Latest / The People's News / Unite Local 23 Continues Strike at Houston Hilton; Conservative Flame-Thrower Charlie Kirk Killed in Utah - TPN 9/14/25

Transcript

Unite Local 23 Continues Strike at Houston Hilton; Conservative Flame-Thrower Charlie Kirk Killed in Utah - TPN 9/14/25 · The People's News

0:03
Speaker 1: It's the week of September fourteenth, twenty twenty five, and
0:06
Speaker 1: this is what's on the People's News. Workers continued to
0:10
Speaker 1: strike at the Hilton Hotel in Houston. Conservative firebrand Charlie
0:16
Speaker 1: kirk Hill Texas GOP redistricting and what is next. Versions
0:25
Speaker 1: around the world call for the overthrow of the Iranian government.
0:31
Speaker 1: All that and more on the People's News. I'm Steve Gallington.
0:35
Speaker 1: This is the People's News, and the People's News starts now.
0:45
Speaker 1: Union workers of the Hilton Hotel in downtown Houston voted
0:49
Speaker 1: to continue their strike until the twentieth of this month.
0:53
Speaker 1: Union workers walked out on strike, as reported on this show,
0:57
Speaker 1: fighting for higher wages and more benefit. Some at the
1:02
Speaker 1: Hilton have not had a raise in more than twenty
1:04
Speaker 1: plus years they have been with a company. Others work
1:08
Speaker 1: two or three jobs just to make it buye Unite
1:12
Speaker 1: here twenty three, The union representing the workers stated that
1:15
Speaker 1: the latest negotiations only lasted a short time. Now the
1:19
Speaker 1: Mayor of Houston, John Whitmyer, is involved by canceling his
1:22
Speaker 1: State of the Union function at the hotel and the
1:25
Speaker 1: city run gala that was to be at the hotel.
1:28
Speaker 1: We talked to Francesca Caraballo, Texas Chapter president of Unite
1:34
Speaker 1: Here Local twenty three downtown on Saturday.
1:38
Speaker 2: Yes, we decided to extend after you know, having a
1:42
Speaker 2: conversation with the company and them coming back with you know,
1:47
Speaker 2: we can't even call it a real offer.
1:49
Speaker 3: When we came back to the workers and.
1:51
Speaker 2: Let them know what the company had said, workers unanimously
1:54
Speaker 2: said we got to stay out.
1:56
Speaker 3: We can't go back in. So we decided to extend
1:58
Speaker 3: to strike ten more days.
2:00
Speaker 4: Okay, how's it gonna hold up for you guys?
2:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're on day stay thirteen and workers
2:10
Speaker 2: are feeling feeling strong. I mean, it really agitated them
2:14
Speaker 2: the news from the company, and it just shows that
2:17
Speaker 2: the workers are standing firm.
2:19
Speaker 3: They don't want to give up until they get what
2:21
Speaker 3: they deserve. It's long overdue, so they're willing to do
2:24
Speaker 3: what it takes.
2:25
Speaker 4: Did they come and offer anything anything positive?
2:30
Speaker 3: Or I mean not not really.
2:33
Speaker 2: I mean they came back with like another fifty cents,
2:37
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean they they originally offered fifty cents
2:42
Speaker 2: at the table, and so that's for.
2:47
Speaker 4: That was it.
2:48
Speaker 3: You're trying to get twenty three, We're trying to get
2:50
Speaker 3: twenty three. They offered, you know, over a five year span.
2:53
Speaker 2: They want to They had originally offered three twenty five
2:56
Speaker 2: over five years.
2:57
Speaker 3: So some of the.
2:57
Speaker 2: Workers again they're making sixteen to fifty, so they won't
3:01
Speaker 2: even make it to twenty by twenty thirty.
3:03
Speaker 3: Sou with the.
3:05
Speaker 2: With the offer that they put on the table back
3:07
Speaker 2: in July, you know, under twenty dollars, we want twenty
3:11
Speaker 2: three now. So you know, they came back after a
3:16
Speaker 2: week of striking and said, okay, we'll bump it up
3:18
Speaker 2: to you know, we'll pump it up another fifty cents basically.
3:21
Speaker 3: So that wasn't obviously.
3:24
Speaker 4: Fifty cent straight three years.
3:27
Speaker 5: It's not, it's not it's not immediate.
3:30
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure like how it was going to
3:32
Speaker 2: be phased in, but I just know the total package
3:35
Speaker 2: was three seventy five over five years. Obviously, that's that's unacceptable,
3:39
Speaker 2: that's not that doesn't meet the needs of the workers
3:42
Speaker 2: living in Houston in twenty.
3:43
Speaker 3: Twenty five, souh.
3:45
Speaker 2: You know, hence why workers were you know, ready to
3:51
Speaker 2: do whatever it takes, so they voted to extend the strike.
3:53
Speaker 4: Does this include everybody just play differently, right, Yeah, different classifications.
4:00
Speaker 3: More, there are tips, Yeah, there are tipped workers.
4:04
Speaker 2: So tip workers do make you know, less than the
4:07
Speaker 2: sixteen fifty hourly workers, but you know, their wages mostly
4:10
Speaker 2: made up by tips. So but we are fighting for
4:13
Speaker 2: tip workers. We're fighting for better gratuity, right, we need
4:16
Speaker 2: higher gratuities. The Hilton is behind when it comes to that.
4:20
Speaker 2: Most establishments are at least twenty to twenty five you know, gratuities.
4:26
Speaker 2: Some of these workers are still having to coast by
4:28
Speaker 2: on eighteen fifteen. It's just not it's not reasonable at
4:32
Speaker 2: all for a luxurious hotel like Hilton to refuse to
4:37
Speaker 2: move up the gratuity. So we're not just ready for
4:39
Speaker 2: the hourly workers. You know, we're also a union of
4:43
Speaker 2: tipped employees as well.
4:44
Speaker 4: What about the aspect of the mayor support of you guys,
4:47
Speaker 4: I guess you guys went to city Hall.
4:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we went to city Hall.
4:50
Speaker 2: We backed the room on Tuesday, we had several powerful
4:53
Speaker 2: speakers share why they're on strike. You know, got some
4:58
Speaker 2: responses from the from the city count and and the mayor.
5:02
Speaker 2: But I think workers really felt that boost of support when.
5:07
Speaker 3: The mayor's announcement came out.
5:08
Speaker 2: I think it was the next day, he announced that
5:11
Speaker 2: he was postponing his.
5:12
Speaker 3: State of the City at at at the Hilton.
5:15
Speaker 2: So that's a big move, you know, where the words
5:18
Speaker 2: maybe didn't satisfy a lot of people.
5:20
Speaker 3: That action spoke, you know, spoke louder so that.
5:24
Speaker 4: Making any statement for the for the Hilton to say
5:27
Speaker 4: anything about it.
5:29
Speaker 3: Not that I'm aware of.
5:30
Speaker 2: I haven't heard any statement from the Hilton, but I
5:32
Speaker 2: know that it means a lot to the workers that,
5:34
Speaker 2: you know, the mayor took this action.
5:35
Speaker 3: And you know, this morning we had the Democra the Harrison.
5:38
Speaker 2: County Democratic Party also announced that they're postponing their gala
5:42
Speaker 2: that was supposed to take place here on the twentieth,
5:45
Speaker 2: So that really excited the workers. There's a momentum, momentum
5:49
Speaker 2: right now that the workers are feeling and uh and
5:52
Speaker 2: are feeling.
5:53
Speaker 4: Very strong and supported meeting with.
