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- 0:21Speaker 1: reservation today. All right, and welcome in Ross Fulton, one
- 0:23Speaker 1: of our scheme gurus, scheme insiders at buckeyeinsiders.com. I'm going
- 0:28Speaker 1: to talk about the Ohio State offense today. against Kent state.
- 0:31Speaker 1: And this is a game where I think Ross on
- 0:33Speaker 1: the post game show, Tony and I were talking to
- 0:35Speaker 1: Ohio state fans and everyone was very, very dissatisfied about
- 0:39Speaker 1: how things went. And then you went back and rewatched
- 0:42Speaker 1: the game and it was like, yeah, it was fine.
- 0:44Speaker 1: It was 28, nothing. And then everything sort of, you know,
- 0:47Speaker 1: people lost a little focus probably after.
- 0:49Speaker 4: 28, nothing.
- 0:50Speaker 1: And, and things got a little loosey goosey at times,
- 0:53Speaker 1: but you know, that was an Ohio state team that
- 0:55Speaker 1: was pretty dominant against a bad Kent state team. So
- 0:59Speaker 1: Let's start out with, we're just going to go kind
- 1:01Speaker 1: of sequentially through the game. First drive right off the bat,
- 1:05Speaker 1: quick start with a little bit quick game to Brandon Ennis.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Yeah, that was, you know, just to open the kimono
- 1:13Speaker 2: a little bit. I was actually at a kid's soccer
- 1:15Speaker 2: game during this game as it was being played. And
- 1:18Speaker 2: so what usually happens if I have to miss an
- 1:21Speaker 2: Ohio State game is like my text chain explodes and
- 1:25Speaker 2: it's only bad things, right? So like I get home
- 1:27Speaker 2: and I assume like, like I, you know, I eventually
- 1:29Speaker 2: have to look at the score.
- 1:30Speaker 3: Cause I'm like, is it honestly like tied with Kent
- 1:32Speaker 3: state now? What is going on? And I look at
- 1:34Speaker 3: the score.
- 1:34Speaker 2: So I knew what happened before I watched the game
- 1:37Speaker 2: and that little, like once you like remove some of
- 1:39Speaker 2: like the, you know, as it's happening emotion from it,
- 1:43Speaker 2: it's like, I'm like, what was going on? Like they
- 1:45Speaker 2: were like, it was like a hot knife through butter
- 1:48Speaker 2: for four drives. And so I think there's a lot
- 1:51Speaker 2: of focus on like once they got up 28 to
- 1:54Speaker 2: nothing and we can talk about like, there's some personnel changes.
- 1:56Speaker 3: They were trying some different stuff.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Like, the plan to open the game was like what
- 2:01Speaker 2: everyone wanted to see coming out of Texas. And like,
- 2:05Speaker 2: it was almost entirely 11 personnel. This, I wanted to
- 2:10Speaker 2: point out this game because this first play, because we
- 2:13Speaker 2: talk a lot about like the RPO game and there
- 2:14Speaker 2: was a lot of reliefs and RPOs, but they also
- 2:17Speaker 2: like use some just like drop back quick game, like
- 2:19Speaker 2: three step drop. You saw like this, like right off
- 2:22Speaker 2: the bat, this, you know, motion into a spacing concept
- 2:25Speaker 2: to Brandon Ennis and, on a little like, you know,
- 2:28Speaker 2: slot out. And so you get that spacing, you know,
- 2:31Speaker 2: easy read against a corner boundary pressure from Kent State.
- 2:38Speaker 2: So it almost was just like spamming early on, at
- 2:40Speaker 2: least like 11 personnel, you know, what I think Julian's
- 2:45Speaker 2: saying does best, which is like make these reads, get
- 2:47Speaker 2: the football out, hit these short and intermediate throws.
- 2:52Speaker 4: All right.
- 2:52Speaker 1: You mentioned the RPO game there, and they were active
- 2:54Speaker 1: in that on Saturday.
- 2:56Speaker 4: This first one that we're going to look at.
