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Gatekeeping and Gatecrashing · That Car Show

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Speaking of gatekeeping. If you guys think people are
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funny about roads, wait till you get to events at car week.
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Boy, that is a whole shebang. This week on that car show, my
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M3 rises from the dead. It's back on track.
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We talk about Dinos and how people feel about them, and
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Ryan's going to explore the genesis of the family sedan.
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There's a serious debate about gatekeeping and we share what
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we're up to next. We're that car show.
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Thanks for joining us. You can cut that last part.
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Hey folks, and welcome to this week's episode of that car show.
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The gang is all back together this week.
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I think to increase the YouTube following we need to mention
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things like hardcore drugs. What else?
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What else do we need to mention to get that algorithm?
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Human trafficking, cartels. Car theft.
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AK-40 Sevens. Politics to get into politics.
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Yeah. And then maybe religion.
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So the the inside joke there is that we're on YouTube as well as
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obviously all the the different Spotify and Apple and everything
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else. But our YouTube channel kind of
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blew up because I think we have the name Cannabis in the title
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of the last last week's episode, so.
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That Brian's got a lot of friends.
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Yeah, yeah. Why not both?
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Maybe that's it. Good to have another crew show
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this week and good to see you folks.
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What have you guys been up to? I'm fresh off a track day.
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Today was. That the M3.
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Yes, it was back out on track for the first time in at least
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six years, but probably more. Yeah.
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So Performance, which is the driving school out at Pacific
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Raceways and they're in Kent, WA, but that's the local track
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for the Seattle area. They this was their 23rd year
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doing a women's track day and they call it women setting the
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pace. And so Don and Donna Kitsch run
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the school and their daughter Sienna is now in charge of
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marketing, I believe. And so they were running the
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event and they did a little kind of look back retrospective of
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the school and how they got started.
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And Donna said this was their 23rd year hosting.
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She said it took, you know, when they first started doing it,
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there were so few women participating that it was like a
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couple women and then the rest were men.
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And she said it took 10 years to get to the point where it was
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enough women for a full event dedicated just to women.
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But this year they had two full days, sold out both days.
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So. And it was like when I pulled
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into the paddock this morning, I went, oh, my gosh, it's busy,
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which is a good sign. So it was really fun.
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I was able to take the M3, which was really cool, you know, and
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thanks to my super amazing fiance, obviously, for all of
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his effort. We discovered tonight that the
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PPF that he finished taking off yesterday, which looked like it
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was a science experiment PPF, was put on the car in 1998.
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Oh my God, they had PPF in 1990? Eight well and so I have the
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original invoice because the original owner is the one that
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put it on and PPF wasn't a common thing like it is today in
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98 and and it was not even close to the full car and it was $450
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in 1998 that. Just sounds like a big roll of
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sellotape, isn't it you? Would think well and we
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discovered it was on the headlights too because they
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looked like they. Had just plastic.
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It looked like they had just clouded over and then he was
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like wait a minute this is PPF. Peeled it off and the headlights
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look good as new. Wow, he's a hell of a guy.
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I've got a couple of stalled projects around my place if you.
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Want to? I'll send him to Denver as soon
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as he's done here so expect him in like 3 years.
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Well, if you don't know this car was this car sat this was your
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old track car E36 awesome silver 4 door M3 and it had literally
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been sitting for how many years? I it was parked in 20/19/2019
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and then I have towed it with me as as I've moved in the
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intervening years wondering why I was dragging this giant
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automotive paperweight with me and like questioning.
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But thank goodness I did because it runs better than it ever has
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in my entire ownership. And it was really cool to be out
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on the track in it today because when I bought it, I was so
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determined that I had to find a 4 door so I could take people in
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it. And then then after that, I got
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into high performance driving and the car evolved into a track
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car. It now has no back seat.
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It has a half cage. So Needless to say, I'm not
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taking people in it, certainly not in the back seat.
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And it was really, really fun. It was fun to be out on the
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track period because it's been very sporadic for me in the last
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few years. And most recently it's been out
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at Big Willow. So it had been the last time I
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was out at Pacific. Donna and I were talking about
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it, I think it was 2020, 2 for another Women's Day.
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So it's been a few years since I've been out on track there.
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I've been at Willow in the meantime.
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But it was really cool because the driving line came back
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really easily, like the muscle memory.
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But I feel like I do like, for whatever reason, I now am able
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to feel the balance of the car better.
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Like that was always a struggle for me when I was learning
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because they'd say like, Oh yeah, you know, you'll feel it,
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you know, wait different ways or like you'll get, you know,
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information through your seat. And I could never feel it.
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And I think partly because the car was set up so stiffly.
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But I think driving the different Mustangs helped
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because they're heavier enough that it's gave me a sense for
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that. And so I think I picked up on
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what I should be feeling and I'm now I can find that in the M3.
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So that was really cool. And then just learning to trust
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the car again. And there was a little bit of
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like when I did the Defender event and we did the downhill,
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yeah, you have to take your foot off the brake and you're not
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breaking going down the hill, which is counterintuitive, sure,
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but it makes you trust the equipment.
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And so trusting, you know, when the braking zone ends, like
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trusting the car to take my foot off the brake.
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And just like, no, the car has the grip, you just have to trust
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it. So it was really cool.
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You got you. Went in a brand new Corvette.
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I don't know you folks have seen the video, but at Laguna Seca,
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OH. My gosh.
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The the brakes failed on the Corvette and at the Corkscrew
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and it just kept going. This is break by wire right?
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This is. So what went wrong?
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This was a. Discussion.
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A line of code. I mean, what had they been
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modified? I mean, you know, apparently
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because this wouldn't happen in a 30 year old E36 by the way,
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when the E36 get to be 30 years old.
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I don't. I don't know because I'm only
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35, so that math does. So what what's the consensus,
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sorry on the on the Corvette? Like what can you describe what
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happened? Because it was a very dramatic
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video. Yeah, so at the top of Laguna
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Seiko, it's you ascend up to the top of the hill of the track at
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the far back of the track. And then you get, you know, you
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come face to face with the Corkscrew right, Which is the
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very high gradient, you know, left turn, right turn that takes
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you down through part of the track, but at a a large
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elevation drop. So at this first corner, instead
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of turning left, you obviously break to to make the corner.
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The car kept going on, went through the the soundtrack or
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the the stone track and just completely fell apart.
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Luckily, the guy driving it walked away.
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Right. But it's not, you know, it's
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it's all trust in that car is gone.
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Yeah. Well, and he I think what was
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so, I mean, the video was so dramatic and obviously it looked
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like he was going to be seriously injured, if not more.
