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AEW Redemption Fallout · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine Ignition six five four three two one zero
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  Speaker 1: All engine running.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: Ignition with the aw Fadhab podcast team. This is Kelson
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  Speaker 2: and we're coming off of a W redemption on Sunday night.
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  Speaker 2: It was Sunday, wasn't it, guys. I can't tell anymore
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  Speaker 2: what day it is, and it's it's weird. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow night, Wednesday night, we are doing AW Dynamite, AW CLA.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: Are they taping both of these shows on the same
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  Speaker 2: night already, actually doing two nights in Detroit, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as anybody know.
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  Speaker 3: I think they are doing both nights, but I'm not
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  Speaker 3: sure I.
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  Speaker 2: See, Okay, So anyway, just keep in mind. I'm sorry
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  Speaker 2: I was reading the chat and kind of got distracted. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: keep in mind that AW Dynamite will air at its
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  Speaker 2: normal time this week from Detroit, Michigan on Wednesday night
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  Speaker 2: at APM Eastern time, but Thursday AW Collision or airs
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  Speaker 2: this week on again on Thursday at APM Eastern time,
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  Speaker 2: all right, and then after Dynamite Tomorrow night. Just want
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  Speaker 2: to give everybody a reminder to go ahead and tune
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  Speaker 2: in to the EPW Show at EPW show on YouTube
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  Speaker 2: for Conrad and Derek and their AE Dynamite review show.
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  Speaker 2: They generally start that show pretty close to right after
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  Speaker 2: Dynamite ends, So I would say like ten minutes and
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  Speaker 2: it's really a fun show, So go ahead and give
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  Speaker 2: it a listen and just an interactive, very interactive and
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  Speaker 2: it's a lot of fun. And Val, you were going
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  Speaker 2: to talk to us about a special AW dynamite that's
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  Speaker 2: coming out.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, Hello, everyone, this is Val So. AW announced earlier
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  Speaker 3: this week that they will do a very special dynamite
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  Speaker 3: it's called AW Rebel Heart Dynamite September ninth from Atkinsford
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  Speaker 3: Arena in Athens, Georgia, in support of aw's Rebel, who
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  Speaker 3: was diagnosed with ALS in March twenty six. If her
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  Speaker 3: health is good fingers crossed, she is scheduled to make
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  Speaker 3: a special appearance at that show. A donation will be
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  Speaker 3: made by ae W for im Als and Team Gleeson
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  Speaker 3: to very very good organization that promotes and support people
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  Speaker 3: with als. So tickets will go on sale this coming Friday,
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  Speaker 3: July July thirty. First. Sorry, there's official Rebel Heart shirts
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  Speaker 3: and bracelet. They are available on shop aw dot com,
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  Speaker 3: with one hundred percent of the profit going to im
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  Speaker 3: als and Team Gleason. If you want to donate, you
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  Speaker 3: can go to this website aewtogether dot com slash Rebel Heart.
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  Speaker 3: So I can't wait for that special episode of Dynamite.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be a little bit emotional. So our hearts
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  Speaker 3: goes out to Rebel and for that, let's talk Redemption.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, speaking of redemption value, you had the pleasure of
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  Speaker 4: not only going to Redemption but enjoying the all elite experience. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: now I know with that. There, I know with that
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  Speaker 4: there's two different levels to that. Which one did you get?
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  Speaker 3: I got the Champion, I got the Champion.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, what you get with that one?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you arrive early first, so you go around two
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  Speaker 3: hours before the show starts, before they open the doors.
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  Speaker 3: So there was a little miscommunication about the hour that
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  Speaker 3: we were supposed to come in. So the email that
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  Speaker 3: I got, I would say it was supposed to come
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  Speaker 3: by five pm, and the show started at se with
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  Speaker 3: all that was supposed to be that we were supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be doing, taking pictures and having a Q and
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  Speaker 3: A and all that, Like five pm, it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to cut it, so I tried to reach them and
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  Speaker 3: never got a reply, which kind of which was like
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  Speaker 3: a bummer. So when I arrived on site, I arrived
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  Speaker 3: at around two PM because I wanted to be sure
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  Speaker 3: that I was there on time. And I spoke to
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  Speaker 3: a few other people who got the package as well,
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  Speaker 3: and they said, oh, we got another email saying it's
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  Speaker 3: at fours, like thank god, but I never got the email.
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  Speaker 3: So with that comes the early entrance. You can go
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  Speaker 3: to the merchandise stand to purchase any shirt that was
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  Speaker 3: available there, and then you had access also to take
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  Speaker 3: pictures with personalities. With aw personalities, it could have been
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  Speaker 3: either a wrestler or personality, but for us it was
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  Speaker 3: like two rough that was there with us and an
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  Speaker 3: access to a Q and A with some some wrestlers.
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  Speaker 4: So some good, but you're mostly good. A little miscommunication,
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  Speaker 4: but overall I'm assuming you had a lot of fun,
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  Speaker 4: Yes you and your daughter?
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  Speaker 3: Yes I did.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 3: I brought my seventeen year old daughter with me, so
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  Speaker 3: that it was our second time going with me to
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  Speaker 3: a wrestling show. So the first time she was around ten.
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  Speaker 3: Now she's seventeen. But she had a blast and I
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  Speaker 3: watched the replay yesterday and then I finished it today
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  Speaker 3: and at the opening of the show, which was the
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  Speaker 3: ladder match. At the opening of the show, I saw
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  Speaker 3: her on TV and I show it to her and
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  Speaker 3: was like, Oh, that's so cool. I'm on TV and
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  Speaker 3: they cut it right at her. I was just next
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  Speaker 3: to her, so they didn't show my face, but she
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  Speaker 3: was there on TV and she thought it was cool.
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  Speaker 1: And I got a question, that is, what what in
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  Speaker 1: terms of seating, what does champion get you versus the
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  Speaker 1: regular all elite experience.
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  Speaker 3: The all elites? Uh, it's ring side, and you can
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  Speaker 3: also get a voucher for a food which I didn't get.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a twenty percent reduction on on on the food.
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  Speaker 3: And then also you can take a picture ringside. Where
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  Speaker 3: where is the ramp with the aw World Championship I believe,
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  Speaker 3: but a I got a picture with the unified title,
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  Speaker 3: which is cool.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So the elite is like the yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But we arrive at the same time. We arrive at
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  Speaker 3: the same time. No, they were fifteen minutes ahead of us,
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  Speaker 3: that's right, So they were fifteen minutes ahead of us.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe just to let them, you know, do their stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and then we arrive at four, but you know, we
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  Speaker 3: entered the arena at the same time as everybody else,
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  Speaker 3: but the elite got into their separate ways with a
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  Speaker 3: coordinator and then go to ringside and take pictures.
