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Patriots Unfiltered 12/16: Bills Recap, Necessary Fixes, AFC East/Playoff Picture · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. I was sing a little about
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  Speaker 2: It is Tuesday here at a Les Stadium. It's Evan, Paul, Me, Deuce,
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  Speaker 2: Matt and Alex in the back room and we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about Patriots. Of course, a disappointing when surrendering a twenty
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  Speaker 2: one nothing lead, and uh, the AFC East for the
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  Speaker 2: time being. You had that chance for a cap and
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  Speaker 2: T shirt, but there's still time for that. It's not
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  Speaker 2: the end of the world. No, not the end of
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  Speaker 2: the world.
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  Speaker 3: How are you doing, Fred? You came into that postgame
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  Speaker 3: show with your Darth h theater, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, post game in the moment, I was really really disappointed.
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  Speaker 2: I was dejected. You know, you had it for the taking.
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  Speaker 2: It's right there. It was like I was telling you
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  Speaker 2: guys in the postgame show in two thousand and six
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  Speaker 2: at halftime, you know, you thought the AFC Championship, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's make our hotel reservations. We've got this game, and
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  Speaker 2: it just kind of fell apart in the second half,
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  Speaker 2: much like this one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And do you think that how much
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  Speaker 3: of your disappointment is that they had the lead?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is that everything everyone thought it was going
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  Speaker 2: to be a close game. Yeah, I don't think anyone
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  Speaker 2: was shocked.
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  Speaker 5: Me.
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  Speaker 1: That's all of my disappointment. If they had just gone
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  Speaker 1: back and forth the whole game and they fell short,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be disappointed, sure, But I feel much better than
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  Speaker 1: the way the game unfolded. Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
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  Speaker 6: I actually feel the total opposite. And I'm on an
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  Speaker 6: island on those show, and that's okay. Barthas feels exactly
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  Speaker 6: how you all feel. So I know I'm probably in
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  Speaker 6: the minority here, but I feel like you skated with them.
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  Speaker 1: Again, like, oh, that's the bottom line of the game.
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  Speaker 6: Like I don't really feel I don't know what the
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  Speaker 6: word is, like, I just I feel as though I
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  Speaker 6: feel a lot of people have brought up twenty twenty
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  Speaker 6: one and the feeling of them after the bye kind
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  Speaker 6: of collapsing in twenty twenty one. But when the Bills
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  Speaker 6: came here the second time to play the Patriots in
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  Speaker 6: week sixteen to twenty twenty one, the Patriots got kind
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  Speaker 6: of dominated, Like it was really not a very competitive game.
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  Speaker 6: The Bills didn't punt like that's always the famous one,
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  Speaker 6: but they lost by two scores.
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  Speaker 4: It really wasn't a competitive game. Uh this.
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  Speaker 6: You know, statistically, the Patriots outplayed the Buffalo for most
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  Speaker 6: of this game, and you know they they obviously didn't
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  Speaker 6: win the game, and that's disappointing. But I looked at
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  Speaker 6: it and said, you went toe to toe with them,
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  Speaker 6: just like you did in Week five.
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  Speaker 1: The only idea that they ever in question for me though, so.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the only thing I'll push back on that is
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  Speaker 2: the second half. They didn't go toe to toe with them.
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  Speaker 2: They got dominating in the second half.
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  Speaker 4: They had the ball, they but they dominated the first half.
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  Speaker 2: They did, they did, But there's a tale you win
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  Speaker 2: the games at the second half.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they lost the game, no doubt, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But there's win games in the NFL in the second half, sure, yea.
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  Speaker 2: And they got dominated in the second half. They had
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  Speaker 2: like you know, I know, they had one drive that
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  Speaker 2: was one play, but even if you add that on
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  Speaker 2: the most they would have had the ball with like
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  Speaker 2: ten minutes in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: They yeah, they they when the chips were down.
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  Speaker 2: So you so you have to look at that and
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  Speaker 2: be real about it and say that that can't happen
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  Speaker 2: in the third game. That can't happen in the third game.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean to me, it goes to Drake May's
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  Speaker 3: a young player and this is, you know, still something
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  Speaker 3: that he's building towards. I just watched I read Evans review.
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  Speaker 3: I watched the Dan Rolofsky thing on you know, the
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  Speaker 3: dial spinning that the Bills did, and it made me
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  Speaker 3: just think back to, you know, the relationship that Josh
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  Speaker 3: and Brady had and the experience that they had, and
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  Speaker 3: they could go to the sideline and say they're doing this,
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  Speaker 3: you know, or we've seen this before. And so we're
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  Speaker 3: watching Drake May acquire experience and don't guarantee that he's
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  Speaker 3: going to turn into a clutch performer and be the
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  Speaker 3: guy that in the fourth quarter can be like Josh
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  Speaker 3: Allen is consistently, but you know, you're watching his development
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  Speaker 3: and I think these are important lessons to learn and
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  Speaker 3: it's a great reminder. And you know, with three weeks
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  Speaker 3: to go now until the playoffs of how these games
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  Speaker 3: go and the different things that are going to get
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  Speaker 3: thrown at you, and I think we're all here to
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  Speaker 3: watch Drake may develop over the next few years, and
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  Speaker 3: that's the biggest thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the ball knowers are telling us that in
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  Speaker 2: the second half, the Bills defense made some really good adjustments.
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  Speaker 2: They dropped more into coverage and kind of took away Hunter,
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  Speaker 2: Henry and Diggs and didn't really leave a lot for Drake.
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  Speaker 2: May you know, it's not like they didn't pass try
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  Speaker 2: to pass the ball the second half, So all this
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  Speaker 2: stuff that they don't conservatives is ridiculous. They only ran
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  Speaker 2: the ball once or twice in the second half. The
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  Speaker 2: whole second half. Now, they didn't have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: opportunities because nothing was working. So Mike, question to whoever
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  Speaker 2: wants to be today's ball nowhere is what could the
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  Speaker 2: Patriots have done to overcome that? Like we all hear
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  Speaker 2: about blitz beaters, what could they have done to be
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  Speaker 2: coverage beaters in this game?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I would just say, I mean you said they
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  Speaker 6: didn't run the ball. They didn't. I mean they ran
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  Speaker 6: eighteen plays and they threw it fifteen times. And after
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  Speaker 6: the success that they had in the first half running
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  Speaker 6: the ball, I don't know how how you kind of
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  Speaker 6: justify that.
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  Speaker 4: Now we'll talk to Josh McDaniel's on Thursday.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm sure he'll get asked that question, and I'm
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  Speaker 6: sure he'll answer it honestly. But you know, you go
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  Speaker 6: into a game against a week Bills run defense, and
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  Speaker 6: you run all over them in the first half, and
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  Speaker 6: then you only run it three times the entire second
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  Speaker 6: half of the game with the lead.
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  Speaker 3: And they start playing more cover two, so they're taking
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  Speaker 3: guys out of the box.
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  Speaker 6: You're playing too high safety, and they're trying to throw
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  Speaker 6: the ball into too high safety.
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  Speaker 4: Look, look, it's harder to do.
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  Speaker 2: So were the Bills doing something where they were showing
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  Speaker 2: run defense and maybe Drake was calling out of plays.
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  Speaker 1: It was a little bit of both.
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  Speaker 6: You know, sometimes they're starting one, sometimes they're starting too
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  Speaker 6: high safety. They did a good job mixing it up.
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  Speaker 6: That's what they do. They're a good disguised defense. You know,
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  Speaker 6: we talked about it all week, and I think that's
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  Speaker 6: probably the frustrating part about it for me, was that
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  Speaker 6: this game plan that they came out in the second
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  Speaker 6: half was a lot like the first half of the
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  Speaker 6: Week five game that gave Drake and the Patriots offense
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  Speaker 6: some problems. So I'm not tooting my own horn at all.
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  Speaker 6: But in game plan, I said, this is what Buffalo
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  Speaker 6: is going to do. They're going to come in and
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  Speaker 6: they're going to play cover two. They're going to play
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  Speaker 6: two man. They're gonna play with the two high safeties
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  Speaker 6: because this is what they did in the first half
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  Speaker 6: against the Patriots in Week five and the Patriots had
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  Speaker 6: six points at halftime, and this is what they're going
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  Speaker 6: to do now. They did it backwards. They started the
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  Speaker 6: game with some more post safety stuff and then they
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  Speaker 6: went to the cover two stuff in the second half
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  Speaker 6: instead of doing it the other way around. But at
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  Speaker 6: the same time, you know, you had to have known
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  Speaker 6: that these were the types of looks that were coming
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  Speaker 6: from Buffalo because this is what they do. And this
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  Speaker 6: is what I think you're going to start to see
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  Speaker 6: teams do more and more against Drake May because he
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  Speaker 6: wants he said, he doesn't want to be a check
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  Speaker 6: down Charlie.
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  Speaker 2: So it sounds to me like you're saying that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of lessons learned, the biggest lessons in the
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  Speaker 2: biggest people who need to learn the lessons. That's coaching,
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  Speaker 2: not not not Drake May, in the players.
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  Speaker 6: Look, the players got execute and they're the ones out
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  Speaker 6: on the field.
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  Speaker 4: But at the same.
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  Speaker 6: Time, you know, you look at the fact that you
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  Speaker 6: only ran the ball three times in the entire second half,
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  Speaker 6: and then you add that to the fact that they
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  Speaker 6: ran a lot of these two high safety looks and
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  Speaker 6: the Patriots just didn't have any answers. You know, they
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  Speaker 6: just weren't open guys for a lot of these plays.
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  Speaker 6: You know, the fourth down play that decided the game
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  Speaker 6: is ugly, like don't pull that film up, like it's
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  Speaker 6: just a it's just a pack of people in the
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  Speaker 6: middle of the field with no options for drank may.
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  Speaker 2: So the Bill's got the ball to start the third quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that they're a little panic set set
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  Speaker 2: in with Josh mcgin's like, uh oh, we got to
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  Speaker 2: start putting We got to keep putting points up here.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't about clock management. This is about this is
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  Speaker 2: gonna become a shootout and we need to score. And
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  Speaker 2: he panicked and that's why he didn't run enough.
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  Speaker 1: I think those are all fair points. I think they're
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  Speaker 1: all fair second guesses. Like Evan you know, said, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, how well they ran the ball, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think and I might be given too much credit. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: this is too rosy of a look. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels looked at the second half and said, we
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  Speaker 1: don't want to run the ball this half. I think
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that was the game plan coming out
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  Speaker 1: of the locker room. I'm like, they come out the
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  Speaker 1: first drive, Okay, so the Buffalo goes down, makes it
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  Speaker 1: twenty four to fourteen. First play, they hand the ball
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  Speaker 1: off minus one. Okay. So now it's second eleven, you
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  Speaker 1: got to throw, it's incomplete, Third and eleven you got
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  Speaker 1: to throw. You get sacked, so you go three and out.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously not ideal, okay, but no one would argue with
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  Speaker 1: the play selection on that on those particular three plays,
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  Speaker 1: right would anybody say second and eleven you'd run again?
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Continue, I mean, but it's it's reasonable to say, let's
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  Speaker 2: start throwing the ball.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying let's I don't think the decision was.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just talking about that.
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  Speaker 1: On second and eleven, I think, yeah, ninety nine out
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  Speaker 1: of one hundred plays in the NFL, on second and eleven,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to throw the ball. Okay, probably not. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not telling.
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  Speaker 6: You, I'm not asking him to throw the I hate
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  Speaker 6: throwing the ball on second long are running it on
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  Speaker 6: second and that's.
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  Speaker 1: Why I wouldn't do that.
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  Speaker 6: But you still have to look at it as you
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  Speaker 6: know what, what's what's the goal here, Like you have
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  Speaker 6: a seventeen point lead at halftimes, trying to possess the
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  Speaker 6: ball at that point.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't take this as like, oh, he's in the
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  Speaker 1: he's in the pocket for Josh because he likes Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so now you go. You end up going three and o,
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  Speaker 1: which to me was that that was the light switch
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  Speaker 1: in my head that said it's game on now, right
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  Speaker 1: because now it's twenty four to fourteen, they're going to
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  Speaker 1: get the ball back, and now they heat it up,
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  Speaker 1: they feel it, they've scored the last two times they've
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  Speaker 1: had the ball. Sure enough they got on to make
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  Speaker 1: it twenty four to twenty one. Now I think it's
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  Speaker 1: very fair on that next drive. And we talked about
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  Speaker 1: this on Sunday. I went down the list when we
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  Speaker 1: got calls on Sunday said they got very conservative in
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  Speaker 1: the second half, and I said, you're out of your mind. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was the complete opposite. And we went down the
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  Speaker 1: playlist past pass, pass pass pal on that second drive
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  Speaker 1: of the second half, which was really the only drive
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  Speaker 1: they had in the second half. Yeah, they had it.
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  Speaker 4: They started moving sixteen yard to Stevenson in the flat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So now this is where I think Evan's second
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  Speaker 1: guests of the run I think is legit, because they
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  Speaker 1: started throwing almost exclusively from that point on. Again, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that Josh winning at the half and said
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  Speaker 1: we neither. We ran it all over them in the
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  Speaker 1: first half. We don't need to do that anymore. It's
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  Speaker 1: time to throw it now. I think that's just kind
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  Speaker 1: of all of a sudden the game situation. Yeah right.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, I don't think it was anyone fault.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes we don't feel good unless we can point a
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  Speaker 1: finger and say Robert Splaine didn't play, that's why we lost.
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  Speaker 1: Or Milton Williams didn't play, that's why we lost. Josh
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  Speaker 1: mcdinials didn't run the ball, that's why we lost. I
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  Speaker 1: just think it's I don't there's a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: that happen in this game, and that's why.
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  Speaker 2: The other team is out there too.
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  Speaker 6: I just think that it's it's coupled with the fact
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  Speaker 6: that they didn't have a whole lot of passing game answers. Either, Like,
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  Speaker 6: it's not just the fact that they didn't run the ball,
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  Speaker 6: that's what I want to. Like, I kind of feel
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  Speaker 6: like that's I don't want to call it lazy, but
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  Speaker 6: like it's easy to point to it's low hanging fruit
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  Speaker 6: to sit here and say they only ran it three
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  Speaker 6: times in the second half.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So that's what I want to That's exactly, but
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  Speaker 2: that's how I started, Like what would have been the
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  Speaker 2: coverage beaters in the pass games.
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  Speaker 6: So usually when you play teams that play a lot
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  Speaker 6: of two man coverage, which is just man coverage underneath
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  Speaker 6: with two high safeties, they're going to take inside leverage
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  Speaker 6: because they have the safeties over the top, so they
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  Speaker 6: have help on the outside, right, So what they're what
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  Speaker 6: they're normally what you would look to do is throw outbreakers,
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  Speaker 6: right because you have the guys are sitting inside of
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  Speaker 6: the receiver, so if you run out then you're technically
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  Speaker 6: running away from the leverage.
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  Speaker 4: They did that on the throw to Hunter.
