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The Bolt Report | 27 March · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: He's the gold reform it and the fireworks begin in
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  Speaker 1: just half an hour. Peter didn't give a speech that
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  Speaker 1: could win him the election against all the odds, and
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  Speaker 1: you'll see it right here. It's the opposition leader's reply
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  Speaker 1: to the budget. And you know already that's got Prime
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  Speaker 1: Minister Anthony Albanize worried. And you know that because the
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  Speaker 1: Labor's already leaking that ALBANIZI will call the election tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: instead of waiting as expected until Sunday. In fact, I
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  Speaker 1: suspect Albanize's own department might even have made a deliberate
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  Speaker 1: mistake this morning when it posted that the governor was
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  Speaker 1: in caretakingm ote already and then said I'm sorry, I
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  Speaker 1: had deleted it just four minutes later. Guys, we heard
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  Speaker 1: your dog whistle or the ship's siren. To be honest, now,
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  Speaker 1: Albany is he calling the election tomorrow means that the
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  Speaker 1: TV news bulletins tonight and the papers tomorrow will talk
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  Speaker 1: more about that than what Dutton is going to say tonight.
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  Speaker 1: And I would say it's no wonder that Albanieze would
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  Speaker 1: like that to be to the SEW because I think
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  Speaker 1: it's worried Duntan is obviously holding back something big for
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  Speaker 1: his speech tonight. But what is already foreshadow today is
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  Speaker 1: a tax cut that will match or nearly the labor
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  Speaker 1: tax cut in its budget on Tuesday. But it's not
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  Speaker 1: a cut in income tax. Dunton's instead promising one year
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  Speaker 1: cut next susan petrol twenty five cents a later off
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  Speaker 1: save you about forteen dollars each time you fill up
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  Speaker 1: a full tank.
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  Speaker 2: People will be your net terms better off under us
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  Speaker 2: because overall, in their family budgets they'll be paying less taxes.
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  Speaker 1: Now, obviously this is not the tax reform I wanted
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  Speaker 1: the country needs. It's not even the tax cut I suggested,
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  Speaker 1: which I would have thought, you know, double the government's
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  Speaker 1: five dollars a week off and boast hay out cut
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  Speaker 1: is bigger. Case closed. On the other hand, there is
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  Speaker 1: one big difference between Labour's cut and the Coalitions. The
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  Speaker 1: cost Dutton's cut to petrol exise is eleven billion dollars cheaper,
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  Speaker 1: which gives him room tonight to promise something else, something big.
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  Speaker 1: As for voters, a Dutton's cut may just give more
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  Speaker 1: bang for the buck. Albany, his tax cut is so
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  Speaker 1: small just five dollars a week, and it won't come
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  Speaker 1: crucial point until fifteen months from now, and then it'll
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  Speaker 1: take another year before it's followed by another five dollars
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  Speaker 1: a week. In contrast, Dutton is one year cutting petrol
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  Speaker 1: exis will start straight away, instant relief, and it will
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  Speaker 1: save most people almost as much money in one year
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  Speaker 1: anyway as Albanese as will in the next three years
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  Speaker 1: when and then, of course there'll be another election, more
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  Speaker 1: tax promises, and we can start all over again. Dunton
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  Speaker 1: claims his cut will save the average motorists including pensioners,
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  Speaker 1: about seven hundred to seven hundred fifty dollars a year. Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's see, Labour's tax cuts will save taxpayers but not pensioners,
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  Speaker 1: just a few dollars more over the next three years,
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  Speaker 1: this say, eight hundred and four dollars, so really not
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  Speaker 1: that much difference. But that's not all. Actually, cheaper petrol
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  Speaker 1: and diesel also means cheaper transport costs for businesses, which
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  Speaker 1: then can keep their prices lower for consumers, so there's
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  Speaker 1: another saving. And cut to petrol prices will give most
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  Speaker 1: help to motorists in outer city and country seats drive
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  Speaker 1: more and those tend to be the seats that the
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  Speaker 1: Liberals really really want to do well in. So that
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  Speaker 1: may be why the Treasurer of this morning looks stressed
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  Speaker 1: even while insisting his tax cut was better.
