just starts laughing.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just keep walking through the lobby until we.
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  Speaker 3: Run into some man.
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  Speaker 6: That's that's that's I'm Latin. What's wrong with twice? I
• 2:10
  Speaker 6: get maced and taste you'll they'll laugh at you.
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  Speaker 2: Why don't we go on the other side.
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: That's where all the people come out.
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  Speaker 5: Sure if you saw me walking.
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  Speaker 1: Around with this thing, and you wouldn't even fucking say hi,
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: I just fucking.
• 2:20
  Speaker 3: Stared at you with your nonsense.
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: All right, we're going back into the serious extent.
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  Speaker 3: Building. Used to work here.
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: I used to work here.
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  Speaker 3: I used to work here. Well, your full spectrum.
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: I used to work here.
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  Speaker 3: You shining like a Christmas.
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: Come on, man, let's go through.
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  Speaker 3: No, we're not gonna Let's go upstairs in the elevators.
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: Go upstairs in the elevator. Why hope, Yeah, forget nuts.
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now, I'm gonna have to take
• 2:49
  Speaker 3: you down.
• 2:50
  Speaker 5: You're gonna take me down.
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  Speaker 6: I'm literally gonna neck punch you, and then I really
• 2:54
  Speaker 6: don't want to neck paunch you.
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  Speaker 3: Now, what's going on? Money?
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Carluez? Good? Long week?
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: How was that Zona?
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  Speaker 3: It was incredible? Yeah? I had a lot of fun.
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah what were you doing out there?
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  Speaker 3: So you were at a cooking event. Uh it's called
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: lunch and learn where you teach people, uh how to uh,
• 3:12
  Speaker 3: how to make food. It's just like food fans and
• 3:14
  Speaker 3: it sold out. It was sold out, which was all sace.
• 3:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean. That's going good for me.
• 3:20
  Speaker 3: I was nervous, Like that's the firston. You get nervous.
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: And when they put you on a marquee like that.
• 3:25
  Speaker 2: Means you got a empty room.
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: No, you're worried once like once they're like we're at capacity.
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: Then I'm then I'm.
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, if you're on a marquee and then you walk
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  Speaker 1: in and there's no one there, it's like.
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: Your mom like kill it, son, kill it.
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: That would suck.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god. I've been there. Yeah, I've been there.
• 3:44
  Speaker 3: But it was good.
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  Speaker 7: And uh, I gotta tell you a lot of a
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  Speaker 7: lot of women listening to the podcast, A lot of
• 3:52
  Speaker 7: women there from the podcast, really this one lady goes,
• 3:56
  Speaker 7: so I hear you like older women.
• 3:58
  Speaker 6: I'm like, right off, right off the bat like I
• 4:01
  Speaker 6: was doing the meat and green Like, so I hear
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  Speaker 6: you like older women.
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  Speaker 3: I said, what's your name? You're just like chen. I
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  Speaker 3: go first, stand over there.
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  Speaker 5: I'll be with you.
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  Speaker 3: He knows, Sam getting through my fingers.
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  Speaker 2: And then what happened? Anything you could talk about?
• 4:18
  Speaker 3: I could talk about some stuff. I met this one girl.
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  Speaker 5: Hubba hubba, hubba hubba.
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  Speaker 6: It's been a while since I like, like had a
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  Speaker 6: hot girl.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Sometimes I do. I do
• 4:29
  Speaker 3: a lot of repping and a lot of fringe lately.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, which.
• 4:33
  Speaker 6: Is like it's like alcohol, Like you enjoyed what you're doing,
• 4:35
  Speaker 6: but the next morning you're depressed.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm like taking crying game showers, you know what. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: Oh god, I wish she had eyes. I can't believe it,
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  Speaker 3: but oh my god. You know but this was this
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  Speaker 3: was a ten, literally a ten demos.
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  Speaker 2: Oh shit, he works a serious exam.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like, what's up?
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  Speaker 8: Man?
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  Speaker 2: Say how hi man?
