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Justice for Chase Massner: Suspect is on the run! · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Climb Stories with Nancy Grace on Serious x M Triumph
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Speaker 1: Channel one thirty two. Chase Master is in a rock
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Speaker 1: War veteran, a husband, a father. His wife told us
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Speaker 1: she dropped him off at a quick trip in Cobtown.
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Speaker 1: His family says he was last seen at a friend's
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Speaker 1: house in Kennesaw three years ago. It's like he vanished
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Speaker 1: from that home, not to be seen or heard from again.
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Speaker 1: Despite some intense searching, a few clues have been found.
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Speaker 1: We have absolutely no answers at all, least trying to
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Speaker 1: determine if remains found in the backyard of those of
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Speaker 1: an army veteran who has been missing now for three years.
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Speaker 1: This is the home where three years ago, twenty six
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Speaker 1: year old Chase Master was last seen. The search continuous
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Speaker 1: for a man wanted in connection with the disappearance and
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Speaker 1: now death of a young Cobb County father and veterans.
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Speaker 1: But it was the last person to see Master alive,
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Speaker 1: and he is now charged with concealing a death. You
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Speaker 1: have to question why somebody would make the decision all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden to run a handsome young man goes missing.
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Speaker 1: His mom has poured her entire life into raising him.
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Speaker 1: He grows up. He is the golden boy. He can
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Speaker 1: do no wrong. Everybody loves him at school, He's the
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Speaker 1: apple of her eye. He marries, they have two beautiful
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Speaker 1: little girls. He becomes a war that fighting for our
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Speaker 1: country in Iraq, and he comes home. What he managed
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Speaker 1: to escape in Iraq meets him here on us soil death.
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Chase Master. For three years, we have
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Speaker 1: been trying our best at finding Chase as what we
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Speaker 1: know now is that our worst dreams have come true.
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Speaker 1: I Meancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us. In the last hours. A body has
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Speaker 1: been found buried under a patio covered with cement, and
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Speaker 1: the man that Daniel Wilkerson from Channel forty six and
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Speaker 1: I tracked down, pounded on his door and basically forced
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Speaker 1: him to talk to us, is now on the run.
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Brad Clement to Daniel Wilkerson from Channel
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Speaker 1: forty six joining me today along with Lee Egan from
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Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com and several members of Chase's team.
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Speaker 1: Daniel right now, Brad Clement on the run. I don't
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Speaker 1: understand it if he had spoken at all with the
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Speaker 1: defense attorney. The attorney, if he was worth his salt,
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Speaker 1: or she was worth her salt that goes in her bread.
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Speaker 1: Would have said, look, we don't know any cause of death.
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Speaker 1: You can probably get off with the disposing of a body.
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Speaker 1: But instead this guy goes on the run. What do
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Speaker 1: we know right now? Where is Brad Clement Well? The
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Speaker 1: latest coming from my source close to the investigation, UH
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Speaker 1: says that the fugitive unit here in Cobb County. They
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Speaker 1: have searched Brad's mother's house and they did not find him.
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Speaker 1: Of course, she has a basement in that house. I've
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Speaker 1: been there several times, and so the thought was a
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Speaker 1: general thought was that he may be there. Of Course,
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Speaker 1: her address was listed on his arrest warrants, so they
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Speaker 1: did not need a search warrant to go over there.
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Speaker 1: But I just got that news that they searched that house.
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Speaker 1: I've been told by my source that the fugitive unit
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Speaker 1: they know the general area where he is. In their words,
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Speaker 1: they said, we are one step behind him right now.
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Speaker 1: But of course he is not in custody. Nancy Well
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Speaker 1: this week answered one question regarding where is Chase Masner.
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Speaker 1: We now know that his body has been found behind
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Speaker 1: a so called friends home, but now even more questions
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Speaker 1: have presented. This young guy, Chase Masner, any rocky war Vet,
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Speaker 1: went missing March after a search which many people found questionable.
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Speaker 1: It seemed as if law enforcement was not taking his
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Speaker 1: disappearance seriously, telling his mother they think you just dropped
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Speaker 1: off the grid. The people that knew him the best
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Speaker 1: knew that was not true, and that somehow he had
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Speaker 1: met foul play. And after I spoke to his mother
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Speaker 1: and his wife, Amanda, I knew for sure Chase didn't
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Speaker 1: just go missing. He just didn't walk away deciding never
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Speaker 1: to come back and joining me right now is Trey Morgan.
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Speaker 1: This is Amanda's mother. Trey, thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: being with us. How is Amanda and the girls? M
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Speaker 1: thank you. Nancy's nice to speak with you. Um, they're
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Speaker 1: holding in and they're not They're not doing very well
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Speaker 1: unless you can imagine. Um. But he says, Ada's birthday, so, um,
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a very good birthday for her.
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Speaker 1: They we're all just real this morning. Trade. Do you
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Speaker 1: believe that all this time she's been holding out hope
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Speaker 1: that Chase was alive? We all did. I believe, I
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Speaker 1: really think we all did. But you know, after three years,
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Speaker 1: when you don't get any teams off the cell phone,
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Speaker 1: you get no no um, no no um against at all,
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Speaker 1: just to where he is. No one calling in and
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Speaker 1: saying I might have seen him here, I might have
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Speaker 1: seen him there. It's three years, no social security run.
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Speaker 1: You have to start thinking that that's probably what happened.
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Speaker 1: Because this man would never just walk away. He would
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Speaker 1: never walk away. He was so fruscious. You know, when
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Speaker 1: I first found out about Chase's disappearance, I listened to
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Speaker 1: what place had to say, and I thought, well, with
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Speaker 1: this guy just bagged it. I mean he was arguing
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Speaker 1: with a man. I mean, here's the deal. He had
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Speaker 1: been in Iraqi, came home, he could not re assimilate
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Speaker 1: into civilian life, and wore overseas and came home and
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Speaker 1: was killed by a coward. Can you believe the way
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Speaker 1: this whole thing played aid out. It's just so hard
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Speaker 1: for me to put the pieces together, Trey, because the
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Speaker 1: reality is, he came home, he had a hard time assimilating.
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Speaker 1: He couldn't get back into civilian life. He had a
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Speaker 1: wife and two beautiful baby girls that he had to support.