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  Speaker 4: So that's very cool. You know, it sounds like quite
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  Speaker 4: the experience it is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm eyeing some full gear tickets myself, so.
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  Speaker 5: It's good to hear.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean that's not until November. Let's let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about Redemption a little bit. I wanted to get y'all's
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  Speaker 1: opinions thoughts on like an overall overall show experience, you know,
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  Speaker 1: at home or I mean Valve between all of us,
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  Speaker 1: you were the only one in the state. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what did y'all think about Redemption?
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was a good show overall. I'd give
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  Speaker 4: it a seven out of ten, seven and a half.
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  Speaker 4: Those those three opening matches were freaking fantastic. The first
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  Speaker 4: three matches of the show were just like, honestly, I
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  Speaker 4: think the best part of the show for me. There
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  Speaker 4: wasn't anything that I didn't that I just you know, like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I hated that I thought the pain Maker psycho Killer
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  Speaker 4: could have been about five minutes shorter. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: don't think a tag team chain match works. It's just
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  Speaker 4: too it's just awkward. Other than those things, though, I
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  Speaker 4: enjoyed the show overall. It was a fun, entertaining watch
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  Speaker 4: the matches that were predictable. I enjoyed the journey of
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  Speaker 4: the matches.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of agree, Well, don't you what.
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  Speaker 2: Did you think? I want to agree? What you think?
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  Speaker 5: You know?
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  Speaker 1: I honestly kind of put it lower, especially thinking about
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  Speaker 1: Aw's reputation with pay per views. It I think it
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  Speaker 1: lived up to the filler pay per view prediction that
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  Speaker 1: we all had before, which it's I don't think is
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  Speaker 1: a bad thing. I nothing was like, oh this is
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  Speaker 1: a major stinker. But overall, matches without build, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for a good match. I don't need
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  Speaker 1: that much of a build. But this is maybe the
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  Speaker 1: only time that I've thought this is too long of
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  Speaker 1: a pay per view. I'm all about getting my money's
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  Speaker 1: worth with a pay per view. I don't care if
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  Speaker 1: it goes six hours, except for this one. This one
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  Speaker 1: kind of I felt dragged a little bit. I do
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  Speaker 1: agree the first three matches were kind of the high
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  Speaker 1: spot and the main event, but other than that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: everything just seemed kind of kind of draggy. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's in part to some of the lineup that we
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  Speaker 1: have as champions and just some of the matches.
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  Speaker 5: That we got.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I don't think a five out of
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  Speaker 1: five is like, oh, that's terrible. I think in the
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  Speaker 1: scope of aw pay per views, I think it's it's
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  Speaker 1: just less than what we're used to, but overall, not
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  Speaker 1: terribly bad.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hear your thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I said, you know, seven out of ten. A
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  Speaker 4: lot of stuff I liked, a few things I wasn't
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  Speaker 4: a big fan of, but overall could show.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, well, I kind of agree. So seven out
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  Speaker 3: of ten. There's two matches that I didn't like watching
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  Speaker 3: it live, and then I watched the replay just to
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  Speaker 3: be sure that it was what I felt when I
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  Speaker 3: was at the at the Bell Center, and that was
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  Speaker 3: exactly the same, the same feeling I got. So the
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  Speaker 3: first three matches were incredible, incredible. So that was the
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  Speaker 3: highlight for me for for the for the show a
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  Speaker 3: little bit long, obviously, but that's what I That's what
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  Speaker 3: I said to myself, if I go there, it's going
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  Speaker 3: to probably finish at eleven maybe midnight. Thank god he
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: Tony decided to start at seven not eight, because it
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  Speaker 3: would have been home like by two am, so that
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  Speaker 3: would have been like crazy. But it was good.
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  Speaker 2: I loved it.
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  Speaker 3: The crowd was great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's one of the things that kind
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  Speaker 2: of again, when you're looking at the crowd and when
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  Speaker 2: you're listening to the crowd. There were a couple of
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  Speaker 2: matches where the crowds were yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was wondering if it was a.
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  Speaker 3: Thing personally, Like Chris mentioned the Dog versus j and Juice.
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  Speaker 3: For me, the match was like not going to cut
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  Speaker 3: it for me, and the crowd was like very very silent.
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  Speaker 3: And then Sheeta versus Maya as well, the crowd was
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  Speaker 3: like not in it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of noticed that. Well, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: I do want to say something before I give you
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  Speaker 2: my thoughts in that AW is known for the pay
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  Speaker 2: per views that they put on. Let's just face it,
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  Speaker 2: you can't beat an AAW pay per view. If this
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  Speaker 2: pay per view was on any other company, it would
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  Speaker 2: have been excellent, But this is AW and it's held
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  Speaker 2: to higher standards as such. I give this. I'm struggling.
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  Speaker 2: I've been waffling between four and a half and five
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  Speaker 2: out of ten. So I'm just going to go four
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  Speaker 2: point seven five out of ten because there were some
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  Speaker 2: stuff in this pay per view that I really liked, loved,
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  Speaker 2: and there was stuff that I was just set. There
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  Speaker 2: was like I was struggling to pay attention and I
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  Speaker 2: hated the endings too.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into that in our next segment. But one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that we do already know, unless something
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  Speaker 2: very odd happens, is that it will be Kenny Omega
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  Speaker 2: versus Will Osprey at all in London forty eight and
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  Speaker 2: w Men's World Championship. And I'm curious to ask you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious to hear from the audience and everything. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, fly Boy did say what's up cichos and
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  Speaker 2: where's my ciccos at? You know, and I put it
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  Speaker 2: up on the screen, but I didn't didn't read it
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  Speaker 2: when I put it up on the screen. Wolf is
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  Speaker 2: in the chat saying what's up Van hubb And and
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  Speaker 2: he did. He also said that you know, it's funny
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  Speaker 2: how seven out of ten paper you would be an
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  Speaker 2: eight or ten or ninety ten in any other promotion.
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  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what I'm saying. But anyway, let's get
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  Speaker 2: back to the task at hand. Kenny Omega, Will Osprey
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  Speaker 2: it all in. What are you guys feeling about this match? Excited,
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  Speaker 2: not excited, kind of stuck in the middle. What's your idea?
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited, I'm sorry, I'm I'm off.
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  Speaker 2: Well why are you saying that you're sorry? Because are
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  Speaker 2: you well?
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  Speaker 3: Some people Will would probably love to see MJF going
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: at it as well, so maybe a three way, but
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  Speaker 3: my heart is fully, fully into it after what I
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  Speaker 3: saw Sunday night, so I didn't I never thought that
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  Speaker 3: I would see what Kenny did to Will at the end.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it would be the other the other way around.
