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Regenerative Beauty: How Modern Aesthetics Blends with Wellness | Ep 96 · The Driven Athlete

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  Speaker 1: If you're a driven, active person who wants to reach and pursue a higher quality life with some ambition, then guess what this podcast is for you.
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  Speaker 1: This is the Driven Athlete Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Where are you from originally?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe like we knew each other through middle school and high school?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, youth group.
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  Speaker 1: And what got you?
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  Speaker 1: Why did you choose, you know, the nursing program you did like.
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  Speaker 1: Why that direction?
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  Speaker 1: And then, um, this field that you're going into now, like what led you to that, versus, like you know, inpatient or orthopedics or what?
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  Speaker 1: Hospital care, acute care, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, is this in the right spot.
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  Speaker 1: I think so, good, cool, all right, what's up?
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  Speaker 1: Y'all?
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  Speaker 1: It's your man, dr kyle.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the driven athlete podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We got a great guest with us, someone we go back with history with, but melanie craft is here.
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  Speaker 1: She's a nurse practitioner.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're busy, so I appreciate you coming in.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: So tell everybody where you're at, what you do and how you help people.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm a nurse practitioner and um, I just opened my own business in aesthetic medicine.
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  Speaker 2: Um, it's just me right now.
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  Speaker 2: So, um, it's in gardens right.
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  Speaker 2: It's in Palm Beach gardens.
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  Speaker 2: Yep and I have about eight years um experience doing aesthetic medicine.
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  Speaker 2: I've worked for a few plastic surgeons.
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  Speaker 2: I've always loved working in the operating room.
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  Speaker 2: I like using my hands, I like suturing.
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  Speaker 2: I.
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  Speaker 2: I very detail oriented.
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  Speaker 1: Not everybody likes that.
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  Speaker 2: Not everybody likes that.
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not scared of the sight of blood kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good, that's important yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I've always had a passion for learning and growing and always taking things to the next level.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like moving in the direction of aesthetics is neat, because there's so many new things on the horizon and there's so many ways to blend wellness into aesthetic medicine.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just all about fixing people's faces or making them look younger.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot more to be discovered just from beauty within.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think?
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  Speaker 1: What direction do you think it's going to go?
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to go into the direction of, like regenerative medicine.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's kind of heard of PRP but not everybody knows what it is or what it does and not everybody's PRP is the same.
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  Speaker 2: So in the space of regenerative medicine people are looking more at like exosomes and platelet derived growth factors that are kind of harvested and stimulated in a lab, factors that are kind of harvested and stimulated in a lab and we can use those to stimulate the body's own production of collagen.
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  Speaker 2: And you're kind of going to see medicine go in that direction because people are kind of getting away from more like the synthetic stuff, like Botox and fillers and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Gotcha yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So PRP, tell people more about that.
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  Speaker 1: It's platelet-rich plasma.
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  Speaker 2: Platelet-rich plasma, so and how like more about that.
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  Speaker 2: It's platelet rich plasma, platelet rich plasma, so and how, like for aesthetics?
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  Speaker 1: how would that be applied?
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  Speaker 2: So you can you draw from blood.
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  Speaker 2: I was working for a plastic surgeon in New York and we would.
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  Speaker 2: We'd basically draw your blood, you spin it in a machine to separate out the plasma from the blood part and you take just that portion and you can kind of inject it anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: And so we would inject it kind of before we close any incision and it's supposed to stimulate the body's own healing factors and it's just all about tissue repair.
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  Speaker 2: So in aesthetics you could use it.
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  Speaker 2: If you're doing microneedling treatments you can inject it under the eyes to kind of help produce more volume, naturally Under the eyelid Under the eyelid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, people are cool with that.
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  Speaker 2: People are cool with that, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: My gosh.
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  Speaker 2: I inject a lot of filler under the eyes.
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  Speaker 2: So, just helps restore volume.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So PRP, sometimes eye filler applications, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I do a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say the most common treatment I'm doing right now are Botox injections, mainly like between the brows.
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  Speaker 2: Botox can be used medically to treat migraines, to help with jaw grinding.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 2: And it has a really great place for that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't do that as much.
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  Speaker 2: I'm more using it in aesthetic medicine, but I hear so many people come back and say I was getting headaches at the end of the day and when I get my Botox injections.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't have them anymore.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people nowadays are spending a lot of time on the computer.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that constant like tension and squeezing of the muscles there can create tension.
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  Speaker 2: Are you familiar with how Botox works?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but explain more to people.
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  Speaker 2: So it can get a bad name because, at basis.
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  Speaker 2: It's a neurotoxin and it's used in very, very minuscule amounts and bound to proteins.
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  Speaker 2: When you inject it into a muscle you're not injecting it into blood vessels, but when you inject it into muscle it produces an effect of temporarily paralyzing that muscle Right Usually lasts about three to four months.
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  Speaker 2: In cosmetics we use it in areas where people notice a lot of expression lines, so like around the forehead, between the brows, around the eyes, maybe wrinkles, wrinkles, yeah, yeah, expression lines.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that Expression lines sound better.
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  Speaker 1: I've never heard it before.
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  Speaker 1: I like that Sounds more elegant.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be better.
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  Speaker 1: I've never heard it before.
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  Speaker 1: I like that Sounds more elegant.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's being used more and more like beyond that.
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  Speaker 2: It started up here.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of moved down the body to where, like some people, get trapped Botox just to help reduce tension there.
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  Speaker 2: It can elongate the neck.
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  Speaker 1: And then TMJ pain.
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  Speaker 1: So we see a lot of headaches and like neck pain.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Some headaches that can come from, like cervicogenic headaches but yeah, we see that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's a common thing.
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  Speaker 1: And then TMJ issues, like we help people with TMJ dysfunction and we'll do dry needling for that too.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's great so like.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a similar effect from what the research is finding from like the dry needling application to the muscle tissue for decreasing the muscle guarding, to help with acetylcholine regulation, which Botox, botulinum toxin A from my understanding it blocks acetylcholine.