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Speaker 1: He couldn't find the job. He wanted. He finally just
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Speaker 1: took a job at Quick Trip. And you know, as
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Speaker 1: I was saying the other day, you don't grow up
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Speaker 1: as a kid going gee, one day, I want to
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Speaker 1: work as a cashier at Quick Trip. But this guy
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Speaker 1: was making money for his family. He was coming home
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Speaker 1: at night to his wife and his children. Yeah he was,
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Speaker 1: and they were just arguing, like all couples argue, and
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Speaker 1: that night everything went sideways. And what's interesting Trey with
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Speaker 1: me is Amanda's mom. Is that Brad Clement, who by
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Speaker 1: his own admission, was the last one to be known
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Speaker 1: with Chase. Actually, and Daniel, you and I have it
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Speaker 1: on tape, tried to point the finger at Amanda and
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Speaker 1: told us what he really thought happened was that Amanda
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Speaker 1: was quote blowing up Chase his cell phone that night
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Speaker 1: to come back, and he thought the next day while
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Speaker 1: he ran errands, then Amanda came and picked him up,
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Speaker 1: and she did not and did away with him and
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Speaker 1: he was never seen again. She did not do that.
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Speaker 1: And I'm really kind of angry um right now. It's
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Speaker 1: it's been hard on all of us because the police
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Speaker 1: were told at the same time that they were told
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Speaker 1: about the dumpster to investigate the dumpster. There's a dumpster
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Speaker 1: out front. They were also told that there's a brand
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Speaker 1: new concrete paddy in the back. They were told this
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Speaker 1: three over three years ago. They did nothing. They did nothing.
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Speaker 1: And if you would have been found three years ago,
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Speaker 1: then we would have had closure. There wouldn't have been
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Speaker 1: any of this chaos and turmoil and a circus, and
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Speaker 1: it just it just breaks my heart. It's just the
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Speaker 1: saddest case I've ever I've ever heard of. When you
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Speaker 1: say turmoil and a circus, what do you mean by that?
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Speaker 1: Just the attacks and the harassment and different things of
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Speaker 1: that nature. I mean, I really, Amanda Ada, I say,
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Speaker 1: and I feel like police aided in in that because no,
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't know, they didn't do anything. They couldn't listen.
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Speaker 1: Stephanie's over there crying, and I mean every time I
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Speaker 1: think of her right now, and my heart just breeks,
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Speaker 1: and we are all asking them she please help us,
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Speaker 1: and nobody did anything. You know. Another another thing joining
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Speaker 1: me from crime Online is Lee Egan. You know Lee
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Speaker 1: Tree Morgan is right. The police were told at the
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Speaker 1: beginning by Stephanie, who has chased his mom, please go
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Speaker 1: search the dumpster police. You had to beg and beg
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Speaker 1: and beg for them to search the dumpster. And then
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Speaker 1: cops come out finally, and they searched the wrong dumpster.
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Speaker 1: And so are you telling me Lee? Is this correct
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Speaker 1: that at that time the cops were also told about
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Speaker 1: this freshly late cement and Brad Clement's backyard. Yeah, they
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Speaker 1: absolutely did. Um. They did tell coll police about that slab,
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Speaker 1: and they kept treating this case as he just walked away.
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Speaker 1: They wouldn't listen to these ladies. And three years went
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Speaker 1: by and just nothing. It wasn't until the cold case
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Speaker 1: unit came on that they actually listened to what these
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Speaker 1: ladies were saying and got something done with me. Tammy
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Speaker 1: Chiles from Team Chase, Tammy, thanks for being with us, Tammy.
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Speaker 1: What was the police answer when you guys told them
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Speaker 1: about this cement? We had told them favorite times and
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Speaker 1: I was told that that area had already been searched
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Speaker 1: along with Brad Pouse. It had already been done. There
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Speaker 1: was no need to do another search. Out to Mike Swigger,
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Speaker 1: what do you make of the most recent development that
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Speaker 1: Brad Clement is now gone, possibly with a gun. We
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Speaker 1: don't know that yet. Possibly. Uh. And why if this
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Speaker 1: was not nefarious, why would he go on the run, Mike,
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Speaker 1: he wouldn't. And what I make of it is that
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Speaker 1: that his his running is is an indicator of, you know,
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Speaker 1: that he's bear some kind of guilt that he believes
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Speaker 1: he has. That he's not following the advice of his
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Speaker 1: attorn Ernie as as you said earlier, any any attorney
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Speaker 1: with their salt would say, you know, to turn yourself in,
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Speaker 1: you know, go through the legal process. And and he's not.
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Speaker 1: He's not doing that. He's chosen to run and and uh,
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get very far. He's he's
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Speaker 1: he didn't have anything when he was in one place,
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Speaker 1: He's going to have less on the move. So, Mike,
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Speaker 1: I understand you're offering a reward for bringing Brad Clement
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Speaker 1: back to the jurisdiction. Uh, that's correct. Um, he this
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Speaker 1: man needs to be caught and he needs to answer
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Speaker 1: for what he's done. And I definitely don't think he's
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Speaker 1: the he's the criminal genius that that people kind of
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Speaker 1: make him out to be. And um, I think that
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Speaker 1: he's a scumbag and he's got a lot of low
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Speaker 1: life friends around him and low Life. They'll sell each
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Speaker 1: other for a dollar. So how much is the reward,
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Speaker 1: Mike Um, I'm putting a thousand dollar reward out for
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Speaker 1: the capture of Brad Clement, a thousand dollars more of
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Speaker 1: Mike Swigger information that leads to the arrest of Brad Clement.
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Speaker 1: What do we know right now, Daniel Wilkerson from Channel
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Speaker 1: forty six about a cause of death? Because see, the
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Speaker 1: only one that knows right now what happened to Chase
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Speaker 1: Masner is Brad Clement. He knows. So if it were
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Speaker 1: an innocent cause of death, just let's pretend, Daniel Wilkerson,
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Speaker 1: Let's just pretend for a moment that Chase Masman had
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Speaker 1: a heart attack, which of course he did not. But
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Speaker 1: let's pretend why didn't he call nine one one? Why?
