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Fi Unfiltered: Horses, Coaching, Dogs & Plenty of Laughs · Between the Flags

• prue: Hi everyone, welcome to the show. Today we have a slightly different format. We've had some feedback that you would like to know a little bit more about us, as in Fiona and Prue. So as the saying goes, careful what you wish for. Guess what, Fee? You're up first. In-Person: dear, am I ready for this? fiona: He Ready for this? prue: are they ready for this? I would say. I I reckon you're ready. I'm not sure the world's ready, but I I'm really looking forward to this. So I I would have to say our introductions sometimes can be pretty lengthy, but tonight it will be brief, as I think Fiona will be able to fill in a quite a few blanks for us. I reckon I've known Fee for about 36 years, and in that time she has become a very dear friend. but also a valued peer within our sport. She is an accomplished event writer, coach, mentor, business owner, educator, and an all round cool chick. Let's start in the now, Fee. You've recently won an Equestrian New South Wales Coach Award at the Equestrian New South Wales Awards night. So let's begin there. What did it mean for you to be recognised in this way? fiona: Yeah, good to good to I guess fulfill everyone's dreams and let them into their their their people that are doing this this podcast. what did it mean for me with the coaching award? Look, years ago when I was riding full time, the coaches were sort of In-Person: Yeah, good to, guess, fulfil everyone's dreams and let them into their people that are doing this podcast. What did it mean for me with the coaching award? years ago when I was riding full time, coaches were sort of came second. fiona: came second. but now with my sort of let's say more educated ideas of what coaching should be, coaches have a very big role in the sport. And my goal is for all of the riders that are coming through In-Person: But now with my sort of, let's say more educated ideas of what coaching should be, coaches have a very big role in the sport and my goal is for all of the riders that are coming through, fiona: my passion is that they become the next generation of In-Person: my is that they become the next generation of fiona: very influential people that are involved in the sport. Like you know, Oliver, I've I've s walked him through and got him up to his level one. That's that's my goal that I want to see the future of the coaches that are the that are the riders of today. That's that's my goal in in in In-Person: very influential people that are involved in the sport. you know, Oliver, I've walked him through and got him up to his level one. That's my goal that I want to see the future of the coaches that are the riders of today. That's my goal. And so that's what drives me with the coaching award. fiona: And so that's what drives me with the with the coaching award. prue: Yeah. Yeah, I think that's really interesting you bring that up because I I think culturally in Australia and it's not just an equestrian thing, I don't think the coaches are held on such a pedestal as what they are, say for example, in American sport or and I and I think you know, and that and in some fiona: Yes. Yes. In-Person: Yes. Yes. prue: ways that's okay. Like as a coach I can understand that, but then I totally agree with what you say in that they're not necessarily recognised. So, you know, hats off to Equestrian Australia, Equestrian New South Wales for, you know, stepping up and acknowledging the coaches because a wise man once said to me, you know, you can put all your money into a program that you like, but if you're not supporting the coaches, the programs never fly. So, you know, I think that's you know, I think a truer word has never been spoken. So yeah, fiona: Yeah. In-Person: Yeah. prue: I certainly It i it is it is super that the the coaches are definitely getting a little bit more recognition and and with that with your coaching journey and clearly it's been a long one because you you know you would have been a level one coach for many, many, many years. Yep, back in the day. and you've this fiona: Back in the day, back in the day. In-Person: Back in the die, back in the die. prue: year you've actually stepped into the level three Coach. So you've officially become a level three coach, which to say that's been a journey, I think was probably an understatement and an overstatement all in one. But in doing the level three coaching, you actually had to do a couple of subjects through Queensland Uni through the coaching c courses that they have there. So talk us through what you think, you know, what you perhaps gained knowledge of or exposure to when you did study coaching actually as you know, as a university subject. fiona: Well, when it was it was brought to the the table that we had to do these university courses, I contacted Will Enziger and I said, Will, I don't think I've I've I don't think I've got the now sort of the know how to do a university course. This isn't what I've In-Person: Well, when it was brought to the table that we had to do these university courses, I contacted Will Enziger and I said, Will, don't think I've got the nows or the know-how to do a university course. This isn't what I've... fiona: this doesn't come across my knowledge base. I'm not gonna be able to what am I gonna do at university? it was a really big deal for me to take that on. I just thought it was way above what I what what I could do. In-Person: this doesn't come across my knowledge base. I'm not going to be able to, what am I going to do at university? It was a really big deal for me to take that on. I just thought it was way above what I could do. And yeah, it was, I felt a great sense of accomplishment that I did. fiona: And yeah, i it was it was it was I I felt a great sense of accomplishment that that I did that I did achieve it and and I got distinction for the first one and a credit for the second part of it. In-Person: that I did achieve it and I got a distinction for the first one and a credit for the second part of it. But even applying myself and learning how to do the courses and that sort of thing, it was huge for myself as a, know, let's say 60 year old person to take that on. And I really think that being fiona: But even applying myself and learning how to do do the courses and that sort of thing, it was huge for myself as a you know, s let's say sixty year old person to take that on. and I and I really think that being being able to I guess In-Person: being able to, I guess, apply yourself to learn something. I think that's the most important thing that I took away from doing those courses is I've always, like, I don't think I'm totally a numpty and all I can do is ride horses, but it's learning how to learn. And I think that's a big deal about learning how to coach. fiona: apply yourself to learn something. I think that's the most important thing that I took away from doing those courses is I've always like I don't think I'm totally a a numpty and all I can do is ride horses, but it's it's learning how to learn and I think that's a big deal about learning how to coach. Co coaching for me is not just In-Person: Coaching for me is not just fiona: knowing how to ride a horse, coaching is mentoring and and we did a course at Queensland Uni, sport psychology and that was amazing. and so applying all those skills towards your coaching for me was was the next level of understanding what it is to be a very good coach. So yeah. In-Person: knowing how to ride a horse. Coaching is mentoring and we did a course Queensland Uni, Sports Psychology and that was amazing. And so applying all those skills towards your coaching for me was the next level of understanding what it is to be a very good coach. So yeah. prue: Yeah. And I can imagine that a lot of the stuff that you probably did in the course, you went, that's what that's called. when I do that, that's what that's called. when I experience that, fiona: Ha ha ha hace. In-Person: You've done this. prue: that they've got a word for that. they've got a yeah. there's an identity. Yeah. Yeah. fiona: Yes, they did have a word for that. All of those words that were many more syllables than I ever use in my everyday life. And In-Person: Yes, they did have a word for that. All of those words that were many more syllables than I ever use in my everyday life. And fiona: and of course you're very across all of those things because of the degrees in in coaching and so on and so forth that you've done in your career. In-Person: of course, you're very across all of those things because of degrees in coaching and so on and so forth that you've done in your career. But certainly for me, reading those articles and so on that we had to then fiona: But certainly for me reading reading those articles and so on that we had to then write write our whatever it was the question that we had to be able to write about it was a lot for me to because you know, look I went to In-Person: write our whatever it was the question that we had to be able to write about. It was a lot for me to because of you know look I went to prue: Yes. fiona: high school but certainly my years in high school were spent around how many days can I get away with not being at high school to ride horses. So so yeah it was it was it was a it was a task to do all of those In-Person: high school but certainly my years in high school were spent around how many days can I get away with not being in high school to ride horses. prue: Yeah. In-Person: So yeah, was a task to do all of those, fiona: I'm gonna say theses. I'm not sure that that's the correct word, even now I'm struggling for the the correct terms, but it was a challenge, but I was pretty happy to work with the other coaches that were involved in the level three course, Rachel Downs and and and In-Person: I'm gonna say theses, I'm not sure that that's the correct word, even now I'm struggling for the correct terms, but it was a challenge, but I was pretty happy to work with the other coaches that were involved in the Level 3 course, Rachel Downs and... fiona: a couple of the other guys that were involved in it. In-Person: a couple of the other guys that were involved in it fiona: And felt I felt very fortunate that it was a group. It was a a group of coaches that were involved in gaining their level three. So I think that's and it's, you know, the ego reiterates or goes back to being involved in squad school and how you bounce off each other and all of that. I think that's really important when you're not flying solo. You can you can feel as though In-Person: and I felt very fortunate that it was a group, it was a group of coaches that were involved in gaining their level three. I think that's, and it's, you know, there you go, reiterates or goes back to being involved in squad school and how you bounce off each other and all of that. I think that's really important when you're not flying solo. can feel as though... fiona: you know, that you're not a dummy out there on a ledge on your own. In-Person: you know, that you're not a dummy out there on a ledge on your own. prue: Well, I think that's one of your huge attributes is you are a team player and you love having the team around you and you love having that group of people around and and I think you're very good at encouraging people and then you obviously then, that feeds back into you as well. So I think, that would be something I've always witnessed in and how you operate. So I can imagine, yes, that group of people going through aiming for the same things is hugely motivating. but also encouraging, you know, when you sort of start thinking, my gosh, this is all too much. you get picked up and and dragged along. So I can certainly see how that would be a a huge benefit. And and talking, you mentioned there about the Star Squad or the squad. So a few years ago you took on the huge task of basically developing a whole new squad in New South Wales. So New South Wales has a very, very good squad history. We've had great support in previous years and you know, at the elite level but also at the grassroots level. But you managed to find a there was a group in the middle, if you like, that were Well missing out, for want of a better word. so you've brought into the squad program your star squad. So just what motivated you to do this and maybe some of the learnings along the way with Star Squad. fiona: look, I was lucky enough just post COVID, I guess it was, it was actually nearly even during the last, sort of short term of COVID, where high performance put out some interest towards becoming a competitive edge coach. And I think that is, an untapped quality that In-Person: look, I was lucky enough, just post COVID, I guess it was, it was actually nearly even during the last, sort of short term of COVID, where high performance put out some interest towards becoming a competitive edge coach. And I think that is, an untapped quality that... other sports probably do have. the middle ground of where there was the high performance riders who were supported and then the riders that were just striving to reach that high performance level were fiona: other sports probably do have. the middle ground of where there was the high performance riders who were supported and then the and then the riders that were just striving to reach that high performance level were they were looking for we found a niche that where they could be supported and that was where the Star Squad was born. and for me In-Person: were looking for we found a niche where they could be supported and that was where the Star Squad was born. And for me, and again, it's the team thing, isn't it? It's like, even where they go and train together, the riders, and I feel as though that was something that I really loved doing. fiona: And again, it's the team thing, isn't it? It's like even where they go and train together the riders that and I feel as though that was something that I really love doing, In-Person: riding with yourself and all the guys from New South Wales. When we go and have squad days at the Equestrian Centre with fiona: riding with yourself and and all the guys from New South Wales when we go and have squad days at the Equestrian Centre with Rosie and Heath and Vicky Roycroft and Wayne and all sorts of things at Mount White and all of that. It was like you were a squad. You had to be there the whole day. And that to me was brilliant. I just In-Person: Rosie and Heath and Vicki Roycroft and Wayne and all sorts of things at Mount White and all of that. It was like you were a squad. You had to be there the whole day. And that to me was brilliant. I just, fiona: really I felt as though in my riding that was a big chunk of In-Person: Really, I felt as though in my writing that was a big chunk of fiona: the the biggest part where I gained more learning and more In-Person: the biggest part where I gained more learning and more, I'm not going to say creativity, that's a strange word to say, but it felt as though like I just saw people do monkey see, monkey do. fiona: I'm not gonna say creativity, that's a that's a strange word to say, but it felt as though like I just saw people do monkey see, monkey do, all of that sort of thing was where I felt as though I gained more and more and more. And I think this is where for me it's motivated me to become super involved in, you know, keeping that dream alive with eventing New South Wales Star Squad. In-Person: All of that sort of thing was where I felt as though I gained more and more and more. And I think this is where, for me, it's motivated me to become super involved in keeping that dream alive with eventing New South Wales Star Squad. fiona: That's my motivation where I want those guys to take advantage of my knowledge of what it was to be involved in that. In-Person: That's my motivation, where I want those guys to take advantage of my knowledge of what it was to be involved in that. prue: Yeah, yeah. And I think it's so great that, you're a coordinator of the Star Squad, which is in itself a a huge role in that you basically, you know, organise the coaches, organise the clinics, organise the riders, keep their membership up to date, you know, make sure they've got a shirt, make