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But yeah, the entire right side of the car slammed into the tire
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wall like almost at speed because the like you said Dan,
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like the dirt didn't slow him down at all.
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And I think, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's the back
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straight going into the Corkscrew.
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So you've built up a lot of speed and then you need to
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brake. And so not only was he, did he
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not have brakes, but he had built up more speed than other
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portions of the track, I think. So it just exacerbated it.
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Yeah, you are going uphill before you hit the.
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So you do lose a little bit of speed, but I'm curious then.
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So now the PPF is gone, does that mean it's time to put a
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livery on that BMW? And I think our listeners should
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tell us what livery you should put on that car.
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Oh, I like that idea. Yeah, send in.
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Send in your submissions. I want to see and then we'll
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pick a winner. Keep it clean.
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If we're, if we're, if we're saying like anything's on the
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table. I am partial to the Mercedes
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that Tori and I saw that was covered in purple Muppet fur at
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Crystal Co in April. I mean.
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That's just going to mess with your arrow.
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Yeah, it's, it's not good. And we saw the day we saw it, it
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had been raining. And I'm like, oh, if that's ever
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an advertisement for don't cover your car with fur, yeah, 'cause
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it, it rains. Yeah, no, definitely, definitely
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considering like some M stripes or something at a minimum.
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But you know, I'm, I'm open to people's amazing ideas.
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So let's let's hear it. Yeah, there were quite a few
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famous BMW liveries, right? Yeah, things like Ozbeer and
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Hofmeister and. Do a car do a a Jackson Pollock
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or something right? Like an art car.
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Yeah, it'd be cool. I don't think they ever did an
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E30. 6:00 But that would be the. That's why it's clever.
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Yeah, I love it. No.
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I think he's juniors. I'm not saying he's.
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Not clever. Yeah, because it hasn't been
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done yet. Right.
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And maybe that's the plan. You went to art college?
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Yeah, that's. Right.
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Guys, I've got five more months of student loan payments and
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then I'm free. Woo Hoo.
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I'm 50 I'll be turning it's the day I turned 5th.
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But no, it'll actually I will have been 50 for a couple months
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when it's all said and. Done close enough, good enough
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for government work. So I think maybe, yeah, You
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know, I try to do like an art piece anytime I move.
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And so maybe this time the art piece is something that moves
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and that's the family art project.
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This summer we splatter the car or.
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Something like that. Has Banksy ever done a car?
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Could you do something like terribly ironic that, you know,
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with commentary on like the state of the world?
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Just tape a banana on the roof and see how long.
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You last. Yeah, then sell the pieces when
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you're right the. Shredder runs.
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Yeah, yeah. Speaking of shredded, how about
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that Nurburgring crash with the GT3RS and what was it it Was it
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an M3? M2.
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M2 Yeah. And people have been going back
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and forth about whose fault it was.
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I think the best sort of most tempered opinion I've heard on
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this is, is it Misha Choudrin who does the Nurburgring YouTube
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channel? Yeah.
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And, you know, basically said it, why does it have to be one
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person's fault, right? You know, it's a track day.
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So you have, you know, at least in the Nurburgring, you have St.
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rules, right? You know, if you get in a crash,
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it's investigated by the Pulitzi and all this.
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And so it wasn't one person, it wasn't the other.
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But yeah. And that's another one where I
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thought for sure there'd be a death.
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And I think. Yeah, it did not.
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I mean, and I've seen pictures of the guy in the 9/11, Yeah,
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and, and there was some and he didn't even have, he may have
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had a helmet, definitely didn't have a.
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No, I don't think he even had a helmet.
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I think that's is he didn't have a helmet, so definitely didn't
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have a Hans. Yeah.
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And his injuries for not having a helmet and as severe as that
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crash was, I mean, it's incredible.
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But yeah, I heard some, like some of Misha's kind of
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evaluation of it too. And one thing that I thought was
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interesting is he was talking about, and this goes for a lot
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of events and a lot of driving, you know, if you're the slower
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car, it's your responsibility to like, obviously not cut over in
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front of something and that kind of thing.
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And it looked like that might have happened with the M2.
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But like, to your point, Ryan, it's your job to just be aware.
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Like if you're on the track, like I always, I always joke
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that I excel at traffic management, but it's like
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joking, not joking. Because really I just try to be
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aware of where everybody is. And there was a little bit of a
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like something could have been tricky today where I think it
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was an honest miscommunication, but the person like interpreted
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that they were being pointed by when they weren't.
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And it was at a time where the other car was about to come over
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into where they were going to be.
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So like, ultimately it's everybody's responsibility.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So on a different note and a
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less probably less morbid note, Ryan, the last time I was on
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this podcast, you were trying to hunt down a specific car that
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you had promised, been promised for an article, and the car had
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disappeared. Yeah.
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Is there an update? Low so many weeks ago.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So this is a car, guys, I didn't even know existed.
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Do you know about the Genesis G90?
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Yes. Okay, I don't think I've ever
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seen one. I don't know.
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That you see that was it the GX-90, the SUV you see the
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smaller sedans now and again, but but this is their $90,000
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plus luxury sedan, right? So at least on paper it plays in
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the same you know space is like an S class or A7 series even if
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the price point is lower. This is actually I take it back.
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This is the one I just saw Lamont.
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They're they're pretty good looking, you know, and and and
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Genesis is killing it with these wheel doesn't yet.
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They're massive, right? They're my doc esque.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it, it looks like, it
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looks like it's an expensive car, right.
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And hopefully they'll drive like when I have driven the SUV, I've
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driven some of the smaller sedans, you know, but but but
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Genesis is, you know, I don't know if the styling is for
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everyone, but they're doing some cool things.
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I think they are at the top of the the wheel game right now.
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They're doing some like fractal inspired designs.
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But anyway, I wanted to get this for a week just to just to see
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what it's all about. I pitched an article that
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Autoblog tell me if this is clever or if it's just stupid.
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But the title Kennedy family dot dot dot sedan, because no one,
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no one shops sedans, right? No, no family in their right
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mind in 2025 is buying a sedan, right.
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And, but, but I, I think even here in Colorado where you know,
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everyone you know thinks they need an SUV or needs a
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crossover, I think it's a compelling case because it sure
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seems to be a hell, you know, a hell of a car, but it's been AI.
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Guess what I'm getting at is there, there aren't many.
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I think there's like 1 bouncing around in the press fleet and,
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you know, right, if I wanted an SUV, you know, would have had
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one the next day. But I, I want to be, I guess,
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contrarian and, and try the sedan and, and so I get one week
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after next to spend the week with it.