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  Speaker 3: So I was kind of surprised. But I was jumping, jumping, jumping,
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  Speaker 3: and my daughter was looking at me. It's like, Mama,
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  Speaker 3: what's happening? And I tried to explain a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of the storyline and she understood a little bit. But
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  Speaker 3: it made for me, It made it made sense for
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  Speaker 3: Kenny to do. And I went online and talked to
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  Speaker 3: some of my friends that I have on Twitter, I'm
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  Speaker 3: sorry on ex and they were like, is it a
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  Speaker 3: heel turn? Is it not? And some of them said yes,
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  Speaker 3: some of them say no, and my head says no.
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  Speaker 3: But I kind of understand what he did.
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  Speaker 6: It's it was a call back, yeah, said Will Osprey
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  Speaker 6: like his hero AJ style, because.
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  Speaker 4: That is exactly what Kenny did to AJ when he
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: ticked him out of the Bullet Club. He had him
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  Speaker 4: get up on the corner and celebrate and went up
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  Speaker 4: bo hit the one wing.
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  Speaker 3: I saw the video, I was like, oh, I thought
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  Speaker 3: I saw that somewhere and was like, yes, that made sense.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely not, absolutely not a heel turned.
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  Speaker 1: I think this deepens Osprey because this is who Max
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  Speaker 1: has been telling Osprey to be, and Kenny is the
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  Speaker 1: one who you know, is that guy right now, and
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  Speaker 1: he's that guy because he will pull the trigger. It's
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  Speaker 1: also a bit of a receipt, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's like a big one told you so, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: why are you dealing with these guys? So the only
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  Speaker 1: thing that I may give that's kind of heelish is
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: the flex with the young bucks at the end hitting
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  Speaker 1: the elite pose. That seems like, okay, you're a little
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  Speaker 1: insult to injury. But the win winged angel I thought
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  Speaker 1: was beautiful. I almost turned it off because you know,
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  Speaker 1: they were just celebrating. I was actually walking up to
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  Speaker 1: to turn off the TV and then it happened, And
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad it worked out that way, But I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's a he'll turn it's and.
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  Speaker 5: We have another month.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, I'm sold on the match, and there's
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  Speaker 1: still a whole other month for them to you know,
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  Speaker 1: kind of deal with each other backstage and in the ring.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think this is gonna be more
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  Speaker 4: of a face face match, but being in Wimbley, Osprey's
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  Speaker 4: gonna have more of the crowd initially behind him, So
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Kenny won't work full on heel, but he'll definitely work
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  Speaker 4: more heal with than normal because you know, the fans
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  Speaker 4: are gonna here for both of them, but Osprey's still
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: the hometown and got.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say this, if this
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  Speaker 2: was not at all in, if this, if this was
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  Speaker 2: at all out, if this was at any other aw
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  Speaker 2: pay per view, this match would happen on DYNA. Wait,
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  Speaker 2: this would this is not a pay per view match?
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  Speaker 2: This is this is not a pay per view match,
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  Speaker 2: And I say that No, Well, okay, when did will
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  Speaker 2: Osprey come back from his uh in relation to the
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  Speaker 2: owen Hart Tournament, he came back from his injury a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks before the own Heart tournament began. As soon
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  Speaker 2: as he came back, every single person and if you
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  Speaker 2: if you deny this is the truth, then you're lying.
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  Speaker 2: And I honestly believe that when will Osprey came back
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  Speaker 2: from his nec fusion surgery before the participants in the
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  Speaker 2: Owen Heart, before the own Hart was even announced, we
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  Speaker 2: knew that will Osprey was going to all in and
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: he was going to win the aw World Championship in
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: front of his home crowd. Period. That's it. It kind
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  Speaker 2: of made Osprey's run. Thank goodness for John Moxley and
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: the Death Riders who are putting a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a spit on it. But there's no way Omega's going
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  Speaker 2: to win this match. Will Osprey is going to win
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  Speaker 2: this match, and it's going to be a complete waste
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  Speaker 2: of several months unless you're just you know, it just
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  Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense to me. This is absolutely poor
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  Speaker 2: booking in my opinion. As far as the older, I'm
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: not saying it's poor booking putting him in, putting Osprey
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  Speaker 2: in the in the all in match for the World Championship,
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  Speaker 2: but the whole owen Hart tournament was a waste. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Sure it had some banger matches, but I've always said
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  Speaker 2: you have to have banger matches just for the sake
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  Speaker 2: of having banger matches. Meets is meaningless to me. It
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: has to be a point to it. And I'm sorry
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  Speaker 2: this this is awful.
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  Speaker 5: I think this is what I literally have.
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  Speaker 2: No interest in watching this match. Zero interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Use the same analygy I've been using for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I know Superman is going to beat Lex Luthor, but
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I enjoy seeing how he does it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we've talked about predictability isn't always bad,
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  Speaker 1: and we're getting exactly what we talked about for months.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but see, look Conrad Cushman from the EPW Show.