5:57
Speaker 2: I believe we have some meetings maybe next week. I'm
6:01
Speaker 2: not too sure, but I believe there's gonna be.
6:03
Speaker 3: Some some conversations happening next week.
6:06
Speaker 4: That's going and any possible to come out of.
6:09
Speaker 3: That or is this a general I think so.
6:12
Speaker 2: I mean they have to be feeling the pressure. I mean,
6:14
Speaker 2: all eyes are on them right now. The city you know,
6:18
Speaker 2: slowly but surely her coalescing around the workers.
6:20
Speaker 3: And I think that the.
6:22
Speaker 2: Hilton's feeling And how can you not. I mean, it's
6:24
Speaker 2: a city owned hotel and the city council, the mayor,
6:27
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party, like, they've come out very strongly in
6:31
Speaker 2: support of the workers.
6:32
Speaker 3: So I think that's going to move the needle.
6:33
Speaker 4: All the hotel explain it.
6:37
Speaker 2: It's a yeah, it's owned by the by the City
6:39
Speaker 2: by Houston First, which is like a quasi you know,
6:42
Speaker 2: governmental agency, So they are.
6:46
Speaker 3: The owners of the hotel. Hilton manages the hotel.
6:49
Speaker 2: We bargain with Hilton, but ultimately Hilly Houston person the
6:53
Speaker 2: City of Houston have a lot of influence over what
6:55
Speaker 2: happens here and so for them to you know, take
6:59
Speaker 2: these actions now, it's it shows, you know, the pressure's
7:02
Speaker 2: mounting on.
7:03
Speaker 3: Hilton management to come to the table with a real offer.
7:07
Speaker 4: What do you need is for a support from the community.
7:09
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like I said, we have extended the strike.
7:13
Speaker 3: Workers are out of work. It's a big sacrifice. So
7:15
Speaker 3: we do have go fund me out there that's being
7:18
Speaker 3: shared on social media.
7:19
Speaker 2: So anybody that could that's a that's the biggest way
7:22
Speaker 2: to support right now because people still got to pay
7:23
Speaker 2: their bills and support their family. So we're a lot
7:27
Speaker 2: of workers are depending on these donations to roll in
7:30
Speaker 2: and otherwise, I mean coming to the picket line. Sharing,
7:33
Speaker 2: sharing our stories on social media is a big is.
7:36
Speaker 3: A big help as well.
7:38
Speaker 4: Go fund me is unite here.
7:41
Speaker 2: Yes, it was created by by us by unite here.
7:44
Speaker 2: You know, it's on our social media pages.
7:46
Speaker 4: So social media paree.
7:48
Speaker 3: Local twenty Yeah, you know, I hear Local twenty three and.
7:51
Speaker 4: That's where you can find find out about donating, yes, correct, Yes, cool,
7:56
Speaker 4: and they can come down and people want to come
7:58
Speaker 4: down and help out and do that too.
8:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
8:01
Speaker 2: We have people coming down every day to the picket line.
8:03
Speaker 2: We're out here usually from seven am to like seven pm.
8:06
Speaker 3: We have picket lines.
8:07
Speaker 2: We do take break because it's hot out here, but
8:09
Speaker 2: you know, come by and stick around for picketing.
8:13
Speaker 1: That was Francesca Carbalo, Texas Chapter president of unite here
8:17
Speaker 1: Local twenty three. They are continuing their strike against the
8:22
Speaker 1: Hilton Hotel in downtown Houston. Their Facebook page is unite
8:27
Speaker 1: here Local twenty three. There is a school of thought
8:31
Speaker 1: out there that says to defeat corruption, criminality, and cruelty,
8:37
Speaker 1: we also need to become corrupt, criminal, and cruel To
8:43
Speaker 1: my very core, I do not believe that to be
8:46
Speaker 1: the case, so I look for inspiration from others. Let's
8:52
Speaker 1: take a listen to what Martin Luther King said about
8:56
Speaker 1: fighting a illegal and corrupt and criminal enemy. One of
9:01
Speaker 1: the things I constantly return to during dark times in
9:05
Speaker 1: my personal and public life is a collection of sermons
9:09
Speaker 1: written by Martin Luther King Junior called Strength to Love,
9:14
Speaker 1: and specifically a sermon on loving your enemies. I'm reading
9:18
Speaker 1: an excerpt from that sermon. To our most bitter opponents,
9:23
Speaker 1: we say, we shall match your capacity to inflict suffering
9:28
Speaker 1: by our capacity to endure suffering. We shall meet your
9:32
Speaker 1: physical force with soul force. Due to us what you will,
9:37
Speaker 1: and we shall continue to love you. We cannot, in
9:41
Speaker 1: all good conscious obey your unjust laws, because non cooperation
9:46
Speaker 1: with evil is as much a moral obligation as cooperation
9:50
Speaker 1: with good. Throw us in jail, and we shall still
9:53
Speaker 1: love you. Send your hooded perpetrators of violence into our
9:57
Speaker 1: community at the midnight hour and be eat us and
10:00
Speaker 1: leave us half dead. And we shall still love you,
10:05
Speaker 1: but be ye assured that we will wear you down
10:08
Speaker 1: by our capacity to suffer. One day we shall win freedom,
10:13
Speaker 1: but not only for ourselves. We shall so appeal to
10:16
Speaker 1: your heart and conscience that we shall win you in
10:20
Speaker 1: the process, and our victory will be a double victory.
10:25
Speaker 1: Love is the most durable power in the world. White supremacist, misogynist,
10:31
Speaker 1: an advocate of violence against woke liberals, Charlie Kirk was
10:36
Speaker 1: killed while giving a speech at Utah Valley University in Orum, Utah.
10:41
Speaker 1: Kirk founded Turning Point USA and was a loud and
10:45
Speaker 1: proud right wing conspiracy theorist and pushed hard for the
10:49
Speaker 1: release of the Epstein files. We talked to local Republican
10:53
Speaker 1: strategist Vlad Daviduk about his death.
10:58
Speaker 6: Yeah. No, what happened on Wednesday, the tenth of September
11:07
Speaker 6: will go down as a pivotal inflection point, a tipping
11:13
Speaker 6: point in American history. I think it's right up there
11:16
Speaker 6: with the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, President Kennedy, Martin Luther King,
11:25
Speaker 6: Robert F. Kennedy. I think it ranks up there with
11:30
Speaker 6: those historical moments, simply because of the tension that we've
11:35
Speaker 6: we're seeing in society right now in American culture, where
11:40
Speaker 6: we're very sharply divided. And we saw that very clearly
11:43
Speaker 6: the election in twenty twenty four when just over half
11:47
Speaker 6: of Americans voted for President Trump but just under half
11:52
Speaker 6: voted for Kamala Harris. So we are a sharply divided nation,
11:58
Speaker 6: and clearly we do not eyed eye on a huge
12:01
Speaker 6: array of issues, and we have reached a point where
12:05
Speaker 6: both sides see the other as not only fundamentally opposite
12:13
Speaker 6: and ideologically opposed, but what we have seen increasingly and
12:21
Speaker 6: recent events really seem to point directly towards radical and
12:26
Speaker 6: extreme leftism as the primary source of violence in this country,
12:31
Speaker 6: where we're seeing targeted killings. Yeah, certainly we saw it
12:36
Speaker 6: with the murder of the United Healthcare CEO. We saw
12:40
Speaker 6: it with the attempted assassination of President Trump. Both times
12:44
Speaker 6: we've seen it. We saw it on that commuter train
12:48
Speaker 6: in Charlotte where a career criminals had been released by
12:52
Speaker 6: a Democrat judge slaughtered an innocent twenty three year old
12:57
Speaker 6: Ukrainian refugee. And now we see it on Wednesday at
13:04
Speaker 6: a college campus in Utah where you know what is
13:08
Speaker 6: now emerging now that the fat has captured. The alleged
13:12
Speaker 6: assassin appears to be a leftist member of the Democrats
13:18
Speaker 6: Democratic Socialist Party who apparently was motivated by hatred who
13:23
Speaker 6: assassinated Charlie Kirk. So what we're seeing increasingly is a
13:27
Speaker 6: sharply divided nation where one side is beginning to resort
13:34
Speaker 6: to violent threats, intimidation, and murder to push forward an agenda.
