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Uncaged Host w/ Controversial Patriot Ret. MLB Closer John Rocker |EP654 · The Big Mig Show

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  All men are created equal, that they are endowed by their
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  Creator with certain unalienable rights.
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  By Liberty. If liberty means anything at
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  all, it means right to tell people what they do not want
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  Welcome back to the big, big SHOW.
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  Of course, I'm your host, Lance Miliaccio with my Co host George
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  Ballantine. Rise and grind, tip of the
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  spear, edge of the knife. You know how we do it on this
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  show. Cause of course, you know, if
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  liberty means anything at all, means the right to tell people
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  what they do not want to hear. And that's what we plan to do
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  each and every episode. If you're joining us for the
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  first time, you know, the plan is to educate and unify the
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  country because on this show, nobody's safe.
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  We go after both sides of the aisle because again, there's
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  only two teams, traders and Patriots.
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  George Ballantine, what's up, bro?
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  How was your weekend, man? How's it going?
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  My weekend was actually pretty good.
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  You know, it was good. A lot of good games this
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  weekend, to be honest. You know, good games between
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  football and baseball. Yankees took two out of the
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  three in Boston. That's good.
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  I'm happy with that. At least I didn't get killed.
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  My team, Giants lost. They suck.
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  But a lot of good games, close games and everything.
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  It was good, though. Giant they went into overtime.
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  Alabama had a game the other day I didn't see.
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  How did they do? They kicked ass.
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  They did good. It's good.
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  It's good. You got to be feeling.
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  Yeah they did good. Georgia almost lost.
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  They should have the kicker 3 seconds left and the other team
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  blew to field goal so he went to overtime.
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  They end up losing Georgia one. All right, well, let's thank one
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  Jingle in there. Well, you know, when we talk on
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  this show, we always believe it's better to be a warrior in a
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  garden than a gardener in a war. We're joined by a great guy.
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  I'm excited about this because I've followed him for a long
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  time. I've always watched his post.
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  I love how outspoken he is. Of course, you know, as a New
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  Yorker and George, George, myself, kind of a couple of New
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  York boys, we like people that speak what's on their mind, that
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  they don't sugarcoat it, they don't hold back.
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  Of course, I'm talking about John Rocker.
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  He's back in the the green room. George referred to it as the
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  bullpen for the day for a number of reasons.
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  You guys know why this guy's fiery, right?
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  He's a former MLB. They may not know why
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  everybody's a baseball fan. He's a relief pitcher.
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  Yeah, well, he he was a closer with a crazy, blazingly fast 98
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  mile per hour fastball. That was in the late 90s.
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  However, Lance, I will say his closing abilities did not work
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  well for him in 1999. Oh, no, you're you're taking a
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  pick at the Pennant. That's ugly.
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  George, let me tell you something.
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  John will take that personal. I know he will come out of that
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  bullpen. He may come after you for that.
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  But Sir, here's the deal. But this guy's brought.
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  He's filtered. He did good.
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  He he brought the He 19. He they want to see the Pennant
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  in 1998 with him. So you got a ring there?
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  No, I think it was 99 was the Pennant winning series season
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  for him, wasn't it? I hope I have that right.
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  Well, he's going to straighten us out to make sure.
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  I'm pretty sure he won in 99, but he had an interview in 99
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  with Sports Illustrated where he really spoke his mind.
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  It was raw and filtered. I thought it was a great
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  interview, but of course he took some He took.
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  He's probably one of the first guys to really deal with cancel
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  culture. I think it was early on when
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  when they came after him and they wouldn't have him for a lot
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  of reasons. But I but I love the way he's
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  come on social media. He's always said exactly what's
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  on his mind and we're going to talk about some of his career,
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  but we're also going to talk about current events because
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  he's had some posts that have gone really vital as of late,
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  some stuff about Charlie Kirk and otherwise.
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  Let's bring him in. There's no reason to leave him
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  backstage. I'm sure he's going to want to
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  take a shot at George early out of the gate and I and I would
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  support him in that. Sometimes you have to take the
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  shot if it's clean. All right, John Rocker, man,
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  thanks for coming to the game. Welcome him.
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  Welcome to the big, big show, John Rocker.
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  I just had to set my alarm when we didn't wake me up again.
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  Yeah, yeah, that intro took a while.
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  Guys, guys, do your show prep. That's all I got to say.
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  Your show Prep 99. Yeah, I knew it was 99.
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  No, you said 98. It was 99.
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  Yeah, we. Got 9098.
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  We got beat by the Padres, the NLCS.
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  Yeah, yeah, they, they, they got NLCS.
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  Exactly so. They they actually had it right.
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  Yankees got them four straight. That was back in a in a year.
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  What was it, 98992000? The Yankees won ten straight
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  World Series games, I think. Yeah, yeah.
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  Unbelievable. That team, that team.
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  Was Oh yeah, wait, you got swept in.
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  You got swept four O 99. Yeah, and the Padres got swept
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  in 98 Yankees beat. I'm sorry you won in in 2021.
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  My bad. Yeah, yeah, many, many, many
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  years later. That was old and broke down.
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  You won, though. Yeah, that's what he did.
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  Yeah. The Yankees played Arizona, I
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  believe it was Arizona next year was the Mets next year and won
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  the 1st 2. At one point in time, the
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  Yankees won 10 consecutive World Series games.
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  That that might be one of the best teams in in in the history
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  of baseball, one of the unbelievable staff they had.
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  OK, that. Was that that was crazy.
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  It really went in for that for obviously for the we all grew up
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  as Yankees fans. I don't know.
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  I couldn't tell. I always, I always questioned
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  giving a bunch of drunk people bats on bat day.
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  I was never sure about that but. I know I'll tell you a quick a
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  quick aside. So you've been to Yankee Stadium
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  a number of times, I'm assuming? Yeah, maybe once or twice.
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  I am I pitching in in janky Stadium or what?
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  What year it was. Look back and check the runner a
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  second. I see Andrew Jones sprinting in
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  from center fields. This is like, this is like live
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  game action. I'm like the hell, I'll step
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  off. Andrew runs up to the second
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  base umpire system saying that everybody off the field like the
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  fuck is going on here getting dugout.
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  Umpire's talking to Bob. Yeah, there was Bleacher
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  Creatures in centerfield, the centerfield bleachers Yanks.
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  They throwing bored darts at Andrew Jones darts.
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  Oh no. Do you play darts with the lawn?
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  Darts. The big lawn dart.
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  Oh yeah. There, there, there.
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  That's. Those are your pythons, right
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  there. Those are your pythons.
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  Yeah, you know, there, there's no doubt.
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  My, my, what might have been you?
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  Yeah, you know, I never threw any lawn darts in anybody.
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  We might have thrown some trash on the field.
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  A different talk. I can say with 100% certainty
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  was never me because I never sat in the bleachers so.
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  I'm putting too much, too much money in there for the
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  bleachers, yeah. Yeah, you know, George might
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  have. Been what was the one year was I
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  can't believe it was there Shay the private mission was a can a
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  canned good like like a canned yeah that was shade wife and.
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  Shade did that. Yeah.
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  You want, you want you all. You want those animals, those
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  monsters coming here for a 900 cent can of beans.
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  Yeah. Yeah, it was.
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  It was. Crazy, you know that?
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  How much it? Was a crazy crowd back then, you
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  know it's. Changed.
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  Well thought out, not a well thought out promo.
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  Yeah, the, the, the ground is still pretty animated.
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  But of course, you know, back then, I don't know, things have
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  changed, you know, you know, even Major League sports, it
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  just seems so different now. There's so many things
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  politicized about it, but I want to go back a little bit with
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  you. I was, I looked at some of your
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  history here. You know, first you grew up in
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  Georgia, but you threw three no hitters.
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  I hope I have that right in high school.
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  Yeah, something like that. I mean, that's, that's, that's,
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  that's crazy for a high school ball.
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  Ball high school hitters there, they're tough.
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  And you were drafted by the Braves straight out of high
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  school, correct? I was I was supposed to.
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  I noticed you you guys brought up some some Georgia football a
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  few minutes ago. I'm a drunk, obnoxious Georgia
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  fan. I was supposed to play college.
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  My college baseball there gave the gave the scholarship back
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  when but I started my career with Atlanta.
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  Did you ever have a what if moment?
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  Did you ever think maybe that was a good or bad decision?
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  A couple of hours ago. Yeah, a couple hours ago, as a
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  matter of fact. Wait, are you a Dogs fan?
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  Drunk, obnoxious Roll Tide 24/7, baby.
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  Yeah, I know I'm not allowed to swear on the shell.
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  I am right. Blame Evan and.
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  Evan set you up for that? I always want to check, you
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  know, and make sure the FCC is not going to fucking fucking
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  hand me together. No, no, you, we we go all in on
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  this show. You pretty much there's it's
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  since we're on rumble, we've already been suspended on
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  YouTube multiple times. Since we're on Rumble, we pretty
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  much say whatever the hell we want.
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  YouTube has never been a huge fan of this show.
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  For sure. We've had our fallouts with
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  them. Of course, all we ever did was
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  post the truth, but you know how that is.
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  They don't always like the truth over.
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  There Oh you, you YouTube, you know controlled by the like
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  controlled by the libs. So yeah, so let.
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  Me ask you about your rookie year.
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  Do you have any stories you haven't shared yet?
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  I know you, you know, and, and obviously you authored quite a
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  few of your stories, but anything behind the scenes that
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  happened to your rookie year that was pretty funny or that
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  you were never really mentioned before?
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  You know, rookie year has been 27 years ago.
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  Jesus Christ. You know, I won't say anything
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  funny. I will tell you probably one of
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  the funniest stories I've got. You guys are obviously a fan of
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  Jim Tommy. Yeah, one of the most beautiful
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  guys ever played with. Jim Tommy.