- 2:58Speaker 1: Is Julian Sand pulls it and just a nice easy
- 3:01Speaker 1: slant to Jeremiah Smith.
- 3:03Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 3:03Speaker 2: And again, obviously this is where Jeremiah Smith set the
- 3:06Speaker 2: receiving record for Ohio State. But, you know, I mean,
- 3:11Speaker 2: when people bring up like what they want to see
- 3:13Speaker 2: in the offense, like I obviously do not disagree. I
- 3:17Speaker 2: feel like I've sort of been making this point for
- 3:19Speaker 2: two years in terms of like, again, I think this
- 3:21Speaker 2: is like where they're at their best, where there is.
- 3:24Speaker 2: 11 personnel, you know, again, this is a really nice,
- 3:28Speaker 2: like a backside RPO, right? So Julian Sands, like he's
- 3:32Speaker 2: reading that safety. So he's turning his back to Jeremiah Smith, correct?
- 3:37Speaker 2: And so he sees that safety rotate down. So he
- 3:40Speaker 2: pulls and throws a slant, obviously yards under catch. So again,
- 3:43Speaker 2: like lots of reliefs, the RPO game early until, you know,
- 3:50Speaker 2: they sort of didn't need to do that so much anymore.
- 3:54Speaker 2: But I do think like there is an and we'll
- 3:57Speaker 2: talk about the bison and like the short yardage stuff
- 4:00Speaker 2: like there is like people think they're doing a lot
- 4:04Speaker 2: more like 12 and 13 personnel than they actually are. Like,
- 4:07Speaker 2: I mean, I think there are 11 personnel is somewhere
- 4:09Speaker 2: up in like the 60 to 70 plus percent range.
- 4:12Speaker 2: So I think that one thing that we have seen
- 4:16Speaker 2: from Arthur Smith and we can all talk about it
- 4:18Speaker 2: here in the run game. as well is like, he's
- 4:21Speaker 2: been pretty adaptable, like even through these first three games.
- 4:25Speaker 2: I think that the things that my, whether it's myself
- 4:28Speaker 2: or Justin Whitlatch or others have pointed out scheme wise,
- 4:31Speaker 2: like he's picking up on the same thing and, and
- 4:34Speaker 2: leaning more and more into it. And so I think,
- 4:37Speaker 2: you know, again, there's been a shift already from where
- 4:41Speaker 2: they started against all state to even now, just a
- 4:46Speaker 2: lot more of this RPO and relief screen game.
- 4:51Speaker 1: One of the things that was a hot, hot, hot topic,
- 4:54Speaker 1: not necessarily in a good way after the game, was
- 4:56Speaker 1: that Bison package. And I think there is a general
- 4:59Speaker 1: trend for Ohio State fans to sort of reflexively recoil
- 5:03Speaker 1: to any sort of tight ends and extra offensive linemen
- 5:06Speaker 1: at this point, just based on the last year plus
- 5:09Speaker 1: of the Ohio State offense. And the Bison package obviously
- 5:12Speaker 1: does not meet those desires of the Ohio State fan base.
- 5:15Speaker 4: That But that doesn't mean it didn't work.
- 5:17Speaker 1: And one thing that really jumped out to me on Tuesday,
- 5:20Speaker 1: talking to Ryan Day during his press conference, he was
- 5:24Speaker 1: talking about some of the issues they had in the
- 5:26Speaker 1: run game and why wasn't the run.
- 5:27Speaker 4: Game doing some things.
- 5:28Speaker 1: And boy, he didn't put it on the offensive line
- 5:31Speaker 1: and he didn't really put it on the tight ends.
- 5:34Speaker 1: It was pretty much all put right on the doorstep
- 5:36Speaker 1: of the running backs. It feels like this play might
- 5:38Speaker 1: be an example of that.
- 5:40Speaker 4: It is.
- 5:41Speaker 3: Let's not let the tight ends off the hook and
- 5:43Speaker 3: we'll get to that.