sure they're wearing their shirt. It it's a lot of fiona: I show that. In-Person: Let's make sure they work. prue: Yeah, there's a lot of herding cats in this job. But what what are some of the things like now you've you know, you you have you I would think you're sort of the honeymoon period is over and then you've hit a little bit of a slow spot, but then you found what works and then you run again and so it's really reinventing it all the time. But what fiona: Yeah. In-Person: Yeah. prue: what do you really love about it? Like what's you know, like we had a clinic recently and when you go home or whatever, like what what's the thing that you go, gee, I love that today? Like what what what are the what's the thing that floats your boat? fiona: look, watching the riders work together and see what the other rider does is just where I guess I feel as though that was what I gained the most out of when I was riding. and I love the camaraderie or, you know, dare we say those words that are most used these days, community. In-Person: look, watching the writers work together and see what the other writer does is just where I guess I feel as though that was what I gained the most out of when I was writing. And I love the camaraderie or, you know, dare we say those words that are most used these days, community. They all group together and they love being there with each other. And those are the things that I think being involved and riding with each other at that level, they bounce off each other, they see what that doesn't work for that horse, they can take that home and apply it to another horse of theirs. fiona: they they all group together and they love being there with each other. and those are the things that I think being involved and riding with each other at that level, they bounce off each other, they see what that doesn't work for that horse, they can take that home and apply it to another horse of theirs. It's cumulative. It is definitely cumulative of being involved. And look, we've had, you know, a couple of months where we haven't been able to get together. And now we've had the last two months of we've had a show jumping one and a cross country one recently. And the guys love it. Like the ones who come In-Person: It's cumulative, it is definitely cumulative of being involved. And look, we've had, you know, a couple of months where we haven't been able to get together. And now we've had the last two months of we've had a show jumping one and a cross country one recently. And the guys love it. Like the ones who come to it, they wouldn't miss it. fiona: to it, they they wouldn't miss it for quids. Like they just really they would come on their lowest horse if they if I let them. They would come on an eighty centimetre horse if they could fit into a group because they just love riding with each other and being involved together. So and it is cute Yep. absolutely. And that's the biggest part of it, yes. In-Person: for quids, like they just really, they would come on their lowest horse if I let them. They would come on an 80 centimetre horse if they could fit into a group because they just love riding with each other and being involved together. it is cute. absolutely. And that's the biggest part of it. Yes. prue: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It is such a lonely sport, isn't it? Like you you know, I mean, we're fortunate here 'cause we've got a few people based here, but the majority of people are slugging it out on their own, riding their horse on their own, you know, so that as you say, just to be able to ride with your peers and chew the fat as we say, is just it it's just motivating in itself. And I mean, it sounds terrible, but if they learn something along the way that's like an extra bonus, but because they actually self learn, they actually work stuff out for themselves. And I think that's yeah, I I think that's fiona: That's right. That's right. In-Person: That's right. That's right. prue: the the culture that you're cultivating so well, that's for sure. So fiona: Yeah. I remember In-Person: Yeah, I remember years ago, I was in a lesson with Colleen Brooke and she said to me that one of the biggest things about peer group pressure, or not so much peer group pressure, but working with your peers is that feeling of keeping up to somebody else or whatever that is, fiona: years ago I was in a in a lesson with Colleen Brooke and she said to me that one of the biggest things about peer group pressure, or not so much peer group pressure, but working with your peers, is that feeling of keeping up to somebody else or whatever that is. is more of a learning tool In-Person: is more of a learning tool. fiona: than the than the information that they gain at that moment. In-Person: than the information that they gain at that moment. prue: totally. And I would say, you know, maybe for like personally, I reckon I was under more pressure jumping in a squad clinic than I ever was jumping at an event. Like, that was proper pressure. And I mean even now, fiona: correct. Absolutely. Yeah. In-Person: correct. Absolutely. Yeah. prue: you know, when we've got kids and, their entry point to Star Squad for people that don't know is literally you can be a junior rider going to your first two star competition. So, we we've got an entry point where you're starting to ride FEI level, which is fantastic. And, I've got people I'm trying to encourage them to go, I say this this will be pressure. Th you know, this is fiona: Yeah. In-Person: Yeah. prue: not it this is a different scene. And you will get the you know, we obviously you do a good job with the timetabling and you're not about to put the newbie two star kids, dare I say it, in in with the, you know, four star event riders, but sometimes those riders turn up on a two star horse and they absolutely, fiona: That's In-Person: That's prue: can be with them. And and I think it opens the eyes for those kids that we're all in it for the same reason. So I think yeah, I take my hat off to you for what you've created and the camaraderie that is there. I think it's certainly to be congratulated. So to be getting that o award I think is is I think they know you're doing a good job, but they don't I don't think any you know a lot of people really understand what you're doing. I think it's certainly to be commended. now okay so we've sort of we're in the now and and the now is obviously very important but I want to go right back to the beginning now. Like right back to the beginning. fiona: Ha ha ha. In-Person: No. prue: I wanna know, like we're talking little Fiona. So take us back. Where did it start? Everybody wants to know. Let I wanna hear a couple of stories of small Fiona. If that's even a thing. I don't even know In-Person: my god. fiona: my god. prue: if there was ever a small Fiona, but anyway, let's let's let's give it a go. fiona: Well, you're right. You're right. Because even even In-Person: Well, you're right. You're right. Because even, even, fiona: even Dad would say when I was a kid, my God, if you keep growing and you keep getting bigger, I'm gonna have to get you a bloody elephant. Little did he know it was probably a warm blood, but anyway. goodness, goodness. Back in the day, look, Dad and I dad and Dad loved horses, Dad was and that's In-Person: even dad would say when I was a kid, my God, if you keep growing and you keep getting bigger, I'm going to have to get you a bloody elephant. Little did he know it was probably a warm blood. But anyway, goodness, goodness. Back in the day, look, dad and I, dad and dad loved horses. Dad was, and that's, prue: Yeah. Yeah. In-Person: you know, a lot of people say to me, fiona: You know, a lot of people say to me, you you must come from the country. Well I don't. I was born western suburb Sydney, but dad was born and bred in Gunedar, Tamworth, all up a in around there and I spent a lot of time in the country and I've probably got all that In-Person: you must come from the country. Well, I don't. was born Western suburbs, Sydney, but dad was born and bred in Gunnedah, Tamworth, all up in around there. And I spent a lot of time in