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  Speaker 6: Henry and Drake just missed the throw and Henry got
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  Speaker 6: hands on the ball probably what feels like he could
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  Speaker 6: have caught it as well.
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  Speaker 4: But the throws behind him right, and it's causing.
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  Speaker 6: Him to make a more difficult adjustment and catch than
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  Speaker 6: he probably needed to in that spot. But that's usually
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  Speaker 6: the answer to two man is to throw outside the numb.
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  Speaker 2: So let's go back to Mike Vrabel on Monday. I
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  Speaker 2: think it was people asked him about somebody else playing
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  Speaker 2: better and I think on the defense, and he felt
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  Speaker 2: it necessary to insert that our quarterback need to play
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  Speaker 2: better too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was an interesting answer, and so you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I kind of agree, and I said it on
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  Speaker 2: the postgames show. I know this is going to be sacrilegious,
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  Speaker 2: I said, but I don't think Drake may played well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I you know, I think that bears that out.
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  Speaker 6: Especially great start, especially in the second half, but even
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  Speaker 6: the first half, a lot of it was him running
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  Speaker 6: his runs right, the two red zone runs in the
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  Speaker 6: seventeen yard scramble, which was just ridiculous. But the second
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  Speaker 6: half was not good.
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  Speaker 2: So is this something where you know you're having trouble
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  Speaker 2: finding receivers, you know you have been a little inaccurate.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's not stupid. He knows when he's thrown
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  Speaker 2: behind guys. Should he have taken off a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I was, well, that's what I was going
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  Speaker 3: to say, and I mean, you know, and I Paul
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  Speaker 3: laid it out perfectly, and sometimes situation in the way
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  Speaker 3: the game unfolds. But again, you know cover two taking
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  Speaker 3: advantage of that like boxes, being able to run the
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  Speaker 3: ball with your running backs, but also with Drake a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. I mean, I think that would be an
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  Speaker 3: opportunity where you've got them playing two man, they got
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  Speaker 3: two guys high and the rest of them are sticking
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  Speaker 3: with their receivers. You know, there might be creative ways.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why I just look to this is an
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  Speaker 3: experienced game to me, not only for what it's like
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  Speaker 3: to go against a really good quarterback and it got
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  Speaker 3: to have a type situation, but also just exposing Drake
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: to more and more kind of coverages and you know,
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: to have point next time if they play Buffalo, the
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: game plan is going to include, you know, being ready
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: for this kind of stuff, whether they do it right
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: out of the gate or they switched to it at halftime.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: But I I it's just you wish they could have
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: run the ball a little bit more, eat up the clock,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: get them out of the cover too, bring them bring
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: a guy into the box, you know, get them thinking
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: about the run. And I understand what Paul said the
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: way and unfolded. It's hard to break and especially then
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's then it's a three point
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: game all of a sudden, you know, and then you're
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: down and the pressure to throw bills and it's just
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: it's hard to break.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: The possess the ball in the second half enough to
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: do anything. Yeah, well, yeah, I think.
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: There might have been a few opportunities for him to
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: run and store. Like by the letter of the law,
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: it would make sense to run against two men like
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: That's usually why you don't get away with playing two
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: man against a mobile quarterback is because it's the quarterback,
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: because there's nobody left to take the quarterback. Now, Buffalo
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: did spy him a couple of times, and I.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Thought they were effective. Yeah, in this game doing I
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: made mentioned a couple of times they had some fatties
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: that have angled him to the sideline. That guys that
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: normally said in the game, I said it twice. I
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: was like, that guy did a pretty good job of
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: making sure he couldn't get up the sideline. He wasn't
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: going to sack him because Drake was too athletic. But
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: he made him throw the ball away or he made
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: him at one point, he made him just go out
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: of bounds. And on the deciding play, the fourth down,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I thought Joey Bosa could not have played that play
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: any better. And you might say, well, he should be
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: able to beat Joey Bosa in space. Maybe he would have,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: but I think he would have slowed him down enough
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: that Drake wouldn't have gotten the first down. He would
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: have had to do what he did on the play
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: that Evan was talking about, the seventeen yard run. That
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: was just ridiculous. He would have had to make a
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: ridiculous play. Now, maybe he would have. Maybe he would have,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: but I think that you'd be really really being critical
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: right now if he had tucked that to try to
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: run on fourth down whatever it was, fourth and six. Yeah, yeah,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't make it. Yeah, at least he tried
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: to make a play. And Joey Bosa, Yeah, and we
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: give him credit. He's a good player and he made
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: a good play on that fourth down play. Yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: They were kind of I don't know if you want
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: to call it true droppy, but they were. They were
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: rushing three guys and they're keeping the fourth guy as
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: kind of a spy. But he was near the line
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: of scrimmage. Yes, and Mulato did it a couple of
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: times and actually got sacks on it because eventually the
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: pocket just kind of collapsed and and they sacked him.
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: And you know, they were just kind of hanging out
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: by the line.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Where they were.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: They were in the rush, but they weren't fully rushing,
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: and they were kind of just mirroring him in the
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: pocket as a spy.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: They had.
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: The second half was a great plan by Buffalo, like
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: they their coaches deserve. Krevit body Babbage is a good,
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: good defensive coordinator. Mcdermot's a great defensive mind, has been
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: for a long time. Like they they won, they won
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: the chess match.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: The no doubt about these two teams meet again. It's
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: gonna be fascinating.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: That'll be a big part of it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be the ultimate chess match, so.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Real, real quick. And I just I don't think much
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: of Buffalo's defense in general. I'm like most people like
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: they get up a lot of points. Certainly you can
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: run on them, but they do have some things that
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: statistically really stand out in the past defense. Mike and
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I were talking about this as we're walking back to
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the cars the other night. Freezing out took us this off.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: The first I remember the first game You're welcome. Yeah,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: the first game that they played was in my mind,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the most whatever you want to call them, plus throws
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: or tight window throw, whatever jargon you want to throw.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: That was the most of those throws that Drake made
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: was in the second half of the Buffalo game. It
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: probably a half dozen that like wow throws. He had
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: to make those wild throws again in this game, and
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: like Evan said, a little behind Hunter Henry on one.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: That throw in the first game was perfect, tight coverage
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: on third and twelve, but the throw was perfect, and
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Hunter Henry makes the catch or maybe he sees digs
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: on the sideline on that scramble and makes the throw.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: On this game just wasn't quite as shot. I know
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna sound and that can be the difference.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I'm gonna sound like what do you know?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: But mechanically he just didn't look like he was driving
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: the ball. He looked a little tentative on his throats.
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: I thought he just was a little confused about what
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: he was looking at.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: I don't think that they're like I know a lot
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: of people are, you know, pointing to maybe the weather
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: or or him just you know, having some sprays and
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: not throwing the ball particularly well.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: I saw a lot of just uncertainty.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: The tentativeness, not one hundred percent seeing the field very well.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: You know, you see, we saw it back in camp,
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: like when he does those double clutches, and like we
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: we've seen him enough now that you kind of just
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: know what it looks like when he's just first.
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: Half of the Cincinnati Yeah, a couple of those kinds
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: of you know, he had one he took a sack
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: and like Kyle Williams is coming open on an incut
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: like behind the linebackers, and like if he's feeling it,
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: he's just.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: Layering that thing in there every single time.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: And he did one of the double clutches and then
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: he felt the pressure and he just went down and
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: I was like, oh, do you think there it is?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: You know, during the week it was drilled into too much,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: this is a game, we can't turn the ball over,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: and that that was in his head.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I hope not, because I think that's
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: a bad way to go into a game against the Bills,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: where you just there's gonna be big plays, there's gonna
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: be mistakes. You just have to kind of cut it
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: loose and not get too tight, you know. I mean,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I know what you're getting at that he went in tight.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I would say maybe that happened in the locker room,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and we talked about that at halftime, where you know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: it was how we were feeling.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, just don't screw it up.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: You got a huge lead, you know, but I still
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: knew that they had a chance to get into it.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: But maybe he got a little tight. You know, maybe
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: it's right there for the taking. Just don't screw it up,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: you know, when you get to that mode, whereas you know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: maybe it was tied at halftime, you're going in like
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: we're in a dogfight, guys, we got to give it
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: everything we have, and you know, maybe it's a little different.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think there was a weird
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: dynamic in sports, but football in particular, when you have
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that really big lead at the half, it's almost like
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: you can't blow this one right, you know, And that
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you see it every once in a while. You know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not telling you it happens all the time. Twenty
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: one nothing leads go away. But I don't think it's
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that rare for teams that are you know, I'm not
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: talking vople talking about like the Eagles blowing out the
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Raiders on Sunday, you know, because there's so much better
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: than the Raiders I'm talking about, you know. You know
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the Patriots and Broncos game that night, Sunday night game
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: was freezing cold. It's like twenty four to nothing, twenty
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: four to three. I was there. These are pretty even, yeah,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: but I think it was twenty four nothing at one point.
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, twenty four three and a half times, and it's it's,
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: you know, these are two good teams, Like you don't
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: expect one of them to be twenty four points ahead
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: of the other, and you know, like Jesus, we're kind
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: of blowing them out here, you know, and you see
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: it like.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: There's an EBB and a flow. It's almost like an
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: NBA game, like everybody makes a run, you know. So
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I did think Buffalo would eventually offensively make a run.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I just thought the Patriots would be able to score
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: enough to keep them at bay, and it just never happened.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Knew exactly what you were saying a half time where
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: it was like, I mean, it just seemed like the
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Bills had no answer for the Patriots, even you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: getting the field goal right at the end. It's just, man,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: they're moving the ball at will they get what they're doing,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: you know, it's it's there. They might only score a
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: couple of touchdowns in the second half, but that should
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: be enough, especially if you possess the ball for you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: five six seven minute drive that bubble.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even about points as much to me as
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it was about you know, just possessed the ball a
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: little bit and there won't be enough time to make
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: it control of the game.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: My final, my prediction should have come out thirty one.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: That should have been the finals prediction.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I mean through that lens though, ev Like, is that
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: just a really kind of ballsy choice by Buffalo to say,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: in the second half we're going to cover two now,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: you know, and they run the ball on us a
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: little bit, we're going to take somebody out of that.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: Like, to me, that's when I think of a Sean
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: McDermott defense. I think of overfronts, nickel and cover two
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: and like that's that's that's the base of their defense
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: and has been really since he was in Carolina with
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: the cam Panthers and stuff like that, and Josh Norman
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: picking off passes and cover two all day long.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Which surprised me a little bit was just how infrequently
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: they went after him, because like that's another like I
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: don't know all of the excess no's that Evan talks about,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: but I think is Sean McDermott coming from like Jimmy
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Johnson and just being really aggressive and that that's they
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: certainly went after him in the first game they went out.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe they just looked at it and said, you know,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: we can't do that again because he beat that the
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: last time. Because I don't think they were overly aggressive
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: from a pass rush standpoint no in the game, and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I think the past protection by the way, I thought
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: that the offensive line was really good in this.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: Game, probably one of their best games of the year.
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: But just last night this was probably a Catch twenty
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: two conversation more.
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: But there's a lot of like above us, no, no,
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: I took no, not above you guys, just like very nerdy,
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: uh the there's a conversation right now amongst the ball
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: knowers about progression reads versus coverage reads. So progression reads
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: are just a simple one, two, three, right, Like, just
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: you're starting at one, you're.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: Going If he's not open, you're going to two. If
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: he's not open, you're going to three. Coverage reads is
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: is it man?
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Is its zone?
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: Is it one high? Is it too high? And that's
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: where we're going to start the progression It.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Determines, right.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: So when you see something pre snapt it, yeah, I
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: knew you guys would understand.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: I just thought it was a little bit jargoning.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: When you see.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: Pre snap one thing and then the defense goes and
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: changes the picture into something different post snap.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: It's not just the quarterback, it's also.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: The receivers, it's it's all everybody in the passing game
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: has to see it the same way. And even at
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: the end, I would say with Brady, this McDermott defense
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: gave Brady some trouble too, because not because it was
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: taking down Brady, it was taking down.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: The system right where they have all.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Of these different types of coverage reads and option routes
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: and all this different stuff going on. And when you're
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: on different pages. It's just hard to execute that.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: That makes complete sense, which to me lends more to
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the idea of making a backyard school, you know, game
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: and running the ball. Drake just just make it backyard football.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: Well, to Paul's point about week five, you know, Drake
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: just said ef it right and just started playing out
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: of structure. And I think that that is there's some
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: truth to that. Now you don't want to live out
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: of structure.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: It's not, but it.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Keeps them honest and now you can get back to
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: your system right.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: And in the first half, I think they just kind
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: of sat in single high safety. They kind of knew
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: what was coming, they were seeing it well, and then
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden the second half, everybody looked confused.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Even Digs a couple of times.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you, because there's been a couple
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: of comments that I've seen from the AT and t's
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: that have indicated that he didn't look sharp running his routes.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, him and Hunter Henry were just kind of running
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: into coverage the entire second half in an uncharacteristic way.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: So I just think a lot of this has to
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: do with, you know, the system and it again specifically
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: this type of defense that Buffalo runs. But again, like
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: from what I said at the beginning, I think it's
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: a good thing that this is what we're talking about.
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: This is not about the fact that Buffalo just was
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: the much more talented or the much better team. We're
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: actually talking about like the minutia of the chess match
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: at the game, and this is why the Patriots lost.
