Latest / Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash / #117 Pork Drama, Roll Patrol And The Frightening Centipede
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Happy New Year.
- 0:00Speaker 2: Okay, here goes here it goes.
- 0:03Speaker 1: First words out of his mouth for the year mine
- 0:04Speaker 1: is Happy new Year, Welcome back to what little we've
- 0:11Speaker 1: been back and forth in anyway, Happy New Year.
- 0:14Speaker 2: No, that's what we're going to say.
- 0:15Speaker 1: That the hammer's back, Oh God, and it.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Begins, Welcome back to two doting dads.
- 0:37Speaker 1: I am Maddie Jay and I'm as.
- 0:39Speaker 2: This is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good,
- 0:42Speaker 2: it is the bad and the relatable. And if you've
- 0:45Speaker 2: come winning in the advice, shock horror, we will not
- 0:48Speaker 2: be giving any in twenty twenty five.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Thank goodness. I was worried there. I thought we're gonna
- 0:53Speaker 1: have to give some sort of advice after a couple
- 0:55Speaker 1: of years. People look to us as experts in the field.
- 0:59Speaker 1: They are deathly wrong. Happy New Year, Happy New Year.
- 1:04Speaker 2: I do want to start earlier than that and say
- 1:07Speaker 2: Merry Christmas.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you. Thank God it's over.
- 1:10Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot of people listening that
- 1:12Speaker 2: would get shivers from the word Merry Christmas.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Shaking in my bones over here, How was yours? It
- 1:19Speaker 1: was all right? I mean it's not. It's a stressful
- 1:21Speaker 1: time hence the hemorrhoids back. How do you know it's back?
- 1:24Speaker 1: It's my anus? Man, can you feel that it's coming back?
- 1:30Speaker 1: It's there present. I remarking the role, and I'm.
- 1:33Speaker 3: Like Oscar Macie, April iggy hemorrhoids presents. Yeah, literally that
- 1:43Speaker 3: that's That's exactly what it sounds like.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Is it like a polyp?
- 1:46Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a polyp. You feel it? Stings?
- 1:49Speaker 2: How do you whop your ass? I apologize to our listeners.
- 1:52Speaker 2: I'm here for the parenting content.
- 1:55Speaker 1: April brought me some flushable wipes.
- 1:57Speaker 2: They're no good. They're no good.
- 1:58Speaker 1: They don't know these are specific to the flush will wipes,
- 2:01Speaker 1: but you're going to use one at the time, and
- 2:02Speaker 1: they're deathly thin. So I figured myself a few times. Sorry, sorry,
- 2:11Speaker 1: You're not sorry. I'm not sorry at all. I couldn't
- 2:14Speaker 1: care a Christmas. Yes, you asked me a question. Where
- 2:16Speaker 1: were you? We had Christmas at my grandmother's house. We
- 2:20Speaker 1: spoke about it last year. Remember she has the terrible
- 2:23Speaker 1: tablecloths that are from the fifties, the Spoon collection. This
- 2:26Speaker 1: Spoon collection.
- 2:27Speaker 2: She was the one in the video with the calendar.
- 2:29Speaker 1: She got a calendar. She's stoked. She's going to take
- 2:31Speaker 1: it down to the Seniors club for show and tell.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Just quickly, are there any calendars left? I think we
- 2:36Speaker 2: have almost fifty. Okay, a little plug in there for
- 2:39Speaker 2: the calendars.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Yeah, jump on link in the show notes. Nan loved it.
- 2:44Speaker 2: Who does the food in your family?
- 2:46Speaker 1: I was on roll patrol?
- 2:48Speaker 2: What's a roll patrol?
- 2:49Speaker 1: So there's Vietnamese bakery on the Northern Beaches, yep, called
- 2:53Speaker 1: Vans shout out. They definitely not have any social media
- 2:56Speaker 1: or anything. Yeah, there's a treasure map to try and
- 2:59Speaker 1: find them. But they do fresh rolls on the day,
- 3:01Speaker 1: hot rolls and on Christmas Day and people buy and
- 3:05Speaker 1: buy the fucking garbage bag. What they're so good?
- 3:10Speaker 2: Is it a kid they're getting a roll?
- 3:11Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like a tradition. It's it's huge.
- 3:15Speaker 2: I've never heard of this. And why have you never
- 3:17Speaker 2: bought me a role?
- 3:18Speaker 1: Because they only good on the day you buy them, right.
- 3:21Speaker 1: So I was on the rolls.
- 3:22Speaker 2: But that's a great job to have because over go
- 3:27Speaker 2: for a nice, long, relaxing drive. Do you win the kids?
- 3:31Speaker 1: It's the vest but also something and then.
- 3:33Speaker 2: You're like, there was such a long queue. Actually were
- 3:35Speaker 2: gone for three hours full dislaimer.
- 3:36Speaker 1: There has been years that I've got them the day before.
- 3:43Speaker 1: If my family is listening, that's a lie. Yeah, look
- 3:47Speaker 1: it's much easier than day before if I want us,
- 3:49Speaker 1: But yeah, that's my job. And then Nan had the ham.
- 3:53Speaker 1: She won it. She went to ham every year. I
- 3:55Speaker 1: would say that we haven't paid for a ham in
- 3:57Speaker 1: my family in twenty years. It's a nice flex. Sister
- 4:00Speaker 1: was on the salads. What it sounds like? A very
- 4:03Speaker 1: memorable too, focused on the rolls. But it was good.
- 4:08Speaker 1: We all got together because obviously it's hard to do
- 4:12Speaker 1: all the families in one day. We did April's parents
- 4:15Speaker 1: side of the family on Christmas Eve, which is nice
- 4:17Speaker 1: too because then the kids got to see them all
- 4:19Speaker 1: Christmas Eve it's all about them, and then the next
- 4:22Speaker 1: day it's my family.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Doesn't feel doesn't feel very Christmas y when it's it's
- 4:26Speaker 2: done like two weeks prior to Christmas.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Yeah, people are like, was that someone had their family
- 4:31Speaker 1: Christmas in November? That's not right? What's that about?