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  Yeah. This is my first year in
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  Cleveland. This is my rookie year in
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  Cleveland. If we want to focus on rookie
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  years, Jim, Baby Huey, the guy's got ankles for wrist.
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  You know, that was back the steroid era.
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  Jim was absolutely naughty. Steroid guy was just country
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  bucking strong and it's August dog days.
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  We're all dragging ass. And you know, I was, I was a
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  guy, you know, I did. I've had to keep it with the
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  Joneses. I'm not going to walk into a
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  knife gunfight with a knife. So it was me, Jim, Tommy, Travis
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  Fryman and Russell Brandian in the the clubhouse in Cleveland
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  in dog days. We're all dragging asses, you
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  know, 101 degrees every freaking day and walk up on a
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  conversation where Travis Fryman is talking to Jim about creatine
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  chips like 3132 had never heard about creatine.
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  Like Jimmy, you've been in the big league for 10 years.
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  You know what creatine is. All right, Jimmy, whatever.
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  And so they're sitting there listening to Travis.
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  He was something a guy, but he was and Travis is not a steroid
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  guy either. Was Brandon just was just clear
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  the air on that. Listen to Travis tell Jim about
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  creating. He was like a 13 year old boy
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  hearing about sex for the first time.
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  I mean, Jim was like, Oh yeah, I need I need some of that.
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  Oh yeah, they're like, hey, don't do this, don't do that.
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  And he was like, yeah, but I need some.
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  I need some of that. Yeah, go do some.
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  I'm just some of that. Travis finishes off his
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  instruction with Jim. Make sure if you take creating
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  Jim, make sure you hydrate. I shit you not, Jim's next time
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  was where can I get some of that hydrate at?
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  Oh no. That was Jimmy's comment.
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  We all believe he does with just got to walk away like that's
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  enough. Too, you know some of.
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  Those guys in a country. Strong, though, you have to give
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  me credit, right? Hold on John, move back to your
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  left because you're cutting your half yourself off there.
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  So they want they want to see your beautiful mug.
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  Yeah. Why?
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  But they don't look look real hard.
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  It is interesting when you meet a country strong athlete.
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  You know, there was a couple of guys, I remember I was, I was a
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  government contractor at one point and there's a couple of
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  guys that you could just see. These guys were burly from the
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  get go. They probably came out like a 12
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  LB baby, you know what I mean? They were just burly.
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  They didn't. Need a lot of help in the 4th
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  grade. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I mean, I used everything, of course, always.
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  I used every performance enhancing drug I could get my
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  hands on. They did a bunch of.
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  Look how well. They worked for you.
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  You. Know.
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  Yeah, look what it did for my hand.
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  Yeah, you used to be endorsed, should be endorsing Winstrol on
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  your show here. Exactly.
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  Maybe some anavar, some deca, you know, go go, Maybe, maybe.
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  A What's the worst thing now? Stack.
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  You know the worst thing now I turned 51 in a month, which is,
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  which is depressing, you know? So yeah, I tell people now I've
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  got to take the the TRT just stop for replacement therapy,
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  yada yada, a 34 year old girlfriend and yeah, she's not
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  going to have any, any slip UPS in in in a certain room of the
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  house. Hopefully, hopefully you're,
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  you're bringing the game there. Yeah, so now I say I used to
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  take steroids so I can play better.
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  Now I think just so I can get a boner.
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  That's that's why I take them just like just so I can.
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  Get a boner. Well, it's still performance
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  enhancing. It's just a different kind of
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  performance. John, we don't, we don't want
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  you. We don't want your reputation to
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  be ruined in the city. What did it?
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  What did it give me to sypenate? And, and in fact, good because
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  she's more forgiving than commissioner is because she
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  doesn't drug test me or anything.
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  So yeah, of. Course I like to.
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  Say no, But this is all me. This is all me you.
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  Don't have to carry around any fake urine with you, so maybe
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  just in case you have to. Yeah, or, or, or drink tons of
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  apple cider vinegar. Like the day of or any other
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  test. You have to choke.
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  Choke. You have some apple cider
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  vinegar, which tastes disgusting, by the way.
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  It's awful. Yeah, yeah.
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  What did? It's fine.
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  What did it give? You you cipinate.
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  I I I switched back more cipinate and I think.
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  I want to give you both. What do you think?
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  How many makes a week? Back and forth what 1 milligram
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  a week, 250? Yeah.
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  Yeah, it gives you back your energy and everything too.
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  It's not, I mean. Oh it definitely does it letting
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  you pencil for sure. Yeah, my, my wife is an IFBB
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  bikini competitor, pro pro. And you know, of course the the
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  performance enhanced drugs are still pretty prevalent in all
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  divisions. Is he?
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  Is he currently active? Yeah, she is.
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  She's actually, she's got a show coming up, I think in another 60
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  or 90 days. But.
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  She's she's going to be doing probably at this point Masters,
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  although she competes and opens, she's taking some seconds.
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  She's just never taken a first which you need the 1st to get to
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  the Olympia, but she's got a pretty.
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  I've been all I I dated a girl named Alicia Marie for about
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  three 3 1/2 years, black girl and for four years the media
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  said it was a publicity stunt. She, she actually lived, lived
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  in New York. She lived at night, Chelsea.
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  That's a long publicity run for you, yeah.
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  So I kept saying, yeah, this is this is a, you know, a hell of
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  an effort just trying to fool you fucking clowns.
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  But if she she got her pro card at at the Arnold I think where
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  she got her pro card. Yeah, that's a tough, that's a
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  tough show. The Arnold's no joke.
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  You really? Yeah, she got her card, you
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  know, but that's, that's a hard life.
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  I'll say hard life, but you know, a lot of these a lot of
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  these folks though that you know own in season offseason and
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  they'll blow a whole bit, you know, gain 1015 lbs during the
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  winter. I mean she's stuck to her diet
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  24/7 365. I mean you can really pressing
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  on the side of 11 Aldens and like how do you do this shit
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  too? But.
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  I want to tell you something. It's really like that.
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  And the problem is the science is also constantly changing.
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  I remember when creatine first came out and that was a game
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  changer. Of course there was Andrew
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  Stenodine and there was lots of other products out there that
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  different people use that, you know, and then of course, and
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  they put a ban on it and it was growth hormone.
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  But it's interesting how the technology has changed so much.
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  The peptides now have taken a key position.
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  Along that, have you ever have you ever tried tharms?
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  You know, I haven't, but I've tried some other ones.
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  I've got a bad shoulder. I what?
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  Is it? What's it called?
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  Tharms. Self anded and regulating
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  modulators. I don't exactly actually though
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  what the hell that means. But when I was training for that
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  celebrity fight, that non fight with Pat Mahone senior my I got
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  a dear friend of mine Atlanta that owns 5 rejuvenation clinics
• 16:58
  and he hooked me up. He said about a $5000 care
• 17:01
  package of just any things you want and there was 5 sarms in
• 17:05
  there. I mean an anabolic without the
• 17:08
  side effects and come on getting your ass shredded holy shit.
• 17:12
  I was down about maybe 8% body fat and it's.
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  And it's really unbelievable really at the end of the day how
• 17:19
  the industry's constantly changes.
• 17:21
  Even now. I saw another one of peptide the
• 17:23
  other, I think it's NA 931. It was yeah.
• 17:28
  The the now they're blending them, you know, where they can
• 17:30
  actually get muscle gain. You don't lose, you can lose
• 17:33
  fat, you know, so the science is constantly transitioning and
• 17:36
  that's tough enough to keep on top of it.
• 17:38
  But I want to talk about the 99 season you you racked up I think
• 17:41
  38 saves and of course the. Brace Storm the World Series man
• 17:46
  playoffs saves out. Well, it was, it was a big year
• 17:52
  for you, of course. Did you have a, let me ask you,
• 17:54
  a lot of guys, dude, did you have a pregame ritual at all?
• 17:57
  Anything that you used to do or anything that you had that maybe
• 17:59
  you were a little superstitious. Same pair of socks or I had to
• 18:03
  eat 4 Nutter butters in the first inning and a banana in the
• 18:06
  fifth. There we go.
• 18:08
  And we didn't have Nutter Butters at the clubhouse.
• 18:10
  One of the clubies was going to the store and get me some Nutter
• 18:12
  Butters and I'll pay you 50 bucks and get me 4 packs of
• 18:15
  Nutter Butters. One pack for every day, every
• 18:17
  every day in the six. And that was the trick.
• 18:19
  What was the fun? Did you have anybody that did a
• 18:21
  pre game ritual? What was the craziest pre game
• 18:24
  ritual that you became aware of? Anything.
• 18:27
  Nothing 2 nuts. Yeah, that nothing, nothing that
• 18:32
  would live is like, like show worthy.
• 18:33
  Like, what the Hell's that guy thinking?
• 18:36
  Yeah, I remember it was a Turk Wendell.
• 18:37
  He used to leap over the over the baseline on his way to and
• 18:41
  from the dugout that was, you know, live, you know, nothing
• 18:45
  really comes, you know, of course, guys doing ridiculous
• 18:49
  shit on a daily basis. But something.
• 18:51
  Well, all right, this, this, I don't know if this I guess we'll
• 18:54
  call for pregame ritual. Then we spoke off off air.
• 18:59
  My, my podcast, the uncased John Walker podcast.
• 19:03
  We're in our 6th episode and I'm I'm filming again this week.
• 19:05
  We always shoot about four or five shows at a time.
• 19:07
  I'm filming again this week with Pete Rose Junior.
• 19:10
  I've known Pete for 20 plus years and I played with Pete
• 19:17
  once, one of all Puerto Rico and once when I was rehabbing my
• 19:19
  busted shoulder for the Long Island ducks down centralized.
• 19:24
  It was like 213 off the off the LIE.
