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DA CREW PODCAST SEASON 2_ EPISODE _29_ HOST SHANETTE W JOHNSON · DA CREW Podcast

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Talk About It. Tonight. We'll be joined with Glenn Kemp, who is
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currently incarcerated in Denver. He's serving a life plus one hundred and ninety two
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years with the possibility of parole. Also, his nephew will be joining us
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on this evening, So sit back, relax, let's get caught up with
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mister Kemp. Grab a bottle of water or your favorite drink, and let's
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talk. Hello, mister camp I'm doing well. How are you. I'm
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that's good. That's good. We have your nephew in studio with us.
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I'm just waiting for him to come up there. He is, Hi,
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how are you. I'm just great. Un How you doing, Johnny oh
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Man? You know me take it in one day at a time. Well,
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okay, so the first the last time we talked, we talked about
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the conviction, what got what got you there? And today I really wanted
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to do a m m hmm, like a brief like like dude, like
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a uh, give us a brief description so we can get into everything else.
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So go ahead with it, okay, my uh my case. You
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know it came from a situation where I was going to work, you know
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each stay on the heavy equipment operator. You know, I was going to
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working stay and went out of the way of work. My children's mother was
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drugging them with adult medication and locking them away in the bedroom just to grass
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around, you know, with guys you know, in and outside her home.
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And one of the children that she was drugging and locking away was my
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sixth six month old son. Uh. So there was a seven year old,
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my seven year old daughter, my five year old's son, and the
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six month olds and you know, for for for a while, you know,
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I didn't know anything about it. This was during the summer, so
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school was out, but the work getting to go outside and play. Like
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I said, she was rocking, drugging and rocking away and drinking, you
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know, with men inside and entertainment at our home and outside our home.
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Uh, my son, my six month old son died. Uh. I
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went to work, you know, one morning, the night before I went
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to work, she was coming out of the bedroom with the six month old
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son and paid her towards the couch, and I asked her to put in
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you know, in his crisp. Uh. She uh didn't take two time
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and you know what I mean, asked him. You know, she had
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drinken about almost a kind of ninety ciptainer. Again, So I went to
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bed, you know, and left her left her home. I got up
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about four or thirty the next morning and want to work. Uh. At
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about eight o'clock, I got a call from her at work and she was
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crying and telling me that my son was there. You know, let's left
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the job, call my boss and left the job and got you know,
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when I got back home and the police were in my apartment, but I
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could see they wouldn't allow me to go inside. But I could see my
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six month brother's son lying on the floor door. Ah. So you know,
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we got past that, you know, I got my son, you
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know, and everything, and constantly. Two weeks after, you know,
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we buried it, I was downstairs at a friend of mine apartment, you
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know, having a drink woman and a sixteen year old son. I was
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getting there. Had came in about three thirty in the morning, and spar
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was getting ready to go home, and he stopped me and said, then,
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you know, I've got something that I need to tell you, you
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know. Oh, And so I stopped to sit out with him and listen
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to him, and he told me that the night you know that my six
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month old son died, but she had abandoned it and she had been out
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with him all night drinking, you know, important, and that when I
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got up to go to work next morning, that she uh, she hadn't
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been long back on the sofa, but she was come up with those ships
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in there all night. I went back upstairs to confront her about you know,
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but I've been told when I got back upstairs to five year old son,
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he was sitting up in the dark crime and she had abandoned the children
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again. And when I found her, she was two apartment doors down,
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dropped and passed out of another lady's sofa. She was had naked, but
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there was another gentleman lying beside her, and he was full of dressed.
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So you know, while out there was a four year area about a four
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four year area from the step inside the apartment, and they had a futon
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bed pushed up to it where you would have had to step across the futon
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bed to get inside of the apartment. So I stood there in front of
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the bed, but on the right hand side, my right hand side,
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there was about eighteen minutes las down beside the tuton dead on the side of
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the bed that she was lying on. Up the g and work her up.
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I'm back out of uh that space. After I got a after I
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woke her up and I was standing at the end of the bed when she
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got up and started to come down that way towards me, and she tripped
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on the car at the futar bed and fell first face burst into my chest.
