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455: SFA getting better? Starfleet Academy officially a flop? Writer throws fans under the bus? · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: Track the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to Checks. We're a podcast. We watched Star
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  Speaker 2: Trek and other stuff, but mostly Star Trek. I'm Dan.
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  Speaker 2: That's Scott in the middle. He's like the cream in
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  Speaker 2: the oreo that. This is check cast and DANGLEA and
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  Speaker 2: I are the delicious, crunchy yet still sweet chocolate cookie
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  Speaker 2: portions of this podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Not ready to send the link to this episode to
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  Speaker 3: my mom until just now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh stop the ship You've said in front of your
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  Speaker 2: mom on this show.
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  Speaker 4: This cookie metaphor.
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  Speaker 3: Is nothing, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: We're just a special treat for your mom.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she loves bye oh bye bye.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, chest.
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  Speaker 2: Biss, what's up buddy?
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  Speaker 5: Good morning morning everybody, Good morning, Happy birthday.
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  Speaker 4: We have a birthday boy on this on the screen
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  Speaker 4: with us.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I am I am forty nine years old today nine
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  Speaker 2: and I and I feel like I have the phaige.
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  Speaker 4: That's the truck. He ever asks me, what's what I do?
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  Speaker 2: I have the I need some click on DNA. Like now,
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  Speaker 2: every morning I wake up and I say which which
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  Speaker 2: d hurts today? Which elbow hurts today? So yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: that's forty nine. Forty nine's cool. My wife is. I
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  Speaker 2: am one year, one month, and one day older than
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  Speaker 2: my wife, so there's a one month period between now
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  Speaker 2: and her birthday where she's like, yeah, well you're two
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  Speaker 2: years older than me.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: Mathematically you sort of, but yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: My brother and I are like ten and a half
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  Speaker 5: months apart, so there's six weeks for the same age.
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  Speaker 5: And for those listening, I know, you guys know, but
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  Speaker 5: they don't know. My brother has down cinemaon autism. So
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  Speaker 5: for those six weeks, my brother will look at me
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  Speaker 5: and say you and me saying, I know, listen to you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great.
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  Speaker 2: So that was my my I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: heard it. That was my text alert. It sounds like
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  Speaker 2: the Enterprise D computer. All of my happy birthday text
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  Speaker 2: messages are rolling in, so you'll hear that. You'll hear
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  Speaker 2: that sound effect from time to time. Has not to
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  Speaker 2: do with the show Get Confused. There's no there's no
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  Speaker 2: bumper coming or anything. It's just it's just me getting well.
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  Speaker 3: So it was. It was Valentine's Day yesterday and I
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  Speaker 3: got to shore a couple of things that I got
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  Speaker 3: from my my lovely wife this uh, this T shirt
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  Speaker 3: that I'm wearing. It says resistance is futile and a
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  Speaker 3: nice picture of lo cutest with a big heart, a
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  Speaker 3: big heart yep, and uh, in fact, it looks like
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  Speaker 3: I still got the tag. He's still on it. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Got me a little uh, little little posted sticker book.
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  Speaker 3: I got a whole bunch of different posted stickers in
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  Speaker 3: it of the next Nation crew and then a little uh,
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  Speaker 3: a little little plaque I love you to the final
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  Speaker 3: Frontier and back.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I thought it says. Oh, I thought it said
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  Speaker 2: you're the low cutest boy in class.
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  Speaker 3: That would have been fun too. That was fun.
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  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: So happy Valentine's date. Everybody who everyone who celebrats.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome. Yuh. Do you get any big celebration plans today
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  Speaker 4: for your birthday?
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  Speaker 2: Well, my buddy Ryan, my buddy Ryan, he and I
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  Speaker 2: have the same birthday, so we are going out to dinner,
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  Speaker 2: me and him and our wives. Ah, going out to
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  Speaker 2: dinner tonight. It's nice. You know, when you get older,
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  Speaker 2: it's like going out with friends. It's like it's like
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  Speaker 2: a big deal because it doesn't happen. You know, when
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  Speaker 2: you got kids and jobs and mortages and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Hanging out with friends just doesn't doesn't happen as Allen,
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  Speaker 2: So I'm really excited about seeing them.
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  Speaker 4: So that's cool.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, A Tree says it should be the cutest inside
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  Speaker 5: of a medical mechanical article.
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  Speaker 3: Heart.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, since yeah, yeah, he did, he just did it.
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  Speaker 4: Well actually on your Valentine's Day. Well actually actually mm hmm,
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  Speaker 4: totally totally well cool.
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  Speaker 5: Well, uh, you know, we should probably get to it
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  Speaker 5: or no.
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  Speaker 4: Dan wanted to talk about last week's episode real quick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is the new segment we do where
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  Speaker 2: I where I digest the show for a full week.
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  Speaker 3: We did three days like a like a bite.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we need a bumper, We need to we need
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  Speaker 2: to call.
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  Speaker 3: It something like you know, yeah, the dad ships out.
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  Speaker 3: Last week's episode.
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  Speaker 2: Well it's been three days that this episode, so it's
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  Speaker 2: ten days since the last one came out, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I just I think about stuff. And the whole episode
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  Speaker 2: was about Sam learning about the legacy of Benjamin Cisco
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  Speaker 2: right right, who spent years on Deep Space nine. He
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  Speaker 2: had more involvement in the Federation's interactions in the Gamma
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  Speaker 2: Quadrant than any other officer in start in Starfleet. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think we could argue that, right, Yeah, yeah, first
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  Speaker 2: contact with the Vlorida, for contact with the gem Hidar.
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  Speaker 2: He pretty much won the Dominion war, yeah, which means
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  Speaker 2: he freed the gem Hidar from slavery. Where was Where
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  Speaker 2: was Laura Thock in that episode?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: She she referred to herself a few episodes ago as
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  Speaker 2: a freed jem Hidar. Yeah, okay. From from her perspective,
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  Speaker 2: Ben Cisco should be like Abraham Lincoln and she wasn't
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  Speaker 2: even in the episode.
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  Speaker 3: That's a very good point. Yeah, that's a very good point.
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  Speaker 4: That is a really good point.
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  Speaker 2: So that's off my chest. Now we can move on now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: as we do.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure we'll have other problems, but that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I had a thought too, Yeah, you know it. And
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to add to I think we're going to
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  Speaker 3: call this this segment Dan Stu, and I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: add to Dan's Stu. I wanted to stir the pod
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, do it. And I've talked about this
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  Speaker 3: before when we were talking about AI writing stuff. But
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  Speaker 3: when you're you're watching an episode of Track and it
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  Speaker 3: goes through like there's a story by and written by.
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  Speaker 3: So when when it says story by, you know, when
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  Speaker 3: the when the credits roll at the beginning of the episode,
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  Speaker 3: that means that somebody went up to the people that
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  Speaker 3: make shows and said, hey, I got an idea for
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  Speaker 3: an episode, okay, And but they're not writers, they don't
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  Speaker 3: know they don't know how to write dialogue stuff like that, okay,
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  Speaker 3: So then they give it off to somebody who actually
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  Speaker 3: write the episode. So I think there's a problem here
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  Speaker 3: where somebody had a good idea for a story, but
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  Speaker 3: then the writers had never seen an episode of Deep
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  Speaker 3: Space nine or vice versa. I think the problem is
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  Speaker 3: that the writers and the story people are not driving
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  Speaker 3: the way that writers and story people did when they
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  Speaker 3: were doing like Voyager or Deep Space nine. Does that
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  Speaker 3: make any sense?
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  Speaker 5: I mean it's possible sometimes written or story bin and
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  Speaker 5: then written is like the original person took a swipe
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  Speaker 5: at the at the screenplay, right, and then he just
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  Speaker 5: it was changed so much as they continue the development
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  Speaker 5: process that it's no longer the original screenplay. So they
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  Speaker 5: go with the last draft as written.