- 4:34Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 4:35Speaker 1: Santa Claus is just like, how are you explaining that
- 4:38Speaker 1: one to the kids? Yeah, he comes early. I'm not
- 4:41Speaker 1: going to make his ex joke I'm doing.
- 4:44Speaker 2: Strong as is just sitting there coming down his brow.
- 4:50Speaker 2: It's like when I'm trying to hold you on it.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Did you do a pork No, very good decision, there's ham.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Remind me to send this episode to Laura.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Okay, pigs are impressive, bro. They are the givers different
- 5:02Speaker 1: the different variations of meat. Anyway, carry on, they provide
- 5:07Speaker 1: a lot. You don't like the pork.
- 5:09Speaker 2: No, what we is a second.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Year in a row.
- 5:11Speaker 2: We did Christmas at our house sucks for two years. Yeah, yeah,
- 5:16Speaker 2: we moved in just before Christmas. Time time fly does
- 5:20Speaker 2: when you're doing a podcast with your best friend, really
- 5:23Speaker 2: shut up. So we did pork last year, and I said, Laura,
- 5:29Speaker 2: we're doing Christmas again with all the family. There's no
- 5:32Speaker 2: need to do pork again. Well, what happened with the
- 5:34Speaker 2: pork before was just the issue. Was issue was it's
- 5:38Speaker 2: just very stressful, just another thing to run around and
- 5:40Speaker 2: try and grab on Christmas Eve. Then on Christmas Day,
- 5:43Speaker 2: you know, as soon as you do presents with the kids,
- 5:45Speaker 2: and then you're straight into the process of like getting
- 5:48Speaker 2: the meat ready and blah blah blah blah blah, and
- 5:50Speaker 2: just the stress levels already high enough. You just don't
- 5:53Speaker 2: need another thing to worry about. And like you said,
- 5:56Speaker 2: very good point, Ash, you've already got the ham. It's
- 6:00Speaker 2: almost disrespectful, I think, to the pig community to offer
- 6:04Speaker 2: ham and pork in the one meal.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Or is it a compliment? You have so much to offer,
- 6:10Speaker 1: we want more of you.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Very good point.
- 6:12Speaker 1: I just thought, we've got it.
- 6:13Speaker 2: We've got ham, right, we've got seafood, we've got the salads.
- 6:17Speaker 1: We don't do seafood, or we do on April fuck
- 6:21Speaker 1: we do on April side. So April's dad no prawns,
- 6:25Speaker 1: gets the prawns and pills anyone allergic My dad's dad
- 6:28Speaker 1: who's now dead, not from fish condolences, thank you. Uh.
- 6:32Speaker 1: He was an avid fisherman, so that everything's not like
- 6:36Speaker 1: fish all the time. My dad cannot stand fish.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Wow, Okay interesting. Yeah, so I thought there's just no need,
- 6:43Speaker 2: no need. And also, yeah, the biggest ick that I
- 6:46Speaker 2: get is on a summer's day having the oven of
- 6:50Speaker 2: full ball and doing roast faggies and then doing a.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Full your lunch sounds amazing. I'm over here rubbing two
- 6:58Speaker 1: sticks together and you're fucking indulging it. You're knocking back meats,
- 7:03Speaker 1: like what about this pork? We don't want it, We
- 7:07Speaker 1: don't want it anyway. I do think it's it's not necessary.
- 7:12Speaker 1: I think it's it's you could have it or you
- 7:14Speaker 1: could go without. We don't have it anyway.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Then it was it was one. It was a cause
- 7:18Speaker 2: an argument, Yeah, cause an argument because poor crackling. I
- 7:22Speaker 2: don't I don't know. I've never done it. I've never
- 7:23Speaker 2: really cooked pork.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Huge. It's hard. It is hard.
- 7:27Speaker 2: People have lots of opinions, like when you start putting
- 7:30Speaker 2: salt on the skin and anyway, Like many people would
- 7:35Speaker 2: come over and they'd be like, you haven't started salting them.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Poor. That's the thing with Christmas, and your family comes
- 7:41Speaker 1: over and everyone's got a different ways they do ship.
- 7:43Speaker 2: And Laura was in charge. And Laura is very good
- 7:45Speaker 2: at the pork because once one.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Dish that she is unbelievable delicious from here.
- 7:53Speaker 2: But that that caused it sounds fucking weird to say,
- 7:57Speaker 2: but the subject of pork almost destroyed Christmas.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a balancing act Christmas where you get
- 8:05Speaker 1: stuck with the real red hot uncle who's like says
- 8:09Speaker 1: something that is just so boomer and you're like, yeah,
- 8:12Speaker 1: because she's trying not to have the argument or.
- 8:15Speaker 2: What you're the uncle and your family.
- 8:22Speaker 1: My father in law's partner's son's girlfriend is Thaie, so
- 8:28Speaker 1: she had she brang a lovely chicken curry that they
- 8:33Speaker 1: have on Christmas is a mustanham chicken. Was delightful. I
- 8:37Speaker 1: was going back for the rice and I was just like,
- 8:39Speaker 1: this is Christmas.
- 8:41Speaker 2: A chicken curry on Christmas? Fuck me with the Vietnamese rolls.
- 8:49Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was like the un and my
- 8:53Speaker 1: father in law speaking broken English to this quarter. It
- 8:57Speaker 1: was great. But like I said, like you bring all
- 9:00Speaker 1: the family together Jesus Christ.
- 9:02Speaker 2: When my family, well, when all the families left, because
- 9:05Speaker 2: my my family came down from Brisbane and rock Hampton
- 9:09Speaker 2: shout out to the brothers. And Laura's family came from Woollongong.
- 9:12Speaker 2: That came from North Queensland. Where's he from?
- 9:15Speaker 1: Laura's dad Magnetic Island.