the country and I've probably got all that, you know, Western New South Wales twang in my voice. I don't know whether it's twang or it's just that Aussie. fiona: you know, Western New South Wales twang in my voice. I don't know whether it's twang or it's just that Aussie Aussie In-Person: Aussie, boganism. But look, Dad loved horses and I've got photos of me fiona: boganism. But look dad loved horses and I've got photos of me prue: Ha ha Mm. fiona: As a three-year-old, blonde curly, long blonde hair. As a kid, believe it or not, In-Person: as a three year old, blonde curly, long blonde hair as a kid. Believe it or not. fiona: sitting on a horse in the backyard in inner city Sydney, virtually Bankstown, which is totally not where any horse would ever be seen any anymore. and In-Person: sitting on a horse in the backyard in inner city Sydney virtually Bankstown which is totally not where any horse would ever be seen any anymore. And prue: Mm. In-Person: however dad decided that I was going to ride horses and I ended up being in Rossmoor pony club from the age of seven and fiona: However, dad decided that I was going to ride horses and I ended up being in Rossmore Pony Club from the age of seven. And My first pony, Princey, he didn't like jumping at all. He was a little black. In-Person: my first pony Princey he didn't like jumping at all he was a little black. fiona: I don't know whether he was short and black and fat. Anyway, he didn't like jumping. So Dad bought me another one and she was four and she was just recently broken in. And you know, all the things that we tell everybody else not to do anymore. And anyway, I used to fall off. In-Person: I don't know whether he was short and black and fat. Anyway, he didn't like jumping. So dad bought me another one and she was four and she was just recently broken in. And you know, all the things that we tell everybody else not to do anymore. anyway, I used to fall off. prue: Of course. In-Person: So her name was Surprise. And fiona: So her name was Surprise and prue: fancy that falling off a four year old. Who would have thought? fiona: Yeah, as as I was nine. Anyway, won all my riding classes and all the shows all around, Bankstown Show, Liverpool Show, Ingleburn Show, all the shows I was, you know, under twelve riding classes and In-Person: Yeah, as I was nine. Anyway, won all my writing classes in all shows all around, Bankstown show, Liverpool show, Ingleburn show, all the shows. was, you know, under 12 writing classes and and it's so funny. I grew up with Bruce Flood, who was champion gentleman writer at fiona: And and it's so funny, I grew up with Bruce Flood, who was champion gentleman rider at Sydney Royal and won many, many champion hacks, many beautiful horses and he's still a really great friend of mine and and so back in the day all you could do was either hacking or show jumping. In-Person: Sydney Royal and won many, many champion hacks, many beautiful horses and he's still a really great friend of mine. And so back in the day, all you could do was either hacking or show jumping. prue: Yeah. In-Person: And fiona: And In-Person: so Bankstown Show, was a one champion rider under 12 and champion under 12 jumping rider. And so that was at Bankstown. fiona: so Bankstown show I was I won champion rider under twelve and champion under twelve jumping rider and so that was at Bankstown In-Person: my God, that's just like so many memories of flooding back anyway. Moving on fiona: my god that's just like so many memories of flooding back anyway moving on In-Person: through Pony Club, went to heaps of Pony Club championships, fabulous mates, Johnny Cooper and lots and lots of great mates, including the Tynans, Marty Tynan, Luke Tynan. fiona: through Pony Club, went to heaps of Pony Club championships, met fabulous mates, Johnny Cooper and lots and lots of great mates, including the Tynens, Marty Tynan, Luke Tynan, all the all the guys from Pony Club era, Bryce Hawking and I still see Bryce and Johnny these days. In-Person: all the guys from Pony Club Euro, Bryce Hocking and I still see Bryce and Johnny these days. fiona: Anyway, and so got the passion for coaching. Here's something that connects Colleen Brooke and myself. I used to teach at Pony Club, the Pony Club Grounds on a Saturday, ten dollars for a riding lesson, In-Person: Anyway, and so got the passion for coaching. Here's something that connects Colleen Brook and myself. I used to teach at Pony Club, the Pony Club grounds on a Saturday, $10 for a riding lesson. And fiona: and And I was talking to Colleen and she goes, I did that too. And all the kids would come and we'd put all the jumps out and they'd go round and I'd teach them jumping. God knows what I taught them, hold it in the middle and kick it. I don't know what I sixteen. In-Person: I was talking to Colleen and she goes, I did that too. And all the kids had come and we'd put all the jumps out and they'd go around and I'd teach them jumping. God knows what I taught them. Hold it in the middle and kick it. don't know what. 16. prue: How old w how old were you when you're doing this? In-Person: I don't know what I was teaching fiona: Don't know what I was teaching prue: Gosh, In-Person: her. prue: that that I've known you for this long and I'm thinking, gosh, we had a similar I think I was teaching Party Club at sixteen. I know, what did we teach them? For goodness sake. fiona: Yeah. What yeah. In-Person: Yeah, what? Yeah, fiona: Go in a straight line and go round the corner. I don't know. But what I one hang on. In-Person: go on a straight line and go around the corner. I don't know. But what I, one, hang on. prue: Yeah, yeah. fiona: Yeah, stay on. Steer it, kick it, and stay on. One of the things that we did a lot at Rossmore Patty Club was do musical rides and and In-Person: Yeah, stay on, steer it, kick it and stay on. One of the things that we did a lot at Rossmore Patti Club was do musical rides and... prue: Mm. Now you're actually giving me a little bit of no no not the musical ride fiona: Yeah. Because In-Person: Yeah because I, I, I guess watching the musical ride at Sydney Royal with the police and all of this we did a special show at this fabulous, I don't know, it was at, it was at the bloody, where they had fiona: I I I guess watching the musical ride at Sydney Roar with the police and all of this, we did a special show at this fabulous I don't know, it was at it was at the bloody where they had prue: Ha ha. In-Person: basketball, I can't remember the exact name of the arena. fiona: Basketball. I can't remember the exact name of the arena, prue: Ha ha ha. fiona: but they had this show jumping show at a basketball. One of the guys that are listening will remember. And we did, it was Uncle Sam, the music to Uncle Sam, and I dressed up as Uncle Sam and the kids rode around and they were dressed up in all stars and stripes and all of this. And the Po Rossmore Pony Club did this thing at this In-Person: But they had this show jumping show at the basketball. One of the guys that are listening will remember and we did, it was Uncle Sam, the music to Uncle Sam and I dressed up as Uncle Sam and the kids rode around and they were dressed up in stars and stripes and all of this. And the Rossmore Pony Club did this thing at this fiona: It this show jumping show. Anyway, one ho one kid's horse. In-Person: show jumping show. Anyway, one kid's horse. fiona: Who h she still events these days. Her son events as well. And anyway, her horse went off its tits and I had to s there and I had to swing off it. Anyway, but that was one thing that I just loved that and maybe that was where, you know, In-Person: She still events these days, her son events as well. anyway, her horse went off its tits and I had to swing off it. Anyway, but that was one thing that I just loved that. And maybe that was where, you know, prue: there's always one. In-Person: I loved that quadrille sort of stuff and with Heath and all those crazy things and doing freestyle to music and... fiona: I love that quadrille sort of stuff and with Heath and all those crazy things and doing freestyle to music and I remember