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The door was opened behind me, and so the only was still open
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behind me. The only place that the door was to take one step backwards
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and out the door. Uh the length of the apartment. Had run into
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the kitchen to get a tap of water, and about the time she tricked
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and fell into my chest, the lady was coming back around the car out
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of the kitchen and get a drink of water, and she saw me setting
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out of the door. And so the second Greek kidnapper George, you know,
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or she said, it appeared as though I was dragging her even though
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she was facing me, And so I got a second Greek pick charge for
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that. So then that'll be that's the so you said, the first one
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of the charge is the first degree kidnappers, right, second degree second degree?
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And what is the what is the the normal time that you will get
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for that? What's the sentence on that? The eight for twenty four years
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h half of the eighth you know, anywhere between four to twenty four years
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in prison. I could have gotten, you know, twenty four years or
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eight years. Okay, And you're and the next charge what was the next
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charge they charged you with? The next charge was first to be assault.
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They are last that I had feed her with a shoe, you know.
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And so in my fifth what had happened, you know? And she was
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sitting when we went into our apartment, she would set on the bed,
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and when she sat on the bed, she sat on the cart of the
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bed, and I kneeled down in front of her on the floor and one
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knee and started to question about you know, German, the children, you
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know, and locking my way in the daytime, all the work. And
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she denied it, you know, and you know, I just you know,
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I didn't, you know, I just just didn't have it the right
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way. I butted her with the hill of my hand one time between her
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eyes. The extent of the injury that she received from it was a bloody
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nose and a black guy. And so that would you would say, that
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will be the second charge. That was the second charge in charge. And
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now for the boken nose, you know, was something in that, you
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know, it was never mentioned in the emergency room before I took it to
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the emergency room. And so a nose injury was never reported, but that
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was that's what was alleged that her nose was broken. Okay. So yeah,
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uh, it was alleged that her nose was broken. So for that
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for that offense, what's the sentencing for that? For that charge it would
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have been four to sixteen years. That one would have been forty sixteen years.
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Yes, they gave me sixty four years for that, okay. And
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because the reason why I'm asking this because the when you give me the last
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charge, I want to know the sentence of that, because your sentence to
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your sentence is one hundred and ninety two years plus life on there and the
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numbers that you're basically giving me, it doesn't add up to one hundred and
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ninety two years. Can't you know? They given sence hashers to and had
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my sentence that the senace and Hansers were no good because they add the jury
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on vert forms was any serious d ruts injury occur? And I was used
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for the business weapons and the jury asked Noah on the very from the jarge
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used the elements and crimea virus crime, so matter sort Senator to use those
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unproven elements and half those elements and so what was the so what so the
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two that's that has no because I have jury verdicts right here, did jury
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verdicts, and I see that what the jury said was no on two accounts.
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Yeah, and those are the count Those two counts are the ones where
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you got your the in halfess On got ninety six years to each those starts.
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Okay, well a minut for the second degree kidnapp and I got ninety
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six years. Okay, you got that. You got ninety six years for
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this is what the jury verdict that says no on it. You got ninety
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six years for a jury verdict for a verdict that the jury said no,
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absolutely yes, okay, so so so so the next one, the next
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note, what was the next note for the next note was for a you
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know they could tex a saut She was sitting on the corner of the bard.
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What fight we had, verbal and physical last less than five minutes because
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the only thing I ever did was murdered up one time with the word of
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my hand between gosh, we weren't get anywhere, you know, and I
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have been drinking from myself. So I laid down across the foot of the
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bed. Had won't have went asleep, had went to sleep. Ah,
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I don't know thty to forty five minutes later it must have been you know,
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she uh brabbed me by her hand and prowt me towards her. But
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I got up and you know, took off my clothes and got in the
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bed. You know, we had sex. Uh, sex was never you
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know, the part of it. You know, due to what we were
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arguing about. Sex was the last thing that was on my mind. So
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and you know, when it comes to that, that's just you know,
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uh, when it comes to a woman that I write to say, no,
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that's something that I've never violated in my life, right, you know.
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And yes, and also I know you know, a man for any
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reason, she never put his hands you know on a woman. But that
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was something and I won't say, but you know, it's just something that
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I didn't handle the right way. You know, you know what it happened.
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Okay, So that out one you received. Not for the second note
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that the jury said no, that you didn't commit that that offense the judge
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gave you. Yes, the judge gave you how many years did you give
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you for that? To give me ninety six years for that? You know,
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the jury said no, that there was no service part of the injury.