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  Speaker 2: If Peter Dutton wins the election, Australians will earn less
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  Speaker 2: and keep less of what they earn.
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  Speaker 1: Yet Jim Chalmers the same blow three years ago, thought
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  Speaker 1: cutting petrol exos was actually a good idea whether then
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  Speaker 1: liberal government wanted to do it.
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  Speaker 2: So the twenty two cents a leader fuel excise cut,
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  Speaker 2: you support it, yeah, but it's bad policy, isn't it. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's bad policy to support people through
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  Speaker 2: difficult times. You know, the fact that petrol prices have
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  Speaker 2: been through the roof has been a break on the
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  Speaker 2: economy and it's made it harder for families who are
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  Speaker 2: already dealing with real wages going backwards. You know, one
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  Speaker 2: of the defining features of this government for almost ten
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  Speaker 2: years now is stagnant wages, families finding it harder to
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  Speaker 2: make ends meet. We've got a responsibility to do the
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  Speaker 2: right thing by.
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  Speaker 1: That couldn't say better. So that's why the Alberneze government
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  Speaker 1: is our screaming election. Look over here, election, elects, election,
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  Speaker 1: don't look over there at Dutton's promise and this one
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  Speaker 1: other thing that's going to worry the Prime Minister and
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  Speaker 1: give Dutton hope. I know Labour said, look more cocker
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  Speaker 1: hoop in Parliament today than the Coalition. But it has
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  Speaker 1: been assumed that there's six seats that the Liberals lost
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  Speaker 1: to the Teal Climate Party. Let's not call them independence.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's a fraud the Teal Party the last selection.
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  Speaker 1: It was assumed that we're lost to the Liberals for
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  Speaker 1: years to come. But a new JWS poll admitedly with
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  Speaker 1: a small sample size, shows that Teals Zoey Daniel in
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  Speaker 1: huge trouble in the Melbo Seed of Goldstone forty six
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  Speaker 1: percent after preferences to form a Liberal MP, Tim Wilson's
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  Speaker 1: fifty four and in nearby Couyong Minie ran cleaning on
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  Speaker 1: by just fifty forty nine against Liberal challenger Emelia Hamer.
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  Speaker 1: But then again, that poll was taken before Ryan made
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  Speaker 1: a fool of herself, before her husband was caught stealing
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  Speaker 1: one of Hamer's Liberal posters that belongs to me. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: you can take it off the property. But it belongs
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  Speaker 1: to me.
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  Speaker 3: If it goes back up, it'll be taken down again.
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  Speaker 1: Was also taken before Ryan was then filmed angrily snubbing
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  Speaker 1: journalists who asked her about her husband's theft. Could you
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  Speaker 1: please get your cameras away from me? And pole was
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  Speaker 1: taken before even more ryan embarrassment today news that her
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  Speaker 1: staff and volunteers were instructed in a training video to
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  Speaker 1: call her doctor Ryan. It's really really important to use
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  Speaker 1: the term doctor Manique Ryan.
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  Speaker 4: We want people to know that she's a doctor.
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  Speaker 1: Now. That didn't impress some locals today.
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  Speaker 3: If she wants to be a doctor, go back to
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  Speaker 3: the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: Now. What's also cause costing the teals and labor support
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  Speaker 1: is cost of leaving poul about that Australians getting poorer.
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  Speaker 1: The economy is struggling, and once again that clues people
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  Speaker 1: in Ryan's life. Kuyong, there are.
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  Speaker 5: Twenty eight shops vacant between High Street and Model Tary Road.