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I'm really excited. That's amazing because I, yeah,
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it's been a while since I've been in like a luxury sedan,
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right? Of any ilk.
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Yeah. And we've had this conversation
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before. Like what, you know what, what
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constitutes luxury in 2025, right?
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You know, it used to be, you know, build quality, right?
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And then I think it was materials and then it was tech.
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Well, now everything is built well, everything has decent
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materials and and and everything has tech, right?
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So where does that leave this car?
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So I'm excited about it. Thank you, Genesis.
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I know it's been a lot of doing to get this and it hasn't
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happened yet, but I'm excited. This is why this job is good
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guys, right? This is this, this thing we do
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has its perks because basically I'm giving this car for a week
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and basically told to take it, you know, take your family on
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vacation, right? I I still don't think we'll eat
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in it much like our own vehicles, but it'll it'll be
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fun. Do you know anything about this
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car? I mean what?
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Outside of seeing it and being, you know, very confused because
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it looked so my Bach esque, it has.
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Such a present, yeah. Like, yeah, like I saw it.
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It was out. There were three of them in the
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parking lot. Like the field in Lamont where?
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You are wondering Ryan's getting one of those 3.
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They're like it has been awesome.
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Myers makes plane right now. But it, you know, like we saw it
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from a distance and went, we have to go see what that is.
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Yeah, we had to get up close. So it definitely, like, has a
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presence. The design, like, was intriguing
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enough when we were like, wait a minute, like, yeah, because it's
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massive. But we knew it wasn't anything
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we'd ever seen before. No.
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And you just, again, you never see them.
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We were talking with their buddy Michael Osasso, who's been on
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the show before, before this episode, and we were talking
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about the Hummer HUV. I'm sorry, Evie rather.
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And you know, when is the last time you saw one of those?
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We had one at car week last last year and and car week is coming
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up again and I I think I've maybe seen two or three in the
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the year. That's, you know, years since,
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but I'm seeing. A lot of those up here all of a
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sudden. Up in Seattle, Yeah, Yeah.
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Well. Leaf stools.
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I don't know. Yeah, so.
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Well, I'm, I'm excited about this thing.
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You know again, I've not been in a luxury sedan like that of that
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size right of that bulk in a long time.
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It'll be very interesting. I think the design, the exterior
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design is a little discombobulated, but we'll see
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we'll see what it looks like in person and hell, after seeing
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that new Bentley sedan, this thing looks like Miss America.
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So I was it was it Lieberman that posted the two cars, posted
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a a a poll about the was it the, what was the concept?
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Was it the 1000 over the beautiful Bentley sedan that was
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kind of like a hyper exaggerated version of the current sedan?
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And then there is this new thing which looks a bit like Jaguar,
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the thing that they came. Yeah, yeah.
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It's now like a reflex. It's not.
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It's not me. Jaguar.
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Sorry, Jaguar. Jaguar, Yeah.
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I even said it today to the head of marketing at Jaguar.
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So just as a heads up for North America.
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Nice. Well, you know, I'm a stickler
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for Porsche, so I probably should be a stickler for Jaguar.
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There we go. Yeah, I wasn't, Somebody said
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somebody said Porsche within earshot at Rent Port.
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And I was like, are we being serious?
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It's it's Dan, it's it's your countrymen, it's your your
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fellow British car media people who they hedge their bets and
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they will actively say both ways in any, you know, production,
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right, That's funny. We'll pick a, pick a side.
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I had a press car last weekend so I.
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It might be cooler than the one tell us about.
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It might be Quaker, I'm not sure if it.
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Was luxurious. So I was lucky enough to have
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the keys to a Mustang dark horse for the weekend.
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So this is obviously not going to be the most highest
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performance Mustang what they do, but it's one down.
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This is 500 horsepower. It was a manual.
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It had there's a tuning kit for it that the Ford make.
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So it was about $75,000 and which for $75,000 or even
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65,000. I don't think there's many other
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cars you can get with 500 horsepowers there.
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I can't think of any other. Maybe you get AC-8 for that or.
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For how much? What's I mean the base, I think
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the base price of it was like 65,000.
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I think isn't a Corvette closer to 80?
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Now. Stripping the screen.
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Yeah, and maybe, maybe again, we'll ask our viewers and
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listeners to tell us brand new cars what's the cheapest way to
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get into 500 horsepower, which in essence is the same as the
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GT3 right now. It is, it is.
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And we should probably qualify that with gasoline powered
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horsepower, right, Because I think they're probably some oh,
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that's true. Yeah.
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So probably some electric deals, right which which would?
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Qualify, which would get you in. That's a really good point.
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So anyway, I had the stuff for the weekend.
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Yeah, So what? Did you think?
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So it was good. I did a lot of Canyon carving.
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So I don't know. Have you guys been to the Rock
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Shop? No, only seen in.
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Pictures. Yeah, this is a location up in
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the Malibu hills and it's a diner coffee, but it's not a a
20:23
big place. But all around there, there are
20:26
some fantastic Canyon driving roads.
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This has been a bike destination for a long time, right?
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Like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's a big bike location, so it was manual.
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They do do an automatic as well, but I had the manual 1.
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I guess my high level commentary is the car makes you work for
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it, but it's worth the work it. Should work out.
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Than a Porsche, right? Yeah.
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You know, you're having to find your gears.
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You're having to, you know, really manage that weight
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because it's a heavier car. Yeah, but it was a lot of fun.
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I don't know. Lindsay, have you driven a dark
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horse? I haven't, but I was thinking
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when you were, it sounds like it may be the modern equivalent to
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like when they came out with the GT350R because it was in that
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price point. Yeah.
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And as far as like getting a performance car for that price,
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that was one of the few at the time and maybe it sounds like
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like that's the current. Offering natural, natural
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progression. But I love that you had the
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manual. You drew a GT3 comparison, would
21:28
this sort of be the GT3 to like the GTS Carrera S?
21:32
Because what are you getting over the GTI?
21:33
Guess this is my question. The.
21:36
GT you're getting. You mean the yeah the GT which
21:39
is the V8? Right, right, right.
21:41
So. You're getting better handling,
21:43
you're getting a different gearbox because you can get, I
21:45
think the V8 in a, but this is a, what's the right name of it?
21:49
Traumatic. No, it's very.
21:52
Trimic. Trimic It was traumatic for my
21:55
passengers for. Trimic, who is your passenger
21:58
Dan like good on them for? Brilliant flip.
22:01
Yeah, various, various people that wanted white knuckle rides,
22:05
But you get a better gearbox, better brakes.
22:07
It's got big Bosch brakes, you know, Is it Bosch?