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  Speaker 3: This this is what I do.
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  Speaker 2: This is demos.
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  Speaker 8: Hey man, Carl pledged to me. I love this guy.
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  Speaker 8: You I worked together the way beginning, beginning, beginning.
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  Speaker 4: He does a bunch of shifts on all sorts of
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  Speaker 4: music channels for serious six am.
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  Speaker 5: It's fun. Yeah, what are you up to this? I know,
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  Speaker 5: I figure. I love that you're out here.
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  Speaker 3: You know what.
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  Speaker 5: I've been fire from here too, if you remember. It
• 5:21
  Speaker 5: brought me back. Yeah, remember I left for like eight
• 5:22
  Speaker 5: nine years something like that.
• 5:23
  Speaker 2: I wrote a thank you email to Scott Greenstein.
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  Speaker 5: That's cool.
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, we'll see what happens.
• 5:30
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say, maybe.
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  Speaker 3: It took a year, but they did the right thing
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: in the n let's just put it that way.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, what's the.
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: Word up there about me?
• 5:37
  Speaker 5: Nothing? I haven't heard much.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I'll mean to be like a dick, but
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  Speaker 8: I'm just telling the truth that I haven't heard much good.
• 5:41
  Speaker 5: I don't see much. I don't see much. You know.
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  Speaker 8: There's no more poster and things like that got rid
• 5:47
  Speaker 8: of the post. Actually the Gluden Norton's face over your joking, but.
• 5:53
  Speaker 3: Well it took everything else. You might as well take
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  Speaker 3: my poster right tomorrow.
• 5:56
  Speaker 5: But they know, you know it is. It's always a
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  Speaker 5: lot of creativity, a lot of good people up there.
• 6:00
  Speaker 5: But you know, I definitely miss seeing you around. And uh,
• 6:03
  Speaker 5: we've always had a good time together all these years,
• 6:04
  Speaker 5: all these stations.
• 6:06
  Speaker 8: But you know, when I was eighteen years old, they
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  Speaker 8: would put me on and they would make fun of
• 6:09
  Speaker 8: me and you and know You and A would you Wanda.
• 6:11
  Speaker 5: Always make fun and I was like, oh those guys
• 6:13
  Speaker 5: and I had no idea. It was just fun radio.
• 6:16
  Speaker 8: And you guys always went when I was having problems
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  Speaker 8: with kay Rock, Yeah, came through for me when it
• 6:19
  Speaker 8: really mattered.
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  Speaker 3: I tried.
• 6:20
  Speaker 5: I totally know you did, because.
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  Speaker 8: They offered me the job at any w and care
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  Speaker 8: Rocks and no, no, you're not going away. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 8: so you know you saved my ass on that, so
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  Speaker 8: I always appreciate it. You hear this, Carl, I'm it's
• 6:30
  Speaker 8: all fake.
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  Speaker 5: It's all fake. He's like, I'm on Instagram. You can
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  Speaker 5: have music to Instagram. Now, I'm not awesome. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 5: every we look for it's not there. Good luck with
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  Speaker 5: the most good scene, all right. I hope to see
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  Speaker 5: you upstairs. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Nice to meet someone with a job.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I could talk to it for another time,
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: but if you're sitting with me, that's not a good thing.
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  Speaker 5: You know it's not a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: That's a cool dude.
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  Speaker 2: He's all right, we got you.
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  Speaker 3: Be like that. I'm cool, bro, I'm cool spy. I
• 6:57
  Speaker 3: love you, man, But we gotta talk about what you
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: got us. Stop walking around with fucking plastic bags. It
• 7:02
  Speaker 3: looks crazy.
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  Speaker 2: This is my my jubilee.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, this is my supermarket bag.
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  Speaker 3: I know, but it's just not a good look.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I had all this stuff I got to carry.
• 7:10
  Speaker 3: You get a fanny packer, suck.
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  Speaker 2: I got my I got my lis, I got my
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: hat glasses.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: People think I wear a hat because I got hair
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  Speaker 1: plugs or I'm losing my hair, but that's not true.