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So basically I got a first free sixty four first degree off that they
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ran inside of the two ninety six and uh so when when when they did
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that? That's how I ended up with ninety six years the two ninety six
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year sentences that they ran consecutive, and you know, uh, like you're
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saying you should have a verdict from there where it was asked for the set
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injury was committed, you know, the commission of the sex assault. The
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jury, so the injury and the crimea botus to set up for me the
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ninety six years anyway, so you know that's yeah, I have your your
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nephew and two Yeah, Karon darn your sent your your uncle sentenced. The
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jury said no to two accounts, but the judge, the judge still sentenced
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him to ninety six years for one account that the jury said no on For
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the second account the jury said no, and the judge still sentence your uncle
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to another ninety six years on a note verdict. What what is your opinion
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or your thoughts on that, Well, let's sounds to me that his charges
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was stagnated. And to really see for me to see how they can give
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him ninety six years, I would have to read Colorado's statues of limitations,
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you see, and with that a crime, no matter what crime it is,
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if don't nobody die, it's got to have a discharge date. And
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it's like they gave him. They overkilled him on both sentences, which one
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sentence only carry up to twenty four years, and the second sentence should only
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carry up to twenty four years, and with twenty four years should be in
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his sentence, he would have been home ten years ago. You know,
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I think it was a prejudic at that time back in well, that was
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twenty one years ago, So that had to be what two thousand and four,
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two thousand and three or something in there, two thousand and two,
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because I haven't seen it since nineteen ninety nine. And back then the court
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system was corrupt, and I can just imagine in that little small town of
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let's say eighty percent white, that is going to be corrupt. You know,
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they made an example. I feel they made an example out of him,
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which he wasn't supposed to be an example because no one died, right,
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you know, and if he had the right the right appearance with the
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right people, that time should be he should get a time cut and he
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should be able to discharge just from those crimes, because, like I say,
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nobody died. It's just a set. One is a second degree and
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I'm just now knowing that, and the other one is no murder. And
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it was a what a first degree? What he said? A first degree
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and a second degree? Yes, he's he's back with us and stuff.
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He's back with us, Glenn degree, What was from a second degree?
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Yes, So they gave you, they gave you time of a sentence of
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first degree, which second degree is is a is a lesser charge, but
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they gave you a max on it, which it don't even carry. Ninety
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six years. Yeah, he is that they judge, he said. The
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judge added enhancements on it. Enhancement on the enhancement. In the state of
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Oklahoma, enhancement ain't nothing but a stagnated charge which they charge you more like
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let's say you did the crime once, they're gonna charge you and sentence you
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like you repeatedly did it. They stacked his counts and made them all in
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one. Now all his charge did nothing get ran concurrent Hanker, Glenn,
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can you and your nephew where'd they what? What? What charge did they
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give you the life on? When they add the life on their which I
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had, I hadn't been in trouble in twenty two years. They went back
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twenty two years and got old cases back to the Oklahoma when I was a
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younger man, and found a bitual criment on me. That's why I got
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the life sentence, you know. And what makes my sentence illegal is that
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they used susan finding injury and dead new weapons in a private violence count.
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And the jury said no, that there was no source body injury and gifferent
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weapons. So my senate actually unauthorized by love. And I didn't find this
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until more till last year. You know, I was going to my legal
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violence and I found these very problems, you know, in my court records.
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And so I didn't find this until last year, you know, some
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twenty two years later. But you know, I'm convicted by use of elements
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but were unproven to a jury. Although they will presented to a jury,
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they didn't wint on what the jury said even though the jury had given a
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jury instruction family find that the prosecution failed to prove any one or more elements
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in any count beyond the reason of that, then you must find the defended
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guilty of that count. And so they used those elements anyway, although you
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have those verdict forms in black and white, where the jury said no,
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there was no there was no serious part of the injury, and there was
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no use for every weapon you have that you know in your possession. Now,
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that's what said. So, so this is illegal. And when I
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tried to address it myself, I was told that I had a thirty five
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C during the time within the time periods I was supposed to have one.