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Speaker 1: I mean, if when you and I are together work
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Speaker 1: in this case, remember that day we were driving around
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Speaker 1: the car and let's just say you had a head
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Speaker 1: on collision, why would I take your body out and
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Speaker 1: bury it in a shallow grave and go on the run.
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Speaker 1: Could somebody answer that for me? Daniel? Well, this is
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Speaker 1: the thing, you know, Brad, even after the body was found,
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Speaker 1: when I talked to Brad over the phone. He said, hey,
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Speaker 1: he said the same thing he told us before. My
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Speaker 1: mother's are nurves. I know that you don't get in
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Speaker 1: trouble if, uh you call the you know, parabedics after
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Speaker 1: a person has overdose. But this is the thing you're
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Speaker 1: Rufford told both of us, Nancy that Brad's behavior that
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Speaker 1: day was erratic, and so I'm gonna go hypothetically here. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know probably from your work that when a person,
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Speaker 1: if a person is on some kind of substance, they
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Speaker 1: don't reason the same way that they do when they
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Speaker 1: have a clear mind. And so yeah, logic may tell you, hey,
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Speaker 1: if you say, if this wasn't overdose, called the police,
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Speaker 1: you may not do that if you're under some kind
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Speaker 1: of substance. Daniel Wilkinson, Channel forty six, When are they
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Speaker 1: going to give us a cause of death? Well, this
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Speaker 1: is the thing I would think, and you probably know
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Speaker 1: this too, Nancy. Um. First of all, they haven't. The
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Speaker 1: police have told us that because of physical evidence they
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Speaker 1: found in the makeshift grade, they believe this is chased
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Speaker 1: and they are pretty you know, they have told Stephanie that, well,
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Speaker 1: if they were listening to serious X and they would
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Speaker 1: know it was Chase because I told him so the
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Speaker 1: minute we found the body. Okay, it's Chase. But this
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Speaker 1: is the thing that do you believe they've got Daniel? What?
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Speaker 1: What is so fune? What the flashlight? A quick trip?
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Speaker 1: I d what do you think it is they've got
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Speaker 1: that they know it's him with no d N A
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Speaker 1: and O dental records that match? What well? First of all,
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Speaker 1: detective Twigs. When I arrived there, before they pull Chase
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Speaker 1: out of the makeshift grave, I asked a couple of questions,
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Speaker 1: some he would answer, something he wouldn't. I asked, was
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Speaker 1: Chase clothed? He said yes. I said, was his body
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Speaker 1: in tech? He said yes. I said, well, what is
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Speaker 1: there there? What is there that makes you, you know,
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Speaker 1: know that this is Chase? He would not comment on that.
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Speaker 1: Now we all have the picture. We've seen a picture
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Speaker 1: of Chase hours before that at the quick trip where
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Speaker 1: he had has the red hoodie on. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: maybe if he's clothed, maybe in that red hoodie. Um.
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Speaker 1: He also I believe in that picture had his wedding
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Speaker 1: ring on. Did he have the wet you know, the
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Speaker 1: wedding whing that there was talk early on that um
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Speaker 1: when they did the sonar before they did to dig
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Speaker 1: that there uh, there was a cell phone showed up.
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Speaker 1: But the cold case unit tells me that you can't
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Speaker 1: tell that from sonar. A sonar just tells irregular irregulars
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Speaker 1: in the soil it does. It's not like an X ray,
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Speaker 1: So it's anybody's guest. But I can tell you from
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Speaker 1: the way twigs looked at me detect the twigs looked
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Speaker 1: at me. He It's almost you know when somebody wants
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Speaker 1: you to guess something, but you won't guess. There is
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Speaker 1: something else. We just don't know what it is at
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Speaker 1: this point. And and the other thing is this, say,
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Speaker 1: if it wasn't overdose, I would think, and Mancy, you
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Speaker 1: would know better than me. I would think the whether
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Speaker 1: they're going to get a cause of death on an
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Speaker 1: overdose would depend on the condition of the body, wouldn't. Yes, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: if they can get any soft tissue um at all.
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Speaker 1: But maybe there's a way that you know, you as
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Speaker 1: a reporter and I as a lawyer, I don't know
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Speaker 1: how they're going to do it, but there's a way,
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Speaker 1: all many ways they can determine if it was for instance,
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Speaker 1: a stabbing or a gunshot wound. This is the other thing, Nancy. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So we were waiting, as you know, on the record,
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Speaker 1: Stephanie had taken his mother Chase. His mother had taken
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Speaker 1: in dental records from when he was eleven years old
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Speaker 1: to the medical examiner. Well, they came back and said
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Speaker 1: he was too young at the time. They're gonna have
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Speaker 1: to go ahead and order those from the d D
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Speaker 1: in the Department of Defense. Since Chase was a an
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Speaker 1: army veteran. Uh, they can get those. They said it
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Speaker 1: would take three days. They're gonna put a rush on them.
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Speaker 1: Those still have not come back. But Friday went ahead
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Speaker 1: and made the decision to arrest Brad Clement. At five o'clock,
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Speaker 1: I get off of the air. At noon, I got home,
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Speaker 1: and around four forty five I got a text from
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Speaker 1: my source closely the investigations saying that Brad Clement has
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Speaker 1: agreed to turn himself in and he is in the
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Speaker 1: process of turning himself in. He is being charged with
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Speaker 1: concealing a death. So I from home opened up the
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Speaker 1: newscast CBS forty six saying just that. Okay, but in
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Speaker 1: thirty more minutes I got a text from my same
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Speaker 1: source saying that he's on the run, and I could
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Speaker 1: not believe it. So I had to open up the
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Speaker 1: next newscast from home saying that he was on the run.
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Speaker 1: And what they told me, what that source told me
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Speaker 1: was that Brad's attorney was on the way to his
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Speaker 1: family's house to pick him up to take him to
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Speaker 1: the Cobb County jail and the family. Brad's family called
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Speaker 1: the attorney and said that he has decided to run.
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Speaker 1: And that's what happened. Right now, we believe that Brad
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Speaker 1: Clement is in a blue Honda Civic Georgia tag P
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Speaker 1: Peanut H Happy B Brother five seven two four to
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Speaker 1: all you truckers on the interstate Georgia tag P Peanut H.