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  Speaker 1: Is that correct?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so it helps with muscle tension.
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  Speaker 1: So the lens that we would work for that for upper trap tightness or headaches and neck pain and stuff or TMJ pain, we're like, all right, your muscles are guarded, understood but why yeah, pain, yeah, we're like all right, your muscles are guarded, understood.
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  Speaker 1: but like what?
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah what is it you're doing?
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  Speaker 1: Or why the the joint mobility, um uh, ratios between some of the upper cervical to the mid cervical, like what's?
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  Speaker 1: Why is some things getting more tight than others?
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  Speaker 1: There has to be usually.
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  Speaker 1: There's usually an answer, right.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, totally like this stuff can be helpful to help create relief yeah, you, you know, reduce the tension.
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  Speaker 1: So you're doing it from an aesthetic standpoint and then the PRP to help stimulate a healing response, naturally.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, collagen fiber lay down Totally.
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  Speaker 2: What got you into this in the first place, to go the nursing route?
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  Speaker 2: It all really goes back to my younger sister.
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  Speaker 2: When she was four she was diagnosed with leukemia.
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  Speaker 2: I was about 12 at the time and we spent about two years in and out of the hospital with her, and there were times I'd be there with her.
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  Speaker 2: My mom would be like, hey, I'm going to run out, I'll be back in 20 minutes, I'm going to go get dinner, and I'd either be pulled into procedures with her or I'd watch the nurses draw blood, administer chemo blood transfusions, and I just was captivated by it, like just by the people working there, and so that's initially what led me to the nursing career.
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  Speaker 2: My first job was in the neonatal intensive care unit.
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  Speaker 2: I worked in a level three NICU in Orlando.
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  Speaker 1: That's heavy.
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  Speaker 2: It's very heavy, very intense, but I loved it.
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  Speaker 2: I think to this day that was still probably the most fulfilling career I've ever had.
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  Speaker 2: Um, but I've always had a passion for learning.
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  Speaker 2: My family jokes that if I could just go to school for a living, I would be just a lifelong, like just a learner.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, student just I don't care, just teach me.
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  Speaker 2: I want to keep learning and growing and meeting people in the teaching realm.
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  Speaker 2: I loved working through teaching hospitals and all that.
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  Speaker 2: So the NICU I was working in, a lot of the girls were going back and getting their advanced practice degree and everyone was doing something different, whether it be peds focused, nicu focused, family focused.
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  Speaker 2: So I chose family because it was super indecisive at the time and I was like I don't know if I want to keep treating babies or adults.
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  Speaker 2: That actually ended up leading me to orthopedic surgery.
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  Speaker 2: I actually I don't know if you knew that I worked in ortho for three years for a shoulder and knee sports medicine doctor.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing In Orlando as well.
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  Speaker 2: No, that was in Palm Beach Gardens.
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  Speaker 1: With who?
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  Speaker 2: Dr Ryder Brian Reiter with Atlantis, orthopedics.
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  Speaker 2: Um, yeah, that was my first first job and I loved working in the OR.
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  Speaker 2: That was like the first time I was really in there and hands-on doing surgery, assisting with fracture repairs, reattaching tendons and muscles and all that.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So, that was cool.
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  Speaker 1: So some trauma then.
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  Speaker 2: Not so much trauma, but just because we were more like sports medicine.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of injuries Got it, yeah, cool.
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  Speaker 1: So then after that you were there for three years.
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  Speaker 2: I was there for about three years and then I um at the time I was moving to New York city to be closer to my boyfriend, who's now my husband and I.
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  Speaker 2: When I was moving I was I liked ortho, but I wanted to maybe get into a space where I could do surgery that wasn't like super around the clock and urgent, so I was like plastic surgery could be nice.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have to be on call on the weekends, patients aren't in pain, they're not hurting A little better work-life balance A little bit, yeah, and I thought New York was a really cool place to do it, and it was.
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  Speaker 2: It's super busy.
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  Speaker 2: I learned a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I saw a lot of things that you're not going to see in South Florida, so where in New York were you at?
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  Speaker 2: I was right in Midtown, wow yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Cool.
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  Speaker 1: So just the hustle and bustle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And how long were you there for?
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  Speaker 2: About two years Two years.
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  Speaker 2: Not too long.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, just enough.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I could be there long term.
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  Speaker 1: It was a good experience.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of subway commuting, you see a lot of things you don't ever want to see again.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I couldn't imagine.
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  Speaker 1: I've actually only been to New York, I think, two times.
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  Speaker 1: Really.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Did you like it I?
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  Speaker 1: thought it was cool and I was like in a, in a certain stage of life, it could be cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Not now, with family, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no but a certain stage in life you know like a transient, like one to two year, maybe three year period.
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  Speaker 1: I could see that being fun.
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  Speaker 1: It has a really good.
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  Speaker 2: Um, there's just like a pulsing energy in the city.
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  Speaker 2: People like, are really hustling, they're working, they're trying hard it's.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a grind, like some of my days would start at 5 45 and I wouldn't get home till 9 PM.
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  Speaker 2: We'd drive to New Jersey, we'd operate Um, we'd fly to Atlanta, miami, there were facilities like all over the country.
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  Speaker 2: We were operating out of it was busy, it was really fun.
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  Speaker 1: That's intense, yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 1: So then from there, that's when you went more aesthetics.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: So I was about half and half there, half my time being in the operating room, half assessing patients and seeing patients doing like wound care, post-surgery removing drains, all that.
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  Speaker 2: And that's when I got into the injectables and I just thought that was really neat.
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  Speaker 2: It's very artistic.
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  Speaker 2: If you have kind of more of an artistic, creative mind, you can really implement that in that space.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard that with plastics, you know like artistic, so that's a great, I mean it makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good blend, you know, and the transition from that.