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: I just like wearing the hat.
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  Speaker 9: I got my cool ray band. This is what's gonna
• 7:24
  Speaker 9: bother you though. No, is that tied up siege. Get
• 7:30
  Speaker 9: that away from you. O. I'm about to fill that bunch.
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: Why what are you? Are you gonna burn sage today?
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  Speaker 3: Does shaman tell you to come here for your spirits?
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: Does shaman told me talk to.
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  Speaker 3: Me slow like I'm about to murder you.
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: You love my shop?
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  Speaker 3: Thing that you say now fucking counts for everything. This
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: is for all the marbles. It's talk slow, motherfucker because
• 7:51
  Speaker 3: it's about to rain. You.
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  Speaker 2: Look, it looks like a joint.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like a cheech and charming trackop. You have
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  Speaker 3: tied up siege, Yeah from the shama. Yeah, in a
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  Speaker 3: plastic bag. Find of series. What are you up to?
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: Well, we might be going into an abandoned building in Brooklyn, right.
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  Speaker 1: The shaman said, you know you gotta like this to
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  Speaker 1: respect the energy in there, the spirits.
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  Speaker 10: So I got one for me, don't even show me,
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  Speaker 10: and one for you.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna say you on fire to respect silence. Back
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  Speaker 6: in the bag around with shaman.
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  Speaker 5: Toys me and you.
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  Speaker 6: Bro, looks I'm not touching it, So that's bolly cursed
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  Speaker 6: or something.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you touching my my sage? I come from Cuba.
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  Speaker 1: Smell right, magic people turn into leopards over there and
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  Speaker 1: smell it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't say smells.
• 8:42
  Speaker 6: It smells nice, right, decorated chef, Now put that back
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  Speaker 6: in your homeless back what a US Asian cooking?
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't know, of course we did.
• 8:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know what do you?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: You put it on like uh meat chicken fowl? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And then.
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  Speaker 1: I got this too for us here The Love Podcasting
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  Speaker 1: they don't.
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  Speaker 3: They always know.
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: They're like, there you go.
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: Put just put this in your pocket for the rest
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: of the day. I'm not putting your fucking glitter rocks
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: in my pocket. Put what faith ass fucking gold rocks
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: are those?
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  Speaker 2: You're not fake? Feel how happy they you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not touching it. What is it?
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  Speaker 6: You've gotta respect, Respect who you're You're eighty dollars an hour, Shoman.
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: This is a scam of biblical proportion.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: Which one you want? I got three.
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: Gets jettisoned out into space.
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: One for you, and then you know, if like Sharad
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: or someone else comes to me, I got will take
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: all three of them.
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: Small world comedy, give them to him, leave me alone.
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: You know he's gonna take my stage.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: Of course, he'll take anything you'll give him, because I'll
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: hollow it out and put some marijuana in it.
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: Well, that's really nice to the dead. That's a nice respect.
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: Just get high with the dead people.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: Nobody got this this. You still got to save the back.
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: I'll hold your fucking Texas instrument speaking spell.
• 9:58
  Speaker 11: You're too you're too close to mic Joey Joey uh
• 10:04
  Speaker 11: huh please yeah.
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: Send Opie to a mental.
• 10:07
  Speaker 6: Hospital, trying to talk based on com He's walking around
• 10:10
  Speaker 6: with spittle in his mouth.
• 10:14
  Speaker 12: Too close to MICUs comes with age, Carl.
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: Proper distance, proper distance.
• 10:19
  Speaker 12: Now, please stay focused. He's trying to board up his show.
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  Speaker 3: When you do it like this, I can understand why
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: some people hate you.
• 10:29
  Speaker 5: Why do you think I do it?
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: You don't think you enjoyed. You know you enjoy making people.
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: It's just you don't think comfortably angry.
• 10:37
  Speaker 5: You don't think I'm aware. Why do you think I did?
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  Speaker 2: That guy has schizophrenia. You want to talk to him?
