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Summer Mailbag Edition · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast proudly presented by BET
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  Speaker 1: three sixty five. We are a part of the Action Network.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Chad Noelman, chief Content Officer of the Action Network.
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  Speaker 1: I am joined as I am in every episode by
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  Speaker 1: my bff, my companion, my compadre, professional vetter, Simon hunter HEADO.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm in Hello hot chat. How are we doing, brother, dude?
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  Speaker 1: We are heading into it. We are like days away
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  Speaker 1: as this podcast is listened to, because we're recording a
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  Speaker 1: little bit early, pulling back the curtain to accommodate my vacation.
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  Speaker 1: You don't take vacation. I take vacation.
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  Speaker 2: No, my whole life's vacation, Chod. I'm literally living the dream.
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  Speaker 1: You are living the dream. You've been in a why
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  Speaker 1: you'll come back home. You'll just bet your face off
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  Speaker 1: until it's time to go to some other exotic location.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty much. I know. If anyone can make it work,
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  Speaker 2: if you can become a multi millionaire in your thirties
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  Speaker 2: and be single and no wife or kids, Chad, the
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  Speaker 2: hype is real. It is truly the life.
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  Speaker 1: You know what though, If you can be in your
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  Speaker 1: fifties and live in the middle of Connecticut, and your
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  Speaker 1: kids are generally out of the house. All the better
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  Speaker 1: then you. By the way, I'm not going to die alone.
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  Speaker 1: That's the difference.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're getting laughter from our friend, our
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  Speaker 1: former colleague, one of our favorite people, a nemesis of mine,
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  Speaker 1: Matthew Friedman. He's going to come on the podcast in
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  Speaker 1: text one eight hundred Gambler Matthew Friedman, formerly of the
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  Speaker 1: Action Network, formerly of Fantasy Pros. He's got a new job.
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  Speaker 1: He's the Brandon Cooks of the Fantasy Space of Folks.
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  Speaker 1: Wherever he goes, it doesn't matter, he puts up numbers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not telling you what the new job is because
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  Speaker 1: by the time of his airs it will just have
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  Speaker 1: been announced. But we do have live listeners on AMP,
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  Speaker 1: so we don't want to reveal it yet. Friedman, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just glad when you're on. I'm glad no matter where
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  Speaker 1: you're working you can decide to give us a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Always, I will always don the old Fantasy Labs hat.
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  Speaker 4: And it's right to come back on the show. And
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  Speaker 4: by the way, you know, this could have been a
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  Speaker 4: really boring show, like we could have been talking about
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  Speaker 4: some really low level stuff. But you know, thanks for
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  Speaker 4: having me on for the mail Bag such an important episode,
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  Speaker 4: So thanks for having me Simon.
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  Speaker 1: Do you sense the sarcasm in Friedman's voice?
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  Speaker 2: Mail Bag is the best you get to learn a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about your own yourself when you do a
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  Speaker 2: mail back questions, Right, Chad.
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  Speaker 1: I love the mail back questions that we got. These
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  Speaker 1: are actually I was looking at these this morning. Great
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  Speaker 1: job by Matt Mitchell. By the way, Matt Mitchell, kudos.
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  Speaker 1: He did some extra special producing. He was sending us
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  Speaker 1: mail back questions last night. He was sending us notes
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  Speaker 1: for the other podcast or recording so I could be
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  Speaker 1: on vacation. The guy was doing his job, and I
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  Speaker 1: know he's doing a lot of other stuff. He's got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of jobs.
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  Speaker 2: My favorite, my favorite fair line from him is it's
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  Speaker 2: always better when one of you guys are prepared for
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  Speaker 2: the show. So if one of you could go over
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  Speaker 2: the questions beforehand, and thankfully Chad did go over the
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  Speaker 2: questions beforehand.
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  Speaker 1: His expectations are so so that if we can get
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  Speaker 1: one person it is the mail bag episode, Freeman, I
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  Speaker 1: would I would look at it as there's almost no
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  Speaker 1: one who could play in this space other than you
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  Speaker 1: because of how much you hate Simon and I and
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  Speaker 1: also your history with the Action Network and Fantasy Lab.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to fire away. Here we go. Are
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  Speaker 1: you ready for the first question? Did Simon? Simon didn't
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  Speaker 1: even answer this question in the script. What is something
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  Speaker 1: you bet on during the summer that you have zero
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  Speaker 1: interest in the rest of the year. Freeman.
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  Speaker 4: You can go first, Yeah, basically every sport that's not football,
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  Speaker 4: but specifically NHL, and I do player props. I don't
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  Speaker 4: follow the NHL. I cann't tell you a single name
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  Speaker 4: of a person in the NHL. But I have a
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  Speaker 4: model that's actually been pretty good at projecting how these
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  Speaker 4: guys will do. And so whenever March madisons and then
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  Speaker 4: you know, you got the NFL Draft and NFL Draft ins,
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking to the next thing. What can I bet.
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  Speaker 4: I'll bet some NHL player props. It's ridiculous, but it's profitable,
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  Speaker 4: and then you know, the Stanley Cup finals end, and
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  Speaker 4: then I have nothing until football.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you have a model for NHL player props
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  Speaker 1: if you don't even follow the NHL.
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  Speaker 4: So a few years ago I created the model for
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  Speaker 4: March Madness player props, and once March Madness ended, I
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  Speaker 4: realized that I could actually pretty quickly repurpose that into
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  Speaker 4: hockey projections, and so I kind of did that on
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  Speaker 4: the fly and it ended up being successful.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, why, like, why did that work?
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  Speaker 1: What is in the model without giving it away? Sure
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  Speaker 1: that makes it possible to do that in.
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  Speaker 4: The grand scheme of things. It's about just projecting the
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  Speaker 4: number of minutes someone is going to be out there playing.
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  Speaker 4: And so you know, if you have five basketball players
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  Speaker 4: on the court, you're projecting two hundred minutes. If you
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  Speaker 4: have you know, six skaters out there, or five skaters
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  Speaker 4: and then a goalie, you're projecting a certain number of minutes.