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: And I'd say the same thing with the kickoff coverage,
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: which we can get to at some point too, Like.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: That's a that's a definitee catch twenty ten.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: This is all like x's and o's that we're disgusting,
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: which like in the past five years it's been Buffalo's
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: just much better than us. Yeah right, and there's really
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: no chance. Yeah, this was they got out foxed a.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Little bit in the second half of this game, not
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: just a little bit.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: So that's why I say that third meeting, if it happens,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: will be really intriguing.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, schematically it'd be interesting.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I still came out of this game feeling like the
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Patriots defense needs an upgrade and talent in the offseason
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: and going back to what Houston did, and I mean, look,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say, they're going to get will Anderson
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: out there, but you see the impact of a disruptive
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: defensive vent who is just a problem every single play.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: And the Patriots don't have one of those guys.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I mean when it was really clicking with Williams and
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Barmore at the early like and Landry was healthy and
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Chase was like, yeah, it looked something like that, but
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: that doesn't matter. Now they got they gotta find, you know,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: more talented, you know, deal with these guys for.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Some you know, some weird reason. This game had a
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: fifth quarter and both teams had time, you know, a
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: chance to regroup, go to the locker room, come back
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: out and play another quarter. I don't think it would
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: have been a lot different. I don't think the Patriots
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: defense had an answer at that point.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: No.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen Drake have some slow starts when
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Paul talked about the Cincinnati game and kind of turns
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: it around and you know, bounces back and starts to
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: make some throws. But I but I I think everything
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: we're saying I agree with it.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Just they felt like they were off they got off track.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: It was it wasn't an amount of time, they just
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: they needed to they needed to find a special play
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: on defense or offense that they just never got.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: I was more disappointed with the defense film than the offense,
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: because at least the offense had the first half to
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: hang its hat on, you know, like, all right, we
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: got you know, kind of worked in the second half,
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: but that first half was that was cinema. Like watching
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: that run blocking was really impressive, really impressive. Uh, you
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: know season highs and yards before contact. Uh, you know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: rushing yards like just all the way down the board.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: They they really did play well in the first half.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: Defensively this game, they were all out of sorts, like
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: they uh, they were not on their details. They weren't
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: on their fundamentals. They're busting coverages, the techniques. I didn't
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: want to go there. They weren't DTF And you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: A variable talks about it yesterday, like.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: The rush coordination.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: What do you think it means fundamental.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: Their rush coordination on certain plays like where guys are
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: just kind of running into each other, or like one
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: line side of the lines running a stunt, but the
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: other side of the line ain't running the same stunt.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: And you know, the the Knox touchdown was that like
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: it just it was not a very well coordinated defense
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: on Sunday.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: So was it just pointing loss, But not the end
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: of the world. The Patriots can still clinch a playoff
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: berth with a win next week against the Ravens or
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: if Houston or the Colts lose or tie, they can
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: still clinch that playoff berth. Rather do it by winning,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: and they can even clinch the AFC East. But even
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: if they lose next week, if they win the last
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: two against the Dolphins and the Jets, they can still
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: have the AFC East. So there's still a lot of
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: good football left to play here. Even though this was.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: When they sees if they win the next two weeks
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: and the Bills lose to the Eagles.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: They win. Yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I like to watch the little of that Pittsburgh Miami
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: game last night. It made me feel a little better
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: because coming out of this game, it just felt like
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: this is all lining up to me, like a game
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: for the AFC East against the Dolphins in Week eighteen
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: right here.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: But watching the Dolphins last night, they looked a little cold.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: They didn't you know, it didn't look like they were
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: you know, they already got knocked out of the playoffs obviously,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: even Pittsburgh. It's like it's not all that impressive, and
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: you know, you're reminded that the AFC playoff field this
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: year it's a it's a full of you know, I.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Did want to bring up one point, you know, because
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: everyone's saying all the bit the best teams are in
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the NFC. The only silver lining of the Broncos, you know,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: beating Green Bay is that, okay, AFC team one of
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: the you know, the better teams in the NFC, flat out,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: you know, even though it's in Denver, so.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Classic like this a perfect Green Bay, like just perfect
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: one of their games, Like they kill the bad teams
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: and then they get into like a team with a
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: pulse and all of a sudden they just top.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: But this year for them, it's been the opposite, is it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: They've lost to They've lost that home, they lost to Cleveland,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: they lost that home to Carolina, you know, and beating
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the bag out of Detroit, you know, like so this
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: year it's been a little different. But I said before
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the game, I said on Thursday, I'm not a believer
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: in the quarterback. I think he's very up and down.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Be careful, I know I'm not. I'm not a believer
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: in Jordan Love. I'm just not in Packers boat Knicks.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, for Denver, that's a that should is
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: that's you know, I I've always I've thought they'd been
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: good for a while, but a lot of people really
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: doubted them. You shouldn't. You shouldn't doubt them.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Now it's a good win for for Denver for sure.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: And I mean they're getting close to locking this thing
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: up to get that that valuable first round by so
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: you know it's somebody's gonna have to go to Denver.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Fred to two out of three they would need to win, right, Yeah,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: so minimum the Patriots, the Ravens, I think it's pretty
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: much done.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: They were down in their game against the Packers.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: Didn't watch much of it, but down nine. Yeah, they
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: were down in the second half, came back there. They
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: are another team that's kind of been a second half team.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Who is this?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Denver down nine and Green Bay had the ball.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Parsons towards a cl I was late, got hurt late.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Who Nick says nuts?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean he's much better generally with the
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: game on line. This particular game, he was pretty good
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the whole ball.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: So how good would your quarterback play if he only
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: played in his home stadium?
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Though, that's true me, it is the Patriot three times.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: His first and second half was especially his like even
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: his first three quarters versus just the fourth quarter. He's
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: like like bottom ten quarterback in the first three quarters
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: and then a top ten quarterback in the drake. Yeah,
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: it's pretty credible.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he does give you some chances though, he'll he'll yeah,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: you know, he's very to those defensive like he's just
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: got a very high energy rate to him.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: And yeah, sometimes there's there's stores that make you scratch
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: your head, but then there are other you.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Got away against the Packers. Yeah, a couple of ping bongs, like.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: We're just gonna gloss over the last We're not doing that.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I went and looked at the told Brandon was back. No,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know. They ran they ran a power in
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: school or cleaning it up on the kickoff offensive lineman
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: at the point of attack running duo.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Now I had to see because I mean Brabel said,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: you know was yesterday pointed out like that they do
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: talk the new scheme on him or you know, it
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: was a new kind of play and so I'm like, well,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I got to see what this looks like. And you
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: know what, isn't hard to figure out exactly what they
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: were doing. It's just it's interesting because it's so obvious
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: what they're doing. But you catch a team unawares and
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: you get that little angle and they're gone. And then
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: they went back to just kind of a regular right
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: up the middle, and then that was the last one
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: that they had.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: So yeah, now he now leads the league and kickoff
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: return averages. You could probably little juice, yeah, probably could imagine.
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: But man, they just in all three phases, Like, I
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: feel like they just got kind of out coached. And
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: I'm honestly pretty surprised because I think McDermott's a good coach.
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: I think Rabel's a better coach, and I am surprised
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: that this was sort of what happened. Like I really
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: thought the Patriots with Buffalo moving forward, would have a
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: coaching advantage, and I don't think that that's how it
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: unfolded on Sunday.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I said in the postgame show, we are You.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Usually you're talking about the special teams.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: It's a miskick or a blocked punt, you know, it's
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: never usually your kickoff cost three times three times. They
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: especially right out of the third quarter where already felt
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: like okay, guys, like you know, we gotta we gotta
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: turn the momentum around here, and boom right off the.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Bat, it's like, you know what, all right? You know,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: they go down and score and make a twenty four
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to fourteen and make them take six or seven minutes.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: You're give them the ball at midfield and it's like
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: they're halfway there.
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: Well, their first two touchdown drives were off of big
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: kickoff returns and it only had.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: To go like forty yards forty two and forty four.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: That's the way you get back in the game when
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: you're down by three scores is just you know, we're
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: big special team swings and field position.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: But you know, the other thing that they just have
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: to change is this this second half offensive production.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Overall, they haven't been able to score in the second half.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah really all year now. I haven't had good numbers
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: And his breakdown too because I because I've been meaning to,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: like got to find some tangible like something to look at,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: because the eyeball test tells you, you know, even when
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I look back on my little book and you see
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: just the point totals.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: But again we always talk about well, but they were
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: up big, they could take the foot off the gas,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and like now I'm getting concerned, See I do, and
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I I do think it's it's important to look at
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: each game and not just the generalities. The generalities that
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: they haven't been as good offensively in the second half,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: that's a fact. I can't argue against it. I would
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: say they're not all the same. Like this game, they
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: were just bad offensively in the second half. There was
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: no taking the foot off the gas now, none of that.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: They just didn't play as well in the second half
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: as they did in the first half the Giants game.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I thought they played a really good second half on
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. With that huge lead, they
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: just did what they needed to do to keep the
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: clock running and get out of there. So it's not
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: always the same. Even though they didn't they think they
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: only scored three points against the Giants. They scored seven
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: in this one. So like you want to just look
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: at points, you know this would say well they were
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: better in this game than that game, but they weren't.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Maybe they were able to have a different mindset. If
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: you have that lead, just keep going, you know.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: But I think they did a good job of that
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: in the Giants game. If we have a big lead,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: we're going to possess the ball and we don't care
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: how many points we score, but we're going to chew
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: up the clock and we're going to end the game.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: He needs to think about scoring points.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: In this game. They needed to do something to possess
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the ball, and they didn't, like eighteen plays in a
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: whole half. Is what was the time of possession in
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the second half? It was like sixth plus right, Yeah.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: Well that sixty five yard touchdown, so you had it
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: for ten minutes?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill, the time in the game was thirty thirty five,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: twenty one to twenty four to thirty nine.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Oh in the second half, yeah, I don't have nobody
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: in the second half. I heard it was like six plus
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: minutes that the Patriots had the ball.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: I think, you know, just the So in the first
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: half they're the best offense in football by pretty much
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: every metrics, scoring EPA, whatever. Second half they're twenty second
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: in offensive scoring just points, like not doing anything fancy
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: on you just points first to twenty second in the
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: second half, and I've downplayed it because I think it's
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: you know, it's the Giants, it's the Titans, it's the Saints.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: It's like, you don't need to go and score forty
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: points against these teams to win those games. But this
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: was the first time that they needed it and they
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: didn't have it. You know, they they needed to keep scoring,
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: they didn't have it. You know, McDaniels historically has not
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: been a big script guy. I've heard that kicked around
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: the Bills locker room that oh, they had a great
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: first fifteen plays and then you know, they kind of
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: ran out of place. Historically speaking, he's not McDaniels is
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: not someone that calls a game that way.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if that has changed just they
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: might have.
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: I don't know, but I think you know, you look
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: at the first in the second half of this game
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: in particular, where they needed to keep scoring, and you know,
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: the splits are just are not good. And really, if
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: you go back now, I don't know six weeks really
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: to that Atlanta game, they haven't really had a lot
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: of sustained offense in the second half at all, because
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: they had really they they've had four touchdown drives in
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: the second half over the last like five or six weeks,
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: and a couple of them are Henderson.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: House called Tampa in this one, right.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: So like they've really only had like one or two
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: real touchdown drives in second halfs in like a month.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean eighty.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Like that's I was just to say the kind of
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: thing you can sweep under the rug when you're playing
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: bad teams and you're winning, and now when you're stared
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: in the face with a division rival and a reminder
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: that this is how playoff games go and you have
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: to score at the end.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Now, that's why I look at this as as a positive.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: As a learning experience for this team and a reminder
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: of what these games are like, because I do think
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: it's hard to make like hard judgments on your team
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: when you are winning and you're in a win streak.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: But when you lose a game like this, especially in
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: a fashion you lost it, it's a lot easier to
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: turn the screws on the team and really focus in
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: on Look, these are the real problems right now. And
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: we've been talking about red zone defense for like three months,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: but now we're really seeing it come home to roost,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: and these are the problems that have to get fixed
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: or it's what's going to bounce them out of The fourth.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Quarter is eighty eight to sixty eight. It's the only
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: quarter they're getting out of score. As a matter of fact,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: it's the only the other quarters aren't close. Yeah, the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Patriots is ninety four to sixty seven, one seventy one,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and eighty to fifty the first three quarters. But in
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter they get outscored by twenty That's not
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: a blip. That's fourteen games. You're getting outscored by twenty
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter. Again, some of those right,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: you can garbage point hues. They haven't allowed a lot
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: of garbage points. No, I'll say that they have not
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: allowed a lot of garbage points, but they have not
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: been able to score, you know, as consistently. It has
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: to change the second half.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: I think that you know, I tried to take like
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: a let's look at things that are actual trends and
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: not just one off things that happen in this game,
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: because there were you know, I don't think they're going
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: to give up three huge kickoff returns in every single game, right, Like,
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: I think that that was just sort of the way
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: this game went. But the second half scoring is a thing, now,
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: like that's a trend. The run defense I talk about that.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Is just that's true.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: Since Milton Williams has gone out, that run defense has cratered.
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: I mean they're bottom five in the league and across
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: the board since Milton Williams. It's a very very clear
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: split pre you know, pre Williams injury, post Williams injury. Uh,
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: with the run defense with or without Robert Spulane you know,
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: in that mix as well. Uh, and the red zone
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: defense is also last in the NFL. Yeah, So you know,
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: these are the things that are not just a one
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: half of football thing that happened just against Buffalo. You know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: those are the types of things that are keep happening.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: And this run defense is going to face Lamar Jackson
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: and Derek Henry on Sunday night without Milton Williams. Like
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: we'll see about Splaine, Like hopefully he plays in that game.
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: But you don't have any time to figure it out,
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: Like you just gotta, you know, go out there and
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: do something different.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I guess, is this a game where you tell if
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: you're gonna beat us? Ravens you're gonna do it with
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's arm.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's easy to say that, But
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: at the same time, it's you know, it only takes
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: one uh, you know, in other words, we're going to
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: sell out to stop the stop Even still, you would think,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: you know, I I would almost wonder about sitting Spleene
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: out of this one. Just I mean, I know, if
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: you guys saw, there's like the odds if they win
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: or they lose, Like, it's not really an impactful game
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: for the Patriots overall.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Standing.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's impactful for my site.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: No, that's and that's totally reasonable, and good teams try
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: to win all the time and all that.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, if he's not healthy, if
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: he's not healthy.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: And you know, he can't play this Sunday and now
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: we're going to trot him out there to try to
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: go tackle Derrick Henry. Now I'd like to have him
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: for the Jets and the Dolphins game and as healthy
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: as we can get him into the playoffs.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously they don't want to limp into the playoffs.
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: The Jets and Dolphins games have more leverage, but this
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: Ravens game because it is an AFC, and a common
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: opponent game is not like totally bit with the tiebreakers
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: is not totally nothing because.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Two, three, four, well, the Bills.
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: Already beat the Ravens earlier on in the season, So
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: it's a common opponent game, which is the third tiebreaker,
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: and it's also a conference game, which is the fourth tiebreaker.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: So if they end up finishing with the same record
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: in this division record, now we start triggering all these
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: other you know, uh tie breakers. But I just the
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: one thing about the run defense that really I was
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: telling Duce this earlier, like watching it, like you can't
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: just right up the gut, like you know, it's come on,
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: Like that's to me, that is like not schematic, it's
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: not that's that's a little bit of pride. Like they
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: ran it right up the a game down your throat
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: with James Cook and like at some point, like you
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: put Barmore and Tonga inside there and you say enough
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: is enough, Like you can't just let them keep doing that.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: And you know, like when they run up there, like
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: I think they had two runs for eleven, another one
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: for sixty if something like that.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: They didn't break any point, they didn't break.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Any but they're getting first downs on one run.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: That's it was all positive runs, you know, you know
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: they they were doing. And you know, like you know,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Evan when you brought up like forgetting about the things
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: that were one offs, and I agree, the kick coverage
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: is the one off. And I think that you can
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: sort of delude yourself into thinking, oh, well, we're not
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: going to allow those kickoff returns. Do you honestly think
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: that they wouldn't have had five straight touchdown drives if
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: they had to go seventy yards instead of forty yards
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: or fifty yards or whatever it was the way that
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: game was unfolding. Yeah, yeah, Like the total yards that
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Buffalo ended up with were because there was no more
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: yards to get right, you know, like they just every
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: drive ended with a touchdown, you know, for five straight drive.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: The more plays you you know, force them to you know, execute, of.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Course you don't. You don't want to give them the
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: ball at midfield. I'm not suggesting that that was irrelevant.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: It wasn't irrelevant. It was it was a problem in
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: this game. I'm just saying you can make yourself think,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: like we'll just we'll clean up the kick coverage and
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: then we win this game. I don't think you do. No, No,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: it's you need to clean up the kick coverage. Yeah, absolutely,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I was more talking about what No.
