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Ice Cube Speaks On Gatekeepers, Hip Hop 50, BIG3 Basketball + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Morning. Everybody's st J n V. CHARLAMAGNEA god, we are
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  Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building,
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  Speaker 1: legend Ice Killed. Ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeay, what's happening with y'all?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome? How are you feeling?
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  Speaker 3: First?
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  Speaker 2: I feel good as a government check.
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  Speaker 3: Sixth season of the Big Three?
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  Speaker 2: Yep, sixth season.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations, thank you man.
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  Speaker 2: We had a great time last night in Brooklyn the Barclays.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of OG's came out, Melly Mail and Grandmaster Flash,
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  Speaker 2: Carris One, Eric b Chuck chill out. You know it
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  Speaker 2: was it was dope, got damn scarlet, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. So it was a lot of love celebrating
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  Speaker 2: the fiftieth anniversary of hip hop. Nice crowd, you know,
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  Speaker 2: about nine thousand people, so you know, it was pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 3: What did the fiftieth anniversary of hip hop? Meaning? The
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  Speaker 3: ice cube?
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  Speaker 2: Man, it means that, you know, we've come a long way.
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  Speaker 2: I remember the first you know year hip hop or
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  Speaker 2: you know, really rap. Now hip hop is more, is
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  Speaker 2: bigger than just rap, but I remember, you know, rap
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  Speaker 2: particularly was you know, the first year it came out,
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  Speaker 2: everybody was saying it was a fad, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't last, and forty nine years later it's the biggest
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  Speaker 2: music in the world. So it's a proud, proud moment.
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  Speaker 1: You know. It's similar to the Big Three when when
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  Speaker 1: you started with the Big Three, everybody thought it was
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a fad, and yeah, you're six years later.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about that because you know, we kind
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  Speaker 1: of seen the inceumption of the Big Three. How has
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  Speaker 1: it been since then? It Is it difficult to get play?
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  Speaker 2: Is it?
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about some of the the difficulties in well.
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  Speaker 2: First, the first, I appreciate you guys always supporting you know,
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  Speaker 2: from from year one, before y'all even knew what it was.
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  Speaker 2: You guys were supporting the league, having us on and
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  Speaker 2: talk about it. And you know, we put fifteen thousand
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  Speaker 2: people in the Barclays year year one when we had
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  Speaker 2: Alan iverson and so, you know, other than than you know,
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  Speaker 2: really not getting much exposure from mainstream sports media, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's really the problem. And also you know there's things
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  Speaker 2: that's happening behind the scenes when it comes to sponsors
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  Speaker 2: and networks and partners to partner with the Big Three.
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  Speaker 2: We think we're running to a lot of interference from
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  Speaker 2: the NBA, a lot of deals, you know, make it
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  Speaker 2: to the eleventh hour and then get shut down, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and so it's frustrating. It's something that we were like
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  Speaker 2: suffering in silence because we wanted to work it out
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  Speaker 2: with the NBA. You know, we wanted to figure out,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what more could we do to show that
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  Speaker 2: we're not competition. Now. The whole problem is there's a
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  Speaker 2: bylaw in the in the NBA contracts when you're owner,
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  Speaker 2: saying you cannot invest in a competing league, and so
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  Speaker 2: they're labeling the Big Three as a competing league. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: hell no, no, it's not good. It's not good because
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  Speaker 2: we're not competing. You know, they're they make billions every year.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're we're still trying to you know, get
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  Speaker 2: the the league into profitability, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me if I can't pronounce that. I want the
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  Speaker 2: l a unified school district.
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  Speaker 3: So so.
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  Speaker 2: We're still trying to get there, and we're just close,
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  Speaker 2: you know, sponsor Tolway. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: we're not competing. We play in the summer. If they
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  Speaker 2: work with us, we would avoid all the games that
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  Speaker 2: they have, you know far as uh W, n b
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  Speaker 2: A or summer league, but they not working with so
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  Speaker 2: we can't coordinate schedules. So we you know, we've tried
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  Speaker 2: to do everything to show that we're not competing. We
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  Speaker 2: don't take players under twenty two, so we're not going
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  Speaker 2: after you know, your one and done, your guys that
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  Speaker 2: need to really be in the NBA or going to
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  Speaker 2: the NBA. And you know, we we try not to
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  Speaker 2: to interfere with the NBA's schedule in any kind of way.