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Speaker 1: Happy beat Brother five seven two four, blue Honda Civic.
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Speaker 1: Still no answer from the Medical Examiner's office as to
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Speaker 1: cause of death or not even telling us it is Chase,
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Speaker 1: but we know that it is Nancy. I have I
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Speaker 1: have more new information. Okay, hit me. As you know,
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Speaker 1: we all have Brad's number. You have it, I have it,
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Speaker 1: some members on Team Chase have it. I have called
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Speaker 1: Brad um and there's sometimes when his phone goes straight
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Speaker 1: to voicemail. There's other times when it just rings. I
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Speaker 1: have left tech text messages for him, and so I
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Speaker 1: would think, and I've heard that police or the fugitive
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Speaker 1: unit they're tracking that phone. That's what I've heard from
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Speaker 1: my source. But as I told you, Nancy, Brad is
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Speaker 1: a wizard, and I know this from my own experience,
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Speaker 1: he is a wizard with a cell phone. He can
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Speaker 1: he can likely make your phone paying in China somewhere
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Speaker 1: you're sitting, you know, in Georgia. So I don't think
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Speaker 1: they're taking much stock in that phone, because who knows
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Speaker 1: a friend could have that phone. The other thing is
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Speaker 1: this I called Brad's mother after Brad took a run
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Speaker 1: for it, and I have spent time over his mother's house.
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Speaker 1: Our relationship right away wasn't the best because of course
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Speaker 1: I'm a reporter and you know I'm over there. And
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Speaker 1: she basically said early on that Brad, every time you
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Speaker 1: try to help with this thing, you know, it backfires
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Speaker 1: on you. Brad said at that time, no, Daniel, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna I want to talk to you because I want
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Speaker 1: to clear my name. So the weeks following that, Brad's
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Speaker 1: mother warmed up to me when I called her the
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Speaker 1: other day after Brad went missing or he was on
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Speaker 1: the run. She told me that she believes that Brad
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Speaker 1: is innocent, and she said the reason that she believed
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Speaker 1: that he's innocent is because he cooperated with police for
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Speaker 1: three years. I asked him whether she thought he was suicidal.
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Speaker 1: She says, I don't know. She says, please pray for
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Speaker 1: my family, and she rushed me off the phone. She
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Speaker 1: was very nice, but she, you know, kind of ended
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Speaker 1: the call and she has not um answered since. Let
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Speaker 1: me give the tip line everybody for finding Brad Clement
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Speaker 1: with our search finding Chase Masner has now sadly turned
22:12
Speaker 1: to justice for Chase. Only one person knows what happened
22:18
Speaker 1: to Chase Masner, and that person is Brad Clement. Take
22:21
Speaker 1: a listen, why do you think everybody's point to figure
22:25
Speaker 1: at you? Because I'm the person that nobody knows and
22:29
Speaker 1: I'm just like that odd piece and his disappearance doesn't
22:36
Speaker 1: make sense, But in a way it does. If he
22:40
Speaker 1: kept telling people who's to leave and get live in
22:43
Speaker 1: the woods. Are you sure about that? Yeah? That was
22:46
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's well known to you. I'm pretty sure.
22:49
Speaker 1: I mean that he said that. I think his mom,
22:51
Speaker 1: who knows that with me is Chase Masner wife, Amanda's mom,
22:55
Speaker 1: Trey Morgan, you were telling us about us Pacific conversation
23:01
Speaker 1: you had, Trey, Yes, I organized a UM search in
23:04
Speaker 1: June two thousand and fourteen. It was actually one of
23:07
Speaker 1: the first major searches done. UM and I contacted Piedemont
23:11
Speaker 1: Search and Rescue and I got to daver dogs out there. UM.
23:15
Speaker 1: We covered a very very very wide range. And actually
23:18
Speaker 1: Bill Hillsman is the person of the contact with the dogs. UM.
23:22
Speaker 1: Bill and I went out the day before the search.
23:24
Speaker 1: I believe it was June fourteen. He and I went
23:26
Speaker 1: out the day before the search by ourselves so that
23:28
Speaker 1: the dogs would not be interrupted by people petting them
23:30
Speaker 1: in and foot so so what so forth. UM, we
23:35
Speaker 1: searched all that area and then the next day we
23:37
Speaker 1: went to Brad's neighborhood and we we went on his property.
23:41
Speaker 1: Brad was out front and we talked to him and
23:43
Speaker 1: we asked his permission if we could take the dogs
23:46
Speaker 1: on his property. And Brad is a very charismatic liar,
23:51
Speaker 1: that's my identity for him. UM. He said, oh sure, sure,
23:55
Speaker 1: you know, be my guest. You can take them all
23:57
Speaker 1: over the front y artists you want to, and you
23:59
Speaker 1: can take them all on the sense of the backyard.
24:03
Speaker 1: And I asked him why, what was the problem, and
24:04
Speaker 1: he said he would not let us into the backyard
24:08
Speaker 1: and not let us around the concrete party at all.
24:10
Speaker 1: And he told us the reason he blamed it on
24:13
Speaker 1: it was because he had just had a literally small puppies,
24:15
Speaker 1: that he kept the puppies back there on the concrete
24:17
Speaker 1: padding and that he didn't want any other dogs around
24:20
Speaker 1: that area. Um, it breaks my heart down. The thing
24:23
Speaker 1: that we were out there that soon and that he
24:27
Speaker 1: felt us from doing that. Well, that is the kind
24:29
Speaker 1: of evidence that's going to come in at trial. I
24:31
Speaker 1: can guarantee you that if it goes that far, because
24:34
Speaker 1: that shows such such a nefarious intent. It was not.
24:41
Speaker 1: He's very good at speaking, and he just he's so
24:44
Speaker 1: likable and and he's so sweet, and he was so
24:48
Speaker 1: appealing to us until he until he he until me
24:52
Speaker 1: mentioned the backyard, very just very want oh, I want
24:54
Speaker 1: to help, and he even said if there's anything I
24:56
Speaker 1: can do and it And what kills me right now
24:59
Speaker 1: is the thing that you know what you say, you
25:01
Speaker 1: do anything to help find Shase. Why weren't you a
25:03
Speaker 1: part of the sirs. Why weren't you there because you
25:05
Speaker 1: already knew it was a waste of time. He already knew, Tray,
25:10
Speaker 1: It hurts me so much to hear you crying, and
25:14
Speaker 1: I know, I know that in your mind you and
25:18
Speaker 1: Amanda had said, Okay, he's gotta be he's gotta be gone,
25:22
Speaker 1: he's got to be passed on. But still there's always
25:26
Speaker 1: always that flicker of hope that somehow, some way he'd
25:32
Speaker 1: find his way back home to his wife and his
25:34
Speaker 1: two little girls. I'm just I'm just sick about it. Right.