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  Speaker 2: That's just one of his favorite lines when we talked privately,
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  Speaker 2: is like, predictability isn't always bad. But what you're saying
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: predictability isn't always bad two three, four times a week,
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  Speaker 2: then you kind of got to say predictability is bad.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: If it's that bad, you know, if you're saying that
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: that often, it's bad, and this is bad I'm sorry,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: it's bad.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: We do have will Osprey completely on his own now. Yeah,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: before he had the Death Riders, and now he's lost
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: their trust. He's lost Kenny's trust, you know who. He's
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: got a month to kind of vent for himself.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Well, Kenny has really been on his own, you know,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: up until you know, the the elite just kind of
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: got back in his corner. And Austbury's not has been
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: on his own for a while before this. So Joy Chris,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say. Now Osprey, you know he may
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: not even really have United Empire. I mean, right now,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: for sure he doesn't because you know, Callum Newman's Rake Lee,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: all the Great Oakcloumn they're busy in the t one,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: but they're kind of pissed because it's like they came
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: and fought for him against the Death Riders and then
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: he's like, okay, well now I'm gonna go kill him
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: these guys of the Horrible.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: That really was bad. Oh God, I'm sorry, go ahead
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: to to you. We're gonna say something.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean I kind of send most of
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: my piece. I guess will Osbury being completely alone. Now
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: there's still a month left you know who knows what happens.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: And the whole thing with Mox is about him kind
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: of leveling up and becoming a killer because he hasn't been.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: He's had world championship matches and lost him he hasn't
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: held this title, you know, and this is kind of
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: his last or or this is putting him in a
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: position to evolve into that killer. You know, Mox has
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: done it a couple of times. He knows what it takes,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: so you know, now now he's he's got to crack
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the code by himself. That finally see.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: But I'm not getting when you're I'm not getting what
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: you guys are saying about being alone and stuff. This
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: is a complete service match. Will Osbury doesn't He could
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: go out there with two broken arms and two broken
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: legs and kpabe and still winning this match. It's a
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: fan service match. Will Osprey's gonna win period. There's no
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: ifs or buts about it. Can I disagree? This is
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: like the most there's no way to Kenny Omega's winning
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: this match. Zero I disagree If Kenny. If Kenny Omega
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: wins this match is if it's if the plan is
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: for Kenny Omega to win this match. May God strike
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: every one of you dead, right now. That's that's an
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: old George Carlin joke. But you're still here. See nothing happened.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not dead.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not dead. Will Ospray's winning this match. Kenny
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Omega might as well just not show off. Seriously, this
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: is going to be a banger for the sake of
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: a banger, that's all it is. And it's a fan
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: service match.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: And I say that a year from now, people aren't
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: going to rem er, oh, will Ostpray beat Kenny Omega.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: They're gonna remember Will Osprey and Kenny Omega ahead one
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: of the greatest wrestling matches of all fing talent.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: That may be the case, and I hope it is,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: but I'm just saying that a banker match for the
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: sake of having a banger match means nothing when it's
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: so predictable. Let's move on because we if go ahead,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: what if Ken.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Didn't beat JF and we were having m JF versus Osprey,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I would.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Have picked Will one hundred percent.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say, yeah, go ahead. I mean he
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: did say Kelson, but valid go ahead and answer for me.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Well, if if it was MJF versus Well, I would
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: have picked Will one hundred percent for sure. But from
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: my perspective what I saw, what I saw in the
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: demeanor of Kenny being like he's ready, he's the cleaner,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: he's the best bout machine against And I even put
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: out a tweet with picture of Kenny with the belt
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: after the match, and I said that he's ready, the
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: cleaner is going to take out the assassin. That's what
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I said.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: So that's my prediction, okay. And to answer the question,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: it could be seventeen on one. Will Osprey is still
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: winning that match. It doesn't matter who you've been out
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: there and who It doesn't matter how many Kenny Omegas,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: John Moxley's, Kyle Fletcher's, whoever you put in this match.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: It could be ten, fifteen, twenty people from AAW or
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: other companies whatever. Will Osprey is winning the World Championship
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: at all. In it makes no sense. What's wherever for
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: him not to It just doesn't. It's a fan service match,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: that's all this is. It's a glorified exhibition that the
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: results are already in the books. And believe me, I
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: hope I am wrong. I hope I am wrong and
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: that Kenny beats will Osbury. But I don't think I
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: am because it is what it is. But I do
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: want to move on. I do want to move on
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: because we now have a new aw Women's World Champion,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: and I want to know what you guys.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Think about this decision.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, Dounji.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: I want to start off with saying I love Willow.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: She is fantastic, She's fine, she's great in the ring
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: like I'm working a door Willow, but I vehemently disagree
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: with this decision. Techlas should have retained.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: I just.
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: Forget the fact even you know, setting aside the fact
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: that tech has been a fantastic champion and just absolutely
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: freaking has that it factor.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: We are either getting another transitional champion or we're saying
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: these monet losing two years in a row in the
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: women's title match at all win like neither one of
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: those are good thing, right, Okay, Well.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Tunci.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I will say the same thing that I said about
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: MJF a couple of weeks ago about Tecla. I think
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Tecla has plenty of story outside of the Women's World
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Championship that you know. I think that's why this happened.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I see the artists of stardom championships being defended, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: that's why she dropped the Women's World Championship. As far
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: as Willow, I'll be honest, Willow kind of does not
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: move the needle for me. I like a character with
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: a little more edge.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I'm exactly what Techla said about Willow in the promo
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: last week. You know, I don't like an all smiles,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: happy go. Look, she's kind of John. She's two thousand
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and six John Cena, you know. So I don't. I
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: don't particularly like it. I think she retains it all
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: in begrudgingly, just because I think that's where Mercedes Monet
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: story gets deeper. I'm kind of fifty fifty to fifty
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: on that prediction.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't. I didn't love this to a degree.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I think it makes sense, but you know, the women's
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: generally kind of.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I posted one word on social media when I saw
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: when this match ended. I put this graphic up with
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: the one word, and it was terrible. This is terrible.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Technic kept this women's division afloat. She did her best,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: she and she was good at it. Promos, tag matches,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: multi women matches title defenses, and she's not going to
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: get the defender title at at all in. And I
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: say her title because I honestly look at this as
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: this is still techless title and Willow Nightingale was borrowing it.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: If Willow Nightingale is still the champion going into all in,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I will absolutely not watch this match, just on the
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: principle of it. This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Now people were saying people were saying that if Techland won,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: she would have gone into all in and it would
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: have been a heel versus heel match. Okay, well, going
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: into all in, it was going to be will Ospray
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: and Kenny o'meghan, a face versus base match because nobody
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: believed that he that will Osprey was a heel, right,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: and you saw quickly that was remedied at the very
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: end of Redemption with what Kenny Omega did it. It
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: doesn't take a full heel turn. It just takes a
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: little bit of a seed of doubt. And that's exactly
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: what they did. That was really well done. So this
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: is just a this is we've already seen this match.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Willow doesn't deserve to be in this match. I am sorry.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I say it like it is. This is awful, This
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: is terrible, and.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I completely agree one hundred percent with you calson Ondez.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think something that maybe aw you know, constructive criticism.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: They're holding on to the tiniest thread of story and
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: making it happen again for the sake of something. I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: don't think, you know, a an injury in a New
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Japan Strong Women's Championship match years ago warrants this. You know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: there's a couple more examples, but you know, just talking
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: about this one, they're kind of beating this one to death.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: They had good, good chemistry.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Uh like when Willow won back the TVs title, But
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you know, this is another one that's just kind of
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: a match for a match heel versus heel and then
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: on the mens side, face versus face. I think would
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: have been a fun, fun kind of twist to everything.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: To people are saying and I'm like, you know that
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Tekla is going to be going face.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: So I think Tekla is kind of turning that corner
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: people are. She gets the MJF pop where people initially
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: exactly and then they remember like, oh, we're not supposed.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: To exactly they appreciate her.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say on the the whole face face,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: he'll face. It is a lot easier to do face
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: face because then you're giving the fans two options. It's
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: here for when you go heal, heal, It's like, Okay,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: we don't like either of these two. Who the heck
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: are we supposed to root for now? In this case,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Tecla is almost Tekla is essentially a tweener at this point,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Like she she does heal accents, but she's getting a
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: face reaction. It's you know, it's comparable to how how
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Eddie Guerrero used to be uh and Nito he got
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: the same thing. MJF. You know, he's a he's a
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: districally scumbag deal, but he's still our scumbag. So that
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: is one deal. I will say where I don't think
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: he'll heal would have been an issue with Tecla versus
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: I think it also.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Goes back the unfortunate just series of events with Tony Storm, uh,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the the mixing around of the Women's Own Heart Tournament.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I think this is just a product of injuries and
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: unforeseen circumstances, and you know, you kind of roll with
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the punches. Yeah, he could have done more with it.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: The whole thing was as stupid to me. I mean,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I said it last week. Willow gave up the or
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: vacated the TVs Championship due to injury. They made a
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: tournament out of it, well, qualifiers out of it for
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the uh you know, to to do whatever they did
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: to get the crowd to do TVs Champion. I can't
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: even remember how they did. Was it the Casino Gauntlet
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: that they did? Yeah, the Survival Survival the Fittis. Okay,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: they had the qualifiers to get into the Survival of
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: the Fitness always half right. But the point is is
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: that the Survival of the Fittis match was on July first.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Willow got her title shot on July eighth, one week later.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: What was the point of that? None?