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  Speaker 2: So we're an alternative summer sport that that uh you know,
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  Speaker 2: people that like hoops you don't want to see more basketball,
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  Speaker 2: that's what we provide. They're playing five on five, we're
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  Speaker 2: playing three on three. It's apples and orangees. It's a
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  Speaker 2: totally different game when you really break it down.
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  Speaker 3: It would make sense to me for the NBA to
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  Speaker 3: do like a strategic partnership with y'all.
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  Speaker 2: It makes sense to me too, man, And you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's what we've been trying to do. I think what
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  Speaker 2: it it is really at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: you know, everybody can can put race on it, but
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the fact that we we changed the
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  Speaker 2: game without asking their permission, and I don't think they
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  Speaker 2: like it. I'm just speculating. You would have to ask
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  Speaker 2: Adam silver Mark Tatum. But we changed the game. But
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  Speaker 2: we do what's best for our game to make three
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  Speaker 2: on three exciting, you know what I'm saying. We got
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  Speaker 2: the four point shots, we got to bring the fire rule,
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  Speaker 2: one shot, free throws, all these things speed up the game,
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  Speaker 2: make it faster, make it funner to watch and play.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, we're changing the game just to make
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  Speaker 2: it better for our sport. We're not, you know, trying
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  Speaker 2: to push the NBA, even though they do follow some
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  Speaker 2: of our leads. You know, we were the first to
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  Speaker 2: recognize mental health and to recognize that, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: players shouldn't be shunned because they might have an issue.
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  Speaker 2: You know, let's try to work through it. Let's try
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  Speaker 2: to help them through it, and we embrace players. And
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  Speaker 2: they had to do it, you know, if you remember,
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  Speaker 2: they've they've you know, shunned a lot of players because
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  Speaker 2: they didn't want to deal with them mentally. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: we pushed them in that. We was the first league
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  Speaker 2: to allow a CBD use, which got players off of opioids.
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  Speaker 2: They had to follow that. So it's you know, we're
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  Speaker 2: changing the game and trying to make it better. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they don't like that, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: we don't care. You know, they they don't own basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Like I say this over and over, I don't hear
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  Speaker 2: kids saying, Mama, I want to go outside and play NBA.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they go and say I want to go
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  Speaker 2: out and play basketball. So basket balls for everybody and anybody,
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  Speaker 2: and and so we just want to say we're not
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  Speaker 2: a competing league if they would not put us in
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  Speaker 2: that category. Now. They don't do that to TBT, which
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  Speaker 2: is the basketball Tournament. They don't do that to slam Ball,
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  Speaker 2: which is coming back. NBA owners can own a pick
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  Speaker 2: a ball league. They can own an NFL team, they
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  Speaker 2: can own it a baseball team. They can own anything
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  Speaker 2: they want except the Big Three. You know, so we're
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  Speaker 2: you know, one of the only leagues that are so
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  Speaker 2: called competing and we're not. So we want them to drop.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, I know, last time you up,
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  Speaker 1: you were saying that you didn't sell the franchises as yet.
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  Speaker 1: Are you starting to sell a franchise yet?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're starting to sell teams.
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  Speaker 1: Wody so far, well, right now we're talking to a
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  Speaker 1: few different people in groups about buying teams, and we
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  Speaker 1: want to put them in.
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  Speaker 2: Cities, so you know, you would have you know, for
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  Speaker 2: lack of a better word, you know, New York Trilogy,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know, Baltimore ball Hogs, whatever. So that's
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  Speaker 2: our our next phase. That that, to me, is how
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  Speaker 2: we grow the league. We've calibrated it to the point.
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  Speaker 2: You got to remember we were inventing a sport at
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  Speaker 2: the same time as we were playing the sport, so
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  Speaker 2: we had to calibrate it over the years and make
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  Speaker 2: sure that the rules work. There was ways to come
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  Speaker 2: back from large deficits. We made wrinkles that made the
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  Speaker 2: game interesting and fun and and so we believe that
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  Speaker 2: the game is in a good place and now it's
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  Speaker 2: time to sell the teams to owners who have their
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  Speaker 2: own vision for their three on three team.
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  Speaker 1: And how did the players work? So you know, two
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  Speaker 1: questions actually, one do the players reach out to you
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  Speaker 1: guys or do you reach out to the players? And
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  Speaker 1: then how do you decide what player goes to watch team?