13:41
Speaker 6: And sadly, we're seeing people on the right being targeted
13:47
Speaker 6: and hunted for standing.
13:51
Speaker 7: In the way.
13:51
Speaker 6: And it's unfortunate that we've reached this point. We should
13:54
Speaker 6: not be here, but we need to find a way
13:58
Speaker 6: to address the situation.
14:01
Speaker 5: You say that to be honestly, the the shooter has
14:05
Speaker 5: not been caught yet, and so I can't say any
14:09
Speaker 5: speculations on us Democrat or Republican or way what it was.
14:14
Speaker 6: Well, the SBI, the f guys reporting I was already
14:17
Speaker 6: held the past conference that they've arrested the the shooter.
14:20
Speaker 6: He was turned in by his father. He was he
14:25
Speaker 6: was he was turned in by his father. Thousands of
14:28
Speaker 6: tips came in, they've they've already identified him. He's he's
14:33
Speaker 6: a he's a resident of Utah. His name is Tyler Robinson,
14:40
Speaker 6: and what we what we're seeing now out Piers Morgan
14:45
Speaker 6: and other members of the media have already been reporting
14:49
Speaker 6: that Tyler Robinson, apparently who confessed to his father that
14:54
Speaker 6: he killed Charlie Kirk, did so because he viewed Charlie
14:58
Speaker 6: Kirk as a fascist and he hated his opinions. Uh,
15:02
Speaker 6: he wanted to silence him and he Uh. Just a
15:06
Speaker 6: review of his of his social media posts and his
15:10
Speaker 6: presence on digital media shows that he's a leftist. He's
15:14
Speaker 6: a member of the Democratic Socialist Party and Socialist Socialist movement.
15:19
Speaker 6: And if increasingly that seems to the pattern that we're
15:23
Speaker 6: seeing across the nation where I mean, just recently we
15:27
Speaker 6: saw a trans several violent incidents involving trans shooters, most
15:36
Speaker 6: recently in in a in a church where trans shooter
15:41
Speaker 6: shot through a window, killing kids. So we're seeing we're
15:46
Speaker 6: seeing also you're.
15:48
Speaker 5: Also forgetting some of some of the incidents that that
15:52
Speaker 5: people from the right have done also, especially in Minnesota,
15:55
Speaker 5: was shooting in Minnesota.
15:57
Speaker 6: Well, and that that has not that's still in the
16:03
Speaker 6: process of being investigated. That there's a lot of questions
16:06
Speaker 6: regarding that. What we're talking about is what we're talking
16:09
Speaker 6: about the things that happened most recently, which has been
16:12
Speaker 6: leading which which which led up to this event that
16:15
Speaker 6: happened on Wednesday, And so you know, it's it's becoming
16:19
Speaker 6: increasingly there are incidents that we can point to where
16:24
Speaker 6: someone whosified with the rights politically has been involved in
16:29
Speaker 6: an act of violence and the act of aggression. But
16:34
Speaker 6: what we're seeing is we're seeing a very skewed balance.
16:38
Speaker 6: We're increasingly what we're seeing is those who have engaged
16:43
Speaker 6: in this behavior appear to be people not either either
16:47
Speaker 6: politically aligned with the left or who have identified identified
16:53
Speaker 6: with a perspective and opinions that are antithetical or hostile
16:59
Speaker 6: to the right. So it may not necessarily be that
17:02
Speaker 6: they are adherents of leftist politics, but they are opposed
17:09
Speaker 6: and hostile to those who are on the conservative side
17:13
Speaker 6: of the of the political aisle.
17:15
Speaker 5: You don't think the president has inflamed a lot of
17:19
Speaker 5: the divide the devices some of the things that you
17:23
Speaker 5: said in the past.
17:26
Speaker 6: I find it difficult to believe that anyone, much less
17:32
Speaker 6: the President, expressing an opinion on an issue would be
17:39
Speaker 6: a rationale for the kind of violence that we're seeing.
17:43
Speaker 6: I can understand if the President of the United States
17:47
Speaker 6: or anyone else says anything that is contrary to a
17:51
Speaker 6: particular opinion or a particular perspective, I can see that
17:54
Speaker 6: leading to political action. I can see that leading to
18:02
Speaker 6: grassroots or community based action. But what we're seeing almost
18:08
Speaker 6: on a consistent basis is people on the right speak,
18:14
Speaker 6: and people on what something is people on the left
18:17
Speaker 6: take violent action, and so it's become increasingly disparate and
18:24
Speaker 6: unbalanced with regard to the outcome.
18:28
Speaker 7: That we're seeing.
18:29
Speaker 6: So does President Trump say things that are inflammatory, yes.
18:33
Speaker 6: Does President Trump say things that lead people to feel
18:39
Speaker 6: emotions of frustration and anger, yes, Do any of those
18:44
Speaker 6: things justify the kind of violence that we're seeing perpetrated
18:48
Speaker 6: across our country. Absolutely not. And so we can't equate
18:54
Speaker 6: the actions of one side with the actions of the
18:58
Speaker 6: other side. I think that what we've what we're missing.
19:01
Speaker 6: The point of American democracy is to engage and debate,
19:07
Speaker 6: find common ground, seek consensus, and work to build solutions
19:14
Speaker 6: that lift up the majority of the people. And while
19:19
Speaker 6: while while many are continuing to engage in trying to
19:25
Speaker 6: achieve exactly that, what we're seeing increasingly on the other side,
19:30
Speaker 6: is very hostile response.
19:34
Speaker 7: Engaged into violence, eating their opposition with.
19:43
Speaker 6: Uh the worst of the worst, and inciting others and
19:47
Speaker 6: emboldening and enabling others to carry out horrible acts of
19:52
Speaker 6: violence and atrocities that are affecting people across the country.
19:58
Speaker 6: It has to stop.
20:02
Speaker 5: I'll leave it at that, Doctor Adam says, Hi, by
20:05
Speaker 5: the way, I will say that, I will say this.
20:15
Speaker 5: When I was talking to him about redistricting, he made
20:18
Speaker 5: some of the points that you made, even though he
20:21
Speaker 5: is on on on the liberal side. Yea, he made
20:25
Speaker 5: some of the same points you made on the on
20:27
Speaker 5: the aspect of redistricting and timing of using the Sensus
20:34
Speaker 5: as account.
20:36
Speaker 8: So you guys page like it or not, that's amazing.
20:41
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got to have you guys on at.
20:43
Speaker 5: The same time at some point.