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  Speaker 3: By, because how could you come up with a story
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  Speaker 3: that that hearkens back? So much to Cisco and talk about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because I thought it was such a cool
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  Speaker 3: idea to have Isla dax it and and I thought
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  Speaker 3: it was such a cool about like the tomato reference.
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  Speaker 3: And then how could you how could you know? Dan
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  Speaker 3: just came up with this thing about how thock? How
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  Speaker 3: could you miss that? How could you have such a
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  Speaker 3: great idea over here yet miss this idea over here?
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  Speaker 3: Where is the disconnect?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's is that he also had another son.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. Yeah, not a single mention. I noticed that
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  Speaker 3: during the episode two. And I'm like, you could at
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  Speaker 3: least say, you know, and his brother you know or
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  Speaker 3: something you know, or or Jake could have said, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: me and my brother yea, you know because he mentioned
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  Speaker 3: the mom. Yeah you mentioned Cassidy. Yeah, Cassidy and my
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  Speaker 3: mother lived happily ever after, or you know, or maybe
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  Speaker 3: dropped a name and we would have been like, ooh,
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  Speaker 3: that's the name of the broad do we I don't
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  Speaker 3: even know if we ever knew the name. Like she
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  Speaker 3: never gave birth on the show.
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  Speaker 4: No, she knew gave birds. She said she was pregnant.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I've seen in like in a book
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  Speaker 5: or a comic book, they named the son Ben after
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  Speaker 5: after Ben.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I'm sure there's a book or comic book or
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  Speaker 3: something where he's a starship captain by now.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, and then there's another one that I saw
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  Speaker 5: that where they named him after the grandpa.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought it was Joseph, but I
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  Speaker 2: could be wrong. Yeah, it's been a long.
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  Speaker 4: Time getting from there to all right, let's.
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  Speaker 5: Still I'm trying to think of what I can use
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  Speaker 5: for dance, Like should I get some Neelix footage and
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  Speaker 5: you know, edit that round back there you go. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: all right, well let's let's let's get to the news
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  Speaker 5: because we've.
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  Speaker 4: Got a lot to go through.
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  Speaker 3: Star Trek news.
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  Speaker 5: All right, so our first news story comes to a
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  Speaker 5: from IMDb, and uh, this is kind of interesting because
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  Speaker 5: it's this news is starting to make the rounds right now.
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  Speaker 5: But the headline reads Star Trek, Star Treks Starfleet Academy
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  Speaker 5: sees poor ratings as it fails to hold an audience.
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  Speaker 4: No shit, Yeah, so what's going on.
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  Speaker 5: Is because it takes so long to get the ratings,
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  Speaker 5: we're just now getting the ratings for the premiere episode,
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  Speaker 5: that two episode premiere that started six weeks ago. So
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  Speaker 5: this is just now the tracking for for internet viewing
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  Speaker 5: streaming services, right, And what what IMDb is reporting is
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  Speaker 5: that Starfleet Academy failed to break into the top ten
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  Speaker 5: Nielsen charts. So that that's pretty bad, especially with its
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  Speaker 5: it's just an expensive show.
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  Speaker 4: But what really makes this worse on fortunately.
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  Speaker 5: Is if you remember they did a two episode premiere,
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  Speaker 5: meaning you had double the chances, double the streaming to
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  Speaker 5: break into that top ten. It's not like you were
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  Speaker 5: competing with one episode of another show. You know, it's
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  Speaker 5: one episode of another show compared to the two that
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  Speaker 5: you're releasing that week. So so that hurts, right, the
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  Speaker 5: fact that they couldn't even break into the top ten
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  Speaker 5: with a two episode premiere.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, going to kill the Tar Trek.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's the tagline for this show, Starfleet Academy.
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  Speaker 5: It hurts, Yes, it's it's pretty rough man, and they're
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  Speaker 5: spending you know, millions and millions of dollars. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it's one of the most expensive Star Trek shows, if
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  Speaker 5: not the most expensive, and and it's.
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  Speaker 4: Not even breaking.
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  Speaker 3: It.
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  Speaker 4: You can't just there's no copium around this.
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  Speaker 5: It's a bad it's a bad precedent for this show
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  Speaker 5: and we got another season of that coming.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I feel bad. I know I've said this before.
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  Speaker 2: I feel bad. I come here Sunday. Yeah, I log
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  Speaker 2: in and I spend an hour taking a dump on
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: this show. And that's not what this podcast is supposed
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: to be, right, And I feel bad doing that. But
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: the reality is this podcast is the only reason I
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: watched this show.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't finish the accolade. I didn't bother, didn't bother.
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  Speaker 2: So this is this is not for me. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: enjoying this. This is supposed to be entertainment. I'm gonna
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: go do something else. The only reason I'm here, The
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: only reason I watched the show is because because I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: M hm. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to get through Ironheart right now. I
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: didn't even bother, didn't bother. It's on in the background.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Usually watched this show twice. I watch it on Thursday
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: when it comes out. Sometimes I listen to it in
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: the car while I drive to work on Thursday morning,
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: and then usually Sunday morning, I'll rewatch it and take
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: some notes for this show. I couldn't get through it today. Yeah,
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: I took a bunch of notes, and when News said, spoonge,
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  Speaker 2: that's the last thing I have in my notes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I got enough here, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I got enough.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I wasn't watching the show to enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 2: I was watching the show to have enough content to
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: do this podcast. And I got to the point where
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: he said spooge, and I said, yeah, I can talk
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  Speaker 2: for an hour about this show. That that's that's enough.
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  Speaker 3: Let me make it.
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  Speaker 2: Let me go make an egg sandwich for myself because.
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  Speaker 3: And here's the thing, the reason. Let me explain to
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  Speaker 3: the audience why you're happy to apologize. Catch this. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: we're not talking about good Trek being bad, because if
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  Speaker 3: this was good Trek being bad, if this was Deep
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  Speaker 3: Space nine having a bad episode, we would have a
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  Speaker 3: fun time talking about Ala Moraine or some bad parts
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  Speaker 3: of a good episode. Okay, it would be fun. It
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  Speaker 3: would be funny, like trash and like bad parts of
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  Speaker 3: a good episode or a bad episode of a good series.
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  Speaker 3: That's not this, And that's I feel like that's why
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  Speaker 3: you're I feel like that's why why we are having
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  Speaker 3: to apologize, right Dan, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so Star trekh nine, There's there's plenty of
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  Speaker 2: problems with that movie. There's plenty of issues with that movie.
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  Speaker 2: I could do a two hour podcast of all the
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: mistakes that they made with that movie. But you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I rewatched that one all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's fun and it's fun to watch because
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  Speaker 2: because the good things about it outweigh the bad things
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  Speaker 2: about it. The problem is there's an imbalance here with
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  Speaker 2: this show. I don't enjoy it enough to write off
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  Speaker 2: all of these things.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, let me get to my next news story,
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  Speaker 5: because yeah, we're still in the news.
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  Speaker 4: This is yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: This next one hurts for me personally. This is coming
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  Speaker 5: to us from giant freaking Robots. And let me bring
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  Speaker 5: up the headline, Star Trek's best writer just threw fans
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  Speaker 5: under the bus. So they are reporting on Tawny Newsom,
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  Speaker 5: who recently did a Ask Me Anything on youtubebe and
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  Speaker 5: she went on to defend start Starfleet Academy because she
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  Speaker 5: is one of the writers and a producer and a
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  Speaker 5: star of it as Dax. But she went on to say, quote,
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  Speaker 5: there is something different with this show because our cast
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  Speaker 5: is so young, and I just want to say really,
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  Speaker 5: I uh just say, really, think about who you are
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  Speaker 5: tearing down. So she is saying that the big criticism
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  Speaker 5: against the show is the fact that it's young, and
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  Speaker 5: not any of the other problems that we've mentioned or
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  Speaker 5: anyone else, Right.