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  Speaker 4: And so you just you know, kind of make sure
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  Speaker 4: that you're projecting reasonable amounts of minutes. And then once
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  Speaker 4: you do that, it's pretty easy to project everything else
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  Speaker 4: because it's all just based on the number of goals,
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  Speaker 4: the number of assists, everything like that that a guy
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  Speaker 4: scores on a per minute basis.
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  Speaker 1: Why would you even be comfortable putting money against that?
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  Speaker 1: How long did it take you to figure out that
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  Speaker 1: that actually worked?
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  Speaker 4: A couple of days. I mean it's really just changing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's really just changing the model, reorienting it, you know,
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  Speaker 4: making sure that I'm projecting reasonable enough top line numbers
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  Speaker 4: and then dividing that out amongst all the players. But
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  Speaker 4: it really didn't take that long because I already had
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  Speaker 4: the bones of it, the infrastructure, but already set up
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  Speaker 4: to do March Madness.
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  Speaker 1: Simon, what do you think of that?
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  Speaker 2: My man? Loves the gamble. He's a true gambler. He
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  Speaker 2: just literally was like, you know what, I could take
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  Speaker 2: some time off here, but no, I'm going to start
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  Speaker 2: diving into NHL. So he's got my support. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Would you tail him based on what he just said?
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  Speaker 2: Hell no, maybe in a couple of years, maybe after
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  Speaker 2: two or three years of running the model? No, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: No, these picks have been successful and they're in the
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  Speaker 4: Action app.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: Freeman is a prolific pick tracker. Freeman might have one
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  Speaker 1: of the highest followings of anybody in the Action Network
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  Speaker 1: app in terms of total people following him and his
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  Speaker 1: picks in the app. He's actually very good at it.
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  Speaker 4: It's over one hundred thousand. And by the way, you
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  Speaker 4: guys need to give me my expert status back. I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna peel back the curtains. Give me that expert status
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  Speaker 4: back so I will be incentivized to make more picks
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  Speaker 4: in the app.
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  Speaker 1: You know who you know who can do that, Matt Mitchell.
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  Speaker 3: Consider it about it right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've tried doing it for people.
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  Speaker 3: I'll take Yeah, I'll take chance away and we'll give
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  Speaker 3: it to you. No problem.
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  Speaker 2: IM get a pro pro subscription. While we're giving these
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  Speaker 2: things out at my pro subscription ran out, all right.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be one nineteen ninety nine. Thanks man.
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  Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell will take care of the pro scripscription. Matt
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  Speaker 1: Mitchell will take the take care of Matt Freeman's UH
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  Speaker 1: expert status in the Action Network ap uh. Simon, what
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  Speaker 1: is the one sport that you will bet during the summer.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably gonna shock you chat it's actually the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: I'll do NBA playoffs, I'll do the finals, I'll do
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  Speaker 2: the draft, and then I'll do futures, and then I
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  Speaker 2: will not look at NBA, no joke and talk after
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  Speaker 2: March Madness. It's just it's a sport I do enjoy,
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  Speaker 2: but I just don't really care about it for the
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  Speaker 2: betting perspective until I'm after I'm done football. I'll take
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  Speaker 2: a little break, I'll do March Madness, and then I'll
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  Speaker 2: slowly ease my way into the NBA. So NBA is
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  Speaker 2: definitely that sport where I get really invested into it,
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  Speaker 2: really interested in it, like love, talking about it for
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  Speaker 2: a couple of months, and then by by July, it's
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  Speaker 2: just as if it never happened. It's like, I'm totally
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  Speaker 2: into football, don't think about NBA until late April. So
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  Speaker 2: it's definitely a weird sport of me where it's like
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  Speaker 2: I really care about the NBA from April till June,
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  Speaker 2: and then I just don't don't really care about at all.
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  Speaker 1: I do love your NBA fandom. It's really fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely one of the weirder things about me.
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  Speaker 1: Mine would be golf. I don't think about golf, don't
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  Speaker 1: watch golf, don't play golf except during the summer. And
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  Speaker 1: it's not even because all of a sudden I want
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  Speaker 1: to start watching golf. It's for two reasons. One I've
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  Speaker 1: mentioned on the podcast before my buddy Josh, who is
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  Speaker 1: a rabid golf better and I mean even this week,
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  Speaker 1: he is like doing chicken scratching on legal pads in
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: his state, tracking the odds for every book and looking
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: for the advantages. Who's undervalued. He's got very specific theories
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  Speaker 1: about form, about play on courses, about betting the top
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  Speaker 1: of the board and not betting the top of the board.
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  Speaker 1: And the guy has been on a streak like it's
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  Speaker 1: unbelievable how well he has performed. I love following him.
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  Speaker 1: So that's number one and number two the Major's pool
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  Speaker 1: I do. I've mentioned this on the show. I've got
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  Speaker 1: this Major's pool with some other Action Network ogs and
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: they are all avid golfers, avid golf followers, avid golf betters,
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  Speaker 1: avid golf watchers. I have won, nobody won, Nobody had
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  Speaker 1: Wyndam Clark except for Matt Mitchell, who should tell that
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  Speaker 1: story and this past major. But prior to that, I've
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  Speaker 1: won for the past six major pools that we've done.
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  Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell, do you want to come out and tell
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  Speaker 1: your Windom Clark story really fast?
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: Sure, I'd be having to. I try to get the
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: neighborhood involved. We've mentioned on the show before that when
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  Speaker 3: the Bills win a playoff game, the whole block gets
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: everyone gets a pint of Ben and Jerry's out their choosing.
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  Speaker 3: So I've gotten everyone to be Packer's first bill snack.
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  Speaker 3: And now with big gambling windfalls, which happened typically outside
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  Speaker 3: of football season, when I have no opinions, I will
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  Speaker 3: let the stakes be known that if it's particularly large,
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  Speaker 3: something happens, I'll have a blah bah blah a block party.
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  Speaker 3: I'll have everybody over to the yard for dinner. The
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  Speaker 3: latest one was Wyndom Clark. If Wyndom Clark wins the
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  Speaker 3: US Open, I'll have everybody over. And then I stopped
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  Speaker 3: paying attention because I hate betting on golf and I
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  Speaker 3: would never watch it for any reason. Despite being a degenerate.
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  Speaker 3: He's in the lead, maintaining the lead. Everyone's at his heels.