20:45
Speaker 6: I think that would be great. And you know, it's
20:47
Speaker 6: interesting you mentioned him as a liberal. What we've seen
20:51
Speaker 6: in America is that liberals and conservatives have a way
20:55
Speaker 6: of working together, finding solutions, trying to find a compromise,
21:00
Speaker 6: and trying to create opportunities for the vast majority. But
21:06
Speaker 6: we're not seeing We should not equate liberals with leftists,
21:12
Speaker 6: because what we're seeing now is there there is a
21:16
Speaker 6: there is another stripe of people on the left who
21:22
Speaker 6: are not liberals, They're not Democrats, they're hardcore leftists, and
21:27
Speaker 6: that's where we're seeing the vast majority of this violence
21:30
Speaker 6: come from. So, you know, I want to make absolutely clear,
21:34
Speaker 6: Republicans have very little problem with liberals. We can handle
21:39
Speaker 6: a regular liberal who just believes shares a lot of
21:45
Speaker 6: the same values, just has a different perspective on how
21:49
Speaker 6: we solve some of the problems. But leftists are an
21:52
Speaker 6: entirely different breed. And regarding what we saw happen in
21:56
Speaker 6: Utah with Charlie Kirk and now the arrest of alleged
22:00
Speaker 6: assassin Tyler Robinson, what we're seeing is we're seeing violent
22:06
Speaker 6: leftists who are carrying out acts of violence because they
22:10
Speaker 6: have been emboldened and they have been enabled by people
22:13
Speaker 6: saying that Republicans conservatives are fascists, not conservatives or Nazis.
22:19
Speaker 6: Donald Trump is a dictator. This is the right wing
22:24
Speaker 6: white supremacy movement. And when you tell people on the
22:29
Speaker 6: left like that, when you tell them those words repeatedly,
22:33
Speaker 6: they feel that they have permission, They feel that they
22:35
Speaker 6: have a calling they feel that they have a mission
22:39
Speaker 6: to go out and create these acts of violence and
22:43
Speaker 6: to carry out these acts of violence, and so that
22:46
Speaker 6: that's what we need to find a way to stop.
22:48
Speaker 6: I think if liberals and conservatives, Republicans and Democrats can
22:51
Speaker 6: work together to find solutions for that and to work
22:55
Speaker 6: on minimizing and eradicating violent leftism, I think we'll make
23:02
Speaker 6: a huge progress for our country. So, you know, I
23:04
Speaker 6: have no problem with doctor Ava, you know, being a liberal.
23:09
Speaker 6: I'm I'm a conservative. I think we can find ways
23:11
Speaker 6: to work together, but but our country needs to really
23:14
Speaker 6: find a way to stop radical leftists.
23:18
Speaker 5: Uh. And the way I always called you a liberal conservative.
23:26
Speaker 6: That's that's that's definitely one way. That's definitely one way
23:29
Speaker 6: to to to think about it. I've always considered myself
23:34
Speaker 6: to be a a rational conservative because I think that
23:41
Speaker 6: we have we have issues that we need to solve.
23:44
Speaker 6: We can't just say no, we're not going to do
23:46
Speaker 6: anything about any of it. So we need to we
23:49
Speaker 6: need to find solutions. But we can't do it if
23:51
Speaker 6: if if one side is calling us, you know, a
23:55
Speaker 6: blanket term Nazis or fascists, and that we're basically there's
23:59
Speaker 6: no reason and to allow us to keep living so,
24:02
Speaker 6: and we need to find a way to make that stop.
24:05
Speaker 1: That was Republican strategist vlad David Duk on the death
24:09
Speaker 1: of Charlie Kirk, who was shot and killed on Wednesday.
24:14
Speaker 1: There is a school of thought out there that says
24:16
Speaker 1: to defeat corruption, criminality, and cruelty, we also need to
24:23
Speaker 1: become corrupt, criminal, and cruel. To my very core, I
24:28
Speaker 1: do not believe that to be the case, so I
24:32
Speaker 1: look for inspiration from others. Let's take a listen to
24:37
Speaker 1: what Martin Luther King said about fighting a illegal and
24:42
Speaker 1: corrupt and criminal enemy. One of the things I constantly
24:47
Speaker 1: returned to during dark times in my personal and public
24:50
Speaker 1: life is a collection of sermons written by Martin Luther
24:54
Speaker 1: King Junior called Strength to Love, and specifically a ger
25:00
Speaker 1: on loving your enemies. I'm reading an excerpt from that sermon.
25:05
Speaker 1: To our most bitter opponents, we say we shall match
25:09
Speaker 1: your capacity to inflict suffering by our capacity to endure suffering.
25:15
Speaker 1: We shall meet your physical force with soul force. Do
25:19
Speaker 1: to us what you will, and we shall continue to
25:23
Speaker 1: love you. We cannot, in all good conscious obey your
25:27
Speaker 1: unjust laws, because non cooperation with evil is as much
25:31
Speaker 1: a moral obligation as cooperation with good. Throw us in jail,
25:36
Speaker 1: and we shall still love you. Send your hooded perpetrators
25:40
Speaker 1: of violence into our community at the midnight hour and
25:43
Speaker 1: beat us and leave us half dead, and we shall
25:46
Speaker 1: still love you. But be ye assured that we will
25:51
Speaker 1: wear you down by our capacity to suffer. One day
25:55
Speaker 1: we shall win freedom, but not only for ourselves. We
25:59
Speaker 1: shall so appeal to your heart and conscience that we
26:03
Speaker 1: shall win you in the process, and our victory will
26:06
Speaker 1: be a double victory. Love is the most durable power
26:11
Speaker 1: in the world. Hi, this is Steve Gallington, producer and
26:15
Speaker 1: host of The People's News. The People's News is people
26:19
Speaker 1: powered news. We are free to report the unvarnished and
26:23
Speaker 1: unspun truth and challenge the status quo of corporate propaganda
26:28
Speaker 1: and social media advertising disguised as real news. Shiny new
26:33
Speaker 1: one hour episodes of The People's News drop each Sunday
26:37
Speaker 1: on The People's News podcast. Thanks for listening. The convicted
26:43
Speaker 1: felon Trump demanded it, and GOP Governor Greg Abbott and
26:49
Speaker 1: the Texas GOP bowed to his wishes and passed redistricting
26:54
Speaker 1: in a explosive special session. These newly approved maps which
27:00
Speaker 1: give five more safe Republican districts to the convicted felon
27:06
Speaker 1: and to the Republican Party for Democrats, who are the
27:10
Speaker 1: slim majority in the state. It affects minority communities, especially
27:15
Speaker 1: around Dallas and Houston. For example, longtime Congressman Al Green
27:21
Speaker 1: has had his district expanded to include Liberty County, which
27:25
Speaker 1: is a Republican leaning area. Doctor Michael O. Adams is
27:29
Speaker 1: the director of the Master of Public Affairs graduate program
27:33
Speaker 1: at Texas Southern University's Barbara Jordan Mickey Leland's School of
27:37
Speaker 1: Public Affairs. He has been speaking on the issue and
27:41
Speaker 1: the future of democracy in Texas.
27:44
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a good question, because, of course, in Houston
27:48
Speaker 8: you have the largest concentration of African Americans or Blacks
27:52
Speaker 8: in this area out of one of two metroplexes, the
27:55
Speaker 8: otherland being up in the Dallas Footwork Metroplexic and ironically
27:59
Speaker 8: both of those were impacted with the redistricting process. And
28:04
Speaker 8: I'll move from Houston to talk about Dallas and how
28:08
Speaker 8: that's implicated both Dallas County and Terran County. But I've
28:14
Speaker 8: been interviewed back and forth on this, and what I
28:19
Speaker 8: always like to suggest, I think what we're seeing here
28:21
Speaker 8: is a classic case or a master class in terms
28:24
Speaker 8: of vote manipulation, in terms of where given the growth
28:31
Speaker 8: of Latinos and the black population in Texas following the
28:36
Speaker 8: last census count and I think it was over increase
28:39
Speaker 8: of over a million, there has been a concerted design
28:45
Speaker 8: not only with this recycle of redistricting, but the last
28:51
Speaker 8: mass of the twenty twenty one mass that were drawn.