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  Speaker 1: Because I've been to a couple of games, of course
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  Speaker 1: I went to the when Alan Iverson played and a
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  Speaker 1: couple of others. But how did how do you decide? Like, so,
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  Speaker 1: let's you know, play that just retired or or doesn't
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  Speaker 1: want to play in the NBA, wants to play in
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  Speaker 1: your league. How do y'all decide what team he goes to?
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  Speaker 2: And well, you know, we look at first of all
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  Speaker 2: players contact us, and of course we go after players
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  Speaker 2: who we think would be great for the league. We
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  Speaker 2: we usually, you know, I have a player captain spot
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  Speaker 2: or or co captain spot, and if we only have
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  Speaker 2: co captain spots, we'll try to pair this player up
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  Speaker 2: with with the with the captain. Because the captain chooses
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  Speaker 2: who's on their team. So you know, people want guys
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  Speaker 2: that they know can play, so it's usually not hard
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  Speaker 2: to find a place for uh, you know, a new
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  Speaker 2: player that's coming in. So, but how it works, the
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  Speaker 2: player captain, the captain of the team gets to pick
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  Speaker 2: who he wants to play with. So he picks two
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  Speaker 2: co captains so you know, guys know how guys play,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like, yo, if I play with him, I
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  Speaker 2: can win. And then they draft two more players, so
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  Speaker 2: we have a draft pool, have a you know, lottery,
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  Speaker 2: so you who picked first, second, third, whatever, And then
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  Speaker 2: they pick the players they want and those players play,
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  Speaker 2: and then if anybody get hurt, you just return back
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  Speaker 2: to the draft pool and then they pick another player
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  Speaker 2: from the draft pool until the injured player comes back.
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  Speaker 2: So there's always a pool of players waiting to get
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  Speaker 2: caught up to play in the Big Three.
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  Speaker 3: And I heard you on Joe Rogan and you said
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  Speaker 3: the NBA is encouraging people to not sponsor the Big
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  Speaker 3: Three and encouraging networks and I play the Big Three.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that a lawsuit if you can prove it.
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  Speaker 2: It is, you know, it's it's it's anti trust that
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  Speaker 2: there that they're participating in, you know, when you you know,
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  Speaker 2: try to to keep a monopoly running by by you know,
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  Speaker 2: going behind the scenes and scaring either companies that you
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  Speaker 2: work with or companies that want to work with you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they are, they are, you know, very close to if
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  Speaker 2: they haven't already crossed the line with that. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it should be looked into what they're doing to
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  Speaker 2: the Big Three because you know, they've they've scared off
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  Speaker 2: some big companies who who deal in basketball. Now, you
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  Speaker 2: got to understand the basketball. Pool of companies that use
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  Speaker 2: basketball to promote it is not big. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: a small pool of companies. So it's not like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: even networks. You know, if you think about all the
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  Speaker 2: networks that play basketball, there's ABC, ESPN, there's n C, T,
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  Speaker 2: n T and right now CBS.
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  Speaker 3: Got anymore No, I mean locals like you know, like.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so so them the major networks, so you start
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  Speaker 2: running out of people to go to. Yeah too if
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  Speaker 2: they're blocking now we got our games, half of our
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  Speaker 2: games on CBS, but we got a whole other half
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  Speaker 2: of games right now on Big three dot Com. We're
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  Speaker 2: on massing if you got that at mid Atlantic uh
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  Speaker 2: uh Sports Network. But you know we should be on
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  Speaker 2: another network with our with the second half of our games.
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  Speaker 2: And we've known that they've squashed one deal and so
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  Speaker 2: you know, same thing with a few other major companies
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  Speaker 2: that deal in basketball. So we just got to get
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  Speaker 2: them to stop that part.