• 19:27
  Yeah. So anyway, so we had a a female
• 19:30
  trainer, her name was Dottie and we loved.
• 19:33
  Again. And John, you're off to the side
• 19:34
  there. OK, man, it's all right.
• 19:39
  It's all good. So anyway, so I call it a
• 19:43
  ritual. I'm not really sure, but he he
• 19:45
  did it every day. And there's certain things that
• 19:47
  you do that are funny. If you do them one time, it's
• 19:49
  pretty fucking funny. If you do them every day, it
• 19:52
  gets really, really funny. Like, like the, the redundancy
• 19:55
  you see sometimes in Family Guy, the, the, the jokes the writers
• 19:58
  write where it's just over and over and the more it's done, the
• 20:00
  funnier it gets. So Pete Rose Junior, like I
• 20:04
  said, we had a female trainer. Her name was Dottie.
• 20:06
  Dottie was a bit heavy set and we used to fuck with Dottie
• 20:11
  relentlessly. And this was a good sport.
• 20:13
  We would fart on her, white boogers on her.
• 20:15
  I mean, we just did what, what, what degenerate 30 year old ball
• 20:19
  players do what we've been doing our whole lives.
• 20:21
  You know you you when when you, you, you get in a pro ball. 18
• 20:25
  years old. Great form of years 18 about 25.
• 20:28
  And when you're being raised by a bunch of other type Aida
• 20:32
  generous, you come out kind of fucked up when you're done
• 20:34
  playing you just too. So anyway, so Pete Rose junior
• 20:38
  was a huge, I'm assuming still this Star Wars thing.
• 20:42
  And that was back when all that new new Star Wars trilogy stuff
• 20:45
  was was coming out, you know, so he was back and then watching
• 20:47
  Star Wars and all that. So he had a Darth Vader mask and
• 20:52
  he would always be coming from for batting practice.
• 20:54
  He would go shower after BP before the game every single
• 20:58
  day. So the clubhouse is here,
• 21:00
  shower's here, training room right in the middle with one big
• 21:03
  like 8 foot wide doorways. Pete Junior does not have the
• 21:07
  best body. In fact, his body's pretty bad.
• 21:10
  Ginger freckles, little tuffs of red hair on his nipples and
• 21:14
  whatnot. He would, he would put his Darth
• 21:16
  Vader mask on. Do it one time.
• 21:19
  It's funny. Well, that one time, but he did
• 21:21
  this every single fucking day. His shower shoes would carry his
• 21:26
  towel put his Darth Vader mask on what was little chubby body
• 21:31
  pass Dottie in the training room turn to to to to to Dottie go
• 21:35
  Dottie, I am your father. He pulled the shower, did it
• 21:41
  every single day, just full. That's.
• 21:43
  Bordering. On.
• 21:45
  That is bordering on creepy. One time was funny, multiple
• 21:48
  times might be creepy. But I would not be laughing
• 21:51
  about it this much else He did like 100 straight days.
• 21:55
  Yeah, that that makes it. Well, he was committed.
• 21:57
  He was committed to the project. He was all the way in.
• 21:59
  You can't blame him. Makes it legendary every day.
• 22:01
  Hey what time is it? It must be 458.
• 22:05
  He just gave Dottie full front of his Darth Vader mask on.
• 22:08
  Yeah. Every day, same time.
• 22:11
  And you guys are known for your pranks.
• 22:12
  You know, of course, Major League sports in general,
• 22:15
  everybody's got some of their go to pranks and some of your best.
• 22:18
  What did you have a go to prank you used to do to people at all?
• 22:21
  I mean a go to. Yeah, I was, I was a, especially
• 22:25
  at Braves clubhouse, you know, was kind of young.
• 22:27
  And you look around Hall of Famer, Hall of Famer, Hall of
• 22:29
  Famer, Hall of Famer, you know, I was I wasn't quite, you know,
• 22:33
  to the level like getting those guys singing those guys.
• 22:38
  I'm trying to think, well, I will tell you he's on a prank.
• 22:40
  This is this is kind of par for the course and and I'm sure
• 22:42
  we'll get into politics here at some point.
• 22:44
  And this is this is a little precursor of how much I fucking
• 22:47
  hate liberals. So, you know, after all my SI
• 22:51
  shit going on the road was fuck, I just a nightmare.
• 22:54
  I mean it's. Just, well, let me stop you
• 22:55
  there for a minute because the audience might not know.
• 22:57
  So in 99, you had that. Well, it's become legendary now.
• 23:00
  It's kind of, it was controversial and you you got
• 23:03
  you faced massive boos. You even had to get an NYPD
• 23:07
  escort, I think at Shea Stadium as I remember.
• 23:10
  And that so for the audience, he did it had an interview where he
• 23:14
  was really outspoken. He's the John Rocker you guys
• 23:16
  know and love on social media. And a lot of people took it, you
• 23:20
  know, and, and made all kinds of statements against you.
• 23:23
  So take it from there, John. I just want to make sure the
• 23:25
  audience knew about that, because they might, yeah.
• 23:26
  So anyway, so this this goes on for years.
• 23:29
  Every time I go on the road I'm just going to catch a load of
• 23:31
  shit. Home games were were great, but
• 23:35
  Rd. games were an absolute pain in the ass, especially when I go
• 23:38
  to places, you know, liberal cities like New York, like
• 23:40
  Baston, like Philly. So I was in Seattle.
• 23:43
  I was in Seattle for this one specific incident.
• 23:46
  We know how liberal you know Seattle's and how, how, how,
• 23:49
  how, how tolerant of conservatives that the Seattle
• 23:53
  folks are. So that was back when I guess
• 23:57
  they're still doing it now. All these clowns that designed
• 23:59
  the same, they're trying to make them so fan friendly.
• 24:01
  They're doing everything but let the fans come in the fucking
• 24:03
  clubhouse. And so in Seattle is conforce
• 24:08
  where you got all the beer vendors and the food vendors and
• 24:10
  all that. A chain link fence in my mound.
• 24:14
  Like seriously, dude, like I can like like reach the fence and
• 24:16
  just like poke you like why that doesn't seem good.
• 24:19
  Why do you give these fucking animals this much access to, to,
• 24:23
  you know, to, to tell us that we're, we're trying to work.
• 24:26
  And so I'm sitting there for a good 2 1/2 hours just there's
• 24:29
  about 3 or 4 deep of, of, of maybe a dozen guys that that did
• 24:34
  not leave the entire game. They're just oh, I mean 2 1/2
• 24:38
  hours this shift. I finally have enough.
• 24:41
  I get up, I go to the the bathroom they have down there
• 24:45
  forcing the bullpen take a piss in the toilet, get a cup, scoop
• 24:49
  it out. Half float water.
• 24:51
  Half pissed water fucking made them wear it.
• 24:55
  Oh, real tough. You threw water on us.
• 24:57
  You threw water on us. Not really.
• 24:59
  You better check maybe you need to check Adna swab on that.
• 25:02
  You took a little bit of John home with you that today, and I
• 25:05
  don't blame you. Some of this behavior by and
• 25:08
  we've seen it, you know, cross country on this show, like we
• 25:10
  said earlier, we go after both sides of the aisle.
• 25:13
  It it took a moment for me to get, I guess, weaponized in my
• 25:17
  own way. I don't know if I was
• 25:18
  radicalized. A lot of people said it's the
• 25:20
  Charlie Kirk moment that did that.
• 25:21
  But in 2011 you dropped your autobiography Scars and strikes
• 25:27
  and and you were really outspoken in that and you just
• 25:29
  said it like was was there something?
• 25:31
  You know, I got to ask you this, John, because everybody has
• 25:33
  George and I had our own moments.
• 25:34
  Of course, there was many things, you know, 911 and other
• 25:37
  things triggered me. I, I, I struggle with the dark
• 25:41
  side. My problem is I start thinking
• 25:44
  about the well meaning that because of my background,
• 25:48
  sometimes I think the easiest solution for a lot of what's
• 25:50
  going on in Washington DC would be a giant industrial wood
• 25:53
  chipper. And I, I feel like sometimes we
• 25:59
  candy ass what's going on there? And when you wrote scars and
• 26:02
  strikes, was there something prior to that that politicized
• 26:04
  you? Was it the that was it when you
• 26:06
  when you got attacked for the Sports Illustrated cover?
• 26:09
  Was it because you grew up in a very political family maybe or a
• 26:12
  very patriotic family? You know what, what kind of
• 26:15
  brought you kind of that thought process?
• 26:19
  The article is what is what created the reason for that
• 26:23
  book. I think I have a line.
• 26:26
  Again, I have not read that book probably since I've finished it,
• 26:29
  but I had a line in the book. There's a cliche.
• 26:33
  Don't ever. Sorry, my bad.
• 26:36
  Don't. Don't ever pick a fight with
• 26:39
  someone who buys 8 by the truck. Look, and I have a quote in
• 26:42
  there. Well, I decided to buy my own
• 26:43
  truck. So I want to write that book as
• 26:45
  kind of a counterbalance, a fight back against, you know,
• 26:49
  against all, all of the propaganda that had been letting
• 26:52
  against me for below those many years, about 10 years at that
• 26:55
  point. And, and yeah, I wanted the,
• 26:58
  the, you know, that that article written by that power suck of
• 27:01
  shit, Jeff Pearlman, which if you, if you look at his history,
• 27:04
  everything the guy writes is motherfuking somebody.
• 27:08
  He, he wrote a book about Walter Payton after Walter was dead.
• 27:12
  The whole book is motherfucking about his drug usage, his
• 27:17
  infidelity, his bastard kids. I mean, all like after the guy's
• 27:20
  dead, you shit me and to, to, to, to trash a, you know, a
• 27:25
  national icon like Walter Payton.
• 27:27
  I mean, he wrote a book about the, the 1986 Amazing Mets.