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Zero?
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Pathetic, horrible booking fan service. This is terrible. I encourage
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: nobody to watch this match because it's a stupid match.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry that the way I feel. Well, let's move
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: on to something more positive, at least for me, it
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: is maybe you guys will hate this, but we have
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: a new national champion and that's on Joddy l Idelo.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: What did you guys think of how you know, how
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: do you like this? How do you like this match
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: with Mark Davis? And this is one of those where
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: we really don't know what's going We know that Osprey
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: and Omega is gonna happen, we know that Willow and
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Mercedes is gonna happen, we don't really know for sure
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: what's going to happen with androdi l Iglo. What did
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: you think of this match of redemption? And also what
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: do you think it's next for Andrede.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I've really enjoyed the match. I loved Andrade starting off
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: with the h that crazy spinning elbow he does and
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: like just going for the pin right away, Like I
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: wish more matches would you know, start hot like that
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: with someone being smart and like going for a big
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: move right away. Mark Davis was a really good National champion.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Against the great matches, this was another one I thought
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: it really showed both guys strengths and it was a
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: match where I wasn't sure how those two were gonna
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: match up, and I was very pleasantly surprised. As for
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: what's next for on Droday, I honestly don't know. That's
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: a that's one of thought I was like, there's multiple
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: paths I could see him taking, and I don't know
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: which is the most interesting.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll see something tomorrow night with Andrade and see
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: what that path will hold. Who else wants to talk
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: about this match?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I thought the match was good, you know, nothing nothing
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: right home about. I don't really like that he won
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the national title, mainly because I at this point, I
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: don't know what the identity of the national title is.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a kind of younger guy, lower
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: mid card title. If they're trying to beef it up
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: with Andrade, you know that's cool, but you know you
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: got Jack Perry and and Mark Davis as the previous holders.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: You know what what is that really?
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: And and well, I would put Ricochet and androde on
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: the same on the same playing field. But as far
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: as what's next for him, he's he keeps wearing that
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: diamond ring. I think it's inevitable that MJF is going
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: to be a little upset about that. I see I
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: see a feud with m JF coming, But it kind
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: of goes back to the previous thing. What is it
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: going to be for the for the World Championship? Is
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: it just like, give me my ring back or not
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: the world champions but the national title.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: But you know, now you got.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Two top guys with a lower mid card title. You
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: know that's a little screwy to me too, but you know,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: let's let's let it play out.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm happy for Rade. The match was was great
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: to watch. Did did you guys realize that he has
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: a new theme song?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: By the way, yes, people were talking about and not.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Liking and not well thank you.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I thought I was the only one. Thank you, Kelson.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not liking it one day either.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: I definitely preferred the Yeah.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was. It was fun to watch and
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: again he decided to unzip and the crowd when nuts.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: And you know, was that you Chris who said that
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: he started with like his big finish or something.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Not a big finish, but uh that like running boot
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: into the.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Spinning because that reminded me the match between John Moxley
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: and Will ospread Dynasty, because Will started with the with
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: his hidden blade right off the bat. It was like bam,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: So that that's what That's what has been my me
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: of So yeah, it was. It was great. It was great.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: I love what.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: What what do you think is next?
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know. No, I don't know, really don't.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Uh, well here I do have an idea. Uh, Androtti
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: just left the don Kallis family, so he's got some
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: enemies there. Grand Slam Mexico is right around the corner,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: like a week and a half away or something like that,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: isn't it. Well it's like next week and isn't it.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: But yeah, anyway, Uh, he'll be a Grand Slam Mexico
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: defind defending the national title, which is what you're supposed
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: to do. You're this is a championship that you're supposed
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: to defend in other promotions, they're going to be in
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: CMLL and uh, you got at Cerro right there. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: believe you're going to see Androti and Atso at Grand
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Slam Mexico.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, please please, yes.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I yoso.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: It seems like when you Dallas, whereas you get jumped
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: into gangs, you get jumped out, just like will Ospray
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: two years ago.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: And right, I mean, of course, you know, I'm usually
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: go to Sarah as an example. Could also be el Klhone,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: who was also part of the don Kallis family, and
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Volador Junior, who is also part of the don Kallis
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: family on the Mexico division, so it would.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Be good with any of those. But I do love.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. But anyway, let's move on because we had
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: yet another title change that was Maya World winning the
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: AEWTBS Championship. I've got to go ahead and give my
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: opinion on this first. First things first, I was very
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: very happy to see Maya World get this title because
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: for two reasons. One is I like Maya World a lot,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: and two I do believe the TBS Championship with Mercedes
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: and then Willow, it's been elevated tired, and it should
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: be This should be more for a mid card area,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: in my opinion. So now that my World has got it,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: she I'm hoping that she will now work to elevate
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: the mid cards. The bad part about this this match
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: was terrible. Karlshida and and My World had no chemistry together.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: It was like watching like they were like fighting in mud.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry it was and I didn't like the match
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: at all, but I am glad that my World.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say terrible, but yeah, their lack of chemistry
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: was definitely apparent. It was a little plunky at times.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: I predicted to win, and I have never been more
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: happy to be wrong. I also really like my old
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Worlds is great. Also, she's from Dallas, so you know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: got a teer for I'm I'm excited to see what
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: she does with his typer.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I tell him the same way you feel about Willow
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: winning the World Championship, and.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: This is how I felt about this result.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I while I do agree the TVs Championship should be
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: a mid card title, and I think someone of my
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: world's age and experience, you know, this is kind of
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: what that's for. So in that regard, that's cool. However,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like she's too new and I know that's
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: what people are saying, but I don't think and I'm
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: sorry the whole the tragedy with her brother, that's awful,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: and you know, nothing against that. I just don't know
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: that that has the legs that everybody thinks it does.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: You know, how how long that's fair? How long did
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: it take.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: For us to get tired of Darby talking about Mount Everest?