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  Speaker 2: But they're putting young people in adult situations. Well, so
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  Speaker 2: you can't say, you can't say, oh, but they're just
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  Speaker 2: kids when they're they're shacking up with each other, they're
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: going bar hopping.
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  Speaker 5: M Well, and I would say, I don't think we've
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  Speaker 5: ever even said that, Oh, the problem is shows that
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  Speaker 5: they're young. It's like we we mentioned situations, the writing,
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think it's that the show is geared
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  Speaker 2: towards young people. I don't think you're the demographic it's
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  Speaker 2: geared towards Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, but yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: Those people aren't watching it, right, We just got the
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  Speaker 2: We just got the numbers. So the people, the people
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  Speaker 2: you're aiming this show at, aren't watching it. The ones
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  Speaker 2: who are watching it aren't enjoying it. One plus one
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  Speaker 2: equals two. It's time for a course correction. That's what
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  Speaker 2: that says, right.
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  Speaker 5: I I would agree. So yeah, so that that one
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  Speaker 5: kind of hurt me because I'm like, oh, okay, you're
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  Speaker 5: you're not taking responsibility or.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, how long from the time the rudder turns to
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  Speaker 3: the time the ship turns? Is it from the time
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  Speaker 3: they hear you know, they heard all of the noise?
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  Speaker 3: So if we want you know, uh, what was the
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: name that everybody came up with for the new Star
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  Speaker 3: Trek show that everybody wants leg we want legacy and
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  Speaker 3: we hate this to the time they hear that and
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  Speaker 3: then make it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, the reports are they did offer Jerry Ryan a
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  Speaker 5: legacy type show, but it wasn't going to be what
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  Speaker 5: they originally planned for legacy. So that's why she didn't
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  Speaker 5: do it, like it was going to just be her
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  Speaker 5: and Raffie and none of the other characters not not
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  Speaker 5: what was the name Jack Crusher? And you know some
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: of the Legacy TG people pop in every now and then,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: so that's kind of crazy. Yeah, oh well, Bill says,
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  Speaker 5: this episode felt like a course correction to me. We're
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  Speaker 5: gonna talk about that. I have thoughts about that. It
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: did feel different.
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  Speaker 4: I will give you that.
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  Speaker 3: It did feel like thought about this.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: Oh nice, I can't wait, all right, And then our
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: last news story comes to us from what is this
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: what I forget the name of this website Red Shirts
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: will Always Die. And we're learning a little bit about
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: behind the scenes of Starfleet Academy.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: The headline is star Trek.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Actor confirms costume was uncomfortable and was a lot more work,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: So we're.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Learning more from Gina.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Yes here she plays the Laura Thought the klingon Geminar Hybrid.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and she was talking a little bit about some.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Of the improvements from season one in season two because
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: they are shooting season two right now, as I understand it,
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: like yeah, yeah, but she's basically saying that the prosthetics
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: that she uses now in season two, because she's referring
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: to now, is a lot more comfortable to wear. She's like,
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: by no means are they comfortable. They're just more comfortable
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: than what they were before. Poor lady just got to
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: wear these things were like sixteen hours a day, so
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: that's pretty rough. Also says that they cost Hume is
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: like just not comfortable at all either, So she's feeling
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: all awkward in the entire time that she's shooting.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: So that sucks.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: And when you get a lead role in track, like
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: after the excitement wears off, you must have looked down
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: and go, oh it's a Cardassian.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, damn it, damn it, I couldn't be.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah or Ti yeah, okay, yeah, well that that's what makes.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well like somebody like like Doug Jones, right, who
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: was through, who has been in a ton of movies
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: under a ton of prosthetics all the time, so that
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: poor guy is always under it, right, And that's what
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: you're known for because you'll you're willing to do it,
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I mean Michael Dorn must have just walked out of
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: his trailer every morning and looked at Patrick Stewart and
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: been like, I hate you.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Well, when he moved over to Deep Space nine, that
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: was that was one of the conditions that he had.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yet you have to figure something out and cut down
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: the make the time, the time in the chair.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, well about sixty years and they still can't
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: make comfortable costume, yeah, because they just have to look
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: good and it doesn't matter what they feel like.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: You know. Well, eventually this is gonna be in ten
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: five years, the actors probably aren't gonna have to deal
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: with this anymore. It's just gonna be dots on a face.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe like Robert Downe Jr. When he did Iron
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Man one, he had to wear the entire costume and
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: by end game he's like, no, I'm not wearing a Yeah.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: The actor that played Yeah, the actor that plays They
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: cling on on Academy. I forget his real name, but
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: Jaden Yeah, he did. He did like an ask me
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: anything on Instagram and he says it took like four
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: and a half to five hours every day to put
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: on that makeup and so like he's in the chair
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: and then he's got to go shoot Like it's crazy.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Also, I have an issue with his name.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people, do you know why?
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: It's like, okay, you know, welcome to trick Cast with
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Dan Yell. You know what the heck?
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's it's a little spot.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm a cleon Jemadar hybrid names m Yeah that
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: come on, Jaden? Okay, come on. Writers.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's all the news stories.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: So there you go.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, tough times, but uh well we should probably get
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: to it the main topic.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: So here we go.
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: Fun will now come out.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I'm angry because we've got we've got a writer right
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: here that that does a Star Trek podcast with about
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: fourteen listeners. It would run circles around all of you.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Dan would do a great job.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he's the writer, he's the right.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Wait I did on my screen, I'm pointing at Daniel.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're pointing to Dan.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Some people go this way, some people go that way,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: some people go both ways. It's right, that's right.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Uh, this guy, that guy.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: So yeah, we had the sixth episode of Starfleet Academy.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: The episode was come Let's Away.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: It's a Shakespeare quote. Is that what it is?
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it means it means come on, let's go. Yeah,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: come let's away.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I thought I thought of many read this comic book.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: So basically what we have is the new version of
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: the Kobyashi Maru. I guess kind of. Uh.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: They have to they have to go on a field
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: trip to like a ship graveyard and start up a
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: ship and nobody's done this before. And uh, when the
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: cadets go to the broken down ship, they get attacked
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: by some new villains, the what are they called the Reapers?
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: The Furious from from X Men? Yeah, from from Firefly? Yeah, Firefly, Oh,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Firefly. There was there was a there
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: was a team of villains in like late eighties X
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Men comics called the Reverse and they were all I
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: think they were like cyborgs or something.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Reavers were a villain from Firefly and they
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: were part human part they were humans.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well these guys are human and party and cannibal.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, they were phased, I guess.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what's so what is the story with that?
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Did they ever?
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: They didn't really explain it is, well, okay, cool.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Thanks thanks for that.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently they're from one of the books. They're they're
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: a villain in one of the books.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you didn't read the book. I got it
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: right here.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the book called?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's this this book right here?
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, it's.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that book.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think they were a cool villain. I
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: thought they were.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: They might have they might have been if we knew
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: anything about them.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about them.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know anything about them. I know that
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Lieutenant Commander Chaperone's voice was two thousand dubbed.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, Like it was awkward how obvious
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: it was that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: It was dubbed?
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh, the uh Marine commander.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy gets sacrificed himself and and and again,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna you know, I'm just gonna.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Says dubbed or not.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: No, just the sound of his voice, you could tell
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: he was in a studio after the after Yeah, everyone
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: else sounded like this, and he sounded like he was
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: right up on the mic like this.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: But so Caleb.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Was running his mouth and using foul language in front
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: of that guy. And I know he's a teenager and
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: he's edgy and whatnot. But again, this is a military academy, Scott,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: when you were in basic training, did you like use
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: foul language a front atil sergeant.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Like like it was cool?
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: What would and what would happen to you if you did?