25:40
Speaker 1: So I work with I work with a homeless a lot,
25:42
Speaker 1: and I haven't that's kind of my heart and the
25:44
Speaker 1: charity the home homeless and the elderly, and I was
25:47
Speaker 1: just really in the back of my mind it was brilliant,
25:49
Speaker 1: like someone like I heard someone else say that maybe
25:52
Speaker 1: he would end up and you know, homeless on veteran
25:54
Speaker 1: in the streets in the city somewhere, and we would
25:56
Speaker 1: find him some day. But then I know that he
26:00
Speaker 1: would leave. We are now joining the search for the
26:04
Speaker 1: man that does have the answers, and that man is
26:06
Speaker 1: Brad Clement. Now on the run. There's a bolow be
26:10
Speaker 1: on the lookout for Brad Clement, believed to be driving
26:12
Speaker 1: a blue Honda. Now what one thing. Let me go
26:16
Speaker 1: to Lee Egan with Crime online dot Com, who has
26:20
Speaker 1: been on the search as well. Lee, Why did dogs
26:25
Speaker 1: finally end up in Brad Clement's backyard? How did that happen?
26:30
Speaker 1: Who orchestrated that? What happened was some of the ladies
26:34
Speaker 1: from Team Chase and I believe Daniel with CBS. They
26:38
Speaker 1: organized it um with Tracy Sargeant, she's the one with
26:41
Speaker 1: the dogs. But they had to get permission first from
26:44
Speaker 1: the cold case unit who had the case. Cold case.
26:46
Speaker 1: Given permission, they went out there and they got the hit. Okay,
26:49
Speaker 1: go through that very slowly, tell me that one more timely, egan. Okay,
26:53
Speaker 1: So the Team Chase ladies, they've been pressing to search
26:57
Speaker 1: Brad's backyard for a long time. When the case was
27:00
Speaker 1: transferred over to the cop County Cold Case Unit, that's
27:03
Speaker 1: when they got their break. That's when they finally got permission.
27:06
Speaker 1: Because Tracy Sergeant wasn't gonna let her dog search without
27:10
Speaker 1: permission from law enforcement, they gave her permission and it
27:13
Speaker 1: was at that point that they finally got in that backyard. Um.
27:17
Speaker 1: And then right away there was two different dogs on
27:19
Speaker 1: two separate occasions, hit on the exact same spot by
27:24
Speaker 1: that concrete slab. And then with that they were able
27:27
Speaker 1: to obtain a warrant um and then search and did
27:30
Speaker 1: you know that is amazing to me, Lee Egan from
27:32
Speaker 1: Crime Online, because if it hadn't been for this group
27:36
Speaker 1: banded together to help find Chase, we wouldn't know his
27:42
Speaker 1: location even now, it would be another three years or
27:45
Speaker 1: it maybe never that. And I don't understand why cops
27:50
Speaker 1: didn't do this to start with. You know, joining me
27:53
Speaker 1: is Kim Harris, Kim, what do you make of the
27:57
Speaker 1: fact that every step of the way was like in
28:00
Speaker 1: teeth to get cops interested that they really believe Chase
28:03
Speaker 1: just walked out on his whole life. It was, It
28:07
Speaker 1: was very difficult in the beginning. We we did a lot.
28:11
Speaker 1: I know that Cob County had some other very high
28:13
Speaker 1: profile cases around the same time. Um justin Ross Harris
28:18
Speaker 1: case happened right at the same time, which is a
28:20
Speaker 1: very high profile case in Cobb County, and it was
28:23
Speaker 1: unfortunate that it happened at the same time. And then
28:25
Speaker 1: there were other circumstances that all of us believe kind
28:29
Speaker 1: of came into place. But it's it's unfortunate. Wait wait, wait, wait, wait,
28:32
Speaker 1: are you are you talking about um Baby Cooper? In
28:35
Speaker 1: that case? That case was huge. That's true. But every
28:38
Speaker 1: person in the d a's office and the police office,
28:41
Speaker 1: police department was not working on that case. There were
28:44
Speaker 1: cases being tried and cases being investigated every day of
28:49
Speaker 1: the week seven three sixty five during the Coop Baby
28:53
Speaker 1: Cooper case. I can promise you that so as I
28:57
Speaker 1: don't understand that mm hm, that was her exist. It
29:01
Speaker 1: was brought up to us that that case was was
29:03
Speaker 1: going on at that time, and it took a lot
29:05
Speaker 1: of the investigators away from the office. Okay, the other thing,
29:09
Speaker 1: the other thing though, this is Daniel Kerston, CBS fort six, Atlanta.
29:12
Speaker 1: The other thing was and you know, Stephanie, this has
29:14
Speaker 1: been one of her concerns that at first they said that,
29:17
Speaker 1: you know, Chase was grown, he could you know, leave
29:19
Speaker 1: out if he wanted to and get lost if he
29:21
Speaker 1: wanted to. And so there were hours that were in,
29:26
Speaker 1: days and weeks that were lost where critical evidence. Because
29:30
Speaker 1: of my investigation I've been covering, a lot of evidence
29:33
Speaker 1: was not um Oh, Daniel Wilkerson talent man, I mean,
29:38
Speaker 1: nobody illumine all the place. Nobody looked for blood spatter,
29:41
Speaker 1: nobody looked for DNA on pillows like saliva. Nothing, nothing,
29:47
Speaker 1: Nobody searched the bathroom drains, nothing where you would have
29:51
Speaker 1: expect to found blood, even the ceilings for throwback, nothing
29:55
Speaker 1: was done and now it's too late to recreate that.