- 9:17Speaker 2: That I was going to say, it came all the
- 9:19Speaker 2: way from Magnetic Island. It was we will full to
- 9:22Speaker 2: the brim as family of family and it's nice, but
- 9:27Speaker 2: it's one of those feelings where I'm trying it's nice,
- 9:30Speaker 2: but it's like, Okay, at risk of you making fun
- 9:34Speaker 2: of me, I would never have you ever had cavia.
- 9:37Speaker 1: I would have been able to taste the delicacy that
- 9:40Speaker 1: is cavia.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Please do tell I know you're the wrong crowd if
- 9:44Speaker 2: you if you're poor, you're easier. You never want to
- 9:47Speaker 2: try cavier?
- 9:48Speaker 1: Is it fish eggs?
- 9:49Speaker 2: Is that what it is? Yes? Very good fish.
- 9:51Speaker 1: Come.
- 9:51Speaker 2: I've eaten caviat before, right, it must be nice, and
- 9:59Speaker 2: I didn't like it. You have to try and tell
- 10:01Speaker 2: yourself like, no, you've got to like this, Like, you've
- 10:03Speaker 2: got to enjoy it. You know this is good. This
- 10:05Speaker 2: is You've got to cherish the deep down you're like,
- 10:09Speaker 2: but I'm not really enjoying it. But at the same time,
- 10:12Speaker 2: it's this battle, internal battle of trying to enjoy it
- 10:15Speaker 2: when you don't. Really.
- 10:18Speaker 1: It's a bit like Christmas. It's very true.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Christmas is a moment in the year when you're forced
- 10:24Speaker 2: to people like, do people actually out there? Do they
- 10:27Speaker 2: enjoy it?
- 10:28Speaker 1: End to end? No? No, people, I.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Mean it looks very happy on like, there's many moments.
- 10:35Speaker 2: There's moments were like opening the presence, I'm like, this
- 10:37Speaker 2: is great. The kids are happy.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Love that until the till is a meltdown, like until
- 10:42Speaker 1: like the first meltdown, and you're like, oh, or you
- 10:46Speaker 1: realize that, you realize that that was a stupid idea
- 10:50Speaker 1: to get that.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Do you know what caused the massive meltdown with my kids?
- 10:53Speaker 2: On Christmas morning? We got equal gifts pretty much almost replicated. Like,
- 10:58Speaker 2: got a new dress for Mali.
- 11:00Speaker 1: It helps me. You got two girls, Yeah, got the
- 11:01Speaker 1: exact same dress, but a size smaller for Lola.
- 11:04Speaker 2: Mary got a new bike. Lola got a new bike.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Like we matched, right, except there was always one person
- 11:10Speaker 2: who would open their present quicker than the other person.
- 11:14Speaker 2: And so for example, Lola would like open her present,
- 11:17Speaker 2: first look at Marley, who was still opening her present,
- 11:20Speaker 2: and go she got more than me, And we go no, no,
- 11:24Speaker 2: she's just you at the same present. She's just still
- 11:28Speaker 2: opening it. She's taking a bit more time.
- 11:29Speaker 1: She's a bit more careful with the wrapping, and that,
- 11:32Speaker 1: like every present was the battle of who's got more.
- 11:35Speaker 1: It sums up your kid's personalities too. Lola's like, he
- 11:39Speaker 1: just got mar She's like, I'm doing the reputting the
- 11:42Speaker 1: sticky tape back on the.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Roll, like so many moments where I was thinking to myself,
- 11:48Speaker 2: this is Christmas.
- 11:49Speaker 1: You have to like it. Yeah, when I don't outstand.
- 11:52Speaker 2: It, waving goodbye to the last family member, when that
- 11:56Speaker 2: front door closed and I could finally have the house
- 11:58Speaker 2: to my my owner game.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Yeah beautiful. I just like I find it when I
- 12:03Speaker 1: go to Christmas. I just find a vacant room to
- 12:05Speaker 1: hide in All the time. I'm like, oh, God, shut
- 12:10Speaker 1: the door or something, especially if they got air coon
- 12:13Speaker 1: it's like thirty five degrees out.
- 12:14Speaker 2: But don't reckon it, like I guess if you're by yourself.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Laura and I did that for a bit and someone
- 12:19Speaker 2: came into the room, and I think they thought we
- 12:21Speaker 2: were trying to have like sex.
- 12:24Speaker 1: I was on my own. I'm like, I still got
- 12:27Speaker 1: my pants on. My kids. The meltdown came after they
- 12:32Speaker 1: were very spoilt. Of course, Oh it must be nice.
- 12:37Speaker 1: It wasn't me that spoiled them. It was Santa.
- 12:39Speaker 2: No, Santa.
- 12:40Speaker 1: It was because April's obviously got mum, partner, dad, partner,
- 12:46Speaker 1: brothers with no kids. The benefit of broken families, extra stuff.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Extra stuff.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Yeah, but not for them, not for me, because they
- 12:54Speaker 1: buy so much stuff, and like I preempted that. I
- 12:58Speaker 1: knew April had bought some things for the kids that
- 13:02Speaker 1: needed batteries, and you know how fiddly it is to
- 13:05Speaker 1: get the little screwdriver out to get the batter so
- 13:08Speaker 1: I pre emptied and I hid the batteries in the
- 13:10Speaker 1: house so that when they wanted to play with it,
- 13:15Speaker 1: they could only really play with a couple of things,
- 13:18Speaker 1: all of them in the same day. Because they play,
- 13:19Speaker 1: they want to play with everything that day, and then
- 13:22Speaker 1: they bored with it. So I hid the bat trees
- 13:25Speaker 1: because I just was like, I don't want to have
- 13:27Speaker 1: to spend my day changing batteries. And then April found
- 13:31Speaker 1: the batteries. I was one step ahead. I've hid the
- 13:34Speaker 1: little screwdrivers so that I couldn't get into it and
- 13:37Speaker 1: trying to explain to Oscar. So that's causing meltdowns as
- 13:39Speaker 1: it is. And I sort of got to the point
- 13:42Speaker 1: where April found the screwdrivers and I had to put
- 13:45Speaker 1: things together.