28:56
Speaker 8: They are curently in litigation in federal coup in El Paso.
29:02
Speaker 8: And so the Republican Party understands the growth of the
29:10
Speaker 8: minority population in the state of Texas, who more than
29:15
Speaker 8: likely will not be Republican voters. So what they've done
29:20
Speaker 8: is to excuse me to manipulate the mass to make
29:25
Speaker 8: sure that they would have a parson advantage inside of
29:29
Speaker 8: these congressional districts. Now, the other part of that, we
29:32
Speaker 8: know that we have a midterm election coming up, and
29:37
Speaker 8: as the President of the United States, Donald Trump actually
29:40
Speaker 8: reached out to Greg Abbott and said that, well, hey,
29:44
Speaker 8: I need five more seats. And as a result of that,
29:49
Speaker 8: we knew that there was going to be a special
29:52
Speaker 8: session to deal with the devastating floods that we have
29:56
Speaker 8: and I think more than one hundred people may have
29:59
Speaker 8: lost their lives, lives are they're missing, And so the
30:05
Speaker 8: legislature goes back into special session. And when they're in
30:08
Speaker 8: the special session, UH, the registricting charge is added to
30:13
Speaker 8: the agenda. And as we know, UH that only the
30:17
Speaker 8: governor in the state of Texas. This is by the law,
30:19
Speaker 8: and I teach teach this in Texas politics, only the
30:22
Speaker 8: governor can call and convene a special session. And while
30:26
Speaker 8: they're in special session, UH, they're confined to the governor's agenda,
30:31
Speaker 8: and if something needs to be added, is up to
30:34
Speaker 8: the governor to add that agenda. So that's that's why
30:37
Speaker 8: we hear UH in terms of looking at the redistrictant.
30:41
Speaker 8: Now moving forward, do you do you do you have
30:43
Speaker 8: a question or you want me to move to Houston
30:45
Speaker 8: and talk about the impact in terms of.
30:47
Speaker 5: Well, I was just I was just curious if if
30:51
Speaker 5: if Trump didn't didn't put this on the on the
30:53
Speaker 5: on the on the plate, would we have had a
30:56
Speaker 5: special session?
30:58
Speaker 8: Now we were going to have a special session anyway
31:00
Speaker 8: to deal with the floods. All right, the question would
31:03
Speaker 8: from you, uh, would be would the district have been
31:07
Speaker 8: on the special session agenda? Is that understanding what you're asking?
31:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, basically didn't have Oh if we didn't
31:16
Speaker 5: have this flood, would we have had a special session?
31:19
Speaker 5: Of gain with you? What do you just what do
31:20
Speaker 5: you still call a special session?
31:23
Speaker 8: Well, most people don't understand. According to the US Constitution,
31:28
Speaker 8: we are supposed to count the population based on what
31:32
Speaker 8: we call a decential basis. That's every ten years. That's
31:35
Speaker 8: in the Constitution to deal with the apportionment of the
31:39
Speaker 8: House of Representatives in terms of we count people. And
31:43
Speaker 8: I tell my students all the time because sometimes redistricting
31:46
Speaker 8: is not understood, and I'm hoping what the only positive
31:49
Speaker 8: things can come from this is that people will know
31:52
Speaker 8: about redistricting and how the implications that had for politics
31:57
Speaker 8: h and how it governs their lives and also in
32:01
Speaker 8: terms of resources coming into their state. All right, now,
32:07
Speaker 8: we have five hundred and thirty five members of the Congress,
32:13
Speaker 8: and we have a bi camer Congress, two chambers in
32:17
Speaker 8: the House of Representatives. The representation there is based upon
32:22
Speaker 8: population is proportional and in all four hundred and thirty
32:27
Speaker 8: five members of the House of Representatives should represent approximately
32:32
Speaker 8: the same number of people. So we know that people
32:35
Speaker 8: move in population swales, all right. So we've seen growth
32:40
Speaker 8: in population in California, which is the largest in terms
32:43
Speaker 8: of population. They have the largest delegation of more than
32:46
Speaker 8: fifty members of the Congress of the House Representatives. And
32:51
Speaker 8: then the state of Texas we have thirty eight and
32:54
Speaker 8: the population there. In Florida, the population is gone. So
32:57
Speaker 8: people will move from Rush Belts states, they'll come from Michigan,
33:01
Speaker 8: they'll come from other people. So those states can lose representation.
33:05
Speaker 8: Because what you do how you get to the desirable
33:09
Speaker 8: number of how many people each member of the House
33:13
Speaker 8: of Representatives should represent. You take four thirty five and
33:17
Speaker 8: you divide that into the population of the United States
33:20
Speaker 8: of America, and so the ideal population will be between
33:25
Speaker 8: eight hundred and nine hundred thousand for each congressional district.
33:31
Speaker 8: And that's the way we come up with that number,
33:33
Speaker 8: all right. And there's no mathematical exactness, like we'll say
33:38
Speaker 8: eight fifty if that's the number. We know that CIVI
33:41
Speaker 8: or Garcia may have eight forty, or Algreen could have
33:46
Speaker 8: eight twenty, So the Supreme Court will allow for what
33:51
Speaker 8: we call some deviation, and normally that deviation is within
33:54
Speaker 8: ten percent. However, you cannot have one member of Congress
33:59
Speaker 8: represents any four hundred people, and if you have one
34:02
Speaker 8: of the other congress persons representing eight hundred, because why
34:07
Speaker 8: because a person with one hundred four hundred here's or
34:11
Speaker 8: her vote would be twice the impact. So it has
34:14
Speaker 8: to be equal in terms of population. So that's the
34:17
Speaker 8: standard formula, and so people have to understand that. So
34:21
Speaker 8: when they draw these districts. Now, the US Supreme Court
34:25
Speaker 8: doesn't restrict them from calling redistricting the districts at any time,
34:32
Speaker 8: and most people understand that. And normally what has happened
34:35
Speaker 8: in the past is after the census has taken every
34:39
Speaker 8: ten years, that's in your basis, that's in the constitution.
34:42
Speaker 8: Where then after that, normally during the first year twenty
34:45
Speaker 8: twenty one when Texas did it, that's when they will
34:49
Speaker 8: draw new maps to account for population changes, all right,
34:53
Speaker 8: And so what we have seen in recent years is
34:57
Speaker 8: mid term redistricting. And I'm going around in the world
35:00
Speaker 8: and answer your question, because first I'm an academic and
35:02
Speaker 8: I'm a professor, and I have to teach you all
35:05
Speaker 8: of these things, right, So, uh, yes, it's nothing wrong
35:09
Speaker 8: with what they're doing in terms of redistrictings. So to
35:12
Speaker 8: answer your question, what they have done and now I
35:16
Speaker 8: don't think so if if TOOMP had not to make
35:19
Speaker 8: that call. So that's what.
35:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, you mentioned. You mentioned the Supreme Court and the Constitution,
35:27
Speaker 5: And what I've seen is that what this president has
35:30
Speaker 5: done is rechanged and restructure the Constitution and restructure the
35:34
Speaker 5: Supreme Court all decisions that's that they're being made right now.
35:39
Speaker 5: So you might want to explain how some people say this.