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  Speaker 1: So we're all set now tomorrow for tomorrow and for
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  Speaker 1: a campaign that's going to decide whether Anthony abernez It
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  Speaker 1: will be the first Prime minister in ninety four years
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  Speaker 1: to lose an election after serving just one term, the
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  Speaker 1: term in which he has made Australians poorer and not richer.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the fact, not as tiny tax cut. That's
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  Speaker 1: the thing that's going to be the real issue. Join
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  Speaker 1: me now is my Thursday regular Barnaby Joyce, the Nationals
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  Speaker 1: front bencher and former Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Jewyce good
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  Speaker 1: to see and leaving aside, all have said it remains
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  Speaker 1: the fact that the Coalition has voted against a tax cut.
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  Speaker 1: Does that embarrass.
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  Speaker 5: You No, because I think we have to call it
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  Speaker 5: for exactly what it is. This is the political art
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  Speaker 5: of the most cunning and shrewd thesbian to offer you
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  Speaker 5: five dollars a week or was that eighty cents a
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  Speaker 5: day or there about seventy eighty cents a day and
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  Speaker 5: to say now I approven your impurity and my divinity
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  Speaker 5: because of what you just did to me. You know,
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  Speaker 5: it's caught for what it is. It's ridiculous. It's a trinket.
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  Speaker 5: And what we have to say to the Australian people
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  Speaker 5: is in their quest for this sort of intermittent nirvana,
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  Speaker 5: intermitted power, where you're going to be paying multiples of
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  Speaker 5: that a day, multiples of that a day because they
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  Speaker 5: have to worship the great God Geia at Paris and
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  Speaker 5: say all the appropriate things to achieve their twenty thirty
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  Speaker 5: eighty two percent into minted target.
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  Speaker 1: That's what's going to hurt you.
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  Speaker 5: That's what's going to hurt you. And I think that's
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  Speaker 5: really but I'm interrupted.
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  Speaker 1: I'm interrupting you because you could go on for another
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  Speaker 1: couple of minutes arguing this point. But the thing is,
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  Speaker 1: you could have answered it in one second if you said, well,
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  Speaker 1: our tax cuts are bigger, this is the issue. But
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  Speaker 1: they're not right, and that's the that's the problem you're
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  Speaker 1: going to have in selling it. There's another problem here.
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  Speaker 1: The government's tax cut is now law. Parliament voted for
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  Speaker 1: it yesterday. The Shadow Treasurer today said, well, a coalition government,
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  Speaker 1: if elected, is going to repeal that tax cut to
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  Speaker 1: offer this petrol excize instead. Vatama, can you tell me
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  Speaker 1: in what planet will any parliament, any Senate vote to
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  Speaker 1: repeal a tax cut. That's fantasy, isn't it.
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  Speaker 5: I believe that the focus of all treasurers finance ministers
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  Speaker 5: will always be on the those who are the most
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  Speaker 5: vulnerable and how they managed, how we managed to keep
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  Speaker 5: dignity in their lives by keeping catching their wallet, and
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  Speaker 5: with a cut in excise, it allows them. Because we've
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  Speaker 5: got to remember, poor people live the furthest away from
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  Speaker 5: the services. That's why the houses are cheaper, or the
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  Speaker 5: rents are cheaper, and even those rents in those houses
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  Speaker 5: they can't afford. And the cars they drive are not
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  Speaker 5: the better cars. So to offer a reprieve and excise
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  Speaker 5: for a period is a lot more efficacious and looking
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  Speaker 5: after people who are doing it tough than offering them
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  Speaker 5: whatever they is.
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  Speaker 1: Seventy five and it comes to day, and it'll come
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  Speaker 1: a year earlier than the labor's mostly tax cut. I've
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  Speaker 1: got all that. I'm just saying, there's no Senate they're
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  Speaker 1: ever going to say no, we're going to repeal a
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  Speaker 1: tax cut. Is it? Well, I'm not here to talk.