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: So they went all right, so they went aesthetics and then you were working before opening your own facility six months ago, three months ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, I worked for another local plastic surgeon and we did a lot of orbital and eye related type of procedures and surgeries and I just I've always had this passion to go do something on my own and just make my own space and I kind of want to get into that other like I said, that other space of regenerative medicine and explore what that could do to help my patients.
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  Speaker 2: It's a really common question I get from patients is how they can anti-age from within and in ways where they're not like I don't want to keep band-aiding what I'm seeing that's aging me, that's making me feel tired and I'm just not super happy about what I'm seeing in the mirror.
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  Speaker 2: And this little area bothers me a lot and I just, if I could, you know, get that to look and feel better.
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  Speaker 2: I, I just think I live a better life, and that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: What do you?
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  Speaker 1: This is going to be tricky, but like what do you think?
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  Speaker 1: The recipe in total would be a comprehensive recipe for anti-aging.
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  Speaker 1: It's like hey, I want to be, I want to feel better, look better.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All that longevity, god, that's a loaded question, I know.
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  Speaker 1: Do you follow that guy Um, brian Johnson?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 1: He's like the guy that's the don't.
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  Speaker 1: He's like the whole movement of don't die.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Um, he's like a billionaire that likes what a tech company, but anyway, now he just like full sand on, like I want to age the slowest as possible in the world, but the slowest ager, okay.
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  Speaker 1: So he does like blood transfusions, like for the 17 year old son.
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  Speaker 1: Um, he has like the red light therapy and he um, he only eats from 6am to 11am.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't eat meat.
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  Speaker 1: Um, he's basically like microplastics and then sun exposure and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Processed foods.
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  Speaker 2: I think the overall theme would probably be like avoiding toxins, and I think that's a really it's like a lot more talked about than it ever has been, but I I do believe we have a lot of toxicity in our world and our food yeah, um, and our, our skincare products, um, fragrances is like a huge thing that finally there's really good brands and companies you can get good interest.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are your thoughts on like sunscreen?
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  Speaker 2: Same thing.
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  Speaker 2: My patients get so annoyed with how much I'm pushing SPF because we just get so much exposure from UVA, UVB rays and that is, it's literally radiation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it's so damaging to our cells, to our skin, to our hair, everything.
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  Speaker 1: Would you recommend like just like a day-to-day lotion that includes SPF?
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think just to like walk out of the mailbox, like go to the grocery store.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can look for something that's mineral based, that's huge, because a lot of regular sunscreens that you're going to find at the grocery store actually have a lot of toxins in them.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say like what, yeah, what sunscreens do you do you?
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  Speaker 1: Is that a thing, Like I know?
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  Speaker 1: I've seen that also in the social media space.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, there's a benefit of getting the sunscreen to block the UVA, UVB rays, but then at the expense of all the chemicals that you're absorbing through your skin that comes with sunscreen.
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  Speaker 1: What are those chemicals?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the specific names of them.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: There's some really good apps that actually rely on EWGs.
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  Speaker 2: One of them where you can like scan the barcode of any product and it'll give you a whole profile on, like the rating of that product and let you know like these are the things that are in them that are toxic and that are bad, and it kind of like rates it from like zero to 10.
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  Speaker 2: You're looking for it to be kind of zero to one, yeah of course.
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  Speaker 2: And they have categories on like skin sensitivity, internal toxicity.
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  Speaker 2: I think if you can find more like physical, mineral-based sunscreens, that's going to be key.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of medical grade skincare companies are making them.
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  Speaker 1: What would that be Like?
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  Speaker 1: What brand would that be?
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  Speaker 2: One brand I really like.
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  Speaker 2: I use a lot of Skin Better.
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  Speaker 2: You really can only find them in doctor's offices.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to find them in like Publix and CVS, but a really good CVS brand is called La Roche-Posay.
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  Speaker 2: They make great products that are like medical grade, but you can find them in in convenience stores.
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  Speaker 1: So the other one you can't find online or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: You can buy it online through their website, but you have to have a provider linked to the product.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha so it's not a prescription, but it's just kind of controlled in like control medical space.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you recommend that and just wear it as if you were wearing lotion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wear it daily, all the time, and if all you have time for I mean, I'm a mom of two so I'm busy at.
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  Speaker 2: My skincare routine Isn't as big and grand as I'd probably like it to be, but if, if you can't put sunscreen and then lotion, find a lotion that has sunscreen in it.
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  Speaker 1: Got it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Do you follow, do you um that, this one social media influencer guy?
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  Speaker 1: He does like the ice bucket and his face or the bowl of ice.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I've seen that.
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  Speaker 1: Does your facial?
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  Speaker 1: Does your skincare routine include that?
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: It does not?
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  Speaker 2: but I am.
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  Speaker 2: I've actually moved to washing my face with cold water.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: I think for a while we would say like heat, hot, open the pores.
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  Speaker 2: But um, I think he can be kind of damaging to the tissue on the skin.
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  Speaker 1: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 1: So you advocate for cooler water.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of like just like a room temp cool water, Although in Florida our cool water really is like just kind of warm in the summer it's like this is not quite as warm as bath water.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Um, so the art, so the uh for skincare routine.
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  Speaker 1: Um the mineral based sunscreen wear it all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Every day.
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  Speaker 2: We should wear it every day.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting sun exposure, when we're driving, when we're running errands.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people forget that.
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  Speaker 2: They think, oh, when I go to the pool or beach I'll wear it.
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  Speaker 2: But we really should be wearing it every day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, um, I remember like when I'm like playing sports, like practice and stuff like that, I would put sunscreen on, cause we had like two days, you know, like the football, yeah, and I'll be like burnt, you know, and I'm like man, I gotta put sunscreen on you know Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And people guys were like what are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just like burnt, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever seen the picture of the?