• 27:30
  What angle do you think he took all our transgressions and
• 27:34
  etcetera, etcetera. I mean, the the guys just
• 27:36
  absolutely. They're asking you in the chat,
• 27:39
  what's the book's name? You guys are talking book.
• 27:43
  Stars and strikes George. Stars and strikes the cover
• 27:46
  George. If you grab it, throw the cover
• 27:48
  up for the audience so they can see it.
• 27:50
  Yeah. So go ahead, John.
• 27:51
  I mean, he cut you off there, so go ahead.
• 27:53
  So you're right. I mean, he did write a a bunch
• 27:55
  of motherfucking. Well, the the the.
• 27:57
  Nothing like taking a shot at somebody that's dead, that can't
• 27:59
  defend himself, right? I mean, that's.
• 28:01
  Just just just just coward, honestly, just unnecessary.
• 28:04
  Like what? What are you fucking trying to
• 28:05
  prove here? You know, I could go on and on
• 28:08
  because I, I've been given a ear full of dirt, this guy over the
• 28:12
  years about just what a piece of shit he is.
• 28:15
  But never let's, let's cut that, you know, cut that short.
• 28:17
  So the way the interview happened, the interview occurred
• 28:20
  over an entire day. It was like an 8910 hour
• 28:22
  interview. I love talking politics.
• 28:25
  I was only 24 years old at the time and did not get the memo.
• 28:29
  As a conservative, do not talk. Were you always Did you come
• 28:32
  from a political family? Was your?
• 28:33
  Was your? Were your.
• 28:34
  Parents political, but yeah. But one of the reasons why I did
• 28:36
  go to college for a couple of quarters during the offseason,
• 28:40
  university, university and I was I was going to be a poli sci
• 28:43
  major. I major in political science.
• 28:46
  Yeah, that's what I took in college.
• 28:48
  Political science major. Yeah, it's.
• 28:51
  We just lost them. He was touching back here.
• 28:57
  He was touching his phone, his phone using his camera.
• 28:59
  He probably hit off. I already know.
• 29:02
  It happens sometimes. We'll get him back here in a
• 29:03
  minute. I want to talk John when he
• 29:05
  comes, George, when he comes back.
• 29:06
  We'll bring up his stint on Survivor with his girlfriend.
• 29:11
  Was he, Was he ever married? You know, I don't know.
• 29:14
  We'll, we'll ask him that when he comes back.
• 29:15
  I don't really know, but he had a a really attractive girlfriend
• 29:18
  named Julie McGee and he you. Know what, Lance?
• 29:21
  Let's go to break. We were at the mark anyway.
• 29:22
  Let's go to break. Yeah.
• 29:23
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  John, I've been waiting to ask this question because I think
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  there's and I'm trying to I'm I can I picture in my mind you got
• 34:38
  you the MLB made you do some sensitivity training or classes.
• 34:43
  You want to hear your isn't hear about that, huh?
• 34:45
  I want to hear about that. I want you to tell us, but then
• 34:47
  I have a question to ask or something, so yeah, please tell.
• 34:51
  I got to hear about this because I I.
• 34:52
  Can't oxy moron sensitivity training for John Rogers?
• 34:56
  I can't see you in moron. I can't see you in sensitivity
• 34:58
  training, but you know. This this story's going to take
• 35:01
  about 45 seconds, which will be 15 seconds longer than I was in
• 35:05
  sensitivity training. So anyway.
• 35:11
  Plus, it's nuts, the old, the Oldstein Commissioner, Bud Selig
• 35:16
  clown, by the way, absolute utter clown.
• 35:20
  Yeah, we, we, we think, we think today's commissioner's a clown,
• 35:23
  which he is. But yeah, Selig Selig, you know,
• 35:25
  definitely shown the ropes of how to be a fucking Dick Head of
• 35:28
  the Commissioner's Office. So, yeah, my, my, my punishment
• 35:32
  levied for speaking my mind with MLB was a A2 week suspension, 14
• 35:37
  inch suspension. I think it was like A50.
• 35:42
  No, they, they, they tried to levy a $50,000 fine.
• 35:46
  The association got 11. I got it reduced to 5000, which
• 35:51
  I didn't pay $1.00 for that fine.
• 35:53
  And then it was X amount of hours of sensitivity training.
• 35:57
  So I still, I can take you right where the office is today around
• 36:00
  Cheshire Bridge Rd. Cheshire Bridge and Lennox Road
• 36:02
  right there in Bucket, Atlanta. I walk into some, you know, some
• 36:08
  sweater wearing, you know, palm pedaled hand.
• 36:13
  I'm not going to say all the words I'd like to pussy.
• 36:16
  Did he have a. Sweaty handshake Did he have a
• 36:18
  sweaty? Yeah, yeah.
• 36:19
  And, you know, dad bod and the the perfectly groomed little
• 36:23
  little beard and the like, you should have been part of the Bee
• 36:25
  Gees, but it's 30 years after the Bee Gees.
• 36:28
  So what are you doing dressed like that?
• 36:30
  You're like a fucking idiot. So I walk in there and, you
• 36:33
  know, they always try to, like, buddy up and get you started.
• 36:35
  He's feeling comfortable. He's like, you know, John, I
• 36:38
  don't, I don't, I don't really see any reason why you should be
• 36:40
  here. Oh, yeah.
• 36:42
  Then I'm leaving. Got up, walked out.
• 36:46
  So after. But you're saying as well, like,
• 36:49
  I don't really. I don't really think you belong
• 36:51
  to your job like you know, do you do?
• 36:53
  You think I. Think so?
• 36:54
  Hold on. Let me let me just chill for a
• 36:56
  second. So you weren't married at the
• 36:58
  time, unfortunately, but you should have really got some.
• 37:02
  Any girl, any broad, whatever, pick one, put a ring on her
• 37:04
  finger and tell her she should have sued the MLB saying, yo, I
• 37:09
  didn't, I didn't marry no be engaged with no soy boy.
• 37:12
  You're turning him into a soy boy with this sensitivity crap.
• 37:15
  That would have been a great lawsuit.
• 37:17
  You think so? That what turned out for me
• 37:19
  wouldn't have been great. You know you.
• 37:22
  Could have, you could have shoot him too, he said.
• 37:23
  Look, I'm married. I.
• 37:24
  Can get married now, talk a bunch of shit.
• 37:26
  We can. I can try it when I'm 50.
• 37:29
  Listen. Listen, if they can change, if
• 37:32
  they can change the statutes on Donald Trump, maybe you can
• 37:35
  still open that back up. You can open a case back up if
• 37:37
  they'll change the laws for you on the bill.
• 37:39
  There you go. Seems to be standard operating
• 37:41
  procedure. George, I might get you some
• 37:42
  sensitivity training. I don't know.
• 37:43
  I'm thinking about it. Maybe somebody hook us up.
• 37:46
  He's got to connect in the sensitive.
• 37:47
  If anybody needs sensitivity training, I think it's.
• 37:50
  You Yeah, it's not here, here. Here's what a what a what a sack
• 37:53
  of shit. Just crawl under his desk, hide,
• 37:57
  bite his lip because he knows what's going on is good for the
• 37:59
  game, even though it's I want to say morally, ethically, maybe
• 38:05
  something not right about all the PEDs back in the day.
• 38:08
  And I have heard guys like Rod crew and George Brett and those
• 38:11
  guys, I've heard them verbatim say no PED guy will ever be in
• 38:14
  my Hall of Fame. I heard Rod crew say that like
• 38:17
  clear as bell like so they're all people that didn't like it.
• 38:20
  Was it was it good for the game? Was it more entertaining?
• 38:23
  And then people I was I've said that for years.
• 38:26
  Maisley baseball was more entertaining when you got Mark
• 38:30
  McGuire hitting 70 hold on and battling Sammy Slosen that yes,
• 38:35
  he's painting himself. You have 40,000 just over
• 38:38
  batting practice to watch McGuire.
• 38:39
  You know, hit him on the roof and hit the freaking big
• 38:42
  Chick-fil-A chicken out in the in the left field.
• 38:44
  Everybody wants everybody wants to see that at the end of the
• 38:47
  day. I've always thought that the you
• 38:51
  know, when you think about professional sports and I don't
• 38:53
  care what professional sport we're talking about, even
• 38:56
  performance enhancing. I think it's part of the
• 38:58
  industry even in special forces government contract and we all
• 39:02
  use performance enhancing because at the end of the day,
• 39:06
  yeah. And so.
• 39:08
  If it's available to everybody and they can get it.
• 39:10
  So it's really not and. It's only cheap if you win,
• 39:13
  otherwise you're trying to feel better about yourself.
• 39:15
  But anyway, so let's get back to the point I'm trying to make.
• 39:17
  See, look here. So you know, back back in the
• 39:21
  day collected the collective bargain agreement.
• 39:23
  They could not test us for any drug whatsoever.
• 39:25
  Not cocaine, not marijuana, not anything unless we had an off
• 39:28
  field, you know, incident. I had an off field incidents.
• 39:31
  You could not test me. Bud sends down in January for me
• 39:36
  to take a test for steroids and I'm like, OK, I'm not doing that
• 39:39
  shit. My eating is like, they're
• 39:40
  pretty pissed at you. I'd go ahead and take the test.
• 39:43
  Failed miserably. Did you ever hear anything from
• 39:48
  Bud Selig about I failed my test but I failed my test and maybe
• 39:52
  we should be testing the whole league and push for that the
• 39:54
  next CBA? Absolutely not.
• 39:57
  And of course. He's he's not Mr. Candidate by
• 40:02
  any fucking means, but he's not done over the thing we caught
• 40:05
  the one we got, we got, we got, we got the guys think stairways
• 40:08
  in the big leagues. He sees what's going on.