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  Speaker 3: How do they do that? Like how did they squash
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  Speaker 3: the deal? Like what do they say to these networks?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what they say. I ain't
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  Speaker 2: in the room, but I know we're usually close to
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  Speaker 2: the finish line with a deal and then there's a
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  Speaker 2: call or conversation about we need to work somehow with
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  Speaker 2: the NBA or we're not gonna have to do this deal.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, that's happened several times, and you know
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  Speaker 2: it's it's just starting to get to a point where
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  Speaker 2: some's gotta give, you know, So we're gonna keep pushing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it might be something that d OJ might
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  Speaker 2: want to look into because it's not right what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Now calling them out hasn't made it worse or is
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  Speaker 1: it just the same as you see you know, more
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  Speaker 1: backlash from it.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to calibrate. You know, hate is hate, So
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's more hate or less. That
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  Speaker 2: part really don't matter to me, you know what I mean. Like,
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  Speaker 2: at a certain point, you got to go on the offensive,
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  Speaker 2: no matter what the consequences are. You can't just sit
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  Speaker 2: back and take it and not try to defend yourself
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  Speaker 2: and fight for your rights. So I don't really care
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  Speaker 2: what they're doing behind the scenes, because they haven't been
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  Speaker 2: able to kill us. We're still alive. At nine thousand
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  Speaker 2: people on a Sunday afternoon that sat for six hours
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  Speaker 2: to watch Big Three basketball and they had a party.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we had KRS one performing and Ji rule
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  Speaker 2: and you know it was a great time. Mop came
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  Speaker 2: through and performed Scarlet and salute to those folks and
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  Speaker 2: all the og that came that made the celebration great.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder what the NBA wants from the Big Three,
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  Speaker 3: like like like what would what's their ultimate goal?
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  Speaker 2: They just want you.
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  Speaker 3: They want to shut y'all down.
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  Speaker 1: Probably so they would be happy when we say the
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  Speaker 1: NBA isn't the NBA collective of owners, So it's the
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  Speaker 1: collective of owners.
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  Speaker 2: That's no. Because the owners, some owners want to invest
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  Speaker 2: in the Big Three. We've heard from them. They're not
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  Speaker 2: allowed to. So I say it's the top brass because
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  Speaker 2: the players like us. They love us, of course, because
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  Speaker 2: we're providing opportunities for their heroes and could be opportunity
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  Speaker 2: for them in the future. Of so coaches like us,
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  Speaker 2: gms have been to our games, scouts, owners, everybody you
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  Speaker 2: can name. And so it's the top Brass. It's the
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  Speaker 2: only ones. Because Adam could say Big Three is exempt
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  Speaker 2: from this by low because they're not a competing league. Now,
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  Speaker 2: it's not just the NBA owners that get tainted it's
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  Speaker 2: anybody with money that has a dream to own the
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  Speaker 2: NBA team. So if I dream to own the Nuggets
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  Speaker 2: one day, I can't invest in the Big Three because
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  Speaker 2: it squashes my dream right there. You don't wake up
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  Speaker 2: saying I want to own a Big Three team. Not yet.
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  Speaker 2: You will give me you know, ten years.
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  Speaker 1: Have you had a conversation with Adam at all? Several?
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  Speaker 2: Several I've had.
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  Speaker 1: How the conversations went, well.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't had a conversation since we launched.
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  Speaker 1: The league, but he was aware that you would launch
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  Speaker 1: the league.
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  Speaker 2: We went to him. We went to him. We actually
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  Speaker 2: offered the NBA ten percent of the league for free,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, we're using a lot of their former players.
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  Speaker 2: We wanted some kind of working relationship so they they
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  Speaker 2: didn't want it, and we just told them we was
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  Speaker 2: gonna do it anyway, and and that they wasn't gonna
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  Speaker 2: stop us because we kind of know how to operate.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I would think from previous encounters.
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  Speaker 3: After six seasons, y'all showing success. I can even see
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  Speaker 3: during the All Star weekend having a Big Three, you know,
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  Speaker 3: with the OG players versus players like all of that
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  Speaker 3: makes perfect sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: Aree me too. What they should be worried about, to
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  Speaker 2: be honest, instead of the Big Three is there's some
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  Speaker 2: foreign investors talking about starting the A B A Again.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's true competition because that's five on five professional basketball,
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  Speaker 2: and these dudes can pay. They can pay big money,
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  Speaker 2: big bigger money than the NBA. So they should start
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  Speaker 2: worrying about the Big Three and doing what they're doing
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  Speaker 2: to us. They should work with us so they can
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  Speaker 2: have a bigger foot print in basketball, and then they
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  Speaker 2: should worry about this ABA that's coming.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, what do you think about these
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  Speaker 1: contracts that the NBA is given out right, they're given
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  Speaker 1: out huge contracts, Like these numbers don't even make sense
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  Speaker 1: to me, But does and how does that affect you?
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  Speaker 1: Like the players say, look, I need a little more
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  Speaker 1: money because I'm seeing what these guys are getting over here.
