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IAAI Town Meeting: The Most Memorable Episode of the Series (Season 4 E22 “Raincoats and Recipes”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in. Again!
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  Speaker 2: More, more, more. I want to kiss you more.
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  Speaker 1: More, more, more.
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  Speaker 2: I want to kiss you more.
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  Speaker 1: I Am All In Town Meeting with Suzanne French and
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  Speaker 1: Tara Sood. An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: another episode of I Am All In Town Meeting with myself, Tara,
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  Speaker 1: and Suzanne. Hello. Hello. We're talking about the finale of
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  Speaker 1: season four, season four, episode 22, Raincoats and Recipes, which
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  Speaker 1: aired on May 18th, 2004.
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  Speaker 2: Here we are.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Where do we begin?
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  Speaker 2: This episode gets like a 9.2 out of 10 on IMDb.
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  Speaker 2: This is a very popular episode.
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  Speaker 1: Really? See, I think it is The number one most
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  Speaker 1: memorable episode for me for Gilmore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Finale. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, this is literally like we're right in
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  Speaker 2: the middle and it's literally like the high point of
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  Speaker 2: the whole seven seasons for me.
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  Speaker 1: Also, it was when I was watching last night that
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  Speaker 1: I was like, it really took a full four seasons
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  Speaker 1: to get Luke and Lorelai together. Like, it really hit me.
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  Speaker 2: How do people hang on that long?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, because in my head, I'm like, what
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  Speaker 1: if they were about to get canceled? Right. What if
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  Speaker 1: they were like, oh, season four is not coming, and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, we just did all that for no reason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I hate when shows, like, leave you like that. Like,
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  Speaker 2: they just cancel it, and there's no, like, wrap up.
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  Speaker 1: The Resident with Matt Zucre is one of those that'll
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  Speaker 1: forever just kill me that it ended with, like, They
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  Speaker 1: didn't know it was their last season. Mind you, the
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  Speaker 1: last season definitely like... It wasn't bad. It just like
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the best, best season. But it was still really good.
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  Speaker 1: But then like literally it just never came back. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't get a last season. Right. And it to this
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  Speaker 1: day kills me. I've rewatched that show like four times.
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  Speaker 1: I love that show. Anyway, let's start with Lorelai and Luke. Sure.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I, in the last episode... I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: thank God. Like, Jason just went away. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Until now.
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  Speaker 1: Until now. And I was just like, okay, we'll go. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: let's rewind. So, she obviously tells Rory, like, hey, I think, like,
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  Speaker 1: we're dating. Like, me and.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And then she seems like over the episode, like, backtracks. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because like, then when they talk, sorry, I'm really jumping around.
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  Speaker 1: When Lorelai and Luke are talking about Jason, and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: I've given you all these signs, blah, blah. She acts
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  Speaker 1: like she didn't think that either.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think she didn't know what Luke was thinking.
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  Speaker 2: And she tells that to Rory in the Luke and
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  Speaker 2: Walt scene.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but she had a gut feeling. So why, when
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  Speaker 1: she was talking to Luke, she just acted like, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I could be overthinking it. The Jason stuff. I was
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  Speaker 1: so ready to never see him ever again.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like a leech.
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  Speaker 2: I liked that Lorelai stood her ground with him though.
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  Speaker 2: And she, because I was afraid, I mean, obviously I
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  Speaker 2: know how it's going to end, but I was afraid
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  Speaker 2: she was going to get wishy-washy and then like swing
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  Speaker 2: back towards Jason. So I'm, I'm glad she like kind
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  Speaker 2: of stood her ground and was like, no, you gotta go.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure why she would let him sit there
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  Speaker 2: and eat dinner. I would have kicked him out the door.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have given him food either, but I did
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  Speaker 1: love him. She was like, can you soothe my dad?
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, thank you for just blatantly saying it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I thought the scene with Jason and Luke,
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting to see those two like
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  Speaker 2: finally interacting. And yeah, I just thought.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought that. When Luke was like,
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  Speaker 1: who is that? I'm like, I swear I thought they've
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  Speaker 1: seen each other before.