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: I know the kickoff coverage is one but that was
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: one off. I also expect Drake to play a lot
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: better than he did in the second half.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: I got a hole.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: That was a one off, and just from all the
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: things that we have at our disposal, like he's never
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: struggled that much with cover two.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: So like I like to me, like that was that
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: had to have even.
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: His rookie season, he didn't look like that against that
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: type of defense. So you have to hope that that
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: was just a one off. But the run defense thing
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: is a real thing. That's been happening really since the
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: Tampa Bay game, which Milon Williams played in. But even
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: you know, post Milton Williams is kind of just better
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: for the.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: So I had a prediction last night we had our
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: company holiday party. Yeah, Evan, you weren't there.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Here's the lab.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: So I made a prediction that I'm going to make
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: publicly here all week. I think Rabel is going to
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: be up Drake May's ass. It's going to be a
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: tough week for Drake May. But Drake may will have
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: a three hundred plus yard game against the Ravens and
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: he'll get a game ball in the locker room after
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: the game. Okay, so there you go. I like that's
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: my prediction. I like, well, I mean, I gotta be honest.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: When Rabel said the thing about Drake, I didn't really flinch.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: I mean thought it was definitely interesting and notable, but
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: it was it was a left turn.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't have to question was a point Christian Barmore, Right.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Well, and I think he was doing the thing where
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: you try to talk about all your play all your players,
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: but but.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Right he talked about the quarterback on the question about right,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: but who you go to start playing? Christian Gonzales sure
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: didn't allow catching, I know, but he didn't like can
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: we talk about that too? Oh yeah, yeah no, well
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: well let's wait. First hold that.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it didn't my hour to grieve, and
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: then I like it.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I think Drake needs to have that. Drake needs to
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: going to say, don't misunderstand me saying that. I think
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: that there was a directive. It was like a directed
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: comment that Rabel had with me saying like this is bad.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: This is like, no, but I thought it was interesting.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Fred's theory of him being up Drake's backside is that's
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: probably accurate based on that comment. Yeah, Like I think
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: he feels like he needs I think he knows that
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: this kid's incredibly talent wanted, and we need to do
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: whatever we can to get the most out of him.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: We need him to be the best leader he can be.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: We need to you know, we need him, We need
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: him to be everything we need that guy to be.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: And all he knows, all Rabel knows is Tom Brady
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: and how he did it, you know. And I'm not
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: talking about how he did it physically, how he did
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: all the other stuff. And I think that's what he's looking.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: At, you know. And you could say, well, let's putting
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: too much pressure on the young kid, And if I'm Verbel,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like, too bad.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Well you want to do that.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not going to win.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Unless two minutes left in the game. You're down for
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: that's pressure, Like, you can't.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Too bad you're going to do Like, if you can't
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: take my pressure, you're certainly not going to be able
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: to take the pressure of the playoffs. So let's go.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Let's go and I think Vrabel is the right kind
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: of coach to take that stuff with Drake, and especially
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Drake having three older brothers, I think he's used to
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: that kind of getting called out. I mean, look at
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: the video we put out right when he was trapped
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: and his brothers are all calling him names and stuff.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: But I think Mike Rabel is the right guy for
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: this job. We've heard about them talking about Drake pronouncing
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: better and talking better in the huddle, and you know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: like these little things that he's going to need to device.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: He's no you know, wilting Violet or whatever the saying is,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: shrinking Violet. He'll be able to take it. He's not
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Tony Easton. He'll be able to take the criticism. And
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: I would imagine he accepts it. He wants it. He
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: wants to be coached hard.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: He said that, yeah, you know.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: And speaking of Tony's and check out the nineteen eighty
• 47:23
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• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Whatever. Oh, come on, you can do better than I had.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't land the plane is probably.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Better than that.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: All right, I hate it? Scripted?
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Have more did you talk about?
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about go catch but we were in the
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: press box during the game going like, oh god, I
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: got torched on that one.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Oh Gonzo, he's a look at step behind on that one.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: He dropped it, thank god. Coleman also took his manhood
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Josh, I don't have anything, are you?
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Are you worried about rankling the masses?
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: No, I'm I probably should just I don't have anything
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: nice to say, so I'm just not going to say
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: it at all.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I guess we'd bob line. He it was
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: a sneaky, subpar game.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: I don't even know it was sneaky.
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, you know he got tours three
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: times in the game, and man coverage busted a zone
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: coverage got mauled by Keon Coleman on a design quarterback
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: run where he didn't look too interested in trying to
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: make a tackle. You know, it's December football, like the
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: playoffs are coming up. You know, it's you're the number
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: one corner, Like let's go, like what are we doing?
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, like Josh Palmer, here's.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: A thirty two year old Brandon Cooks, Like, come on, man,
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: you're better than that. Like that's the part that's frustrating
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: about it is we know he's better than that.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you do. In the game, we see
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Chucky Trees running stride for stride down the.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Side, right right right, and yeah, like I mean you
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: could art like.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Speak Paul.
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: They ran the crossers on that first plate of cooks
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: that he dropped, and like he got picked a little bit, sure,
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: but like you're Christian Zalvez is, there's all pro corner
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: Brandon cooks, So go ahead.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Sorry, alright.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: So I got an email from a woman and I
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: apologize because I must have deleted it. But when I
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: read it, I'm like, hmm.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: That you know.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: So it was cold, yeah, you know, and Josh Allen
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: comes out with long sleeves and looked like maybe even
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: something underneath that, and you know, ready for the cold
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: and our guy comes out with the short sleeves. You know,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be tough. But is there a less is
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: there a lesson to be learned?
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: There?
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: It's like no warm up, warm up, like get warm,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: do whatever you have to do without infringing on your
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: your passing motion or whatever. But don't you know you
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: don't have to be a hero that way. It was
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: an interesting you have to do to be warm.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: I I was also noticed that on the walk in
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: videos a lot of guys were walking in and T shirts.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Mac Hollins of course had pants do it out there,
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: but it just made me wonder if this was, you know, something,
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: if that they a message this week of the cold,
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: but this is Buffalo. But it felt a little bit though,
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: it felt a little not performative.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Is probably the area, but you know, trying to send a.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Message that the cold doesn't bother us, you know, and
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: and I don't know, I might be reading way too
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: much into it, but that was kind of the I'm
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: not criticizing guy's.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Got a T shirt on coming in. You know, like
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: each individual guy sort of knows what he's most comfortable with.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: So if Drake is just not comfortable with sleeves, like
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: forget about the weather, like, then I'm perfectly fine the
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: whole Like I'm macho, I don't have any time for that.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: It's offensive line. Nobody, nobody wore more clothes than Tom
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Brady when it was cold. Nobody scuba stack and he's
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: the best bad weather quarterback I've ever seen. So whatever
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: you need to do individually to make sure you can
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: perform is what I want you to do. And if
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: that means you don't wear sleeves, fine with it. But
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I don't want you not to wear sleeves because you're
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: trying to send a message to the other team baseball.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: That's exactly how I feel.
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: Is just you gotta He might need to just kind
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: of go through some different iterations of his cold weather
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: here figuring it out, Uh, Will Campbell. I remember that
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: he doesn't wear a shirt underneath his pads and hasn't,
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: like since college.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: And that's fine if that's what he's comfortable playing.
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: The Saint Baton Rube like you know, like this is
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: and he's not playing right now, so I get that.
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: But you know, at the same time, you know, did
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: Brady I don't remember, like did he He didn't.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Wear the scuba suit like right away, like that was probably.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Learn you know, what did he wear in the Oakland
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: game in the playoffs?
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: You know, the snowball game?
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: And I think he.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Had would have to quite scuba suit? Yet No, I
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: don't think he had progressed with I never liked the head,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the head part of it, and.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know if the scuba suits.
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: The answer for Drake I'm just saying, like this is
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: unfortunately part of being a young player in the league
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: is he's also going to have to have some trials
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: and tribulations of what gear he's going to play in
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: cold weather. You know, gloves, no gloves, sleeves, no sleeves
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: like you know, long John's underneath the pants or no,
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: you know, like you're gonna have to figure it out.
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: And Brady eventually went to the scuba suit and it worked,
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: but that might not be he might feel constrained in
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: the Scooba suit, like I don't know.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: I remember in twenty one when Matt came out, I
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: think it was up in Buffalo, and it was just like, oh,
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: he looks cold like and he had the scuba suit
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: on too. That's at least what I'll say about Drake,
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: like he never really gives a vibe of like feeling
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: cold like he at least that's on part. But I agree,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, just more experienced stuff he's got to learn,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: especially playing in this weather.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of the thing that I'm talking about,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Like I if you you can tell when you look, yeah,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: that guy looks cold, right, Oh, that guy's comfortable. Like,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: so I'm telling you that Drake may look I didn't
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: think he looked cold the other day.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't either. Yeah, I didn't either. But it
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: was an interesting email that I thought, Oh, you know.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just look at how light of the snowball game
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: and Tom definitely had sleeves. Yeah.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see in a couple of weeks against
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Miami and it'll be you know, January at that point.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: So can I say a couple of things.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: I feel like there's too many.
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: A couple of nice things, real quick design quarterback runs
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: in the red zone. Yeah, there you go.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: You're welcome.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: That's what we're talking.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Just like he's like, and after the bye that's when
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: we'll start running. I was listening to Patriots and you
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: know what they mentioned struggle you.
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: Can go like, but yeah, the design quarterback runs two
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: different design plays for him. Both of them worked. Even
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: just putting that on film. Yeah, it's good for other
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: teams to worry about.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: That was great.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: The whole run game in the first half was awesome,
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: Like they ran the terrific album unbelievably. Well, that was
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: the next place I was going to gore on Henderson's
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: A Star.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, that guy's awesome.
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: So that run hit up and I know, like some
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: you know, yeah, like could he hit some more singles
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: with the Homers Every once in a while. I actually
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: thought in this game he actually did hit a couple
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: of singles. Also, you know, I had a couple of
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: four or five, you know, eight yard runs.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: He's finding himself here, Yeah, starting to get it.
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: That that speed is different, you know, Like it's one
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: thing to see the backside, you know, open up and develop,
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: but then to be able to outrun the entire defense
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: right to the edge to get the best case scenario.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: And this is no disrespect to Remindra who you guys know,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I really like his physicality. But if the same exact
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: play unfolds with Reminder, the best case scenario is a
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: fifteen yard Yeah, like he slips out the backside, gets
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: up the sideline, and the safety comes over and has
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: an angle on it and probably knocks him out of bound.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Whereas Henderson comes out the backside and they cannot he
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: outruns the angle. I know, it's like the rabbit drill
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: at training and listen, I know a lot of keeps
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: it when the rabbits.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: A lot of people like oh you know, it wasn't
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: a very good block. I give a lot of credit.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: And I was impressed with Drake may run and stride
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: for stride with him down there and getting in the way.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know, like I love that was like I
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: didn't have to follow down.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Effort, that's all it was. But okay, I love the effort.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Paul and I were joking that, like it's gone.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: For I don't care about effort.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I care about effort. I just I'm not
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: going to get lost in that play. Like that play
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: was Tarvi on Henderson. He's a special test was special.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I just love you did not talking about sort of
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: the reaction outside.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I just love mouth.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: I agree with everything you said. Yeah that was effort.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Now, Paul and I were joking that, like the offense
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: is kind of completely flip flop. Now it's like it
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: used to be the last couple of years all short,
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: like you we got to execute twelve play drives.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Now it's like one two play drives.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Like they're all explosive and when they don't get their explosives,
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: now they fall.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Apart all of a sudden. It's like you can find
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: a happy middle. What I wouldn't do for a thirteen
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: player sixty four yard driving. To be able to.
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: Reverse the field like that in the NFL is impressive,
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: Like you're not supposed to be able to do that
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: at this level. That's like a college thing to be
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: able to do that.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: But that was special.
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: I didn't realize this because we're not we're not betting
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: folks in this department. But he's the favorite for Offensive
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: Rookie of the Year at the moment. Yeah, and you
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: know it's a little bit of a down year for
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: offensive players, but in general they right now to have
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: him as the Him and Nibuka and Ted are like
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: the three front runners.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: And Abuka is kind of tailed off, whereas Henderson.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: Is really like eleven hundred yards.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: All right, I see you on the phones. I see
• 56:29
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• 56:31
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• 56:34
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  Speaker 5: What nicll, I knew you'd be here.
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  Speaker 13: No, let me just apologize to Nicole and everybody else.
• 58:44
  Speaker 13: I'm sure I was boring as hell yesterday, and when
• 58:47
  Speaker 13: you guys heard that the open locker room, the locker
• 58:49
  Speaker 13: room was open. I don't blame you for one to
• 58:52
  Speaker 13: take off. And I know you guys got a tough
• 58:54
  Speaker 13: job to do and it's hard to get those guys.
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  Speaker 5: So I apologize for but I knew you'd be here today,
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  Speaker 5: So go ahead, Karen, I'm great. How are you thank
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  Speaker 5: you for asking.
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  Speaker 9: The defense allowed touchdowns on five straight, what do you
• 59:17
  Speaker 9: have to do to get that us back on track.
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  Speaker 13: Well, it's not just that unit. I think the one
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  Speaker 13: thing that we've done in victory has been to play
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  Speaker 13: very complimentary. And I would say that to give the
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  Speaker 13: third ranked offense the field position that they did.
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  Speaker 5: Is tough. It is tough.
• 59:39
  Speaker 13: And again we have to play better defensively to play
• 59:43
  Speaker 13: much better, play much better in all three phases to
• 59:46
  Speaker 13: beat good football teams or beat anybody.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: So again, we talked about getting the drive stop.
• 59:53
  Speaker 13: We talked about finding ways to create some turnovers and
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  Speaker 13: continue to hunt for turnovers and hammer and tip and
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 13: you know, try to have to knock it away from
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 13: somebody and you know, and then just figure out what
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 13: we can do, you know when they when they get
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 13: down there to to get the drive stop. There's too
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 13: many touchdowns on third down to where we had some
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 13: positive plays and had everybody in tune and playing well
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  Speaker 13: and getting to stop and then you know, giving up
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  Speaker 13: a touchdown on.
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  Speaker 5: On third down.
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  Speaker 13: So that's a that's a long answer to say that
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  Speaker 13: I'd said we were disappointed, but not discouraged.
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  Speaker 5: And there's a lot of.
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  Speaker 13: Good snaps of defense, but you know, not enough, and
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 13: good snaps offense and not enough, and some good snaps
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  Speaker 13: of special teams, but not enough. And give them a
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  Speaker 13: lot of credit. You know, we knew that they weren't
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  Speaker 13: going to go away, and uh, you know, we weren't
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 13: able to ultimately, you do enough there at the end
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  Speaker 13: of the game, they.