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And because I argued the United States Constitution owned my legal senates, that my
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notion could only be uh, it was only recognizable as a thirty if I
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see, and since I had one of success, so they denied. I
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was told by another attorney later, but my thirty five A claim was pull
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intact. He's turned the foul and I just I just can't afford an attorney,
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you know, So you know that's uh, that's that's kind of position
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I was left then. But yeah, that's That's what makes myself for legal
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you know, because look, the judge really, he really disregarded what the
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jury, what the jury said. The jury said no to two counts,
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and he gave for each one of them. Knows he gave you ninety six
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years, ninety six years even though the jury said no, wish that crime
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during the carrier years. No, he just gave us the the numbers on
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the crimes that that that's ninety six years. So this is my next question.
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I didn't want to throw the race in there, but yeah, offense
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to throw it on in there. Do you think that white person that the
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judge would have stacked him, would have gave him that amount of time for
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them charges? I said, the saufles are the judge not doing that all
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the time? You know what I mean when it comes to what my case
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was, you know, was a domestic violence you know, blew it.
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I'm proportioned and separated all of those charges and charged me with those different charges
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when it should not have been anything but a domestic violence charge. And I've
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seen you know, members of other race, you know what I mean when
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it comes to black and brown, you know, we're usually get maxed up
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for those kind of things that burb and beyond. You know, what the
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what the statue, what the law calls for, you know. And then
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there's those crime and violence prima violence citizen hanchers to do that, well,
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you know, the crime of violence, says to Hanser in my case is
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no good a couple. And they charged not only the charges that didn't have
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anything to do with a citizen enhancer, they enhanced all of my sentences under
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serious vomity, injury and deadly weapon. And if the jury said no,
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then none of those sentences are no good. And I don't understand. How
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can it stand? How can it stand? What was your legal representation?
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Like, where's a public's unders office? You know, I had money to
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get out of Vard, and I had a good job at that time twenty
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two years ago. You know, I was earning twenty six and fifty per
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cent. I will operate every equipment. Then I had the money to get
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out on bond, cash money to get out on Vard, but I couldn't
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get a barnsman in Colorado, you know, to take the barn because I'm
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from Oklahoma and they considered me to be a flight risk. You know,
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although I've never ran from anything in my life, you know. So that's
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how I got stuck to jail. And then I was represented by the Public
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Defender's Office, which the public defendent works for the DA. Well, you
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know, you gotta consideracy checks come from the same place, you know.
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Yeah, yeah. How long was you in Denver? How long? How
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long was you living in Denver before this incident took place. I had been
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out here one year. I came out here. I had a job in
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three days when I came out here, operating equipment. I came out by
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myself, you know. I got the an apartment and fundays a three bedroom
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apartment, a furnished apartment. Then I set back to Oklahoma and got my
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family and asked them out here. Mm hmm. And I did that in
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one much time. Mm hmm. I was a productive deficit, you know.
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You know, it's just you know, I spent a lot of time
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with my children, and so you know, I was a productive citizen.
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And and to be done that way, you know, I would have to
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absolutely say that race was a ball, you know. And this uh she
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had PI in charges of her own, but they opted not to bowl the
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charges against her and they never even and then the police department, you know,
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recommended that she need charged with as result and in debt for our son's
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death. But the district attorney that was prosecuting me took her from the courtroom
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that I was into another judge's courtroom, got her a bard reduced to a
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pr bard, and then went to the park attorney uh and uh to the
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antake consecutor, and he and her decided that they were not going to bring
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charges against her. You know, if she touched the pied against me,
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so testified they did that only because she was white. They did only because
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she was white. And back then it was racist going everywhere around as which
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it still stands today. Right for them to give him all of that time,
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that was just that was just it had to be a race card,
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because if it was a black on black crime, if he was with a
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black woman at that time, they wouldn't get aim all that time for being
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with no black woman, you know, when the DA would to stuck his
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neck out like he did to help her. If she was a black woman,
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they just seen a black man off in a small town, which they
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can do whatever they want to do with a white woman. And she gonna
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come in here and tell them everything that she wants them to know, and
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the ain't gonna fall for it, just because this black man was accused of
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doing it, and plus on top of that he had he had state issues
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in the criminal in the criminal justice in Oklahoma, and they pulled all of
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that up, which it would only they used the everything from he ain't been
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in trouble in twenty some years, which that should have been let go,
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you know, because it's a statutory on that you can be free from so
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many years and you can even get your sinas as oonerted and you don't have
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to worry about it no more, you know what I mean. But they
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don't even do that. After twenty two years of not being in no trouble,
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working and from being the age he was at the time, they didn't
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mind all of that. They just seen a black man with a white woman,
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okay, domestic we fit the hanging, which pretty much is what they
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did. You know. I hate to be frank with my words, you
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know, on live, but I'm sure it's white people listening in right now,
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and they know in the judicial system in every county it's racism involved.