• 40:11
  He knows half a league is on it, but he sure as hell didn't let
• 40:14
  it get out that I was taking it because that the can of worms
• 40:18
  that would open now. So he sat on it, knowing,
• 40:21
  knowing the whole time exactly what's going on.
• 40:23
  Don't you think the testing is kind of a weapon that the, you
• 40:27
  know, the pros use against players?
• 40:31
  Sometimes it's not disclosed even when they get caught, but
• 40:33
  they use it to hang it over their head with the threat of
• 40:36
  well, you know, I could end your career because you know about
• 40:37
  your testing that didn't. Work that and, and get contract
• 40:40
  stuff too. You know, they, they use to hang
• 40:42
  on their head about, you know, maybe I, I get a $5,000,000
• 40:45
  discount next time. This guy's contracts too.
• 40:47
  But you know, the, the, the whole thing and, and the, you
• 40:51
  know, the, the folks out there with drinking problems and drug
• 40:54
  problems and all that, they were creating a huge stigma.
• 40:57
  Oh my God I can't believe the athletes throw steroids as I do
• 41:01
  my line of blow. You know you self-righteous pile
• 41:04
  of shit. You know, he'll be doing it for
• 41:07
  for for PR reasons that they call such Flack, such backlash
• 41:11
  over the PR of this, you know, America's pastime, grandma apple
• 41:15
  pie and baseball. It was this pure institution of
• 41:18
  Major League Baseball. We can't believe this is going
• 41:20
  on. See, it was, it was a, it was
• 41:23
  APR, you know, definitely a definitely PR.
• 41:26
  You know, when I see news get weaponized against, it doesn't
• 41:29
  matter whether it's a player, it's on social media or it's
• 41:32
  some somebody that's on the political spectrum.
• 41:35
  You know, we always talk about how quickly it can turn on you.
• 41:37
  You know, we know the operation runs, you know, deep within the
• 41:41
  narrative, right? They want to control the
• 41:42
  narrative. If they're going to control John
• 41:44
  Rocker, they want to control George Ballantine, they want to
• 41:47
  control Donald Trump. It doesn't matter who it is, the
• 41:50
  system is really sophisticated. And for people out there that
• 41:53
  haven't dealt with it, now you've doubled down.
• 41:56
  First of all, not only have you been incredibly outspoken on
• 41:59
  social media, but now you've decided to pick up the podcast
• 42:03
  Microphone. I watched a couple of your
• 42:04
  episodes. You know what I'm getting.
• 42:07
  Better. I'm getting better.
• 42:08
  No, you are. You're doing great.
• 42:10
  I actually saw your one with the I'm watching on.
• 42:12
  Podcast I'm like. Practice makes perfect, John.
• 42:14
  We're all like. That I never off my guess too
• 42:16
  much. I'm getting better.
• 42:18
  I'm I know know some adjustment. No, I'm always chewing gum upon
• 42:22
  not chewing gum anymore and mumbling on on on on 4 sticks of
• 42:26
  gum. So I'm I'm making some
• 42:27
  adjustments. I'm getting better.
• 42:29
  Who's running your production for you?
• 42:33
  Long well, it's it's it's Sandlot media is this company.
• 42:37
  I'm, I'm also a part of so great, great team, man for
• 42:40
  absolutely fantastic team. Wait, who is it for?
• 42:44
  Sandlot Media. Sandlot media and you're only.
• 42:47
  Only run three shows right now. No, but I think it's great.
• 42:51
  I I actually think you're doing a really good job.
• 42:52
  I think it's a real comfortable environment you kind of created
• 42:55
  there. I watched one of your interviews
• 42:57
  with the Navy SEAL. We do a lot of Special Forces
• 42:59
  guys because of my Yeah. So we've had quite a few of them
• 43:03
  on. And of course, it's really
• 43:04
  engaging. It's kind of a playbook.
• 43:05
  We we run our playbook out of like Joe Rogan, Shawn Ryan, kind
• 43:09
  of that style is what we try to do on this show because we do a
• 43:12
  lot of variety. We do musicians and we do MMA
• 43:15
  and we do Special Forces. But what made you decide you
• 43:19
  weren't you? You Because I've watched you on
• 43:21
  social media for a long time. I followed you for a long time.
• 43:23
  I like your post. I like when you go all in on
• 43:25
  people. What made you decide to pick up
• 43:29
  the microphone now? Was it just you finally said
• 43:32
  enough of this bullshit? Yeah, I've, I've wanted to do a
• 43:34
  podcast for years. I've had a conversation with,
• 43:37
  with various production, you know, companies around the,
• 43:41
  well, rather SE mainly. And it was just just never the
• 43:43
  right fit, just just kind of small, kind of chintzy.
• 43:45
  And, and this, this, this production company is a young
• 43:48
  company, but everybody involved has got, you know, they, they,
• 43:52
  they, they, and they spun away from what they were doing
• 43:54
  previously to form this company. The company is young, but
• 43:57
  everyone is very experienced. And that's great.
• 44:00
  You know, our, our, you know, the, the, the, the camera crew,
• 44:05
  if you really actual producers that are, that are, that are
• 44:07
  entity and set everything up, they, they, they've won I think
• 44:10
  4 Emmys in podcast production. I mean, they're there.
• 44:13
  That's quite, quite substantial. Yeah, that's great.
• 44:16
  The Western members of the company, there's pretty much
• 44:18
  nobody as far as interview wise that we can't get to.
• 44:22
  I mean, this this weekend I'm going to Athens to, to interview
• 44:26
  Cole Swindell. If you guys are country fans,
• 44:28
  Cole Swindell, AJ Styles, Pete Rose Junior and Rick Ankiel.
• 44:34
  That's a great lineup. The first interview I ever show
• 44:38
  I ever did was with John Rich and Big and Rich.
• 44:42
  Yeah. And.
• 44:42
  And one of the girls that works for us, actually.
• 44:45
  Her name is Tiffany Savage. She ran Donald Trump's Georgia
• 44:49
  campaign, ran his campaign. I.
• 44:51
  Know savvy, I'm friends with her.
• 44:52
  Oh. You do.
• 44:53
  OK, so we'll we'll at some point, you know, probably get
• 44:55
  Don Junior on, but but everybody kind of brings their own, their
• 44:59
  own niche and can make one, if not 2 phone calls and get
• 45:03
  whomever on the show. So yeah, where do they?
• 45:06
  Where do you? Know savvy really well?
• 45:07
  Hold on. I just met her for the first
• 45:10
  time about maybe six months ago, someone said.
• 45:12
  I know her really well, but sweet she can be.
• 45:14
  I like her a lot. She's great.
• 45:15
  I. Was going to, I was going to
• 45:16
  text her right now, so I got John on, he says hello.
• 45:19
  OK, great. I'm here this weekend.
• 45:21
  Yeah. So John, where do they just for
• 45:23
  the audience right now before we dig in the rest of the way here,
• 45:26
  where do they find on Cage? So you're on YouTube and where
• 45:28
  else are you right now? YouTube, Spotify, Apple, I know
• 45:34
  those 3 for sure. They've told me a couple other
• 45:36
  ones but I usually just just watch it for my.
• 45:39
  No Rumble yet, huh? You're not on Rumble yet?
• 45:40
  You're not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not big time.
• 45:42
  I'm still like a ball. Just like a ball.
• 45:44
  You guys are. You guys are like, you know, 3-4
• 45:46
  year big league veterans. I'm still just a balling.
• 45:49
  No, but I'll, I'll tell you something to watch.
• 45:51
  It over there on YouTube and I'll tell Asia.
• 45:54
  Yeah, I did a Tim full show. I don't know if not not to not
• 45:59
  to plug another show on your show, but I didn't tend to no
• 46:02
  plug. Away we, we, we're supporters.
• 46:04
  We. About not the hater crew here.
• 46:06
  Just because somebody watches Tim Poole doesn't mean they
• 46:08
  don't watch us just because. And at the end of the day, I
• 46:10
  want you to plug your show. It's part of it because we want
• 46:13
  to help you grow. Because the more of us out there
• 46:15
  that are fighting the good fight, the better it's going to
• 46:18
  because, of course, educating and unifying the country.
• 46:20
  Well, I will. I will say at some point, maybe
• 46:23
  it's time to stop fighting a good fight with this and start
• 46:27
  fighting with this. It's going to have to happen,
• 46:29
  man. Running our fucking mouths
• 46:31
  clearly is not enough. I mean, these, these fucking
• 46:34
  freak fucking liberals, they're willing to go out and surround,
• 46:39
  harass, get physically violent with people at Trump rallies and
• 46:43
  wherever. They're going to burn down
• 46:45
  police stations, burn out police cars, take shots at Trump, kill
• 46:48
  Charlie Kirk, and all we do is go on a podcast and fucking yap
• 46:51
  about it. At some point in time we got to
• 46:54
  step out in the street. I, I've got to tell you that,
• 46:56
  that George has to restrict me a lot of times.
• 46:59
  I, I'm probably wants to take it into that arena.
• 47:05
  I try to, I try to modify my talk because at the end of the
• 47:08
  day, like I told you earlier, I struggle with a dark side,
• 47:11
  meaning that I always believe that actions speak louder than
• 47:15
  words. I'm with you.
• 47:16
  It's it's hard for me. I have to restrain because of
• 47:18
  course that's the next thing they do.
• 47:20
  That's how they get us banned and permanently suspended.
• 47:23
  I was pretty outspoken on X got suspended under the Jack Dorsey
• 47:28
  reign of terror. I've never gotten the momentum
• 47:30
  back. And I think there's still
• 47:31
  restrictions on my account that nobody wants to acknowledge.
• 47:34
  You know, I've got my personal account.
• 47:35
  I've got about, I don't know what the two accounts are
• 47:37
  probably 400 and some odd thousand.
• 47:39
  And George never got his account back.