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  Speaker 3: It's Father's Day and now everyone's hanging out their windows
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  Speaker 3: on my block shouting at me, Hey, you should turn
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  Speaker 3: it on, which I refused. Everyone comes over to my
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: yard to drink because the next day was Juneteenth, so
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: everyone's off and we're sitting around a big fire. I
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  Speaker 3: said I'll watch one hole, and I watched the final hole.
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  Speaker 3: He wins that everyone starts hooting and hollering, and the
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  Speaker 3: next Saturday we had a big block party. I tweeted
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  Speaker 3: Wyndham a video, to which you responded, congratulations, he loves tacos.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, she produced that healthy baby boy got out to
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  Speaker 2: Congratulating you. Definitely, you definitely should add that to your bio,
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  Speaker 2: Matt Mitchell. I'll make you laugh so hard you'll have
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is so funny.
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  Speaker 1: the theme Freeman and Chad put answers into the script.
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  Speaker 1: Simon did not seems like a lot of sharp folks,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: including you guys, are high on the Chicago Bears this season.
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  Speaker 1: It makes sense, But is there another team you were
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: hearing a lot of positives about for twenty twenty three
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  Speaker 1: that you disagree with. I'll go first, Chad jay E Ts, Jets, Jets, Jets,
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  Speaker 1: fade in the Jets, can't wait to fade the Jets off?
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: The Aaron Rodgers bandwagon not even in my list of
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  Speaker 1: top ten QBS. Preview of the next podcast for next
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  Speaker 1: week Jets, Jets, Jets, Friedman.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe the Broncos, and it's not as if there were
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people talking about them, but like they're
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  Speaker 4: getting enough like positive buzz of like, oh, they finally
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  Speaker 4: have a competent coach there, and Russell Wilson can't be
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  Speaker 4: as bad as he was last year, you know, not
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  Speaker 4: to spoil what we're going to talk about later, but
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  Speaker 4: maybe he can be as bad as he was last year.
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  Speaker 4: I just I don't think that this is actually that
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  Speaker 4: good of a Broncos team, and they play in a
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  Speaker 4: really tough Division two. So I'm just kind of hands
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  Speaker 4: off on them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm one of those people he's talking about me. I'm
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  Speaker 2: all in on the Broncos. Chad, you know this, I
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  Speaker 2: can't help it. I love Sean Payton and I can't
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  Speaker 2: stop looking at the numbers from last year. I think
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  Speaker 2: it was what the hell was it with it? I
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  Speaker 2: think it was through the first ten weeks, if they
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: had scored more than eighteen points, they would have been
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  Speaker 2: nine to one to start eat the season. Last year, again,
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  Speaker 2: if they had just scored more than eighteen points per game,
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  Speaker 2: they would have been nine and one. So it kind
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  Speaker 2: of makes sense that you know, they're kind of being
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  Speaker 2: talked about the Broncos. But Freeman's right, like that division
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  Speaker 2: is so tough, and you know, means Jet or mean
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  Speaker 2: Chad are lined up. We both were just down on
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  Speaker 2: the Jets. So I won't steal Chad's answer. Everyone already
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  Speaker 2: knows them down the Jets. I'm gonna go Seattle. I'm
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: trying to look at teams that I think made the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs last year that I could see them not making
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  Speaker 2: it this upcoming season. These are them or Miami, right,
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: these two teams that if added pieces during this offseason,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: most people are gonna bet them to take another step
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: this year. I got to just go back on watch
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: to film on Gino, Like Gino was a completely different
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: quarterback the first half to the second half. The league
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: really did catch up with that offense in the second half.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks. So I do love what they did the draft, right,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: they got another receiver, they arguably the best corner in
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: the draft. But there's a lot of things they did
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: last year. I just don't think they'll be as lucky. Right,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: they caught up a bunch of teams at the right times,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: like they played the Chargers after Herbert had cracked his ribs.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: So they actually dominated the Chargers where they probably wouldn't
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: have had that. They had a bunch of backup quarterbacks
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: they played against. The Seahawks just seem like a team
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: that's gonna regress this upcoming season. So the Dead selfie
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: a team that their odds have been moving. I mean,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I won't name the podcast, but a really big name
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: podcast talked about them. They dropped their odds from plus
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: two fifty done plus two hundred plus one ninety a
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: lot of books. They bumped a lot of other teams
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: that division. The Rams included up to ten to one
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: to win that division. So we've already seen the Seahawks
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: are getting a lot of money and a lot of
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: hype headed into this upcoming season.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Chad the podcast one quick thing, Go ahead, go ahead,
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: say that thebs.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Oh I didn't even hear that.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah yeah, Bill Simmon said he the Seahawks and
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: like literally, Bill Simmons moved the number. God bless Bill Simmons.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: So I had a bunch of eight to one tickets
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: on the Rams and won their division thanks to my
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: guy Bill Simmons. I have a bunch of ten to
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: one tickets now in the Rams to win a division.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: So hopefully the hype keeps going up on the Seahawks team.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: You know the Seahawks. I almost chose them. That was
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: like the second option. It was like them or the Broncos. Yeah, Simon,
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I'm with you there on the Seahawks, like they have potential.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: But you know Geno Smith, could he regress to like
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: his career average? Yeah, he could easily do that.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Next question, this is for Chad. Chad Milman. Could you
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: compare working in sports betting at this exact stage in
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: its media development to working in some other branch of
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: media in some other era. Second question, what's it like
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: today versus your ESPN Behind the Bets moonlighting ten years ago?