- 13:46Speaker 2: But she found the screwed Yeah, she's good, she's good.
- 13:50Speaker 2: Where'd you hide them?
- 13:51Speaker 1: Just a drawer below? Didn't have that much effort into it,
- 13:56Speaker 1: but they Oscar just wanted to play with absolutely everything,
- 14:00Speaker 1: and there's always a family member that gets you that
- 14:03Speaker 1: one thing that it's obnoxiously annoying crime for their kid
- 14:09Speaker 1: slime is a bad one. This is a battery operator
- 14:13Speaker 1: to and of course Oscar wanted to play with this
- 14:15Speaker 1: one first because it's obscure looking to everything else. Microphone No, no,
- 14:20Speaker 1: that was last year. About that microphone still in hiding,
- 14:24Speaker 1: been a whole year. No one's asked me about it anyway,
- 14:28Speaker 1: for now anyway. So he got gifted this from an
- 14:32Speaker 1: auntie of mine, which I'm not happy about. I'm gonna
- 14:35Speaker 1: show you and you can see my frustration. Please, is
- 14:41Speaker 1: this exactly? It's a centipede. For those listening forget, this
- 14:46Speaker 1: is not a visual medium. It's a centipede. It's a
- 14:50Speaker 1: remote control centipede.
- 14:52Speaker 2: Oh my god. I thought that would scare the hell
- 14:54Speaker 2: out of the kids.
- 14:55Speaker 1: It would. Why would you get that? Does it work? Yeah,
- 14:58Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you. Followed by it's like a Russia.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Oh so picture this.
- 15:11Speaker 1: I can't even talk over it. Listen it's so loud
- 15:15Speaker 1: you can't even turn it down.
- 15:16Speaker 2: Busters like a.
- 15:21Speaker 1: Picture this. I'm at home after spending a whole day
- 15:26Speaker 1: with my family. Listen to them yap on and then
- 15:31Speaker 1: I get home to this, No offense to my armie,
- 15:34Speaker 1: But why would you buy that? Do you want if
- 15:36Speaker 1: I turn it off, throw it out? Do you want
- 15:38Speaker 1: it for your kids?
- 15:39Speaker 2: No?
- 15:39Speaker 1: Definitely not, it's horrible. Just get them a ball.
- 15:42Speaker 2: Also, why make one thing do so much? Like the
- 15:47Speaker 2: vape is like unnecessary, but like sure like the disc music.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Yeah, if it would just scamp it around, it can just.
- 15:55Speaker 2: Be a simple centipede.
- 15:56Speaker 1: My little dog is petrified that I fucking Betty is
- 15:59Speaker 1: the it is.
- 16:00Speaker 2: I'm surprised Oscars even got the balls to play with
- 16:02Speaker 2: that thing.
- 16:03Speaker 1: He loves it. He went down to the park with
- 16:05Speaker 1: April and took it, and apparently kids crowding around they
- 16:09Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, he's put on a disco Yeah, apparently
- 16:13Speaker 1: he was like midway through doing it, took his hat
- 16:16Speaker 1: off and turned it backwards b and was like, that
- 16:19Speaker 1: is if you want your child to be a DJ.
- 16:21Speaker 2: Fuck boy, vbes, vabes.
- 16:29Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got it all. Love that anyway. That was
- 16:32Speaker 1: my Christmas day was spent changing batteries.
- 16:35Speaker 2: I don't know if it's worth asking the question considering
- 16:37Speaker 2: how your Christmas went, but how was your New Year's?
- 16:40Speaker 2: Was it any better, is it worse?
- 16:42Speaker 1: News was good. We just had some people over at
- 16:44Speaker 1: our place with their kids. I've got a trampoline. It
- 16:48Speaker 1: was nice, got a half pipe. They love that.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Well. Money bags over here.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 16:54Speaker 2: Did you take them on a new helicopter pad?
- 16:55Speaker 1: No, it's not built yet.
- 16:56Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 16:56Speaker 1: So that was pretty good. We made some pizzas and
- 16:58Speaker 1: the album was lovely as well.
- 17:00Speaker 2: You're just the little what don't you have in this
- 17:03Speaker 2: mansion of yours?
- 17:04Speaker 1: Ownership? Rent? It's a rental, but we It was funny
- 17:13Speaker 1: when we sort of got to the time of the
- 17:15Speaker 1: evening when all the girls thought they could drop in
- 17:17Speaker 1: on the skate ramp. Yeah, I want to have a
- 17:21Speaker 1: skate I'll got a hold onto them dropping in anyway.
- 17:23Speaker 1: There's only one casualty. She broke w renkle. But that's okay. No.
- 17:27Speaker 1: I suspect she's been on crushes since but she's all right.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Did you set up past past midnight?
- 17:34Speaker 1: I did shit. I was good. I was up till yeah,
- 17:38Speaker 1: all hours of the morning. Friends over and of course,
- 17:40Speaker 1: like your friends over with their kids, turns into the
- 17:44Speaker 1: kids having a sleepover because of their parents too drunk
- 17:46Speaker 1: to drive home. And then we just find we got
- 17:48Speaker 1: plenty of room in the rent in the mansion, in
- 17:52Speaker 1: the rental, so yeah. But then also the problem with
- 17:55Speaker 1: that is a lot of these kids are so little,
- 17:57Speaker 1: they've never had sleepovers at places before, and they're all
- 18:00Speaker 1: in different beds and different rooms and different environments. There
- 18:03Speaker 1: was one kid who woke up every hour on the hour,
- 18:06Speaker 1: just just screaming, and it was just like and then
- 18:10Speaker 1: a parent had to come and be like, didn't put
- 18:12Speaker 1: them in the bedroom with the parent? Well, we were
- 18:14Speaker 1: all up still, they because kids are going to get
- 18:17Speaker 1: a bit earlier, are they, Matt Okay, Yeah, I gotcha. Yeah,
- 18:20Speaker 1: And then like every hour there I go again, because
- 18:22Speaker 1: they was it.