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Regardless regardless of where you.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Were, where it was we could march, they would yop.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: If you you to the drill sergeant, the start would
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: stop the entire company and make me drop.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: And yeah, if you could you could be on your
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: way down the stairs. He would have you do them
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: on the stairs with your head at the bottom of
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the stairs.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Completely unacceptable. Yeah.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, uh so this episode, yeah, they basically go in
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: a field trip and we have to start up the ship,
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: we get attacked, and the only way to stop the
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: furies is they've got to reach out to Paul Giamatti,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: and Paul Gimodi says, I will take care.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Of this for you, for them.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: No, that's not that's not the only way. That's not
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: the other way. The other way they wanted they wanted money.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: They wanted money.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, they wanted money. And the captain of this show
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: was immediately ready to write a check.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: And if you don't have a problem with that, you
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: don't know anything about Star Trek or.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: The world.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't negotiate with terrorists.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: You do not.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: And if you do, you negotiate, you know just right,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: the right right, chat.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Thank you for your down payment, and ask for more. Yeah.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you're you're a thousand years old. How
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: do you not know this? Well?
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: And then the other thing is they all seem to
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: know that this is a villain, right, Like they're familiar
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: with these people. They may not interact with them a lot,
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: but they know of them, right, So like we didn't
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: have contingencies or something.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the writers may damn sure that everybody knows
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: that they're a villain. They did everything to let us
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: know that they're Paul Giamatti did everything except and I
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: mean everything except twirl his mustache to let us know
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: that he was the bad guy, including including say I'm
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: the bad guy.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: So I know he double crosses them in the end.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Everyone knows he double crosses him in the end. But
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: there's a line where they're they're working on getting his help,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: and Admiral poop Apples says, the Federation has suspended his
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: warrants for seventy two hours. That makes zero sense. You're
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: wanted for crimes, we need your help. We're gonna not
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: you come help us. We're not going to arrest you
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: for seventy two hours. But once that clock is done ticking,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: it's game on again. There's still a warrant for your arrest.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: What idiot would ever participate in that arrangement? It makes
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: it makes zero, zero sense, zero sense.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: And at the end he's like he's now the Federation's
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: most wanted man. It's like, yeah, he should have been
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: in the first place. Mister Yeah.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Well, and then part of the.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Deal was they were away from any other ship. No
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: ship could come and reach them in time to really help.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Except his well or Discovery.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Discovery's got the instant drive.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're making they're they're really trying to avoid talking
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: about Discovery, like they'll mention Discovery's name, like, oh, Discoveries
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: and dry dock or Discovery except for Discovery or whatever.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's there's there's plot holes everywhere. So the Admiral
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: is there via the hollow communicator, right, he's not really
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: on he's not really on the ship. Yeah he's and
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: he says to news, thank you for consulting with us
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: on our problem. So he's not there to physically do anything.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: He is there to consult.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Why is he there?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Why isn't he also a holographic projection. There's no need,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: there's no need for him to come onto the ship.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: And yes, yes, and if instead he was just a
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: hollow projection, you wouldn't have to have this stupid line
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: about them suspending his warrants for seventy two hours. You
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: can't arrest a hollow projection. It's it's just so dumb.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: There's just so many things that they do that make
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: zero sense.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say the buzz on the internet is
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: that people like this episode the best so far.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Well, they don't know any better, I guess.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: I think, honestly, comparatively to all the other episodes, I
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: think it is the better one maybe, but that's not
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: saying much higher.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I think there was one. There was one part of
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: our guessing game thing, you know, our prediction show, where
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: we said, you know, does any member of the I
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: think I don't know if this counts or not, but
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: does any any of the cadets die? You know? And
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: there was a it wasn't a it wasn't a Starfleet
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Academy cadet, but there was a young ling that that
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: that died.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, and I kind of liked that guy.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: He was growing on me.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you know, as this show goes and they
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: use modern language, modern sometimes inappropriate language like spoog it
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: all over everyone, Interstellar, Bestie, Space Boo, my mind starts
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: kind of expecting things like that and sometimes looking for
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: them in places that it might fit. And and like
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: most grown men, deep down inside, I'm a twelve year
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: old boy, and I still have those twelve year old
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: boy thoughts.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: So go on.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Kyle gets injured, Jaden says, this might scar. He says,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: what's a soldier without a few scars? And then Jaden says,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: are you sure you're not part klingon? And they both smile, right,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: and my mind, my twelve year old boy mind translated
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: that too, got any cling on in you? You want some?
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Oh god?
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: And I can't help it, you know, I said, My
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: mind goes there. Every man is a twelve year old
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: boy deep down inside. But when the lieutenant commander bites
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: the dust, yeah, who's in charge?
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: There should be a chain of command, a clear the absolutely.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Needs to be an established chain of command. Yes, every
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: and we just had an episode a few weeks ago
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: where they have this competition to figure out who's going
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: to be the team captain or whatever. Okay, every mission
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: has to have an established chain of command, and they
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: don't do that. This guy bites the dust and then
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: they all just they just work together. They just work
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: together to get the job done. And that's not how
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: it works. No.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: No.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: It was interesting to me that they use Sam to
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: talk to the old computer, like she could talk to
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: it like a like a robot, instead of.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Like, finally they're using her to do something.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Except she was just yelling at a computer like like
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: as long as I say it with enough emotion, the
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: computer will do something different.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Well, I guess I would like kind of set parameters
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: on what she can and cannot do, because right now
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: it's just it's magic and whatever they need, she can
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: And and you know, well they've also they haven't established
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: how she manifests, right she if she has a hollow emitter,
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: where it is, what its limitations are. She took phaser
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: fire this week and was and was injured. That made
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: no sense. It might have made sense if they had
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: had established some rules. Yeah, but they haven't done that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: We all, we all knew, everyone watching Voyager knew that
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the Doctor could make himself tangible and intangible at will.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: But oh, somebody hit the hollow emitter and it fell
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: off and he's gone until somebody taps on it and
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: the damage.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: What wouldn't Yes, the guy hit in the chest with
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: a phaser fire, he'd be like sticks and zones.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Yep. So they haven't established anything with right right.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: So I hope they explain it because clearly she is
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: of a different variety of hollow than the doctor. So
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping that they explain. Yeah. You know, like I
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: think everybody's imagining that she's either being projected or that
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: she's got like a a mobile emitter like maybe inside
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: of her, like inside of her torso or something like that.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: But maybe they came up with something cool, like a
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: like a nanoonet that surrounds her or something something. Yeah,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: visually that sort of makes sense the way she was,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: the way it visualized her injuries.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it would just be nice to know just how
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: it functions.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: I'm sure we'll get some sort of book, you know,
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: ten years from now that explains it all and breaks
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: it down.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: But or maybe the next god, if they say your
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: nano neet emitters were blah blah blah blah blah, I'm
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: going to get the biggest nerd alert ever.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: It'll say. It'll say written by so and so, based
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: on a story by Strong Beard.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: So question.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Couldet? I don't you know, I don't know these people's names.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: So uh.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Cadet combat swallower.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: How long until she's expelled?
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Do you think she's either out or there's going to
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: be a pivot?
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Well, they got to do something because.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Or a sacrifice. She's out, you'll never see her again.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: There's gonna be a pivot in her character, or she's
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: gonna make a sacrifice.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I would love to see a story where she realizes
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: that this is.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Not for me.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I have I have something to offer the universe, and
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: maybe she discovers, she discovers what it is. I have
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: something to offer, but this, this is not it.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be an interesting storyline just for the show,
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: Like not everyone is for the Academy, and which is
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: not necessarily wrong, it's just.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Which we've we've actually seen that in early episodes of
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Deep Space nine that were rumblings that Jake would go
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: to Starfleet Academy someday to follow in the footsteps of
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: his dad, And that's not that's not what he did.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And and who did go the criminal the criminals kid, Yeah,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: surprised everyone and and and turned out to be you know,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: a war hero and dealt with PTSD and and all
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: of that, and it was great, great, great, great storytelling.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: So the idea that everyone has to follow this path,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't believe that you can
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: have good stories that go against what is expected. But
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: they still have to be good stories, right right.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: No, Dan, they have to. It doesn't have to be
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: about the story. It's about the message and the irony.