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: So I read this.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I was the name of your showback then with called
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Behind the Bets.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't like it. I'll tell you what. This
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: was a big point of contention. I was asked to
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: do the podcast, and I was trying to think of fun,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: clever names to do, and like, eventually my boss, who
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: was already irritated that someone had asked me to do
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: this podcast and it was taking me away from doing
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: like the day to day work, at the magazine where
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I was editor in chief. Yet I was thinking about
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: these names and he's like, fuck it, we're doing behind
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: the bets. He's like, just name what it is. I'm like, no,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I want it to be more personality driven, have a
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: little more flavor, a little Nope, nope, behind the bets.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I don't give a shit. If you're a personality, I
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: don't give a shit. If you're in front of it,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: it's behind the bets. So it was behind the bets,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: which still exists today. Obviously. I think within the sports
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: space the development of sports betting right now, the comps
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: are fantasy and analytics in that all of u sudden
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: they have become these huge parts of sports in the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: way fantasy did probably ten years ago when Matthew Berry
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: really started to take off at ESPN and Yahoo's fantasy
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: became so big and the NFL started a fantasy game
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: to compete with it. In CBS, etc. And analytics like
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: over the last generation, since Michael Lewis wrote Moneyball, it
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: has slowly crept into the mainstream to the point where
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: it was a thing that you know, people who played
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: stratomatic baseball like Darryl Morey, growing up did to all
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's theo Epstein and a universe of
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: stat geeks and analytics geeks running teams, not just in baseball,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: but in basketball and football and hockey too. And so
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: this is the stage sports betting is in where it's
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: caught on and gone mainstream. I think if it's an
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: industry some other branch of media, it's a little bit
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: like Netflix. I say this all the time, like the
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: business of betting is going to consume the business of media.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: And Netflix fifteen twenty years ago, whatever it was is
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: sending me DVDs right, and pretty soon Netflix puts Blockbuster
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: out of business. And then it evolves and grows and
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: mores and transitions, and now all of a sudden, it's,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you know, the biggest threat there is to traditional media,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and it's what Comcast, Disney, Viacom. They're all paramount. They're
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: all chasing what Netflix has created, which is a viable,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: revenue focused streaming business, while they're all stuck in a
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: declining linear space. Second part of the question, what's it
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: like today versus ESPN? Behind the bets, moon Lighting ten
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: years ago, side hull, side hustle versus main hustle ten
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: years ago. I'm doing it. It's something I'm paying attention to,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: and a lot of avid betting fans are paying attention to.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: No competition. Everyone thinks and no one thinks they are
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: an expert. Today everyone thinks they're an expert. There's so
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: much competition. Here's a great example. I mentioned Matthew Berry
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: of Fantasy, who was a pioneer in the Space Hall
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: of Famer. Brilliant guy, good friend. I love the guy
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to death. Ten years ago, he and I are doing
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: an invite only panel for ESPN Insiders. We're in Orlando.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: We're talking about fantasy and sports betting. He's totally against
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: sports betting, doesn't even want it in the same sentence
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: as fantasy. I'm like, dude, there is no difference. The
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: only difference is like semantics. Today he is a betting
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: expert for NBC. Right, That is the difference in ten
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: years side hustle versus made hustle. Yeah, next question that
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: you do?
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Nice? You never agree with me, That's fantastic, Simon. You've
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: talked about tailing other people at action across other sports.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Who are some of the experts you trust most for
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: stuff that isn't football, oh man.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, Chad over Here has hired about thirty guys
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: to cover golf for us, but they're all pretty damn good.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: So I would say you can't really go wrong with
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: any of the guys covering golf for the action, I
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: would say for the other random sports, Sean Kerner is
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: just money. Like he's great at player props, He's good
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: at baseball, He's really good at WNBA like the women's game.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Shawn's really talented at that. So I would say, if
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I'm betting big money, I've made a decent amount off Sean,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: no doubt. And then during the season again we do
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: this show every Sunday, I'm really betting Chris Raybond's plays too.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: So during the season when we do our show chat
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: on Sunday morning, I'm putting bets in off what they're
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: giving me. Because I'm not a huge player prop guy, right,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I really like doing size and totals, but when people
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: give me any type of edge on a player prop,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I try to make the bets. My only issue of
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: player props is they limit me, right, Like, if you're
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: trying to better player prop, it's hard to get more
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: than one hundred dollars down, especially online a lot of
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: books just because they cut people off, right, they just
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: know that's a big edge, better than player pops, just
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: because it's different than spreading totals. So during the season,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I definitely definitely listen to the other guys. You know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: it's one of those where I know that Sean and
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Chris have done the work and that's why I trust him,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: where like sometimes some people can bullshit it, right, they
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: can get away with it for a year or two,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: but they'll eventually get caught. Where I know those guys,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: especially all the years we've worked together now, like they
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: put in the work. Hell, and we were in New
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: York for that whole weekend, Chad, I think Chris was
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: out parting every night, but he was there at nine
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: in the morning with his laptop open, busting his ass,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: doing the numbers, doing the work. So again, you just
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: want to follow people that there can assistant and they
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: do it over a period of time, right, you know,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: you don't want to just dive in on something that's
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: just been doing been good for a month or two.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: You want to really see what the longevi is of
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: their records. So to me, those are two guys I
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: really do trust that Action network.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Raybon and Crooner party hard, work harder.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do, truth, they do.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Freeman is like that. Freeman is brilliant. Freeman is a
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: guy on player Props was so freaking good at action.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: In his new role, he is going to crush it
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and be just as good Freeman. Is there anybody your
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: tailing for non NFL sports?