35:42
Speaker 8: Is racist, Well, well, you know, I have to and again,
35:49
Speaker 8: and I think that's one of the reasons I said
35:51
Speaker 8: that I wasn't going to talk about what happened with
35:54
Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk and whatever. But we get a lot of
35:57
Speaker 8: misinformation and everything. Right now, you don't restructure as a
36:01
Speaker 8: formal process for restructure and changing the Constitution, we call
36:05
Speaker 8: that the amendment process. If they want to do a
36:07
Speaker 8: total reright, they have to have a convention. Now they
36:10
Speaker 8: prevent provisions in the Constitution for doing both of those things.
36:14
Speaker 8: All right now, the Constitution is a living document that
36:19
Speaker 8: is subject to interpretation. And we believe that we're supposed
36:24
Speaker 8: to have this neutral Supreme Court or this umpire if
36:27
Speaker 8: you will, which is the third branch of government, and
36:30
Speaker 8: it was given the power of judicial review. That's what means.
36:35
Speaker 8: It has the power to interpret the Constitution and also
36:38
Speaker 8: deal with federal questions or disputes between states. Now is
36:43
Speaker 8: the Supreme Court politicized? Are they human beings? Yes, they are.
36:47
Speaker 8: They come with persuasion and the presidents will appoint people
36:51
Speaker 8: to the Supreme Court based upon whether or not those
36:55
Speaker 8: potential justices that they place on the bench will reflect
37:01
Speaker 8: what we call their judicial temperament. Now what do we
37:03
Speaker 8: mean by the judicial temperament. That's a philosophical point of
37:07
Speaker 8: view in terms of politics, whether they're a liberal, conservative,
37:10
Speaker 8: or Republican. What we have seen in recent years, and
37:14
Speaker 8: Obama didn't get the right to appoint Merry Galland, but
37:20
Speaker 8: we've seen I don't want to say the packing of
37:22
Speaker 8: the court, but adding of a Republican majority. And Trump
37:25
Speaker 8: was able to add members to the Supreme Court, and
37:28
Speaker 8: we had one the senator from Kentucky was Adam On
37:33
Speaker 8: but then allow Obama to appoint Mary Garland. But however,
37:41
Speaker 8: I think you can't just really blame the senator from Kentucky.
37:47
Speaker 8: But ruthe batea Ginsburg. She just stayed on there forever,
37:51
Speaker 8: all right, and then when she came off, that allows somebody.
37:53
Speaker 8: So some of these times, if you're strategic, if you're
37:56
Speaker 8: a Supreme Court justice, and you know you're a liberal persuasion,
38:00
Speaker 8: and if you have a person, if you're believing in
38:03
Speaker 8: terms of a Democrat, would appoint somebody more left the
38:06
Speaker 8: center as opposed to being a writer center, then why
38:09
Speaker 8: you just don't stay on message forever? All right? So
38:11
Speaker 8: you come off all right. So that's what we've seen
38:14
Speaker 8: in terms of the remaking of the court, all right.
38:18
Speaker 8: But Trump is not changing the constitution all right in
38:21
Speaker 8: terms of the right as a formal process for that then,
38:25
Speaker 8: But he's writing a lot of executive orders to get
38:28
Speaker 8: around a number of things now and when these challenges
38:32
Speaker 8: are calling into place, he's winning in the Supreme Court
38:36
Speaker 8: because there's a court that is more of a kind
38:39
Speaker 8: of conservative Supreme Court right to the right, right, some
38:43
Speaker 8: people say extreme. So I'll start there right talk about
38:49
Speaker 8: Texas in terms of how the maps in terms of
38:51
Speaker 8: what we see in Houston.
38:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I want to talk about that. But also
38:55
Speaker 5: I just want to back up a bit that when
38:57
Speaker 5: you say Gainsburg to to the to the left earlier,
39:02
Speaker 5: I mean I don't understand. I mean she didn't know
39:04
Speaker 5: what health was gonna get. We're gonna get his as
39:08
Speaker 5: he was. I've heard criticism admiration for her, right, But
39:15
Speaker 5: when you know that you're an objective, uh, after you
39:18
Speaker 5: know you're in your eighties or whatever, just like Biden,
39:21
Speaker 5: we can go. And we saw uh, his vice president
39:24
Speaker 5: release a book this week, and now she's come out
39:26
Speaker 5: and said something that it was basically a disaster for
39:29
Speaker 5: him to stay there that long. And I'm talking about
39:32
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris in terms of talking bike right.
39:34
Speaker 8: Uh and and and some people are speaking out in
39:37
Speaker 8: terms of what we may see, what's gonna what's gonna
39:40
Speaker 8: happen in the eighteenth congressional district. And I'll get more
39:42
Speaker 8: into that because al Green's district, a sizeable portion from
39:46
Speaker 8: the ninth has been moved into the eighteenth County. Gotten
39:49
Speaker 8: that when you when we talk about we distant, you
39:52
Speaker 8: should have booked me for the day because that's a
39:54
Speaker 8: lot that's that's taken place as a result of this.
39:56
Speaker 8: So let's go back to the mass. Let's start in Houston. Person,
40:00
Speaker 8: I tell you it's become with the new mass would
40:02
Speaker 8: become Republican, right, because they've included more Republican voters. And
40:08
Speaker 8: so they took a large chunk out of the ninth
40:11
Speaker 8: Congressional district, the black people moved them into the eighteenth
40:15
Speaker 8: Congressional district. So the eighteenth Congressional district will remain even
40:20
Speaker 8: under the new MAST, a majority opportunity district for black people,
40:26
Speaker 8: all right. Actually it increased the numbers because they were
40:29
Speaker 8: more Hispanics than blacks in the under the current configuration
40:33
Speaker 8: of the district. Okay, and so what would do we
40:37
Speaker 8: call that, Well, in redistrict and parlass, we call call
40:41
Speaker 8: that cracking and packing. So they cracked the nineteenth, took
40:46
Speaker 8: the black voters, moved them into the eighteenth. So they
40:49
Speaker 8: packed that concentrated them, all right, as opposed to splitting
40:54
Speaker 8: them up having more blacks in the night district where
40:59
Speaker 8: you get too black members of Congress, Now you will
41:01
Speaker 8: only have one that was the aim, and that will
41:07
Speaker 8: probably will be the eighteenth Congressional District. That's where they
41:10
Speaker 8: move most of the black folks out of the ninth
41:12
Speaker 8: congrati district out of that. Now, whether they do for
41:16
Speaker 8: the twenty ninth district, they move more Latinos in that district,
41:21
Speaker 8: and it gives the appearance that it's a Hispanic opportunity district.
41:28
Speaker 8: What we mean by what I mean by opportunity district
41:30
Speaker 8: is where Hispanic candidates were to run and then they
41:33
Speaker 8: have a good chance of winning a majority in terms
41:36
Speaker 8: of the voting age population, voting age populations people eighteen
41:40
Speaker 8: years of age older and registered voters. Well, a large
41:44
Speaker 8: number of citizens in the twenty nine and even in
41:48
Speaker 8: the ninth district to a certain extent, they may not
41:50
Speaker 8: even be citizens, or the voting age population may not
41:55
Speaker 8: be may not favor Hispanics. So that's an illusion there.
