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Trump-Backed Rep. Andy Ogles LOSES primary · DEEP INSIGHT

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  Speaker 1: Two term Republican Congressman Andy Ogles, a member of the
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  Speaker 1: Conservative Freedom Caucus who had the backing of President Trump,
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  Speaker 1: lost his primary race to Charlie Hatcher, a former state
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  Speaker 1: agriculture commissioner. Ogles was running in a new congressional district
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  Speaker 1: after Republicans redrew state lines earlier this year. Ali Andy
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  Speaker 1: Ogles is a guy who, let's just say, always looked
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  Speaker 1: at a situation and wondered, what's the worst possible thing
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  Speaker 1: I could say about this complete fealty to President Trump
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  Speaker 1: and every statement he ever made. He said, Muslims don't
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  Speaker 1: belong in America, homosexuality has no place in America. We
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  Speaker 1: can go down the list, continue to deny that the
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty election was legitimate. There's so much there, and
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  Speaker 1: it appears like many of his Republican colleagues voters in
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee had seen enough.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wondered what's the worst thing you could say in
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  Speaker 2: this situation, and likely said the thing. One of the
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  Speaker 2: most MAGA aligned members in this House Republican conference and
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  Speaker 2: was backed by the President is the same person, in
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  Speaker 2: addition to all the controversial things that you just mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: is the person who tried to sponsor an amendment or
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  Speaker 2: rather a resolution that would allow the president to run
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  Speaker 2: for a third term. I mean, it does not get
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  Speaker 2: more MAGA and more Freedom Caucus than Andy Ogles. And
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  Speaker 2: yet in this new district that was redrawn at the
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  Speaker 2: behest of Republicans lost his primary And I think it's
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  Speaker 2: notable when you consider and at the end of primary
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  Speaker 2: season we'll be able to take a more holistic look
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  Speaker 2: of this of what the impact of being MAGA in
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  Speaker 2: the new maps looks like. But also being MAGA in
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  Speaker 2: a period of time where Trump is and he won't
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  Speaker 2: want to hear this, and Republicans might not want to
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  Speaker 2: hear this either. He will be a lame duck. And
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  Speaker 2: so what does the party do as it tries to
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  Speaker 2: navigate that post Trump period even as he is still
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  Speaker 2: in the Oval office? And so I think this is
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  Speaker 2: yet another reminder of the fact that there is a
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  Speaker 2: pretty heavy strain of resentment towards people currently serving in Washington.
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  Speaker 2: Something we track on the Democratic sides, something we track
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  Speaker 2: on the Republican side as well. This could be an
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  Speaker 2: outcome of that. In addition to the kind of lawmaker
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  Speaker 2: and elected official that Ogles has been on the public stage.
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  Speaker 1: And the Trump endorsement is not automatically when you were raised,
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  Speaker 1: as we saw in Tennessee last night. Meanwhile, two Republican
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  Speaker 1: mayors from deep red areas of Georgia are crossing party
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  Speaker 1: lines to endorse Democratic Senator John Offsoff. The mayors told
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  Speaker 1: the Atlanta Journal Constitution they decided to back offs Off
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  Speaker 1: in his Senate race because his work in their communities
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  Speaker 1: and push to increase federal resources outweighs any partisan loyalties
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  Speaker 1: they have. Imagine that both mayors represent some of the
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  Speaker 1: most conservative parts of Georgia. President Trump won both areas
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  Speaker 1: by double digits in twenty twenty four. Meanwhile, in Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: voters there expressing frustration with rising gas and energy prices
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  Speaker 1: driven up by the president's war in Iran. MS Now
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  Speaker 1: reporter Alex Tabitt spoke with some Trump voters in the
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  Speaker 1: northeastern part of Ohio. Is this how you expected the
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  Speaker 1: second Trump term to go?
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  Speaker 3: No, not at all. I hoped it was going to
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  Speaker 3: be so much better.
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  Speaker 2: He also promised no new foreign wars.
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  Speaker 4: We're obviously in this war in Iran, which is why
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  Speaker 4: we're seeing the grass prices so high.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of the president not keeping those
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  Speaker 1: campaign promises.
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  Speaker 2: He just told us what we wanted to hear to
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  Speaker 2: vote him back in.
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  Speaker 5: What would your message be to him about the economy
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  Speaker 5: right now, about prices, about day to day life.
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  Speaker 3: I would tell him, you promised us you would lower prices,
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  Speaker 3: bring back what it used to be. I was hoping
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  Speaker 3: that gas was going to go down so I could
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  Speaker 3: do something. You know, you can't do anything with gas prices,
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  Speaker 3: and you just can't. You can't afford to breathe at
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  Speaker 3: this point?
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  Speaker 2: Are you regretting your vote right now?
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  Speaker 1: I have that past two years?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I have.
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually not even voting the next time. Here a
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  Speaker 1: mother at a gas pump saying he can't afford to
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  Speaker 1: breathe anymore. Joining the conversation, Chief White House correspondent for
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  Speaker 1: The New York Times, Peter Baker, and ms NOW national
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  Speaker 1: affairs analyst John Howman. He's partner in chief Political Calmness
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  Speaker 1: at Puck Guy's. Good morning, Peter. Let me start with you.