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate that, And so all second with Simon said,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Corner and Raybond are awesome at what they do. Sean
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Zarrillo for MLB, He's someone that I think has been
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: pretty short for.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: A long time.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: And then, uh, you know Matt Moore for w NBA,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: actually not not so much for NBA. Not like to
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: take anything away from him, but like the edge and
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: NBA is so much thinner than the edges in WNBAU.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: And you know, he's a basketball expert across leagues, and
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: so whenever he has talked about stuff for WNBA, I
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: tend to pay attention to it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Brandon Anderson NBA Futures and NBA alt lines. The guy
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: has such a feel for betting huge spreads in very
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: specific spots and he's great on NBA futures. Another one,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Please make a prediction about what NFL QB is most
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: likely to break your heart repeatedly this season. Chad says,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: that's me, Jared Goff, Trevor Lawrence, Deshaun Watson. I will
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: be a sucker for all of them. Friedman.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm approaching this conversation in two different ways.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: So one is Desmond Ritterer. I like the Falcons and
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: I kind of view them as a bet on team
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: this year, And I can just imagine several scenarios in
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: which I'm on, you know, the right side, but Desmond
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Ritter does something that you would expect out of a
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: kind of inexperienced second hit in your third round quarterback,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: and he ends up costing me. And then on the
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: flip side, I view the Raiders and the Commanders as
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: terrible teams that people should be very desirous to line
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: up against and bet against all year long. But I
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: could see some sort of situation where somehow Jimmy g
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: is actually good and he covers more than I would expect,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: and that Sam Howell, you know, plays like a latter
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: day Tim Tebow and like just runs around and somehow
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: covers spreads that shouldn't be covered and break my heart
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: that way. So those are the three Ritter, Jimmy g
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: and Howell Simon.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I merely though the three guys while are the biggest
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: future bets on so Stafford, I'm all of them the rams,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Like Chad knows all in on the Bear. So Justin
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Field's way up there for him. Like Justin Fields has
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: a down year this year, I'm going to lose a
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: lot of money on futures, like I need him to
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: take that next step. The last one's gonna be Russell Wilson,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: like I'm just all in on this Denver team in
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the year after. I like being a year after everyone else. Right,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: everyone was over the Denver last year. Now their value
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: is what it should be. Right Like last year they
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: probably should have been plus four to fifty plus five
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: hundred win their division. They weren't. They were like plus
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: two twenty five plus two fifty. That was too much.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Where this year it feels right. So my three quarterbacks
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: definitely Russell Wilson, Matthew Stafford, and Justin Fields, Like I'm
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: all in one those three guys.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I will make a bold prediction right now at some
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: point this year, Jared Goff, Trevor Lawrence, Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Justin Field, Matt Stafford, Desmond Ritter, Sam Howell, and Jimmy
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: g will all break our hearts at some point. That
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: is an absolute given. Also, Friedman Brandon Cohen, also known
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: as BC, one of our product leads, promises you can
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: have your expert status back if you promise to begin
• 29:09
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• 29:14
  Speaker 2: All you want.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell, Matt Mitchell, tell him it's done. I broke
• 29:17
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• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Is spoken, So it is done.
• 29:21
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• 30:17
  Speaker 1: recently mentioned and joined the psychedelic ayahuasca and noted it
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: did not harm his performance as an athlete. Could the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: proper use of hallucinogens be the next phase in sports
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: or sports betting excellence? I don't think so. I think
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the process will be widespread acceptance and adoption of marijuana first.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I think, like everything else, it's progress, and hallucinogens are
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden sort of the drug of the day.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: There was just a story in the Wall Street Journal
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: about how in Silicon Valley so many executives are lead
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: into the use of psychedelics. I think twenty years ago
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: that would have been like, oh my god, these guys
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: are geniuses. I think today, given what we've seen about crypto,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: about the tech industry, maybe everyone is not as smart
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: as we thought they were. But I do think it's
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: going to start with marijuana and eventually a generation from
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: now get to psychedelics. Freedman.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, I can barely be profitable with no drugs.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: I think if I were using drugs that would destroy
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: my bankroll. So for me personally, I don't see it
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: as being the next wave of sports betting.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I am so nervous for what Simon has to say, A.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Couple of nerds, What a bunch of nerds. Yeah, I
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: haven't been sober in about twenty years, So taking from
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: someone that is always smoking, loves the mushrooms, love magic mushrooms.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: But it's all about moderation, picking your spots. I would
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: say the microdosing thing has blown up chat Like I know,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: like the straightest people in the world that do that
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: shit now, which blows my mind. Like kids I wouldn't
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: even drink in high school now are like yeah, Like
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I microdos to my wife and like I'm like, what
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: things are changing? So I would say I wouldn't recommend
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: it to people, but for me it's a nice reset,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Like if I have a really terrible week, maybe I'll
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: take the Monday off and go on a little trip,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: you know, Chad, a little trip around the world. So
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: it's it's one of those it's all about knowing yourself
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: and what you can and can't handle, because some people
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: can't handle it. I've seen that many of times. Some
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: people cannot handle the psychedelic So it's one of those
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: where I would not recommend it to people. But I'm
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: not shocked by especially when you just talk about Silicon
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Valley guys. It's it's a known fact, known fact that
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Steve Jobs came up with the iPhone when he was
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: on psychedelic drugs. So it is one of those things
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: where if you have an idea and you're stuck, some people,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: it does help crack those ideas. In my line of work, Betty,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I don't recommend it like it's I've never made a
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: bet on any drug. Like I've never gotten smoked a
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: blunt and been like, all right now I'm gonna make
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: my bets. You're not out of a clear mind. You
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: want to do everything with a clear mind, but after
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: all the work is done, you want to take the
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: edge off, do your thing. But I'm with freem the
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: sense that it is so damn hard to win sports betting.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Do not nick drugs in like just because you if
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: you're doing drugs, you're like, oh that belt, that bet
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: feels so good and it feels like a smart bet.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: It's not you're just on drugs. So I try to
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: tell people do the work sober and then have fun after.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: So that that would definitely be my view on this
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: whole this whole situation.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Exactly the answer I expected from you. I in college,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: all my friends were doing shrooms and they were like, dude,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, it's not for you. Don't
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: even do it, don't try it. They thought I was honestly,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: they thought I was already too optimistic and too happy.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: That's like the Michael Scott line from the Office. It's like,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's even offered Michael Scott drugs because
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: you just you don't seem like you need it. I
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: feel like you're in the same boat. Chat.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I think I think that's accurate. Listen, question, what can
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: we expect from the Favorites this season? Same schedule, same platforms,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Bigger and better than ever, no joke, I'm not even kidding.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: So everyone knows that the premise for the show has
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: always been Simon and I are making five picks for
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: a contest, and we've got to come to a consensus
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: on the five picks we like the best, and we
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: generally have crushed it. Every single year years past, we've
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: been in a contest, a big money contest that we
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: can't mention on the show because it's never the contest
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: that is done by our sponsor. This year, we are
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: doing a contest with Bet three six five. Everyone will
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: be able to join. You can compete against me and
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Simon for the for a best of five season long
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: pick them contest all season long. So that's number one.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Number two.