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  Speaker 5: I've been a senator eight years, seven months in a day,
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  Speaker 5: and vague and various things they can be. But I've
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  Speaker 5: seen some marvelous things go through the Senate and some
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  Speaker 5: rather brilliant ideas never progress. So I'll leave the peculiarities
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  Speaker 5: and the embrolios which is our nation's Senate, to those
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  Speaker 5: wonderful senators and to the people who pop up from
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  Speaker 5: Tasmania with a couple of thousand votes and somehow end
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  Speaker 5: up running having a management job in our nation. But
• 11:20
  Speaker 5: what we what I do know is that the overall
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  Speaker 5: narrative has got to be one of are you really
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  Speaker 5: truly reaching out to those who are doing it tough
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  Speaker 5: in a cost of living crisis, the porous, those who
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  Speaker 5: are struggling and offering them something meaningful. Look look at
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  Speaker 5: your life. What do you think has happened in the
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  Speaker 5: last three years? Do you honestly believe that where we
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  Speaker 5: have arrived is a better place than where you were
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  Speaker 5: three years ago?
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  Speaker 1: See? The other issue is the debt right that this
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  Speaker 1: government has wracked up. You think, how do they treat
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  Speaker 1: public finances with such contempt the spending? And I thought, well,
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  Speaker 1: here's an example of this mindset in this Canberra bubble
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  Speaker 1: under this government. We had someone from the one of
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  Speaker 1: the government departments front up to a Senate committee yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and say, hello, we have been admitting this to this
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  Speaker 1: We have spent thirty five thousand dollars Barnaby to design
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: a prototype desk that you can sit at and also
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: work out standing up a desk that's now actually in storage,
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  Speaker 1: when in fact you or I can buy one on
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  Speaker 1: the internet. In fact, my wife has bought one on
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  Speaker 1: the internet for five hundred and sixty two dollars, not
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  Speaker 1: thirty five thousand dollars, just five hundred and sixty two dollars.
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  Speaker 1: And it's only now dawning on that government department. This
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  Speaker 1: prototype desk might be a waste of our money. Here
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  Speaker 1: she is.
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  Speaker 4: We will need to look through our Capital Works program
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  Speaker 4: about issues like this to think about if that cost
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  Speaker 4: is something that's sustainable, and other provide something that members
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  Speaker 4: and senators want to need.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Right there, Barnaby proofs that the most expensive way to
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  Speaker 1: get anything done and still have it not work will
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  Speaker 1: be used is to ask the government, isn't.
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  Speaker 5: It isn't it amazing how you can always be a
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  Speaker 5: big man at the sale yards with another man's checkbook.
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: They as they say, it's easy to be a big person.
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: Let's call a man a new to gender term. But
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: it's easy to be big when you're using someone else's money.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's you can buy all sorts of marvelous
• 13:30
  Speaker 5: presents with someone else's credit card. And if you said
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  Speaker 5: to that individual, you just had then how about we
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: take it out of your wage, thirty five thousand dollars
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  Speaker 5: for a glorified school desk. I wonder if she would
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: have said, no, no, you're not taking twenty five thousand
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  Speaker 5: dollars off me for a glorified school desk. But they
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  Speaker 5: did it with your money because they believe they can.
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  Speaker 5: And that's that same methodology and the same IQ that
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  Speaker 5: runs through the whole show, right up to your to
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  Speaker 5: your wind house and your whole panels. And that's why
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: you got to watch out. That's why you've got to
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: be so concerned. I was sacked the Shadow Finance Minister
• 14:08
  Speaker 5: back in twenty ten, in the glory days of my
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  Speaker 5: first admission to the shadow Cabinet, because I had temerity
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  Speaker 5: to say that the debt when it passed one hundred
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: billion dollars, was on a bad trajectory and Cook was
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: going to get us into all sorts of strife. It
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  Speaker 5: might even go past a half a trillion dollars. And
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: I had my bottom booted out. Bang and mister Raddal, Oh, wow,
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  Speaker 5: the Secretary of the Treasury in the rby, Oh, he's outrageous,
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: he's outrageous. Well, ladies and gentlemen, it's just gone through
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  Speaker 5: a trillion, right, and it's heading north at a rate
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  Speaker 5: of knots.