• 47:41
  George, how many death threats do you think we've had in the
• 47:43
  last 12 months? In our DMS?
• 47:46
  In an e-mail? Otherwise, what do you?
• 47:47
  Think I don't know dude. I stopped counting, but you know
• 47:49
  John. Probably 20-30 death threats.
• 47:52
  I I feel there's a violence threats.
• 47:53
  I always welcome him. I tell look, anytime you want to
• 47:56
  come up and you want to step up, I'm here.
• 47:58
  There's only two things standing between you and me, fear and
• 48:00
  atmosphere and. When it when it comes to like
• 48:04
  with Kirk, yeah, I'm, I understand where you're coming
• 48:07
  from, even Lance. But for a person like me, I
• 48:12
  don't say it. I won't say it on any social
• 48:15
  media or anything. You just got to be able to
• 48:21
  handle it. Do it, go out and do it and just
• 48:23
  handle it. Handle your business.
• 48:24
  You know what I mean? That won't.
• 48:26
  Step up. I actually tried to fight.
• 48:28
  I don't know if you know that Jackass Brooklyn dad dude, he's
• 48:32
  gay. He's faking gay, why would you
• 48:35
  even think he would? Doesn't matter, I'd still like
• 48:36
  to knock him the fuck out for the way.
• 48:38
  He's right here in Brooklyn. He's by me.
• 48:39
  You want me to go get him? I.
• 48:40
  I offered many times to fight him in the cage I also went
• 48:43
  after. I live in North New Jersey, 10
• 48:46
  minutes from the. City John, Who's that?
• 48:47
  Who's the actor? George.
• 48:49
  But they now he's kind of flipped the script.
• 48:50
  The guy that had the big mouth, I was talking about Israel.
• 48:53
  I offered to fight him too. He wouldn't do it.
• 48:55
  I offered. I put a big mouth.
• 48:55
  You'll be more specific on that. So here's what I I pulled a
• 49:00
  clip. We're talking about the insanity
• 49:02
  on the left. You, you bring up a valid point.
• 49:05
  I think there's a mental health crisis in the United States.
• 49:08
  Here's a clip I grabbed this morning.
• 49:10
  Let's throw it up. George.
• 49:12
  I don't even understand what's going on here.
• 49:14
  Honestly, this is beyond me. And you, you know, listen, you,
• 49:17
  you grew up, you were young guy in the same period as us.
• 49:19
  I just didn't see all these transgender fucking psychos.
• 49:23
  I didn't see this crazy. They were there.
• 49:25
  And it's not just not like the, the, the champion of like this
• 49:29
  is the next frontier that liberals have to conquer.
• 49:31
  It was, you know, the, the, the fight for the gays and gay
• 49:34
  marriage, you know, 15 years ago.
• 49:35
  Now. Let's move on to the next, you
• 49:37
  know, Yeah, Weird, bizarre way out in the left field of the
• 49:42
  social norm. Let's try to make that normal
• 49:44
  now. I mean, you, you think that
• 49:45
  there there can't be more than what, half a million?
• 49:49
  Tops. Transvestites in the in the in
• 49:52
  this country. There's a.
• 49:53
  Number is so small, but we've given him a platform, haven't
• 49:57
  we? Hasn't TikTok given?
• 49:58
  And I hate TikTok. Let me be clear, I hate it.
• 50:01
  I think at the end of the day. Actually, you know what, there's
• 50:03
  a deal they they made, they're going to announce it Friday.
• 50:06
  They just didn't talked about it today.
• 50:08
  Trump and them they actually there's some the deals in the
• 50:11
  works is pretty much going to be finalized.
• 50:12
  They're going to talk, they're going to share it on Friday.
• 50:16
  What? What's the deal, George?
• 50:17
  They didn't. They were excited.
• 50:19
  Well, let let's hope so. I'm going to tell you this.
• 50:21
  I don't like the stuff that's on TikTok.
• 50:23
  I think it's accp run platform that was meant to undermine the
• 50:27
  youth in America. I think they've done an amazing
• 50:29
  job because when you look at TikTok in China, the platform is
• 50:32
  completely different. You don't see this kind of
• 50:34
  garbage on there. But on our end, we promote this
• 50:36
  garbage. Let's throw this clip up.
• 50:37
  Here's another TikTok insane person.
• 50:40
  I don't even know what this person is.
• 50:41
  Saying I don't know if this is real, but.
• 50:46
  Slam everyone. I just got to ask who's
• 50:49
  cosplaying? See, cosplaying is when you
• 50:51
  dress up as something that you aren't or someone you aren't.
• 50:54
  I am a Muslim woman. I wear what a Muslim woman
• 51:00
  wears. I dress like that.
• 51:02
  So who's cosplaying here? I think you need to learn the
• 51:07
  words that you're trying to use because they ain't working for
• 51:10
  you. Hey I'm working.
• 51:16
  For you she has. She has an Adam's album as big
• 51:19
  as her balls. Yeah, I just, again, not knowing
• 51:23
  a lot about the Middle East, having spent time there, I, I
• 51:25
  don't think that this person, this guy would be embraced by
• 51:30
  the Muslims anywhere. I I personally believe he'd be.
• 51:33
  Beating his dance, probably that's why.
• 51:35
  Yeah, I mean, and John, you, you reacted to a lot of stuff.
• 51:38
  Charlie Kirk is obviously the big news.
• 51:40
  And I, I reacted the same way you did.
• 51:42
  First, I was shocked when George texted me.
• 51:44
  I wasn't online at the moment. He said Charlie Kirk was shot.
• 51:47
  I was hoping it was going to be, you know, it was going to be a
• 51:49
  shot he would recover from. The minute I saw the video,
• 51:52
  having seen some injuries like that when I was a government
• 51:55
  contractor, I felt like it was probably not going to end well
• 52:00
  for him. Of course it didn't, but you,
• 52:02
  you went into OverDrive. You had some post code seriously
• 52:05
  viral, but you were right. You came out and said this is
• 52:08
  just crazy. Let's talk about that a little
• 52:09
  bit, kind of what your reaction was when you heard it.
• 52:12
  And of course, what you felt like the left because there were
• 52:15
  people just celebrating. And I, it made me so angry that
• 52:18
  I actually had to disengage from social media because I was ready
• 52:21
  to just start telling everybody I was, you know, come and see
• 52:24
  me. I'll take care of you.
• 52:24
  You won't have to worry about it.
• 52:26
  We'll put an end to what you're thinking right now.
• 52:27
  And I had to just stop, so go ahead from there.
• 52:30
  Yeah, it made me extremely angry.
• 52:35
  You know, I've said for for years, guys, I don't even know
• 52:39
  where to start conversation. You know, liberals always talk
• 52:45
  about their, the party of inclusion, their, you know,
• 52:48
  inclusion for the weirdos, the freaks, the, the, the, the, the
• 52:52
  fringe, all the, all the fringe thinkers, the, the normal folks
• 52:55
  that have nine to five jobs and families.
• 52:57
  And we, that, that is not our ideology.
• 53:01
  And there's no place for us in the, in the Democratic Party.
• 53:05
  There's no place for us in that liberal mind thing.
• 53:09
  Liberals, you know what, what was it?
• 53:11
  You know, Biden over and over and over again, the most
• 53:13
  dangerous group to American democracy is MAGA supporters.
• 53:18
  Are you shitting me? It was not a Magnus supporter
• 53:22
  that tried to shoot Donald Trump twice.
• 53:24
  Not a Magnus supporter that killed Charlie Kurt was not a
• 53:26
  Magnus supporter that had over 400 riots back in in in in 1920
• 53:31
  and 2021. Burning police cars and police
• 53:36
  stations, rioting, looting, murdering.
• 53:40
  Those are, those are those are not Trump supporters.
• 53:42
  The left is the group of violence.
• 53:45
  Now, are they the group of violence because they just are
• 53:47
  violent people, They're angry people.
• 53:49
  Or are they the group of violence because they're paid,
• 53:52
  the term paid agitators? I have fought for years and
• 53:55
  years and years. I made some T-shirts and it's
• 53:58
  got me sideways with the Atlanta Braves because they told me to
• 54:00
  take them on my website. I told to go fucking # saying
• 54:04
  this is liberal for pussies. I wear that shirt all the
• 54:08
  fucking time. And keep in mind I'm 6, five,
• 54:10
  £250. I'm still in pretty damn good
• 54:12
  shape. I wear that shirt all the time
• 54:16
  and just eyeball people. Who's going to say something?
• 54:17
  Come on, fucking say something. And people rarely do.
• 54:20
  I was in Washington DC about four years ago and toured all
• 54:24
  the monuments and all that on a Friday afternoon.
• 54:26
  Or my little shirt, pussy fucking T-shirt.
• 54:28
  I had one person make a comment that was a jogger and they
• 54:31
  picked up the pace once they fucked off.
• 54:34
  So really? And you see some of these just,
• 54:37
  I mean, a liberal has a look to it.
• 54:40
  I mean, they're, they're, they're, they're generally out
• 54:42
  of shape. They're generally pasted, have
• 54:43
  some kind of fuck up haircut. You can tell growing up, they
• 54:47
  were a fucking loser. They had no friends.
• 54:49
  They were, they were an outcast socially.
• 54:53
  And it's like these, these people like grow up and they
• 54:55
  form their own group, you know, all the, the losers band
• 54:58
  together to become liberals and they, they grow up angry, they
• 55:02
  grow up fucking pissed off. They grow up on the lash out and
• 55:04
  fight back and and they feel strong and bold in their groups.
• 55:10
  Like when you see Antifa and they're throwing rocks at cars,
• 55:13
  they're bashing Teslas and shit like that.