29:58
Speaker 1: They could tear the house down, probably not find anything,
30:01
Speaker 1: and if they could find anything, the time period has
30:04
Speaker 1: all but ruined any potential DNA evidence. Um, you're right.
30:09
Speaker 1: What do police have to say about that, Daniel Wilkerson?
30:12
Speaker 1: They will not say anything. And let's and I want
30:14
Speaker 1: to make to you know, make sure that listeners know
30:17
Speaker 1: the Cobb County Police Department had this for three years.
30:20
Speaker 1: Christopher Twiggs, who I've heard is a very good UM detective,
30:25
Speaker 1: he came into it late in the game and he
30:27
Speaker 1: was the most help probably out of all of them.
30:30
Speaker 1: But he was not on it during those initial hours.
30:33
Speaker 1: And then three years later, recently the Cobb County d
30:37
Speaker 1: a's Cold case unit got it and they saw helpful
30:41
Speaker 1: of the case. I would say, along with Team Chase.
30:43
Speaker 1: They solved it in a matter of I don't know,
30:45
Speaker 1: probably less than four months. But it was Team Chase
30:47
Speaker 1: who pushed bringing the dogs out right, not the cops. Yes, okay,
30:52
Speaker 1: let's talk about Brad Clements on the run take a
30:55
Speaker 1: listen to Brad Clement and what he had to say.
30:59
Speaker 1: I remember this like it was yesterday when Daniel and
31:02
Speaker 1: I arranged a meeting between Brad Clement, the man now
31:07
Speaker 1: suspected in the homicide of Chase Masner, met Chase's mother. Listen, Stephanie,
31:15
Speaker 1: what you've been waiting for? Brad the last person that,
31:20
Speaker 1: as of right now we know saw Chase alive. And
31:25
Speaker 1: I know you've got a lot of questions hit it,
31:30
Speaker 1: but what was the last thing Chase said to you? When?
31:34
Speaker 1: When was the last time you talked to him? Oh,
31:36
Speaker 1: last time I talked to him. I mean we're just
31:39
Speaker 1: talking about him and amanded pretty much, and uh, you
31:42
Speaker 1: know it was the exact words. I can't you know,
31:47
Speaker 1: I can't remember because I mean we're pretty much just
31:49
Speaker 1: having a good time like that was, you know, he'd
31:52
Speaker 1: come over and we were just you know, again, I
31:57
Speaker 1: pretty much reiterated the fact that he was a lucky
31:59
Speaker 1: guy to have, if you know, a wife and two
32:01
Speaker 1: little girls that loved him. And I mean that's all
32:04
Speaker 1: I would ever really tell him about that. Like, we
32:07
Speaker 1: never got really into depth of, you know, how they
32:10
Speaker 1: were fighting or what they were fighting over. I think
32:13
Speaker 1: he mainly just wanted to kind of, you know, upbreak
32:16
Speaker 1: from her, and you know that was what do you
32:20
Speaker 1: think they were fighting around. I mean I think it
32:23
Speaker 1: was about him working and then her not working, and
32:27
Speaker 1: you know basically you know her you know, wanting more
32:31
Speaker 1: money or something. And then you know he was mad
32:35
Speaker 1: at her because she wasn't working and you know, he
32:38
Speaker 1: was working in his butt off like a quick trip
32:40
Speaker 1: all the time. And I think she was about to
32:42
Speaker 1: get a job. She had just gotten a job, right,
32:44
Speaker 1: and um, you know that's really I mean, the the
32:52
Speaker 1: the extent of like kind of what we talked about
32:54
Speaker 1: with them. I mean, it it seemed that you know,
32:58
Speaker 1: that wasn't that really wasn't like why he wanted to
33:02
Speaker 1: come hang out with me. I think it was more
33:04
Speaker 1: or less just to get away from her, you know,
33:06
Speaker 1: just to kind of have a break from her. But
33:08
Speaker 1: I mean whatever he said about like going to sleep
33:12
Speaker 1: in the wood and stuff like that, like, I never
33:14
Speaker 1: I never really believed him. You know, I thought, did
33:16
Speaker 1: he actually say that to you? Yeah, he actually said that,
33:18
Speaker 1: But it was more like he told her that, you know,
33:21
Speaker 1: whether than it wasn't like telling me that, you know,
33:23
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go sleep in the woods. He's like I
33:25
Speaker 1: told her I was gonna go sleep in the woods,
33:27
Speaker 1: you know, as you know, just to kind of and
33:29
Speaker 1: he ever actually done that before. And I mean that
33:33
Speaker 1: that I think he was just telling her that just
33:35
Speaker 1: to kind of get her to you know, just scared,
33:39
Speaker 1: you know, or you know, try to get her to
33:41
Speaker 1: listen more. And you know, I never all the PTSD
33:45
Speaker 1: stuff for the bipolar nous. I never saw that him.
33:48
Speaker 1: Like he was always really happy around me and you know,
33:50
Speaker 1: really cheerful guy, like he was fun to be around.
33:53
Speaker 1: Like I mean, he was a nice guy. Like That's
33:55
Speaker 1: why I was, you know, all about helping him out
33:58
Speaker 1: the best I could. Like, I mean, he never never
34:01
Speaker 1: seemed like the suicidal type or anything like that. Like
34:04
Speaker 1: I never saw that part of him at all. And uh,
34:07
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't that side of Yeah, I mean
34:10
Speaker 1: he seemed like I mean I just remember like his
34:12
Speaker 1: ring tone from being over my house that day was
34:16
Speaker 1: the Farrelle song where it's like I'm happy, you know,
34:19
Speaker 1: his ring tone and everything, and like you know, he
34:21
Speaker 1: would like you know, dance to it, and he was
34:23
Speaker 1: really happy guy like I was. Yeah, and like I
34:27
Speaker 1: never saw this you know, bipolar, you know, crazy meaning
34:32
Speaker 1: that Amanda would kind of paint to me about it,
34:35
Speaker 1: you know, from the couple of times I talked to her,
34:38
Speaker 1: like the twenty years before that I raised him before
34:41
Speaker 1: join the army. I never saw it either. Yeah, I mean,
34:44
Speaker 1: and like I said, I didn't really know him that long,
34:47
Speaker 1: but I never I never saw that, you know, that
34:51
Speaker 1: dark side of him that people say or you know,
34:53
Speaker 1: just from the talk on Facebook and all that, like.