once I did a ride with a horse that was terrible at dressage. He was just In-Person: I Remember once I did a ride with a horse that was terrible at dressage. He was just fiona: as an inventor he lucky you could go really good cross country because he was the world's shittest dressage horse. But I I wrote I did I did he was a buckskin, his name was the right stuff. In-Person: as an adventurer, lucky you could go really good cross country because he was the world's shittest dressage horse. I wrote, I did, I did, he was a buckskin. His name was the right stuff. fiona: And he was probably one of the most difficult horses that I'd ridden to that point. And I finally decided I was and for whatever reason, who knew, I did In-Person: And he was probably one of the most difficult horses that I'd ridden to that point. And I finally decided I was, and for whatever reason, who knew, I did a fiona: freestyle to music and I did it to, of course, the man from Snowy River 'cause he was a buckskin. And that was really cool. But do you know what that made me do? That made me actually enjoy riding dressage. In-Person: freestyle to music. And I did it to, of course, the man from Snowy River, because he was a buckskin. And that was really cool. But do know what that made me do? That made me actually enjoy riding dressage. prue: Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. fiona: Because In-Person: because I fiona: I I created this, thing that I did to music and learned to ride the rhythm of the music and anyway, that was so cool. And I did a lot of other things after that. Roger Fitzharding had some ability to make the music fit the horse and and I did quite a few of those and that actually created my In-Person: created this thing that I did to music and learned to ride the rhythm of the music. And anyway, that was so cool. And I did a lot of other things after that. Roger Fitzharting had some ability to make the music fit the horse. And I did quite a few of those and that actually created my fiona: feel. In-Person: feel when I actually sort of began to enjoy writing dressage, which took a while. fiona: when then th when I actually sort of began to enjoy riding dressage, which took a while. prue: Well, isn't that an ev yeah, well, there we are. That's a lifelong task. That's right. I don't I was gonna say fiona: Achievement. Yes, that's right. In-Person: Achievement. That's right. prue: achievement and then I thought, is it ever you know, it's just a it's just an ongoing. Yes, that's right. So you fiona: And you it's a g it's a one of the holy grail. You never achieve it. In-Person: It's a holy grail. You never achieve it. prue: actually at some stage decided to go to the New South Wales Equestrian Centre and I just I did fiona: Yeah. In-Person: Ha prue: it I obviously didn't know you in those days and I just think Heath Fiona. I just I just can't quite r I mean I just wished I had high fiona: Ha ha ha. In-Person: Hahaha! prue: on the wall. I've gotta say. I just well I don't know. I you know, and I've fiona: oil and water. Oil and water. In-Person: Oil and water, oil and water, fiona: You're right. Yes. In-Person: you're right, yes. prue: It actually I I I don't even know how that works. but anyway, tell us about your days at the Equestrian Centre. fiona: Well, here you go. In-Person: Well, here you go. fiona: Yeah, so I was at the equestrian centre before the indoor arena. So there's a thing. So Heath and Rosie and I and Monica, who was she was so cool, and Heath remembers Monica as being In-Person: Yeah, so I was at the Equestria and said, before the indoor arena. So there's a thing. So Heath and Rosie and I and Monica, who was, she was so cool. And Heath remembers Monica as being, prue: Duh. fiona: Anyway, she was a she wasn't an inventor, she was a dressage girl. In-Person: anyway, she wasn't an adventurer. She was a dressage girl. fiona: And I used to call her Monica Theodore Rescue because Monica Theodorescue at the time was the top of the sport. Anyway, Monica Theatre Rescue and she was never that. But that's okay. Monica was cool because I think she placated Heath's frustration about my recalc recalcitrantness. In-Person: and I used to call her Monica Theodorescu because Monica Theodorescu at the time was the top of the sport. Anyway, Monica Theodorescu and she was never that. But that's OK. Monica was cool because I think she placated Heath's frustration about my recalcitrant-ness. prue: Ha ha. fiona: I think is that a word? It's probably got more than a few syllables, so it's not my happy place, but anyway, Heath and I, yes, you're right. It was a bit of a I do you know why I decided to go there? Because I was really shit at dressage and Heath used to win all the dressage at everything and I went In-Person: Is that a word? It's probably got more than a few syllables so it's not my happy place but anyway Heath and I, yes you're right it was a bit of a, do you know why I decided to go there? Because I was really shit at dressage and Heath used to win all the dressage at everything and I went prue: Mm. In-Person: bugger it I've got to apply myself to this because I can run rings around everybody and I could write. fiona: Bugger it. I've got to I've got to apply myself to this 'cause I can run rings around everybody in the I could br jump. I I had I could win the C and D grade show jumping at all the shows or, you know, be there or thereabouts. I was I had a great eye, even Colleen said, rode at Sydney Royal in the In-Person: jump, I had, I could win the C &D grade show jumping at all the shows or, you know, be there or thereabouts. I had a great eye, even Colleen said, rode at Sydney Royal in the pony club show jumping and she said, you've got a really good eye. So I took that forward and until a day I dropped dead. Anyway, so, and I thought the only thing that I'm really terrible at is, fiona: Pony Club show jumping and she said, You've got a really good eye, so I took that forward and until a day I dropped dead. Anyway, so and I thought the only thing that I'm really terrible at is riding dressage anyway. So it was terrible. Like I'll honestly, I was always on the wrong diagonal. I couldn't sit to the trot, I couldn't ride a flying change. In-Person: riding dressage anyway so it was terrible like I honestly I was always on the wrong diagonal I couldn't sit to the trot I couldn't write a flying change poor poor Rosie she was we lived together and Rosie was like Fiona Fiona you just argue with him all the time and I go Rosie fiona: Poor poor Rosie. She was we lived together and Rosie was like Fiona Fiona, you just argue with him all the time. And I go, Rosie, yeah, but prue: Isn't that dressage? fiona: I can't help it. I guess. Anyway, so yes, but I did, I did learn forward and rounder. In-Person: can't help it. Anyway, so yes, but I did, I did learn forward and rounder. prue: Ha ha. It's a slow train, but you got there. fiona: I did. Rounder, rounder and more forward, yes. But then I learnt feel, see, so even though it was beaten into me, I didn't last long. I'm sad to say In-Person: I did rounder, rounder and more forward. Yes. But then I learned feel see so even though it was beaten into me, I didn't last long. I'm sad to say fiona: I probably didn't last very long because I said to Heath, I can't, I just can't do it. In-Person: I probably didn't last very long because I said to Heath, I can't, I just can't do it. prue: Ha ha ha In-Person: I'm just really homesick. And he said, homesick, homesick. What do you think Rosy is? She's homesick too. And I went, OK, she probably is. No, anyway, so. fiona: I'm just really homesick and he said, Homesick? Homesick? What do you think Rosie is? She's homesick too. And I went, okay, she probably is. No. Anyway, so we're prue: That's not helping me. fiona: we're very good like he loves telling fabulous stories about what a shit of a kid I was. I was in my twenties when I was there. In-Person: We're very good, like he loves telling fabulous stories about what a shit of a kid I was. I was in my 20s when I was there. prue: In the shit of a kid you are the same age, for goodness sake. How could he but how