• 55:15
  They feel emboldened because there's 20 or 30 of them, all
• 55:19
  the games looking like that. Even the Crips, the blood,
• 55:21
  they're all like that. You take them one-on-one, they
• 55:23
  ain't shit. They'll do like that because
• 55:25
  they got all their friends. With them all you know, they're,
• 55:27
  they're, they're, they're, they're 45% body fat.
• 55:30
  They're fat. They're unathletic.
• 55:32
  The men throw like women. I would and and you know, are
• 55:35
  they are they paid by George Soros or paid by some left wing
• 55:38
  bank? Probably.
• 55:41
  Let me ask you this, John. Do you think it's nature versus
• 55:44
  nurture or do you think it's a combination thereof?
• 55:46
  Because my opinion, when we grew up, everybody was in better
• 55:49
  shape. Everybody wanted to be in good
• 55:51
  shape. But I look at these kids now and
• 55:53
  they just seem so weak and mealy, you know, They don't look
• 55:56
  like they really want to do a day of working.
• 55:58
  Out is like the cool thing though.
• 55:59
  You know, and I think it's, I think it's a combination of the
• 56:02
  food. I also wonder, you know, Alex
• 56:04
  Jones has made some comments about what's in the water.
• 56:06
  We've talked about what's happening.
• 56:08
  We talked about the vaccines. It seems like these kids, I mean
• 56:11
  they, they look like they start out of the gate.
• 56:13
  Maybe we screwed up our testosterone taking steroids and
• 56:16
  performance enhancing drugs, but it looked like they had no
• 56:18
  testosterone to begin with. These guys look so fucked up.
• 56:22
  Very, very effeminate. And you know, and here, here's
• 56:25
  what I think stops this. And when I was on Tim Poole's
• 56:28
  show, he's like, you say it on Rumble.
• 56:30
  Don't say it on YouTube. They'll fucking ban my ass or at
• 56:33
  least, or at least, you know, suspend me for a prolonged
• 56:35
  period of time. I'll say you've got Soros and
• 56:38
  he's paid 100 of these, you know of these these emasculate
• 56:42
  individuals to go down and and and riot pick it, whatever pre
• 56:47
  havoc at a Trump rally. Why aren't there 100 good old
• 56:51
  boys in their fucking pickup trucks with shotgun shotgun
• 56:55
  racks, you know, on the fucking back glass.
• 56:59
  Meet him in the fucking St. And and just because because.
• 57:04
  I'll tell you why. Because if you, if you, if you
• 57:07
  have these stupid soy boys or facts, what do you want to call
• 57:09
  them if they're there trying to protest, if you put
• 57:13
  conservatives with blatantly showing their shotguns or guns
• 57:17
  in. Their trunks?
• 57:17
  No. Don't pull your gut out.
• 57:18
  No, no. But I know, I know.
• 57:21
  But doing that is just, you know, you don't have the median
• 57:24
  everybody going to spin. But here's here's what stops it.
• 57:26
  So when about half a dozen them, a dozen them go to the hospital,
• 57:31
  they're there for about a week and a half.
• 57:32
  A month later, you got Soros called up.
• 57:34
  All right, Who wants to go to this rally, that Trump rally?
• 57:37
  Who's going to have to get this run?
• 57:40
  Yeah, well, I would, George, be the last time I got the shit out
• 57:43
  of me. So I'm going to sit this one
• 57:45
  out. I want to tell you.
• 57:47
  Something is you beat the piss out enough of them, next
• 57:50
  opportunity comes up. Yeah.
• 57:52
  I'm for that. I'll probably sit this one.
• 57:54
  Listen, I'm for that going and beating the piss out of them,
• 57:56
  but just don't be showing the guns in the trucks they.
• 57:59
  Don't let me. He was talking about it, I know,
• 58:01
  but George, he was talking to that type of person.
• 58:03
  And here's what I do agree with. I'm going to tell you something.
• 58:06
  You saw them do it at the J6 Fed's direction.
• 58:09
  They put fear in people so they couldn't peacefully protest,
• 58:11
  right? Because they arrested, you know,
• 58:13
  soccer moms and grandmothers and veterans, people that really
• 58:17
  didn't participate. They, they created the event
• 58:19
  that they use less lethal munitions to agitate the crowd.
• 58:23
  They had lots of federal agents that were agitating the crowd,
• 58:26
  pulling down barriers. They opened up the magnetic
• 58:28
  doors. But they did that because they
• 58:30
  wanted to make sure people weren't going to go to more
• 58:32
  events and they and it, and it worked.
• 58:34
  I agree with you. Here's the problem.
• 58:35
  I voted for transparency, accountability and consequences.
• 58:39
  I, I voted for the rule of law. And at the end of the day, when,
• 58:43
  when you have a group like Soros using the Open Society
• 58:45
  Foundation and all the other NGOs, he got literally 10s of
• 58:50
  millions of dollars, maybe even hundreds from USAID.
• 58:53
  That's the problem with what I call the deep state, and I
• 58:57
  always, I don't always say it's the left.
• 58:58
  I believe it's a more deep state organization.
• 59:00
  I believe the government officials, politicians,
• 59:03
  judiciary, these people are compromised.
• 59:06
  They compromise them and then they manipulate them.
• 59:08
  Sometimes they manipulate them through money, sometimes they
• 59:10
  compromise them through an operation like Epstein.
• 59:13
  Whatever it is, they do a very good job of it.
• 59:15
  And people like Soros puts his money where his mouth is.
• 59:18
  One of the things that I think is lacking on the right is that
• 59:20
  we haven't. Seen that?
• 59:23
  We don't have any capitalization, John, and you
• 59:25
  probably probably know this from these shows.
• 59:27
  They start out as a labor of love.
• 59:29
  Even when you have a big agency behind you, you have to use all
• 59:33
  your resources. You've got incredible resources.
• 59:35
  You've got lots of, you know, public figure relationships.
• 59:38
  You have to develop it. And what I think is really
• 59:40
  frightening in a way is it they, they not only have they well
• 59:45
  monetize that vertical, they have taken our own government
• 59:48
  and weaponized it. So if you take a group like
• 59:50
  USAID and you watch how much money got funnelled out, look at
• 59:53
  the Chelsea Clinton a know nothing worthless sack of shit
• 59:57
  got $84 million from USAID. She spent, I could never figure
• 1:00:01
  out when I watched her buy her $11 million mansion, I thought,
• 1:00:04
  wow, her parents really must take care of her.
• 1:00:06
  Turns out the $11 million came from the American taxpayers.
• 1:00:09
  She got 3,000,000 she spent on a wedding she got funded through,
• 1:00:13
  you know, 84,000,000 from US. ID Why isn't she being
• 1:00:15
  prosecuted? Why isn't that money being
• 1:00:18
  clawed back? And let me say this, on this
• 1:00:19
  show, I've mentioned, said it many times, and we know that
• 1:00:22
  Donald Trump is tuned into our show as well as JD Vance.
• 1:00:26
  I've said it, George Soros, Alexander Soros are
• 1:00:28
  international and domestic terrorists.
• 1:00:30
  They have, they have weaponized himself against the American
• 1:00:33
  people. Even in my own state.
• 1:00:35
  I'm stuck in the socialist state of Colorado for the moment.
• 1:00:37
  My mom lives here. She's 93 and I take care of her
• 1:00:40
  and her friends are here. So I haven't made the move.
• 1:00:42
  I really want to move to Florida like you.
• 1:00:44
  But here we are with a very sophisticated system, you know,
• 1:00:48
  operating behind the scenes. Let's face it, if I'm going to
• 1:00:50
  start putting money into shows, I'm going to pick a guy like
• 1:00:53
  John Rocker. I'm going to pick the Big Ming
• 1:00:55
  show and I'm going to put some money into those shows because I
• 1:00:57
  know these guys are real Americans.
• 1:00:59
  They're true patriots. They want the best for the
• 1:01:02
  country, but you don't see that happening.
• 1:01:05
  Do you find that you've now that you've gotten into the podcast
• 1:01:07
  game, do you see how the that vertical on that side, when they
• 1:01:10
  want to weaponize against us, those people get an unlimited
• 1:01:13
  amount of capital to promote and grow their shows.
• 1:01:16
  Yeah, their their their job is to create strife throughout this
• 1:01:20
  country and most specifically against the Conservative Party.
• 1:01:23
  That is, their job is to be be advertised.
• 1:01:27
  And an incredible amount you, you look at people Bill Kristol
• 1:01:29
  got, I could never figure out how Bill Kristol could promote
• 1:01:32
  so negatively. Right.
• 1:01:33
  I, I was surprised his soul wasn't being sucked out of him.
• 1:01:36
  And then I heard about the $8 million a year he was getting
• 1:01:38
  from USAID. He's probably hiring some guy to
• 1:01:41
  run a social media for a hundred a year, being extra generous.
• 1:01:44
  And he's putting 7.9 million in his pocket at 8 million.
• 1:01:47
  You can understand, you saw how you know Kamala Harris comes off
• 1:01:51
  her election run 24,000,000 negative.
• 1:01:53
  But here she is paying Megan Thee Stallion, Beyoncé and, and
• 1:01:57
  and and even Sean Penn getting paid for that Ukraine
• 1:02:00
  appearance, $5,000,000. Just these tremendous amounts of
• 1:02:03
  money and none of it is coming from the right into the right
• 1:02:06
  organizations of the top 100 shows or up and coming shows
• 1:02:10
  with public figures like yourself.
• 1:02:11
  George, you and I have discussed this so many times about the
• 1:02:14
  lack of funding and we've allowed the left to become so
• 1:02:18
  weaponized. Even these influencers, I
• 1:02:20
  believe many of the influencers, JoJo from jurors, the
• 1:02:23
  Krasensteins, Brooklyn dad, that little, that little coward fag,
• 1:02:27
  Chris Mallory, Harry Sisson. I don't you know, I'd like to
• 1:02:30
  slap each one of them with a bitch slap.
