Latest / The Dr. Randi Show / The Impact of Medical Weight Loss on Aesthetics and Plastic Surgery — Dr. Bradley Calobrace
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- 0:30Now let's get into the episode. Hello everyone, and welcome to
- 0:34the Doctor Randy Show, where real conversations shape the
- 0:38world of aesthetics. Our next guest is one of the
- 0:41most respected plastic surgeons in the country.
- 0:44He performs more than 1000 aesthetic procedures a year, and
- 0:48he's helping shape how weight loss is redefining what patients
- 0:52need from aesthetics and surgery today.
- 0:55Please welcome Doctor Bradley Calabrese.
- 0:58Thank you, Randy. I'm really glad to be here.
- 1:00We're excited. I love this topic, so I'm glad
- 1:02we're talking about it. Well, we're so excited to have
- 1:04you here today. And this is such a hot topic in
- 1:07our industry, but it's mostly been about weight loss or
- 1:11needing some extra filler. But today we're going to dive in
- 1:14a little deeper with you, OK? Sounds great.
- 1:17So, Doctor Calabrese, you have become one of the most respected
- 1:21names in aesthetic surgery. People talk about your
- 1:25precision, your results and the standards that you set.
- 1:29When a patient sits down for a consultation for you for the
- 1:32first time, let me ask you what is the first thing that you
- 1:36really want them to understand about you being a surgeon?
- 1:40Well, I think that, you know, people come in with different
- 1:42ideas about who I am or maybe they've traveled across the
- 1:46country to see me. And I think at the 1st is I want
- 1:49to disarm them by just being like acting normal and being
- 1:52normal with them. I'm just a normal person.
- 1:54I always remind people, I grew up in the middle of Indiana.
- 1:57When I was in high school, I lived in a trailer.
- 1:58I am just a normal guy who just happened to work hard enough to
- 2:04be good at my craft and it's plastic surgery.
- 2:07But what we try to do in the consultation with them is mostly
- 2:11about education. It is to hear their questions
- 2:15and see their issues and problems and then spend most of
- 2:18the time really educating. Not selling, but educating to
- 2:22help them decide whether a surgery or a treatment is
- 2:26appropriate for them. So I think that's where we
- 2:27really start. And when I say to everybody, my
- 2:30job is not to make you look perfect, I don't even want that.
- 2:33I don't want the world to be perfect.
- 2:34It's not that. What I want you to do is feel
- 2:36more comfortable in your own skin.
- 2:38I just need you to have happiness and well-being in your
- 2:43own skin. And that could be about their
- 2:45weight or it could be about something cosmetic that we need
- 2:48to do surgery on. So I think that's where we start
- 2:51the process and I think that disarms them and they feel like
- 2:54they can be a little more honest about what they're bothered by.
- 2:57Well, from my research getting ready for the podcast, I found
- 3:00out that you're doing over 1000 procedures a year.
- 3:05I mean, that's a level of volume that most surgeons never even
- 3:08get close to. With that pace, what still gets
- 3:11you excited? Walking into the OR?
- 3:14Yeah. So this is I'm getting ready to
- 3:16start in a couple months, my 29th year in practice.
- 3:19So I've done it a long time. I think what is unique in my
- 3:22practice is that although I'm in private practice, you've talked
- 3:27a lot about how much I've done in our industry, in our space.
- 3:29I'm very academic, like in other words, it's an Education Center.
- 3:33I have resonance and I have fellows with me all the time.
- 3:36I'm medical student right now from Los Angeles, visiting and
- 3:38observing for a week. So the environment is very much
- 3:42an educational environment. When I go into a room, sometimes
- 3:45you see patients, if they're comfortable with it, it may be 5
- 3:48people around me coming into the room to have the conversation,
- 3:51which can be challenging. So we asked for permission every
- 3:54time. But I think at the end, you
- 3:56know, it's about that. It's about being educational.
- 3:59And that gets me excited because if I was years ago before I
- 4:04built Kalispa, I was doing really well in my 10th year of
- 4:07practice. I was all doing well
- 4:09financially, you know, great. And then I thought, OK, I'm now
- 4:1344 years old. Am I now going to just do this
- 4:17for the next 20 years? Exactly what I'm doing right now
- 4:20in this exact 3000 square feet office.
- 4:23And for me, the answer was no. And so all that we have going on
- 4:27and all that I'm involved with, new techniques and technologies,
- 4:30keeps me excited. Well, from what I understand,
- 4:33you're training other surgeons, you're helping elevate the
- 4:35industry. I mean, it's undeniable that you
- 4:38are helping change our industry and shape it.
- 4:41So one of the topics that we like to cover is how the demand
- 4:46for surgery has really shifted over the last few years.
- 4:50And from where you sit, which is at an expert level, what changes
- 4:55have you noticed in the kinds of procedures that patients are
- 4:59looking for and the conversations that they're
- 5:01having when they're coming in? Well, certainly over the last
- 5:04decade or two, what changed was the ability to do a lot more non
- 5:09surgical treatments. So I brought Botox to
- 5:12Louisville, KY in 1997. It got FDA approved for cosmetic
- 5:16uses in 2002. So we were really ahead of the
- 5:18curve and now we know what has happened with like Botox and all
- 5:21of the toxins and fillers. So I think that there's been so
- 5:25many advances in laser treatments and Hydra facials and
- 5:29skin care products and fillers and toxins.
- 5:32That's probably been the most profound difference during my
- 5:35career, certainly. And that continues to evolve.
- 5:39And so today, in the last two to three years, maybe five years
- 5:45for me has been the interest in Wellness and the idea that we
- 5:51can do better than just thinking about the aesthetics of our
- 5:54patient, right? That we are plastic surgeons
- 5:57that have a uniquely intimate close relationship with our
- 6:01patients who have put a lot of trust in US.
- 6:04And so we have a bond that's a different kind of a bond.
- 6:07They selected me and they chose me.