much? Come on, be honest. Yeah, okay, how many years? fiona: No no he's older than s now don't you even start with me. He's older than me. Now don't now don't In-Person: No, no, he's older than... No, don't you even start with me. He's older than me. Now don't, now don't encourage him because he says the same thing. fiona: encourage him because he says the same thing. In-Person: dear, yeah, no, that was a big step for me because I'd never, like, I'd had coaches. I'd been to Julie Piggott. One of the best coaches that I ever had was Penny Bart. She was an English coach. She rode fiona: dear, yeah, no, that was that was that was a big step for me because I'd never like I'd had I'd had coaches. I'd been to Julie Piggott. One of the best coaches that I ever had was Penny Butts. She was an English coach. she wrote In-Person: intermediate and rode a galler and all the places and all of that. fiona: intermediate and wrote a galler and all the plazers and all of that. But she was so thorough and so like her system in her coaching and that's something that I always go back to Penny's In-Person: But she was so thorough and so like a system in her coaching. And that's something that I always go back to Penny's, prue: Yeah. Yep. In-Person: thoroughness in her coaching. revert to all the things that I learned from Penny, but also Julie Pigott, what a horseman that she was. fiona: thoroughness in her coaching. I do revert to all the things that I learnt from Penny. But also Julie Piggott, what a horseman that she was and knew so many In-Person: knew so fiona: so many techniques of how to develop a horse. so I was lucky back in the day and we're talking in the seventies and eighties and probably most of our listeners weren't even born then. Thanks for that, Charse. In-Person: many techniques of how to develop a horse. So I was lucky back in the day and we're talking in the 70s and 80s and probably most of our listeners weren't even born then. Thanks for that, Charsey. prue: Well, I think I think it's really interesting and I I love hearing that story and I think it's a common thread, with you know, and you and I have inter interviewed a few people now that you attach yourself to people and and people help you along the way and it and it really is as much as we hate the word journey, but it really is. And It's interesting how you sort of thought you kind of well, in a way we thought we knew it all, but actually we knew we had no idea. and you've just sort of described that whole stage you went through. But you certainly went on to produce a lot of horses and you rode at the four star level and it's I mean I Am I allowed to say, you know, the internet's not old enough for me to pull up every single horse that you rode at that level, fiona: Yeah. In-Person: Yeah. prue: but I can literally still picture it so many of them. And I and it's fiona: Yeah. Yeah. In-Person: Yeah. Yeah. prue: it's fast forwarding a little bit because there's w what you've just talked about and then now I feel like I'm jumping forward twenty years. You had an amazing horse in Sabrina. and you know, Sydney three day event and you I just remember you with you just loved that horse. Like there was just it it was the fiona: Yeah. Yeah. In-Person: Yep, yep. prue: best horse. It wa you know, and it was, like there's no doubt. So tell us a story and you're more you know, you can jump in and say, Actually Prue, you've missed a horse, I need you to tell a bit and so well I remember first met you at Caralbin, to be honest. We'll park camp next to you at Caralbin. fiona: Yeah, you have. You missed a couple. One of the ones goodness. Back in In-Person: Yeah, you have. You missed a couple. One of the ones... goodness, back in fiona: the day. Yes. So but that would have been in In-Person: the day. Yes. So, but that would have been in... prue: back in the day long before I even did the new Southwest that was Aussie Golden Colourplate, you were right. Yeah. Yeah. fiona: Ozzy Golden Color Plate, the Pinto. And he In-Person: Aussie golden colour plate, the Pinto. And he fiona: was even before the Buckskin Horse, the right stuff. In-Person: was even before the buckskin horse, the right stuff. prue: Yeah. yeah, I remember the r I I think I was living in New South Wales. I remember the right stuff. Yeah. fiona: the right stuff and he was In-Person: the right stuff and he fiona: and he he he trotted like a Shetland and and thank goodness that I did some pretty fancy dressage In-Person: trotted like a Shetland and thank goodness that I did some pretty fancy dressage prue: Yeah. In-Person: lessons with Roger Fitzharty. Anyway, the things that you learn off different people. But I think one of the horses that came before Sabrina was a horse that I rode for Roger White. And dear Roger, and how do you say, fiona: Lessons with Roger Fitzharding. Anyway, the things that you learn off different people. But I think one of the horses that came before Sabrina was a horse that I rode for Roger White. and dear Roger and and how do you say the most amazing man and and I just loved In-Person: the most amazing man and I just loved fiona: his daughters, both Alice and Mary you know Mirabooker Junior Camps and my God, we're going, you know, way back. But a horse that I rode for Roger was a a Vendra, Vindi. And Vindi In-Person: his daughters, both Alice and Mary you know, Mirabooka Junior Camps and my God, we're going, you know, way back. But a horse that I rode for, Roger was a Vendra, Vindi. And Vindi... fiona: was a horse that was a turning point for me. He was a beautiful mover. In-Person: was a horse that was a turning point for me. He was a beautiful mover fiona: And just like an a he was what I would call In-Person: and just like an, he was what I would call a fiona: a ballerina. Like he was the most elegant moving horse and I just was like, my God. So I rode him at the test event and unfortunately he was and by that stage he was a In-Person: ballerina. Like he was the most elegant moving horse and I just was like, my God. So I rode him at the test event and unfortunately he was, and by that stage he was a fiona: unsound and anyway, so he didn't go any further on from there. But that horse honestly was a big turning point for me. And then In-Person: unsound and anyway so he didn't go any further on from there but that horse honestly was a big turning point for me and then and then I bought Sabrina Enchanted at the at the time her EA name was Sabrina and I thought my god fiona: And then I bought Sabrina the enchanted w at the at the time sh her e eA name was Sabrina and I thought, my God, that's In-Person: This is boring. You can't ride a horse that's going to win badminton with the name Sabrina. So I had to, and all the other horses I had to that point fiona: as boring. You can't ride a horse that's gonna win badminton on with the name Sabrina, so I had to and all the other horses I had to that point, Under my spell, a couple of others. In-Person: under my spell, a couple of others fiona: that were sort of magic names and I thought, what's a name that I really think is, you know, sort of a magical sort of name. In-Person: that were sort of magic names. And I thought, what's a name that I really think is, you know, sort of a magical sort of name. fiona: So that was why she got called Enchanted and her paddock name was then became Sabrina. The big girl she was. She was a big girl, anyway. I bought her from a show jumping guy and, it's funny, Prue In-Person: So that was why she got called Enchanted and her paddock name was then became Sabrina. The big girl she was, she was a big girl anyway. I bought her from a show jumping guy and it's funny Prue, fiona: A few people had tried her, Tim Bolan and Christine Bates, as an eventer and they didn't like her. I honestly In-Person: a few people had tried her, Tim Bowlan and Christine Bates as an Aventer and they didn't like her. I honestly, fiona: trotted a circle and I went, this is my horse. This horse, I just love her. Like, whether it was because she was a right In-Person: a circle and I went this is my horse this horse I just love her like whether it was because she was a right