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: No, I don't want to talk to you want to
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: talk to schizophrenia.
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: Gotcha.
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: The haters are already going with your your spectrum ship.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: Now now I guess I have autism.
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: That's the lay tot.
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: I have autism.
• 11:02
  Speaker 5: It's a cool disease.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what the hell, let's walk to the lobby again. Now,
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: why you did the lobby?
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: The lobby was uncomfortable. Yeah, I didn't like it. And
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: the security's already looking at me, not you. I'm walking
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: around with a cat shut doutcro snoopers to come get
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: and teased.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: I don't understand this shirt.
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: It's cats, it's kittens.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: And they're hanging out on.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: Corn corn on the cop two delicious things and what's
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: this popcorn?
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because then it turns into pop space.
• 11:26
  Speaker 5: Oh, duh, duh, okay, I got it.
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  Speaker 10: Oh.
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: I went to uh send me the bul Girvano's restaurant,
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: the one that he got locked up in. Really yeah,
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: was it out there selling sous? We had the giant
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: ecstasy ring run by the fbhid.
• 11:39
  Speaker 5: That's right of his extasy.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: What do you mean run by the FBI.
• 11:42
  Speaker 6: The way that it works is, you know he's under
• 11:44
  Speaker 6: Once you're under federal protection as an informant, the local
• 11:48
  Speaker 6: cops can't touch you because once they they start to
• 11:50
  Speaker 6: investigate you, you hit a firewall where it's like, no,
• 11:53
  Speaker 6: he's under federal protection. So Sammy, being very smart, he
• 11:58
  Speaker 6: took that that time that he was through that umbrella
• 12:00
  Speaker 6: and started a straight up king empire in Arizona.
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: And he was running it out of this restaurant called sALS.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: So I went go to the front desk and go,
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: seem me here. The guy goes fucking I had to say,
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: was it rat?
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that was in the first time that I'm
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: sure every third person, So then why did they finally
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: feel like they had to shut him down there.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: I think it got so big.
• 12:30
  Speaker 6: That the DA just went over somebody's head and they
• 12:32
  Speaker 6: district they just pinned him and said, look, we got it.
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  Speaker 3: This guy was literally killing people I could get Wow.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: So he's he's locked up for life.
• 12:40
  Speaker 6: Right, he's so stupid, you know what I mean, Like
• 12:41
  Speaker 6: for the what for to to get to get who?
• 12:44
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean, Like they flipped Sammy for
• 12:47
  Speaker 6: what to get to get what's his name?
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  Speaker 3: The man got Gotti, John Gotti. Ye Sammy or sam
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  Speaker 3: who's one hundred times worse than Godi. So they, you know,
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: they let this fucking maniac free, right, and they got Gotty,
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: who died in jail a couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, Well he was the I mean, not the figure head,
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  Speaker 2: he was the main boss.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: So that looked good for everybody that he got John
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: Gotti off the street.
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: I personally got he was a family man.
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  Speaker 2: I personally liked John Gotti. I liked what he did
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  Speaker 2: for the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 3: Really nice, dude.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: I'm We've talked about it. I'm a huge fan of
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: mafia people in general in general.
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  Speaker 5: Everything nice and tight.
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I mean, you know, and then one
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  Speaker 2: wrong move and then you know.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: If they don't kill anybody except themselves.
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: Right, But it was my experience over the years a
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: caddied for a bunch of those guys. They were way
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: nicer than the straight laced guys.
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  Speaker 3: Great guys.
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: I kind of don't like being here either, because we
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: had good times here. We would do our radio show
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: upstairs and then we would sit right over there. Remember,
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: we would do another hour for ourselves on the outside
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: the building.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: That was fun, right, It was a ball So you
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: they remember me, Chris.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: Over there, Chris ud Stefan. Yeah, yeah, well Chris, but.