- 6:10And so with that, I have the responsibility to look deeper
- 6:14into what's happening in their life and try to help make that
- 6:18better for them as just a pure service to them is to try to
- 6:23find what's making them not live their fullest, best life and
- 6:27then change that for them. And that's sort of where I think
- 6:29things are. That sounds like you really do
- 6:32care about the patient and the results and how they feel.
- 6:36And we wish we had more of that. So let's dive into this GLP one
- 6:41era, right? So it has changed the entire
- 6:45aesthetic landscape almost overnight, right?
- 6:47Because remember when they came on the scene, everybody thought
- 6:50it was just going to be a flash. And they are definitely here to
- 6:53stay. So what are you seeing in your
- 6:56practice when it comes to how rapid weight loss loss is
- 7:02affecting people aesthetically? So I will tell you that a few
- 7:07years ago I brought weight loss medications into my practice
- 7:10because so many patients were already coming in having been on
- 7:13them for the GLP ones. You know, at the beginning it
- 7:15was a Zombic and Govi, then it became Munjaro and then Zeb
- 7:19bound for that. And so we certainly stepped into
- 7:22it because we were already doing hormones and we did that.
- 7:25So if I told you how long I've said weight loss is the most
- 7:30visible but the least important benefit of the GLP wads, I go
- 7:35back to zooms and things I've done year or two ago, people
- 7:38would look at me like, are you crazy?
- 7:40And I was like, listen, the anti-inflammatory effects, the
- 7:43use in autoimmune diseases, it's issues related to addiction and
- 7:46dementia and the reduction in cardiac disease, cardiac health,
- 7:50it reduces cardiac morbidity and mortality.
- 7:53It is a huge deal, plus it's managing diabetes and it's
- 7:57helping with weight on the other things.
- 7:59But to your point in that the side effect that maybe I don't
- 8:03like to see is the rapid weight loss can lead to more profound
- 8:09changes of weight loss. Because it happened so quickly,
- 8:11the body doesn't even have time to respond and maybe even the
- 8:15GLP ones in how they act actually create a weight loss
- 8:20that becomes more obvious that we would call an ozympic phase
- 8:24or you know to use a phrase from a met one of the medicines, AGLP
- 8:28one phase, AGLP one body that is something that's quite different
- 8:31than somebody who came in and lost 30 lbs.
- 8:34It is somebody who lost in the last three months on these and
- 8:37we're seeing a more profound change that we have to address
- 8:40with our patients. And so are you finding that
- 8:42they're coming to you in the middle of their weight loss?
- 8:46Or do most wait until you know they've stabilized?
- 8:50And when someone has lost a significant amount quickly, do
- 8:54you recommend that they kind of hold steady for a while before
- 8:58they do surgery, or does that really depend on the individual?
- 9:01So certainly the first thing I say to them is they say, well,
- 9:04what's going to happen when I'm off the medicine?
- 9:06And what do you think my answer is?
- 9:09You're never going to be off the medicine.
- 9:11That's right, they have that's. My answer to that question, no,
- 9:13we're going to micro dose and do some other things.
- 9:16We're learning a lot about that. So certainly that now I will
- 9:18tell you like I had office hours yesterday and about half of the
- 9:22patients I see are on GLP ones or have been on them in the last
- 9:27year and they often are really within 10 to 15 lbs of their
- 9:31weight loss. So they're getting really close.
- 9:33They've lost £70.80. It is not like somebody came in
- 9:36losing 15 lbs. It is always 4060 a 100 lbs.
- 9:41And I always say the same thing. I'm like it's pretty amazing
- 9:45isn't that you were able to do this on this medicine.
- 9:47They're like, I can't tell you how amazing it is.
- 9:51It has empowered people to lose weight in ways that they
- 9:55couldn't do before and they really wanted to.
- 9:57I used to do bariatric surgery when I was a general surgeon.
- 10:01I know bariatric surgery and I will tell you, I used to say I
- 10:05can't figure out why somebody can't lose weight.
- 10:07It's complicated. But I know that when they're
- 10:09overweight, it affects their life quality and the quantity of
- 10:14their life. It affects both.
- 10:15And if we can get them to lose weight, that simply was going to
- 10:18improve both. And I think the same thing is
- 10:20true with GLP ones. The fact that they can lose the
- 10:22weight and they can actually do it with just a medicine and
- 10:25without surgery, and they get all the benefits of that weight
- 10:30loss. I mean, forgetting the cosmetic
- 10:32part of it, the quality of their life and the longevity they get
- 10:37out of losing weight is profound.
- 10:39I've seen unbelievable changes right in people.
- 10:42It's great. And I think it's wonderful to
- 10:44see, right people who've struggled with their way their
- 10:46entire life. It's so nice sometimes to log
- 10:49into social media and I'm like, look at that person, look how
- 10:52great they look and it's wonderful.
- 10:54Yeah, I mean totally. Like totally.
- 10:56I mean, that's the part that if you're not around and don't know
- 11:00it, you don't get it. Patients desperately want to
- 11:03lose weight. Women have an unfair shot here,
- 11:06right? Over 90% of my patients are
- 11:07women because I think in the world, what I'm known for most
- 11:10is breast. So no surprise that many of my
- 11:13patients are women and they have to hit menopause #1 they have a
- 11:16higher percent body fat to start with compared to men.
- 11:19They have to because they're a body that's made for having
- 11:21children. They have the hormonal milieu
- 11:23they struggle with through pregnancies.
- 11:25I mean, puberty, probably pregnancy, certainly with a lot
- 11:29of changes. Then they hit menopause just by
- 11:31the time they get through pregnancies and they think all
- 11:32is good, then they have menopause and their body changes
- 11:35without them changing anything about their lifestyle.
- 11:38Their body changes because the hormones change and they get
- 11:41side effects being hot flashes and they get vaginal dryness and
- 11:44they lose their libido and they have no energy and they gain
- 11:47weight and they can't sleep at night and they have anxiety and
- 11:49they have mental fog. And you know, I could just name
- 11:52all of that. And some of that is also tied
- 11:55into this weight issue that would gaining weight when you
- 11:58profoundly help them to lose weight, it is a stepping stone
- 12:02for them. It is finally they've got some
- 12:05level of control over their life again and their weight.