42:00
Speaker 8: What they did to the twenty nine, they did leave
42:03
Speaker 8: a significant black population in that and then runs on
42:06
Speaker 8: the north side. And what I think could happened is
42:10
Speaker 8: that a black person could win that Democratic primary in
42:13
Speaker 8: the twenty ninth district, And there are a number of
42:16
Speaker 8: people I know who are looking into it. I think
42:19
Speaker 8: Javis Johnson is maybe considering running for the twenty ninth
42:22
Speaker 8: as opposed to running for the eighteen congressional district because
42:25
Speaker 8: he didn't file for the eighteen congressional district in the
42:27
Speaker 8: primary because Latinos and Hispanics they don't turn out, and
42:33
Speaker 8: so that may be one of the problems. So if
42:35
Speaker 8: the black people in that newly configured twenty ninth districts,
42:40
Speaker 8: the one that Sylvia Garcia represents, now, if they turned
42:43
Speaker 8: out in the primary, which will more than life, it'll
42:46
Speaker 8: be a low turnout election. All right, you can nominate
42:51
Speaker 8: a black person. So that's where we are in the
42:54
Speaker 8: Houston area in terms of the implication of the new maps,
42:57
Speaker 8: of the new maps, but it's going to so it's
42:59
Speaker 8: a ball of fusion because you have this special elections
43:03
Speaker 8: for the alternacy and people in the eighteenth congressional district.
43:06
Speaker 8: So oh no, I don't know. Then they change my Matt,
43:10
Speaker 8: So they're listening to what happened recently. But no, they're
43:13
Speaker 8: still in the eighteenth.
43:14
Speaker 9: Congressional district as it currently exists, so they'll be able
43:18
Speaker 9: to build it in that. But whoever win that election
43:22
Speaker 9: will have to come right back and fiul you know,
43:26
Speaker 9: in December before yeah, right after the election, they have
43:29
Speaker 9: to file to run in the in the twenty twenty
43:32
Speaker 9: six primaries, and so what I'm saying the person.
43:36
Speaker 8: Who win, and we know that's people in the league
43:39
Speaker 8: who have the best chances. Krista Menafee, Amanda Edwards and
43:46
Speaker 8: the month here. Lace is running as a Republican and
43:48
Speaker 8: we have some independence running right, but they're going to
43:52
Speaker 8: have to come back and they have a face al Green.
43:55
Speaker 8: So that's what I'm saying because Al Green, you know
43:57
Speaker 8: people that power, man, you know, you get addicted to it.
43:59
Speaker 8: You don't want to lead Congress, right, you don't want
44:01
Speaker 8: to retire. So so that's where we are in terms
44:05
Speaker 8: of today.
44:06
Speaker 1: That was doctor Michael O. Adams. He is the director
44:09
Speaker 1: of the Master of Public Affairs Graduate program at TSU's
44:13
Speaker 1: Barbara Jordan Mickey Leland School of Public Affairs. The bombing
44:18
Speaker 1: of Iran by the US and Israel set off alarms
44:22
Speaker 1: around the world and ignited protests, but one community stood
44:26
Speaker 1: firm as an advocate of regime change in the country.
44:29
Speaker 1: The Persian community in the US is standing strong in
44:33
Speaker 1: their denouncement of the regime in Iran and the need
44:36
Speaker 1: for a replacement. There have been protests around the country
44:40
Speaker 1: and the world from the Persian community calling for more
44:43
Speaker 1: governments to participate in overthrowing the current Iranian regime in Texas.
44:49
Speaker 1: We talked to one person that represents the Persian community,
44:52
Speaker 1: Kareem Sanjanay with the Iran Solidarity American Community of Texas.
44:59
Speaker 7: Thank go short for everything you do. I appreciate that
45:02
Speaker 7: for your concern and your support. However, yes, and this
45:08
Speaker 7: is Kareem Zangane with the Iranian American Communities of Texas
45:14
Speaker 7: and the supporting the n cri I National Council of
45:17
Speaker 7: Resistance of Iran. The only alternative that this organized is
45:24
Speaker 7: strong inside Iran that we're hoping that soon overthrow this
45:31
Speaker 7: fascist regime. So yes, we had this huge gathering demonstration,
45:37
Speaker 7: tens of thousands of Iranians from around the Europe. They
45:42
Speaker 7: come to Brussel and supporting the n cri I and
45:51
Speaker 7: celebrating the sixties birthday of any k Mu driving help
45:56
Speaker 7: when they formed in the previous dictatorship and against the
46:01
Speaker 7: show they've fired for fourteen years and then now forty
46:05
Speaker 7: seven years fighting against this fascist regime, this regime because
46:12
Speaker 7: it's vulnerable. In week, especially in the last twelve days
46:16
Speaker 7: of war, it was shown to the entire world that
46:19
Speaker 7: how weak and vulnerable they are. However, they are escalating
46:24
Speaker 7: the killing people. Institution is every day, fifteen twenty whatever,
46:30
Speaker 7: the execute every day in order to keep the people
46:35
Speaker 7: from off of the street, because the people really to
46:39
Speaker 7: overthrow the regime. So this is the situation he has
46:44
Speaker 7: like were condemning, were condemning this. We have another demonstration,
46:51
Speaker 7: by the way, it's coming on in New York in
46:55
Speaker 7: front of you, and for General Assembly that is going
46:58
Speaker 7: on twenty four in front of you. And for the
47:06
Speaker 7: same purpose as we are asking this administration to to
47:14
Speaker 7: not give the visa to this creamin of that who
47:17
Speaker 7: come to the United States, and they have to given
47:19
Speaker 7: the platform to to lie to the world leaders about
47:25
Speaker 7: the situation that is going on in ill So we
47:32
Speaker 7: we have, you know, as you know, in this doministation
47:35
Speaker 7: that we have, we had in the lusion. You have
47:37
Speaker 7: the great guests, we have Vice President Pence, we have Bipolis,
47:44
Speaker 7: and by the way, we have Vice President and Pence.
47:45
Speaker 7: We have a Speaker of the Speaker and the Leader
47:50
Speaker 7: of the Chief of the United Kingdom Parliament. I believe
47:59
Speaker 7: ten fifty in years mister John Big Big Coup, and
48:07
Speaker 7: then the Pathrick Patrick Trinity for example, and many orders
48:11
Speaker 7: that they're supporting. And they were there with Miss Mariam
48:14
Speaker 7: Graderi and they speak to the to the demonstrators. So
48:18
Speaker 7: this is what will happened last last weekend and and
48:24
Speaker 7: Toori and plenty for are going in new and that's
48:27
Speaker 7: going to be huge. I would like to keep us
48:29
Speaker 7: as if you can, that could be a great support.
48:33
Speaker 7: So yeah, we are we are demanding region changes ran.
48:38
Speaker 7: We we say there is no one needed the we
48:42
Speaker 7: and we we don't need any support of any.
48:45
Speaker 5: Kind of.
48:47
Speaker 7: Support as far as the money or weapon war is necessary.
48:52
Speaker 7: We are we we say there is an option that
48:55
Speaker 7: is a third option that our resistance is. Option for
49:00
Speaker 7: Iran is just support people to overthrow the region. Recognize
49:08
Speaker 7: the rights of people to overthrow the regime. This is
49:12
Speaker 7: what we want from this administration or any other administration too,
49:17
Speaker 7: to lead this this legitimate right. So we said that
49:30
Speaker 7: in the we be saying because this is the fact
49:34
Speaker 7: that there is only one alternative, Richard, that is the
49:40
Speaker 7: you have experience, they have vision, they have ten ten
49:45
Speaker 7: point planned for the future Iran, which is the power
49:50
Speaker 7: is going to go through the people rather than to
49:54
Speaker 7: be either in monarchy or this region fascist regime. So
49:58
Speaker 7: that's what we say is and the people, the people
50:04
Speaker 7: want to have a democratic, secular, nonpublish that's what it is.