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  Speaker 2: Like they know, they know, you know, we're not the
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  Speaker 2: NBA and if they could get that money, they would
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  Speaker 2: and they're welcome to it. Like we don't anybody that's
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: called up to the NBA from the Big Three. We
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: let them go from you know, our players. Sometimes they
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  Speaker 2: become coaches in the NBA. We let them go, because
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  Speaker 2: of course, that's the dream of any basketball player is
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  Speaker 2: to be in the NBA. So we don't have to
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  Speaker 2: stop getting called up from the Big Three. We've had
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: about I mean, I can't name them all, but we've
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  Speaker 2: had over ten players called up to either the G
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: League or actually got ten day contracts in that in
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  Speaker 2: the NBA. So you know, they they watch us, they
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: obviously pick our players and so and we don't and
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  Speaker 2: we don't and we don't stop that.
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  Speaker 3: I love this toy you've been on too, man, because
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  Speaker 3: it feels like this is authentic ice cube, right, and
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: you've always been authentic, but it feels like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm railing against the machine. So who out of the gatekeepers?
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  Speaker 3: Are the gatekeepers worse than sports, Hollywood or the music.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're all around, you know, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's I don't think it's worse than any other Uh,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: you know, I guess profession you know, I think there's
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: you know, people that try to make sure you stay
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: in your lane, and if you look like you're getting
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: out of your lane, you know, sometimes they'll watch you.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they'll put go our rails up, and sometimes they
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: actually put a gate up and make sure you go
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: no further. So, you know, that's what we have happening here.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: And this is just my testimony. But we all got them,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: and we all gotta figure out who they are. We
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: don't have to let them know. We know who they are.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: We just got to figure out how to get around
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: that gate. You know. I used to hop fences when
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I was young all the time. A fence or gate
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: never stopped me from going where I wanted to go.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: So which one is more difficult for you? Because you've
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: seen them when you first started n w A you see,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: when you first started in the entertainment industry doing films,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and now you see them now, which one is the
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: most difficult?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: None of them? They all easy. You just gotta go
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: at them. You can't go you know, you can't try
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: to nice, you know, nice guide all the time. You know,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: all of them folld like a chair. And this one
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: will two.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I saw you on Bill Bard and you was talking
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: about the record industry and you said that the record
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: industry uses a social engineering and rap to encourage criminal behavior.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: At what point did you realize.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: That, Oh man, you know, after I got mature in
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: the game, after I knew that. You know, records were
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: made by committee. You know, a lot of a lot
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: of albums, a lot of dope songs people like, are
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: made by a group of people telling rappers what to
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: say or what's dope, or that line ain't good enough
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: for you know, let's change it. Just get somebody up
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: here that can write and all this kind of hip
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: hop by committee. And yeah, the record companies, it'd be
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: they people in there. You know, I've never had an
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: an R. I've never had a record company guy tell
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: me shit about my music, about how to make it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: You know, some of it they liked, some of it
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: they didn't. Some of it they raised their eyebrow too.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: But that's what they are turned in. That's what they
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: had to accept. And you know, that's hip hop to me.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: What gave it?
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: What gave you?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: The business? Mind? Right over the BT Awards, of course,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: they play Straight out of Compton, the Big Three. I've
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: seen the Big Three as well that weekend. But you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: in all the things, it seems like you knew what
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: you wanted from the door. Right going back to Straight
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: out of Compton and they talking about everybody's so happy
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: to just get paid. It's so happy to be on tour,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: but it was clear that you were always about where's
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: my money, where's my contract? How come I'm not this?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: What gave you that business mind early on? With especially
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: even all this today, are still not on it with
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: all the knowledge that we know and everything that we see,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: you can mean, google so many things. What gave you
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: that business mind so early on?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Watching watching you know, people I know and like, you know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: have to kind of beg for their money, you know,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: like and I ain't gonna say no things, but I've
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: seen people that really, you know, can I get paid?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Can I get paid?
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: And it was just I saw that at you know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen years old, hanging around the industry, just had
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: my antennas up, and you know, when it was time
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: for me to do records, you know, I was in
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a stage where I was happy, you know what I mean,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I'm ready to go, you know, I finally get to
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: live my dream and do music on and put it
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: on wax and put it out and see if I'm
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: good enough, you know. And so I had a publicist
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: who later became my manager, lady by the name of
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Pat sharper Nay. And if you see the Friday movie.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: She helped me produce that movie Friday. You'll see her
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: name on it. But she was the publicist for NWA
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: and I would show up to the interviews early, you
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'm like, you know, if you
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: can't be on time, be early. So I would show
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: up to all the interviews early. Sometimes them dudes wouldn't
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: even show up, like Easy on his Way, drown Way,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: but they never showed up, so I'll be the only
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: one there. So so we got it. We got to
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: chop it up. And she was basically like, do you
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: know who Jerry Heller is? And I'm like, no, who
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: is that? Well, you need to look him up because
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: you just got to watch me. How's your paperwork? You know?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: She starts, just have you signed a contract with them yet?