22:11
It's not Bosch is. It Brembo.
22:13
Brembo I I need. But Bosch makes a mean fridge,
22:16
I'll tell you. That There we go.
22:17
Yeah, the. Brakes.
22:18
They used to make spark plugs. There we go.
22:20
Yeah. That's right.
22:21
But in Germany? Right.
22:23
But it was it was a good car. Like I think Ford have done a
22:26
really good job with that car. I think it's a car that will
22:30
appeal to people that like muscle cars.
22:33
I think people that are looking for something a little bit more.
22:35
I mean, I guess it would be, it was like a sledgehammer versus a
22:37
scalpel. So if you want a scalpel, you're
22:40
looking at something German. If you want something that's
22:43
got, you know, just, and it gets a lot of looks on the freeway as
22:46
well. People are like, you know,
22:48
people in older Mustangs are really giving you the thumbs.
22:50
And yeah, it was it. Was a big wing and all this.
22:53
Or yeah, big wing on the back. Big.
22:56
If you look at it, it almost looks like a horse from the
22:58
front because it's got big nostrils for air intake and I
23:02
think it's the first time that a Mustang has had a badge that is
23:05
a head on picture of a horse. Yeah.
23:09
Right, we've been the side profile.
23:11
Had a flattened horse going the wrong way in years straight that
23:16
was always bothering me about the Mustang.
23:18
Why is it going to the left right?
23:19
We all know that to the right means board progress, right?
23:22
Yeah, so this car is for Ryan, so.
23:25
Did you? What did you think?
23:27
I think when you were driving in the canyons, how did it feel?
23:30
You know, did you notice like, did it feel balanced and
23:33
responsive? Did you notice the weight
23:35
shifting a lot? Like what was the feel in the?
23:38
Canyon. I liked the way the car rotated
23:41
so it had a good rotation. It's a heavy car though, right?
23:44
That's the do. We know how much it weighs. 4000
23:48
lbs. I mean, yeah, that's £900 more
23:53
than a GT3, right? Yeah, it's not nothing.
23:56
And it's so much. Bigger, yeah, right.
23:58
I mean. It's a totally different animal.
24:01
Yeah, I mean, a lot of the time I was in second gear doing the
24:05
cabin corners and stuff. There were times when I had to
24:07
change down and stuff. So you aren't working out when
24:10
you're driving this car in more of a way than you would be in a
24:12
GT4? Is it a river or is it I mean
24:16
like when does the power come in and what's the red line if you?
24:18
Recall, yeah, I mean, the power's pretty instant, but you
24:22
know, I think the red line was, no, I didn't hit it a couple of
24:25
times, but yeah, I mean, this was this was Canyon stuff.
24:28
So you're you're cornering all the time, so you don't really
24:32
get to the Revlon. Yeah, yeah, right.
24:34
You're shopping for a car, sort of in this.
24:38
Yeah, test drive a four point O So last time I think I was on
24:42
the podcast, we were talking about me looking at these
24:44
boxers. Yeah, I did test drive a Boxster
24:48
4 point O, but it wasn't the right car for a number of
24:52
reasons. And I think for me the first
24:56
thing is really important is, is the dealership.
24:59
So before I even got to the car and I, I won't say which
25:02
dealership, but I didn't feel comfortable in the dealership,
25:06
which I think psychologically doesn't set you up to want to
25:09
buy a car. Yeah.
25:10
No, it's good. To get on the defensive, right?
25:12
Away. Yeah.
25:12
And then I got to look at the car and there was a whole load
25:15
of body damage which they very cleverly hidden in the pictures.
25:18
No, really. On the bottom skirt like hidden
25:21
in these pictures. So I still took it for a test
25:23
drive. It was the PDKII want to try the
25:26
the manual next, because I I don't think the PDK is right for
25:29
that car. I think it's right for other
25:31
cars, but not that car. So.
25:34
But it's all a great experience, isn't it?
25:36
Yeah, I like the idea of you. Yeah, I like the idea of you in
25:40
the GTS 4 point O and I understand they're actually more
25:43
rare than the GT4. Maybe you told me that.
25:45
I I can't recall, but it sure seems like a lot of them have
25:49
been wrecked for some reason. A lot of them seem to have
25:53
branded titles because once you started talking about driving
25:56
this car and of course I went down the rabbit hole because I'm
25:58
not shopping for anything so I have to live vicariously through
26:01
my friends like you and there are very few around I.
26:05
Found another one in Houston that was manual but the body
26:08
work on it was awful. This is like a 22 year car so I
26:16
guess those cars have been abused a lot.
26:18
Yikes, that's. Yeah, which is weird because I
26:22
think generally Porsche drivers are good drivers and I think
26:26
that's proven by, by insurance rights, right?
26:30
Yeah, Yeah. So you know, I would, I think, I
26:34
don't know, maybe the tables are turning in the Mustangs the the
26:39
Lu proposition. Or there's something about that
26:45
model that attracts people. That's weird because you think
26:48
it might be the GD4 just because of the wing or whatever, but
26:51
that's that's interesting. Well, but in terms of like
26:53
actually being able to get into one of them, I don't know, maybe
26:58
that's. Yeah, I.
27:00
Don't know so. Keep looking.
27:02
Right, the search continues. Yeah.
27:04
Stay tuned for the next chapter of What's Dan going to be
27:07
Driving? Before long.
27:08
Or at least. That's driving.
27:10
Would you, I mean would in a million years, would you
27:11
consider the dark horse or was it like a fun car to borrow?
27:15
I I want a convertible. OK.
27:17
And there's no dark horse convertible.
27:19
No. And I think the dynamics of the
27:20
car, if they chop the top off that car, it wouldn't work just
27:23
from a dynamics perspective. Yeah, but this weekend I'm
27:27
heading up the coast and I've hired a Mustang, just a regular
27:31
one, not a not AV 8 or anything, because I just, I've talked
27:34
about this before, but they're almost like the beta equivalent.
27:37
You know, you have it in watch world, you have a Beta, which is
27:40
a watch you wear. You don't mind if it gets
27:42
scuffed up, but you're still proud of the watch, right.
27:45
Well, that's where that's how I see the Mustang as a rental.
27:48
Yeah, it's, it's the beta of the rental car world.
27:52
And it it does a great job and you take the top down and.
27:55
Yeah, so. Is that you have a convertible
27:59
for the road trip. Yeah, convertible Mustang, so
28:01
very. Nice.
28:02
Well, it's such an. Iconic road trip.
28:04
You know, you kind of picture like, especially going up the
28:06
California coast, like a convertible Mustang is pretty
28:09
perfect for that. Yeah, I did look at the
28:11
Corvette. It was three times the the
28:13
amount, but they had a mileage limit of 300 miles.