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  Speaker 2: Well, only through the window of the diner. That one
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  Speaker 2: morning that Jason went to Stars Hollow and they stopped
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  Speaker 2: outside because they were going to get coughed. And he's like, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: I can't go in there because I was tailgating that
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  Speaker 2: guy earlier. And he kept calling.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. You're right. You're right. Because I knew they
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  Speaker 1: were in the same like vicinity, but I guess I
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  Speaker 1: forgot that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So they never like actually met and Lorelai never
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  Speaker 2: even told Luke about Jason until that moment in like
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  Speaker 2: two episodes ago when they were in the kitchen. So yeah, they,
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  Speaker 2: it never was clearly made apparent to Luke that that's
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  Speaker 2: who Jason was.
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  Speaker 1: Well, at least he's out of the picture officially. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously the famous scene of when Lorelai and Luke
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  Speaker 1: kiss and, um, Yeah. Oh my God. Kirk comes screaming
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  Speaker 1: is just one of the best scenes ever.
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  Speaker 2: Such a classic moment because by the time when they're
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  Speaker 2: at that point in the show, you've kind of forgotten
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  Speaker 2: about the whole Kirk thing. And so then all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden you're like, oh, that's right, Kirk. And it just,
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  Speaker 2: it was a hilarious moment. Like the timing I thought
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  Speaker 2: was perfect.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to talk about how lovely the dragonfly looked.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, it's been a construction zone for so many
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  Speaker 2: weeks now, so it's finally nice to see it in
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  Speaker 2: its finished state. It's very pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, even from the golf cart, the little details, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, it was just very... I'm happy that Lorelai,
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  Speaker 1: and I know we didn't touch on this last episode,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm happy that she invited her parents. I know
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  Speaker 1: obviously it was because they're fighting and she wanted them together,
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  Speaker 1: but she had a point when she said at the
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  Speaker 1: last Friday night dinner, besides having Rory, this is such
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  Speaker 1: a big career And life moment. So she wants them
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  Speaker 1: to be there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I did notice like she invited, it's like the day before,
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  Speaker 2: which I'm surprised that Emily didn't like lay into her
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  Speaker 2: for that. But I agree. Like her parents should be there.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was nice. And then it was the
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  Speaker 2: whole thing with the confrontation with Jason. Then he was like,
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  Speaker 2: can I have their room? That was pretty funny.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. But that part, I was like, this is why
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  Speaker 1: I don't like Jason. He's such a jerk.
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  Speaker 2: He was a weenie in this scene for sure.
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  Speaker 1: We never see him again, do we?
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  Speaker 2: No, that's the last of Jason.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: Until we see him in the revival. But yeah, in
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  Speaker 2: the main series, this is the last we see of him.
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  Speaker 1: And then we get to Rory.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God, Rory.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I have, but I, before we rip Rory apart, I
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  Speaker 2: have a bone to pick with Dean.
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  Speaker 1: So in the beginning, I have multiple to pick with him.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah. I mean, obviously, I mean, I don't mean
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  Speaker 2: it to sound like the whole thing is Rory's fault
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  Speaker 2: because it's like, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: It takes two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And he's the one that was actually cheating
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  Speaker 2: on his spouse, but, um, It really bothered me when
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  Speaker 2: they were in the dragonfly in the scene where they
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  Speaker 2: almost kiss and Tom interrupts them. The way he was
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  Speaker 2: saying to Rory when they were talking about Jess and
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  Speaker 2: he's like, I don't want you with him.
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: You're married to somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: You don't get to have.
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  Speaker 2: An opinion on who Rory dates. You're not in charge
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  Speaker 2: of that. And that like bugged the crap out of
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  Speaker 2: me the way he was like all, you know, male
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  Speaker 2: aggressive about it. Like, I don't want you with him.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, who cares what you want? You know,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't want her with Jess either. But it
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  Speaker 2: was just the way he was. I don't know. It
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  Speaker 2: was really weird. Like his opinion even mattered in the
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  Speaker 2: whole thing, which it didn't.
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  Speaker 1: So I think I've already I think Dean's already bugged
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  Speaker 1: me to just the way he acted when they broke
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  Speaker 1: up and then the way he's been acting like. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think I was okay when they were cordial because
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  Speaker 1: they knew they were going to see each other and
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  Speaker 1: it should have stayed at that. It should have never
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  Speaker 1: continued past that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously now she's calling him and this and that. And like, also,
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  Speaker 1: also the other thing, I know we've talked about this,
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  Speaker 1: but like he's hanging out with Rory and then not
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  Speaker 1: telling his wife, which is even more sketchy. So like
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  Speaker 1: you have no right in saying who Rory should be
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  Speaker 1: with when you were lying to your own wife.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. You don't get that say.