- 18:24Speaker 2: When that kid would like scream and go outside, all
- 18:26Speaker 2: the parents are like, they're trying to drop it on
- 18:28Speaker 2: af fucking half.
- 18:35Speaker 1: Was getting no wonder he was screaming.
- 18:38Speaker 2: He was like, I'm living in the centipedes den.
- 18:40Speaker 1: Anyway, we it was good. What about you? Sorry? How
- 18:43Speaker 1: was your ears?
- 18:44Speaker 2: Yes?
- 18:44Speaker 1: Right, it's a bit overrated, isn't it.
- 18:47Speaker 2: I think? Be too to advocate put it pretty well
- 18:51Speaker 2: when they said you get to an age where you
- 18:53Speaker 2: start to become content with the nine pm fireworks.
- 18:56Speaker 1: Yeah, last last.
- 18:57Speaker 2: Year we like hung on for dear life to midnight.
- 19:02Speaker 2: This year I did it again, and it was the
- 19:04Speaker 2: first time where I was like, yeah, I definitely don't
- 19:07Speaker 2: have to do that every game. It's the same shites
- 19:09Speaker 2: nine o'clock. Of course, the difference if I didn't have
- 19:11Speaker 2: the kids the next morning.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Yeah. April did that thing where she's like, I'm only
- 19:15Speaker 1: staying up for the nine o'clock fireworks, and then she
- 19:18Speaker 1: got the lid when she went to bed at like
- 19:19Speaker 1: two o'clock. I watch.
- 19:22Speaker 2: I got like. We were at my sister's place down
- 19:24Speaker 2: down the South coast and we put on the ABC
- 19:27Speaker 2: looked at the fireworks.
- 19:29Speaker 1: Is it just me?
- 19:30Speaker 2: Does it go on for.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Far too low long? It must be terrible for the environment,
- 19:35Speaker 1: especially when we're all like, are we boomers now? But
- 19:40Speaker 1: all year noise? It's all year we talk about got
- 19:46Speaker 1: to preserve the planet. Do you think we're only talking
- 19:49Speaker 1: about preserving that minute so that we can have a
- 19:51Speaker 1: firework at the end of the years. And they're just like,
- 19:54Speaker 1: fuck this, we did it. We got through another year
- 19:57Speaker 1: and plopping them.
- 20:00Speaker 2: We're in champagne on each other, I know.
- 20:01Speaker 1: And it's like, do we just care for the environmental
- 20:04Speaker 1: use so that we can have that.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Celebration because everyone's everyone's done, even the environmentalists done by
- 20:09Speaker 2: like zero fuck it.
- 20:12Speaker 1: Deal without in January and they come with a new plan.
- 20:16Speaker 1: We actually need to be at net negative one now
- 20:18Speaker 1: because of the fireworks celebration.
- 20:20Speaker 2: We just let off four thousand tons of fireworks worldwide. Meanwhile,
- 20:26Speaker 2: all the animals are like.
- 20:27Speaker 1: Ah, where'd you get a fireways from camera went on
- 20:33Speaker 1: for forever so long they've got like it's like three soundtracks.
- 20:36Speaker 1: I think if you've got it, if it's more than
- 20:38Speaker 1: one soundtrack, one song, one song tuned or is that
- 20:42Speaker 1: just us? And because we're getting deep today it's almost
- 20:46Speaker 1: forty is it just us not being able to pay
- 20:49Speaker 1: attention to something long enough?
- 20:51Speaker 2: Well, I was too tired.
- 20:52Speaker 1: You've got a d D.
- 20:54Speaker 2: So the TN diagnosed the two of us a fireworks
- 20:59Speaker 2: show terrible.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Someone put it really blunt the other day where they like,
- 21:02Speaker 1: what about those people who video the fireworks? Who are
- 21:04Speaker 1: you showing in like shoes like the hell's years look
- 21:10Speaker 1: at this. It's definitely it's definitely our parents generation being
- 21:17Speaker 1: like quick get it and it's always grainy and blurry.
- 21:21Speaker 1: Fireworks look so shit on camera. I know, especially on iPhone.
- 21:27Speaker 1: Ask you, mom, I bet your March has a video
- 21:30Speaker 1: of the TV. It's like, oh memories.
- 21:37Speaker 2: No fuck, I've never gone back and looked at it
- 21:39Speaker 2: New Years? Why do people do that? But I've good idea,
- 21:44Speaker 2: good an idea. I think virtual fireworks. Everyone puts a
- 21:48Speaker 2: VR mask on a planet. That's a great idea.
- 21:51Speaker 1: Save the planet. I say, I.
- 21:53Speaker 2: Reckon, we've got it wrong in terms of Christmas and
- 21:56Speaker 2: New Year, because I reckon, by the time we have Christmas,
- 22:01Speaker 2: like I'm not, I haven't decompressed, I haven't started to
- 22:04Speaker 2: drop a gear because December is very crazy. So I reckon,
- 22:10Speaker 2: I reckon we should flip it because only by like
- 22:14Speaker 2: the second of January, am I starting to really hit
- 22:18Speaker 2: peak relaxation mode. And so I reckon we should have
- 22:22Speaker 2: Christmas on like the third of January.
- 22:25Speaker 1: Okay, And this is why I think your points are valid.
- 22:29Speaker 1: Let me validate you first.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 22:31Speaker 1: Your points are valid, but they're stupid. That reminds me
- 22:36Speaker 1: I think you're onto something there. But then you've you've
- 22:40Speaker 1: ruined it by saying you were just starting to relax
- 22:43Speaker 1: leave it in last year, leave it in the year
- 22:45Speaker 1: behind so like you're saying, if you're getting to relax
- 22:49Speaker 1: on the second and then you're like throw Christmas in there.