• 13:56
  Speaker 6: He has zero ability to order any restaurant that doesn't
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  Speaker 6: have on the menu like it had. Like literally, I
• 14:03
  Speaker 6: looked at him and he's sweating trying to figure out
• 14:06
  Speaker 6: the menu and doesn't want to ask me what things
• 14:08
  Speaker 6: are because he knows I'm gonna say something crazy.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: So he's just struggling. It was like life, life altering
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: fro him. I'm like, and I'm just point, I go,
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: that's shrimp cocktails.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll get back because it.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: Was written in French.
• 14:21
  Speaker 6: And he's just he's sitting there and he's drinking like
• 14:24
  Speaker 6: a rum punch, like he ordered the first drink on
• 14:26
  Speaker 6: the drink, but he didn't want to deal with the
• 14:28
  Speaker 6: anxiety of actually making a choice.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: You were describing Chris perfectly.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: And we're talking about Oceana, which is right over there.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: It's a great restaurant. That's where we did the whole
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: jazz it up thing.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we did.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: And it's funny when I go out to dinner with
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: you and the waitress looks at me and goes, what
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: will you have? I go, he's ordering for us, which
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: is kind of embarrassing. I'm not gonna lie to you
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: because because it's a little uh uh, I told.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: You had asked for there go inside somewhere today.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but in the end, you always order the right
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: stuff for the restaurant.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Man. You should have seen me cooking on Arizona.
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: That was funny.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna play. Give Carl a choice. We
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: hang outside Serious next choice, or we talked to the
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: schizophrenia guy for a minute.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: We hang out in Serious six. Really, why don't you
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: want to talk a fucking stabby as fun He's.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: Cool, he's been here forever.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: His his stand is right around the corner.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: I hear your voice. This is happening. There's nothing I
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: can do.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Look, he's given he's given directions to it. An invisible person.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Right, rainbow ship like this. I'm gonna have to take
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: it down.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: These people like me man, because no one else talks.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: That's pushing it. But his stand is around the corner.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I've never seen him sell a picture, not one.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: You know what have in that stand. He doesn't have
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: sage bundles and space rocks. He's actually sataner than you are.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Bro Man, put it there, you go.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: You really do have these things? Did he give you
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: these things? No?
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: Why are you.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Waving at who's he talking to?
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: He's crazy, he's talking to the crazy spirits.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, he feels he feels our energy.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: No, he's feeling you waving at him energy? What energy
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: are you talking about?
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: He's getting directions though it looks like.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: A yoga housewife feeling my he's feeling our energy. Yeah, bro,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: there's that energy.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: Yo.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Broods, there he goes.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: He's he's walking away paranoid.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, ay, all right, well we're
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: supposed to go to Westwood One.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: You want to go there. Huh, you want to go
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: to Westwood One?
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Go to west Okay, I'll tell you about my Arizona
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: adventures on the way. We'll talk.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Are you gonna give me a story?
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: I just got good. I just did something really nice.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: What was that?
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: So there's this there's this chef that I.
• 16:55
  Speaker 11: Know who is a smoke show and she needs to
• 17:00
  Speaker 11: trying to get into a restaurant.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: And she reached out to me. I said, if I
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: can get it done, I got it done in fifteen minutes.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: She goes, thank you very much. I said, no, thank you?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Drinks drinks xtil?
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: I wrote back, drink and what she said, okay.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Nice, always be clothing. When we walked to Westwood One,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: they built a studio over there for us. I want
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: to go check it out.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Let's do the studio thing today.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: All right, let's go.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Look, you go right like a bagnet? What what's up?
• 17:30
  Speaker 13: Bro?
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Can you tell me where Times Square is?
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Where?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I think you know that it's over there?
• 17:38
  Speaker 12: Yeah?
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: All right, thank you sir.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: Have a good day.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Did you see that smile? You look? I know I'm
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: not looking at it's gonna bite me like that.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Oh now we just locked eyes just locked eyes.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now you got them all fucking stir it up.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: I got him fired up.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I was gonna eat a cab drive from.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Locked eyes like two rams on the side of them.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Now it was totally let go, like a ram and
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: a yetty.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: This is this is his stand a.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: God, you make me so uncomfortable. You really do why.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've been in a situations.