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  Speaker 1: We will have shows live Sunday Night in advance of
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the Sunday Night football game. We'll preview Sunday Night Football.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Also we will get the review of Sunday and the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: heartache and the pain and the joy of Sunday out
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: of the way on Sundays, usually in that seven thirty
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: to eight thirty window. It will be live on AMP
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Live on YouTube. Then we will do our regular Tuesday
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: show where we start breaking down the full slate, and
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: then our Thursday show where we narrow it down. We
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: do our sort of favorite picks of the week. All
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: that's going on. The biggest news, I would say, be
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: on the lookout first Sunday night of the NFL season
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: in New Jersey, somewhere in northern New Jersey, Simon and
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I will be doing an in person show that first
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Sunday live show in the seven thirty to eight thirty
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: window will be live in person in a space where
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: we can do the podcast and then watch the game
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  Speaker 1: together again sponsored by that three six five.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Well, let me just say, Chad, you have my word.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: People if me and chat start five and oher that
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: week one and then we have that little party that
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Sunday night. First round is on May.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: First Round on Simon. If we go five and oh
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: for week one, let's do it.
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  Speaker 4: You're not throwing Matt Mitchell's neighbors a party.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell will throw Matt Mitchell's neighbors a party. I'm
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: skipping one of the questions here because I know Matt
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Mitchell pretty soon is gonna tell me we gotta get going.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: If you had a if you had to drive a
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: big van of five NFL players across the country NonStop,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: who are your five and why? I'll go first Kelsey Brothers.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Uh you know uh, Jason Kelsey is a huge music fan.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I feel like he would do a great job as
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: sort of the road trip DJ, and I think I
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: like his style of music. Patrick Mahomes Uh the guy
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: drink Corzlite like water.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: In that.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Golf tournament with Tom Brady and Rogers and Josh Allen,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: he just leaving like a baller. Joe Burrow, It's too
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: cool Von Miller because I think he would say all
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the interesting shit. And I'd also bring Mike McDaniel because
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: talk about having a good time, Simon, he would bring
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the good time.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Okay, this is an interesting thought experiment. I think it's
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: more important to identify the players you don't want to
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: bring than the players you do want to bring. Like
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: I don't want any divas, so like wide receivers and
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: cornerbacks like they are out. But if I had to
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: identify people actually to bring, I'm with you, I would
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: go with Kelsey. I would go with Travis Kelcey Wan
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: Kelsey brothers enough. I feel like if you had two
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: of them in the band together, they would get each
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: other riled up. So I want like that Kelsey Aura,
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: but I don't want it amplified, so want Kelsey. I
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: would have Kittle. This is cheating a little bit, but
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: I would have Marshaun Lynch. I still think of him
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: as an NFL player versus a retired NFL player, and
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: I feel like the vibe he would bring would be
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: very good with you, Mahomes, I think he would be
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: like an all around jokester. And then Jalen Hurts like
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: I feel like he would bring a little bit of
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: like solemnity to the proceedings, like in a good way,
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: like whenever you need just a little like someone just
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: bring it down a little bit. I feel like you
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: would help do that. Like he's the guy who brings
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: a literal briefcase to work every day, so I feel
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: like he has a sense of humor about him, but
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: also a certain type of seriousness. And then you had
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: a head coach. I will go with the head coach
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: as well. I would bring Andy Reid because I feel
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: like that dude has some stories and he could he
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: could cut up for the entire ride.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I think, and he reads a good choice too. Simon.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my first my first pig right away was Ricky Williams.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I've always loved Ricky He's actually now in like kind
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: of the social media world where he does his own
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: shows and he gives like horror scorpes, like he tells
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: people like their signs and all this other crap. I
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: don't care about any of that. I just want to
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: hear old stories from Ricky, Like that guy has lived
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: a crazy life. You know, he's gotta have some good stories.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I'm with chat about the Kelchier brothers. I gotta go
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: with both of them, Like Jason just seems like he's hilarious.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Travis seems like he's funniest hell too, So I like
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: both those picks. Mahomes is Kenny Powers, Like I don't
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: know if you ever seen that clip of they do
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Mahomes's voice dubbed over Kenny Powers. They literally sound the
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: exact same and they talk the same, like I really
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: my companion, So that would be a good one. Mahomes,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: He's just a character. This is actually an Eagles guy
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: though you probably never really like seem talk much, but
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: he's probably one of the funniest guys in the entire league.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Brandon Graham, Like he is hilarious. If you have time,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: go YouTube Brandon Graham talking shit. He is one of
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: the funniest guys in football, just smack talking and just
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: in life like he's very happy, go lucky. And I
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: feel like if you're doing a road trip, you always
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: need that one happy, go lucky guy because there's gonna
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: be dark days, right, There's gonna be days you're gonna
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: wake up, you're gonna taste the night before, and you
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: gotta drive about twelve hours on the road. You need
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: that person to keep you in the car. Entertained for
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: my last one, another Homer pick. I gotta go with Hurts.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I would just love to chill Hertz talk with him.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: He just seems like he's so deep, He's so knowledgeable
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: about life and motivation. He just seems like a good
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: dude to hang out with. So shocked to know. And
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I have three Eagles and then my five guys. I
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: drive across country with Hey A couple of things.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: A couple of things. The Ricky Williams pick, I'm envious
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: of that pick. Great pick there. If I had to
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: think of a player that I would sub in, I
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: would maybe do Justin Tucker because I feel like he
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: would be like Ry. He would have that kind of
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: like dry wit where like everyone else has senses of
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: humor that are kind of more aligned. He would sort
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: of be like the assassin who comes in with like
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: a really sharp quip that everyone is just like, oh,
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: did you hear that? So I don't know why. I
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: just feel like he would be He would be someone
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: who would like add a different angle to the proceedings
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: but still be really hilarious.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Great Ricky Williams story when I was tern chief of that.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: When I was edtern chief of the magazine, he's been
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: in the magazine was the Niners Ravens super Bowl in
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: New Orleans, and Ricky Williams at this time had retired.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: His last team was the Ravens, and he had recently
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: retired and he had started working as a photographer. So
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: we hired Ricky Williams to shoot from the sidelines the
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: super Bowl, including his old teammates the Ravens, and that