- 12:09And I think you just see them just blossom again and there's
- 12:12happiness and energy and just feeling like they they've been
- 12:15successful as something. And that's really profound.
- 12:18It's great to watch and even have family members do it and
- 12:21their personalities change so. Exactly.
- 12:24We all are happier when we're skinny.
- 12:26I'm just. Kidding.
- 12:27No, I think is they want to lose weight, you know, and that's
- 12:30they want to lose weight, they don't know how.
- 12:33And then when you give them a path and they can do it and
- 12:35they're successful, that's profound.
- 12:37Yes. But you're right about what you
- 12:39said that they're terrified of coming off of the medication.
- 12:43And so I love that the micro dosing has become mainstream
- 12:47now. So I think that's really good.
- 12:49So. For patients who have lost a lot
- 12:52of weight and they do need surgery, how different is your
- 12:55approach when you are deciding between, say, a tummy tuck, a
- 13:00full lower body lift, or something more comprehensive?
- 13:03What drives that decision for you?
- 13:05Well, I think one thing for sure is we see a lot more patients
- 13:09who aren't going to get by with just liposuction, right?
- 13:12And so we've had so many meetings.
- 13:14Our meetings have been focused a lot on what's called high
- 13:16definition liposuction and some of these things.
- 13:19I'm the vice commissioner of education for the Sex Society
- 13:22and in our meeting planning for 2026 meeting, I was like, you
- 13:26know, we have to have more about body lifts and arm lifts and
- 13:30thigh lifts and extended or anchored tummy tucks and face
- 13:34UPS because we're seeing such an ozympic phase of our practice
- 13:39where so many patients need something to your point,
- 13:42something more than simpler procedures.
- 13:45And so often we are. I used to do tummy tucks with
- 13:49liposuction to the hips. Now it's often a circumferential
- 13:53body lift. It's a thought.
- 13:54I did thigh lift yesterday, yesterday, I mean a body lift.
- 13:56I lift yesterday, a buttock slipped yesterday.
- 13:58And I do arm lifts, tons of them, like tons of them.
- 14:03I do tons of face slips. And I think basically all of
- 14:07them are because of weight loss, right?
- 14:09And weight loss is men and women, you know, we're, so we're
- 14:13so used to the pregnancy, the mommy makeover type of thing,
- 14:16the pregnancy. That's a certain weight loss,
- 14:18it's a certain belly that comes with a pregnancy.
- 14:22It's central relaxation and weakness.
- 14:24You fix the muscle, you pull the extra skin down, the stretch
- 14:27marks out and you're done. This is a global 360 looseness
- 14:31that develops. And so you have to dress often
- 14:33more than that pregnancy belly, it's a weight loss belly which
- 14:37is more extensive usually. So you have a comprehensive
- 14:40solution for arms and thighs and all of these areas.
- 14:44And sometimes, you know, you do see the pictures where there is
- 14:48a lot of skin hanging. And so that's great that there
- 14:51is a solution for that because I think those who have lost a lot
- 14:55of weight want to feel really confident afterwards.
- 14:58So I say this to all my weight loss patients because it's
- 15:00really important to advocate for them.
- 15:03I said, I'm sure you have people here who think you're crazy that
- 15:05you came in to see the plastic surgeon because they think you
- 15:07look great, They look like you look fantastic.
- 15:10And I said, and you do feel great and you get in close and
- 15:13you feel great. Yep, Yep, Yep, I said, and you
- 15:15feel better and your activities, but Yep, Yep, Yep.
- 15:19And naked in front of the mirror is probably worse.
- 15:22And they go 100% because you know what, sagging, hanging skin
- 15:28off of you is not more attractive than fat in some ways
- 15:32is worse. So that's the one part that
- 15:36isn't better. It is that they didn't have to
- 15:38go in and do the body contouring to do that.
- 15:40And then everything's better. So I just say that to them so
- 15:43they understand. I hear you loud and clear and I
- 15:46know what you're frustrated by. But now that you've lost the
- 15:49weight, what we can do is super powerful.
- 15:52You know, operating on Smith is still pretty heavy, does not
- 15:56create the same look and outcome as somebody who's lost the
- 16:00weight when they've lost the weight.
- 16:01We want everybody to lose weight before surgery, right?
- 16:03It's not the reality in the past, because they still are
- 16:06struggling with weight and that's why they came to see us,
- 16:08to have liposuction and other things.
- 16:10Today, they've lost the weight. That's not our job anymore.
- 16:13Our job is to fix them. Well, I love how when you're
- 16:16talking, you, you really connect with the patient.
- 16:19It sounds like you're not just there as the fixer.
- 16:22It sounds like you get inside the mind of the patient.
- 16:24You're really understanding what they're looking for, what
- 16:26they're trying to achieve. And that's why I think you're,
- 16:29you know. Listen, listen, there is there's
- 16:33a power to caring and so I can be some sort of plastic surgery
- 16:38at, you know, whatever and come in and give my advice.
- 16:41That's not a very interesting role.
- 16:43In a way. It's a very personal thing that
- 16:46they're coming to see us for. I should care about it.
- 16:48I mean, care about that particular person and about what
- 16:52they're going through. I've said it for years.
- 16:55I'm still highly impressed with doctors.
- 16:57I mean, I think it's such a dedication to all these years.
- 17:01Every I know works really, really hard.
- 17:03And you know, I certainly have done that.
- 17:05But I still love my profession. I still love being a doctor.
- 17:08I still love taking care of patients.
- 17:10I love talking bitch. I sit back in my chair and talk
- 17:13to them about whatever. I mean, probably only one third
- 17:16of my conversation with them is actually about what they're
- 17:19doing, right? I need to get to know them.
- 17:21I want to know who I'm dealing with and I'm talking about.