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You know, you can't like in Oklahoma. You know, a black man
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get looked down on right now in the state of Oklahoma for being with a
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white woman. Even the black women look down on black men for being with
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white women. Everybody looked down on the black man for being with whatever he
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want to be with, only because you're black, you know. And even
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at the jobs, even at all my jobs, it's racism because if I
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was white, they would pay me way more from the experience work that I
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do than when I get paid now. And I understand that some things you
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gotta take within yourself just to go through the flow of the life, just
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to get by, you know, you raise hell, they gonna put you
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away, you know. So. And in that case, way up there
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where my uncle was at, that's what they did. And they knew he
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couldn't do nothing about it because he was on the court. He didn't have
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the right representation the district could turn, which is a public defender works in
34:05
the same office as the district attorney. They best friends, They probably grew
34:09
up together. They just wanted a conviction, didn't nobody hear my uncle al
34:15
to give you all that time and that crime don't even serve the basics of
34:23
that crime. That time don't serve the basics of that crime. You know.
34:29
I've been incocerated myself twice in my life. One was on a murder
34:35
case when I was seventeen years old, and that was prejudice. I would
34:38
have did fifteen years, which I had a jury trial of ten not guilty,
34:46
two guilty. You know, that should have been throwed out in the
34:52
state of Oklahoma. But no, I was seventeen years old. They didn't
34:57
throw that out. I still ended up with fifteen years, a mansla,
35:00
a murder dropped from a manslaughter one, and a shooting one intent to kill.
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Just drop completely all four. Okay, we got this black man.
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We got a conviction from this black man. They didn't have me. That
35:16
case was beatable. I got tired of sitting in the county jail for two
35:21
years of the way they was treating me. You know. So in every
35:24
quarter there is racism in every court, every state, and it's never gonna
35:34
stop. We just gotta keep fighting. And I hate that for my uncle
35:42
that they gave him all that time. You have anything any words to say,
35:46
mister Kemp, bow my head to my nephew. Here, know,
35:54
next one here. I do understand what he's saying, you know, in
35:59
exact way did I feel about what happened to me? Uh? I know
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that I didn't do anything to what you know, what what I've what I've
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been serving, you know all this time. You know what if my daughters
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you know, she told me, she said, Dad, you know they
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intend for you to die in there, you know. And so you know,
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and when I think of, you know what what I'm incarcerated for,
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you know, and the district attorney knew, you know what I mean.
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She was She was my children's mother passed away that forty seven years after I
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had been incarcerated for some drug overdose. You know, So this was never
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you know, me coming out and speaking now is never to disparage her in
36:40
any kind of way. Yes, I do not like what she did.
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And that's the reason why, you know, and I have to have to
36:46
fee accountable for my own actions, you know, for even putting my hand
36:51
on her, but putting my hand on her in the manner that I did,
36:54
you know, I just just didn't war or life since well, can
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I can I step in? M Yes? No, that the the sentence
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that they handed down, that the jet handed down. Was really was overkilled,
37:15
especially for an alleged broken nose. Alleged broken nose did nobody die.
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She didn't pass away until years later. But she was drugging your six month
37:29
old and he passed thee and it wasn't no no justice for him. So
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his life was meaningless towards an alleged broken nose. Yeah. And the reason
37:45
why I thought was a ledge broken nose was because you know, the the
37:51
detectives went to the hospel and got the doctor the sign of injur report saying
37:55
that there were breaking practice. Two weeks after the incident, the doctor signed
38:00
it, but then not several months after that, he emailed the district attorney
38:07
and told the disc attorney that I was mistaken when I signed that serious report
38:12
because there were no breaks and factors. I didn't take any X rays of
38:15
anything her her hands because her numbers were a little swollen and there were no
38:20
fractures or anything in her hands. And so a week before trial, the
38:24
mister attorney went back to the hospital and talked to the doctor and she ambushed
38:29
me a trial with the doctor as an expert witness, and he hadn't even
38:32
received his licensed as a doctor yet he had just taken his finished his test,
38:42
and he hadn't even received you know, his credentials as a doctor yet
38:45
at that time. And so she ambushed me. She went to the hospital
38:51
and talked to him a week before trial, and he came, you have
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justified at my trial and said that in his opinion, even though nose was
39:00
never mentioned in the medical report at all, Well, well, never any
39:04
treatment, you know, treatment you know for a broken nose, you know,
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given you know, and you know, he said that in his opinion.