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: Of the show that Led wants to celebrate different opinions
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: and everything, but everyone's got to do.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: The same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, it would
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: be cool.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: I mean because it's not like she could go be
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: a diplomat or a teacher or something else, right, and
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: that would be interesting just to be like, hey, guys,
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: this just isn't for me.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there might be an episode where it's it's not
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: just her, like I don't want to see an episode
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: just about her, but Liker and maybe the doctor. You know,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I'm waiting for a doctor centric episode. Maybe that's it,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: like where she has an episode with the doctor and
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: you know, the doctor is now a therapist.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: And and you know, and everyone loves the member berries, right,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: So how great would it be to hear the doctor say,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: have I ever told you about my friend Nelix? No,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: who's your friend Neelix? Nelix was the greatest this in
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: the world. He was the greatest this in the world.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: He was the greatest this that I've ever enlists all
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: of these things. He wasn't such a great starfleet officer
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: m h. But we would have been lost without him.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I will say this. I think
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: that this episode, I did enjoy it comparatively to the
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: other ones. The other episode, I would say the first
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: episode was all right. But the problem I think with
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: those two being my favorites is they're the least focused
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: on the kids and the least focused on that the
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: premise of the show was originally right, and so like
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: when when most of the Internet is saying like, oh,
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: this was an all right episode, they're not loving it,
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: but saying it's all right, that's a problem with the
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: very premise of the of the show, right. And the
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: other thing is people are saying, oh, and they're finally serious,
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: they're they're interesting. Yeah, that's also saying you don't like
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: the tone of the show the way it's being presented.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: That that's a problem.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Tone of the show. Can I say something?
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: I was thinking about the tone of the show and
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: it reminded me of part of the tone of a
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: show of Voyage or Dace nine and the Next Generation.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: I would like to see an episode, maybe an episodic episode.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Do you guys remember the episode of Next Gen d
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Sace nine Voyager where it would just be an orchestral
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: move in due and then it would say Captain's lock
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and then it would say what we're
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: doing at this planet, and then there would be a story.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: There would be a conflict, there would be a beginning,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: a middle, and end along the story. We would have
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: a b story that would be kind of interesting, not
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: necessarily a life and galaxy ending story, but would be
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: an interesting story.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, Brian's getting married, yeah, exactly.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: And then while that's happening, there's other stuff going on
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: the main story. And it was an interesting really you know,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: maybe there was galaxy ending consequences, but it was just
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: a really good story beginning, middle, and end, and then
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: you tied it up nicely.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: I'd like to see that.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not going to see that, though, am I
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: the only one that wants to see that. I would
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: love to see that. I've been saying I've been saying
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: for years, and so I'll say it again. They they
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: were when when Discovery came along, they were convinced that
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: the old formula didn't work anymore, so they started using
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: this new formula.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: What's his name from Family Guy Seth MacFarlane came along,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: picked up that old formula and just started making episodes
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: of Star Trek with a different name on it, and
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: they were great. They were They were fantastic. So the
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: idea that the old formula doesn't work anymore is bullshit.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: Well, and what's even funnier about that is The Orville
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: had the modern talk right, the modern way of speaking,
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: and nobody really complained about it because the.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Episode well because you knew it was seth MacFarlane and
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: he had he had to sell it to the network,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: and he's known for comedy, so he had to. That
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: was the way he got the show made. But if
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: you watch the show, as as the show goes on,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: it's less funny and more serious star and more Star
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Trek very much.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: So season three was it was just it was just
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: a series of It was just a Star Trek series.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: That episode in season three where molloy gets stuck in
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: the past and he finds the girl and he finds
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: the girl that he fell in love with with the phone, Okay, that.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Is that?
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: That is my favorite episode of The Orville. Yep, it's
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: probably one of my favorite episodes of Star Trek, even
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: though it's not Star Trek. And whenever I try and
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: sell someone on watching The Orville, I say, watch watch
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: this episode and then skip forward and watch this episode,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: and I give them those two.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because at the end of the that episode, your
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: stomach was a not it's your fist. Yes, yeah, you
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: were on the edge of your seat, completely invested in it.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: You know, you were you were pissed, you were relieved,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: you were angry, you were conflicted.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: When he's yelling ed, ed please, ed, please, don't take
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: my family away, it was not wrench.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: I'm getting upset right now.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Just think about that.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's when it's the best man.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: When when about the series that I'm watching right now.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm plenty of upset about it. Not in the
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: way you're saying.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've tried to get excited about it. You know,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: there's there's been moments where I've got hey that's Dax. Yeah, yeah,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: you know, and I'll and I'll continue to try to
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: watch it for those moments because it's them.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I said, hey, that's Dax too. But I said, hey,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: that's Dax, same words.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: That's right. I I thought that was seeing we were
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: talking about you know, good you know, bad parts, bad
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: episodes in great series and then good parts and bad series.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: I thought that was a good part in a bad
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: series or good you know, a good maybe even a
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: good episode and a bad series. Because I also like
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Tonny News and I thought they did a good job
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: on that particular part. I could, you know, if they
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: could explain away how the Dak Symbians could live forty
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: billion years or whatever? Right right, right? Twelve unders.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: But you know, we're gonna find out that Dak's Dax
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: was at the Last Supper. Yes, now there was, there
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: was Stuss Judas Dax.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: There was some misinformation going on in the Trill Society
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: about the Symbians during the run of Deep Space nine.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Remember at first they said, you know, only there weren't
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: enough Symbians to go around, and then they found out
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: there kind of were. So maybe there was a lot
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: of misinformation about the symbianths that we didn't know. Maybe
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: information from the Sybians could be transferred to the hosts,
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: and the hosts could transfer their information to new Symbians.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've always wondered if the Symbians can go with
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: the change.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Who knows? Yeah, who knows how it works?
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: Because the changings are basically immortal, right, Like, isn't that
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: what they say that they live forever and ever?
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's ask let's ask Alex Kurtzman see what he knows.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Please please please don't give him any ideas.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Let's let's ask him what he knows about trillions and there?
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: So, how did you watched? How did the first symbio
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: get into the first host?
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: I've always wondered this.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Because I always I always think of it if you okay,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: so we've watched them be implanted on the show, and
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: if you think of it as a reverse c section,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: uh huh, the.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Guy to watch the egg come out of a chicken's buttes,
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I bet, yeah.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: You know, when ancient symbios implanted themselves, and once, once
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: the two minds melded together, it's I imagine the first
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: thing the symbiot says to the host telepathically is I'm sorry.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I bet it was.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: I bet it was more of a convenience thing. I
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: bet the first time it happened, it was just outside
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: the body. And then after years and years and years,
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: you know, surgeons said, hey, let's try this. Let's see
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: if we can surgically implant them.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Oh like it, like it grafted onto their back or something,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: or like it just you know.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: You held them, and it's like, oh my god, I
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: can hear your thoughts.
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: See my head canyon is they used to eat the
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: symbiods and then somehow like there was a psychic residue
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: of eating them.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: The symbia was the worm and the tequila bottle you swallowed.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: You swallowed the worm, and you woke up somebody different.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know who is more mentally unstable. Yeah, we
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: all are, Daniel, You're sick though.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: God, well, I mean they're on the planet. There's gonna
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: be like cave people back in the day. They're gonna
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: be like, what is that gooey thing in the water?
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: Let's eat it?
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: Let's eat it?