- 17:23And I believe me, I hear some things, I can promise you, but
- 17:26you know, I don't try to get into the personal life.
- 17:28But more so they need to know at the end of the day that I care
- 17:31about them. And I think that matters to
- 17:34them. And it's not a show.
- 17:35It is just. I do.
- 17:37No, it's evident. It's evident.
- 17:39Yeah. So you wouldn't care about them.
- 17:40And then what I try to do on the other side of that is not just
- 17:43care, but also be the best of my craft at what I do.
- 17:46And I certainly think, you know, unfortunately, that over the
- 17:50years, the many, many years of teaching and educating and doing
- 17:52live surgeries at meetings and stuff that others have said, oh,
- 17:55oh, actually, he knows what he's doing.
- 17:58Yeah, well, it's evident that it comes through, which is no
- 18:02surprise that you were chosen as a new beauty top Dr. and.
- 18:06Thank you. Thank you.
- 18:07That was a great plug. Thank you.
- 18:09And New Beauty is the sponsor of the show.
- 18:12How has that worked out for you? Tell us a little bit about what
- 18:15that that means to your practice.
- 18:16So new beauty was, I guess it was probably almost 20 years ago
- 18:22or 20 years ago about when it became a thing.
- 18:25And I was in their first edition ever at my Midwest plastic, Sir,
- 18:30where the plastic shows in the Midwest, the one in Louisville.
- 18:33And you have to pay so much per month and everything else.
- 18:36But it gives you so many assets, so many magazines, so many
- 18:40things, but also just being a new beauty physician because
- 18:43people read these magazines and you're there.
- 18:46I've been a new beauty physician for that whole time.
- 18:50I've never left my spot. I never went away for a short
- 18:54period of time and then came back.
- 18:55I was always, you know what, this is the smartest investment
- 18:58I've ever done because it's educational.
- 19:01It's a whole magazine talking about all kinds of treatments.
- 19:04They highlight some doctors. We have the assets for our
- 19:07office so people can pick up the magazine, pick up the brochures
- 19:09they have about tummy tucks and liposuction.
- 19:12So I think it's been a really, really, really important
- 19:15partnership. My whole career almost has been
- 19:18a new beauty physician. So it's really nice that they
- 19:21pick you as one of the, you know, their top dogs.
- 19:22Congratulations, and now that I've met you, I can see why.
- 19:25Well, thank you. So to shift gears a little bit,
- 19:28Doctor Calabrese, as we look ahead to 2026, what new
- 19:33technologies or techniques are you most excited about?
- 19:37Would you say especially those you think have real potential to
- 19:41change outcomes for patients? Yeah, there's new things coming
- 19:45along, so I'm involved in a lot of these things.
- 19:48You know, my friends are in the industry, like people that run
- 19:50the companies, and I've been around for three decades, so I
- 19:54know my name carries weight with their products, so they will ask
- 19:57me. So it's not that I have some
- 19:58special skill necessarily. But more so that I can help them
- 20:03in a way. So one of the new things is
- 20:04Alaclay, which is a fat in a syringe product, which means for
- 20:08people, especially if you think about Ozempic and the things
- 20:11we're talking about, somebody who simply doesn't have any fat,
- 20:15but they need fat for places in the body, their breast, the
- 20:18buttocks, places where they may have liposuction, have a contour
- 20:20deformity and they need the fat, but we don't have it.
- 20:24This is something you can get, they get it from cadavers and
- 20:26they create this in a syringe fat that works really well.
- 20:29I was part of the first study ever to do that.
- 20:32I've given, I think 15 webinars on Ala clay.
- 20:34I think it's such an interesting new area, but it's also fat in a
- 20:38syringe for somebody who needs some fat grafting.
- 20:40They may have some, but they don't want to go to the
- 20:42operating room and take fat out and do it.
- 20:45It's in the office, simple procedure off the shelf, and you
- 20:48can add some fat to area. They have another one called
- 20:51Derma Clay coming out, which will be for the face fat
- 20:54graphing. I think that's really, really
- 20:55exciting. Also regenerative products.
- 20:59So exosomes, stem cells. We were doing PRP from blood.
- 21:03You spin the blood and do that forever and now we have exosomes
- 21:06in a bottle. We have exosomes in our skin
- 21:08care products, skin plated, and there's other ones that are out
- 21:12there that have stem cells and exosomes in them.
- 21:14That's a very exciting arena for us.
- 21:17So I think those are the places regenerative, trying to get your
- 21:19body to build its own collagen through like LA or Caja are some
- 21:24things we do, calcium hydroxyapatite and the
- 21:27stimulation of collagen in the skin very important in weight
- 21:30loss patients like the ones we were talking about to have some
- 21:32of these products that can stimulate their own collagen.
- 21:36Some really new innovative items coming for 2026.
- 21:40And there's more, yes, then there's.
- 21:43More. That's great.
- 21:43So one of the hot topics that I see gaining momentum, kind of
- 21:48massive momentum, because I keep being asked about it, I keep
- 21:51seeing it come up on the show in 2026 is non invasive hair
- 21:56restoration, right? And I noticed that you're very
- 21:58involved in this category on your website.
- 22:01I saw a lot about that. So I'd love to talk about that
- 22:04for a moment because I feel like it's been sort of on the back
- 22:08burner for years. What drew you into this,
- 22:11bringing it into your practice, and what kind of patient
- 22:15response are you seeing? And so I've done hair
- 22:18transplants for almost 30 years. I learned it in my fellowships.
- 22:21So it was something I came in naturally into my practice and
- 22:24offered it because I was in Nashville with Pat Maxwell and
- 22:26Jack Fisher. And so, you know, back in the
- 22:291996 is when I learned how to do hair transplants and been doing
- 22:32them ever since. So hair was part of my practice
- 22:34and part of my dialogue for that.
- 22:37The the problem was we didn't have really anything good non
- 22:40surgical at all. It was a hair transplant or
- 22:42nothing. So that worked for some men.