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  Speaker 1: Going to be Jewish. Good to talk to you, and
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  Speaker 1: good luck with the campaign, Thank you very much. And
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  Speaker 1: after the break Donald Trump's signal scandal, this is a
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  Speaker 1: medium beat out because really there is actually a much
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  Speaker 1: bigger worry to tell you about, plus Peter Dutton's by
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  Speaker 1: now before we crossed through Parliament for Peter Dutton's a
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  Speaker 1: big budget speech to more trouble in Donald Trump's administration.
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  Speaker 1: Now the media is in hysterics over a yes, admittedly
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  Speaker 1: idiotic mistake by Trump's national security advisor Mike Wallaz. He
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  Speaker 1: somehow included a left wing journalist who hates Donald Trump
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: to a chat on Signal a group chat, a signal
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  Speaker 1: being an encrypted messaging app, along with almost all Trump's
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  Speaker 1: top national security and intelligence official as vice president, his
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  Speaker 1: Secretary of State, is CIA chief is Director of National Intelligence,
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  Speaker 1: and more. And on this group chat, these people were
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  Speaker 1: talking about bombing Iranian BacT hootie rebels and Yemen. Now,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: the leaked posts included one from the Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth,
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  Speaker 1: which where is actually given the exact times when missiles
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: and drones and warplanes would be unleashed on Yemen. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if these messages have been in sucepted immediately, that have
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  Speaker 1: given the hooties time to hide or prepare air defenses
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. But Heatn said, there's still pretending this wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a gross security breach. Nobody's texting war plans.
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  Speaker 3: There's no units, no locations, no routes, no flight paths.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's a liar there. All the same. This seems
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  Speaker 1: to me actually just a stupid mistake that is soon
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  Speaker 1: fixed and far more dangerous, which isn't getting the attention.
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  Speaker 1: It's something I've warned about when Trump attacked Ukraine and
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  Speaker 1: its president and he said treated Russian President Vladimir Putin
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  Speaker 1: as a friend while Trump was trying to negotiate an
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  Speaker 1: end too Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Now, I predicted that
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  Speaker 1: trashing Ukraine would just encourage Putin people with very a
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: number of Trump fans watching and apologize again for going
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  Speaker 1: on this. We're upset with me. But Putin we're now
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  Speaker 1: seeing exactly what I've warned about. Putin has only rejected
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  Speaker 1: Trump's call for a thirty day cease fire. He's now said, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll agree to a temporary cease fire, but only in
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  Speaker 1: the Black Sea, because that, by the way, is where
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  Speaker 1: Ukrainian drones have been sinking Russian warships and chasing them away.
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  Speaker 1: And Putin has demanded in exchange for what's actually advantaged
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  Speaker 1: to him, that the world first drops sanctions on Russian
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  Speaker 1: banks and agricultural exports and all. That's on top of
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  Speaker 1: Putin's earlier demand that Ukraine hand over five of its regions.
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  Speaker 1: This is a dictator who's not negotiating a ceasefire. He's
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: demanding a total surrender of Ukraine because Trump has looked
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  Speaker 1: like he'd rather betray Ukraine than fight for it. Joining
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  Speaker 1: me is Shawn Spicer, Trump's first White House spokesman, Shawn Spicer.