28:17
Oh, and I'm going to be doing more than 300 miles, so.
28:19
This hertzer enterprise. This is enterprise who I think
28:23
need to sponsor this show's enterprise.
28:26
Well, you guys know that I've been a Hertz proponent for many,
28:30
many years, right? I have my little hacks and all.
28:32
That until you get the French cars.
28:34
Yeah, but I am anti Hertz all of a sudden because have you heard
28:39
about these scanners that they're using when you return a
28:41
car now? I think it's probably primarily
28:44
at airport locations. My little neighborhood location,
28:47
an E Colfax in Denver probably doesn't have one of these, but
28:51
it literally scans the car every angle, every surface can can
28:56
pick up on anything from a curved wheel to a Ding and you
28:59
get charged automatically. And to me, that just sounds like
29:03
a nightmare. I'm I'm always the guy out there
29:06
taking my own video and stuff. But how, how do you argue
29:10
against that without trying to do a chargeback on your credit
29:12
card or something? And you know, I've heard the
29:13
argument too, like it's a rental car, right?
29:16
I mean, it's going to pick up a scuff or two.
29:17
I don't think what was the, the Seinfeld episode where Jerry's
29:21
at the at the counter and he's trying to get a car and they're
29:24
giving him crap or whatever. He finally gets 1 and you know,
29:27
and, and the lady says, you know, drive safely and he and he
29:29
says something effective. Well, I'm going to beat the
29:30
living crap out of this car, you know, but I think that's kind of
29:34
the mentality we all go into with the rental car to some
29:37
degree. So well.
29:39
I don't know, Stuff happens. Like, yeah, because part of
29:44
travel is you're in unfamiliar. Right.
29:47
Parking garages and streets and all of that.
29:50
And I think you you can be the most conscientious driver ever.
29:53
You're in a car that's likely not familiar to.
29:55
You, yeah. With dimensions that you're
29:57
getting used to, and you might be in a, you know, especially if
30:01
you're in a city, stuff happens, yeah.
30:03
And so it takes out the element of like, if you want to go in
30:07
and say like, hey, I did curb the wheel.
30:09
I was in this weird garage. Right.
30:10
You know, like. Takes out the ability to discuss
30:13
it and sort of find a, you know, an amenable solution for all
30:17
parties. Right, right.
30:18
And a curved wheel is one of those things you could
30:19
traditionally get away with, I think in a in a rental car, but
30:24
not anymore. But of course, Hertz will say
30:25
we'll just buy the comprehensive coverage and we're, we're good,
30:28
right? And help pay for the scanner.
30:30
I once drove a Mazzarati Quattaporte over a concrete
30:35
bollard in a car park. I didn't see it.
30:38
Yeah, I didn't see it, and I just had this massive crunch.
30:41
Luckily I had the full insurance so I was.
30:43
That was an interesting. Conversation.
30:45
Thank you. For your time.
30:48
You talk about not knowing the dimensions of the car.
30:50
The last time I had AAV 8GT4GT Mustang GT rental car we had a
30:56
hailstorm coming and I was going to try to stick the nose of it
30:59
at least in my garage. Will this hailstorm that never
31:01
came was was supposed to come and I because I just had no idea
31:05
about the the size of the car and I, I drove it right into the
31:10
bumper of my old Cayman and it had two little marks from the
31:14
license plate on the on the Mustang GT that I was out there
31:17
with a hair dryer and I could never get over those two marks
31:22
from the. When you're trying to do the
31:25
conscientious thing. And prepare for the weather.
31:27
And protect the car that's not even yours.
31:30
I know and then for. The weather to never even
31:32
arrive. Yeah, yeah.
31:34
And that's the difference between a £3000 car and a £4000
31:38
car. Now you know.
31:39
Exactly, exactly. I had I was talking last weekend
31:44
at a cruise in specifically about some of the events that
31:48
have happened over the last week in Los Angeles.
31:51
And in particular there was a death on the Crest Highway and
31:57
it was on a Friday. And by all accounts the the
32:00
person that passed was heading to Good Vibes Breakfast Club.
32:03
And the reason I raised that was because the conversation I had
32:06
about that with these people were regulars at Good Vibes and
32:10
they were actually attributing part of the blame for the
32:14
popularity and how Good Vibes has become more successful to
32:19
the road and track article. Was it road and track or current
32:21
driver? Current driver.
32:22
Vera Rd. Yeah.
32:24
Rd. Track.
32:24
Rd. Track.
32:25
Road and track. And they said that had it not
32:27
been for that article, that the the location, the event wouldn't
32:33
have become so popular. And sometimes well kept secrets
32:37
should stay well kept secrets. Ryan, I know you and I were
32:40
talking earlier in the week and you mentioned that you've been
32:43
on this fantastic road and that you really wanted to write about
32:46
it. But, you know, are you betraying
32:49
your fellow car lovers? So I just wondered what you
32:52
folks thought about that in terms of, you know, should these
32:54
things become sacred and secret or should they be publicized?
32:59
I think it changes the consideration obviously, when
33:02
people are losing their lives, but I don't think that's, you
33:07
know, I mean, unfortunate, unfortunately, Angela's Crest,
33:11
there have been accidents on Angela's Crest for a long time.
33:14
Like it's, you know, especially to people in Southern
33:16
California. Like it's known as like a
33:19
challenging Rd. To drive in the sense of like
33:21
you can get over your head quickly if you're not being
33:24
smart, which I think people have been doing that a lot longer
33:28
than like because the article is relatively recent like.
33:32
You know, I think it's more that the popularity of good vibes now
33:36
means that there's a lot more cars and a lot more people that
33:39
are driving more dangerously. Because good vibes used to be a
33:42
little community, right, of people that everyone knew each
33:44
other. Everyone was, you know, as it
33:47
says in the name, Good vibes. Is that quantifiable?
33:51
Like, I mean, I've been to handful, but I I'm not local,
33:53
obviously to Lai mean is is you 2?
33:57
I think probably have been to more than I have, and especially
34:00
over the span of time. Have you I mean, is that have
34:03
you actually seen that or is that just you're saying?
34:05
Is this article just a scapegoat?
34:07
Or, you know, is this? I feel like the article's a
34:10
scapegoat in part because it's so recent, because I think like
34:15
I've known about good vibes for a long time, like well before I
34:18
had the chance to go because of social media.