- 5:43Speaker 2: I mean, he did talk about Problems, you know, cutting
- 5:47Speaker 2: off the C and D gap, particularly in short yardage,
- 5:50Speaker 2: which is a coach code for the tight ends, because
- 5:53Speaker 2: those are the gaps. And we'll, we have a good
- 5:55Speaker 2: example of that, but I mean, I think again, like
- 5:59Speaker 2: people are complaining about the Ohio state run game and
- 6:02Speaker 2: what I'm seeing, like on, especially in this game is like,
- 6:06Speaker 2: I mean, huge gaps and right.
- 6:07Speaker 3: So we're talking about Arthur Smith.
- 6:08Speaker 2: And so now we can get like a little bit
- 6:10Speaker 2: more into this.
- 6:11Speaker 4: So.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Arthur Smith's always been known as an outside zone heavy guy.
- 6:16Speaker 2: We talked about that in the offseason. We didn't look
- 6:20Speaker 2: great against Ball State, and we've seen a shift away
- 6:23Speaker 2: from that.
- 6:24Speaker 3: It didn't look great against Texas either.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Even against Texas, we saw more inside zone, and they
- 6:29Speaker 2: ran counter once, and it was really good. It looked
- 6:32Speaker 2: really clean. They got in 12 yards, and they didn't
- 6:34Speaker 2: go back to it. This game, we saw a heavy
- 6:37Speaker 2: emphasis against Kent State on counter and power. It helped
- 6:41Speaker 2: that you'll see from the end zone view here that
- 6:44Speaker 2: like Kent state ran a lot of this sort of three, three,
- 6:46Speaker 2: five odd front with three high safeties, which is, is a,
- 6:50Speaker 2: you know, we talked about on the flip side with
- 6:52Speaker 2: Texas running counter against Matt Patricia using the odd front,
- 6:56Speaker 2: you know, gap schemes are good against that, but Texas
- 6:58Speaker 2: ran quite a bit odd too.
- 6:59Speaker 3: And we still didn't see it there.
- 7:00Speaker 2: So I just thought the offensive line to your point,
- 7:05Speaker 2: blocked these counter and power plays really cleanly. You know,
- 7:09Speaker 2: good doubles to the second, get you up to the
- 7:11Speaker 2: second level.
- 7:12Speaker 3: You get the kick out here. I mean, I thought
- 7:13Speaker 3: the bison worked effectively.
- 7:15Speaker 2: And again, I think that's more on the personnel side
- 7:17Speaker 2: of things in adjustment because we've talked about the tight
- 7:21Speaker 2: end struggles.
- 7:22Speaker 3: Particularly, again, when you're talking about the C-gap, right?
- 7:25Speaker 2: So if you look here, like this play is a
- 7:27Speaker 2: good example of the C-gap between the tackle and the
- 7:30Speaker 2: bison tight end, who's Jay Cook. We're in 81. So like,
- 7:34Speaker 2: you know, you're down blocking. You don't want to allow
- 7:35Speaker 2: penetration here. And so, you know, that this itself is
- 7:39Speaker 2: an adjustment to like sort of seal the front side,
- 7:41Speaker 2: pull around.
- 7:43Speaker 3: You know, I think that.
- 7:46Speaker 2: When you get into, before getting to the running backs,
- 7:50Speaker 2: you know, there are, there are benefits in both the
- 7:53Speaker 2: run in the past game and we'll get into both
- 7:56Speaker 2: of using, you know, heavier personnel packages. And which is
- 8:01Speaker 2: why I don't think while it may be minority and
- 8:03Speaker 2: I will, happily say, like I think Ohio State's at
- 8:06Speaker 2: its best, as I just showed, you know, in the
- 8:08Speaker 2: 11 personnel spread, quick game, RPO game. I do think
- 8:12Speaker 2: there's benefits, one of which in the run game is
- 8:15Speaker 2: it allows you, I think it's more conducive to gap
- 8:19Speaker 2: run plays. You know, I know you can certainly run
- 8:23Speaker 2: counter from 11 personnel, but you are more apt to
- 8:27Speaker 2: have backside penetration and off the edge, particularly again, you're,
- 8:32Speaker 2: you're just, you know, if your quarterback's not a run
- 8:34Speaker 2: threat and you can't combine it to replays, there's just
- 8:37Speaker 2: limitations like having, having a wider edge, have being able to, to,
- 8:41Speaker 2: you know, close things down when you have extra surfaces
- 8:45Speaker 2: can help in the run game. And then we'll get
- 8:46Speaker 2: into why it can help in the past game as well. But,
- 8:50Speaker 2: so I don't think, you know, as Ryan Day said,
- 8:51Speaker 2: I don't think this is going to be something they
- 8:53Speaker 2: major in when you're looking at the Bison package specifically.