- 22:52Speaker 2: Now, you're not gonna have that relaxation.
- 22:54Speaker 1: You're not going to have it because December is going
- 22:56Speaker 1: to be all about still all about it.
- 22:58Speaker 2: So you think it's still best to front load holidays
- 23:01Speaker 2: with the most stressful task of all the most stressful
- 23:03Speaker 2: task of the entire year. Get that done as soon
- 23:06Speaker 2: as you can.
- 23:06Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes this is how it goes, goes stress
- 23:09Speaker 1: December first start there, stressful, right, Yeah. Then between Christmas
- 23:16Speaker 1: and New Year's confusion, peak confusion, peak confusion. What day
- 23:21Speaker 1: is it? What month is it?
- 23:23Speaker 2: Don't care?
- 23:24Speaker 1: Usually is a lot of what's the weather doing today?
- 23:27Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 23:28Speaker 1: Chat? Is there a southerly coming? Did you have that.
- 23:31Speaker 2: Cold day on like the twenty I think it was
- 23:35Speaker 2: the second of Jan cold day and second of Jam.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I wouldn't know when the second of Jan was bro.
- 23:41Speaker 2: So I apologize.
- 23:42Speaker 1: That's I mean confusion followed by relaxation. Today's my favorite day.
- 23:49Speaker 1: The kids have been looked after. It's beautiful, it's perfect. Also,
- 23:53Speaker 1: I had COVID during the confusion.
- 23:55Speaker 2: That's right. I don't care about you and your COVID
- 23:58Speaker 2: story though, But I'm just saying.
- 23:59Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think that's how goo stress, confusion, party,
- 24:06Speaker 1: self reflection, sadness.
- 24:12Speaker 2: And where are we are?
- 24:14Speaker 1: You're on the way back down at Earth, then relaxation.
- 24:18Speaker 2: And that is the holiday sun up by Ashton Wick.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Hey.
- 24:24Speaker 2: I've got a couple of questions, but before we go
- 24:26Speaker 2: into them, I just want to know if you have
- 24:28Speaker 2: any resolutions this year.
- 24:30Speaker 1: Well, no, I did have those silly ones last year.
- 24:34Speaker 1: We're aw dog in this year. I achieved absolutely nothing
- 24:37Speaker 1: last year. You're right, personally, mentally, physically, definitely.
- 24:41Speaker 2: Not anything for this year, anything at all, some balance.
- 24:45Speaker 2: I'm going to put you on the spot and you
- 24:49Speaker 2: have opened up to me about one desire.
- 24:52Speaker 1: One wish, one dream, Okay on stage, Yes, go on,
- 25:00Speaker 1: I'm going to masturbate on stage. Be serious. I can't
- 25:05Speaker 1: be serious, and I was serious. I would love to
- 25:08Speaker 1: get on stage at some point.
- 25:09Speaker 2: I'm here to try and enable that dream. Okay, great,
- 25:13Speaker 2: So I've booked you in shut up resolution for you.
- 25:22Speaker 2: My resolution really, I think for this year.
- 25:28Speaker 1: Is just to.
- 25:28Speaker 2: Survive, survive and also not become. I feel like as
- 25:34Speaker 2: I get older, I get grumpier. I'm more unhappy with people. Okay,
- 25:42Speaker 2: like like turning into a booth, but literally I'm turning
- 25:45Speaker 2: into like when I was at the shops when I
- 25:48Speaker 2: was younger, and you see someone you know, and you'd.
- 25:49Speaker 1: Be like, hey, Jimmy, how are you mate?
- 25:52Speaker 2: And now I'm like, oh fuck, I get back in
- 25:53Speaker 2: the car and I drive home.
- 25:54Speaker 1: I cross over there.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Yeah, like when did this happen? At a moment with
- 25:58Speaker 2: our neighbors across the road so nice. Their daughter is
- 26:02Speaker 2: in my niece's grade, and so like We've got that
- 26:05Speaker 2: connection there. They're in like, yeah, you seem to have
- 26:07Speaker 2: connections everywhere in the ecosystem. They had a you know,
- 26:10Speaker 2: their front lawn is so steep, ye, so they put
- 26:13Speaker 2: a slipping slide down there. They had a dad stand
- 26:16Speaker 2: at the end and was catching the kids as they
- 26:18Speaker 2: would like come off the oh how do you get
- 26:20Speaker 2: that ship job? He was loving ith and so our
- 26:23Speaker 2: kids run across and did it. And that was probably
- 26:27Speaker 2: the most interaction I've had with them for a little while.
- 26:29Speaker 2: And then I like normally, you know, you park the
- 26:32Speaker 2: car and there there and you're like hey, hey, like
- 26:34Speaker 2: the long distance wave and then I came back from
- 26:39Speaker 2: our little trip away down south and I was like,
- 26:41Speaker 2: I think I'm ready for like interaction. Like I went
- 26:46Speaker 2: to go check the mail and they were out of
- 26:48Speaker 2: the front packing their car up, and I was like,
- 26:50Speaker 2: did the long distance wave? And they said Happy New Year?
- 26:53Speaker 2: And I was like, that's that's the invite. I So
- 26:56Speaker 2: I was like, walk down the stairs and I was.
- 27:01Speaker 1: Like, what did you guys do?
- 27:04Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, I just it was just here.
- 27:06Speaker 2: And I could tell that they didn't want They just
- 27:08Speaker 2: wanted a long distance way. And I was like, whor
- 27:11Speaker 2: ay off to and they're like, we're going up north
- 27:15Speaker 2: for a camping trip. And I was like, oh, that's
- 27:17Speaker 2: that's great.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Want to watch the house?
- 27:20Speaker 2: Remind me to take their bins out? Okay, a couple
- 27:26Speaker 2: of questions ash, these are both from us. We haven't
- 27:30Speaker 2: had any questions submitted over the Christmas break. People had
- 27:33Speaker 2: a holiday. That's fine.