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  Speaker 2: He drove a truck for like 50 years and the sun exposed side of his face is looks like 40 years older than the non sun exposed.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting it's really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I have seen like one arm will be you know, and a hand and a hand from the driving.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Cause that's the one getting the sun from the through the windshield.
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  Speaker 1: What else do you recommend then for like skincare routine?
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  Speaker 2: I think everybody should be on some form of like a acidic exfoliator at night.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what's that?
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  Speaker 2: So some of the common ones are glycolic acid and retinoic acid, Retinol you've probably heard of retinol.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: A little familiar.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: It's derived from vitamin A and it basically tells your cell cycle to speed up and exfoliate and shed dead skin cells faster than your baseline.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: And when you do that you're actually creating new cells faster and it kind of anti-ages the skin so it shrinks pores, helps with wrinkles, makes your skin just look shinier and brighter.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: But I think if everybody can find a formulation that works for their skin and doesn't over dry their skin using it at least three times a week would be ideal If you're looking for some type of skincare to take care of your skin in the long term.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: During pregnancy you can't use retinoic acid.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: So I kind of went crazy because I'm like I can't use my retinol when I'm pregnant and I went down a whole rabbit hole.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: There are some safe alternatives during pregnancy, like glycolic acid is fine to use and like a toner.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: What about nursing?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Nursing, it's recommended not to use it either.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: So same thing.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just so interesting, like considering those things get absorbed in your skin.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: That then can be passed through to a baby.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but absorb in your skin, that then?
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Can be passed through to a baby yeah, but like sunscreen.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Deodorants yeah, body wash I know they're not talked about as much.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Not at all.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Aluminum deodorants.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Like aluminum's a metal I think they're finding a lot of like metals being toxic to babies and kids and their bodies can't process metals as quickly and as much and they can't handle the load that, like, adults can.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah metals as quickly and as much and they can't handle the load that like adults can.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a lot of products that are heavy in metals.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I went down a whole rabbit hole on the baby foods recently with like jarred baby foods.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: A lot of companies are not testing the quantity of metals in them and it can be toxic.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Which makes total sense.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's some kind of processing, you know.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And then the packaging.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: The soil, it's like, there's like the four points of it I've talked.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like where does this like with this environmental toxicity?
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: What does this look like in 20 years?
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I know, like, where are we going, like what are the options?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I think we're going in a good direction, but I feel like it's also one of those like with knowledge comes power and understanding, and I think we're going to learn a lot of the things that we've been doing and using and putting in our foods and products are just really bad.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's crazy, though.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: And then do you recommend microneedling yeah, like what is that?
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: And then do you recommend that on a regular basis, like monthly.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you could do it monthly.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: It's not really necessary no-transcript whatever you're using to kind of help get nutrients to the plant to make it grow.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: It's kind of the same thing with the face.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: And back to PRP.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: You can microneedle and then take PRP and kind of smear it all over the face, put it all in there.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: They call that the vampire facial.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, that makes sense.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know um.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Have you seen those like for hair loss?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Like the little rollers, like lawnmower rollers?
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, is it the same thing?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I think it has a similar idea, but it's more meant for like home use.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Um, patients are going to get access to a microneedling device to use at home.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: So I definitely think anything that can stimulate the skin and blood flow can be great.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: But hair loss is another interesting one that I want to get into in the future.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: It's just stimulating hair growth, giving patients other options other than going for hair transplants.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: It seems like the aesthetic, the umbrella under there, would also include, like, yeah, hair loss.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Wellness, regeneration, regenerative medicine.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: With the.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: So tell me this what kind of population do y'all see, Like, what's your demographic?
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I would say.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I mean I'm seeing majority women.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I do see and treat some men, but the most of it is women.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Anywhere ages late twenties to.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I had a lady I saw the other day that was 82.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: So I've got a pretty wide range but on average I'm seeing women in their thirties, forties and fifties.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Gotcha, and then they come in with usually the same questions.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yep, usually the most common questions Expression lines I have.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I have expression lines Um.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I have a wrinkle right in the center of my eyebrow that's probably my most common or two between my eyebrows, and it just bothers me when I look in the mirror and I just want options to get rid of it.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Smile lines here in the nasolabial folds are another common one.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: One of the first places we start losing volume on our face as we age is the midface, and so I get a lot of patients coming in feeling like they feel sunken there, sunken in the temples, and they're just looking for ways to restore volume, take care of their skin, um, so they just want to age more gracefully long-term.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Gotcha Um, the, with like mid face and then temporal sunken features.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: What do you do for that and what's the treatment for that?
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: My most common treatment is using a hyaluronic acid filler.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, yeah, which.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: It's funny because when I first got into aesthetic medicine, what I knew of hyaluronic acid was from my ortho days, because we would inject it into the knee joint to help treat some of the symptoms of arthritis and we use it as a filler in the face and it can last anywhere from six to 24 months.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: And I'm basically just re-volumizing areas where the patient once had volume.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: So I'm not trying to change the structure of the face or make people look any different.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just kind of restoring some volume loss that they once had.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: From my understanding, the hyaluronic acid.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: From a soft tissue standpoint, like for collagen, it helps with gliding between, like the pliability between, collagen fibers.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Like when we do soft tissue work, like if we do stripping or cupping or something like that, the thought would be like it stimulates a vasal response that delivers beelines hyaluronic acid in the area too.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: So like imagine like getting a massage or like getting like some soft tissue work, which is not super comfortable, yeah, but then they stay, they're red and like I was really uncomfortable during when they stand up and like, oh, I'm like a lot looser.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like what happened From my understanding, like the research describing it's like a more hyaluronic acid was recruited and delivered in the area.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: That's allowing more fiber gliding.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah so that'd be the same thing for the face like for aesthetics.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: It's similar.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm putting it in areas like where some of the fat pads are, but it likes water because it's like a hydrator, so it's very water loving and so it will draw water into where I inject it and will actually kind of help with a little volume as well.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: There's different types of fillers.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: They all have different properties and they're used in different areas, for if you want something firmer or if you want something that's really flexible and stretchy and you want it to look more natural, so that's where, like, the artistic component kind of comes in.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, very similar.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: So what would like?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Let's say, the lady comes in your main demographic would be like thirties to fifties, female, and they have expression lines and they want to feel confident, like they want to what and I was skincare longevity.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: What's the best recipe for that?