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Friday night we had a big dinner in New Orleans,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: a team dinner, and Ricky Williams joined us because he
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: was working for us that weekend, and my wife happened
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: to be at the Super Bowl in New Orleans, the
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: only super Bowl she ever came to. We have the
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: twenty five I've been to. It's the only one she
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: ever went to. And we were all having dinner in it. Now.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I happened to be at the end of the table
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: with my wife Stacy and Ricky, and Stacy's not a
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: sports fan. She has no idea who Ricky Williams is,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: and so she starts talking to Ricky about being a photographer,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and then it comes out that he had played football.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: She's like, Oh my god, that's so cool. Where did
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: you play? Were you any good? She didn't know he
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: had won a Heisman, she didn't know he had run
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: for more yards than anybody at Texas That she didn't
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: know the dickest story, right, And so he was so
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: charmed because he could just be Ricky Williams. And the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: person he was talking to was not enamored with him
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: because of football. She just thought he was a really cool,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: nice guy who had really great stories to tell and
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: a really interesting point of view. It was so fun
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: to sit with him that night. It was fantastic.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I heard the man.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: He's great, He's really great. We probably got to go faster. Simon,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: can you describe the specific NFL prep you do between
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: now July and Week one to prepare for the upcoming
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: NFL season.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I'm done at to this point, Like right now, I
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: did everything basically, if we went through, i'd give you
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: all my projections for every team pretty much like I've
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: already done the whole entire season, each week, went through
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: each week, I have each matchup, and then basically once
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: training camp starts. That's why I can start updating stuff
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: because there's a bunch of new teams. Right if you
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: have a new coach, that's a new scheme for the
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: offense vice versa. If it's a new quarterback and a
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: new scheme. And then defensively, it's a big deal when
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: different coordinators come in. I mean, is I think Vic
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Vangio did he go to Miami? I know he went
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: somewhere where It's like that's a big deal. Like Miami
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: now is getting one of the best defensive coordinators in
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: all football history, and they have a crazy good defense,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Like if you look at their defense on paper, they
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: have a ton of talent. So right now, that's going
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: to be an update once I see what scheme's gonna
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: run with that Miami defense, Because say, right now, I've
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: heard them projected as a top five defense. Once I
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: see their scheme, I start getting some numbers behind it,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: I'd easily can bump them up to a top three defense.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of thing where I'll make adjustments right
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: once training camp starts and I can start seeing these
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: different packages, and the beat writers are key, like I'm
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: that's my biggest advantage I think for everyone that does
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: social media is you get such good intel from these
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: beat writers. They're just they're locked in on certain teams.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: So to me, that's a big big deal to me.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Over August, especially where July, I'm tinkering with stuff, Chad,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: but it's kind of a dead period this time of year,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: just because I feel like most better is the same way,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: like once the draft happens, then you're just waiting for
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: the schedule release, and then all of a sudden, it's
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: like you're literally running through the whole season, Like it's
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: just you're just so excited you can't help but do
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: the work. And then I just do all the work,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, July comes, I got nothing
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: to do. So this is a little bit of a
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: dead period before August, which is once August starts, like
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: that's where it's just never ending. There's never enough information,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: like there's never enough work to be done. I try
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: to enjoy this period, but Chad knows I'm obsessed with football,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: so it's like this is the longest month of the
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: year for me. It really is because it's so close
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: to football, and I can talk football for days at
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: this point because it's like preseason is the best because
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: you can have on here talking about just the fields
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: as the top ten quarterback, I can't shit on it
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: because it's projecting out. We're all having fun projecting futures here.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: So that's why I just love this time of year.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: It's just fill with so much hope before your team's
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: zero and three in Week three and you're just like,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I fucking hate this sport. So I definitely enjoy this
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: time of year. It's just so much fun getting into football,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: especially the way it is our job now, right Chad,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: just as ports betting has grown, it becomes so cool
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: knowing how many people listen to what we say and
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: taking advantage of what the information we're giving out. Like again,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: we were giving out jaguar As nine to one at
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: this point last year win their division. There was only
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: maybe fifty Brave Souls out there that took that bet
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: with us, and that's what I love that there's people
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: out there that trust us and know we're doing the work.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: So this time here a little bit of a dead period,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: but once August starts, you know, July twenty fifth, I
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: think most teams are fully reported by July twenty fifth.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: That's when it's all day every day reading beat writers,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: trying to get information on each team, just because it's
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: so important to know what schemes teams are running, because
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't believe the Chad. There's just different weeks, there's
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: different scheme beat scheme, Like, it doesn't matter what kind
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: of players each side of the ball has, it's all
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: about what scheme matches up against other teams scheme. That's
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: why I talk all the time. Belichick is one of
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: the greatest coaches ever, just because every week he runs
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: a new scheme and not many coaches can do that.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: So definitely enjoy this final month, but I'm ready for August.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Simon, I agree. I agree with almost everything he's had there.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: The one a dendum I would add is that you
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: can shit on anything that Chad Milman says at any
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: time of the year. I'm going to be pretty insistent
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: on that.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Know what, that's accurate. I think that's generally the consensus. Yesterday,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: there's a new person working in HR in action and
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: three different people told her to dismiss everything I say,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: and all three of the people work for me. Here
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: we go, Russell Wilson. Question, as promised, what should we
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: expect from the rest of his career? How is he
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: going to be remembered? Does he have a camp? Here's
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: my prediction. He will go to the Hall of Fame.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: He won a Super Bowl, got to another one, lost
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: it not because of his fault, bad play calling, so
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: many clutch performances, two way threat only player with thirty
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: five thousand passing yards and forty five hundred rush yards.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I texted my buddy Seth Wickersham. You know, one of
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the most prominent sports writers covering the NFL for ESPN.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: He's been on the podcast. Great best selling book about
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: the Patriots is Better to Be Feared?