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god. Oh Jazz was with the real
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Maybe they got high off of them, maybe, you know, yeah.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. So there, or.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Maybe going back to him dance in the Cimi, it
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: was like you got.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: You want, you want some just started wiggle's tail a
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: little bit.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, look at this turns around.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: It's like, you guys need help.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, How does this episode end?
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Oh how does it end?
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: It ends up?
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: The Paul g mined he tricked them and and.
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: He really wanted that other ship to leave some space
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: station or something, and he destroyed it and it was
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: all a ruse.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, does he Paul Jimuty's character. He's a bad guy, right, Yes, Okay,
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: he is a bad guy. I just wanted to make
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: sure nuts Rakka Nustifer is his name in this. So
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Nustfer apparently is a bad guy. The writer, Uh, the
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: writer's hint a couple of times that he's a bad guy.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: And that's the problem. My wife and I had a
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: conversation about this The Best the Best Villains, and this
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: is where I was going to talk about being a writer.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: So take note, Daniel sarcastically is because Daniel is a
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: great writer, and I have never even thought about it.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: The I think the best villains don't think that they're villains,
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: call themselves villains, don't twirl their mustaches. Lex Luthor does
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: not see himself as a villain. Magneto does not see
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: himself as a villain. They see themselves as saviors, and
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: they're written as seeing themselves as saviors and they're the
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: best villains. Is there a better villain than Lex Luthor
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Thanos and Magneto Joker even even or tortured or tortured
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: or tortured so Joker uh Darth Vader. Okay, so tortures.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: She thinks she's the hero, she's order chaos.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, so this I did nothing role. Where are
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: my monuments?
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm yeah, he he wants to know. He legitimately
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: thinks there should be monuments with him on bejor I Street.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: The Bajorans like children, I guide them.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I love them.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Now, Christopher, Uh, this guy, he literally calls himself the
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: bad guy. Yeah, and and he I don't know what
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: child wrote his dialogue in this episode, but he just
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: he just he just was twirling his mustache and and
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: talking to.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: Well, no, don't.
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: Don't you remember in in Ratha Khan when Kan tells Kirk, Hey, Kirk,
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: I'm the bad guy.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Did he No?
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: That's what I mean.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: I'm getting to Yeah, not at all.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: I just they're they're trying with my I guess my
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: point is that they're trying way too hard to try
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: to make the audience hate this guy. And I guess
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: they're trying to. I guess they're trying to see if
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: the commandant will snap or the comment.
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: I almost wonder if they're like, man, people are gonna
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: love Paul jim Oni. His character is too much fun
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: because he's having fun when he's there. You can clearly tell.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: He's obviously a good actor. I can't stand him, not
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: for anything he's ever done. I just hate everything he's
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: ever been in. Yeah, you know, no, it's I just
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: hated the movie Sideways. My first experience with him was
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: watching the movie Sideways in the theater and I hated it.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Andy and I got two friends that I went with,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: my friends, Gabe and Steve and I. We talk about
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: it all the time, and I went to that movie
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: in the theater with them, and and I hate both
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: of my friends for this because they took me to
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: see this abomination of a movie. And Ever said, I've
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: had this bias against Paul Giamatti. So I'd like to
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: apologize to Paul Giamatti. I still hate you. But that's
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: just the reality situation.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna find something he was in that you love
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: that I'm looking it up right now. I'm gonna sue it.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Okay, He's been in so many things.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: He was Rhino, yes that I know, the way over
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: the top accent, straight out of Compton.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't straight out of Compton.
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: Scott's favorite movie, straight out of Compin Scott, were you
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: more of an mc wren fan or a.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: Snoop Dogg fan?
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: It's more of a Snoop Dogg fan.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right?
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: I always like Wren though, but Ren was good.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, all right, okay.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: Well, anything else we want to say about this episode?
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: No, Sam is injured? Still? Now? Was that a Is
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: that a Romulin or a Vulcan that die? Or or
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: a mix?
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: I mean they're I I think he's Vulcan, but I
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: mean they're they're unified at this point.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: The female is a rom the female cadet.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, but what you're asking, what you're asking is like saying,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: is that guy Italian or is a human?
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Right now? Okay? In the thirty first century, that might
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: be the question. Yeah, yeah, okay, so.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: They're both all right, put it this way. The Navarren,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: they're both Navarreen. He is from Vulcan descent. She is
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: of Romulin descent.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, maybe.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Eastern Romulan Eastern l Okay, he's guys Romulin with jellybeans.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: But I think they're north and south.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a Northerner. Yeah, okay, all right, so he's dead.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Sam is oh and the and and the that's one
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: one more point before we bring into a close Uh
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: get a little bit feedback, can we can the writers
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: please go back and watch any episode that has to
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: do with betazoids. Please. Betazoids are telepathic, plain and simple.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: They telepathically, can talk to each other, and in a
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: lot of other episodes, can talk to other non telepathic species.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Half betazoid and half human species such as Counseler Troy
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: are not telepathic. They're empathic, which means they can't read
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: people's thoughts, but they can detect other people's emotions. Am
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: I off base on that a little bit? She she's
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: super betazoid.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, she can talk to Riker telepathically.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, we've we've seing.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: That m hm.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: Thoughts. Yeah, she could. They can talk to each other telepathy, yes, yes.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: But she also could sense where that ship was in Nemesis.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Wasn't there something she was helping them target the torpedoes
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: because sense where that was.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: I thought you were father and son.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: I thought you were getting to the girl, and I was.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Getting to the girl. They said, what did they say
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: in the episode, We're we're a species.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: She can mind sugar, mind speak or something.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: She said, no, they're you're just you're telepathic.
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: That's no.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: But but remember she's got the implant in her like, yeah,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: so I called her in my in my head, because
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: I can't remember her name, I call her Beta Max
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: because she's she's better than v HS, more compact. So
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: she's betazoid, but she's like super betazoids. So she's got
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: to wear the the inhibitor. So Beta Max, you can
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: call her that. It's okay, all ax, Beta Max.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so okay, so Beta Max. But can we establish
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: that betazoids are just simply telepathic. Most betazoids of old
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: school are just telepathic. Mm hmm okay. Counselor Troy was empathic,
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: which means she wasn't telepathic with other with most other people,
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: but she could with other betazoids. She was telepathic with
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: other telepathy beta betazoid. She was empathic. And here in
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: the twenty third, twenty second century, it's not in the
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: script what they can do. And I understand that Beta
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: Max is a super betazoid who apparently can blow out
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: your ear drums?
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that I had a problem with too. How did
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: she do that?
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Because she's Beta Max but she's.
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and did she blow out everyone else's ear drums?
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Do?