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I'd say the best recipe in my opinion would be using Botox to kind of soften some expression lines every three to four months.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Um, it's going to be common that I'm injecting filler into, like the mid face area and sometimes along the jaw line.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not really big into lips.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I like correcting lips and using it for soft hydration, but I don't like when lips look fake or overfilled and it's just not my thing.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I would imagine microneedling and PRP.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Microneedling Yep.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Occasionally I like using chemical peels because they're basically like the, the the exfoliating acids I talked about earlier, but in really high concentrations and they cause like a rapid shedding of dead skin cells and tissue.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: So is that a cream?
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: No, it's like a.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: It's a solution I apply in the office and then they leave it on for a few hours and then they get like a little take-home regimen to care for their skin and over the course of a week they like peel Interesting.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a snake you kind of shed skin.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: So doing that, I think, three times a year is awesome.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I get patients on a good skincare regimen.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I always, always tailoring it to the patient just depending on what their needs are and how much time they have and want to invest into it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: So I think, good skincare, little Botox filler to restore some volume, I think that's the perfect recipe.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: But also understanding that it's like maintaining a car or coloring your hair.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: It's not something you just do once.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: You got to kind of stay on top of it.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they recommend patients to come back and see you like, like what's the cadence look like to come in.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: If it's a new patient, I like seeing them back at two weeks just to kind of assess whatever it is we did and make sure that they responded appropriately, answer any questions they may have.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: But ideally I'm seeing patients every three to six months.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Gotcha and then just continually coming in if something comes up or like as needed more frequently.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I've got a lot of seasonal patients too, so I also kind of work with them if they have other treatment providers, usually up north, where they go, and I'm very transparent about here's our treatment plan.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: This is how much Botox we've injected.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: It's just a type of filler I use because a lot of of people don't know that.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: They'll come to you and they'll say I had filler a year ago.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it was or where they put it and you're like okay.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Which is kind of interesting, cause we have a very similar conversation with patients as in like I went and saw this one PT or Cairo or doc or whatever and they did this thing and it didn't hurt.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel great afterwards.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like who was it, like where were you at?
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: And they're like I don't remember.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I was like man, like I feel like I'd be a little bit more conscientious.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, writing it down what's going in my body, but I think if you trust your provider and they've given you treatments that you like, the result and the outcome, they just trust you and they're going to do whatever you recommend.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: What about blemishes?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: You got questions on that.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: You know, I think cosmetic dermatology is something I highly value and respect, and they're more going to be in the wheelhouse of treating rosacea, acne, all that I do some chemical peels for it if they're already on some type of medication or regimen at home, peels for it if they're already on some type of medication or regimen at home.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: But that's another one where I think there's a lot of internal factors at play and it's just a problem of inflammation, like a lot of things.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Interesting For what particular Like rosacea?
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: you're saying Rosacea and acne, it's just inflammation of the pore and the tissue that exhibits the symptom, and so it's not just inflammation from the external environment.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot at play with the internal.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Interesting what they're eating.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: What they're eating, yeah yeah, totally Consuming.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Drinking, eating, yep, lack of exercise, stress, loss of sleep.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Stress loss of sleep 100% Kids.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: And then hormonal imbalance dysregulation.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hormonal imbalance dysregulation.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: You know from all the whole.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: You know, because that's a traumatic thing, you know For sure.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Pregnancy, birth, nursing, oh my gosh, you're telling me Lack of sleep.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Seven months out, yeah.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: So you have two kids.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yep, I got a two and a half year old daughter and a seven month old baby boy.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Man, that's crazy.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Seven months already.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I know I can't either it flies, but I'm happier in this phase when they're actually like sleeping through the night.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I struggle with the newborn phase of like the sleepless nights and the BF.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: You know that.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: It's the worst.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I mean Nicole takes the brunt of it.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I help usually to like put them down, like she'll wake up to nurse, you know, and then they're usually just man, they just want mom.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I know so when they put my mom posts them down, they're like no, no, no, no, Like I need you.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: They just sense and smell them, you know.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: So she's like can you come in and put them down?
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Cause Maverick, now he's.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: He's nine months.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I knew he was close.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: He slept through the night one time.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, all our two kids got up like three times that particular night.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: It always goes that way, it's crazy.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I was blessed with this dream child.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: He at four months.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: He just started sleeping through the night and I had heard that happens.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't know it was possible and he just did it.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Our middle son, Colt, was like that.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: He like started sleeping really well within like two months, I think, and then it lasted up until he started teething, I think.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Or some kind of leap happened at six months maybe, but anyway there was like a two month stretch, I believe, where Blakely was old enough, where she's sleeping well through the night.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: And then Colt was like sleeping.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: We're like this is kind of easy.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: You know Like if it could be like this is awesome, this is kind of easy.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: You know like if it could be like this is awesome, you know.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but Mav has been definitely he's been more challenging, but yeah, so I'm on there.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: She takes the brunt of it.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know Like there's lack of sleep, man.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: It's like it's brutal, just constant, broken sleep.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's crazy.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: No, I think fatigue is like a form of torture, like just not sleeping at all, and it affects so many systems of the body, right, right, yeah, I know that.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Um for talking about longevity something.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I've heard multiple sources where they're like the first thing first, like comprehensive recipe for longevity and like anti-aging be healthy wellness or whatever they're like.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Get your sleep locked in.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Like be military, uh consistent, and like regimented, with like no, I'm in bed at nine.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Wake up every day at five, 30, you know whatever, and then like lock that in.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Just cause, like all the processes and recovery things that happen at sleep, One of them being brain um flush, you know, like getting all the trash proteins flush out of the brain.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: And I was like huh.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I've never thought about that.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Well then I'm.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: You know we're doomed.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I'm learning now that, now that we've two kids, my husband also owns and runs a business.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: He's in insurance.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Two kids, two businesses.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I found that I need to become more of an early morning person If I want to get like my me time in, whether it be yoga exercise, or just like having coffee, and you know, reading some news has to be in the morning.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could agree with you.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Um, cause yours are grinded, you know it's busy businesses and I'm fortunate where Nicole, like you know, she's at home with the kiddos and that's like a her thing, you know.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: So it allows me to, like, get out here and, you know, grind and stuff.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the me time, like for sure, you know, fortunately.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: So there's a question.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: So you're, you know active, healthy, professional, you know health industry.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: How do you navigate with two kids running a business, getting your own longevity, health, wellness, nutrition, stuff?