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  Speaker 2: And the, He talked, like, I know I'm, like, skipping
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  Speaker 2: ahead here, but the whole scene at Lorelai's house when,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they actually do the thing. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's clearly telling Rory what she wants to hear, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because she's asking about Lindsay. And he's like, oh, it's over. And...
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  Speaker 2: and let's just think about this for a second because
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  Speaker 2: Rory tells Lorelai that they use protection. So he went
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  Speaker 2: over to Lorelai's house with a condom in his pocket.
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  Speaker 2: Like he planned that whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, well, I never thought
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  Speaker 1: about that part of it.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you know, I guess theoretically the condoms could have
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  Speaker 2: been in the house. Maybe there were Lorelai's and Rory
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  Speaker 2: knew where they were and she went and got one.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure that Dean belonged to Dean. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? He went over there knowing what
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  Speaker 2: was going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she doesn't just have one in her... She's not
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  Speaker 1: the person to have one in her bedside table.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I know she kind of is, but....
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  Speaker 1: At her mom's house?
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  Speaker 2: But I meant Lorelai.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no, I meant Rory. I'm like, Rory doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: like the person.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Rory's not going to have one handy.
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  Speaker 1: Unless, unless, wait, do we know, do we know if
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  Speaker 1: he brought, if he brought the condom?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm assuming that he did
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  Speaker 2: because I think he planned this whole thing. He went
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  Speaker 2: over there knowing what was going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: But you've just had a point that Lorelai could have
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  Speaker 1: had some. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And Rory and Lorelai were, you know, kind of open
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  Speaker 2: about that sort of thing. So they could have been
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  Speaker 2: in the house already. But I'm not thinking it was Lorelai's.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking it was Dean's. I mean, because he went
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  Speaker 2: over there knowing that Rory was home alone. He knew
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  Speaker 2: what he was planning.
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  Speaker 1: Why else would he have gone?
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  Speaker 2: Right, exactly. That's my point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't just a coincidence. Because he knew... Rory would
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  Speaker 2: be coming back with the CDs. So it wasn't about
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  Speaker 2: like just hanging out with Rory. It was about going
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  Speaker 2: to where she was alone.
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  Speaker 1: He had an intention. Yes. What else was he going
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  Speaker 1: to do? Help her carry CDs? Come on.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like it's furniture.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly. So he like set out to cheat on
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  Speaker 2: his wife. And Rory was like, oh, my Dean. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he is 110% in the wrong. But she is
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  Speaker 1: almost up there. Because when Lorelai started asking questions like,
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  Speaker 1: Did he say he's leaving Lindsay, which still isn't a
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  Speaker 1: reason to sleep with someone who's married. But like Rory
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  Speaker 1: didn't have an answer to that.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right. And she's like, but he took the ring off.
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  Speaker 2: Like somehow that makes it okay.
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  Speaker 1: Somehow that finalizes a divorce in Rory's head. Also, here's
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  Speaker 1: the other thing. If someone that you're interested in, let's
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  Speaker 1: think big picture, not your ex. Let's think big picture.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say you meet someone. and they're going through a divorce,
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't you still feel weird? Like, wouldn't you still be like, okay, like,
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  Speaker 1: is this divorce finalized? Like, what, how long has it been?
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  Speaker 1: Because if they, if the divorce papers haven't even come through,
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  Speaker 1: you're like, okay, well, this is, if the divorce papers
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  Speaker 1: have just been signed, then you're like, okay, that's, there's,
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  Speaker 1: it's timing wise, right? To like, I'm not saying it's
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  Speaker 1: okay because people meet other people and life goes on
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  Speaker 1: and things change. People get married again. Like, that's, that
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  Speaker 1: is normal. But, I don't think Lindsay knows that she's
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  Speaker 1: getting a divorce yet. Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what I meant earlier by Dean was saying
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  Speaker 2: what Rory wanted to hear. So he was saying that
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  Speaker 2: we agree that we're not together, that this isn't working.