34:21
And I think that was well before the article, but I think, yeah,
34:26
I, I think the article is a scapegoat that I mean, it's
34:29
possible that it reached like it did make it reach a wider
34:33
audience. I mean, it's definitely gotten
34:35
busier. But my impression before this,
34:39
you know, take on it was just that that was word getting out
34:42
over social media and just kind of organic growth.
34:47
But yeah, I mean, it's definitely, it's definitely
34:49
gotten bigger, but I think that happens with a lot of events
34:54
because car people are always looking for something to
34:57
celebrate their hobby with and meet kind of like minded people.
35:01
I think unfortunately this one's at the top of a road that can
35:06
get away from you if you don't drive conscientiously or you
35:10
know, you can outdrive your talent.
35:12
Unfortunately. But I'm curious.
35:15
Yeah. I'm curious what you think, Dan.
35:19
Well, no, I, I, I just, I, you know this, you mentioned this
35:21
road that I got to drive on recently and it was it was me
35:25
and my buddy Colin and, and his his GT3 touring and then our
35:31
buddy Kurt from eat sleep drive on YouTube and his 9 N 1.1 GT 3.
35:37
And then there was a 9 N 7.2 GT 3.
35:40
And then there was a a very cool Audi B7RS4, which is a very cool
35:46
car, but just was in a was pretty pretty much outclassed I
35:49
think by the the Porsches is is wanted to happen.
35:52
But we I was introduced to Rd. I'd never driven.
35:56
It was fantastic. If you know Colorado roads, you
36:00
know that most of our roads are good roads are Canyon roads.
36:02
Second, third gear. This was the rare Rd. that I got
36:06
into 4th gear a few times in a GT4 with long gears.
36:09
So we were flying, the road was fantastic.
36:12
It had a little bit of everything, which is I think one
36:15
of the keys to a good road. And I want to spread the gospel,
36:20
but I know that, you know, not that our platform is so huge,
36:24
but, you know, that's a road that could be very easily
36:27
ruined. And it's a road much like
36:28
Angela's Crest where you could really get in and over your head
36:30
very quickly. And I had a couple of close
36:32
calls and I, I'd like to think I know what I'm doing.
36:34
So, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's tough, right?
36:39
It's, it's, and I think the older I get, the less likely I
36:42
am to just go driving with people I don't know anymore.
36:45
I tend to drive with people who I know are good drivers who kind
36:48
of have a similar skill set, who I know are not going to get in
36:50
over the heads. You know, it's just, it's not us
36:55
though, it's everyone else. And that's the problem.
36:57
I've heard about this from people on motorcycles for a long
36:59
time, right? It's you can be the best cyclist
37:02
and, you know, in the world, best rider in the world.
37:04
But, but it's that other person who's looking at their phone or
37:07
whatever. And it sounds like maybe that's
37:08
what happened on Angela's Crest, that the person who was killed
37:12
was not necessarily the one at fault.
37:15
No, it sounds like the car that hit them under steered and went
37:18
into their head on. But I think, I mean, you know,
37:22
Ryan, you were talking about like, like we are at the mercy
37:26
of other people's choices, too. I mean, and that's true like on
37:29
the road on these Canyon roads, that's true at the racetrack.
37:32
Like, I mean, the number of stories I've heard where
37:34
somebody comes around a corner on Angela's Crest and there's
37:36
somebody in the lane making a. 3 point turn or whatever.
37:40
I mean, like there was that accident within the last year
37:43
with the 29 Elevens, I think one with the GT3RS and the engine,
37:48
you know, I mean, the pictures were stunning because one of
37:50
them, the engine had just been shorn right off.
37:52
Yes. Sitting in the road by itself,
37:56
you know, and I think that was one of them was making a turn, I
37:59
think like in the middle of the road.
38:01
And so it's, I think I think it's easy to blame the article
38:06
because I think especially, especially an accident like that
38:08
where a young enthusiast, you know, loses their life, that's
38:12
awful. And I think we try to make sense
38:14
of things like that, which really don't make sense.
38:18
And so I think it's easy to scapegoat the article, but I
38:20
think it's more nuanced than that.
38:21
I think it's like, I think the the word has gotten out in
38:26
general, like social media, word of mouth, the article, you know,
38:30
people are always looking for good roads to drive.
38:32
Yeah, yeah. And, you know, other people's
38:35
choices, like we all make our choices.
38:37
And I think that impacts like more than us often times.
38:41
Yeah, yeah, it's managed risk, right.
38:43
And and you know, I say I was, you know, in fourth gear.
38:45
Well, 4th gear in my car is a very fast speed.
38:48
And should I be doing that on public roads?
38:50
Probably not, right? And and I, I, you know, I will,
38:55
yeah, it's, it's tough. It's getting the older I get.
38:57
That's, that's a tougher sort of argument to make, right?
39:00
Like that. This is OK, right?
39:03
Yeah, it's like how much you can justify more easily when you're
39:06
younger. And, and I think especially, you
39:09
know, I, I have definitely thought like, am I being a
39:12
responsible parent to go up and do that?
39:16
You know, and I'm, I mean, I've been in my SUV when I go
39:19
Evangelist Crest 'cause that's what I have available.
39:21
But it's like, am I like, even if I'm doing everything right,
39:25
I'm aware. Like we're still the other
39:27
things can happen. And so it's like, yeah, it, it
39:30
just changes the calculus. Yeah.
39:31
Ryan, how would you feel if a journalist tomorrow wrote about
39:34
that road and then the next time you went to use that road there
39:38
was 20 other, you know, similarly like minded people
39:41
using the road? I know and I'd like to say it
39:44
was altruistic, but it's purely a, a selfish thing.
39:47
I think that I wouldn't want that.
39:50
You know, it's it's tough, you know, obviously, right, for
39:53
Autoblog. I'm certainly no Johnny
39:54
Lieberman or Matt Farah and road and track.
39:56
But you know, these are, you know, I want to talk about the
39:59
roads I drive, right? I want to, you know, it's part
40:01
of the story, right? And and I think that there are a
40:03
couple here close to Denver that, you know, I mean, they're
40:06
not secrets, right? So I think it's OK to talk
40:08
about, but you know, like this one that I was on.
40:10
I mean, I'll say it starts with AT.
40:13
If you know, you know. If you don't, you won't.
40:15
You had never been introduced to it as.
40:17
Something as you do right here, right?
40:20
Live there like that does to like it's a more, it's a less
40:23
well known than some of the other.
40:24
Ones yeah, yeah, I'd be a little pissed.
40:26
I think, you know, I don't want to dump on, on Matt Farah
40:29
because I, I feel like this was, it's not like he, you know,
40:32
uncovered a secret. We're dumping on I.
40:37
He's more the emphasis of like letting secrets become non
40:41
secrets through different mediums right?