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  Speaker 14: Had a big advantage in terms of time of possession.
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  Speaker 2: Show did you feel like the defense was fatigued at all?
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  Speaker 5: Again?
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  Speaker 13: That was I mean, you just don't want to be
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  Speaker 13: out there that long against them and against a big
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  Speaker 13: offensive line, and that can kind of lean on you
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 13: and wear on you. And you know, so again that's
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  Speaker 13: the complementary phase that we talked about. You know, that's
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  Speaker 13: the best defense against the good offenses, being able to
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  Speaker 13: possess the football. And you know, we didn't do that.
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  Speaker 13: We didn't do that in the second half. We didn't
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  Speaker 13: put drives together, we didn't convert when we needed to.
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  Speaker 14: Mike, we really bring up special teams unless it's really
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 14: good or probably really bad. The returns, even when you
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 14: were doing well, the returns were there, Buffalo. Was it
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 14: a structural in looking at the plays? Did Buffalo do something.
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  Speaker 13: Oh, there was a new scheme then on the first one,
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  Speaker 13: and then after that, I thought we did a nice
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  Speaker 13: job against the double team over there on the sideline.
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  Speaker 13: After the first one, I thought Anthony adjusted really well
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  Speaker 13: to that and made it cut back and we tackled it.
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  Speaker 13: And then we you know, then there's like a fit
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 13: here and a fit there. And if they you know,
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  Speaker 13: this is not an indictment on the officiating.
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  Speaker 5: I know what this is.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 13: And if they're going to grab you, and they grab
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  Speaker 13: you like this and you're we stand there head to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 13: head and nose and nose with them, that that's not holding.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: It's not holding in this league. And I don't want
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: it to be.
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  Speaker 13: And so you have to do enough to cause restriction
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 13: at the point of attack so that they see that
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  Speaker 13: and it gives them a reason to consider throwing a flag.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 13: So we have to understand that and we have to
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 13: be able to shed and we have to be able
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 13: to you know, create restriction at the point of attack.
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  Speaker 5: And we didn't do.
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  Speaker 13: That, and then so that they they they blocked us,
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  Speaker 13: and we were content with that.
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  Speaker 5: Too many times.
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  Speaker 1: Laudra had the penalty.
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  Speaker 5: That's a bad decision. What's the message to the team
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: when things that does bad decision.
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  Speaker 13: That's what I told them in the moment. That's what
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 13: I tell him again at twelve thirty. There's nothing else.
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  Speaker 13: It's what it is. He made a good play, good
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 13: positive play, like they did anything wrong. Hit him at
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 13: the sideline and stood there and you know, we made
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  Speaker 13: a bad decision.
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  Speaker 15: Looked like there was a wrinkle where they had an
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 15: offensive lineman when you're blocking on one.
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  Speaker 1: Of the kick returns. Was that a wrinkle you were expecting?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: And that changer approach at all when you have.
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  Speaker 13: A big man in the game like that, Well that's
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 13: you know, made a copycat from earlier in the season.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 13: They hadn't shown that, but we have to be prepared
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 13: for things that show up on tape and you know,
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  Speaker 13: being able to adjust. And you know again that that's
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 13: been a strength of ours on the kickoff coverage, and
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 13: that was a strength of theirs coming in. We knew
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 13: that that was going to be a challenge at ninety
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 13: eight year touchdown against the Texans a few weeks ago,
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  Speaker 13: and you know.
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  Speaker 5: We weren't good enough. And again in that matchup, I want.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Them expected was what happened with Robert in the pre
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: roll up this Blane or was that sort of the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: plan just known.
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  Speaker 13: When well, I mean, I just think it was just
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 13: to see what we can get and she you know,
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  Speaker 13: whether he was going to be able to do it
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 13: or it was going to be in an emergency role
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 13: and there's not a lot of step there outside of him,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 13: and you know, could have had a few guys up,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 13: but didn't think that that was really going to make
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 13: an impact on the game day roster. It felt like, yeah,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 13: whether it's the sixth out side linebacker or the sixth
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 13: receiver or the forced tight end or whatever it may
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 13: have been. I just didn't feel like that that was
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 13: going to make that much.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: Of a difference or a difference at all with Milton.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Obviously, you guys have rotation of players.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 13: Did thought you pinched Corey repeated league?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 14: But there's more of a burden fall or do you
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 14: expect more from Christian Parmover in terms of his playing ability?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 13: And yeah, we expect that in this league. We've said
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 13: this that your best players have to play good for
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 13: you to win, and we consider him one of our
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 13: better players. And just like other quarterback, we expect, you know,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 13: quarterback is gonna have to play good for us to win.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 13: Whoever we consider to be our best players, they have
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 13: to play good in this league.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: That's what this thing comes down to.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 13: So we'll we'll continue to find ways to to make
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 13: production and get production and get stops and show everybody
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 13: the good ones and the things that we need to
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 13: improve on.
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  Speaker 16: I was just.
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  Speaker 1: Curious with the penalties.
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  Speaker 17: We planned it.
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  Speaker 5: Actually I hate it. I just was like, like, those
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: are the same hats with these.
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  Speaker 10: Spoke about the penalties this morning radio.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just curious.
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  Speaker 6: It's it did seem like some of the players also
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: didn't agree with some of the calls or what's kind
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  Speaker 6: of your message to keep.
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  Speaker 5: Their head and being yeah, there's nothing that we can do.
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  Speaker 13: They see what they see, they call it the best
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  Speaker 13: that they can.
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  Speaker 5: I'm confident in that.
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  Speaker 13: We have to know what it is that they're looking
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 13: for to call penalties. They have mechanics that they're looking for,
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  Speaker 13: and we have to understand that and we have to
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 13: play to that that no more, no less. And yeah,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 13: the officiating or the penalties weren't the reason.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: That were lost.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, you guys have talked about having a coordinated rush.
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  Speaker 2: Can you give us any insight as to what happened
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  Speaker 2: with the rush on the touchdown pass to time.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, it wasn't coordinated. It wasn't coordinated, and it was
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 13: not executed properly. Coverage wasn't executed properly. And unfortunately, when
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 13: you do that against a good player, you know, they
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 13: make you pay. Any mistakes that you make get magnified
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 13: against an excellent quarterback.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: Two minute drive at the.
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  Speaker 12: End of the first half. And he thought to be
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 12: more aggressive there or was the how just seating up
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  Speaker 12: the clock?
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  Speaker 13: Well, I mean we were trying to be aggressive, you know,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 13: we were. We were trying and I don't think that
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  Speaker 13: it and we wanted to get going there and make
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  Speaker 13: sure that you get the first first down and then
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 13: you kind of get rolling. And then the decision, you know,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 13: maybe had twenty three seconds they you know, I figured
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 13: they were going to reverse that. Wanted to keep the
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 13: time out in case of an emergency. We were already
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 13: in field goal range. I figured that we could use
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 13: the timeout in case something happens, you get a ten
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 13: second runoff, all those things. I think it's important that
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 13: you keep that time out when you can. Went with
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 13: that decision. I thought it was six seconds and one
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 13: time out. I thought that was very well executed for
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 13: Remondra to break free there. I thought about taking a
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 13: shot and again, and you just is it six point
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 13: one on the clock or is it six point nine?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 13: I would hate to look up there and have a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 13: go ball from the thirty yard line and look up
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 13: and have it be zero and not one, and then
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 13: look like an idiot. So if it was six point nine,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 13: I would have taken a shot. If it was six
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 13: point one, I probably would have done what we did,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 13: if that makes any sense. And you.
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  Speaker 1: And now great moments in.
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  Speaker 2: History, Paul, I have something to take up with you though.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: You You just came out with your all time numberless
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: for the Patriots, and I think it's all in fun.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: I know that. But you've got the number one, and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: you've got Cam Newton as the person who wore it best,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: and like he hasn't already, how can you already want
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: it best?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, put Tony anybody else wearing it, but he
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: he's already won it. Best silverman shot of him wearing
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: the number one, add anybody else.
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  Speaker 2: There should have been a rule that you have to
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: have appeared in at least one game to be able
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: to be on your list.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have any sense of humor at all, freds No.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just come on, come on, come on,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: what about Tony Frankly, maybe Denis Stubberfield should be in
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: there somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: You know, my favorite one was forty three? He was
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: ninety nine?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Was he ninety two?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's another great moment from all right
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: back here and Patriot's Unfiltered A five five Pats five
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com is
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: the email address. We've got some people that have been
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: hanging on for the better part of it more than
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: an hour.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, that was therapeutic. No, no, no, we had
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: you know, there was a lot to chew on.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: I had to talk. So let's start with Herb and DC.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: What's up, Herb? And thanks for your patients? As no
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: Socks would say, Okay.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 17: I feel a little better now, to be honest with you, right,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 17: I think the thing is right has to catch a
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 17: lot of flags, and I feel like it was just
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 17: an outline performance.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 18: Granted, it's not a deal to give up thirty five.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 17: Points in a game, but.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 18: Ultimately I think that the job description of a number
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 18: three pick talking about Drake May is he has to
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 18: be able to come some of those things right. If
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 18: your left tackle is out, what's the lating is out,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 18: the defense having.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: A bad day.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 18: Ultimately, I think he is part of the job script
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 18: to be able to be able to do it.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: I think your head coach agrees with you, right, But.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 18: Having said that, I want to reiterate my personal confidence
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 18: in him, saying that he will do this right.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 17: That will come another time, whether it's over the next
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 17: three four games and in the.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 18: Postseason where he has to deliver. And I'll just because
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 18: to me, he's on a mental midget, right, He's I'm
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 18: basically up bringing everything like I'm apprecive you fine, Yeah.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Well that we're all counting on that, that you're right
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: and that he is the guy. So thanks Herban, thanks
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: for holding on. Let's go up to Canada, Sean's and Vancouver.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: What's up, Sean.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 19: I have to preface what I'm about to say by
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 19: just pointing out that, yes, I am disappointed that the
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 19: Patriots blew a twenty one point lead, that they lost
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 19: the Bills, and that they had these huge issues in
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 19: the red zone and run defense again, but fred I
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 19: felt the point I have to point out, like, I'm sorry,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 19: but the window for the Bills is not close. I
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 19: was speaking with someone who has no horse in this race,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 19: and they said, what a great game goodness was. It
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 19: was just a fabulous game to watch on NFL. And
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 19: I think, you know, maybe for the next ten years
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 19: this will be the case A You're going to see
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 19: trick Me and Josh Allen games as NFL must watch TV.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 19: These could be the two dominant teams in the AFC.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 19: And now in terms of where we're going, I think
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 19: the Bills are going to be the fifth seed and
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 19: they're going to have to event you know, they'll probably
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 19: win the game and then land up going to Denver
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 19: and the Patriots will probably be the two seed and
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 19: we'll have to face Houston at home in the playoffs. Hopefully,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 19: you know, Patriots will prevail, but I don't know. Also, Paul,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 19: I want to point out, you know you were talking
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 19: before last week about how you get things wrong. I
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 19: want to point out how you get things right. Remember,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 19: prior to twenty twenty two's draft, how you put it
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 19: pointed out how shook. Here is your your long shot
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 19: for the draft, like I think he went in the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 19: fifth round or something like that, and that was your guy,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 19: so you got to get props for that. I'll let
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 19: you go and comment on that, all right.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: Thanks Sean.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Thanks Sean.
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  Speaker 6: As as much as I agree with some of the
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: first call said, it did score thirty one points, and
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: if you're gonna score thirty one points.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: Should be enough to win.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: You should be enough to win.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 6: As bat he did not play well in the second half,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: and I understand the point that you have to keep playing,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 6: you know, scoring, and sometimes you're gonna have to win
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: a game thirty eight thirty five against Josh Allen, But
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 6: I would you know, this one's just as much on
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: the defense and the special teams as is Day.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a total system breakdown, all three phases.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Let him down. Alex in Connecticut, what's up, Alex?
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  Speaker 20: Hey, guys, big fan of the show. Thank you, I'm listener.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 20: I just wanted to say that I didn't want to lose,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 20: but I think that the Patriots needed a loss before
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 20: the season ended. The regular season, I thought it was
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 20: going to be against Baltimore, But to be honest, now
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 20: I think we're going to come in and take care
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 20: of them. I think the defense steps up and maybe
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 20: holds him to seventeen twenty one points while the offense
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 20: focuses on running the ball. I think we need to
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 20: get that. And because Drake seems like he's been some
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 20: sort of I don't even know the word for it,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 20: but I do think that he throws a deep touchdown
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 20: because we didn't have much of that last game. I
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 20: think the loss couldn't have come at a better time
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 20: with three games to go, and that the team needed
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 20: to really feel that would that be instead? I'm scared
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 20: about the number one seed and I'll take it off there.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 20: Thanks guys.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, I mean longot, we're in the back seed of
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: the number one seed. We need a coapse. Yeah, we
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: need Denver to lose a couple of games here.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: And now they get and as usual Fred, where are
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: those games going to be taking place in Denver? Two
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: of them?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: And now they get Kansas City without my homes.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Right, so it's the one road game.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I want to.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: See it ain't looking good.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: I'm more I just want to win the AFC East.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: That's my big thing.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Now, Yeah me too, me too, But I just wonder
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: like what are they going to benefit from what they learned?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: You know, like what is the upshot of losing this game?