prue: Yeah. fiona: Moluccah prue: Yeah. In-Person: malacca fiona: or what she was, I don't even know. I can't even tell you what it was. In-Person: or what she was I don't even know I can't even tell you what it was fiona: mares weren't big on my radar and especially a chestnut. Chestnut mare, man. Could you you know, a formula of difficulty, In-Person: mares weren't big on my radar and especially a chestnut chestnut mare man could you were you know a formula of difficulty prue: Yeah. fiona: but she was a tough mudder and away she went. She won her first well, I think she won a first start, I don't know, for two weeks, and she won the one star at St Greg's and In-Person: but she was a tough mother and away she went. won her first, well, I think she won her first star at Audion for two weeks and she won the one star at St. Greg's and away she went. She just won everything. She won the young event horse classes and everything. She was super, super quality. And when it came time and look, we'll touch on this and I know. fiona: And away she went. She just won everything. she won the young event horse classes and everything. She was super, super quality and and when it came time and look the ri I we'll touch on this and I know, you know, our next question's going to be, you know, why did why did I choose to put Sammy on In-Person: you know, our next question is going to be, you know, why did I choose to put Sammy on her? Because I felt as though, like by the time I was riding her, I was nearly at the end of my career. Well, you know, when is the end of your career? I felt as though this horse was a potential to be an Olympic horse and Sammy was right there, like she was fiona: Because I felt as though like by the time I was riding her I was nearly at the end of my career. well you know, when is the end of your career? I felt as though this horse was a potential to be an Olympic horse and Sammy was right there, like she was the best of Australia. She was a beautiful rider cross country, she had a f In-Person: the best of Australia. She was a beautiful rider cross country. She had a fiona: fantastic feel on the flat and I thought this is this is gold, this is gonna be a great horse for for it's a great outcome for the horse and a great outcome for Sammy. And In-Person: fantastic feel on the flat. And I thought this is, this is gold. This is going to be a great horse for, for, it's a great outcome for the horse and a great outcome for Sammy. And, fiona: our interview with Sammy, she did mention In-Person: our interview with Sammy, she did mention, fiona: but I think she was a hard horse for Helen and Sammy and certainly for me it was a great deal for to go to Badminton and Burley and that with Sammy and Helen and and I just loved it. Like the journey, as you say, was just amazing. In-Person: But I think she was a hard horse for Helen and Sammy and certainly for me, it was a great deal for to go to badminton and burley and that with Sammy and Helen and I just loved it. Like the journey, as you say, was just amazing. prue: Yeah. Yeah, no, it's great. I'm just so enjoying hearing you talk about the horse. I can still remember and you're right, she was a big girl, maybe we could even say she was a good family horse. She was at a little bit at a little bit of length fiona: Yeah. prue: about her, but she just she defied the reputation of Chestnut Met. She just wanted to do it and fiona: Yeah, she did. In-Person: Yeah, she did. prue: she was tough and she you know she was what we would say fiona: Yeah, she was yeah. In-Person: Yeah, she was, yeah. prue: is a a a proper horse, no doubt about it. Yeah, fiona: Mm, mm. In-Person: Mmm. Mmm. prue: I know that's great. I feel like we could just keep going on. I'm actually really, really enjoying this and maybe we need to get to a point in our podcast where we need to do a part one and a part two. but you know, fiona: Ha ha ha ha ha. In-Person: Hahaha! prue: well I I think there's one thing that I haven't mentioned that needs to be mentioned, the dogs. Like I don't think everybody realizes when Fee and I sit down to do this, because we're highly professional in this, but there would be not many times that we don't sit down to do these interviews with fiona: Ha In-Person: Hahaha. prue: our special guests and you know there's a fiona: Yeah. prue: dog that needs to scratch and I'm to blame too. Everyone's heard my dogs barking in the in the podcast, but there'll be a dog scratching at the door or a dog, the noise that can get you vertical out of bed when you hear that awful noise in the middle of the night and you know, there's fiona: Yes. In-Person: Yes. prue: always something going on. So I think there's I think we all know there's no show without Fiona's dogs. And so just just give us a quick rundown of at the moment, the the dogs in tow when you might be going off to an event. I I believe there's three that usually traips around at an event at the moment. So just give us the rundown on those three. fiona: just limit it to those three. I guess not the full family history, but it's interesting. My association with the Jack Russell's. My first really good dog was a was a blue cattle dog and I loved her and and I In-Person: just limit it to those three I guess. prue: Well no you can add so you can add to it. So we don't need the full family history. In-Person: Not the full family history, but it's interesting. My association with the Jack Russells, my first really good dog was a blue cattle dog and I loved her and I did get her to nip Johnny Cooper on the leg and that's how we became very, very, very good friends because Missy nipped Johnny Cooper. But then... fiona: did get her to nip Johnny Cooper on the on the leg and that's how we became very, very, very good friends because Missy nipped Johnny Cooper. But then I decided that everybody had a Jack Russell and so I bought one off Vicky Roycroft and his name was Roy. And so from there on I didn't have any In-Person: I decided that everybody had a Jack Russell and so I bought one off Vicky Roycroft and his name was Roy. And so from there on I didn't have any more fiona: more cattle dogs. I only had Jack Russell's and that was, goodness me, I don't know, a lot of years ago. So yeah, so I I've had plenty of fabulous young dogs and In-Person: cattle dogs. I only had Jack Russell's and that was, me, I don't know, a lot of years ago. So yeah, so I've had plenty of fabulous young dogs and fiona: and plenty of In-Person: and plenty of people have got the pups and all sorts of things and everybody knows that, you know, when you want a Jack Russell, Fiona might have one for you and that sort of thing. But they're funny, definitely funny little, people in my life and they've all got their quirky personalities but don't tell Patsy but I think my favourite's Bentley but anyway. fiona: People have got the pups and all sorts of things and everybody knows that, you know, when you want a Jack Russell, your Fiona might have one for you and that sort of thing. But they're funny definitely funny little people in my life and and they've all got their quirky personalities, but don't tell Patsy, but I think my favourite's Bentley, but anyway. prue: no, I was just going fiona: Patsy thinks she's the best. In-Person: Patsy thinks she's the best. prue: through my quickfire questions and you beat me to it. fiona: Ha ha ha ha ha! In-Person: ha! fiona: Ha ha ha prue: Talking of dogs, I've got one scratching at the door now. gosh. that's funny. no, it's yeah, no, there's always there's always something. fiona: There's generations, there's generations and generations of In-Person: There's generations and generations fiona: and yeah, of course, and Bentley Bentley is back from Panda and and all the ones. He's the last of the Mohicans, of all of the girls of the female doggies, In-Person: and yeah, of course. Bentley is back from Panda and all the ones. He's the last of the Mohicans, of all of the girls, of the female doggies. Bentley's the last of all of those. fiona: Bentley's the last of all of those. So yeah, he's prue: So many. fiona: he's a In-Person: He's fiona: he's a good old he's he's