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Now after the fact, you know, a year later, you know,
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her nose was spoken. And so I'm here on a book of nose
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you know that was manufactured by the district attorney and the doctor. Wow wow,
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and then LED's broken nose. Nose and they said you to a hundred
39:37
in years plus life. But they made but they made you eligible for parole.
39:47
Yeah, with the with the possibility of parole. They didn't say,
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yeah, thank you for using Securus. Good line. This this is a
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little too much. Yeah, that's sad. This is a this is a
40:06
little sad. And I don't know, I don't even know if his crime
40:13
is I wonder, what's the percentage, like he said, eighty five percent,
40:19
sixty five percent, thirty three percent. Now, if it was thirty
40:24
three percent back then, he would have had to twenty two years of being
40:31
a concrated. Right now, he still ain't discharged one of those ninety six
40:37
year sentences. He still ain't came up for parole on those ninety six year
40:45
sentences. I believe if it's not eighty five percent like in the first twelve
40:52
years, in the first twelve years, he should have made parole on one
40:57
of those ninety six year sentences. Here it is twenty three years later and
41:06
he haven't made parole any one of the sentences. No one, it's the
41:15
is I met you the same right now? No? I think the judge
41:22
it is retired, are no longer here because I do. I do.
41:29
I do look up the judges in the DA. I do do a lot
41:34
of research before on their on the cases. They send me information and I
41:40
do talk talk to them, you know, to get some insight on what's
41:45
going on. Glenn. We was just wondering, what is the percentage have
41:52
you been up for parole for any of the ninety six years? Oh?
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No, Relegate, it's way off or something like that twenty one forty three
42:07
on that ninety six years saying it, and so they gave you is it?
42:10
Did they what what she asking? I think is did they consider your
42:15
crime violent? And do they y'all have the statue of limitations of eighty five
42:22
percent? You know because down here it's like, well back then, they
42:28
didn't start changing those laws until March of two thousand and three or I think
42:36
two thousand and four, which they made a crime of burglary murder, assault
42:45
with a dangerous weapon a simple bessult assault is not violent. Assault with the
42:51
dangerous weapon is violent, which would be eighty five percent. They changed a
42:54
lot of those laws everywhere back then. But did they tell you your crime
43:00
was thirty three per Huh? It's seventy four s out here, seventy it's
43:15
seventy five percent out here. And again, what makes my sentence illegal?
43:21
It's five sentence enhancement? Is that that's a Republicans say Democrat Texas laws.
43:39
Yeah, they they using you know if if if if you're using for every
43:53
crime, it's seventy five percent. That's what texts is due Texas gotta I
44:00
don't care what you do in Texas. You can be cause selling we or
44:06
any drugs. If you get incarcerated, you're gonna do eighty five percent.
44:12
They basically running like the FIDS and after eighty five percent, So ain't nothing
44:21
lower than seventy five percent of parma? Yeah? Soon. The only two
44:29
elements of parmenent vious of mandatory citizens for parma violence is serched by the injury
44:35
and bed the use of a deer the weapon. Those are the elements that
44:37
they have to prove to charge you with mandatory sentencing for charma violence. The
44:45
jury said no to both of those elements, but they used it anyway,
44:50
you know, Yeah, because you didn't have Hell, they didn't have no
44:52
deadly weapons and didn't nobody die. No, No, that's judge. That
45:04
judge was prejudiced. Yeah, yeah, that judge was prejudiced. Two.
45:15
Yeah, probably pretty much still in the slavery days. You know that judge
45:20
was just prejudice. He wasn't going off of what the jury said. Basically,
45:25
they rail roaded my uncle. Yes, they rail roaded you. They
45:34
knew you didn't have the right representation pretty much vulgar words. They hung you
45:44
and they getting paid off of you. They gave you all that time,
45:46
because every day you in there, they get money off of you. And
45:55
they when they gave you that time, they had than their brain. This
46:00
black man gonna die off of our county, you know what all that time.