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  Speaker 1: This leaked chat on signal President Trump was clearly not happier,
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  Speaker 1: though wearing the mask. His team is claiming no classified
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  Speaker 1: information of war plans were released, but that said, the
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  Speaker 1: Defense Secretary's posted this chat did include the timings of
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  Speaker 1: when warplanes missile and drones we're individually taking off of
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: being fired. How big a mistake is this, Well.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I've been around classified information for almost three decades.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a couple issues here. The first one is
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  Speaker 3: the platform acceptable. What the CIA director has said is
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  Speaker 3: that signal, which is that messaging platform that they're talking about,
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  Speaker 3: was installed on their computers and their devices by the government,
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  Speaker 3: so therefore that's okay. Then the next question is was
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  Speaker 3: their classified information. Look, I think there's a difference between
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  Speaker 3: sensitive and sloppy and classified talking about the timing of
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: an action. Is it necessarily classified? I'd say it's sensitive,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: it's not helpful, it's sloppy, But in and of itself,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: to say something's going to happen at two o'clock without
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  Speaker 3: any particular targeting information or location information is really what
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  Speaker 3: makes it classified. So you know, the President has said
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  Speaker 3: that they're going to learn from this and move forward.
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  Speaker 3: I hope that that's the case. And I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the bigger issue here is, again remember whether it was
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  Speaker 3: on signal or anything else, the question is why was
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  Speaker 3: a journalist brought into the group? So you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: sort of getting lost in the discussion because you could
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  Speaker 3: be at the highest levels of classification if you bring
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  Speaker 3: somebody into the conversation. That's the biggest problem.
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  Speaker 1: Oh sure, is it's astonishing that the cream. So speak
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: of President Trump's security apparatus, there not one of the masters.
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  Speaker 1: Who's this other guy in their chat group? Not one,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: it's just amazing National Security advisor Mike Woltz. Well, he's
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  Speaker 1: the one that added this journalist. He said, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know him from Adam, yet somehow included him. The President
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: did defend Mike Waltz, but he did also suggest he's
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: smart en up and not do this sort of stuff. Again,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: how much trouble is Waltz.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: In, you know, Andrew? The way I think of this
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: is if this goes on for another two days and
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: another shoe drops, right, So, for example, Mike Waltz has
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: said I don't know the guy, and if there were, say,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: and here's the other thing. Just to be clear, Jeffrey Goldberg,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: the scumbag journalist that put this out, if he were,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: he's already admitted he's into you know, seeing him at
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: a couple parties over the last several years, but definitely
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: not in the last couple of years, so he corroborates that. Now,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: if there were some kind of text chain or something
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: like that that showed differently, I think that would be
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: an issue. But as far as I can tell. Look,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Trump's probably more upset that it was Jeffrey Greenberg more
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: than anything else. And so what I think is going
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: to happen is if this story doesn't get any additional oxygen,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: which it looks like it's over, then my guess is
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: by the weekend, Waltz is in good shape. He's supposed
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: to be headed on this trip with the Vances to Greenland,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: which I'm probably guessing that he's excited just to go
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: to Greenland or frankly anywhere in the world that's not
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: the White House right now, just to get away. And
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: so look, if he can get to Monday, I think
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: he's probably fine.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: He raised an interesting possibility there, maybe Trump wants Greenland
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: to be America Siberia where you send eron officials.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: But you know, the bigger question is is he going
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: to Greenland? It's is he coming back from Greenland?