40:43
Yeah, but I. Think I.
40:46
Mean it kind of goes to like, I think that's such an like
40:50
intrinsic element of the car community is like we find each
40:54
other because of the love of cars and driving.
40:57
And I think a big part of that is sharing our cars, but also
41:00
like, check out this amazing drive I just did.
41:03
Yeah, you know. Like, that's such a part of it.
41:08
And I think it's easy to point at the article because it's very
41:10
visible, but it's. Think of the number of.
41:13
Conversations you have. Here's the compromise, right?
41:16
Right. And you drive it in the genesis,
41:18
you write about it, and then people will either want to read
41:21
it or not. I know.
41:23
And that's the thing you have to tell the whole story, right?
41:25
And and here's the other argument.
41:27
You know, it's kind of a, a term du jour, but but gatekeeping,
41:31
right, Right. You know, who are we to decide?
41:34
OK, I'm going to enjoy this now. I'm going to shut the door,
41:36
right? There's there's that too, I
41:39
think. That yeah, because it changes
41:41
the hobby if we suddenly get like hoardy about like, well,
41:44
this is my. Rd.
41:45
Yeah. And if you think about it,
41:47
that's like very contrary to the essence of good vibes, which FJ
41:52
and Nicole obviously like went to great pains to say like this
41:56
is not an official, it's not a club, it's not anything.
41:58
It's just like we're just, we're going up and if you're up there
42:02
and you're like minded, we're very happy to have you.
42:04
Like it's all love and you know. Yeah.
42:08
So it's it's interesting or it's like ironic, like definitely
42:13
thought provoking to think that like even something started with
42:16
that intent. That wasn't like they didn't
42:19
start it something that had grown you.
42:22
Know, and this is nothing new. Think about like Mulholland
42:24
Drive back in the day, right? You know, there were organized
42:27
races. Yeah.
42:30
What's that, Dan? That's Taylor the dragon.
42:32
Taylor the dragon, I mean, you could say that jumped the shark,
42:34
right? The dragon jumped the shark a
42:36
long time ago. I and then of course, the
42:37
argument is there are better roads, you know, miles from from
42:41
that, right? It's it's, it's, it's tough.
42:45
It's not a new argument, but you know, cars are faster than ever.
42:48
More people have access to performance than ever.
42:51
But I guess who are we to police it?
42:52
But at the same time, you know, it's, I don't know, it's a, it's
42:56
a tough. I think if anything.
42:58
Road to walk. Call to action or like the hope
43:01
is, you know, just kind of hammering home that like leave
43:06
your ego at home if at all possible, Like just if we all
43:09
because if people start not enjoying it responsibly and
43:14
people are getting people are getting hurt obviously and
43:17
killed, that ruins it for everybody.
43:19
And it's the same like on a non fatal scale, it's the same idea.
43:25
If you look at Malibu Kitchen, like that was an amazing cars
43:27
and coffee. It got popular and it got shut
43:30
down. Like look at all at like it's
43:32
sort of cyclical. It's just unfortunate that Vibes
43:35
is now experiencing an element of that too.
43:38
Once it's no longer underground, right?
43:40
It's, it's, it's, you know, it's yeah, because there's a but
43:43
something else will replace it, right?
43:45
Or, or, you know, maybe even those same people will end up
43:47
going somewhere else, the Ogs or whatever.
43:49
It's it's, it's just. On Friday at 7:00 AM I'll be at
43:54
the Rock shop and if anyone wants to join me, I won't be in
43:57
a Mustang this week but. The end of the new Pied Piper of
44:01
the LA car scene. The Rock Shop is where it's at.
44:04
That's. Cool, well I I've never heard of
44:07
that place so I'm excited to check it.
44:08
Out it looks cool. Around it there's two different
44:11
routes. Yeah.
44:13
Really good routes. Yeah, yeah, I'm excited.
44:16
To to explore. I guess in the end, there's a
44:19
time and a place, right? And you know, you can drive
44:22
spiritedly and safely, right? But you have to take into
44:25
consideration, you know, who else is on the road, what the
44:27
weather's like, What Car you're in, what your skill set is,
44:30
right? You know, it's, it's, it's just,
44:34
you know, it's not the same formula every time you go out,
44:36
right? And sometimes, you know, I go
44:38
out and I'm just not feeling it. And then I start slipping up and
44:40
I'm like, all right, time, It's time.
44:42
And other times you're on it and it feels good and it's right and
44:45
it can be magic, but know your limits.
44:48
And the phrase respect the Crest.
44:50
I mean, you know, makes more sense than ever, right?
44:53
There's a reason they say that. I mean, and that's Ryan.
44:56
Like there I was thinking about that concept today when I was at
44:59
the track because that was one of the most like surprising
45:04
realizations for me when I first started doing high performance
45:07
driving was realizing like, hey, we're all dependent on each
45:11
other to monitor our like focus and energy levels and all of
45:15
that. And so I kind of came up with
45:17
some like guidelines for myself, like, hey, if I catch myself
45:21
thinking about anything but the track twice in a session, like
45:25
go off and get a cup of. Coffee you.
45:27
Know or something like that. And yeah, it's just, it's like
45:32
you said, I think there's an element of like when you're
45:36
younger, you don't want to acknowledge, like you said,
45:39
maybe you're having an off day or like maybe you're just not
45:41
feeling it. I think as you get older, you're
45:44
more willing to go, like, all right, I can come back another
45:47
day. I was doing some track stuff in
45:50
that Bradford school. Yeah, it was in the afternoon
45:53
after lunch, 108°, and I wasn't feeling it, so I just pulled out
45:58
and just just went into the pits.
45:59
And yeah, and I don't think a younger me would have done that.
46:03
No same. Getting older, wiser, yeah.
46:08
But no smarter. Well, yeah.
46:11
Well, yeah, I've had, you know, it used to be like going to the
46:14
track. It was like I had to drive every
46:15
minute of every session and get my money's worth and maximize
46:18
the time. And I don't think there's
46:20
anything wrong with that as long as you're on top of it.
46:22
But yeah, as I've gotten older, I've sort of given myself
46:25
permission. Like, hey, if I'm flagging,
46:28
nobody wins. If I make myself go out for the
46:30
last session or I, you know, force myself to finish it, like
46:34
one more lap isn't necessarily positive.
46:37
Yeah, yeah. So this weekend there are quite
46:40
a few things going on. Lindsay, I think you're
46:44
representing in Seattle, is that right?
46:46
That's. Right, Avance is having their
46:48
classics on the green and it's the 5th annual event at Chateau
46:53
San Michelle Winery so I will be checking it out.