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: Like I and I get what he's saying, Like, you know,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: and I said earlier, you can it's a lot easier
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: to build off of things, I think when the team
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: loses and you have their attention. But it hasn't really
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: changed how I view the team though, you know, and
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they, oh, because they lost this game,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: now they're going to win a playoff game, Like I
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: still kind of see it the same way.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, like the Pittsburgh game, they turned the
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: ball over a bunch and they did lose, win or
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: learn from that loss in that sense, but that was
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: a tangible thing of like you turned it over five
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 6: times and that's why you lost. I will say defensively,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: I said earlier, like you need to be more more
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: buttoned up than that in these big games. And I
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: wonder if this is kind of a wake up call
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: to have the focus be a little bit more like
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: when you're playing the offenses that they had been playing,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: you don't necessarily need to be on your p's and
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: q's like you do against Buffalo and Baltimore and the
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 6: teams you're going to play in the playoffs, So hopefully
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: they look at it and say, like, you know, we can't.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: We can't have all these breakdowns, mental breakdowns. It's one
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: thing to get beat, it's another thing to kind of
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: hand them things right.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: And then it shines on your lack of talent too.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think when a defense plays really well together,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: you can cover up.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Some of those things.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: But when you don't have you know, your best players
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: playing the best, or they're not in there, and you know,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: and then you realize, like the linebackers look a lot
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: like the linebackers did last year, where it's tough for
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: them to make plays and to anticipate to get off
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: of blocks, and you know, it's just that the performance
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: remind me a lot of last year's excuse me defense,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: you know, watching the tail plate, watching them, you know,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: just behind the play, behind the play, you know it's
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: already James Cook's already going. And another point was I
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: think they missed like ten tackles too. I mean, that's
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: a that's a problem from earlier in the season that
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: it kind of rectified itself, and you know, they that
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: I think that's another symptom of.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Overall But that's another example. What Evan's talking about is
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: when you've played against teams that aren't really capable.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: Of taking advantage of bad football, making.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: You miss attack. There you go, yep, you know what
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like you're playing again. You know, James Cook,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: he's a little bit better than you know, uh, Travis
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Tracy or whatever, what's Tracy's name, Tyrone, you know he's
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: a better player.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: I know it's Tracy. I think. You know, Evan Singletary,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: you know, James Cook replaced Devin Singletary. That was a
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: huge upgrade, you know for Buffalo. You know that that's
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: the offenses they have been playing. Those guys aren't really
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: capable of making your sort of weaknesses exposed.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: Whether there was no real bad football to take advantage
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: of with the Bills, you know, that's and that's it's
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: a great baseline when you're trying to play a fourth
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: play schedule and win some games and there's going to
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: be bad football.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: But but there was, you know, but you know, like
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: it was terrible football from the Buffalo perspective. On that
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: sixty five yard touchdown. You can go back and watch
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: aj Fanessa Like I've never played defensive line in my life,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: and I can tell you that he broke every rule
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: of defensive line play backside defensive end, like gives ground.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: It goes like three yards upfield, Like I don't know
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: where you were going, but all you need to do
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: is stay where you are and make sure that that
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: guy can't cut back. He should have cut back right
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: into him. But did you see that the replayer, This
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: is what I'm talking about, He like slams down into
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: the pile, gives Henderson no resistance whatsoever. Like that's bad football.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: In Trevion Henderson took advantage of it.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: It was almost like a kickoff like the old way
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 6: because like you, like you always when you talk about kickoff,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: you don't want guys in the same lane.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: That's right in your lane. And that's his job is
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: being the backside guy. Don't let the guy come back. Yeah,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: cut back.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: Doug Hampshire wants to know. Do you think no splane
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: wearing the green dot led to the disjointed defensive scheme.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: It could have been part of help, you know.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: I mean he's he's the key guy in the middle,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: and I mean another thing that you know, it was
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: more sunshine and rainbows.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: But it's just you know, his presence.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: He's a fiery guy, like you know, it's is there
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: a speech in him of all right, we need one
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: stop here and maybe they respond.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, I I just think in a game like this,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: missing him did not did not help matters at all.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Cody writes in Bill's fans have really been backing McDermott
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: after the Mike vrabel blame me the ref's narrative. While
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: I feel Mike's comments have taken wildly out of context,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Bill's fans backing McDermott and saying he would never blame
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: the ref is great. I actually think the Bills should
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: give him a lifetime coaching contract due to those facts.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: Uh just squally quickly on this plain thing that I have.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: I do want to say something about that. Uh it
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: was playine Like a lot of Paul shows are kind
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: of like we're not giving them splaine.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: Like you know that's Fred.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: You know that he's he's out, he's not a good
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: enough player. But when every run is right up the
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: gut where you say that they didn't miss Spalaine is
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: I think silly, but like, especially with the way that
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: they ran the football on them, like that would literally
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: be right at Robert Splaine. And to think that he's
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: not a little bit more equipped to stop that, of
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: course than Jack Gibbons or Christian Ellis, I think is
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 6: just being short sighted a little bit.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: The Bills react fans reaction to Mike Rabel's comments about
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: the refs. So I don't care about the fans. I
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: say this all the time.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I don't.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't care about the fans.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: I like you, you be fan however you want to man.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 6: The Bills media has taken more exception to it than
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 6: the fans, and it's like, why why are you care?
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: Like they don't think our media would do this.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: It's gonna say, the Patriots media is the one who's
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: bringing up the officiating. That's how do you think?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Listen. I love Mike Rabel and I know where he
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: was coming from. I agree with him, but he opened
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: him up for this. He opened himself up.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: For sure, and whatever. He's a big guy, he can
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: handle it.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: But I just I'm surprised about how much of a
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 6: story this has been turned into.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: It this is the soap opa.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: This is the this is the this is why football
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: is great. You're playing the weekend and during the week
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: it's all this crap.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 6: Well, I bet that that is part of what I'm
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 6: talking about. Like people that cover the bills on their beat. Yeah,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: I don't know, Like.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: This, this is the drama. This is the soap op.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: I have zero time for that.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: You know, like, if you're the media guy, you're supposed
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: to be covering the game, like not like that the
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: official way a long time. But I know when it's
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: can I be like disappointed? Can I be disappointed by that?
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Like that, no one cares about actually covering anymore. Just
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: the crying over Oh he's blaming the riffs, like just
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: to me, Frere. He comes in and sits right where
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Mike is right now, and they're they're bombarding him with
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: questions about the officiating, Like that's the best you can
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: come up with. You blew a twenty one point leading
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: You're asking why didn't get caugh holding, But like that
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: was the best the media could come up with for questions. Again,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: I separate EI in your shows. The friends were asked
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: on the press conference yesterday too.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: Well, because they were asked yesterday as a follow up
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 6: to what he said on the radio.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Fair that's fair. I think they would have been asked anyway.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: I just look at the the the radio side of
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: it is a little different than like the reporter beat
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 6: reporter side of it.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's all the same. Now, it's just all
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: raw raw, rossis boom.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 5: But do you.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: Understand what I'm saying.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 6: It's a different You got wrong, It's a different it's
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: a different cap like, it's a different type of media.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: It should be right. On the other hand, just think
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: the officials are incompetent in every game. I just don't
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: think they favor your team with the other team.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 6: But that's one thing to say that, which is true,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: But to then like the response to the Rabel stuff
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 6: from Buffalo's.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Media, has the response from the.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: Get attacked Now, it's like I did with the Broncos.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 6: But this is just like you play that role, you're
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 6: the band. It's just a little weird, bizarre, like we
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 6: spent all day crying about it, and it's just like.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: I don't like that. I think if Buffalo is crying
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: about Rabel's reaction, that's weak. I agree with Evan on that,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: but like the whole thing, like you, I.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Listen. I remember in the win game when we beat them,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know what was it, six nothing or whatever
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: the score was, and everybody was all over McDermott and
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: his reaction after the game.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it wasn't about the officials.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, but he just just his reaction, you know.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: The call that And I know that, Fred, you didn't
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: love the Carlton Davis PI where he tugged the shirt.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Didn't really feel like there was much of a restriction.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: I agree with Fred. I thought it was a little
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: tiki tag. I've been told and I didn't really see
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: this live. People have told me that the flag came
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: out so late because the guy was trying to get
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: the flag out and had a hard time. That's why
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: the flag came out as late as it. Because I
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: was really bothered by the timing as well. You know,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: I was, you know, I don't know, you guys know,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: I don't usually I was like, that's ridiculous and I
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: don't usually do that. Wait what So I didn't like
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: that call. And I have no problem with coaching, whether
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: it's McDermott or very abel, I have no problem. You
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: didn't like that call. You you're a big boy, you
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: can tell me you didn't like it. I don't like
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh complaining about the Isaiah Likely thing the week prior that.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: It's very specific. What I didn't like what Mike did
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: here with Ei was the Bills leave the league in
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: holding calls and you think they would get at least
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: one holding call during the course of the game. Well, what,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: what specifically are you talking about, Mike? Was there, like,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: did Osiris Torrents tackle Corey Durden on the eleven yard
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: touchdown run and you think they should have been holding?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Then say it? There they two holding calls a game.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: They got one, he said, they didn't get any. They did,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: and by the way, it was it was a rather
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: important one that took away a go ahead touchdown. It
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: was they just they just happened to score a touchdown
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: on the next play, so you forget it. But they
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: did get called for holding, and it was an important
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: one and it was a legit call.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: Right, There were a couple, But there's a couple every
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 6: single week in the trenches where you say this could
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: have been a hold.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: You know, what my point is, like, hey, this play
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: right here, they were holding. They held Christian Barmore in
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: this play. They should have called holding on this as
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: as opposed to.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: Seem sure he has sent that to the league?
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: Has I used Barbore because he has been outspoken. He
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: he actually talks to Evan a lot about it. But bro,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: don't tell them I'm getting held. I'm getting like if
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: John Harbar is saying specifically, like this play right here,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: we we think that they missed one here, as opposed
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: to just sort of the generic Well.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: He wants to know, doesn't want to question a specific
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: call because they'll get fined.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: He maybe maybe, but if you're going to get fined,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: you're criticizing the officials, that's what you're going to get
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: fined for. So like I.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: Just just thought it was, you know, we couldn't figure
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: it out, Like how isn't that right?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Right? I just don't think it's all that out of
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: the ordinary for a team that averages two holds a
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: game to get called for one.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: I just don't understand.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: Think it's not like they were like why are you
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: why that's baby talking?
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: Like why you.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: Personally offended that? Verbel said that like I just baby talk.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Sorry, if the Buffalo media has take has taken that
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: as a crusade, that's baby.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: I just created controversy. It's it's ratings and clicks. That's
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: all it is.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: This isn't something which and this is unfortunately, that's what
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: it's deteriorated to.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: I just hope they hear the voices that say Josh
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: Allen's awesome and he did Josh Allen things, and I
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: have a lot of respect for him as a player.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: And the Patriots have to be better to slow down too.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: But they're really listening to New England than they're not
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: getting a lot of bad They get it here on
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: this show, but they don't get it a lot when
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: they listen to the media around here.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: Russell and Florida speaking of the refs, just now turning in,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: What did you guys think of the PI and Marcus
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: Jones on the deep Ball? Seems like Jones clearly picked it.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, but might have gotten there a
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: bit early. And the call to give Buffalo the reception
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: I think was ridiculous. Also, Friendz prayers were finally answered
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: with the Mahomes injury. The Wannabe Dynasty falls anyway on
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: that play. I wasn't up in arms about that play.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: And here's the way I saw it.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: The ball.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: No one possessed the ball until it was on the ground.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: And at that point it's like fifty to fifty. You
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: go with the offense on those calls. Now, forget about
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: the flag, Like I'm not even talking about the.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: Flag, Simontan his catch time.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: Catch goes to the offense. I don't think either player
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: had the ball while they were falling down. I think
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: it was being negotiated at that point with Fred.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: I think that play was properly officiated. It's it's a
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: tough call. Yeah, I thought he got there early. I
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: thought he interfered, and I thought Shakir had the ball,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: and then Jones got it when they were on the ground. Yeah,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: that's how we ended up with it. I generally agree.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: I just I still when I went back and watched it,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: it looked closer than I realized.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Very close in the ball too. Like I wouldn't say
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: Shakir caught it, like I guess to your point, like
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: either one they both they both both had it. He
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: took possession of it on the ground like he was
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: fitty when Jones got the ball on the ground. I
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: agree with Fred on the day, Yeah, no, I I
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: That's a tough one. Now, whether or not it was
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: p I, I don't know, but at the end of
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: the day, they called it a catch, so it doesn't
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: matter whether it was.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: I just like, you know, I just like the way
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: Marcus Jones plays. Oh yeah, I just he's not He's
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: not going to give you a thing.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: That that play drove was from straight in to watch
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: because they knew it was coming, Like they knew they
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: were going to get that exact play call, and they
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: had a check for it. They had it all like
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 6: all perfectly covered, and Alan just throws a freaking dime
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 6: to Shakir and it's like this like simultaneous catch thing
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: and was it wasn't it?
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I go, Shakir did not play
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: that well by the way. He should have put his
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: foot down and jump back into Marcus Jones. And then
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: it's clear and obvious passing effects because Jones was was
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: out of position on the play and not really looking
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: at the time, and they kind of both drifted and
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: I think Shakiro was you know, I give Shakill some
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: credit because instead of you know, being a baby and
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: looking for a call, he was trying to make a
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: play on the ball and trying to catch it. But
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: I think he would have gotten both had he just
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: fought back through the contact.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: Those are the ones, though, that drive you nuts.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 6: Because it's like, you you practiced this all week that
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 6: they're in this situation, they're going to call him mesh,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 6: and you're this is what you're going to get. This
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: is how we're going to cover it. And they were
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 6: right on it and they just made they made the play.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Norman Daytona Beach writes in about the Buffalo media,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: what else would you expect from a four time Super
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: Bowl loser?
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 6: You're here, I'm I'm an ally of Bill's Mafia too,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 6: So I know I know that this is going to
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 6: come off as a bad thing for me to say no,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 6: But I have friends in the mafia and and uh
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 6: and and I like them for the most part.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: I just this particular one.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 6: I was like, this is really like this has really
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 6: gotten under your skin that he said that, Like.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: I saw a stupid internet thing that made me just
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: summed up the Internet and social media for me. It
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: was like a Bill's fan going to Patriots fans with
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: like an AI of Josh Allen holding a Super Bowl
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: trophy and it's like, Drake may will never know what
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: this is like what.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: Like Josh Allen doesn't know what it's like? Like, what
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: are you doing? That's what we've lost The play Jackie
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: and Abba about cold weather clothing and Brady, uh, he said.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Brady once said that his freshman roommate at Michigan taught
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: him all about how to dress for the cold there.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: He said, there is no such thing as bad weather
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: in Michigan. There is only bad clothing. Jacques Cousteau, you go,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: I know, Ellen Wisconsin said. Drake actually talked about the
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: sleeve thing on one of Paul's shows yesterday. He did
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: say he's figuring it out, but mentioned he prefers sleeveless
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: because that's how he's used to practicing. Well maybe he
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: in the cold weather he should practice differently anyway, something
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: to watch, Yeah, evolving Drake, good stuff, all right, back
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: to the phones. One eight, what's the number? Eight? Five
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: five past five hundred? There you go, that's the one.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: Paul's like, come on, the number of nunumbers are hard?
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 5: Five? Wait?
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: Two ninety eight O three nine. Yeah, the old number.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: That was the old number. You get his number, you give,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: don't it some lady in Wisconsin?
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: And I think that's the number. I think it's just
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: the eight hundred number now eight five five, Vinny, Hey
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: you hear me?