46:08
You know, they're not even passing out time like that in the state
46:13
of Oklahoma. But it depends on what crime that you have. There was
46:20
no death, There was no no aggressive weapon which they have on fould that
46:28
he committed trying to kill this woman. There was nothing but a butt from
46:34
the hand, a black eye, and a bloody nose to get one hundred
46:39
and ninety two years. One hundred and ninety two mother. Doctor. You
46:45
know, the doctor said, the doctor about a trial at the part of
46:50
the you know the thirty and look, you know the shit there when he
46:54
bruises, you know, any kind of mark on ahead of anywhere on her
47:00
though she had been hit for any kind of object that had any kind of
47:05
edge it or anything. You know that you just didn't find anything. You
47:08
know, he testified anything, He even testified like you said that don't weren't
47:14
no fraxious practice. And then you come back and then you're O. You
47:17
that's break. That's the end of the truck. It really doesn't no mean
47:25
to cut you off, Glenn. It don't make no sense. I wouldn't
47:30
curve you stolen in, not the two fountain. It's still not worth no
47:34
ninety two year sentence. I don't care if you grabbed it by her and
47:39
snatched a piece of hair out, It's still not worth a man's life.
47:50
You know. I wasn't trying to be quiet over here, but I just
47:53
can't be quiet. I just can't. I just can't be quiet because queen.
48:02
But I sit over here and I listen, and then I I'm listening
48:06
to this. This all this was racially motivated. Number one, These people,
48:12
these people, And I don't care, I'm gonna say it. I
48:14
don't care what they think, because I know what. It was racially motivated.
48:20
They were intended on throwing the book after you. They did not.
48:24
They don't want you to see the light of day. They don't on you
48:29
only because that woman was white. Only because she was white. That is
48:34
the reason why. And I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you because
48:36
I was shot. I'm shot. Yet the man is free. Yes,
48:44
this happened in two thousand, just happened in two thousand fourteen. Yes,
48:47
the man is free and has had another charge since the charge and he had
48:52
on me and it's free again. That's what I'm saying. You tell me,
48:57
You tell me now. In the state of Texas, just happened.
49:00
This just happened. White man shot killed his wife on camera, told her
49:07
that she was getting ready to meet her maker. Don't you know they gave
49:10
him one man ten years and send him to a mental health program ten years
49:16
and send him to a mental health program because years old, because he were
49:22
sixty years though, you know, and and I'm gonna tell you as it
49:27
is right now. If you going to them courts, if you ain't white,
49:30
you ain't right. If you ain't got no money, if you ain't
49:35
got the right representation, you going down bottom line, right. You know,
49:39
I can't I can't speak no other way, do what I already know.
49:45
And that's what they did to my uncle. And back then, racism
49:47
was at an all time high. Often your jurisdictions in your small counties.
49:53
We ain't nowhere. People failed, well that is realized it It never went
50:00
anywhere. It ain't nowhere. They just do it in a different form now
50:06
they just I mean they openly do it. They you know, because look
50:09
it, look it here, like you said, they took the change from
50:17
around all that and they just moved them to our ankles in our hands.
50:22
No, you like, like as a black man, you walking around in
50:28
this place with with like invisible change right now, Like I got change on
50:32
me right now and I'm free. You see what I'm saying. Walking out
50:39
your door every day, you take a risk every day, by the grace
50:45
of the by the grace of the Lord, you make it back home from
50:50
your day, going to work, whatever you do, going to the store,
50:53
it's a major risks only because the skin of your color. And it's
50:59
bad. You know, modern day slavery is still alive in the country,
51:05
the whole country. If you work and if you got a job, you
51:09
modern day slavery. Bottom line, you can't get over it. And what
51:14
these people is doing. Like I bet you in that county right now.
51:20
You know, a lot of people don't know it, but in every county
51:23
it is more whites locked up than blacks. You know, because I only
51:30
know this because I've did my research in every county and a whole bunch of
51:36
these whites that they got locked up they've given them help, but ninety percent
51:42
of the blacks don't get no help period. And now when passing this time
51:47
out for the white people, they getting a slap on the wrist. If
51:52
you black, you fit to go for thirty, You fina go for fifty.