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what are your recommendations?
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I think I've had to let go of a lot of the not everything's going to be kept up with and done a hundred percent, a hundred percent of the time.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: So if my house is a wreck, if laundry's piling up, if, like dishes are left from the morning, that used to be something that really got under my skin and bother me and I've kind of learned to let it go and just know it 'll get done.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I'll finish it later.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: It's not a big deal.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Just focusing on like the important, like trying to get up early, get my workout in and be done by seven, 30, um is is key.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I don't do it every day.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I couldn't do it every day, Um where do you work out?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Usually just at home or in the neighborhood.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: We were members at lifetime for a while.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Then I paused it when I had the baby.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: But I love lifetime gym.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: They're great, they've got everything.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Good classes, yeah, um, but for now I've just kind of been at home.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Gotcha, I kind of like to run in the summer, which is crazy.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I can't last long it's only like 20 minutes, but there's something about just sweating that's like feels really good.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I love the endorphins it creates.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: It's really therapeutic.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: How was that with?
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: is that a recommended thing for skincare, Like get some good sweats and run out in the sun in the summer Florida probably not, if I'm like preaching my SPF, but no, I think I think sweating's good.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I think, um, you know the, the anti-aging, healthier way to do it is in like a sauna or like a steam room.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Um, but I, I just there's something about the Florida heat and the sun and just sweating outside.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: That feels like really good and really natural, I don't disagree with you.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I feel always.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels good.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: You know, like I did something hard and like I it's healthy.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so something to your body, I think heat conditioning.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: For sure, yeah, as long as it's safe.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Have worked out in like six months, I'm going to do.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do person you got a lot of juggling, a lot of stuff, yeah.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Let the Let little things go, Let the little ones burn.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Like, just let that little fire the laundry, the dishes.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: But like I need to make sure I get to bed, wake up early, work out Get to bed on time.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I like my husband and I like having at least like a good hour and a half to two hours after the kids have gone to bed to just kind of relax, whether it's like reading, watching a show, chatting, catching up.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Usually I'm like kind of prepping for the next day, getting bottles ready and lunch.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: My kids are in daycare at a little church right by our house, which is great.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, letting little things go, trying to have somewhat of a structure and a plan to your day.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I'm really big on to-do lists, like having a list of like, okay, these five things I know I need to do, what are the two most important?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Cause I probably won't get to all five and like get those done.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: And my husband's been really good at helping me.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Like just check off boxes and like find the easiest thing you can complete on your list, do it, complete it and then it's done.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: And then it kind of just feels good.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: You're like, okay, I accomplished something.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Or if you're like 30 minutes in on trying to get something done and you just can't, and there's like whatever the barrier may be as to like I can't complete it, let it go and figure it out later.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Set it aside for another day.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: And then, what about?
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: What about nutrition?
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Like food?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: So, being so busy and on the go, we we do end up ordering a lot of our meals, especially like lunches while we're both at work.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Um, I really like sweet green, I like field of greens, I like just doing like a quick power salad with good protein, whether it's chicken or salmon, a big hard boiled ed girl Cause.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: It's just quick, it's easy, you don't have to cook it.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I can eat it in the morning while I'm like prepping the kids for school, that kind of thing.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: And just water.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, drinking a ton of water is huge.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I think adding supplements to water, like specifically salt and potassium, is really good and helpful.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of those packed hydrations I'd like your opinion on that.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: We're so pushed and great, but we're finding that there's like a lot of sugar and chemicals and really all you kind of need is like salt.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no good question.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Like, um, the electrolytes are super important, and like making sure we get enough water and just in general, where, um, it seems like the things that the most common things we hear is potassium, um salt and then uh, magnesium magnesium and those three.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: And then enough, like there's all the ones you can throw in there, like if it's vitamin C, like ascorbic acid, um, and then I'll, you know some of the B B vitamins, um, and that just gets.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: It can get a lot, know what I mean?
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Like it gets overwhelming, yeah, um.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: And then, um, people also like what other supplements do I recommend and take and stuff.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of good things about turmeric and black pepper.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anti-inflammation, totally anti-inflammatory properties, and then ginger, ginger with that too.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: It's just challenging to get the right things yeah where um what I did is?
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I got um the turmeric extract powder from a company online like just a supplement company, but, oh my gosh, turmeric stains everything.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's so bad.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Have you ever got it in your nails?