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: Like I've seen dead bodies, I've been in major fights,
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: I've been in financial problems, I've been nothing makes you
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: uncomfortable and comfort walking around.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: With you and that stupid microphone.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Have you ever been to a salad bar that's open.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I went right between the rims. That dagger.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Pat me to my punchline. I mean, you were talking
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: about scary places I got.
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: I went salad bar, but you fucking know, chopped my
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: head off before I could get sorry.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: It was funny.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: Oh my god.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: My favorite restaurants in New York is up the street.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Which one. It's the Kellogg's Cold Flakes Restaurant. What do
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: you mean it's just a restaurant.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: It's run by Kellogg's.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: My favorite restaurant city. I mean, and you can get
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: you can get all like fruit loops, on and everything.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: So I go there, I have breakfast, like a breakfast
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: cereal where sometimes I'll have like a like a frosted
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: flake shape that they make there. Yeah, and then I'll
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: go across the street to the Eminem store and crush it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: The Eminem store has.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Almost zero security. I'm literally just eating peanut. Eminem's just
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: staring at it.
• 19:19
  Speaker 10: Of course.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Oh it's great. You fill up your baggy a little
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: bit and little baggy. Oh you don't even go baggy
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: straight hand. Every everyone's getting Avian, just digging. They got
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: those giant tubes filled with every color of Eminem. You
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: can imagine.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: One time, the kid next to me looks at me,
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: little kid, and he sees me opening a little stiggott Yeah,
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: and I look at him.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I give him a wink of approval, like, got ahead, son,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: he just opened the yellow one for M, and M's
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: all over the nice in the middle of the street.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: It's New York, baby, you're getting hit by yourself.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: A New York baby.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Let's go this way.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I know where a few more freaks are.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know you do. This is what you're like,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: the free whisper. I'm not gonna lie to you.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: The schizophrenia.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Guy kind of scared me.
• 20:04
  Speaker 12: What was it?
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: His metal jagged teeth and his fallen angel wings with
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: daggers in.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Him might have been the distant look he game me.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: He was looking right through me. He was on another dimension.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: That guy. He was on a marshmallow waterfall when you
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: were talking to him.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: Bro, I got the moon rocks in my pocket.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Though. We're good what they are?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: We're good man?
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: What is that shaman doing here?
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: We're good man?
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: It's not healthy. Ope, you gotta stay away from that guy.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: Oh New York City.
• 20:35
  Speaker 13: It comes no apparent the fucking reason he just turets
• 20:40
  Speaker 13: out Tourett's out wowsers.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: All you need, all you need is one skittish tourist.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Why do you give you a karate chopping?
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Why would you wish that on me?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not wishing it on you. I'm telling
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: you what's gonna happen. It's not a wish hip. The
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: olive garden pumping?
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: Why why?
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Because no, no, no, no no.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: This is something I've talked about many, many times.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Living in New York.
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: You got all these tourists, right, They spent good money
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: to come to New York on a vacation for a week, right,
• 21:17
  Speaker 10: and then when it's time to eat, they go into
• 21:19
  Speaker 10: Olive Garden or tgif why.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Would you do that? And I'm gonna tell you why.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I'm ready to tell you.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: Right, Remember when we were talking of the other podcast
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: when we were at the pump and I said how.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Restaurants had normal names, so you knew what was going on.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: This is exactly why a tourist is already his sensory overlord.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Like, I mean, look at this wave of just lost
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: humanity here, right, So this is just an ocean of
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: people that have come here and haven't.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Done no research, so they're intense, were right.
• 21:47
  Speaker 11: So they're already overwhelmed with like the shitty comedian trying
• 21:51
  Speaker 11: to give you a ticket to the comedy show, with
• 21:53
  Speaker 11: all these walking spaces with homeless people trying to grab
• 21:56
  Speaker 11: at your ankle like they're a little dog, you know
• 21:57
  Speaker 11: what I mean. So you they look at the restaurants
• 22:00
  Speaker 11: that are here, that are that are homegrown, and they
• 22:03
  Speaker 11: have names.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Like Sally's Pumpkin Patch. They don't know they're they're they're terrified.