51:58
We just gonna go and get you the way and let this white dude
52:00
that just killed ten thirty of y'all and put him back on the streets to
52:06
do it again. We find have put this white man back out here to
52:08
wait thirty or forty or fifty kids and get him five years, take him
52:15
to a couple of programs and let him back out. And this is what
52:19
they doing. But if the black man do it one time, it's a
52:23
rap. It's over with. And that's what they did to my uncle,
52:28
you know. And from the time he did get in trouble back a long
52:32
time ago, that was in the seventies, they didn't even have the laws
52:37
that they had now. They didn't have even had a long they sentenced him
52:45
to this one hundred and ninety two years that they got now, you know,
52:50
And with the laws they bringing in now, it's only making it harder
52:54
for him to get out and making us have to go so much to even
53:00
and help him to send him home. Bottom line, these white folks got
53:06
the game and gone with it, and they taking the blacks do everything.
53:10
And that's just that, you know. And if if, if, if
53:15
I offend anybody on line, I don't mean you, but I mean the
53:22
truth is the truth, and the truth will make you free. I mean,
53:24
you know it's the truth, and they know they're doing wrong. And
53:29
this is my uncle, and I wanted I want him to come home.
53:32
Hell, he taught me more than my own father in life than ever taught
53:37
me. You know. I had my bumps and roads and in prison a
53:42
couple of times or whatever. But I got out this time from almost doing
53:45
ten years, and I made it right with me and my kids, you
53:50
know what I mean. And now that I'm living right, it's I still
53:54
see evil like I still got friends, small cases gone for the rest of
54:00
their life. Ain't nobody died. I still see the racism around everywhere,
54:07
you know, at the job everywhere. And I got a job to where
54:12
I get paid pretty good, but the young white men come in, he
54:15
get a pet a position in a better pay. You see what I'm saying.
54:20
And I'm and I got the same creditions as him, you know what
54:23
I mean. But like you say, if you ain't white, you ain't
54:27
right. Often the judicial system in in Oklahoma, you know, we're supposed
54:32
to be God people. You know, they tell you about the history of
54:37
the Bible, which is falsified. But these courts ain't falsified. If you
54:43
don't play by their rules, you gone, bottom line, right, And
54:49
that's just it's just sad man. And I pray did my uncle come home
54:58
because he didn't deserve to. He didn't deserve it. And that's just that.
55:05
And hopefully you know someone out there can that here's this can put him
55:13
in touch with someone that can that can help him because this time for him
55:17
to come home, he don't serve more than his fair time in there or
55:23
an alleged broken broken his Let me say that didn't get just can I please
55:34
say one thing, okay, audience, that every if y'all took me offended,
55:39
let me get this clear. All white people is not racist. All
55:46
white people, fifty percent of white people is fair. Like I got white
55:52
friends, you know, down to earth people. I love white people.
55:55
You are not racist. But I just wanted to say that to the audience
56:06
because I don't you know, probably some of the things I did say my
56:10
uncle's behalf is that I don't want to come off like being a racist black
56:16
dude, because I'm not racist. I just see it is what it is,
56:21
and if you have lived a life that I lived, you would probably
56:24
see from my point of view of what I'm seeing and take it different than
56:29
what you probably already then took it as white people is racist, which is
56:35
not true. So I just needed to put that out there, just on
56:39
our as a black man that's not racist, that every white person is not
56:45
racist. You got people from different tribes, you got people from different states
56:50
that still believe in the black men. Ain't she it? You know what
56:54
I mean? And they ain't gonna always feel like that because they grow their
56:58
kids up to feel like that you better than him, you see what I'm
57:01
saying. So I just felt to say that, well, and I appreciate
57:08
you. You just spoke from the heart, and that's what we need people
57:13
more people like you to peak up on behalf of their family. Well,
57:19
we're over our limits. And I really enjoyed the conversation with Johnny Kemp and
57:27
Glean Kemp lend is currently incorporated in the state of Denver, serving one hundred
57:34
and ninety two years plus life. Something that you want. Yeah, thank
57:42
you guys for joining us again tonight. I have a bonus show coming.
57:49
I believe it is March twenty seven, where are a young man our Med
57:55
Nims will be joining me. He's currently incarcerated in Denver and he has a
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nice story. So thank you guys for tuning tuning in again tonight. I'm
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here on the first and third Monday of each month. Have a blessed night,
58:17
and remember speak up even if your voice is shaking. Love you and
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have a blessed that's weak. Thank all things ain't busy. Were having all
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