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: You know, And it's kind of the same thing. Obviously,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: this is a tragedy, and you know, I'm not taking
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: it lightly, but it's you know, where does that go
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: after that? You know, it's are we trying to do
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: and you know, taking it back to two thousand and five,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: two thousand and six again, I'm sorry, but this isn't
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Ray Mysterio and Eddie Guerrero. You know this is this
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: is a.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: It's a bit different.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I think she put on a great match with Mercedes.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I was there at Forbidden Door and that was a
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: heavy match. It was awesome, But you know, you're putting
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: on a banger match with Mercedes Monette legit one of
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: the best in the world, men's or women's.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: So I don't know, shout out my world for winning.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I think it is awesome as a character and you know,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: as a as a fan of the show, I guess uh,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know how far that really takes it. And
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: she'da was the most interesting she's ever been. Why, you know,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: why are we taking that away from her? Or maybe
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: maybe it makes her more interesting? I don't know, but
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I wasn't particularly happy with this one.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Now I'm very very quiet because I have a lot
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: to say and I will try to do it in
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: a very very short time manner. I was very very
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: upset about the about the match. I said a little
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: bit at the beginning of the show that I didn't
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: like it, and I felt watching it on replay as well.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: So I'm happy for Maya because it was her birthday
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: on Sunday, So happy birthday, Maya. But I was not
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: happy with with the with the way that the title
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: changed Corse sheet. She still has the record for the
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: shortest reign of the ae W Women's World title, and
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: now she has the shortest reign for the TVs title.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: I'm maybe she'd'll be maybe she'd will beat Willow Nightingale
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: and and that streak this week on collision or something.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: That I would be very happy, but that would be
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: like another tradition transitional champion, and I don't like it.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Right, Well, let's move on.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I think we do have one more thing. I think
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: it will set up a more almost developmental women scene,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you know. I feel like there's a gap between some
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: of the women and just like the lower card, arguably
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: do they even have a mid card and then the
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: the well.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Well that's that's a good that's a good point too,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: G because if you looked at the reports, uh, they
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: are reporting that there are several areas of reporting that
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: AW is about to sign like seven people, probably more,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: and I do believe that they're not going to be
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: signing a lot of big, big, big names. They are
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: gonna be signing some, but they're gonna be signing people
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: that are going to be developmental and part of that
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: will be in the women's division that could face my
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: World and whoever else is holding the T and T Championship.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: But let's go on to the AW International Championship. Thank
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: goodness for Kyle Fletcher and Bandido. I want to say
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: that right off the bat, because that match was the
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: match of the night. Nothing else even came up to
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: its kneecaps that it was far and away the best
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: match of the night. And Speedball Mike Baily is going
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: to face Kyle Fletcher Grand Slam Mexico. Now didn't Speedball?
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: What did they face last? Was it? That wasn't the
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: only was it the C two? I think it was two.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Speedball one in the C two and then Talented Tyle
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: for the T and Team title after the C two
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: and lost that one thanks to Sanigans.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But the thing that I'm at the point is
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: is that those matches were brilliant and they made sense,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: and they made sense they were fun matches. This is
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: gonna be a fun match in Arena Mexico with these two.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: That crowd is going to go absolutely berserk. But the
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: question is I don't believe the speedball is gonna win
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: this match. The question is is what's in the future
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: for Kyle Fletcher and what did you think that Kyle
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Fletcher and Bandido.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: I agree Kyle Fletcher Bandido with match of the night.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: I won't say nothing else came to those to it,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: but it was the match of the Knight for sure.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: I think in the future for Kyle Fletcher, that's where
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: we're getting our triple threat at all in with Kyle
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Fletcher and Kazutskokada. As for Speedball, I hope he's facing
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Kevin Knight for the t n T title.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I agree with with everything Chris Chris just said. There's
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: there's I guess kind of the same thing with uh
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: with the with the men's World Championship. You know there's
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: zero chance in my opinion, speedball wins and this.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: Is this is just a match.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: This was a match to please the Montreal crowd and
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: a match that we just know delivers every time. So
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: not mad at it, but you know it's just kind
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: of a match.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. When you need a champion to lose, Bendido is
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: the guy you go to. Just don't put up his
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: ring of honor World Championship.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Right, Okay, I need a favor. Can someone say Kyle
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Fletcher's full name plate.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: A international Champion, the proto Star, Kyle Herbert Walker in
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: a bonport Tomato Fletcher.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. Okay, this is my love letter
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: to Kyle Fletcher. He's my favorite wrestler after Kenny. So
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: thank you Kyle for the greatest match that I've ever
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: seen you done in AW so far. You had some
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: of other matches that were great, but with Ben Dido,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, it was beautiful and I love watching
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: you and I will cheer you on from this day forward.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: I started being a fan after watching you against Hangman
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: for the world title that all out last year and
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: you delivered. So thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: This is my love letter to Kyle. So I was
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: happy to see Speedball win and the crowd win nuts
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: nuts not and even in the in the the little
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: segment the promo that he did with Lexi, he started
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: uh speaking French and swearing in French and everybody understood
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: what he was saying, so that that was great. So
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: I'm excited for the match as much as I would
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: want to cheer for speedball and winning in Mexico. Sorry,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Mike File's gonna do it.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: And then the you know, you know, the only way
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: that speedball wins in Mexico is if Speedball versus Fletcher
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: is going to be the match at all, in which
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be totally against, but they risk doing that
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: too often.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Or if Kyle Fletcher there's too much of the
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: water down there.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: There you go. You know, nothing, nothing causes an upset,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: mored and dysentery. All right, Well let's move on because
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: we are running a little bit short on time. Kevin
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Knight T and T Champion russelled Kenny Omega at Redemption.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: I did not see a second of this match. I
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: had to do something, and I did watch the next day,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: but I just pass forwarded through the match because I
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: knew it was meaningless. There was no way Kevin Knight
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: was gonna win, so I just wanted to see what
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: happened after the match. So I can't speak on this match,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: but I will say this, I am a big Kevin
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Knight fan, and I think he is improving on all
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: areas other than wrestling from week to week. I think
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: that he is a big talent. But one of the
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: things that made no sense to me is having Darby
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Allen come out before the match during a do a
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: backstage promo saying He's coming for the T and T Championship. Okay,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: well you just kind of told us he isn't winning
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: the world championship, because if he was, you were gonna
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: go after the big gun. Why would you go up
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: to the DNT Championship if the world champion was right
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: out there? Thank you, Tony Kahan, you know.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Because Kevin Knight hadn't won the world title yet. Yeah,
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: so I mean, you got you gotta kind of consider
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: that from pay fa. If he says I'm going for
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: the world titles, then that really telegraphs the ending.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I didn't watch this match at
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: all because I mean, obviously I knew who's gonna win,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: so I just wanted to see what was apter to match.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: But for those of you who did watch the match,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: what did you think of it? And what do you
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: think is next for Kevin Knight? Do you think it
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: is Darby Allen.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: I thought it was a great match. I think I
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: could see Grand Slam Mexico them doing kind of a
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: you know, some kind of stipulation for like a blowoff match.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: You know, I could see that happening. But I feel
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: I think Kevin Knight will beat Darby Allen and go
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: on to lose the title to Speedball at all.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough? Anybody else, Yeah.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: That the match was good. Also, nothing to like, I'm not.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I don't feel the need to suggest that match to anybody,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Kevin Knight's doing awesome. I think he's exactly
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: what a T and T champion should look like. And
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of fun watching Kevin Knight. Not
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: much to report, but you know, definitely nothing.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: Bad to report.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: He's got a new theme song.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, I was wondering if they were a special
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: pay per view song, special main event song.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: But if it's if it's his new theme song, I
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: don't like it. I don't feel it, I know.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Well, what do you think is next for Kevin Knight? Now?