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: So Olive Garden, red Lockster, they have the menus in
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: the window with the prices and you know what it is,
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: and it's comfortable. These people can't.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: If you're in Times Square, you obviously are light on creativity.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: But they're missing out, man.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: New York has so many great places they're missing.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: You think they're missing out here, go back and wherever
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: they live now that's missing out. But they got the
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: Olive Garden.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: This is their stair way to heaven. This is as
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: good as it gets, you know.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I mean we're now in the hard Times Square And honestly,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: ninety ninety percent of these people are tours. So all
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the tours are hanging out with other tours.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and they'll never almost like they're not in
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: New York. They've canceled out New York.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: They'll never go out in the village and check.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: That shit out. They don't know where the village is.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: That's unbelievable to me.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Man, they don't want to go. Oh no, Peaches fell.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: You're looking for the tourists.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: You literally got tripped up. What do you see here?
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: There's something that you don't know about here. This is
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: where some evil ship goes down.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: Because in this.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: Crush of people, you can move money to one person
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: another drugs every link. So in the middle of this
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: wave of stupidity, there's some really bad dudes doing some
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: really bad No you're not.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: No, you're not. No, You're not. No, You're not.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna hide.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: Why you out?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Naked Cowboy? We've talked before, Hopie, how are you?
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: Brother?
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: He was scared because he thought I was gonna be
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: a dick.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: It's still in good shafe, Carl, what's up, brother?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I just want to say, Hi, how are you doing?
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Still?
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I guess you got into stole the show somewhere.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I talked about you. I was walking through it, I
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: was podcasting. I got gotta give it to the naked cowboy.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: He's still his body's still rocket. This is my twenty
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: year anniversary coming up.
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: Really working on a seventy nine thousand dollars statue bronze
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: just like life size harp, trying to get permanent placement
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: or at least six months and right all my sponsors.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Ford, is it a possibility that's gonna happen. I'm making
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: it happen, right, I hope? So right on either way, Yeah,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I'll do it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: At twenty five.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Years, Life's good, you seem happy, Still.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Rock and rolling right. All right, what's the name of
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: your show, Hopeie Radio, Hopeie Radio.
• 24:28
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm the naked cowboy here on Opie Radio.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: I know the outfits questionable, but I ain't a home o.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: I love it. Fist. Thanks brother, you can seeing you.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I'll talk to you so up.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Thanks.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: He's he was just wiping dandriff off my shirt. I think,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: look at this, look at the look at the painted boobs.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: That is sloppy, sloppy.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Hey man, we're good brother. I got to love.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I got to love.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Because nice tits?
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Is that?
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Was that too much? Is that too much?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Young girl?
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Is not mad?
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: The other one was, I guess.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I guess we got to explain because you can't see this.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: We now we walk by the girls that they're topless,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and they're allowed to be topless because their boots.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Are painted up.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: And one was really a mess, like just imagine filling
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: up two water ballowns too much and they're just hanging.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Oh that's the one.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: I liked that.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I even waked that and everything.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: You know what, I know you're not lying.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: At all.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I know you're not lying.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Why we're gonna lie about my emotions?
• 25:45
  Speaker 15: And they make a four like the Skinny one. Yeah,
• 25:49
  Speaker 15: she was definitely just like to make a cowboy. And
• 25:52
  Speaker 15: then and then you you know the the rappers scam, right.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, they give you the c D and then they
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: tell you to sign it, and then they just corner you.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Well then they're like they ask your name and then
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: they signed this the CD. Most of the time there's
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: no rap music on it at all. Oh no, and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: then that would be twenty bucks and they're like, I
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: didn't say I would buy this. And then they're like, look,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I can't sell it now because your name's on it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest scams in Times Square.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: One of the highest grossing to the highest grossing restaurants
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: right in this corner car Mines.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know, Carmines and Bubba Dumps.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: How much does car Mines.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Make a year?