- 27:35Speaker 1: People will ask people for questions and get your own questions.
- 27:39Speaker 1: But if you have any questions, please, that's why we're here.
- 27:42Speaker 1: We're not experts.
- 27:42Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll just give you our opinion. Leave it
- 27:47Speaker 2: with a bit of sexual in the window humor. Oh,
- 27:49Speaker 2: there will be sex in there, pepper over the top,
- 27:51Speaker 2: and if that's what you're after, send it in. But
- 27:53Speaker 2: my question is we got Malia bike for Christmas and
- 27:57Speaker 2: the training was it's a bit of a bigger bike
- 27:59Speaker 2: because the guy up sold me the larger size. He
- 28:02Speaker 2: was like, we'll go out of the small one about
- 28:04Speaker 2: six with cup holds. So I got her a bike.
- 28:07Speaker 2: The training wheels they can't quite fit, so they rock.
- 28:11Speaker 1: You want it like that? I'm going to tell you
- 28:13Speaker 1: why continue.
- 28:15Speaker 2: Because every corner she's like all the way over.
- 28:20Speaker 1: But you wanted to rock a bit so that they
- 28:22Speaker 1: can build their own balance.
- 28:23Speaker 2: Okay.
- 28:24Speaker 1: So I then just completely died it. Okay, so shut up.
- 28:29Speaker 1: I've removed them. I removed the train removal. I just
- 28:33Speaker 1: thought someone a guy, the guy at the park, was like.
- 28:38Speaker 2: Is that Jim? What do you want to do is
- 28:41Speaker 2: go to training wheels?
- 28:43Speaker 1: Push him down the stevens you can find And I
- 28:45Speaker 1: was like, you got it.
- 28:46Speaker 2: Old man who smells oh.
- 28:48Speaker 1: Man I've never met before, just given me. It's like,
- 28:51Speaker 1: do you have any kids? He's like nah? I ripped
- 28:54Speaker 1: him off. And how did she go with that? Terrible?
- 28:57Speaker 2: Oh no, terrible? Does osk a rye without training wheels.
- 29:00Speaker 1: No, okay, honestly we had this conversation. The bike's been
- 29:05Speaker 1: phased out. Why you've told me this. You were saying
- 29:08Speaker 1: people are phasing out of the bike because April doesn't
- 29:11Speaker 1: know how to ride a bike. Yeah, we should also
- 29:13Speaker 1: teach it how to ride a bike.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Yes, at the same time with Marley, because there's the
- 29:17Speaker 2: towel technique. Apparently you put a towel across the chest
- 29:22Speaker 2: and so the towel hangs below like behind, and you
- 29:25Speaker 2: then like, oh, you hold on, you hold onto the towel,
- 29:28Speaker 2: and then if they start to fall, you can just
- 29:29Speaker 2: like lift them up with a towel. The towel is
- 29:31Speaker 2: like the safety net.
- 29:32Speaker 1: What if the balance and they balance and then go
- 29:34Speaker 1: head over like towel. Yeah, but that's what I mean.
- 29:37Speaker 1: If you've that your head's heav than your legs, No,
- 29:40Speaker 1: because if you can't fall forward because the towel will
- 29:43Speaker 1: be yank them back.
- 29:44Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But I just wondered if anyone out there
- 29:47Speaker 2: who has any tips. So what's your question, because you're
- 29:53Speaker 2: you're redundant, because you're you have no experience.
- 29:57Speaker 1: Maybe ask what I would do?
- 29:58Speaker 2: What would you do?
- 29:59Speaker 1: I have taught a how to ride a bike before,
- 30:01Speaker 1: but she's forgotten. So that was pretty funny. So what
- 30:03Speaker 1: I did there was go on hit me with it,
- 30:06Speaker 1: sort of gas lighted into it. So I was like,
- 30:10Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here.
- 30:12Speaker 2: In the long distance wave. If there's anyone else out
- 30:16Speaker 2: there who has experienced, we would like to have some
- 30:19Speaker 2: tips on how to teach a child to ride a
- 30:21Speaker 2: bike without training wheels. Yeah, please send them our way,
- 30:24Speaker 2: April Lasso needs them.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Need them more than anyone. Just pretty un coordinated.
- 30:28Speaker 2: Your question.
- 30:29Speaker 1: My question is I talked about the confusing time of
- 30:33Speaker 1: the year, which is between Christmas and news. During that time,
- 30:38Speaker 1: do you send your kids to daycare? If the daycare
- 30:41Speaker 1: is open, of course, which some are. We've worked that out,
- 30:44Speaker 1: do you send them or you do not send them?
- 30:47Speaker 2: Send them?
- 30:48Speaker 1: Fuck off, get out of here. So you had your fun.
- 30:54Speaker 1: We don't.
- 30:56Speaker 2: And that's the reason why you guys are bad parents.
- 31:00Speaker 1: I'm glad someone said it again. It's confusing time of year.
- 31:03Speaker 1: You don't know what day it is, but I think
- 31:05Speaker 1: it must be confusing for your kids because you do
- 31:07Speaker 1: all the celebratory things at the end of the year,
- 31:11Speaker 1: like you have the Christmas party, there's the kid like
- 31:13Speaker 1: Marley would have graduated from the KINDI. But then then
- 31:17Speaker 1: it's like Christmas and then what you just send them straight.
- 31:19Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden they're packing their bags
- 31:21Speaker 2: and being sent out the daycare. It's very confusing.
- 31:23Speaker 1: Is there anyone else there?
- 31:25Speaker 2: We didn't do it this year because we wrapped up,
- 31:27Speaker 2: we've changed daycares. Marla is also going to start school,
- 31:29Speaker 2: so that daycare is done. We did send them on
- 31:33Speaker 2: the twenty fifth, that's Christmas day, bro twenty.
- 31:37Speaker 1: Third, that's Genius twenty third, twenty third, the day before yeah, Christmas,
- 31:44Speaker 1: And there was a couple of kids there.