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  Speaker 1: This is a president The White House tries to put
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  Speaker 1: him out there at an event in Las Vegas to
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  Speaker 1: talk about affordability, trying to emphasize some of the popular
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  Speaker 1: items like no tax on tips and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: But as always, that event just turns into a meandering
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  Speaker 1: campaign rally talking about his grievances, his enemies, and all
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  Speaker 1: of the rest of it. This is not a president
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  Speaker 1: who's ever going to be laser focused on affordability, because
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  Speaker 1: until the war with Iran comes to some kind of
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  Speaker 1: a conclusion, it feels pretty intractable for him, does it not.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it does. Look Affordability, he says, is
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  Speaker 5: a hoax. It's a made up democratic hoax, he likes
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  Speaker 5: to say. But look, yeah, I think the thinking in
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  Speaker 5: the White House is they recognize obviously that he he
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  Speaker 5: is down in the polls. That's a drag on the ticket.
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  Speaker 5: He told our friends at take Sureman a punch bowl
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  Speaker 5: that you know, him not being on the ticket this year,
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  Speaker 5: not being on the ballot this year, will hurt other Republicans.
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  Speaker 5: But the theory of the case is if he can
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  Speaker 5: get some sort of resolution of the Iran war, it
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  Speaker 5: almost didn't matter what. As long as he can say
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  Speaker 5: it's over and gas prices start to head back down,
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  Speaker 5: that people will think a little bit more kindly toward him.
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  Speaker 5: They'll be more willing to give them a second chance.
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  Speaker 5: But the voter you just showed who says I voted
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  Speaker 5: for him, I regret my vote, and I'm not going
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  Speaker 5: to vote this year. That's the real worry for Republicans.
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  Speaker 5: It's not that they think that Trump voters are going
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  Speaker 5: to suddenly become you know, Democrats or vote for you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'll say it and Michigan. They're just not going to
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  Speaker 5: show up, right, They're not going to be show up
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  Speaker 5: because they're upset about what's happened. They're not going to
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  Speaker 5: show up because Trump excites them, but maybe the rest
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  Speaker 5: of the party doesn't. That's the real worry is finding
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  Speaker 5: a way to motivate them. And that's why they're going
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  Speaker 5: to talk a lot about socialism and communist them and
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  Speaker 5: so forth, in order to try to give MAGA voters
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  Speaker 5: a reason to turn out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, John Howman, let's explore that a little further. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: they are they're attacking the usual cultural war issues. They
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  Speaker 4: are indeed trying to create a red scare in mixing
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  Speaker 4: up the terms communism and socialism. But the fundamentals are
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  Speaker 4: these elections, so in midterms in particular, are so often
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  Speaker 4: decided on on the economy, and it's not just that
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  Speaker 4: things haven't gotten better. Voters look at the White House
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  Speaker 4: and they see no effort being made from the President
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  Speaker 4: to either understand how they feel or to try to
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  Speaker 4: fix it. And in fact, his signature moves the Iran
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  Speaker 4: War tariffs is to name two, have only made their
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  Speaker 4: lives more expensive.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't overstate the importance of the point that
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  Speaker 6: Peter just made a second ago about this is. You know,
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  Speaker 6: if you want to talk to the language of strategists
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  Speaker 6: and polsters, you talk about enthusiasm and the enthusiasm gap.
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  Speaker 6: You look at what just to take the most recent example,
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  Speaker 6: what happened in those Michigan primaries on Tuesday where about
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  Speaker 6: a million Republicans voted and about a million and a
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  Speaker 6: half Democrats voted. That's, guys, that's my I'm I'm not
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  Speaker 6: like a mathematician, but that's that's a very wide gap
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  Speaker 6: between Democrats who wanted to get out and send cast
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  Speaker 6: to vote and Republicans who did. And that has been
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  Speaker 6: the part of the pattern that we've seen over the
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  Speaker 6: last eighteen months where Democrats turn out off the charts,
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  Speaker 6: Republicans turnout poor week and it's it's August. You know,
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  Speaker 6: the notion that and I understand Peter's reporting about what
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  Speaker 6: the theory of the cases in the White House is correct,
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  Speaker 6: but it's a delusional theory. You could end, you could
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  Speaker 6: open the straight up from moves and end the Iran
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  Speaker 6: war today, and gas prices are not gonna They will
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  Speaker 6: maybe go down on tiny a little bit. But the
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  Speaker 6: problem with inflation across the board, we have this global
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  Speaker 6: supply chain. It's going to take months for the disruptions
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  Speaker 6: from the war to work through the system. So you're
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  Speaker 6: going to be looking overall at high prices all the
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  Speaker 6: way through to November. There's not going to there's no
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  Speaker 6: going to turn that back. And I think that that
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  Speaker 6: in combination with what you heard in that in that
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  Speaker 6: piece from our reporter there, which is those voices are
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  Speaker 6: not unrepresentative what you can hear in all the fifty
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  Speaker 6: states from from from the vast majority of voters, which
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  Speaker 6: is the economy is terrible. They understand it's terrible. And
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  Speaker 6: when Donald Trump gets up and pretends and says that
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  Speaker 6: he's an A plus plus plus plus plus plus it's
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  Speaker 6: the greatest economy in the history of the world, they
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  Speaker 6: can see for themselves and feel in their lives how
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  Speaker 6: totally out of touch and completely unmotivated. He is to
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  Speaker 6: try to help them, and that is the kiss of
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  Speaker 6: death politically for the president of the president's party, which
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  Speaker 6: has no independent economic agenda aside from Trump's, and he
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  Speaker 6: has new economic agenda. This is it is, you know,
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  Speaker 6: just about as bad a set of circumstances as a
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  Speaker 6: in power party could have going into a interim election.