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: No? And I thought I was going to because she goes,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: don't think you're gonna want to be with me after this?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, clo.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: She closes her eyes and she does her her Banshee scream,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: but only the only the the reavers.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: So because they're part bat, it's like this, It's like,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: who is the character in the Boys who could just
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: pop people's heads with her mind?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, Yeah, that's.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: That's what this reminded. That's what this reminded me of.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: So to me, it was like, Okay, I take the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: inhibitor out. The inhibitor is there because I'm dangerous to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: other people around me because my telepathy is too powerful. Okay,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: So she pulls that out and then she directs her
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: uncontrollable telepathy towards specific people and it hurts them.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: Beta Max, Beta Max.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: And then the Beta Max theme starts and then we fade. So,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: believe it or not, I didn't really have a problem
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: with okay, with with I did you did?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I did. Because I was like, how is she
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: doing this?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: Like through the through the my celial network, but she
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: like yells right and blows everyone's heads up. So she's
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: not there in the room yelling, and she like possessing
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: somebody there and yelling through their vocal co like no.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: She's no, she's yelling where she is, and then she
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: is projecting that. She's projecting her anguish telepathically and overloading
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, I mean, okay, So if I could
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: speak to you telepathically, Daniel, right now I'm speaking, I'm
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: speaking in a normal volume. If I get excited as
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: I'm speaking to you telepathically, I I I telepathy louder
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: at you, and and you can sense that is a
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: difference in what I'm saying now compared to what I say. Yeah,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: if I telepathically scream at the top of my lungs,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: that probably doesn't feel good inside of your head. Now,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: multiply that by a million, because she's beta max and
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: and it overloads that part of your brain.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: I get what happened. My thought is how did that?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: So?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: Okay, So, yes, their heads exploded because she she did
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: the yelling or whatever. That that's fine.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: It's just How did the yell get into that room?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: Is my question? This beta Max right, This is.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: The same way, the same way any form of telepathy
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: moves from one person's head to another. Okay, there's there's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: an imbalance of pretendium in her head.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: Or or okay, or the other thing you could have
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: done is put me in a room with Paul your money.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: I'll scan his brain and I'll get the information we
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: want out of him, instead of making a.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: Deal with him.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah again writing yeah, yeah, Scott's losing it. Scott's losing it.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: He's turning red.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's the funniest thing I've heard. Balance pendum.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: So I use that all the time in Facebook groups,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: whether whether it's whether it's a Back to the future,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: whether it's a Back to the Future group or a
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Star Wars group or a Star Trek group. When someone says,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: you know, how does the enterprise travel at this speed
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: without the whole ripping apart as it's it's it's coded
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: with an alloy coled pretendium. Yeah, and it always gets
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: a laugh no matter how many times I use it.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: So you could use that. That's too you you Scott
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: beta max beta max and pretending him perfect.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: All right, Beta Max, Well we we should get the
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: listener feedback because we talked about her.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Beta Max, all right, here we go.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Listener feedback.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: Uh, if you want to join us, you can just
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: x up in the chat and we will send you
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: the link so you can join us. We do have
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: chasbits on the line, Scott, did you get that email?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: We got an email from a listener?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: You know what? I didn't even check my Yeah, che
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: let me bring him.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: Chaz Biss and then and then we can do the
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: email after groups. All right, there's jazz biz.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: Hey there you go.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: There?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, can you hear me at all?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: Okay? Now yeah, no can All right?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: My mic wasn't close enough, I guess.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: Okay, So would you think did you like the episode?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I was out of country and trying to watch this
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: show was kind of hard, so I had to watch
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: it on my phone and roll my eyes several times,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: especially when he said spooch. Like when he said that line,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: I was just like, I hope you know Paul Giamanni
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: knows what the hell that word means, you know, yeah,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: because you know he's older than us, and he might
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: have like, oh, that's probably scientific or something or some
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: kind of slanging them made up.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he's aware.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's aware.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: But he goes to Hollywood parties. He knows what's up.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he is definitely the epitome of a mustache
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: toiling villain.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the actor Paul Jimani is having a
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: blast plane.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know he's having a blast.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Holly Hunter's having a blast. I mean,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: there's no telling how much volume they give her because
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: she's laying around everywhere with her feet showing so h
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: and man like that. Whoever's doing the audio on here,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: it's really hard. I have to put the subtitles on
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: sometimes on some of the characters when they're speaking.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: You know, Oh, I thought you were talking about on
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: Trek Cast.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about I don't talk about.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: It's good, okay, good.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying on Starfleet Academy, like, who's ever
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: doing the editing or whatever on the audio? It's sometimes
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: for all hardly you get the special effects coming through
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: your speakers, but you can't understand what they're saying, and
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: you see that on your subtitle. Spooch, You're just roll
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: your eyes and you're like Okay. Then I told my
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: wife about it and she's like, this is Spoochual.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: Star Trek and like, yeah, I said, no they don't, but.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: Well they do now.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: But yeah, And what are you thinking of the show overall?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: Are you liking it overall?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: The last and there's business pieces I like about it.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: I like this week's villains right right. I thought they're
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. I wish they would have ate the whole
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: cast and it'd have been awesome. And then Martin all
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: the kids die and then well that didn't work.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: They're eating that one girl. Oh I find his combat
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: inside of her.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Ye, all this left is the holographic girl. She's like,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: oh no, they can't eat me, but I'm still alive.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: So all they could they should have killed all the
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: Starfleet Academy people and just left the military war colleague.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: I hate to saying. It's like it's sad when you
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: like slither In better than you know Gryffin door, right, yeah,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: so when are they going to bring in the other
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: two colleges to compete with them?
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: So yeah, Science Academy, yes they have, Like oh yeah,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: that'd be great. Like, well, I wonder if they are
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: going to bring in something like that, you know, like
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: we've got a visiting you know, Naval Academy from the
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: andorans or.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: Oh that's kind of cool and.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: College.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: Well, the Klingons don't play nice with others.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: So and okay, why cast a guy to play Klingon
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: and then you have to, like I call him other
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: tune kling On because that's not a zeral voice.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the decision, like they.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: His voice to sound deeper and and everything.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: Now he does. I saw a video of the actor
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: doing the voice addressed that, yeah, Jaden doing and he says,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: now when I talk, you know, when I do the voice,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: I talked down here and I did a voice coach.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: But they do add a modulation to the voice, you know.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, but why.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't have to do that with any other Klingon.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: Why can't he just a single other Klingon, you know,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, Michael Dorn never needed you know, a modulation, And.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Name any other Klingon that needed their voice modulated?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: Well, and why would you do it? It's distracting.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't do it to Christopher Lloyd. They didn't
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: do it too.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Or lor sir beator. Yeah, just think all the actors
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: who played Klingons.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so just make him sound like his true self.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: It's like, want to lower it a little bit. Okay.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: Klingons typically larger, taller, whatever.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: If I was playing a Klingon, I would probably talk
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: in a you know, back, you know type of voice,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: but I probably wouldn't talk up here racist Scott Rais,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: you can write a letter to the Klingon.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: I want the ned Flanders kling On now. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: time for you to die. Okley buddies, that's awesome. Well,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: what are you open to see in the last few episodes?
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: Anything that you're open for?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: What everybody wants? Better writing? And yeah, it's just the
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: way it started. Like they started the show off with
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: the sex scene, right and they're playing this music from
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Grey's Anatomy and like that right there, text me on
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: the shows like what am I watching? This isn't you know?
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: At least give us like a good star Trek theme
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: or or something to start the show off with. You
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: could have this the sex scene that you're doing, but
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: not like modern music.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: I've also wanted to address the sex scene. I've reached
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: the age where I want the sex scene implied, but
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want to see it. Yeah, I
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: don't know what that means. I don't know what that
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: means for me.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: You went to fade to black, like they go into
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: the room, hold hands, fade to fly and then start to.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Take the shirts off. And then yeah, I don't want
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: to see the actual act. I'd like to like the
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: intimacy coordinator, rocket.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Ships or the thing the trend going into the tunnel, and.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: I want to see the cells shaking a little bit,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, I want to see the warp core
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: kind of rumbling.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: I mean there, they're supposed to be in a college, right,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: Where was the sock on the doorknob?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: Right? You know?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: So Scott, when you were in basic training, Oh, here
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: we go. When you were in basic training, were there
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: were there female privates with you?