- 22:44Of course it did not work for women at all.
- 22:47So then you say so that I have this hair background and then we
- 22:51have what I talked about was Wellness, right?
- 22:53And I've done hormones for a long, long time for my patients,
- 22:56especially women, but also men. And also we have these weight
- 22:59loss patients who are losing their hair and menopause people
- 23:04losing their hair. And I told you 91% of all my
- 23:07patients are women and yet I didn't really have a solution
- 23:11for them. So I started looking for a
- 23:12solution for them and I thought, I'm not sure there is anything.
- 23:15Well, I'm wrong, there is something.
- 23:17And so what's really great is some people I know from other
- 23:20things we've been involved with like Thermy and other stuff,
- 23:23Paul Hirschman and Trace Hirschman that all developed
- 23:25something called Get Hair MD. And so that what is that?
- 23:28Well, what that is is they basically organized a company
- 23:34that then has proprietary ownership of certain part.
- 23:37They find the best in class in non invasive hair restoration
- 23:42techniques and products and then they take them, they're
- 23:45proprietary, only get hair MD docs have them and then you can
- 23:48provide them to your patients. So in my Wellness, it's all
- 23:52about almost everybody needs some hair restoration non
- 23:57surgically. And I think the point, Doctor
- 23:59Andy, is that these actually work in like profound ways.
- 24:05If you're already bald in an area like for men, yeah, no, you
- 24:08need a hair transplant. But if you got thinning hair or
- 24:11for most women who just basically have thinning hair, it
- 24:14isn't like, oh, I hope it works. It shockingly works.
- 24:17It could be from the red light therapies.
- 24:19It can be there's some new cryotherapies with something
- 24:22called beta pure that you can infuse into the scalps to get
- 24:25growth. There's certainly PRP injections
- 24:28you can actually do. There's light caps you can wear,
- 24:30take home and wear. They have baseball caps you can
- 24:33put on. They will take the sunlight and
- 24:35really stimulate hair growth. So there's a lot of lines here.
- 24:38So for women, good news. For women and men who have hair
- 24:42loss and are interested in something non surgical, there's
- 24:45really techniques. And so I'm so excited.
- 24:47That's part of our practice. This is incredible.
- 24:50So it really is a wide range. And from my own research, it's
- 24:55not one thing that affects everyone, right?
- 24:57For one person, that could be, like you said, menopause.
- 25:00For the next person, it could be a medication they're on, right?
- 25:03So everybody's got a different reason why they're losing their
- 25:06hair. So it sounds like with this
- 25:09system that you can combat any type of hair loss.
- 25:13Well, you know two things about that.
- 25:14One is that we believe strongly. I already said it about other
- 25:18things, Sex, multi modality treatments, right?
- 25:21We have many things, so often combo treatments.
- 25:23You can do some red light therapy with some cryotherapy
- 25:27for the products as well. But we also have genomic
- 25:29testing. We actually can take a salivary
- 25:31sample, send it to the lab, evaluate the cause of the hair
- 25:35loss and then they will create the products they will use on
- 25:38your hair that are based exactly on what you need to get your
- 25:42hair to grow. And to your point, we're not
- 25:45guessing anymore. We have really solutions that
- 25:48way. So that's one thing we offered
- 25:49to and I think that's very exciting to stop stabbing, you
- 25:53know, in the air trying to figure it out.
- 25:54We can actually send some salivary test and actually
- 25:57develop products that we can use for that.
- 25:59And I see now that women are entering the conversation about
- 26:04hair loss. And I think this is so important
- 26:07because I think that's kind of a conversation that's been behind
- 26:10closed doors or a hidden conversation.
- 26:13But for men, it was always like, you know, OK to talk about it.
- 26:15But I do think that making the female conversation about hair
- 26:20loss more mainstream is so critical for other women to
- 26:24accept everybody else is losing their hair too, and it's OK to
- 26:27get on some type of regimen. Yeah, I think it's right.
- 26:29I think that's out of the closet, so to speak, as it
- 26:32relates to hair loss. And I think that women part of
- 26:35it, they didn't talk about it because they think there was a
- 26:37solution. They just didn't think there was
- 26:39a good choice. They lived with it.
- 26:41And I've seen those patients and they sometimes in desperation
- 26:43would come for hair transplants because they were so desperate
- 26:47for their hair. So having good solutions now you
- 26:49have something to talk about. And believe me, we'll be talking
- 26:52more and more and more about it in the future.
- 26:54I think that my prediction is that hair loss prevention and
- 27:01well, let's call it almost like the prejuvenation that we're
- 27:04doing now with our skin, I think that's going to become an
- 27:08initiative. Like that's that's exciting.
- 27:10Yes, I think that people are going to understand that hair
- 27:15loss is just a part of what's going to happen as we age, and
- 27:19that people are going to start preventative hair loss measures
- 27:24before it happens. And you can imagine for women if
- 27:27you said, you know what, if you're going through a stressful
- 27:29time in your life, if you're going through a divorce, a sick
- 27:32parent, or you're getting near menopause, before you really
- 27:36start losing your hair, here's the regimen we think you should
- 27:39go on. If you start to do it, when you
- 27:41start to have that, you let us know.
- 27:42We're going to put you on some red light therapies to battle
- 27:45that. Why lose your hair and then have
- 27:47to wait the months and months and months for it to come back
- 27:49when we can battle that? I had never really thought about
- 27:51it, but the prejuvenation with hair loss I think could be very
- 27:55powerful. Yeah, I think we're going to see
- 27:57that in the next few years. And so when people come in for
- 28:01the non invasive solution, about how long does it take before
- 28:05they start seeing results? What kind of a timeline do they
- 28:08usually expect to see? It depends which treatment we
- 28:11do, but I would just say that, you know, a couple months I
- 28:14would say to start really seeing it, but you're going to wait a
- 28:16full 6 months to really get the real impact of it.
- 28:19But it depends how aggressive they want to be.