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 16: Okay, yeah, all right, Yeah, I went to the game
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 16: on us someday.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 16: It was just a victory just to get there. It was,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 16: you know, what a fun first half. You know, I
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 16: was really loving watching Mndre Stevenson get those tough yards
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 16: and Trayvon Henderson. And I guess you know, when I
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 16: think about the second half, yeah, I'm thinking it's a
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 16: little unfortunate. Defense wasn't able to hold the Bills to
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 16: a field goal once or twice, but on the offensive side,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 16: I'm just curious, And I'm sorry if you guys cover
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 16: this earn the show coming in late But and I
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 16: love Josh McDaniels, but do we have any idea of
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 16: what he might have been seeing or why he was
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 16: approaching the second half, because I feel like we should
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 16: have been running the ball more and controlling the clock
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 16: and keeping Josh Allen off the field, you know, I mean, oh,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 16: in all they put up thirty one points, and you know,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 16: we saw a lot of interest here with the defense
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 16: to give up the touchdown on the opening drive, and
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 16: this was a little bit different. And I'm just sort
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 16: of wondering if.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 20: You guys have any insight as to what.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 16: Josh McDaniels was sticking in terms of how he pushed
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 16: the second half.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he'll be asked about it.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: That's money.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, we haven't spoken to him since the game,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 6: so I'm sure that'll be a question for him tomorrow.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: I The one thing I will say, and we talked
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 6: a little bit about it off air, is like, sometimes
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 6: there's two plays called in the huddle, and the quarterback
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: checks in and out of the play based off of
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 6: the coverage or what the defense is showing him. So
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 6: it's possible that they might have had a few more
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: runs like called technically that then we're checked out of
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 6: into passes. And I'm not saying that that's anybody's fault.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 6: It's just sometimes, you know, when you get these questions,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 6: you hear coaches say that a lot. Well, you know,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 6: they were giving us this, so we checked into a
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 6: pass on you know, three or four times, and that
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 6: exkews the numbers or maybe they were you know, RPOs
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 6: in there and they converted to throws instead of runs
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 6: or vice versa. You know, there's all these certain different minutia.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 6: But it's a fair question that I'm sure he'll get
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 6: asked about.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: It is it is.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Canada. Tony's up there. Hey Tony, Hey guys.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 21: That was a hard loss to take on Sunday. But
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 21: a couple of things. Yeah, I agree. Actually, I was
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 21: surprised that when we were at the last drive there
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 21: that we didn't have at least one running play when
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 21: it was third and five and then fourth and five.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 21: But like Alex said, I guess things can change at
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 21: the line of scrimmage. I think we have to and
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 21: you guys tell me. I think we have to win
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 21: out the next three games to finish in the AFC,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 21: to win the championship for the AFC East. So that's
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 21: all I wanted to say. And listen to the rest show.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: Thanks, okay, thanks any any Thomas No, and I would
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: just say, like the last drive third and five is
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: you know, no timeouts left and you're on your own
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: twenty five yard line down four points. I don't think
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: you can afford to run ball for six yards to
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: try to get a first down. Right, that's not the
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: twenty five seconds or so that that's going to take
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: is not worth the first down?
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: Important question for Paul, says Anthony. During our win streak,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: quite a few people wrote in to say we aren't
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: playing our best and we need to be more consistent.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: Paul said that he thinks we are playing as good
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: as we can and it was hard to argue. Now
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: after Sunday's game, I have a question. They scored thirty
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: one points all on offense, no turnovers, no special teams,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: but it was very clear they didn't play their best ball,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: particularly in the second half. My question is is it
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: fair to say we didn't play our best game even
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: though we put up thirty one, which was one of
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: the higher scores in weeks.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: I would say no. I would say that I think
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: people are expecting perfection from a team that is a
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: little bit flawed. You're well ahead of schedule, like you
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: can't score. This is not to be confused with like
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: Kurt Warner's rams, like they're just going to score. They're
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: going to score every time they get the ball. They
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: scored thirty one points. That's a lot, and he's right,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: there were no defensive points in there that you know,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: No Marcus Jones return, no returns, no defensive scores. I
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: don't know what you're expecting from mac hollins in Tomario
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Douglas and Stefan di like. I don't know if you
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: can ask for much more than you got on Sunday. Now,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: they didn't finish the game. That's disappointing. We talked about
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: it the whole first hour of the show, all the
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: different things that were disappointing, but the very first thing
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: that Evan said, I would wholeheartedly agree with. You're as
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: good as the teams that you're playing against now, but
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: don't confuse that to be that you were better than
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: everybody and that you can just roll and score sixty
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: because you're that good. They played pretty well for large
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: stretches of the game, just not well enough. The other
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: team's pretty good too. Now do you realize that that's
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: three games that they played against teams with winning records
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: one and two. That's I mean, you're playing as well
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: as you can play. I don't think that they underachieved Sunday.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I this is probably a better topic
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 6: for you know, if they lose in the playoffs.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: But I think your point about this might be the ceiling.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 6: Of this roster, because they might be an offseason away
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 6: from really having the talent to hang forty one points
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 6: on the board against Buffalo in a in a big
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 6: in a big game. You know, we talk a lot
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: about the second half offense, and the numbers aren't good
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: in the second half, But is it possible that the
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: reason that they can't sustain offense into the second half
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 6: is because they just don't quite have the talent yet
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 6: to do that. But again, you know, let's see how
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 6: it goes in the playoffs. Like maybe that that does
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 6: get corrected for the playoffs. But if we go into
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 6: the offseason and they let's say, you know, they lose
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: in the playoffs, we're probably gonna say, you know, they
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 6: they just didn't.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: Quite have just real yet, just not there yet, and
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: they could win, like they could have won the game Sunday, right, Oh,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: that's why I want to slink. Like, let's just say,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: for argument's sake, that they get that run from from
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: Henderson and they go up thirty one to twenty eight,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: and then the defense holds it out, you win thirty
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: one twenty eighth, So you're suddenly good enough now, like
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: as opposed to not not. Like, if you're Buffalo, I
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: know we you know, we're very patriot centric and we
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: should be. But if you're Buffalo, you're looking at that
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: game in a little bit of a different way. You're
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: looking at it and say, Jesus tell you, if we
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: can just eliminate these big plays, we're better than them.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: We could have gotten separation from them, but we allow
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: a fifty something yard running, a sixty something yard run,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: and that allowed them to maintain their their lead. Like,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: if you're Buffalo, you're looking at we just got to
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: button it up and make sure that we don't give
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: them easy touchdowns, you know what I mean? Like they
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: didn't play well either, Yeah on defense, I mean NA
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: allowed thirty one points. Yeah.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: John writes in the Hypocrisy of the Refs need to
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: be studied the words of the Great Jim Murray, The
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: refs need to be put in jail, jailed to.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: Jail.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: The no PI call for Hollands and the PI call
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: against Marcus Jones has proof someone in Vegas made a
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: phone call. There was substantially more interruption on the Drake
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: May interception intended to Holland's than the call against Jones
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: Vus Shakir, two game changing decisions by the reps. If
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: either one went the other way, the Patris would have
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: held the lead.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 4: Well, I I would just like the Marcus Jones won.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: I didn't think it was DPI. But it was a
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 6: catch for Shakill rule to the catch, so like it's
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 6: gonna be a thirty seven yard play for Shakiir regardless
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 6: of if it's a penalty.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: Y So that one, everybody's convinced there was an interception.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: So that's where you're that's where you're wrong, YEF.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: But but but you'd have to overturn two things. Now,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: One it wasn't a penalty, and two it wasn't a
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: catch by.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not the Bills. I'm not saying never.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 6: The simultaneous catch thing happens like more frequently than.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: You think often, and it all that's the rule. It
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: just happened the previous week with Alan Rodgers.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 6: It's tie goes to the runner like it like in baseball,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 6: Like it's that's the rule. So that rule that ball
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 6: is standing as a catch for Shakira.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 4: That one's interfer.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: The Davis one is the one that I was upset about.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: So can I just say one thing too, you know,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: like with the officiating thing, which I hate officials. You
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: guys know that. So first let's go to the first
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: drive of the game for both teams. There's a thirty
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: yard pass down the sideline the Kaishan Boodie that gene seratory. Evidently,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: and you were listening to the broadcast, Fred said that
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: if this has gone to replay, it would have gotten overturned.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: There's no expedited replay for some reason on this one.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: So obviously the officials ruin the take against the Bills
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: because on the next drive, Brandon Cooks makes a catch
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: that he bobbles on the sideline and originally is called
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: the catch. Bills are getting ready to snap the ball
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: and no, no, no expedite to replay. The play has
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: been ruled incomplete. So one play has an expertite to replay,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: no no challenge necessary. Another play no expertite to replay,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: and the Bills needed to challenge didn't get a che
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: answer to it because the Patriots wisely snapped the ball.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Is that like is that an you know, hypocrisy or
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: is that just in competence? Right? John Hussey's involved, big shock.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, there was no control in the game. How
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: many times do we hear from John Hussey?
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 4: He's not a great Please.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: Reset the game clock to twenty three seconds. No, there's
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: no runoff, Like, sorry for the confusion. We got it right,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: you did, We got it right though. Oh I feel
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: much better now, John, you got it right.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: And the replay assist is kind of broken too, you
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: know what I mean?
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 6: Every week it's like, wait, are you sure that happened
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 6: to be watching that play?
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean there was a first down that
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: the Bills ran for and they called it a first
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: down in the field all of a sudden, No, no, no,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: the ball has been respotted. I expected a replay. It's
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: actually short of the line the game, So now the
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: Bill's got to run a quarterback sneak to get the
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: first down. Like, there's all kinds of things that you
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: could look at. It's possible impropriety. I don't think it's impropriety.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: I think it's incompetence.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: Max and Santa Barbara just a few thoughts. One seeing
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: Nick Daniels and Woodiams. It looks to me like they
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: have a more aggressive set of play calls. Two, Mike
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: and Company have to improve this defense, especially the secondary.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: Three.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: If Philip Rivers can come out of retirement after five years,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: is two outrageous to call Gronk and offer him five
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand or more. Let him work out for two
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: or three weeks, Maybe have him play some snaps in
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: game seventeen and have him ready for the playoffs. All
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: he can say is no. The red zone offense would
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: certainly be upgraded anyway. Let's not let the success of
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: the past spoil things. Now. We are way ahead of
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: schedule on this rebuild. Love the show since three party on.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: Gronk officially retired though, And I don't think.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: You know it's come out of retirement.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Philip Rivers retire press conference with the Chargers.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he literally had We'll.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: Get more of that, I'm sure tomorrow. But he did
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: all right. I mean he didn't light it up then
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of shot short.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't want the Clo win, but he won me
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: over just watching him play. I was like, I want
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: to see Philip Rivers.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: No, he didn't do like anything special. You know a
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: lot of little short throws. But you know, then the
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: Colts defense obviously played a really good game and kept
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: him in it. But he did all right, he did.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know what I was expecting because
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: I just I have have a take here too, like
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: have you heard a lot of this, Like what an
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: indictment on the NFL and the lack of being able
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: to develop quarterbacks? And I'm like, how many quarterbacks should
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: the Colts be expected to have? Like they're on the
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: fourth quarterback, Like they can't just take someone else's backup
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: and plug him in. Would that be a better option? Like,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: uld be a better option?
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: Riley Leonard would have played if he was healthy?
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 16: Ye?
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 4: Or Anthony Richardson for.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: That, if Anthony Richardson didn't you know, have that mishap
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: with the thing that hit him in the face, Yeah,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: he'd have been the backup quarterback. We wouldn't be talking
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: about this. But you can't just take someone else's backup
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: and play him. Where else were they to be expected
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: to get a guy off the street that would know
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: the offense and be able to play in a game.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: And at that when you're still in the playoff. To me,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: you're very much. I look at this is like an
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: embarrassment of the NFL and an indictment on their abilion.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: That's widespread. That's I guess I'm in the minority on that.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: But I don't know what else. I don't know what
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: a better option was, especially with the emergency quarterback role.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 6: Now, a lot of teams like the like the Patriots
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 6: are carrying three on the active roster because you can
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 6: make one inactive, like they have been with Tommy DeVito.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: So there actually is even fewer quarterbacks on practice squads
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 6: at the moment because a lot of teams are carrying
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 6: three on the fifty three man roster, not two in.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: Well, even if there was like a Bailey Zappi on
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: someone's practice squad, and I don't know if he's on
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: Cleveland's practice squad or acts so, but let's just say
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: for arguments sake, he was on the practice squad. Yeah,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: you can sign a guy like that off a practice
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: squad and bring him in. Is that a better option
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: a guy who? I mean, if you have a guy
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: that maybe spent some time with Shane steiken H and
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: he's on a practice squad, then I could make an
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: argument that's a better option. But unless you get give
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: me an example of that, I just don't I think
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: look at this as an embarrassment. No, I almost think
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: the opposite is true.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: I think I mean, I if you go back to
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: the end of Brady's career, that felt like there was
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: no quarterback coming out, no quarterbacks developing.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: But I feel like it's gotten better. Quarter the league
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: pretty good spot. It is always going to be hard.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: But thirty two, if you took the thirty two, how
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: many are really good? I think, how many guys are
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: we looking at in the league right now that are
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: that are reasonably good? You know Trevor Lawrence and we
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: think they stink.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 6: He's on the practice squad in Cleveland, by Zappi, because
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 6: they have like seventeen quarterbacks, right, so.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: If he but if he was on, if he had
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: some experience with stich and you can make an argument
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: for that something like that, But like, what would you
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: rather have if you were a cult span Philip Rivers
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: Bailey Zappi, Yeah, what's the difference.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: You think Drew's got a few in them if they
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: needed to.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: They tried to get him a couple of Jacksonville. This
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: is a while ago now and he was already He's like.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, jerem I says I saw that.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: Andrew Callahan said that the Patriots hardly ran any play action,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: which seems really surprising considering that we had such success
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: running the ball in the first half. Is there any
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: reason why we moved away from it, especially with Drake
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: struggling throughout the game?
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 6: They ran three play action dropacks, which is low. But
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 6: when you play you know, certain defenses, play action works
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 6: better against. Normally, when you play zone defenses, you know,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 6: you like to run play action because those players are
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 6: they dropping into coverage or are they coming up to
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 6: stop the run. But when you play you know, a
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 6: team that plays a lot of man to man coverage,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 6: it's not it doesn't have that same like effect on
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 6: the defense because it's just I have this guy, you know,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 6: and there's less run responsibilities for those players. So there
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 6: was probably something like that going on with Buffalo as
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 6: to what they were seeing from what they were doing
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 6: that they didn't feel like play action was going to work.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 6: I do also kind of feel like people just like
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 6: use play action as like, well, if nothing's working, just
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 6: run play act like it's just like, you know, kind.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: Of whatever their code, whatever they did, and it doesn't work.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: It was wrong and that and I get it. That's
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: what comes. That's part of the terror, you know. Josh
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: mcden is a big boy. That's part of the offensive
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: coordinated territory.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 6: But they were getting a decent amount of man coverage, uh,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 6: you know from Buffalo. And there's a dissertation somewhere on
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 6: the Internet of Bill Belichick talking about why you don't
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 6: call play action as often against man coverage.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 4: That's who I learned it from.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: So I'll find it.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: Something else is gonna bite on the running back other
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 3: than the guy who's got them right, Like right, I
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: mean the safeties, aren't you know.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: No one's paying attention, right, Chris writes, Uh, sends me
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: a picture that's going around and read it that. He says,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: Uh proves that Marcus Jones caught the ball. I'm looking
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: at the picture and all that.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: I don't care didn't.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: That's all it proved.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: They proves that both guys have the hands on the ball.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: Well, Shakira looks like he has his hands on Marcus Jones,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: but to me, it's still no either one of them
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: has possession.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 6: I think our fan base is smart enough to not
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 6: fall into screenshot.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: I love screenshots, but it looks like that's the ball.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: That's his elbow. But no, it's in the part. It's
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: somewhere in there.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: But who has it exactly?