34:57
Speaker 1: And that's that's another thing that know, just bothered me
35:01
Speaker 1: about this whole thing, was that it was you know,
35:06
Speaker 1: I never saw any of the stuff that that you
35:08
Speaker 1: know of him, you know, being you know crazy to
35:12
Speaker 1: Amanda or whatnot, or the stuff that she says, you
35:15
Speaker 1: know about them fighting. What does she say that he did?
35:18
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just what it's I mean, what
35:21
Speaker 1: does she say just you know about screaming in front
35:25
Speaker 1: of the kids and stuff like that, and that's pretty
35:27
Speaker 1: much you know what she just should put him out
35:30
Speaker 1: of the car. Yeah, But they started arguing about um
35:34
Speaker 1: something and then he would start screaming in front of
35:36
Speaker 1: the kids, and then she would make him get out
35:37
Speaker 1: of the car to stop yelling. In front of the
35:39
Speaker 1: girls pretty much. And I mean, I guess that's that
35:43
Speaker 1: night she dropped him off at that Quick Trip that um,
35:46
Speaker 1: they were screaming and yelling in front of the kids.
35:49
Speaker 1: But when I picked him up, he was inside the
35:51
Speaker 1: Quick Trip, you know, already kind of you know, being Chase,
35:54
Speaker 1: funny guy. Like you know the picture that it looks
35:57
Speaker 1: like he's like really messed up on drugs that you
36:00
Speaker 1: see on Facebook, Like he was just what were the
36:02
Speaker 1: two drinks? They was holding energy drinks and he was
36:06
Speaker 1: just messing around, like just being a funny guy. You know.
36:08
Speaker 1: That was Chase. You know, he was, you know, if anything,
36:11
Speaker 1: just you know, laid back guy. There was, you know,
36:14
Speaker 1: a smoker, you know, just chill and that's I was
36:17
Speaker 1: kind of just some of the you know, I enjoyed
36:22
Speaker 1: being around him. I thought he was a cool guy,
36:24
Speaker 1: you know. And that's happened that day. So you picked
36:27
Speaker 1: him up that night at Quick Trip because you got
36:30
Speaker 1: a call to come get him. And where did you
36:33
Speaker 1: guys got Just my house And that wasn't very far away.
36:37
Speaker 1: I mean you could walk there from the Quick Trip
36:38
Speaker 1: and when you got home to your place that was
36:41
Speaker 1: like a four bedroom something something hum and you stood
36:45
Speaker 1: up all night putting a computer together. And what was
36:48
Speaker 1: he doing? Just you know, talking like he loved I mean,
36:51
Speaker 1: he was sitting there talking to me about stuff and
36:53
Speaker 1: like we were just you know, he wanted to um.
36:56
Speaker 1: He asked me about getting some of the uh, the
37:00
Speaker 1: paint hills, the things or whatnot. And I guess him
37:02
Speaker 1: and Amanda had had been you know, getting gotten from
37:05
Speaker 1: Alan before the UM. What are they the Roxley contents? Yeah,
37:10
Speaker 1: that's what I was telling you earlier. But you know
37:12
Speaker 1: I told him, you know, from my experience with that
37:14
Speaker 1: stuff that you know, stuffs to the devil. Our focus
37:19
Speaker 1: has turned now and this is a day we hoped
37:22
Speaker 1: would never come. From finding Chase Masner to justice for
37:26
Speaker 1: Chase Master and part of that is bringing in the
37:29
Speaker 1: man we now think responsible for Chase's death. Was it
37:35
Speaker 1: an accidental death? Was it something else? Only one person knows,
37:40
Speaker 1: and that person is Chase Masner's so called friend, Brad Clement.
37:45
Speaker 1: Joining me right now from Team Chase is Sherry high
37:48
Speaker 1: Shary Way in. I just really think that he needs
37:51
Speaker 1: to see the right thing. Come give this mom what
37:55
Speaker 1: she needs her answers. And if you're not guilty. Run. Well,
38:00
Speaker 1: it's going to come into evidence and there's no doubt
38:04
Speaker 1: about that. Daniel Wilkerson, if this ever does go to trial,
38:07
Speaker 1: that he fled now under the law, flight in some
38:12
Speaker 1: jurisdictions can be regarded as in disha of guilt, because
38:19
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you, Daniel, but when
38:21
Speaker 1: I see a cop come up behind me on the interstate,
38:23
Speaker 1: I might tap the brakes a little bit, but I
38:25
Speaker 1: don't take off m P A S to try to
38:27
Speaker 1: get away. I'm not fleeing anything. So the fact that
38:31
Speaker 1: he went on the run will be noted by a jury. Um,
38:36
Speaker 1: you say that police have told you or your sources
38:40
Speaker 1: have told you that they have an idea where Brad
38:44
Speaker 1: Clement is and where would that be, Daniel, They do
38:48
Speaker 1: not want that release just yet. Um. They did tell
38:51
Speaker 1: me off the record, but they don't know what he's
38:54
Speaker 1: listening to, what sources he has. They did tell me
38:58
Speaker 1: that they believe that he is moving. Long what do
39:00
Speaker 1: we know about him? What do we really know with
39:03
Speaker 1: me as Amanda's mother, Trey Morgan Trey, what does Amanda
39:09
Speaker 1: really know about Brad Clement? Amanda didn't really even know
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Speaker 1: him before all of this started. I mean that this
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Speaker 1: was just someone that Jase had met a quick trip,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure that Brad had come in there several
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Speaker 1: times because of course that's the last door on the
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Speaker 1: way and once you turn on his road to go
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Speaker 1: to listen to his neighborhood. Um, this was very, very
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Speaker 1: There was no friendship here like with Amanda and Brad
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Speaker 1: um and and all that. They just got thrown in
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Speaker 1: together when all of this happened. And for him to
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Speaker 1: just blatantly lie to Amanda and to Stephanie is just
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Speaker 1: right prehensible. It's just insane. How someone can do that
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Speaker 1: is that that's a psychopath. And you know they said
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer was sweet as well. Well, this guy is
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Speaker 1: really nice, and you know, I'm so angry right now.