• 1:02:33
  George. We talked about it and that's
• 1:02:34
  one of the things that's really horrendous that they have been
• 1:02:36
  given so much capital to promote these negative anti US and US
• 1:02:42
  people messages. George, your thoughts?
• 1:02:44
  Because I know you and I have made this discussion.
• 1:02:45
  Well, that's the thing the the left and all our organizations,
• 1:02:49
  somehow, no matter what, they always come together.
• 1:02:53
  You know, they'll fight on the same issues and stick to their
• 1:02:55
  guns. They'll always get the money to
• 1:02:56
  advertise to pay, pay social media influencers on this on our
• 1:03:01
  side doesn't you bit you can't even get them to even throw
• 1:03:04
  money at a show to throw some commercials or anything.
• 1:03:07
  I mean, I don't know if they're cheap or whatever.
• 1:03:09
  They got it. They have like maybe 5
• 1:03:12
  conservative social media influencers on like X that you
• 1:03:16
  know, that they pay and believe me, they're not worth the shit
• 1:03:20
  anyway. Those people with their posts.
• 1:03:22
  Yeah, but that looks. Like, conservatives do have a,
• 1:03:26
  you know, a very loud voice in talk radio.
• 1:03:29
  I was thinking services probably dominate talk radio.
• 1:03:31
  So but speaking space though. Speaking of this, like over the
• 1:03:35
  weekend this came up which is getting a lot of attention.
• 1:03:38
  It's called they're calling for to overturn the Smith Mundact.
• 1:03:42
  I don't know if you're familiar with.
• 1:03:43
  That Mund. I'm not, no.
• 1:03:45
  So Barack Obama literally made it legal for the US government
• 1:03:48
  to lie and use propaganda on U.S. citizens in the Smith Month
• 1:03:53
  Modern Modernization Act. Yeah, he overturned it.
• 1:03:56
  Actually. Smith Munt made them so they
• 1:03:58
  couldn't do it and Barack Obama cancelled it.
• 1:04:02
  He's about right. Yeah, he cancelled it because
• 1:04:05
  what it does is it allows the US government to lie and manipulate
• 1:04:08
  the press to, of course, spread a narrative.
• 1:04:12
  Right now there's a push to rename the Smith Month Act, the
• 1:04:14
  Charlie Kirk Act, bring it back into a force where the US
• 1:04:17
  government cannot weaponize media against us.
• 1:04:21
  But I got, you know, now that you're a podcaster and you and
• 1:04:23
  you clearly you've got a good game plan.
• 1:04:25
  You've got a great team behind you.
• 1:04:27
  What's the what? What is the message you really
• 1:04:29
  want to convey? I know we don't have a whole lot
• 1:04:31
  of time yet here. So what is the message you
• 1:04:34
  really want to convey from your show?
• 1:04:35
  What's your plan? Because you're a guy that's
• 1:04:37
  never held back and I respect you for that.
• 1:04:40
  Regardless of the shots you took, you're you're a real
• 1:04:43
  fucking GI mean. You're not playing around.
• 1:04:45
  You've always said what the fuck was on your mind and you didn't
• 1:04:48
  care what the impact of it was. I don't think you have any
• 1:04:51
  regrets about it because you don't seem to be a guy That
• 1:04:53
  strikes me because I don't have a lot of regrets.
• 1:04:55
  I've definitely lived on both sides of the fence and there's
• 1:04:57
  different moments when things have happened to me, but I've
• 1:05:00
  never regretted what I did. I've always looked back and said
• 1:05:02
  there was justification for it. What's the the big message
• 1:05:06
  behind on Cage and what's your plan moving forward?
• 1:05:09
  For, for now, let's establish an audience.
• 1:05:11
  And of course, the bigger you get, the more chances you can
• 1:05:14
  take, the more risks you can take, the more credibility you
• 1:05:17
  create, the bigger you get. So, you know, now it's trying to
• 1:05:21
  get, you know, I've already had some great guests, I guess some
• 1:05:24
  great guests coming up. And to get, you know, to that
• 1:05:27
  size where you're, you're 50 or 80 or 100th show, you've got
• 1:05:30
  some credibility. And then just just keep saying
• 1:05:34
  the same show always says now I I do again.
• 1:05:38
  When I was I I tried to hit this a couple times and keep me to
• 1:05:41
  see me a sidetrack. When I did Tim pool show and we
• 1:05:44
  did the first we did the first like 2 hours.
• 1:05:47
  It was it was 3 hours, 3 hours on Tim pool show.
• 1:05:50
  Like how long Tim? Like Jesus, Yeah, but yeah, but.
• 1:05:53
  The time goes fast, don't you think Timbo's a?
• 1:05:55
  Good. It was fun.
• 1:05:56
  It was fun. We did the first two hours on on
• 1:05:58
  YouTube and he said, you, you can't talk about 3 things.
• 1:06:01
  You can't talk about transvestites, about the COVID
• 1:06:04
  shot or violence in any in any fashion.
• 1:06:07
  You can't you do that shit. I will get suspended by YouTube.
• 1:06:10
  Like no shit. I thought this was a free forum.
• 1:06:13
  No FCC's like yeah, technically, but YouTube will fucking shut my
• 1:06:16
  showdown. You talk about violence, the
• 1:06:18
  COVID shot or trainees. Oh shit, I was like, we get a
• 1:06:22
  rumble last hour. Fucking have at it.
• 1:06:24
  So it's still it's still that, you know, I always want to do a
• 1:06:28
  podcast because there is no FCC. There is no fucking dump button.
• 1:06:31
  I guess what the fuck I want to say.
• 1:06:33
  Well, evidently you can't and without the fool, without the
• 1:06:36
  platform and of course YouTube, you know, you still got Spotify,
• 1:06:39
  you still got rumble, you still got Apple.
• 1:06:42
  But I would honestly don't know about Spotify specifically, but
• 1:06:45
  I would say Apple would probably be, you know, of the same
• 1:06:48
  mindset of YouTube and God knows apples literal as hell.
• 1:06:51
  Guess what, You ain't got to worry about none of that shit
• 1:06:54
  here on Rumble. Yeah, I know, I know.
• 1:06:55
  And then hopefully I get as big as you guys want to have my own,
• 1:06:58
  my own Rumble channel. But yeah, it's going to be yeah.
• 1:07:03
  I mean, it's going to be same the same shit that I've said.
• 1:07:06
  You know what? Time do you do your show?
• 1:07:08
  By the way? What's that?
• 1:07:10
  What time do you do your show? We we film like 4 to 5 shows a
• 1:07:14
  month and they come out once a week.
• 1:07:17
  They come out 6:00 Thursday nights.
• 1:07:19
  All right, as long as you don't come around 11:00 AM, you're
• 1:07:21
  good, bro. But you.
• 1:07:23
  Guys do a show every day. I'm I'm not, but we're 11.
• 1:07:25
  AM everyday, 11 AM. We've also got our big MIG talk
• 1:07:28
  radio show. And then we have the number one
• 1:07:30
  crypto show on Rumble, the Crypto Power Hour.
• 1:07:33
  That's at 9:00 AM Eastern standard two days.
• 1:07:37
  So we have quite a few shows we do.
• 1:07:38
  But you know, John, let me get this.
• 1:07:40
  Scars and Stripes. Where do they buy your book?
• 1:07:43
  Right now it's just out of print.
• 1:07:45
  I did. I did 22 prints of it.
• 1:07:48
  Basically got tired of fucking around with it.
• 1:07:50
  Yeah, it came out in 2011. We did a second round of
• 1:07:53
  printing in 13. I think they actually want to do
• 1:07:56
  a third round. I'm like, eh, I'm kind of, I'm
• 1:07:58
  kind of booked out. You can still go on Amazon.
• 1:08:01
  OK, so you're on YouTube uncaged podcast, your social media on X
• 1:08:05
  is it's John Rocker. Give him a follow, go check his
• 1:08:08
  show out. Please go over to YouTube,
• 1:08:10
  support him and subscribe. You know how it is.
• 1:08:12
  He's trying to get out of the gate.
• 1:08:13
  He's got a good plan. I trust John Rocker and you
• 1:08:16
  know, I don't say that about a lot of fucking people.
• 1:08:18
  I think he's the real deal. He's proven himself over history
• 1:08:21
  on X. So check him out.
• 1:08:23
  And of course, you guys, the most precious commodity you have
• 1:08:25
  is time. Thank you so much for turning
• 1:08:27
  in. Take the short form, take the
• 1:08:28
  long form. We're not coming after you.
• 1:08:30
  We want you to promote, promote the show, promote John Rocker,
• 1:08:33
  go over to X after the show, go follow him.
• 1:08:35
  He can use all the support he can get because he's in a real
• 1:08:37
  fight. It is what it is.
• 1:08:39
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• 1:08:41
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• 1:08:46
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• 1:08:49
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• 1:09:00
  We've got some QR codes over there, George Ballantine, a last
• 1:09:03
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• 1:09:06
  I'll give the details after you get done, George.
• 1:09:07
  Or you can do it now. Yeah.
• 1:09:09
  I don't know what just happened. We just lost the feet over there
• 1:09:11
  and rumble tomorrow, I don't even know what.
• 1:09:15
  Analyse what interview we got tomorrow, right now.
• 1:09:16
  Well, not tomorrow, but we've got Jonathan Otto, which is
• 1:09:19
  going to be great. I'll give you some details over
• 1:09:21
  in the Big Me Show channel, so check it out.
• 1:09:23
  George Last words, my brother. John, thank you.
• 1:09:26
  It was a pleasure. Hopefully we'll get you on
• 1:09:27
  again. Hopefully when I come to
• 1:09:29
  Florida, I'll come meet up with you if you have time.
• 1:09:31
  Yeah, y'all stay blessed out there.
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