- 8:56Speaker 2: But again, I think it is, people I guess should
- 8:59Speaker 2: take solace in the fact like they recognize that they've
- 9:01Speaker 2: had substandard tight end blocking at stretches for this thus
- 9:06Speaker 2: far this year and are searching for solutions.
- 9:08Speaker 3: You know, getting to the running back.
- 9:10Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:10Speaker 2: I mean, this is a great example of like, this
- 9:12Speaker 2: should not have been, you know, as small of a
- 9:15Speaker 2: gain as it is. Obviously, you know, people look at
- 9:18Speaker 2: run stats and they want to give, they tend to
- 9:21Speaker 2: blame the offensive line, but like the, the holes were
- 9:24Speaker 2: there all game. As Dave said, like you gotta, you know,
- 9:28Speaker 2: Bo Jackson, who Dave was pretty critical of his press
- 9:31Speaker 2: conference was in particular, just seemed to be running to
- 9:34Speaker 2: contact like here, like, you know, he's not that big
- 9:37Speaker 2: of a guy to just try to pull over a corner.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Like there's plenty of space to the outside that he
- 9:42Speaker 2: could try to put a move on that guy.
- 9:44Speaker 3: And so we are sort of like, when you look
- 9:47Speaker 3: at the.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Advanced stats already back in a situation, you know, like
- 9:50Speaker 2: the game on paper staffs where like the expected yards,
- 9:53Speaker 2: you know, the line yards are pretty decent. But like
- 9:56Speaker 2: there's just no explosiveness again out of the run game. And,
- 10:01Speaker 2: you know, so the past games where they're creating all
- 10:03Speaker 2: the explosives. And so I do think that day and
- 10:06Speaker 2: the staff are correct to focus on that as an
- 10:08Speaker 2: issue because it just it just makes it harder, obviously,
- 10:11Speaker 2: when you have to, you know, sustain drives without explosives.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Well, as you mentioned, they are able to generate some
- 10:17Speaker 1: of those through the pass game. And you look at
- 10:20Speaker 1: the Bison package and you think, well, that's going to
- 10:22Speaker 1: be short yardage. It's going to be running the ball
- 10:23Speaker 1: between the tackles. And it doesn't have to be because
- 10:27Speaker 1: they can use that. And we've talked a bunch during
- 10:29Speaker 1: the preseason about Arthur Smith and the fact that he
- 10:32Speaker 1: likes to use play action passing, use that run to set.
- 10:35Speaker 4: Up the pass game. This next one, a very good
- 10:38Speaker 4: example of that. Yeah.
- 10:40Speaker 2: And again, this sort of goes to my point about
- 10:42Speaker 2: why you don't want to completely XU like using heavier
- 10:45Speaker 2: personnel sets and under center, you know, that's the spread RPO,
- 10:50Speaker 2: like quick game, obviously like that's more underneath throws, but again,
- 10:54Speaker 2: like explosives are important. And like, it's these sort of
- 10:57Speaker 2: heavy under center play action that can create more downfield
- 11:00Speaker 2: shot place.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Right.
- 11:02Speaker 2: And so they use the bison here. They get this
- 11:04Speaker 2: like C gap play action look and to throw basically
- 11:08Speaker 2: like a Yankee, like a.