- 28:21Some people could just do red light therapy.
- 28:23I will tell you, I used to think red light therapy like really, I
- 28:27mean, really, that's going to really grow hair, right?
- 28:30And then it actually does. Actually there's one of the
- 28:33people that's part of Gaher MD, who really brought the
- 28:36technology over from Europe one day.
- 28:38And he started a business and he did it in Dallas.
- 28:41And pretty soon he had like 10 or 12 clinics.
- 28:44He had hundreds of employees running this place.
- 28:46All they had was red light therapy.
- 28:49That's all they had. And yet they had this huge
- 28:51business with tons of happy patients who grew their hair
- 28:54out. And I'm telling you that is just
- 28:57the beginning of what get her India has.
- 28:59So I think it's gonna be shocking.
- 29:01You know, to your point about prejuvenation, I think there
- 29:03could be a point time where every patient that goes on GLP
- 29:06ones should be talked about possibly going ahead and
- 29:09starting in some sort of a hair program.
- 29:11Agreed. Agreed.
- 29:12I don't know anyone who's been on GLP ones who's lost a
- 29:15significant amount of weight. And when I say that £20 or more,
- 29:18probably it hasn't had hair loss, right?
- 29:21And. 100% So I'm like, I just wanted to lose the weight.
- 29:25Not everything, I don't want my hair loss.
- 29:26But anyway. So your body doesn't know.
- 29:29Yeah, I agree. It's a stress on the body to
- 29:31lose weight and stresses could create something called telogen
- 29:34effluvium and some hair loss and stuff.
- 29:36So certainly battling that proactively, like you said,
- 29:38prejuvenating it probably is going to be very powerful.
- 29:41Well, we'll wait and see how that goes, yes.
- 29:43I've heard your prediction. So when I see it later on, I'm
- 29:45going to give you full credit for it, OK?
- 29:47Yes, Doctor. Dandy says especially.
- 29:49With especially with the GLP ones, I think it'll become part
- 29:53of the program. So outside of weight loss and
- 29:57hair restoration, is there any other area that you're seeing a
- 30:02demand surge for right now the people are really talking about
- 30:07every day? You already mentioned like the
- 30:09weight loss. I think that's what everybody is
- 30:10talking about every day. I think the other one in
- 30:13Wellness is some of the other things we're seeing in Wellness
- 30:16that we're able to do and that can be from hyperbaric oxygen
- 30:19and which we have and red light therapies, high dehydration.
- 30:23And I will just say this, peptides, so right, peptides.
- 30:27So it is saying when you're losing weight and you're doing
- 30:30peptides, which in weight loss GLP ones are a peptide, but
- 30:34there are so many other peptides, BCP 157,
- 30:37anti-inflammatory, good for gut health In AD.
- 30:41What you can do is an infusion or oral or you can do a
- 30:43subcutaneous injection, testosterone and estrogen, which
- 30:46we know about and some Moreland, which is a growth hormone analog
- 30:50and there's many more. So I don't want to confuse the
- 30:53audience just to say, you know, the idea of using peptides to
- 30:58not have you in the normal range, but it is to have you in
- 31:02a rejuvenated range. You know, Peter Attia, who does
- 31:05outlive the idea of that is we want to live a good quality life
- 31:10and we lose things as we get older and that's what part of
- 31:14aging is. But we can simply restore that,
- 31:16give you a bag and you get back your youth with that and your
- 31:19health from that. So we don't have to just go so
- 31:22long in age. We have ways to combat that.
- 31:25And so I think that's going to be the future.
- 31:27And so I think peptides as the added sort of discussion point
- 31:31for the future will be really powerful in aesthetics and
- 31:34Wellness. I agree.
- 31:35And I think we've just scratched the surface with peptides.
- 31:39I think over the next two years we're going to see an explosion
- 31:43of what those peptides. We just need, we just need the
- 31:46FDA to get caught up. I wanted to say this before we
- 31:49can come off here. This is really, really
- 31:50important. Women deserve to have hormones.
- 31:53And for a long, long time, OBGY, NS and other doctors did not
- 31:59give it to women because it was a study done in 2002 which
- 32:02actually said increase the risk of breast cancer in a very small
- 32:04number of people, very small number.
- 32:06And then for that, nobody got hormones and they suffered and
- 32:11they got osteoporosis and they had broken bones and they got
- 32:13older. They didn't live as good a life.
- 32:15So the FDA more recently just announced that and took the box
- 32:19warning off of that because the data wasn't correct.
- 32:23It's basically the FDA says women can have hormones, they
- 32:25deserve hormones. I think it's super powerful to
- 32:28understand for women to know you need peptide replacement, but
- 32:32you need hormone replacement to live your best, best life.
- 32:36And Harry Kalosva, we are certainly going to be advocates
- 32:39for them on getting those. And I'm sure, are you an
- 32:41advocate for that too? I am, I am, I started 10 years
- 32:45before perimenopause and it, it kept me out of menopause.
- 32:49So, you know, I believe in it all day long.
- 32:51I think that those are great tips.
- 32:53And I think those categories are the future, right?
- 32:56That's what's coming. And I think those peptides can
- 32:59change. But you're right, I think right
- 33:01now there's a little ambiguity on should I try this and you
- 33:04know, is this safe? Is it tested, is it approved?
- 33:07So I think we're going to see a lot more of that, just like we
- 33:09did with the weight loss, right? Totally.
- 33:11People were afraid of it. But now that a lot of studies
- 33:15came on the market. So I think that's great.
- 33:17So Doctor Calabrese, as we wrap up, I'd like to ask you one last
- 33:21question. When people talk about your work
- 33:23years from now, what is the part of your career that you hope
- 33:28that they point to as the thing that you really, truly changed
- 33:32and advanced in the industry? Well, it's certainly from a
- 33:35professional standpoint, I certainly showed that you could
- 33:39be in a private emic practice, which is academic and private
- 33:41practice. My CV currently is 83 pages long
- 33:44of what I've done to to participate to my profession and
- 33:48build my profession. What I'm known for around the
- 33:50world is certainly is breast surgery, aesthetic breast
- 33:52surgery and techniques and things I've done and I've
- 33:55written textbooks on that. Certainly for that as a
- 33:58physician and a human being, I think that my life philosophy
- 34:02has been from Luke, which is for those who much is given, much is
- 34:06expected. And so I live my motto of my
- 34:08life about that, which is that we are given a lot.