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: Yes? There were?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: And and were you allowed Were you allowed access to
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: the dormitory area?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: What was the penalty if you were found in the female.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Dorm Big trouble, huge, huge, huge, huge trouble, matter of fact,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: matter of fact, on my on my second tour. Okay,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: we're talking like two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: when we were in Iraq, we weren't the males and
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: the females were not allowed to be in each other's rooms.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Yeakay, yeah, so.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that would not be acceptable behavior in any
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: kind of you know, military. It's called maintaining military bearing. Yes, okay,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: it's about discipline, maintaining military bearing. That's that's not a
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: person in front of your CEO. That's that that kind
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: of thing.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: It's it's but particularly this I can remember, there were
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: specific lines like physical lines. You're not allowed down this hallway. Yeah,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: and if you are found on the other side of
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: this line down this hallway, there will be hell to pay.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, major consequences. Yep.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any discipline on this show or
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: anybody's read anything, a handbook, anything like bring in a supervisor,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: show them how a military college would you know, operate.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, medory like moderate discipline like they've seen. We've seen
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: like court martials, like you'll be reduced in rank and
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: you're going to the brig and we've seen you know,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna let this slide. I'd like to see you're
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: gonna get a field grade Article fifteen, and you're gonna
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: be doing you know, crappy work for the next two weeks. Yeah,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: there's there's there's no in between.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: I was hoping that Wesley Crusher come back as the
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Traveler shown the starbursts from Maneuver and they all crashed
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: intoto each other.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: And you guys really want to go out of blazing glory?
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: Will Bill not so wild?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: The sex scene took me, took me out, but them
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: intimacy was important to explain the psychic connection with doing them.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, long on it.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's other.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Ways they could have opened up. They could have opened
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: up with with the two of them embracing each other
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: and the show and the scene goes exactly the same. Yeah,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: except you don't see any of the the stuff right right.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: Right towards you should have. They're in the scene talking
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: to each other, but really they're having sex mm hmm afterwards.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like they're in the minefield.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in the minefield and they're like, oh wow,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: they're doing it, but we don't realize it.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: That would have been interesting, is you just see them
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: walking through this field and you're like, where the hell
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: are these people and they're just talking and then it
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: it's revealed what they're doing.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: Or or they're in the rec room or some place.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Take the sex out of it for a minute, because
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: the point is to show her abilities, right right, right, Okay,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: So instead they're in the rec room waiting for this
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: assignment to start, they have some time to kill or whatever,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: and they're they're just talking and he says something to
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: the effect of, I wish we had access to a holodeck.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: I would love to I would love to show you
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: the such and such river on this planet that I
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: went to. And she says to him, we don't need
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: a halo deck, and she reaches out and embraces his
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: hand and suddenly they're there the place that he wanted
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: to show her. They're there, and he.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: Says, what what is this?
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: How is this possible? Oh, we're in your mind. This
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: is something I can do.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: They just they just accomplished everything that they accomplished in
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: this other scene, except it's not cringe. They cut right
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: to the chase. It's actually kind of sweet.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: The other thing too, is like she's telling them about
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: other species and what they do at one point, but
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: like literally The last episode was all about how he
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: knows about everything and he's so smart and like, so.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I'm Jean Gray where she's too powerful in
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: there and she's gonna turn into the phoenix.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: Well and so.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: Sorry, no, I was just gonna say, you know, she's
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: super powerful, she's Beta Max.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: Her brother is there?
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Also?
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: What is his Yeah?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: I know he doesn't have the thing, but what is
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: his level of ability?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: We don't have the touch or the power.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't see him do anything.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: So I got chasm with that. Oh I know why?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, he.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: Doesn't have the matrix of leadership.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: He does not like, he's not gonna go auto box
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: and roll out.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, there's a tub right there to my left, sure
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  Speaker 2: full of transformers. Don't make me pull them out?
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  Speaker 4: Amazing?
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, So what's the deal with him? Does is
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: he a regular Beta's head? Is he like does skip
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  Speaker 2: a generation or something? Does he not have the touch
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  Speaker 2: at all?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: Is he ashamed of? I mean, is the dad gonna
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: flip out and they lose Beta's head?
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  Speaker 5: Because I mean they we just did an episode about
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: how precarious that realignment was.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: So she she's not dead, right, She's she's not dead,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: she's injured. Yeah, right, but what would that be enough
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: for the dad to be like, you can't you're not
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: taking care of my daughter. Look what happened?
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  Speaker 1: Weapon? Yeah?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And then Beta's head pulls out?
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 6: So is uh.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: Twelve?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: What's his name?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: What's what's this your mom watches?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: Watching?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: Hi? Mom?
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: What's his name? The main character Jacob Mirror.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: Mirror? Yeah?
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Is he gonna have to so this all right? So
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: here's my prediction, because he's the last one who had
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: who had access to the inside of her head. Yeah,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: he's gonna does Does he have to? Does he have
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: to go into like Calma World next week to show
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: her the way and show her the way out?
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: Like I can't find my mom, but I can find
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: my girlfriend. Yeah yeah.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: And you know the secret weapons he's talking about is
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: his mom's Paul Giamoni, Like he has something that he's hiding. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: I bet it's the kid's mom and she's going to
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: do something we.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: Need They imply something that like because they had sex,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: that's what makes the connection that they can read each
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: other's lines. He's gonna have a fun time explaining that
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: to the dad next episode.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: Until until everybody's like, but I could hear her too, right, right?
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: What's going on to work? College?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Hear yeah?
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: Boothby is like I hear yeah, Oh that's hilarious.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: Scott's something.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, last week's episode, what'd you think of Tony Knews
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: playing backs?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: I liked it? Yeah, I didn't like it.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: I thought she wrote herself in the show for that, so.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: I uh, she is such a beauty. She is such
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: a beautiful woman. I wish they had picked some better prosthetics.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, I thought.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, I was wondering if they were trying
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: to hide that.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: I think they're trying to hide you, trying to hide
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: the trail Scotts.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: Halfway through the episode, I'm like, wait a minute.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: They should have given her long hair to cover it
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: or something and covering Actually, yeah, I think they were.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: Hiding it because we've seen her as Mariner, so we
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: can't we can't have her look too much like Mariner.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's my.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: Fact, because that's last That's when my wife ruined it
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: for me. When she like looked it up, She's like, oh, yeah,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: she's playing Islid Dax, And I'm like wait what.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: The same thing happened to me because I couldn't get
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: the app to work when I was you know, I
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: was in Italy and for some reason, like when you're
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: out of country, it doesn't work, like Paramount was being goofy.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: So yeah, that's what happens. All right, Well, thanks for
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  Speaker 5: being on Chas biz. We still got that email to
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: get too, Yeah, okay, thanks all guys, Yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: All right? Uh Scott, Scott, you got the email?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I do, Okay, yeah, if I can get my
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: phone to work, okay, this email, I'm I don't know
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: how to pronounce your name. I've seen your Facebook. I'm
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: gonna assume it's Venise Terrain. You are the significant other
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: of Devaal Yeah, yeah, okay, Hey there, trek Cast, it's
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: your Trekcast New York City Course Freelance correspondence number one
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: with some thoughts on episode six. Devall's out on assignment.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: I think he's just tied in the bathroom, keeps complaining
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: about crappy crappy rock to gino oh no, first pointing out, yeah,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: what a great shot of the Stanley water bottles. Nice
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: to know they still exist and survive. The safest place
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: she Knows is a nineties rock music video reminding me
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: of No Rain by Blind Melon. For some reason, uh,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: this extremely poor judgment with no backup plan just in
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: case anything could go wrong. It's an abandoned ship, so
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: with that, no one could possibly find a place to
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: do their own thing like somebody else could come in,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: similar to us humanoids exploring abandoned sponsor places. Even with
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  Speaker 3: the regards to your students, keeping safety in mind, not
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: having an extra security detail outside or around the abandoned
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: ship you This alien pirate has a horrible wheeze and
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: their potato sack face kept reminding me of The Stranger's movie.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: Side note, every time I hear this theme song, I
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: keep on picturing an Asian drama and gets my brain
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: disoriented and forget they're supposed to be a star trek.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: Why is it whimsy? Back on track? I honestly wonder
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: how the explanation to the families went that the students
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year died in a prime
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: account of irresponsibility for a team building exercise that they
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: could have learned in some other capacity. Fun fact, it's
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: my first time telling the computer to send this log. Yeah,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: for my first star trek communication communication. Bye guys, Venisse
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: signing off. Hey, thanks for thanks, thank you email. We
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• 1:24:29
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