- 11:09Speaker 3: Kind of a two man high, low concept.
- 11:12Speaker 2: You know, people are obviously on Julian Sane for locking
- 11:14Speaker 2: too much on Jeremiah Smith. But he does a nice
- 11:18Speaker 2: job here coming off of Smith. Probably could have thrown it.
- 11:21Speaker 2: You know, I mean, it's pretty much one-on-one for Jeremiah
- 11:24Speaker 2: Smith there. But Devin McEwen's wide open on the dig route.
- 11:28Speaker 2: So it comes off of that, hits McEwen. And so, again,
- 11:31Speaker 2: these formations are beneficial to creating chunk plays out of
- 11:36Speaker 2: the passing game. And so, again, I just don't think
- 11:39Speaker 2: that's something you want to, throw the baby out with
- 11:41Speaker 2: the bathwater.
- 11:43Speaker 1: There were a couple of times that Julian Sane came
- 11:45Speaker 1: in for criticism during that game on Saturday. And I
- 11:49Speaker 1: think he was, what, 18 for 22 or something like that.
- 11:51Speaker 1: So not a lot to criticize, but there was definitely
- 11:55Speaker 1: some times that he did kind of catch the brunt
- 11:58Speaker 1: of Ohio State fans' anger on various stuff. This next
- 12:01Speaker 1: play was one of them because Brandon Innes is open
- 12:04Speaker 1: in the middle of.
- 12:04Speaker 4: The end zone.
- 12:05Speaker 1: But I think you made a point that it's not
- 12:08Speaker 1: necessarily– this is not quite necessarily a terrible play by
- 12:13Speaker 1: Julian saying what way people think maybe think it is.
- 12:16Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it's one he would like
- 12:18Speaker 3: to have back.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Um, but again, you get in this situation where you're,
- 12:22Speaker 2: you know, they were like had success as it's defined
- 12:27Speaker 2: on 27 of their first 28 plays. And then you
- 12:30Speaker 2: get the ball back and, and they do start making
- 12:33Speaker 2: some substitutions here that have some impact. Um, Devin McCune
- 12:36Speaker 2: on the first down play on the all 22, he
- 12:38Speaker 2: kind of gets tripped and you can see him sort
- 12:40Speaker 2: of limp off the field a little bit.
- 12:42Speaker 3: He didn't come back in the game. Could have been
- 12:44Speaker 3: totally precautionary.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Second and third down, Brock Boyd, his replacement, who obviously
- 12:50Speaker 2: people are high on, but he missed a block on
- 12:53Speaker 2: second down. And on third down, one of the four
- 12:55Speaker 2: incompletions of saying correctly through the corner route when Boyd
- 12:58Speaker 2: broke inside. And so if Boyd executes on either of
- 13:03Speaker 2: those plays, this fourth down play never happens. So there's always,
- 13:07Speaker 2: you know, different things at play, but it, this is just,
- 13:12Speaker 2: you know, I thought day did a good job talking
- 13:14Speaker 2: through saying here and what he did wrong. Like it's a,
- 13:18Speaker 2: it's a different look from, uh, Kent state. And so
- 13:22Speaker 2: they kind of drop into a Tampa too. Um, and they,
- 13:26Speaker 2: but the corner really sinks instead of like the, you know,
- 13:29Speaker 2: it's a, basically a smash or China high low concept
- 13:32Speaker 2: and the quarter sinks enough. Actually, again, I think he
- 13:36Speaker 2: probably could have put it up at a place where
- 13:37Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith could have.
- 13:38Speaker 3: Caught this, but he obviously gets locked on.
- 13:40Speaker 2: And so when you see from the end zone camera,
- 13:43Speaker 2: like he, he turns his feet, but he doesn't snap
- 13:47Speaker 2: his head around.
- 13:48Speaker 4: Right.
- 13:48Speaker 2: And so like day talked a lot about like your
- 13:50Speaker 2: feet are the key in the progression. And what he
- 13:52Speaker 2: means is like, you know, they teach him like you
- 13:54Speaker 2: hit the back of your drop. If your first read
- 13:56Speaker 2: is not there, you reset your feet, you go to
- 13:57Speaker 2: your next read.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Right.