50:10
Speaker 7: That the people no to sha, no to mon. That
50:13
Speaker 7: that's how their slogan is in over over Iran. If
50:18
Speaker 7: you have any particular question, I'd be glad to.
50:22
Speaker 5: I mean, you said that, you said that.
50:24
Speaker 7: You can, you don't.
50:25
Speaker 5: You don't need any arms, you don't need any type
50:28
Speaker 5: of military backing. How would you well around around right now?
50:32
Speaker 5: I still have one of the largest armies in the
50:35
Speaker 5: in the in the world and they have uh foxy
50:39
Speaker 5: proxy groups that work with you. So how how are
50:48
Speaker 5: you how are you going to go in Ran and
50:51
Speaker 5: take over the country again without any type of military backing?
50:56
Speaker 7: Okay, se very great, great question. Actually this is question
50:59
Speaker 7: that the many many people even are politicians here. So
51:05
Speaker 7: you know, first of all, you know, the most power
51:09
Speaker 7: in any country is the power of people. That's the
51:11
Speaker 7: number one number. This regime is being shown, especially after
51:17
Speaker 7: twelve days of war after his Bola it was demolished
51:22
Speaker 7: after the assad that it was the they are and
51:29
Speaker 7: we all thought he has some power. But in ten
51:32
Speaker 7: days the class this is this was the multi billion
51:36
Speaker 7: dollar money that they spent not only on atomic project
51:40
Speaker 7: but also on bachoral Asad and all evaporate. So you know,
51:46
Speaker 7: now if the world knows, that's how vulnerable and and
51:52
Speaker 7: week this regime is, and that's how the people. People
51:55
Speaker 7: are iron they understand that. That's why they are in
51:57
Speaker 7: the street. That's why the regime find out. The only
52:01
Speaker 7: the only pool I have to send the power is
52:05
Speaker 7: to execute people. Since since in the since this president
52:11
Speaker 7: came into power, for about the year, about seventeen hundred people,
52:19
Speaker 7: seventeen hundred people have been executed. Why people doesn't have electricity,
52:23
Speaker 7: doesn't have water, doesn't have bread on the table. We
52:26
Speaker 7: mentioned that before. And this regime is it cannot provide
52:30
Speaker 7: any of that. The only thing is to execute people
52:33
Speaker 7: to stay in the power. So yeah, people are in
52:36
Speaker 7: the street. There is no war, there is no war needed.
52:40
Speaker 7: The biggest war is between the Iranian people and against
52:44
Speaker 7: the regime.
52:44
Speaker 8: That's the biggest war.
52:46
Speaker 7: The main thing is that in any foreign countries to
52:50
Speaker 7: go in and have war which is not needed, they
52:54
Speaker 7: need to just support morally, recognize the right of people
52:59
Speaker 7: to work through a decision, right of the people to
53:02
Speaker 7: confront the IRGC as they are in why they don't
53:08
Speaker 7: support the people and the right to confront the IRGC
53:15
Speaker 7: to work throughout. I understand that, but you're you it's
53:19
Speaker 7: the idea, that's the idea of you would think that
53:22
Speaker 7: you know that you have people to support, and that's
53:25
Speaker 7: not all the people are going to come out and
53:27
Speaker 7: support support a new regime. One two.
53:32
Speaker 5: The people that that that you say will come out, Uh,
53:36
Speaker 5: A lot is still divided into different different factions. And
53:39
Speaker 5: and to say that, to say that everybody assigned with
53:43
Speaker 5: a signe, which your faction is kind of it is
53:49
Speaker 5: saying a lot, you know, was asking a lot from
53:51
Speaker 5: the people there. And also we notice ecret police and
53:55
Speaker 5: ran right now, how they operate. You know, they have
54:01
Speaker 5: no problem taking people into the jails. So again, you know,
54:07
Speaker 5: militarily you're saying that you don't need anything, you know,
54:11
Speaker 5: but I was, I'm looking at the reality of the
54:14
Speaker 5: whole situation.
54:16
Speaker 7: No, it does exactly, That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, Richard,
54:19
Speaker 7: you know the factor that it is last majority of
54:24
Speaker 7: the people. If I tell you over ninety five personal
54:27
Speaker 7: people doesn't want this regime. They are against them because
54:32
Speaker 7: they cannot provide them the simplest things, as far as
54:37
Speaker 7: it was an electricity and clear here bread and the
54:46
Speaker 7: long time eight percent of the people on the poverty line,
54:50
Speaker 7: I mean severe pacty line, not the policy line that
54:53
Speaker 7: you'd explained here, the severe poverty line. So people are
54:57
Speaker 7: against them, people are against them, and then and the
55:00
Speaker 7: regime is weak. Yeah, how much they can take to
55:03
Speaker 7: the jail, how much they can execute, you know, So
55:06
Speaker 7: that's that's the only tool they have. What we do,
55:09
Speaker 7: what they're asking the Western country and the United States
55:12
Speaker 7: of America from both both parties, so to to support
55:17
Speaker 7: the rights of the people to overthrow the regime, because
55:22
Speaker 7: this regime is shown that it's not only enemy of
55:24
Speaker 7: the Iranian people, but is enemy of the peace and
55:27
Speaker 7: security and the stability of anywhere in the in the
55:30
Speaker 7: in the region and around the world. Tororism is the
55:34
Speaker 7: tool they have abroad and killing execution of the people
55:38
Speaker 7: inside Iran. So those are has to be recognized by
55:41
Speaker 7: Western country world. So the little Iranian decisions for themselves,
55:48
Speaker 7: as you know, you know, well, you know, in fifty
55:53
Speaker 7: seventy three people uprising for them and the monarchy, but
56:04
Speaker 7: state and UK intervention and then they the coup and
56:10
Speaker 7: I'm brought down the democratic and doctor Mossade you know that. Well,
56:16
Speaker 7: so we don't want that. People are now they know
56:20
Speaker 7: what they want. They want freedom and democracy, and they
56:23
Speaker 7: want the free world to support them morally. That's the
56:27
Speaker 7: best way with no cost to the United States, with
56:29
Speaker 7: no cost to go to war, with no cost in
56:32
Speaker 7: for any country.
56:34
Speaker 5: All Right, see, I'm gonna wrap it up.
56:37
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for taking phone call. I have
56:39
Speaker 7: to shay that again, Richard, and thank you so much
56:42
Speaker 7: for everything you do. Thank you, sir.
56:45
Speaker 1: That was Kareem Sanjaney with the Iran Solidarity American Community
56:49
Speaker 1: of Texas who says it's time for change in Iran.
56:53
Speaker 1: They have a website which is i a c nt
56:58
Speaker 1: dot com. The People's News is a production of Steve
57:04
Speaker 1: Gallington and Richard Hannah and is protected by copyright laws.
57:08
Speaker 1: All the information broadcast on air and online, as well
57:11
Speaker 1: as published in both print and or online, including articles, audio, clips, illustrations, graphics, photographs,
57:18
Speaker 1: and videos, are protected by these copyright and other state
57:21
Speaker 1: and federal intellectual property laws. Therefore, you may not use
57:25
Speaker 1: our content in any prohibited way, including reproducing, publishing, transmitting, selling, rewriting,
57:31
Speaker 1: broadcasting or posting on the Internet without the expressed written
57:35
Speaker 1: permission of the People's News. Prohibited use also includes publication
57:40
Speaker 1: of our material in printed or electronic brochures, newsletters, or flyers,
57:44
Speaker 1: as well as all website or email distribution. To obtain
57:48
Speaker 1: permission to use copyrighted material, email Steve Gallington at Steve
57:53
Speaker 1: atgallington dot com. Thank you.