- 31:45Speaker 2: But last year because at our daycare, they were open
- 31:48Speaker 2: on those dates between Christmas and your year, and we
- 31:51Speaker 2: were enrolled four days a week, and so if the
- 31:54Speaker 2: kids didn't attend, you know, we're paying a giant amount
- 31:57Speaker 2: of money, a shitload if you will, every day per kid,
- 32:01Speaker 2: two of them. So we're like, well, you guys are
- 32:03Speaker 2: going to go because that's money out of our back pocket.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Also meant that Laura and I could have a little
- 32:07Speaker 2: bit of time together. We did like a ten to
- 32:09Speaker 2: three I think.
- 32:11Speaker 1: Yeah, like six am to six. We always yeah, eight to.
- 32:14Speaker 2: Six, and there was like, no kids that and you
- 32:17Speaker 2: do feel guilty, But I.
- 32:18Speaker 1: Think, for about ten seconds, I think, once you've.
- 32:21Speaker 2: Gotten through Christmas as a parent, you deserve a little breather.
- 32:25Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
- 32:26Speaker 2: And the kids are fine. They're actually probably having more
- 32:28Speaker 2: fun at Dacre than they are with you at home
- 32:32Speaker 2: being grumpy and yelling at ch April.
- 32:34Speaker 1: And I had an argument over it because I so
- 32:39Speaker 1: Christmas happened, and then obviously they finished a few days
- 32:43Speaker 1: before Christmas, so we were all together, which is fine.
- 32:47Speaker 1: I guess, you know, family days are down the beach,
- 32:50Speaker 1: but you know, you get annoyed with each other. And
- 32:53Speaker 1: I lost it a little bit because I didn't know
- 32:57Speaker 1: the KINDI was open. They're still in role to go
- 33:00Speaker 1: so I can do casual days here and there if
- 33:02Speaker 1: they have a room. And then I rang a friend
- 33:05Speaker 1: of mine. Their kids go to the same kindy who
- 33:07Speaker 1: my kids play with those kids pretty much every day
- 33:09Speaker 1: outside of Kindy, and I was like, hey, what are
- 33:12Speaker 1: you guys up to today? And he's like, oh, you know,
- 33:15Speaker 1: man Son, my wife were going to make my go
- 33:18Speaker 1: for a walk and grab a coffee and have lunch together.
- 33:20Speaker 1: And I was like where are the kids? He's like,
- 33:21Speaker 1: I've dropped them at Kindy and I was like, are
- 33:24Speaker 1: you fucking for real?
- 33:25Speaker 2: I had no idea.
- 33:26Speaker 1: I had no idea, And I said turned to April
- 33:28Speaker 1: and I was like, guess what Mike and Son's doing today.
- 33:31Speaker 1: They're going to go have lunch together. I have some
- 33:33Speaker 1: time for themselves. Imagine if you were having lunch with them.
- 33:35Speaker 1: And I'm like, my kids are asking to play with
- 33:38Speaker 1: their kids that they're in Kindy. Why are we not
- 33:40Speaker 1: sending our kids to Hindi? And I was like, oh,
- 33:42Speaker 1: I would feel bad. I was like, you're the only
- 33:45Speaker 1: one who feels bad.
- 33:46Speaker 2: Just do a three quarter a day.
- 33:48Speaker 1: We're over here at each other's throats trying to get
- 33:51Speaker 1: the kids organized to go to the beach for the
- 33:53Speaker 1: kids that they hang out with the beach are at
- 33:55Speaker 1: Kindy and even Oscar was like, can I go? Can
- 33:59Speaker 1: I go to Kidney? Literally? Like I could? I was
- 34:03Speaker 1: like yeah, And Abral was like, no.
- 34:06Speaker 2: Send them, no, get rid of them. You'll be a
- 34:10Speaker 2: better parent for it. Oh mark my words, mark them down.
- 34:14Speaker 1: I think we need to normalize sending them. So this
- 34:18Speaker 1: is a call out to all parents listening.
- 34:21Speaker 2: Get rid of your kids.
- 34:23Speaker 1: Not that extreme. I think we need to normalize sending
- 34:28Speaker 1: your kids over that Christmas time. I agree, so that
- 34:30Speaker 1: no mom feels bad, no dabt. There's not a dad
- 34:33Speaker 1: out of that. It feels bad, No parent feels bad.
- 34:37Speaker 1: Well said, thank you before we go. I have a
- 34:39Speaker 1: little gift for you.
- 34:40Speaker 2: Ash we are.
- 34:41Speaker 1: I didn't get you anything, that's fine, Oh.
- 34:44Speaker 2: Yeah, you paid for this with me a minute?
- 34:48Speaker 1: Oh with you, you're like, I've got a gift for
- 34:50Speaker 1: you that you've paid for sound like my wife.
- 34:54Speaker 2: We have had another attempt at merch. We are both
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- 35:10Speaker 1: These are I'm a big hat guy whoa hello, doting mom,
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- 35:21Speaker 1: soved them myself.
- 35:21Speaker 2: Yeah, it took a very long time all Christmas in
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- 35:28Speaker 2: We're just we're teasing your we're edging you guys that
- 35:30Speaker 2: would that came through as he is. That was just
- 35:33Speaker 2: before Christmas. A great little gift that arise on my doorstep.
- 35:37Speaker 1: Ash.
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- 36:09Speaker 1: Well said, thank you, it's good here. I spent the
- 36:18Speaker 1: extensive time with Vietnamese Robin TOAs thank you anyway, so
- 36:25Speaker 1: I got the roles Vietnamese. They do an amazing breath.
- 36:28Speaker 2: You do that again, and I'm fucking playing what I'm
- 36:30Speaker 2: pulling the cord on the podcast if I do what
- 36:33Speaker 2: make these sexual innuendo jokes.
- 36:36Speaker 1: I just got to get them out. Once they're out,
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