- 13:58Speaker 2: And so he's just waiting too long. And, you know,
- 14:00Speaker 2: then he needs to, I think Austin Sarahville probably could
- 14:04Speaker 2: have just, jumped on this Kent state defensive lineman, which
- 14:08Speaker 2: would have taken care of that. I mean, he had
- 14:09Speaker 2: him down, but also like saying needs to step up
- 14:11Speaker 2: in the pocket. Obviously like that throws there. So I'm
- 14:15Speaker 2: sure he wants that playback on the, the next fourth
- 14:19Speaker 2: and two that he, he threw over Smith's head. You know,
- 14:23Speaker 2: it's a reek, like they're reading the defensive backs leverage.
- 14:26Speaker 1: Right.
- 14:26Speaker 3: And Smith, like the guy was deep on Smith. So
- 14:29Speaker 3: Smith cut off his.
- 14:30Speaker 2: Route saying through it as if he's running a corner out.
- 14:32Speaker 2: I think Smith was probably right there. And so, you know,
- 14:36Speaker 2: he was not perfect. It's difficult to be perfect. I
- 14:40Speaker 2: think people have a pretty high bar for him in
- 14:42Speaker 2: terms of his efficiency at this point and take some
- 14:45Speaker 2: of the stuff he does for granted, because I think
- 14:48Speaker 2: if you look around college football, like, yes, you will
- 14:50Speaker 2: see guys make plays out of structure and, you know,
- 14:54Speaker 2: make highlight real plays, but it's, you still struggle to see,
- 14:59Speaker 2: you know, sort of talked about this with Arch Manning,
- 15:01Speaker 2: like guys are, working within the pocket, like within the
- 15:04Speaker 2: structure of the progression reads and like throwing accurate football.
- 15:07Speaker 2: So it's, it's definitely a skill that he has. And
- 15:10Speaker 2: I think, you know, people, the grass is always greener.
- 15:13Speaker 2: And I think people are taking that for granted. All right.
- 15:17Speaker 1: We're going to go back to the bison now, and
- 15:18Speaker 1: this is very much an equal time thing. We showed
- 15:20Speaker 1: you one where it worked, but it was kind of
- 15:23Speaker 1: didn't work as well as it could because of the
- 15:24Speaker 1: running backs. We showed one where it worked and it
- 15:26Speaker 1: worked in the passing game. Here's one where Ross mentioned earlier, Ryan,
- 15:30Speaker 1: it was not always thrilled.
- 15:32Speaker 4: About the tight ends.
- 15:33Speaker 1: This is one where you got the bison package out
- 15:36Speaker 1: there and it kind of gets blown up at least
- 15:38Speaker 1: partially because of blocking because from one of the tight ends.
- 15:42Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 15:42Speaker 3: Again.
- 15:43Speaker 2: And so this is, you know, the third down example.
- 15:45Speaker 2: And I, I do think there were lots of good
- 15:49Speaker 2: short yardage, heavy runs like Jacoby Jackson's opening touchdown was
- 15:54Speaker 2: like a really cleanly blocked power run. I thought day
- 15:57Speaker 2: talked about how, how well he ran on Saturday. And
- 16:00Speaker 2: I agree with that.
- 16:02Speaker 3: You know, he showed some wiggle in the hole.
- 16:04Speaker 2: This one is like, I mean, the most, the biggest
- 16:08Speaker 2: issue is Ben and Christian blocking down again, like not securing,
- 16:12Speaker 2: as we talked about, like getting his helmet to the
- 16:15Speaker 2: play side or to the offensive side of that pinching
- 16:19Speaker 2: defensive end. Cause he then cuts off the backside line.
- 16:23Speaker 2: pulling guard and Luke Montgomery who can't get outside to block.
- 16:27Speaker 2: And so that sort of blows.
- 16:28Speaker 3: Up the play.