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Pick it up.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Here's from Seth. He's a mix of Boomer Assissin and
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Kurt Warner in terms of career, with Boomer really good
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: but not one of the clearly best of his era.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Like Warner and that he had high peaks and low lows,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: although Warner had higher peaks and lower lows, was not
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: convinced he was a Hall of Famer unless he has
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: sort of a couple of Warner like peaks.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Freedman, Yeah, I agree with a lot of what Wickersham said.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's a Hall of Famer. At no
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: point has he ever been like the best quarterback in
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: the league or even like a top two maybe a
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: top three quarterback. There have always been other guys better
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: than him among his peers. So I feel like if
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: he was going to get there, it had to be
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: a longevity argument like Breeze, like he would have an
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: extended run where he's not great, but he's good enough
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: and he can pile stats that push him over the top.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: But based on what we saw last year, I'm kind
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: of skeptical he actually ends up having that long tail.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's a Hall of famer.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Ban Yeah, definitely an incredible career. I mean it's a
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: kid that you know, played four years NC State, transfer
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: of fifth year to what was that Wisconsin, and yeah,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: you know that was one of those deals where when
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: he came out, I don't think anyone projected him to
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: do what he's done in his career. Where I not
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: that I give him too much weight for that first
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl because to me, that was just arguably one
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: of the greatest defenses ever and you had more Shawn
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Lynch like it really was Russell Wilson, don't screw this
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: up and will win a super Bowl. And the one
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: time he did screw up, they didn't win the Super Bowl,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: So that I will definitely always hold that against him
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: because everything you hear that's just pure ego, Like that
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: whole Super Bowl, every guy from that defense, they could
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: not wait the bad mouth him chat when he left
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: that Seahawks team, And I think that is a stain
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: where a lot of these beat writers are the ones
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: that are going to vote for him. There's gotta be
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: more to it there. There has to be so much
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: to it where Aaron Rodgers left Green Bay. If you
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: heard a peep at a Green Bay shitting on Aaron
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Rodgers chat, no, I had not really like it. That's
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: kind of how it is, where it's like, yeah, Aaron
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Rodgers might have been an asshole, he might have been
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: full of himself, but he was never above the team,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: and it seems like Russell Wilson towards the end there
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: thought he was above the team, right, You really really
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: let his ego get to himself. So if he can have,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: you know, another good run like kur Warner had that
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: one more run with that Arizona team, if he can
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: find something like that with Denver, I do think he'd
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: get into the Hall of Fame. If he doesn't, I'm
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: with Freeman, like the guy never finished Top three and
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: MVP voting his entire career. Again, I give him so
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: much respect because he was a fifth year player in
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: college and he came out whatever, he was a third
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: fourth round pick, and he was just incredible. Like his
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: skill set was so revolutionary for what we've seen now
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: in football, right that quarterback of get them outside the pocket,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: let them create with either their legs or taking the
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: ball deep. It was just a big transition of football.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: So I do think for football he was a big
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: deal because he's kind of set the stage here for
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: all these guys Lamar Jackson's of the world. Again, people
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: want to credit them like vic Vick really never did
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: much with his town when Russell Wilson did, so I
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  Speaker 2: think he was an opening to what we see now
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL, Like he changed football for the better.
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  Speaker 2: But a Hall of Famer, Chad, that's just such a
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: big ask for Well, we talk all the time, this
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: is the golden era of quarterbacks, Like, there's just so
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: many better quarterbacks over these last twenty years. So I
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  Speaker 2: can't put him in. It hurts the said, I just
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: can't put him in at this point. But if he
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: makes another run, doesn't he need to win Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 2: Just get back there. I gotta give it to him
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  Speaker 2: making three super Bowls in his career. He's obviously very
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: talented players, so he just needs to make one more run.
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  Speaker 2: I can see him getting in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm projecting, Like I'm projecting with Sean
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Payton and a stellar defense, at some point in the
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: next two to three years, he makes that one final run.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's it, right, we all agree that's the window.
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  Speaker 2: Like he's got two or three years left and then
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  Speaker 2: it's over.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly you know what, Simon. As we know
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  Speaker 1: and as people will hear on the podcast next week,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I can see into the future. My vision, my field
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: division is so big that I am willing to take
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: a risk and go out on a limb based on
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: what I am projecting, not just what I've seen in
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: the past.
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  Speaker 2: He was more humble you are, Russell Wilson, mister unlimited.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: See I was gonna go after Friedman and you came
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: after me. Listen last question. It's been discussed many times
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: in the podcast. My eating habits have been discussed. We
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: all know that I eat weird, old man bird foods.
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  Speaker 1: Even my kids make fun of me for the bird
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: food that I eat. Simon eats like a normal thirty
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  Speaker 1: something bachelor who lives as if he doesn't have a
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: care in the world. Any foods we both can enjoy,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: and this is true. I will read to you a
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Slack message I recently sent to Matt Mitchell of what
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I would need in my rider when we do our
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: live event in New Jersey the first Sunday of NFL season.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I need unsalted roasted cashews, lesser evil popcorns. I like
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  Speaker 1: it cooked in the coconut oil, not the seed oil.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: All natural peanut butter, honey, crisp apples, burl app and
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: barrel cinnamon. It's a very specific cinnamon. I need oranges.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I need classe, azuol tequila, the big ice cubes, eighty
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  Speaker 1: five percent cacao, chocolate bars, Perrier or Pellegrinos bar, loose leaf,
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  Speaker 1: earl gray tea if it's afternoon, Illy espresso if it's
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: before noon, along with the espresso maker or teapot whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I need some jigante beans in a light tomato sauce
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  Speaker 1: for a snack. I also like France a Franchi della
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  Speaker 1: cat olive oil. Simon, you can pick anything from that menu.
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  Speaker 2: I got to be left off Chad. It popped in
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  Speaker 2: my head, what one thing we love together? We both
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: love chocolate. I love chocolate, and I send my guy here, Chad,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: the best chocolate in your Charlotte's chocolate. I think Chad
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: ate the whole bag in one.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Night, which by myself blew my mind.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: So I would say, chocolate pretzels. Me and Chad see
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: eye to eye and chocolate pretzels. We could.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: We could definitely do that, Friedman. Can we see eye
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: to eye on anything? We can't? Usually?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess who says no to chocolate, big
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: ice cubes, honey, Chris bathols. That's good, those are good,
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: But like, where's the Where's the beef, you know, like,
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: put some meat in there. Get some meat.
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  Speaker 1: Are you kids?
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  Speaker 2: This guy? I think he eats meat.
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  Speaker 1: I don't eat if What is the matter with you?
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I'm saving the environment. Every day someone doesn't eat meat
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: is a better day for the world.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: I'm literally gonna be dead in ten years. I eat
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: bacon like every day, which is apparently the worst thing
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: you can eat.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what the difference is, I eat like
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I want to be superhuman and live forever. You're microdosin
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: getting high and eating bacon. Guess who's going to live
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: to a riper old age.
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  Speaker 2: Probably I got twenty years on you.
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