well he's a little bit older now, but he ran the cross country the other day In-Person: a good old, well, he's a little bit older now, but he ran the cross country the other day prue: Yeah. In-Person: and fiona: And and walked the cour well, rode the course on the bikes 'cause In-Person: rode the course on the bikes. because I'm probably more crippled than Bentley these days with his little bent leg and he went the whole way and I was on the bike and he said, no, I'm good for it up and down the hill. away he went. He's still as tough as army boots. Yeah. fiona: I'm probably more crippled than Bentley these days with his little bent leg and he went the whole way and I was on the bike and he said, Nup, I'm good for it. Up and down the hill. Away he went. He's still as tough as army boots, yeah. prue: Good old Bentley. Good old Bentley. Mind you, I say good old Bentley, he still seems young to me compared to all the dogs of yours I've known over the years. fiona: Yes. In-Person: Yes. prue: All right, so let's do a few favourites. Favourite horse? And actually this could be yours or maybe might not be yours. I actually I'm not limiting you here, so I just want to know your favourite horse. fiona: Well In-Person: Well... It has to be the mare, the big girl, Enchanted. It has to be because I got so many opportunities from her. But, you know, students, horses and even, know, Charmaine had Max's star portrait and that was a lovely horse for her. I do have, I guess, fiona: it has to be the mayor, the big girl, ha enchanted. It has to be because I got so many opportunities from her. and but, you know, students horses and even, you know, Shazy Charmaine had Max Star Portrait and that was a you know, that was a that was a lovely horse for I do have I guess prue: Yeah. fiona: a great affinity with horses that provide that beautiful vehicle or whatever it is with my with my students that that they come home safe and and I guess that's they're not my family but they kind of are, you know. and and they come home s that look after them cross country and all of that. They yeah, that's a big deal. In-Person: a great affinity with horses that provide that beautiful vehicle or whatever it is with my students that they come home safe. And I guess that's, they're not my family, but they kind of are, you know. And they come home, they look after them cross country and all of that. Yeah, that's a big deal. prue: Mm. Mm. Mm. Yeah, no, you don't know how you can Yeah. And and no, I know I I know exactly what you're saying there. You can't you can sort of never repay them. You feel indebted to them, but there's nothing you can do fiona: Yeah. In-Person: Yeah. prue: to repay them. And they kind of just do it. They don't even feel like they're owing it to you. They just do it. It's it's just such an amazing fiona: They're just really, really In-Person: They're just really, really fiona: generous horses and that's a big deal. Yeah. Yep. In-Person: generous horses and that's a big deal. Yeah. Yeah. prue: Yeah, they're just so incredibly generous. Yeah, no, that actually gives me goosebumps you saying that, you know, and I just think of the you know, some of the horses our kids have ridden and you just they just phew I d I don't know, you I I can't ever repay them. So it's and they don't even want to be repaid. This is the thing. They just do it out of the generosity of their heart. So yeah, no, I'm fiona: Correct. In-Person: Correct. prue: I'm I'm hearing you there. Okay, change of pace a little, favorite T sh T V show. fiona: now everyone's gonna hate me, everyone's gonna hate me, right? It's okay. I'm gonna own it. Goggle box. I just love people that love laughing at things that you know, that's me. I just, you know, there you go. In-Person: now everyone's gonna hate me. Everyone's gonna hate me, right? It's okay. I'm gonna own a goggle box. I just love people that love laughing at things that, you know, that's me. I just, you know, there you go. prue: Don't shock us too much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, I I reckon I I reckon we could do a goggle box at Santos just watching our In-Person: Yes! fiona: Hehehehe prue: rider videos and things would be a pretty good goggle. fiona: Olvi In-Person: Alvie, Alvie's got outtakes of me commentating. Actually, we didn't talk about, we didn't talk about Sittite Radio anyway. We didn't go there. Yeah, yeah, we didn't talk about that. That's back in the day. fiona: Olvi's got a outtakes of me commentating. Actually we didn't talk about we didn't talk about sit tight radio anyway, we didn't go there. Yeah, yeah, we didn't talk about that. That's back in the day. prue: Yeah, let's not go there. yeah, yeah. Gosh, that is a yeah, no, I'm missing missing things. Yeah, no. I think people well, I think that's Yeah, we might have to do a fiona: We might have to do a part two. Go on then, watch your third one. In-Person: We might have to do a part two. Go on then, watch your third one. prue: part two. Right, Favourite dog. I think you've already said this, so you can't change your mind on that. Next question. fiona: well it's actually In-Person: well, it's actually Panda. fiona: Panda. prue: panda. fiona: Yep. Panda was the Panda was the girl. She was she was she was Bentley's grandmother, but actually Bentley is very like Panda, so there you go. Mm, yeah. In-Person: Yep, Panda was the girl. She was Bentley's grandmother, but actually Bentley's very like Panda, so there you go. prue: That was the l Mm. Hm, yeah, right Well I'm not telling Patsy. And Right worst dog. fiona: well see a minute ago it was Moluccah but now it isn't so In-Person: well see a minute ago it was malacca but now it isn't. prue: Yeah. fiona: It was only a short period of time ago when Molucca didn't have any English at all and now she does so she's redeemed herself She has Yeah In-Person: It was only a short period of time ago when Malaka didn't have any English at all and now she does so she's redeemed herself. She has. prue: that's great. That's great. that's great. well, Fee, this is a a delight. thank you. really fun. I I think you're right. We we we might throw a few more Yeah, yeah. fiona: We might have to have a part one, part two, and then a and then In-Person: We might have to have a part one, part two, then fiona: a part one, part two of of pre's story as well. In-Person: a part one, part two of Prue's story as well. prue: well that's the trouble when we're so old. It just sort of seems to go on forever, doesn't it? fiona: I don't know whether In-Person: I don't know whether fiona: it's old, I just think we're good at storytelling. In-Person: it's old, I just think we're good at storytelling. prue: Well, let's everyone let you into a little secret. We we we do sometimes drag people kicking and screaming. We haven't had any bad feedback and when we certainly love it and the feedback we've had from the people we've had on the show, you all love it. So, But it it the pleasure is probably all ours, isn't it, really? So and and same fiona: Too right. In-Person: Too right. prue: to speak to you, Fee. I've loved every minute and can't wipe the smile off my face. So so there you go, listeners. We might have a part part two in the in the coming months and then, you know, we we will add to it. But there's a a lot obviously about fee that I have not even not even touched on, but it's an absolute pleasure doing the podcast with her. I I think we have joked with each other saying we're nearly got our E Rs ready to go one star, but we don't want to get ahead of ourselves. So we're probably still sitting in the ninety five at this stage. fiona: Yes. We just we've In-Person: Yes. We've fiona: actually learnt to just go on the correct rising diagonal and sit to the trot, I reckon. We just No As podcasters. In-Person: actually learnt to just go on the correct rising diagonal and sit to the trot I As podcasters. prue: That's right, that's right. Not sure we've even paid our membership yet. Anyway. Yes. Right. dear. All right. Okay. Thanks, Fee. And chat soon. Okay. fiona: Over and out. Good job. See ya bye. In-Person: Over and out. Good job. See you, bye.