- 16:30Speaker 2: You know, I talked about again, like rotating through backs.
- 16:33Speaker 2: I think Jacoby Jackson is certainly their short yardage back,
- 16:36Speaker 2: but then you saw them at one point put Bo
- 16:38Speaker 2: Jackson in to run short yardage and he kind of
- 16:40Speaker 2: got tripped up a couple of times. And like, you know,
- 16:43Speaker 2: I think Jacoby Jackson probably was scored in one of
- 16:45Speaker 2: those situations. And then you have Isaiah West here. And like,
- 16:48Speaker 2: I will certainly say that, Bennett Christian is like the
- 16:52Speaker 2: main cause of the issue here, but like it's third
- 16:54Speaker 2: and one and Isaiah West weighs like 240 pounds. Like
- 16:57Speaker 2: I'd like to see him just like go North and
- 16:58Speaker 2: South and put his pads down and try to get
- 17:01Speaker 2: that one yard instead of sort of dancing sideways in
- 17:03Speaker 2: the hole and losing yards. And so, you know, even
- 17:06Speaker 2: the way this like ends up having to be blocked
- 17:08Speaker 2: out with the, like the pole so wide outside of,
- 17:13Speaker 2: you know, the fourth man on the line of scrimmage,
- 17:15Speaker 2: I don't think was ideal in terms of how to
- 17:17Speaker 2: run power. So different problems here, but, I do think
- 17:21Speaker 2: that this is, you know, a, uh, continuing issue, obviously
- 17:25Speaker 2: in short yardage, we saw it on the fourth down
- 17:27Speaker 2: against Texas too. I continue to think that some of
- 17:31Speaker 2: what they were, they were doing this somewhat purposefully against
- 17:35Speaker 2: Kent state. Um, particularly when they got the game put
- 17:39Speaker 2: away to try to make a point. And I, I,
- 17:41Speaker 2: I still don't think we'll see like, you know, these
- 17:44Speaker 2: 23 personnel looks all the time in these situations. Um, But,
- 17:49Speaker 2: you know, this continues to.
- 17:51Speaker 3: Be like.
- 17:53Speaker 2: These block down situations from the edge continue to be
- 17:57Speaker 2: a source of issues.
- 17:59Speaker 1: So I guess if we're including the Bison package and
- 18:02Speaker 1: you include Jake Cook as one of the tight ends,
- 18:04Speaker 1: this next one would be 14 personnel. You've got three
- 18:06Speaker 1: tight ends in the field plus Jake Cook. This is
- 18:09Speaker 1: one where it does work on the goal line. This
- 18:11Speaker 1: is the Bo Jackson one yard touchdown.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:15Speaker 2: And I think, you know, again, this sort of goes
- 18:17Speaker 2: to like, they do continue to change things up and
- 18:20Speaker 2: look for what's working. So this is down G or
- 18:22Speaker 2: G lead. So it's a power play, except you pull
- 18:25Speaker 2: the play side guard. You see this a lot in
- 18:28Speaker 2: short yardage. They ran it several times. I think it's
- 18:30Speaker 2: a great play, particularly in short yardage situations. So again,
- 18:34Speaker 2: I do think that they are continuing to sort of
- 18:37Speaker 2: search for.
- 18:38Speaker 3: What works best.
- 18:40Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I thought the Bison package was
- 18:42Speaker 2: pretty successful in terms of Jay Cook closing that down.
- 18:44Speaker 2: I know that Day talked about Yeah, there's issues with
- 18:47Speaker 2: the combination blocks. He's obviously not familiar with being in
- 18:50Speaker 2: that spot with the tackle position. But so I thought,
- 18:54Speaker 2: you know, I guess my sort of message or takeaway
- 18:57Speaker 2: is that I don't think that they are. I mean,
- 19:00Speaker 2: I think we've seen situations in the past where you
- 19:03Speaker 2: see stubborn play calling. I do not think you're seeing
- 19:06Speaker 2: that from Arthur Smith.
- 19:08Speaker 4: All right, there you go.
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