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Speaker 1: You know what, You're right about that, Tray Morgan. You're
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Speaker 1: right because when Daniel and I um found him and
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Speaker 1: that flop bows he was in, we went in there
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Speaker 1: and he was completely different Daniel than what I had expected.
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Speaker 1: Daniel will Krison joining me from Channel and he was
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Speaker 1: likable and laid back. He tried to get us to
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Speaker 1: leave so he could take a share. I'm like, oh no,
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Speaker 1: We're fine, I'll sit right here, no, no problem. But
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Speaker 1: the demeanor he had belied the possibility he was a
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Speaker 1: killer because he let us in. He would talk as
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Speaker 1: long as we wanted to talk. And but did you
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Speaker 1: notice Daniel right after that he quit his job and
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Speaker 1: left town. Remember that, And don't forget Nancy. We took
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Speaker 1: bread with us to meet Stephanie. What really breaks my heart,
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Speaker 1: Trey Morgan, is if you had seen Stephanie. And I've
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Speaker 1: got it when I'm looking back on it, it's so apparent.
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Speaker 1: There was just this real you guys, remember this, this real,
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Speaker 1: weird feeling, this awkwardness. Something's not right. You know that
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Speaker 1: you get when something is just wrong. When she Stephanie Chase,
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Speaker 1: his mom wanted to ask Brad, like what happened? Oh
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Speaker 1: oh no, I'm remembering, guys. Do you remember what she
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Speaker 1: asked Brad? She said, did he say anything about me?
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Speaker 1: Did he mention me? Oh? Man, I just remember that
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Speaker 1: because it just wasn't making sense in her mind that
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Speaker 1: her baby boy would just leave her, that loved her
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Speaker 1: so much, that texted her all the time, that came
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Speaker 1: over and spent the night. She was and Brad kind
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Speaker 1: of like, remember Brad kind of clammed up when she
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Speaker 1: went to hug him to just try to find anything.
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Speaker 1: There was something like oil and water. It just was
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Speaker 1: not the the empathy on Brad's part that you would
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Speaker 1: go up to this woman. I mean when we I
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Speaker 1: met her for the first time, I just wanted to
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Speaker 1: hug her and try to come soular But he was very,
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Speaker 1: very awkward. Do you guys remember that or is it
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Speaker 1: just me? Yes, no, I remember? Do you guys remember
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Speaker 1: we played the video of Chase talking to his little girls,
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Speaker 1: and everybody in the room was tearing up and crying
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Speaker 1: listening to this. And I look over at Brad and
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Speaker 1: he's in his own little world like he didn't care,
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Speaker 1: you know, just twiddling his thumbs, looking away, just absolutely
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Speaker 1: no emotion whatsoever. Daniel Wilkerson, Channel forty six. You have
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Speaker 1: a statement from Stephanie. I wanted to know if she
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Speaker 1: had given any thought to how she would keep Chase's
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Speaker 1: memory alive, and she responded that she said it will
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Speaker 1: be um Chase's humor and how he viewed life. She
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Speaker 1: says he was the most amazing person that made everyone
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Speaker 1: smile always and he will continue to do so forever.
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Speaker 1: That's what she said. Guys, it just seems that everything
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Speaker 1: is a hurdle to be crossed in this case. But
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you something, and Daniel you probably know
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Speaker 1: this too. It's like this. In every criminal investigation, nothing
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Speaker 1: is ever easy. That's why you pay cops and pay
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Speaker 1: investigators to beat the streets and find the answers. And
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Speaker 1: I just cannot commend Team Chase, Daniel Tray, everyone that
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Speaker 1: has worked this case and put so much time and
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Speaker 1: energy into it. I gotta tell you something. It just
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Speaker 1: it just breaks my heart because you know what, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna be with my children. I'm gonna be with my husband,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be with my mom. They will never
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Speaker 1: have that again. They will never have it. You'll see, Daniel,
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Speaker 1: You'll see when you have a baby, you think you
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Speaker 1: know about love, you think you know about happiness. That's
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Speaker 1: just what I thought. M m mmmmm. I was just
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Speaker 1: dumb and happy. Everything changes when you have those children.
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Speaker 1: Is just it's a love like nothing I have ever
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Speaker 1: now on this earth. And to think what has been
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Speaker 1: done to not just Stephanie, his mother, but to his
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Speaker 1: children who will never have their dad. I'm just Trey
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Speaker 1: Morgan doing his girls even understand what's happening. Sorry, I
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Speaker 1: was crying, said, um, um, that's one of the reasons
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Speaker 1: I'm really angry as well, is because he took their
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Speaker 1: daddy away from them, and um, it's how do you
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Speaker 1: handle a situation where your little four year old granddaughter
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Speaker 1: is laying in your lap crying because she missed her
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Speaker 1: daddy and she doesn't know where he is. And we've
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Speaker 1: had a long road and the girls they have no
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Speaker 1: idea what they're going to miss out on because of
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Speaker 1: Bradman and this chase. He loves being there. Daddy absolutely
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Speaker 1: loved it. He was a wonderful father and they were
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Speaker 1: very close. And poor little Addie she was just when
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Speaker 1: she's never ever gonna know that be in it, and
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Speaker 1: it really breaks my heart. He took something very precious
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Speaker 1: away from all of us, you know. Try. I was
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Speaker 1: just talking to my little girl Lucy today and she says, Mommy,
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Speaker 1: what what was you seem sad today? And I said,
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Speaker 1: you know what, little girl, I'm just missing my dad
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Speaker 1: so much today. I cannot even imagine, you know, at
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Speaker 1: least I had him, at least I had him for
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Speaker 1: many many years. I can't even imagine what my wife
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Speaker 1: would be like if I never got to be with
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Speaker 1: my dad. We lost Amanda's daughthern when when she was
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Speaker 1: ten years old the cancer, and now she has got
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Speaker 1: to get through the same thing I did. Well, if
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Speaker 1: this is any consolation, please tell Amanda we have prayed
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Speaker 1: and prayed and prayed. No, this is not the answer
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Speaker 1: she wanted. I know it's not. It's not the answer
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Speaker 1: any of us wanted. But I can tell you this.
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Speaker 1: We're staying on it until we bring Brad Clement back.
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Stories signing off, Goodbye friend. H