- 34:12I've been given a lot and I earned a lot and I've given a
- 34:14lot. And for that I always try to
- 34:16give back and I always encourage others to in whatever way they
- 34:19can remember for those with less, and if you have more, you
- 34:24are to do unto them and share that with them.
- 34:27Those gifts and my gifts of being applied surgeon and my
- 34:29gifts and my wealths and other things to try to do that live a
- 34:32life that's honorable as I complete my career and move on
- 34:36to the next phase of my existence, whatever that is.
- 34:39Well, you couldn't have said it better.
- 34:41All right, We love it. We love it.
- 34:42Thank you. Well, thank you for being here
- 34:44today. I'd love to invite you to our
- 34:46speed round, which has quickly become a fan favorite part of
- 34:49our show. So.
- 34:50OK. OK, I'm ready.
- 34:52If you're ready, I will. Now I got nervous.
- 34:54Now what does that mean? Yeah, now I got nervous.
- 34:56Oh gosh, don't. Be nervous.
- 34:58Don't be nervous. Everybody loves this part of the
- 35:00show. OK, so first we're going to
- 35:02start about with industry topics, OK?
- 35:05Yes, All right. Facelifts under 40 in or out.
- 35:09Out. More screenshots Noses, chins or
- 35:13necks? Necks.
- 35:15Patients fear more pain or downtime.
- 35:19Pain. Most requested celebrity face.
- 35:22Lindsay Lohan. What surgery do you perform the
- 35:25most? Breast surgery.
- 35:27Easier day for you? Surgery day or clinic day?
- 35:31Surgery day for sure. All day long.
- 35:34What comes up more neck bands or jowls?
- 35:38Yeah, both neck bands. Eye surgery, would you say it's
- 35:41the most dramatic improvement, yes or no?
- 35:44Yes, patients, Yes, yes, yes. Yes, agreed.
- 35:47And I think, I think it's the most noticeable.
- 35:50Totally. What do patients regret more,
- 35:52Waiting too long or doing too little?
- 35:55Waiting too long? What's more popular combination
- 35:59treatments or single procedures nowadays?
- 36:01Combo, combo, combo, combo. Most common misconception
- 36:06recovery is quick or results are instant.
- 36:10Recovery is quick. Also most common patient brings
- 36:13a friend or patient brings screenshots.
- 36:16Patient brings a friend because I mean, because I'm probably
- 36:21going to say put your phone down, yes.
- 36:24So I may not see the, I may not see the screenshots.
- 36:26Yes. OK, so let's switch to some non
- 36:29surgical topics. Retinol every night, yes or no?
- 36:33For me or my patients? Patients No red light therapy,
- 36:37fat or favorite. Favorite.
- 36:40Vitamin C serum must have or skip it.
- 36:43Skip it. Micro needling yes or no?
- 36:46Yes. Chemical peels still relevant or
- 36:50gone? Still relevant for superficial
- 36:53skin. Exosomes in or out?
- 36:55In. Laser resurfacing in or out?
- 36:59Fractionated in, full ablative out.
- 37:02IPL still useful yes or no? BBL.
- 37:06Yes, very useful. All right, now we want to learn
- 37:08a little bit more about you, Doctor Calvary.
- 37:10OK, here we go. Now they go right into personal.
- 37:12I got OK. What's your most ridiculous
- 37:16daily habit that actually works? Well, I don't know if it's
- 37:20ridiculous is that I actually as busy as I am.
- 37:23I get up at 4:00 AM every day. It works for me.
- 37:26I work out with a trainer from six till 7:00 every day and I
- 37:30kiss my dogs 100 times a day. So maybe, maybe, maybe the dog
- 37:35kissing is the most ridiculous. I mean like two or three times
- 37:38would be plenty, but. I love it.
- 37:40Do they come to work with you? My other one did before he
- 37:44passed away. These don't because there's two
- 37:45of them now and so and they're just puppies and so they are not
- 37:49nearly well behaved enough to be in my office yet.
- 37:51So I hope as they get a little older maybe.
- 37:53That's what kind of dogs are they one.
- 37:55'S a miniature poodle and one's a moyan poodle, which is kind of
- 37:57a miniature poodle. They're both 20 some pounds and
- 38:00they are adorable poodles. Because my mother is hypo, she's
- 38:04very allergic to dogs, so they're hypoallergenic.
- 38:06So it allows me to have my dogs around my mom.
- 38:10Oh, I love it. I love that.
- 38:11That's awesome. OK, what is your go to meal or
- 38:14snack before you go into surgery?
- 38:17I actually get a Starbucks coffee every morning, a blonde
- 38:20with some cream in it and I will usually do a egg white wrap with
- 38:25it. Do you have any specific morning
- 38:27ritual on surgical days? Not get here on time, any
- 38:32ritual. I'm a little late.
- 38:34I'm no generally I don't have any rituals other than just get
- 38:38here. And what I do with this a little
- 38:40different is I mark all my patients in the operating room,
- 38:42not in the pre op holding area. It's efficient, but also there's
- 38:46too many voices, many people, too many things out in this
- 38:49space, in the OR. It's just really just me and
- 38:51them. And so it seems like a weird
- 38:53place to do as markings, but I do that and it's a ritual of
- 38:55mine. What is one thing that would
- 38:57surprise people if they followed you around from morning till
- 39:01night? My energy level, anybody that
- 39:04knows me would say that is of a very, very high energy level.