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Do you think it is Darby?
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking and I guess that's the obvious answer. Well,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: they can do.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Don't forget the don't forget the TNT Championship is an
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: open challenge championship, so it could be anybody.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be, but Darby is the obvious. I
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: think he would be humbled by the beating that Kenny
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: gave him because at the beginning of the match, it
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: was really him, you know, taking control. But then in
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: the middle of the match, Kenny just like he said
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: it out loud and I and I could hear what
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: he had to say, and he said, you can never
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: be me. You can never be me, and that's absolutely true.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: So I think it would be humbled by by the
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: by the match per se and the experience that being
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: in a world title position match would would be for him.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: So kudos kudos for for the match. It wasn't my
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: favorite of the night for sure, but I will wait
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: and see what's next for Kevin Knight. That's all I'm
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: going to say.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Well, well, let's move on at all in we do
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: know that it's going to at least be Cajun Copeland
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: against the Young Bucks. A lot of people are saying
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: that maybe New Day makes this a three way. Uh.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be against that, but uh, hey, the Cajun
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Copeland Retirement Tour is on its way. What do you
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: think of this match? At all in? And by the way,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Cajun Copeland against Tune did they wrestle against Okay?
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: People?
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: That was the second match of the night, was it not?
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: No?
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: It was okay. I personally did not like that match.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I mean it was it was there, It was fine,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: it was nothing wrong with it, but it was a
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: dynamite match. It wasn't a pay per view.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the World Tag Team Championships are being
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: held hostage by Cajun Cope for a hope at a
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: at a nostalgia.
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: Pop at all in.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: I kind of think the same thing for the Young Bucks.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I don't particularly like them with the titles. You know,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: you get a Bucks match and you're having a great time.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: But I think there's just so much more, so many
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: more teams to give a spotlight too. I think the
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Young Bucks are always kind of the bailout team for
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: switching hands. I do hope a third team comes in
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: and and wins and not either of these two teams.
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: I'm tired of Cajun.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, also, look a look at Dynamite Collision. This week
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: at Detroit, Michigan. Chris, who do you think may show up?
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping the Murtor City machine Guns and I would
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: absolutely puts it in this match. I want a third,
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: a fourth, a fifth, and a six team added to
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: this match with tables, ladders and fricking chairs.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Oh my, hockey pucks and thumbtacks in it.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: No, yes, no, please not cricket back.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: They're they're in England cricket back.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Cricket bats. I don't think Americans that were watching usn't
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: even know what that what they are anyway, Belle, what
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: do you think for now?
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: I'm excited.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: That's the dream match that everybody wanted to see, and
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: the Young Bucks even said it on their being the
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Elite video today. So I'm crossing my fingers for.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to have to I'm gonna have to
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: disagree with you that this is a dream match and
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: everybody wanted to se I don't care, so everybody.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: They wanted to do it.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: They wanted the Young Bucks so they said it.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well this this is a dream match for
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: them for sure.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: But for me, that is probably something that Caje and
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Copeland are looking forward to yeah.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Well, Edge sorry, Adam is looking forward to it, but
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Christian is not character.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Christian pretty much unreadable. But I want to move on.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I don't want to spend a lot lot of more
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: time on this. Uh, the most uncomfortable segment in at Redemption.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell they were thinking, but
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this right now. I'm gonna tell
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: you this right now, that it's gonna be the Brawling
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Birds versus Divine Dominion at all in and yet another
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: fan service match that I have no interest in at
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: all at watching. What have the Brawling Birds done other
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: than being from England? What are the Brawling Birds done
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: to deserve to be in a World tag team title
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: match and probably win over a team that has been dominant?
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: It just makes no sense to me. This is dumb,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, but Tony conn is starting to become
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: the king of dumb booking. To me, this is dumb.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I think that the most established tag women's tag team,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: and I know that sounds crazy.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: It speaks.
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: It speaks more to a lack of.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Who's the most who's the most established tag team? How
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: do you figure that they've had eight matches and six
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: of the nine matches, well six of those are against nobody's.
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: My point is not even rosters.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: My point is about the lack of women's tag teams.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: And you could say the same about Divine Dominion because
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: they just squash match and pre show match every every
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: week and every pay per view. It's more of a
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: testament to the lack of women's tag teams.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: But you know, I think.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: They're that's four quality wrestlers that will put on a
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: good match and have a month to build a story.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say this, you know, and I have
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: to disagree with you. They are four quality wrestlers, but
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: there's only one quality team, and that's Leana Cross and
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: and Uh and Beg and Bain. I have never seen
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: any team ever with less chemistry together than Jmi Hayter
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: and Alex Windsor. They're awful together in the ring. They're terrible.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: They have no idea what they're doing.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 8: I'm sorry, they don't fully disagree, fully disagree, and they again,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 8: I think the Divine Dominions booking is not much different
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 8: than that of the Brawling Birds match.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: But they're out there. They're out there on a weekly basis.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Brawling Birds disappeared for what at least a month or two.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: You know, they've they've done vignettes, but they they haven't wrestled,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: they haven't done anything. You they they after they just
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: do not have chemistry together in the ring yet are great.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Their ring chemistry is awful.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: I think they're just still figuring out that timing.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, a good time to do it, is it
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: in front of you know, what could be fifty thousand
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: people and all in you know, that's a great place
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: to figure out your timing. They don't. They shouldn't be
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: in this match. I'm sorry. They shouldn't. They should yet, Well,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: it's clear and obvious. I mean they just did it
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: close up with Renee piquette today where it's obvious. It's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: just the same. Yeah, well what would you do?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: What would you do instead of that?