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  Speaker 2: But not really. He wants Rory to think that. but
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  Speaker 2: this is all on Dean's side. Like we know that
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  Speaker 2: there hasn't been an agreement where Dean and Lindsay are like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: let's break up. Like Lindsay is blindsided by this whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, she is the victim in it.
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  Speaker 2: All for sure. For sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel bad because like, you know, I know
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  Speaker 1: we talked about like, what are her expectations and a
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  Speaker 1: husband and all that? Like she doesn't want to work,
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  Speaker 1: but she wants to hang out with him. Like it's
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  Speaker 1: just a little childish. But she really is innocent in
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  Speaker 1: all of it. Like, she really didn't do anything.
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  Speaker 2: Right, exactly. And, yeah, she was unrealistic about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what marriage means, maybe. But that doesn't mean she deserves
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  Speaker 2: to get cheated on. Like, she was completely an innocent
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  Speaker 2: victim in this whole thing. And Dean kind of set
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  Speaker 2: it up so that Rory is thinking one thing and
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  Speaker 2: it seems like it's, you know, not so bad. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Dean is the one that orchestrated this whole thing, but
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  Speaker 2: Rory was just in such denial about it. What does
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  Speaker 2: she say to Lorelai? She says something about, aren't you
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  Speaker 2: happy it was somebody that really loves me? Why would
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  Speaker 2: you think Lorelai would be happy about any of this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a really weird statement.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And Rory's like, oh, but, you know, she's not,
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  Speaker 2: she's trying to make it out like this was a
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  Speaker 2: good thing that happened because, you know, well, Lindsay isn't
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  Speaker 2: good for Dean and he loves me. And isn't this
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  Speaker 2: great that this happened? And she's just like completely out
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  Speaker 2: of touch with reality.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. This is like the last episode in this one
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  Speaker 1: is where Rory really just loses me. like yeah seriously
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  Speaker 1: it's just yeah and yeah.
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  Speaker 2: For yeah this one especially because especially when Lorelai says
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  Speaker 2: you know Dean was cheating and and Rory's like he
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  Speaker 2: wasn't cheating well of course he was he was having
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  Speaker 2: sex with somebody that wasn't his wife what do.
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  Speaker 1: You think cheating means you need the definition.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah she's just I don't know she's a problem
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  Speaker 2: she's gonna be a problem for a few more episodes here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah literally I really wish Jess was back in this
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  Speaker 1: finale to throw everyone for a loop.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine if Jess had showed up at the Dragonfly?
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  Speaker 2: That would have been awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah. I wish that happened.
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  Speaker 2: That would have been really cool.
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  Speaker 1: And also, I didn't feel, even though I know we
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  Speaker 1: were supposed to, I didn't feel bad when she called
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  Speaker 1: and Lindsay picked up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. She needed that reality check.
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  Speaker 1: It happened real quick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: 35 seconds after he left. yeah yeah i mean do
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  Speaker 1: you think that do you think if he picked up
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  Speaker 1: she still wouldn't have like known the difference like knowing
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  Speaker 1: that she did something wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I i don't i think she still would have been
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  Speaker 2: in denial because also how fast does she think he
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  Speaker 2: got home well i think she because she was calling
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  Speaker 2: his cell phone so i think.
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  Speaker 1: She he didn't have his phone on him No, because.
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  Speaker 2: In the next episode, which we haven't watched yet, so
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  Speaker 2: maybe you don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: He.
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  Speaker 2: Yells at Lindsay because she answered his phone. Yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. I was like, did I miss a
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  Speaker 1: part of this episode?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's coming in the next episode. So it was
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  Speaker 2: his cell phone, which for whatever reason he didn't have
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  Speaker 2: with him, whether he forgot it or whatever. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I think Rory just expected him to pick up
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  Speaker 2: because she was calling his cell phone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Yep, I remember this now. Sorry, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: where is that in this episode?
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot, like, packed in here. I'm mad at
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  Speaker 2: Rory not only for the Dean thing, but because she
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  Speaker 2: ruined Lorelai's big moment.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I know.