- 39:07So I'm not ADD or ADHD because I stay focused to get my work
- 39:10done. But I get before I, you know,
- 39:12I'm up till 10 or 11 and while I'm awake I'm very, very busy
- 39:17and I don't slow down. So are you, I'm assuming you're
- 39:20a regimented person or are you kind of go with the flow with
- 39:24your schedule outside of work? I'm regimented for my work day.
- 39:27I'm really regimented, yes. But I would say that I can
- 39:31certainly relax and hang out and just not do anything.
- 39:34But I would really not do anything.
- 39:35I'm going to always be reading and reading and or working at my
- 39:38desk or doing something. I do not watch TV, so I'm just
- 39:42kind of doing things, playing with my dogs.
- 39:44And I'm just, and I'm reading and I'm catching up on my work
- 39:46and I got my briefcase full of, you know, sitting down here full
- 39:49of work to do. And I don't really mind.
- 39:52My life is my work, although I am married.
- 39:54So just be clear, just be clear If I said that it's more than
- 39:59work, but like, but work is super important to me.
- 40:02And that's if I listen to this. Yes, I'm very happily married.
- 40:07So what is one thing that you do every night, no matter how tired
- 40:10you are? I brush my teeth, no matter how
- 40:13tired I am. Certainly.
- 40:14That's good. Yeah.
- 40:16Thank you. I brush my teeth and I always
- 40:18tuck my dogs into bed. What?
- 40:20Oh, you just said you don't watch TV, so I was going to ask
- 40:23you, you don't watch any TV at all.
- 40:25Oh, I would watch. I would watch the news and I
- 40:27know I will watch. I watch certain series every
- 40:30once in a while if we watch them.
- 40:31We just watched what's called Boots, which was about that.
- 40:35I'll watch certain series, you know, a short period of time.
- 40:38So I watch some. TV but like maybe?
- 40:40Maybe a couple hours a week. What is one thing that your
- 40:43staff would roast you for? Make fun of you about.
- 40:46Did I sing in the operating room?
- 40:48That's awesome. OK, what is the first thing you
- 40:52do when you walk in the door at home?
- 40:55I'm going to guess that it's kissing the dogs.
- 40:57You want to guess because you have to get them because they
- 41:00will jump. I mean they fully, I told you,
- 41:03not well behaved. They climb up on me.
- 41:05One's at training right now, actually the six weeks have
- 41:07gone. The other one, they just jump
- 41:09and climb until you have to finally go to the sofa and get
- 41:11them on you. So yeah, it's because it's not
- 41:13necessarily my choice, but they are fully what my full attention
- 41:16when I get into the door. From that I would say maybe the
- 41:19one of the first things I do if it's I'm just going home and
- 41:22going to be able to stay home is I take my shoes off and then I
- 41:26pour myself 1/2 a glass of wine. Nice.
- 41:29It's nice. Very regimented you.
- 41:31Know is your weekend vibe staying home or going out a lot?
- 41:35I love to stay home, but I end up going.
- 41:37I don't go out late, but I mean go out to dinner.
- 41:39Usually on the weekends we would go out to dinner.
- 41:41During the week, I would be more likely to cook unless we have
- 41:44business meetings or dinner meetings.
- 41:46But on the weekend I would barely ever cook.
- 41:48So we would go out and you know, I'm busy so during the week.
- 41:52So weekends are made for friends and family and so like tonight
- 41:55I'm going to dinner with my mother and my father.
- 41:58So I do family and friend things when I have the time and
- 42:01weekends are more likely. Nice, nice and do you cook or
- 42:05Uber Eats? Never, ever, ever Uber Eats.
- 42:08Always cook. Do you ever hit the snooze
- 42:10button? I do accidentally because I
- 42:12don't know how to turn it off, but generally no.
- 42:14When I my alarm goes off, I get out of bed.
- 42:17Any hobbies that people would not expect?
- 42:20I used to, I was a gymnast forever.
- 42:22So I was, I coached gymnast, I was a coach, I was a judge when
- 42:25I was a gymnast for many, many years.
- 42:27And I think that mostly for me, my biggest hobby is that I just,
- 42:30I, I work out every day. I'm very regimented about that.
- 42:33So I've stayed in very, very good shape even at 63.
- 42:36So wow. You're 63.
- 42:39Yes. Wow, looking 43.
- 42:42Thank you, thank you. That's I put I put on cheese
- 42:45gauze filters. It's really.
- 42:46Great. Wow, wow.
- 42:48How much time per day do you spend on social media?
- 42:522 minutes. 2 minutes. I don't look at any social media
- 42:56a limit. Somebody shows me something
- 42:57that's about somebody, somebody did.
- 42:59I just find I'm really, really busy.
- 43:01And it's for me because I'm so busy it's, you know, you get
- 43:05lost in it and distracted in it. So I simply and I don't also
- 43:09want to know what my colleagues are doing entirely and people
- 43:11get all worried about competition and colleagues and I
- 43:14find it's just not helpful for me.
- 43:16So it's my psyche evening. So I just don't want, I don't
- 43:18look at it, I'll look at yours. OK, OK, deal.
- 43:23OK, so what's one thing you can't leave the house without?
- 43:26My briefcase in my gym bag and a cup of coffee.
- 43:30And that's a wrap. So thank you.
- 43:32Thank you for letting us get to know you.
- 43:35We. Really appreciate it.
- 43:36It's been great having you on the show and I hope you'll come
- 43:39back and see us again next year and tell us all all of the
- 43:42exciting things that you're working on.
- 43:44I would look forward to it. Thank you.
- 43:45Very nice to spend time with you, Randy.
- 43:47So thank you. Thank you, and thanks everybody
- 43:50for joining the Doctor Randy show.
- 43:52We'll see you next week for another conversation that moves
- 43:54this industry forward. Doctor Randy Boyett holds a PhD
- 43:58and is a recognized leader in the aesthetics and medical
- 44:01industry. She is not a licensed medical
- 44:03doctor. All commentary and product
- 44:06recommendations are based on industry expertise and are
- 44:09provided for informational purposes only.