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, if you can't come up with another tag team,
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  Speaker 2: then just don't have a tag team match because this
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  Speaker 2: is preposterous. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think it goes back to just lack of overall
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  Speaker 1: women's tag team booking, or not lack, I guess, but
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  Speaker 1: lack of depth. But you're very uncomfortable. I was cracking
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  Speaker 1: up and I didn't know if it was, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It was very uncomfortable. Well do you have any opinions
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  Speaker 2: on this.
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  Speaker 3: Before we move on?
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  Speaker 2: All right? Well, what who it is? The very last
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  Speaker 2: person we're going to talk about is John Moxley. He
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  Speaker 2: still has a belt, doesn't he? Yeah, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: one that he hasn't defended since the Forbidden Door. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: and has very rarely honestly defended it. He's been too
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  Speaker 2: busy with will Osbury and six man tag teams and
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that. Uh. John Moxley needs to be used
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  Speaker 2: more and be used as a champion more. I have
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  Speaker 2: really no idea what's next with John Moxley.
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  Speaker 4: Me. I feel like I feel like this recent kind
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  Speaker 4: of threats has been way is like, Okay, this guy's
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  Speaker 4: gonna show up freaking week and he wants to work,
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  Speaker 4: So he puts them in you know, six man and
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  Speaker 4: tags and has them doing segments and stuff to kind
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  Speaker 4: of keep them from just completely breaking down. Because that
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  Speaker 4: dude has not taken a break in like ninety seven years.
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  Speaker 5: I still think that far.
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  Speaker 1: I still think he's headed or we're headed for death
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  Speaker 1: right versus the Bang Bank gang at all in with
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: their loss at redemption.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. It kind of puts a.
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  Speaker 1: Puts a fork in that for the Bang Bang Gang,
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  Speaker 1: but uh, the Death Riders did jump them after the match,
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  Speaker 1: and so I think that may be heating up. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I agree that that's another title. This maybe held hostage.
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  Speaker 1: And John Moxley is one of my favorite you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad to see him with gold, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: get too cheap?
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  Speaker 2: Do you see the Bang Bang Gang and it's the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Death Riders being what a tag match, trios match or.
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  Speaker 5: My if I had it my way, it would be.
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  Speaker 1: The Bank Bank Gang versus Death Writers minus Jay White
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  Speaker 1: and John Moxley. They would have a singles match for
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: the Continental title and then some sort of uh stipulation
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: or hardcore match.
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  Speaker 2: But so like to be like four on four so
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: to be a man.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, a little never want you never want to see
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  Speaker 6: a double chain match ever again.
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  Speaker 1: In a thank you very much stinker of the night.
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  Speaker 5: Oh that was yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know what when is a stadium? Yeah, maybe we
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: could see uh Stampede.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: And if it's because I don't think Finley and uh
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Clark Connors and Gabe Kid are out of the picture either,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: it could be a big yeah. In just a way
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: to get a lot of people on the show. It
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: could be a big multiman match and hopefully, like I said,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Jay White versus John Moxley, well.
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  Speaker 2: Don't forget something here. We just had redemption, and Valie,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: I do want to get your opinion on John Moxley.
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  Speaker 2: But I did want to bring this up before I forgot.
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  Speaker 2: We just had redemption. We had no Darby Allen except
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: for in vignette. We had no Hangman at a page,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: no Swerve strictly. There were others too, El Mercedes, monetf
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: They weren't in matches.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying is she wasn't in a match. You know,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: I mean you were there too. You didn't do you
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: didn't do crap in the show, you know what I mean?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: You see, That's what I'm saying. She cared. That's it.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: She cared, but you didn't care it not because because
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: that double chain match was awful. But don't forget these
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: people are gonna probably be it all In. Then you
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: also have you know, new day MotorCity machine Guns. Kyrie's saying,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: who may show these all those groups may show up
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: in more so all In is not anywhere near set yet.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Put it out.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you got to think for all in you know,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: there's normally a men's and women's Christina Gauntlet.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: So I hope not this year. I really do. I
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: really hope that. I hope not. I think it's been
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: a little overdone with all the term with the owen
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Hart and with the qualifiers for the uh Survival of
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: the Fittest, and you know, I just think that there's
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: just too much of that kind of stuff. You know,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: let's let's just have straight up matches.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's a tradition. Tony Kohn wants to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: establisht for all with.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: No I get it. I get that. I'm just saying
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be upset if it didn't happen. But Bell,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: did you have an opinion on the Moxley thing?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: Well, it was fun seeing again after Dynasty. So hmm,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: what John Moxley will do at all? Maybe j White?
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Not necessarily at all, not necessarily all in it could
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: be tomorrow night. You know, what's the story which Will with.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: Will like, there's some explanation that needs to be that
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: needs to be done by Will and Kenny about what
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: their action were on Sunday and for Marx as well,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: so it's going to be very interesting the next couple
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: of weeks in terms of storyline.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: When Will wins the AW World Championship at all In,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to seeing the prediction polls when
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: we put them up, probably about a week before the show,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: because I think they're going to be lopsided as hell
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: for that match. But anyway, I mean, when Will beats
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: Kenny o'meghan wins the World Championship and all in, I
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: mean John Moxley's right there to challenge.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I think so. I think so.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: By the way, you know, speaking of all in, AW
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• 1:08:33
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• 1:08:38
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• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: I've give it away since an AW fan. It's ridiculous
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: when you think about much money I spent on sure,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: it's but I love doing it. You know, Chris, you
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: got one. I did.
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  Speaker 4: I love my shirt a bunch of times.
• 1:09:00
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• 1:09:06
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• 1:09:21
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• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: I wish Redemption was better, so this would have been
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: more positive episode. But you know, things like this happen.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: You'll have this in small towns like Europe.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was fun, it was fun going. But
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: just I just want to say I have a beef
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: to pick with Tomaso Champa. Please, for for the love
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: of God, do not ever, ever, ever put your hands
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: on you Pete again.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: I want to I was upset that the stuffing didn't
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: come out of you pe.
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• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Now I'm a Winnipeg Jets fan. What can I say?
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Just be facetious, but yeah, so, but anyway, thank you
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