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, very good question, very good question. Sure, I tend
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to agree with you that after this weekend, you know,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: noble end right, they'll learn they'll fix one with hope.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: To me, far more concern is the story that got
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: very little play, and that is Vladimir Putin doing exactly
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: what I predicted exactly what I feared, delaying and delaying
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: saying yes the presidency is fire proposal, fearing that Donald
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Trump wants to wash his hands of Ukraine anyway after
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the way he's been treating it, which I thought it
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: was a mistake. Putin's the latest demand is or a
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: ceasefire just in the Black Sea, only in the Black Sea,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to stop Ukraine attacking Russian shipping is driven the Russia's
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: navy out of the Black Sea and exchanged for just
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the ceasefire there, putting one's wistern sanctions on Russia a
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: lot of them to be dropped. How long before President
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Trump loses patience with Russia and not Ukraine.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I think the broader question is is the ball moving
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: forward right? And does Putin abuse some of these incremental
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: steps forward? So if Putin were to do something to
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: undermine the trust that I think is being shown to him,
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: the deference that is being shown him, then I think
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Trump's going to lose his mind because he sees the
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: same media that you and I read, and if he
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: is seen as Putin taking advantage of him, He's not
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: going to stand for that. I mean, that's just I
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: think Trump wants a deal. You're absolutely right, But I
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: think if he feels like Putin is taking advantage of
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: him in some way, he's going to retaliate economically, militarily,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: something like that. Maybe it's you know, commercially, but I
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: think that there's no question that so far, at least,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: we're making incremental progress towards peace. It may not be huge,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: it may be something you know, a little more than
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Putin wants, but so far it sounds like Ukraine is
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: okay with this. I just again, I'm all for this.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: It's sort of like the old Reagan adage, trust but verify.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: So if we have to take some baby steps forward,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. But I share your concern. If
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Putin tries to take advantage of the situation, I think
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Trump's going to.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: Lose his mind.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I think he's already taken advantage of it. Ukraine
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: is not happy with dropping the sanctions in exchange for
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: being stopped from keeping Russian bullshits out of the Black Sea.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I mean he is playing it is, you know, offering
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: almost nothing on many things have advantaged to Russia, and
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: it's changed for massive concessions. I reckon that game has
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: been got to be called out very very soon, but
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: sewn space we shall see. Things are changing so fast
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: you have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow. Thank
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: you so much for your time you've had, sir, take care. Okay,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: So now we're going to go in a second or
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: a minute and a bit to Peter Dutton to so
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: what's been called the speech of his life. I think
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: that's actually not quite true. I thought the thing that
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: he's done that really set the tone and put him
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: back in the race made the Liberals go from unelectable
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: what two and a half years ago to ride in
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the race right now. This is a decision to say
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: no to the voice, no to this attempt to divide
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: us by Ray. So yes, this is actually a big speech,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: but it's not the key moment. I think that said,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: there's been a little lack of focus over the last
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: few weeks, lots of momentum from the Liberals. Like I
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: said before that the Liberals seem to be not quite
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: as up as Labor in the House of Representatives today
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: in question time. So well, things change so fast there's
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: probably going to be a May three election five weeks.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Five weeks is a long time in politics and it
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: could all start again for Peter Dutton tonight. I think
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: it's going to need to do something big. We're hearing
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that it's probably going to be about things like a
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: gas reservation policy to make sure that less of our
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: gas is shipped overseas and kept in this country because
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: we are just these power prices are driving businesses broke
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and hurting consumers as well voters as well, So that
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: might be part of it. And I also think there
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: might be something on defense. We sure need that. You
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: can't have austrained so much peril and defense just dawdling
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: around like it is. So we shall see what's going
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: to come up. Peter Dutton, Well, what a moment of truth.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: And tomorrow, of course astras As as soon as Peter
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Dutton has finished speaking, the Homnis will be up to
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the Governor General and say give me an election, probably
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: May three, and that'll take us through an electure campaign
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: that will actually be more disruptive than most antac Day
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Easter pauses. For both of those pauses that one or
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: two of the leaders might or both of them might think, gee,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: that was welcome. So we shall see what a time
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: for Australia. I actually find it amazing that there's even
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: a debate here about whether Albanizi will be returned, because
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: we are talking about a fall in our standard of
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: living like we have not seen for many, many years outside,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: you know, like the pandemic. How this is still up
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: in the air, I do not know. And that might
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: have something to do with the Liberals not making the
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: case strong enough for on cost of living and all that,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: but who knows. That said, there was a good start
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I think by the policy to all right, let's stop
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: there a year from the problem every year opposite leader himself,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Peter Dutton