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  Speaker 2: Luke and Lorelai were on track for something here, and
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  Speaker 2: then Rory had to go and ruin that. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of mad at her for that.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Also, just a random call out, but in the opening scene,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: which she's making macaroni and cheese, don't they usually just
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: eat mac and cheese out of a box? The fact
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: that she was straining macaroni at 2 a.m.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: That's true. She actually boiled pasta.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then she was putting full slices of cheese. Yeah.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, what happened? It threw me off the
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: first episode because I'm like, well, I guess it makes
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: sense because she was trying to keep busy at 2 a.m. Yeah.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: But I was like, you have never in your life
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: boiled pasta.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, so one other thing I noticed, and
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you caught this, in the background
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: where they were at the Dragonfly and they're getting everything
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: set up, did you notice one of the guys that
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: was setting the place settings of the table licked the
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: silverware before he put it on the table?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: No, but I feel like Suki's done that many times
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: throughout the series.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: That's true. She, like, will mix something and then taste
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: it and then put the spoon back in.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like she did it multiple times.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: It was funny because there was, like, kind of the
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: running story about, you know, all these people are so great.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Who's Suki going to fire? Like, maybe start with that person. But, yeah,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: just kind of one of those funny things in the background.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: And then also, did you notice the two emo guys
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: that were hanging out in the background?
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: No.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: So there were two guys. We saw them. They checked
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: in at the desk and Lorelai gave them their keys.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: And then we see them in the background in the
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: dining room scene. And Tom was sitting with them. It
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: was like these two guys with like these shag haircuts
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: and black sweaters and black pants. And like they looked like,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe 20-ish, like late teens, early 20s. Like
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: just these two kind of emo guys hanging out in
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the background.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know who they were. Did not pay attention.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Just random people.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Good times though. Good times at the Dragonfly.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I'm actually very happy that we have the Dragonfly like
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: established and done. Cause now it's like, you know, it
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: made me think this finale was really setting up the
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: future of the show. Yeah. This one in particular.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah. Because so, so much of it now
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: from now on, like that's kind of the foundation of
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: their whole, that's like the setting of, of a lot
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: of storylines now.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: It was a good finale. I mean, I, Yeah. I
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: want to watch it. Actually, you know what I'm going
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: to do? I'm going to watch it again before watching
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: the next episode.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Just to tee it up.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because season five, episode one picks up that same night.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Same night.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's a good idea.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I always wondered, like, did they go right into the
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: next episode or did they just have to basically refilm
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: in the same outfit, same everything?
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: I think, like, they started again. Like, they didn't shoot
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: the two episodes at the same time.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: And I can't remember now where I read it, but
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I read somewhere that someone... was it Sean Gunn somebody
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: had gotten a haircut over the summer and so they
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: had to wear a wig in the next episode I
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: want to say it was Sean Gunn I'll see if
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I can find that information again but yeah I think
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: they had to just repeat the same wardrobe and everything
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: else and it was like a totally different shoot months later.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: But what's crazy is that means that the set designers
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: have had to literally place everything back. Mm-hmm. Exactly.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Or just hold it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: You can't hold it through the summer, though.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: On a soundstage?
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: You can't leave it all. Because you pay for when you're...
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: You can't just leave everything there. Because they're gone from...
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: If it aired in May, they probably filmed this in,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: let's say... April. April. You can't leave all that from
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: April to August. There's other people using it. Yeah, you
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: can't leave it. So they have to reset everything.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Anyway, but yeah, I mean, when do we meet Logan
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: this season? Season five?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty early on, I think. It's when they go
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: back to school.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: God, the worst season that I'm not ready for is
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: when Lorelai and Rory don't talk.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Truly the worst season. The last season's pretty. But the
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: season that, you know what it is, that season when
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: they don't talk, it just went on for too long
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: and it just started pissing me off. That's what it was.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: If they didn't talk for two, three episodes, I would
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: have been fine, but it went on for way too long.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, like coming up at the beginning of season five,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: they have that period where they're not talking because Rory's
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: in Europe and, you know, they're pissed at each other
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: or whatever. But that's just a short period of time.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, like another couple episodes, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Anyway. Anyway. We,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: next week, are going to be talking about season five premiere,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: which is season five, episode one. Say goodbye to Daisy Miller.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: We'll see you then. Meeting adjourned. Hey everybody, don't forget,
• 22:14
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• 22:18
  Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at I heart radio.com.