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, 100%.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I'll be at the clinic and I'm like you know, doing needling or like working with somebody, and I'm like, don't worry, this is not jaundice, it's just turmeric, my turmeric.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I have a good turmeric roasted carrot recipe I'll have to give you, but you have to like massage the turmeric with olive oil onto the carrots and like my nails are going to be orange.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Or gloves for sure.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: That's a good idea.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I have access to a lot of gloves.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Imagine you'd be wearing gloves.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: But there was one morning where, like, I was up early, so like what I'll do is I'll just get the bag, because my plan was to um puree, pure ginger, like organic ginger from this, from the grocery store and then have the pulp and like the juice and stuff like that right, and then scoop in um in ice trays, a scoop of turmeric and black pepper at the appropriate ratios with ginger and then put some like orange juice in it and water.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: And then have these thick ice trays and put them in the freezer and freeze them, and then once a morning just pop an ice cube into a coffee or water, just have it melt and just drink it like water.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Well, um, the turmeric extract is so fine that it's like cinnamon.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Like you've ever tried to mix cinnamon, it doesn't mix.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mix, it, just floats.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: So I'd be putting in there.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to mix it and it's pluming as I'm doing that smoke.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: So I'm like dang it, so I'm like too deep at this point I might've all finished.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: So I did, and it was just challenging.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: So now I just like take a dry spoon, like a tiny spoonful of turmeric, and I just, you know, eat it dry with black pepper and black pepper extract.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: That sounds kind of potent.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Well, the black pepper can be a little spicy.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Spicy yeah, but it's not bad.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: So I took the black pepper.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I have a black pepper extract bag and a turmeric extract bag.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you don't need all the black pepper, it's just a little bit.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Because it improves the absorption by like 90% of your turmeric.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: So I mix it in the bag.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: So I mix it in the bag and every morning I carefully take a little spoon and I'll just, like you know, take it on dry with like a sip of water.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: But there's always turmeric on the cup that I just sipped because it was on my lips.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: And if, for some reason, my thumb dragged the bag on the way out of getting the turmeric, then it's on my thumb.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: And then there's one morning, by accident, I was trying to, you know, just eat it dry and some spilled off the spoon on my way to the mouth and I'm over the sink.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know how it happened, but it got on the floor.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I didn't realize it A little bit.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, getting ready for work.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I'm getting ready.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: It's like 6am or like 530 and like I put everything away.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I go to the restroom.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I of orange Stained from the kids All over the no, it was me.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I looked at my socks and I was like, oh, I was by myself in the morning.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I looked at my sock and it was on my foot.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, my gosh, it's so hard to get out.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: So, luckily, right at that moment, nicole woke up and, like she was at the baby and I think it was before Maverick was born, actually, but anyway was like I'm so sorry, I have to leave, yeah, but there's turmeric all over the floor and I was like there's any way that you can get, like you know, before the kids wake up, yeah, that you can get like the thing out.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: You know the vacuum thing, and she did, luckily it came up, pretty it came up, it came up simply.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: But I was like man, but now the vacuum thing, like the little lavage mac is good, that's gonna be stained.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: That's stained, I know.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: You have to wash that.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Slippery slope.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I was like this is never happening again.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I have to be extremely careful.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Tumor is actually one of the things.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: If I'm doing filler injections, I'll have people quit because it can actually lead to some more bruising easily.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: So it's like a blood thinner.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: It's like a blood thinning effect.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so turmeric's on my list of supplements to stop taking about a week before a filler treatment.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: With Botox it's not as important.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: The needle's smaller, we're not going as deep, yeah, but yeah.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I gotta look into that.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Turmeric's one of them.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Huh, it's not that it's bad, it's just I don look into that.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Um, but anyway, other than that, like supplement, wise, like for anyway electrolyte, like you know, hydration packets, I would say the priority that I've been hearing is magnesium, potassium and salt, um sodium, and then um turmeric, black pepper, ginger, if you can, and then um for sports performance, like for exercise and you know, and also some cognitive benefits, is creatine.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Creatine monohydrate.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been found some cognitive benefits to that too.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Are you hearing anything about the use of colostrum supplements?
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I?
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: have.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: What's your thought on that?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I'm like this is getting weird.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: It makes sense, but I haven't looked deeply into it.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I saw it and I'm like no, yeah, Like it seems like we're getting a little aggressive.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: What have you found?
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: What have you read?
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I've read about it being like kind of derived from cows and again, I totally get the health benefits.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I think there can be a lot for energy for hair growth, nails, skin.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of into it.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I haven't started trying it or taking it myself Like a shot, like a powder it comes in like a powder and you can like add it to smoothies or to coffee, that kind of thing.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: So what are the proposed benefits Like?
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: What is it for?
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I think for energy metabolism.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Energy metabolism yeah.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Cell growth and just helping support cells, and our body's constantly making new cells in every part, so I think it can help with that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I think it can help with memory and cognition and just focus Interesting I'm going to look more into it.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I know I got to look more into it too.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I was curious.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Your opinion, though.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard, yeah, other than I'm like, okay, this is a little much, but it makes sense.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely softening to the idea.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, I could see myself that too.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: You know, I guess I haven't really looked into it that much, but I know it's like the magic formula you know, like the ultimate healthy thing.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Totally Like what else would you give like a newborn infant?
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: That's extremely vulnerable and super dependent.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Not going to give them or her, you know, deli meat.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: No, exactly, let's just mix some of this in here.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Um, that's the most pure form of, you know, health.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, chemicals, you know that makes total sense.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Um, what?
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: No?
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you sharing more about your, your personal, like scheduling, and like your priorities yeah but, um, yeah, I think the sleep thing is super important.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: And then just consistency.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I think, oh, I saw a good uh talking about like things might not be 100, 100 of the time, like consistency, because consistency is the most important thing yeah but I would say like consistently making an effort to try to stay consistent yeah, with like nutrition and then fitness sleep yeah um, I saw this really good metaphor.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: It was a guy, it was an Instagram thing, you know, but I was like I like this one.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: It was like, all right, I'm trying to stay healthy in a diet and exercise.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I missed a week, or like I ate weird for a week time, or you know a five day period or whatever.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Like well, you know what?