46:57
Yeah, it's a good event and I know that I'm not sure these
47:00
have been announced, but Steve McQueen car will be there.
47:03
That's exciting. And Maya's Mike, Steve McQueen
47:05
Carr, which would be pretty cool.
47:08
I know the folks at NILU are bringing a car up.
47:11
And we got to see that car at the LA Auto Show.
47:12
We didn't even and me hesher and is this hesher and his wife?
47:16
Yes. Ena Ena, super nice people.
47:19
Lovely. People, that's a whole story.
47:22
If you don't know this car, then neither.
47:24
Like there's this guy, there's this couple, like hell, I'm
47:27
going to build my own supercar. And they did.
47:30
Who did he work for before? Was it Pagani?
47:34
That sounds right. And that probably helps.
47:35
Or was it Koenigsegg? I I can't remember.
47:37
It was something like that, right.
47:39
So he didn't come in with like a blank slate.
47:41
He didn't design this thing on an Etcha sketch, right?
47:43
He. Wasn't.
47:44
In the back of it, but still, like, that's, that's the thing
47:48
people used to do. People don't do that anymore,
47:50
you know, and, and, but he did. They did.
47:53
That's a beautiful car. Yeah, So that would be good.
47:55
Ryan, what are you up to this weekend?
47:56
Much. God, I don't even know.
47:57
I I've got my sister and her family coming into town, so
48:00
probably not a whole lot of driving, probably doing some
48:02
tourist things instead, you know?
48:05
They probably want to see your new special Rd.
48:07
That's what I'm saying. Right.
48:09
All right everyone pile in the seven seater rental SUV we're
48:13
we're going to a road that starts with AT they will never
48:18
come back you're. Going to take the long way to
48:21
the zoo that's. Right.
48:23
That's right. That's right.
48:25
I. Realize how far LA is to Laguna
48:27
Seca, so it's just over 5 hours on a good trip.
48:32
So this weekend I'll be tracking up to and I'll probably spend
48:35
more time in the car than I will at the track, but it'll be worth
48:38
it because I'm going to go to Moto America, which will be the
48:41
the second one of the season I'll have been to and see some
48:44
super bikes ripping and yeah should be good fun.
48:46
Well. We're going to say like the
48:48
whole area is just so magical and we're going to say it's such
48:50
a great track and you know, it is, like you said, it is a
48:53
proper road trip. Yeah, yeah.
48:56
And it'll be good scouting for Car Week because that's going to
48:58
be, I think we're 29 days away from Car Week.
49:01
Can you believe it? Get out of town.
49:05
You know how much I have to do before car?
49:08
Like we were saying before we started, there are not enough
49:10
hours in the day. Oh.
49:12
No, it's going to be here before.
49:14
Before we interesting stuff I'm hearing, I'm hearing maybe an
49:19
electric British car. OK.
49:22
Gordon Murray has said he's bringing some special editions.
49:26
OK, OK. To the quail.
49:28
Yeah. What else?
49:31
What else? I think they're the main ones I
49:34
can talk about that I've heard about speaking.
49:38
Of gate giving. Yeah, if you guys think people
49:43
are funny about roads, wait till you get to events at Car Week.
49:47
Boy, that is a whole shebang. I had food for the call back.
49:53
Yeah, I will say most people have been very, very kind to us.
49:56
Others. We'll we'll get there right.
49:58
So who do we need to thank in advance?
50:00
I know that motorsport, the Monterey Motorsport Festival,
50:03
yes, has been very kind. Yes, Concorso Italiano.
50:08
Barnums and RM Sotheby's. Yep, Yep.
50:11
There we go. Thank you very much.
50:13
Thank you. The rest of you get with it.
50:15
I was looking at some of the auction items and the one that I
50:19
think it sounds really cool is the folks at Mecum are
50:23
auctioning a 70s Dino and this Dino in period had the track or
50:29
the the record for driving the cannonball.
50:33
So. So that's one I want to check
50:35
out for sure. Yeah, that's.
50:37
Super. Cool.
50:38
Do we like the Dino? What do we?
50:40
What do I mean, of course we like the Dino, but what I don't
50:44
like about the Dino is it's now a very expensive car that, you
50:47
know, not that long ago was 5 figure car.
50:50
Yeah. I know, I think you know some
50:53
things find you. So when I first started going to
50:56
car week regularly again, I think in 2021, Dino's were
51:01
everywhere. And I was like, OK, I don't know
51:04
what's going on, but they kept finding me.
51:05
You know, I would turn around and there's one and so, so I
51:08
have a soft spot for them. Plus they are.
51:10
They're just so cute in all their bright colors.
51:12
They are. They are.
51:13
They're either one of you driven 1.
51:15
No. No.
51:18
I'm open to it. Yeah, I think I might get a
51:20
chance here soon. So we'll, yeah, we'll see.
51:22
I got a fit in the thing. Now that's watch this.
51:25
Yeah. Yeah.
51:27
Nothing like driving a Dino to motivate your health and
51:29
fitness. Is it grease up the what What
51:34
prompted? You to get in shape.
51:36
Well, yeah, yeah, I thought it was going to be Car week, but
51:38
that hasn't played out like I'd hoped, so it's another year of
51:43
sweating on. The machine.
51:46
Pebble. Yeah, with Cindy Crawford.
51:49
Right, right, right, right. Shoot, Shoot anyway.
51:52
I love it. Yeah, it's a good time.
51:57
Is there anything else we wanted to talk about?
51:58
Do I feel like we should end on something uplifting?
52:01
I maybe it's maybe it'll be this maybe the plea to our listeners.
52:05
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52:22
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52:29
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52:31
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52:33
We appreciate it very much. Share your thoughts on all of
52:36
the topics that we have covered today.
52:38
Right, absolutely. What's Lindsay going to have on
52:41
the side of the car? Right.
52:42
Yes, yes. What do we think about whether
52:47
these best kept secrets should stay best kept secrets?
52:51
Yeah, How do we feel about Dino's?
52:54
How do we feel about Dino? 'S who hates a Dino?
52:56
All right, let's be. You know, there was a purple
52:58
one. I mean, it still exists, but
53:00
there was one that was kind of making the rounds and I think
53:03
Broad Arrow was auctioning. It.
53:06
Two years ago and it was just the cutest thing ever there.
53:10
You go that you want. You want a cute Ferrari?
53:13
Right. Cute purple Ferrari.
53:15
How? What's not to love?
53:16
All right. I think that's a show, so.
53:20
Thanks guys. Until next week, always, always
53:24
be driving. There you go.
53:28
Thanks everyone.