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: It's gotta be I think it's somewhere north of seventy million,
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: seventy million a year.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I don't quote me, I'll google it later.
• 26:38
  Speaker 12: No, let's not quote you. Let's fact check right now.
• 26:40
  Speaker 12: With all due respect to car Mines, and of course
• 26:43
  Speaker 12: you chef. While it's certainly among the top grossing restaurants
• 26:47
  Speaker 12: coming in at number four and twenty seventeen, at around
• 26:49
  Speaker 12: thirty three mili.
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: For the year.
• 26:51
  Speaker 12: Far cry from seventy, but thanks for playing.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: But the funny thing is I was opening a restaurant
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: next to them, you know what I mean? I know
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: the restaurant, and one of the owners of car Mines
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: comes outside.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: He goes, hey, how you doing.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: And the guy that's with me doesn't know who this
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: guy is. This guy's a New York restaurant legend right.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: The guy goes, oh, we're.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Opening this and doing this. The guy goes, oh, that's cute.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Good luck to you guys, Good luck to it. You'll
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: be gone in a month. He didn't feel he didn't
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: feel threatened at all. You could open a car Mines
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: inside of car Mines and he wouldn't care. Really, bro
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: that plays prints money. We're on forty second Street walking
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: up to Westwood water a chef. How about one of
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: those time jumps? Bring speed.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Right here, brother, we had made it.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: We got you.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Gotta do a little SIGGI break cigapoo, a little cigarerooe.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: IM starting to get chess paints. I might be dying,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: hope against chest paints. Don't worry about it. Christ I'm
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: big ones.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, as long as they're not big ones.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: No, nothing that like shutters my eyes or anything. I
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: am hot.
• 28:16
  Speaker 14: They're gonna have water in here. Yeah, I watch them too.
• 28:18
  Speaker 14: I'm tim saving in there. Yeah, cancel you want, we
• 28:22
  Speaker 14: can just go. Let's just move on, just move on
• 28:26
  Speaker 14: to something else.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Huh.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to cutting down. I don't have my idea.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: All right, walking into the lobby of Westwood One.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: That was a nice walk.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Carl, Huh.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: We got to talk to the people, right.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: You literally know the naked cowboy like he's hey, he's
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: cleaning the stuff.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Up your shirts.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: He came on our show.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Hey man, I got my ID, so you could just
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: go up right, I don't Yeah, all right, I'll get
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the elevator.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Carl gowing up.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Joey, we're hitting the elevators.
• 29:09
  Speaker 12: Okay, thanks for not podcasting in the elevator.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Greg appreciate that.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: So Joey take it away will continue from well, we
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: don't people are telling me don't tease.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Shit, I forgot. That's the old radio guy.
• 29:20
  Speaker 12: In Ba's standing back.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: All right, Joey take it away.
• 29:23
  Speaker 12: Well, most times you're teasing things like what loud bar
• 29:26
  Speaker 12: you'll be podcasting from while really making another excuse to
• 29:29
  Speaker 12: drink with your friends, or what park bench and can
• 29:32
  Speaker 12: you identify what birds areturping in the background? Another various
• 29:36
  Speaker 12: podcasts sounds. Oh, by the way, thanks to the naked cowboy,
• 29:39
  Speaker 12: nice to know he's still smoking hot.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Obie.
• 29:41
  Speaker 12: Appreciate the old broadcasting skills there with the description and all.
• 29:45
  Speaker 12: But coming up after our amazing and much needed sponsor,
• 29:49
  Speaker 12: Opie heads to a real studio, one that was built
• 29:52
  Speaker 12: especially for this podcast. So no wind, food munching, crowd
• 29:56
  Speaker 12: talk with Adele playing in the background for four fucking minutes,
• 30:00
  Speaker 12: no city sounds we get, Opie, can I like you
• 30:03
  Speaker 12: remember him when he had a job? And Carl