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: All is lost.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Might as well, just like go away, I lost everything.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Momentum's lost.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: That's the same metaphor as like imagine trying to pour milk in a cup and a little bit spills, and like you know what Might as well, dump the whole jug.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Now you know, spill the whole thing out.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I like that analogy.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I was like that'd be dumb right.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Just take a paper towel.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: We do that Wipe it up and then just continue the path that you were on.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: That's something that I've always struggled with.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I missed the.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: The momentum's lost.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, everything's done.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: You know, might as well just like let the, let the floodgates open and, like we were talking earlier, just being in this phase of like an early business starting a new business on my own it's you got to really try hard to stay mentally focused and not let little failures and hiccups and steps along the way bring you down and drag you down and say I'm going to throw in the can.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah and steps along the way bring you down and drag you down and say I'm going to throw in the can.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally, just call it.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I totally agree with that and it only gets more.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: But like I think man like that entrepreneurial journey of a solo solopreneur, you know and then especially in a health and service-based industry.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Man it was the best thing ever.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it changed my life.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Like of perspective, beliefs um efficiency, time management, priorities, priorities.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Cause, like talking about like priorities, you know, like, oh my gosh, talking about sacrifices, you know, yeah, I mean we don't.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I don't do anything other than priorities my kids to be home and like be an active father, get to bed as quickly as I possibly can, as best as I can resist the temptation to snack at night.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I'd have a choice I can snack and then doom scroll, or I can like not snack and then just go to bed and go to bed.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I know it takes a lot of self-control.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: It does.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not, I'm, I'm, you know, me's my perfect yeah no, nobody is.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: But usually it's like if, if they're not in the house, I that way better, Exactly, you know.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: So I've always been a believer in that Like, if you don't buy it and it's not there, you can't have it.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, well, I might as well just go to bed.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I don't have it anyway.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, alcohol is the same way.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: You know I haven't, I don't not drink anymore.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I definitely drink less.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: But um, I've with that, with the shop was just not grocery shopping hungry yeah, that's my downfall, yeah because I'm like now I have all these snacks and stuff.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I was hungry and I was shopping.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: That's the problem, you know yeah I gotta prepare and plan one of my splurges is grocery ordering.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: It's just, it's so convenient especially with family with family, and um, then you're not in the store, you're not seeing it, you just you're like okay, here's my list, here's my cart, just here's my cart, just repeat it every, every week.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: That's super smart.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: Add on a few new things, remove some things, yeah.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: That's super smart.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: It's like a guilty splurge.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: That we uh, nothing wrong with that.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: We were for sure on that until they.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were on that until one recently canceled.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: But um, we actually enjoy going to the.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I kind of enjoy going to the grocery store with the kids.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, usually it's like Nicole will have Mav like in the cart or like on her, like on a Bjorn or something, yeah, and then I take the other two kids and we're just like sprinting up and down the aisles.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: We just get energy out.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, like just see that aisle, run down there and back as fast as you can.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Do that 10 times, yeah, exactly, both going opposite directions.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, they don't like run into somebody.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: You know that's funny, but um, that's a good energy outlet, you know.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so like.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: But anyway, talking about priorities, you know I usually go back to like this is my own.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I want to hear what you have to say, but, like I'm always, just health and wellness and longevity.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: What is exact?
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: What do I?
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: What do I want?
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: You know, what is it that I actually want?
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I want to be fit.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I want to have a good relationship with Nicole and my kids.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I want to get good sleep and be energetic and not just like lethargic all the time and foggy.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I want to be lean and healthy.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: What are the pathways?
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: That's what I really want.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Do I like you know?
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I really want to do like a different lifestyle?
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to be really good at fantasy football and win my league.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: That's going to be a lot of dedication and effort and something else.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: It's like what's going to matter, what's going to matter in the long 20 years from now.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, All right.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Well, if that's what I want, what's the pathway and the checklist?
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how do I structure my life, my time?
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: It usually doesn't include, you know, watching TV a lot, you know eating out Cause we try to like when we'd be healthy and like save and, of course, be financially responsible.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Exactly Um and then um a social life.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have no social life, At least I don't we.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: We have less of one, especially now having kids, but I think it changes.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I've got a good mom group at our daycare and totally on Fridays we kind of hang out, yeah, but it's more like spending 10 minutes talking to a mom at drop-off.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I had my social fix for exactly a little re-energizing, yeah, not just they're in it too.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: They're working.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: They've got kids like we're all kind of in it it's funny.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: It's like if someone's coming over for a play date yeah like oh, this is cool.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: You know like another adult, you know like we can just socialize, see, what they're up to.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Exactly, Other than just like don't pull her hair.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Put that toy down.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: You can't have candy right now.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Exactly, put the crayon away.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Was that the best decision we could have made today?
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's think about this.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: That's really funny.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Well, thanks.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: And what if people want to find you?
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: What would?
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: be yeah, so my social media has my address on it.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: It's at Crafted PB Crafted Aesthetics PB is my social media handle.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Crafted Aesthetics PB.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Yep and Crafted PB dot com.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: But all my information's on there.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: My phone, I can be texted, called, emailed.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: There's inquiry on my website.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: So yeah, website craftedpbcom or a crafted aesthetics, sorry, craftedaestheticspbcom or craftedaestheticspbinstagram.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Social media, yeah Cool.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: So, and my consults are free I can do virtual as well.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I could do a phone call, video call um just have a chat with you and see what your concerns are.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: And this would be people for skin health, skincare um anti-aging and aesthetics.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Cool Well, thanks for coming in.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: This is really cool.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: You're busy and stuff, we'll have to have another round of, you know, another podcast.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, catch up again.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Other stuff, um, and if you have any questions, we're always open to opinions, conflicting, uh, opinions, suggestions, options, questions, whatever.
• 51:07
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• 51:10
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• 51:12
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• 51:18
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