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: That's my point.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: I think both of them do. I think Marcus Jones
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: had his hands on the ball. I'm not saying Jones
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: didn't have the ball, but you guys are shot. If
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: it's dual possession, it goes to the screen.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: Can't you can ever do screenshots that's not It doesn't My.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: Favorite screenshots on holds, those are my favorites. Fred used
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: to send those to me. All the divester he's wide open,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: like with no context. Quarterbacks on the on the right
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: sideline and the receivers all by himself on the left
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: side line. Throw it to him.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: He's opiate, but I like Reddit me too. Let's go
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: to Charles in North Carolina. What's up, Charles?
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 22: It was one on folks, first time caller, a long
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 22: time listener.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: Oh thank you, so I appreciate you appreciate it for me.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 22: Quick question. I've been on hold for a couple of minutes.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 22: I kind of forgot Okay, Yeah, I know we run
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 22: a buff fight kind of offense and Drake may find
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 22: is the open guy and I'm happy with definitely got
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 22: a lot of players on the team, especially in the
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 22: wide receiver room. But what do you guys think about
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 22: maybe trying to get stuff on Digs a little more involved,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 22: not trying to force feed him, but you know, maybe
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 22: say he's our best playmaker, see if he can start
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 22: making some more plays for us. And another question is
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 22: how kind of concerned are you guys with Baltimore's run
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 22: game with Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson, with Milton Williams
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 22: being out. I know, Congress Tonkin came back and he
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 22: kind of helped, but I feel like Milton williams presence
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 22: in the middle is still being missed. And then we
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 22: know got Dvaan a Chan and Breese Hall coming up
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 22: in the last three weeks. So how do you guys
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 22: feel about our ability to still be able to stop
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 22: the run coming up here in the next few weeks.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm worried about that, Charles. I mean, you know,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: Conda came back, but it didn't look good.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: Major concern.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it didn't look specially this week Yeah.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 6: So Baltimore has been had other issues on their roster.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 6: Their run game is as good as always.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: I've always been under the belief that any NFL team,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: if they really sell out, can stop the run to
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: a degree if they but what do you giving up?
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: What are you sacrificing goal line? And can you give
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: that up? Can you can you overcome what you're sacrificing
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: by selling out against the run?
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 6: There was definitely some times in this game where they
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 6: were kind of running like four or even just like
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 6: lighter five man fronts where I thought to myself, like,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 6: is this really that Buffalo team where like you're so
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 6: afraid of Alan in the passing game that you know
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 6: you're trying to stop the run out of light boxes
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 6: or you're trying you're running four man fronts instead of
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 6: putting more guys on the line of scrimmage. I just
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 6: don't know if that is where Buffalo is at, Like
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 6: Buffalo right now, their best player besides Allen is James
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 6: Cook and it's not particularly close.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I don't know.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 6: If you play them a third time, you do wonder if, like,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 6: can you get a little bit bigger on the line
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 6: of scrimmage. Can you put some more beef on the
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 6: line and maybe try to stop the run a little
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 6: bit more that way. But every time you talk to players,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 6: not you know, nerds like me that and you ask
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 6: them about stopping the run, the first thing that they
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 6: say is that it's a mentality. It's a want to,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 6: it's a mentality. It's not They don't talk x's and o's,
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 6: they don't talk technique. Even they talk about you need
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 6: to go into the game and say not today, like
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 6: we're not gonna get run on. And that's what the
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 6: Patriots are gonna have to do on Sunday night because
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 6: there Jimmy's and Joe's ain't gonna get any better.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: Like it's gonna be this group.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: Right Steven and Fort drum My wife and I are
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: active duty Army. Thank you for your service. And we
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: met in college at Norwich, but she and her family
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: are from Buffalo and our huge Bills fans. We've been
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: together for six years now and this time of year
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: has always been contentious, as my in laws described me
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: as insufferable to the extended family. We recently bought a
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: house and I have to say the worst part about
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: Sunday's loss isn't the twenty one point blown lead, but
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: the fact that I can't bitch about it in my
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: own house all jokes aside by being constantly behind enemy lines.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: I can confidently report that the Bills fans are scared
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: of the Patriots. For Buffalo, it's super Bowl or bust
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: this year. Anything less is a complete choke and a
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: humiliation for New England. At worst, we are the perfect
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: Buffalo spoiler team, and at best we win a seventh ring.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I'd be feeling if I was a
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills fan, I'd feel the same kind of pressure
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: I felt when you know, Brady and Belichick were in
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: their prime and it was just that's what it was about.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: And when you see a year lineup like this where
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: your boogeyman is out of the way, Now, what excuse
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: do you have.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel like that because I feel like they
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: have a guy that they didn't have in all those years.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: They would go to the gunfight with not even a knife.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: Now it's a gunfight. They like they can win a
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: game like they did Sunday. They couldn't win that game
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: against Peedy.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 6: That is how they win games. That's what I'm saying
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 6: that this descriptive Sunday is how.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: They've won all of their games.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: Well, if I was Buffalo, that's how I would feel like, I, Okay, yeah,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: he's good, He's really good. Think that Drake May is
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: going to be excellent. I have a guy who's can
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: match him and be better than him. I do agree
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: they didn't have that. They didn't have that in the
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: Brady era.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 16: I do.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 4: Do you think they're feeling some pressure?
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: Mean the pressure is no ma homes Yeah no, no, yeah,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: that's the point I was trying to make sure. Yeah, no,
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 3: that was the point. And it's going to make a
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: point about the Patriots. I was just saying, we Buffalo
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: Patriots out of it. Just look at Buffalo. What's stopped them?
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: Like now, there's no chance.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: I I agree with you on that. I'm just I'm
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: just talking about the emailer with we're going to do
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: that again. Wasn't expecting like like we did, like we
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: did on our broadcast it, Yeah, we're going.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 22: To do it.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: That was good.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 6: I used the twenty four Celtics comparison I think last
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 6: week about like the Celtics when they won the title.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 4: The Seas like parted for them in the in the
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: in the you know.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: That Janni's got heart, everybody got hurt or got knocked
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 6: out by another team or something like that, and they
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 6: like had this easy, easy path.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying Buffalo is going to have a cake walk.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: It's not going to be an easy path.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 6: But at the same of time, like they are the
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 6: They are the best team on paper and the team
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 6: that has the best quarterback, so they they should win.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: They should.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: You're a betting person and you had a really good
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: odds for Buffalo against the field to win to get
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl, would you take that bet? Sure,
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: the field.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: I would take the field because they're going to be
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: on the road, because they're gonna win three road games
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: because they choke. The bigger thing is that they go
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: now to your point, maybe that'll somehow weirdly alleviate the
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: pressure a little bit. Yeah, you know, we got to
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: run three road games for them. I think that it's
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: important that they finish well and slide up to the
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: five spot, which would give them a chance to you know,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: a decent chance to avoid Denver because then if six
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: or seven can win in that game, at six seven,
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: they they can possibly you know that that team would
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: go to Denver instead. If the Patriots are two and
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: they play seven, the Patriots win, and then you know
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: the three is going to be you know, either Houston
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: or Jacksonville. If that six can beat the three, then
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: they would go to Denver. Yeah, right, and then you
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: get Buffalo, then you get Pittsburgh, Right, they would get Buffalo.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely think and I know would.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh not not gonna win? No, I know, I'm saying
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: for all the same for the Patriots.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 6: I know I was kind of making fun of the
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 6: Bills media earlier, but like you can kind of feel
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 6: it and see it with the fans and the media
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 6: in Buffalo that like this is like they're starting to
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 6: feel the pressure a little bit about maximizing alan.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: Like you need to like win one. I could understand that.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that that's some of the Rabel stuff,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 6: Like I think that's where some of that reaction is
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 6: coming from, is that like this is this should be
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 6: their the year, this is the year for them to win.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: He's twenty nine years old. I mean, yeah, you know,
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: the time is now. And then the other thing is
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: does Baltimore win these games? Yeah, and is it so
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: if you do slide up to five, do you go,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: is it Baltimore?
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 16: Is it?
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: Is it Buffalo at Baltimore? Yeah, which to he changes
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: the whole complexion of things. And then you want to
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: stay sick so you can don't play you know, Jacksonville
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: or Houston. So the bottom linees just don't think about it.
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  Speaker 1: You just try to win games.
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  Speaker 2: Kendall's in North Carolina. What's up, Kendall?
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  Speaker 22: Hey, what's going on?
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  Speaker 16: I'm probably going to the Bottomore game this weekend. I
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  Speaker 16: know any parties that's gonna be.
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  Speaker 22: In there be in the area.
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  Speaker 2: There is going to be a huge one and I
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: don't have the information in front of me, so probably
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  Speaker 2: by tomorrow's show at noon, somebody will send it to
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  Speaker 2: me and I'll announce it on the show tomorrow. Or
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  Speaker 2: you can go to the uh Patriots tailgate page on Facebook.
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  Speaker 2: I know Barry incioon usually has that all that information,
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  Speaker 2: so it's called Patriots Tailgate. It's on Facebook to get
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  Speaker 2: it or to listen tomorrow and I'll tell you all
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  Speaker 2: about a Kendall. Thanks for the call. Danny's in Daytona.
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Danny, Hey, how's it go guys?
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  Speaker 15: Can you guys hear me?
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  Speaker 1: Hey?
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  Speaker 22: So today I just I called it on Sunday.
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  Speaker 23: After the whole past couple of days of you know,
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  Speaker 23: depressing you know, from the game, and got to realize that,
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  Speaker 23: you know, the loss was I guess a good teaching
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  Speaker 23: point that everyone's called in and said about. One thing
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  Speaker 23: I still want to keep harping on is the special teams.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 23: I think that the Patriots should move in a different
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 23: action with the punter and the coordinator just for various reasons.
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  Speaker 23: We've just over the last couple of years, even long
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  Speaker 23: before the Jeremy Springer was here, we just have had
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  Speaker 23: wild inconsistencies on special teams and for in it like that,
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  Speaker 23: it shouldn't be like that. I mean, we look at
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  Speaker 23: some of the cross the league with Buffalo, and you
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  Speaker 23: look at other teams that have some really, really good
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  Speaker 23: coordinators courting special teams. I just really think they need
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  Speaker 23: to address that in the off season. It's something that
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  Speaker 23: it's been an ongoing thing for you know, three or
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  Speaker 23: four years now that it just hasn't seemed to be
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  Speaker 23: We have weeks where it looks good and then goes
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  Speaker 23: back to like, we know what we're doing, and then
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  Speaker 23: we go to another week it looks good again and
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  Speaker 23: then goes back to doing what we're doing. So I
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  Speaker 23: think they need to change that. As for the defense,
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  Speaker 23: I'm hoping that Midlands comes back and maybe he can
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 23: maybe the run game will get fixed again. Looked, you know,
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  Speaker 23: halfway decent, like in the Ricers break part of the season.
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  Speaker 23: And the one thing I don't know if you guys
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  Speaker 23: noticed that David Andrews and and uh, your guy Bars,
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  Speaker 23: he came out of there and mentioned that about the penalties.
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  Speaker 23: I was watching it this morning on that Port five
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  Speaker 23: four club. He was talking about if you remember in
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  Speaker 23: the beginning of the season, there was so many ridiculous
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 23: penalties and we were all like, this is not a
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 23: mic Rable coach team, and their penalties just left and
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  Speaker 23: right on all sides of the ball. And now you
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 23: see the task game reminders throwing hands and then uh,
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 23: Dave Andrews even said during the Giants game that didn't
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 23: happen there when Ellis hit their quarterback, you saw high.
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  Speaker 23: They're professional. So I don't know if you guys can
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 23: elaborate on that with why the professionals them in the penalties.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 23: How that happened?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So I guess he's saying that there aren't as
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: many penalties as there were before or they.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: Have the season. I think a little bit of penalties
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: have dropped off.
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  Speaker 2: I have them not an issue for me.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: They were an issue on Sunday, but that I think
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: that the penalties dropped off from the from the early
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: part of the season. I think those two plays are
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: very similar. When Christianewis hit Jackson Dart on the sideline,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: a guy from the Giants came over and took exception
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: to the hit and he got the penalty. This one reminder,
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: Stevenson took exception to the hit that he got on
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: the sideline and he threw He actually threw a punch,
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  Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, I don't know if there's gonna
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: be an inquiry on this, they decided to call a
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: penalty on the guy who got punched. And the guy
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: who punched I like that, so they called offsetting that right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Remindre's punch was justified, but.
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  Speaker 1: Not if you asked Mike Grabel. I just like Mike
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  Speaker 1: Grabel was not happy with reminder Stevenson on how.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know Robin, we'll end the show on
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: this email, He says, Am I crazy for thinking the
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: Patriots played well? So much of this episode has been
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: people asking what went wrong. I had no idea what
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: was going to happen in that game. Part of me
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: was thinking the Patriots might lose badly. I thought that
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: all the turnovers in the first Bills game might have
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: given us a skewed perception of how good this Patriots
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: team really is. The fact that they almost won means
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: that they belong. Am I crazy for thinking like that?
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: No? I told you right.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: I've then started the show.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: I told you I thought they played really well in
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: the game, and I don't know why you thought they
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: were going to get blown out. Quite honestly, you guys
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: have been telling me for ten straight weeks how this
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: how good this team is, and in the back of
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: your mind you thought there was a chance they were
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: going to get blown out. I didn't think there was
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: any chance they were going to get blown out.
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  Speaker 4: You skated with them, They just let you let them
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  Speaker 4: off the hook.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Fred, just real quick. I looked it up.
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  Speaker 3: So there is a this Saturday night, seven to nine
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  Speaker 3: pm at Lucky's Tavern ten Marketplace in Baltimore.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: There be a fan party. I think it's the official part.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: Some cheerleaders will be there.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: I think the Patriots are actually sending uh pat Patriot
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  Speaker 2: down there.
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  Speaker 3: They've got a picture of pat Patriot on there. And
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  Speaker 3: so yeah, seven and nine, all ages welcome at Lucky's
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  Speaker 3: tap flight.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know that that's good.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know Baltimore it's in. Is that where you're
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: staying from. Yeah, there's going to be giveaways, raffles, surprise
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: appearances may just but not me. Paul will be here.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: Paul be holding down the floor. He's not a man
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: of the people. No, no, behind the people.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: When I went to Tennessee in Nashville, they a lot
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: of people are saying, what is Evan coming?
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not a man of the people. We have the
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 4: show's over.
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  Speaker 17: But what is that?
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: You don't like people?
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 4: You're right that.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: People not for you.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll see it tomorrow and cat ten am
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  Speaker 2: all right, Hey, this is Alex.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 4: Thanks for tuning into the show.
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• 2:01:09
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• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: Thanks a lot,