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, nah, you know, I ain't signed nothing.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: And she's like, you need to make sure you get
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: her attorney before you sign anything with them. And so
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I wanted to put her in a movie, but it
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: just wasn't enough real estate. You know, people just don't
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: know how hard it is to actually put ten years
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: into two hours. But but at the end of the day,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: she hooked me up with a with a lawyer by
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: the name of Michael Ashburn. And and we strategized, you
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: know how we were gonna see if we were being
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: treated fair by ruthless and and and so you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: from seeing that, I knew I knew this would show business.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: So the music and and and the production is one thing,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: but but it's really all about the business that that
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: determines if you're going to be happy with the outcome.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: People talk about how instrument of your wife is too
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: bus what's.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Her role everything? You know what I mean? Her role is.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Just being.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: A confident amuse. You know, she's everything to me. She
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: helped me navigate, She helped me with knowledge and wisdom.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: You know, she's just a fantastic person. You know, she's
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: very ahead of the curve when it comes to muh
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: her thinking. So me and her, you know, we we
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: go together like macaroni and cheese.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: You know, you run everything by her like any.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Not everything, but you know, when when it's time to
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: really uh, she's the one who helped me leaving w A.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because I don't really have
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: nobody talk to about it. She was just my girlfriend, man,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: And and I was you know, everybody tell me, stand
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: in the group, you crazy, You're about to leave? What
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: the hell? And she was the only one saying you good.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Everybody like you anyway, you know what I mean, like
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: your records anyway. So that was that was nice to
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: hear at a time when my whole hip hop world
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: kind of faded to black and I was kind of
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: sitting there figuring out what I'm gonna do.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: And you know, I want to go back to what
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: you were talking about with the record labels, right, because
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: you said it's a it's they make songs by committee.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I always think to myself, well, couldn't the artists change that,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: or they just simply stopped making the rap that had
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: the criminal intent? But you're saying that they're being pushed up. Yeah,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: make these kind of records.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a long time ago. It's been happening forever. Some
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: of your some of the songs that you love, some
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: of the MC's you love, you know it was done
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: by committee. It wasn't.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: A man with a pin and a mic, you know
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. That's me. I'm a man with a
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: pin and a mic.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: It's what the NWA ever you think they was ever
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: part of the big corporate agenda to push negative content.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were, but not not a willing, knowing participant.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: We thought our music was gonna be underground. We didn't
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: make our music big, you know, we did not make
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: our music blow up. We just did it, and we
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be underground dirty Street Records. We
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: thought our records was gonna be sold with the Richard
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Pryor comedy albums and Red Fox and the you know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: dirty Dolomite Records and Ship. That's what we thought. So,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: you know, we didn't have a clue that it was
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: gonna blow up until it blew up, you know, I
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: think you know. One was MTV banding straight out of
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Compton Video. Another was a letter from the FBI. Those
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: are two things that started to just blow the group up.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: But we didn't blow ourselves up. You know, everybody blame us,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: but we didn't. We didn't do it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: You know, we was.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Doing music. We actually had stopped worrying about the industry
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: as much. We was basically doing music that people in
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: our neighborhood were like. So we were like, yeah, let's
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: just do ship. We know, don't I keep crusting. But
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: but let's just keep doing what we've been doing, or no,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: let's just let's let's just do what we know is
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: gonna work around here, so we could be at least
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: neighborhood stars, you know what I'm saying, We can at least,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: you know, get love in the hoods. So that was
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: our uh purpose, and and it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Blew up, and it feels like it was like purposely
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: driven from the West Coast. It feels like on East
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Coast you had you know, the Chuck D's and the
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: krs Ones and those brothers are talk about knowledge yourself
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: and is more positive things. But it feels like the
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: West Coast they really said, we're gonna give you bitches
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: forties and blunts and violence.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know it was uh, I mean,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: y'all had cougie rapping, you know what I mean, school
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: d you had a West Coast. It's just yeah, it
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: was a whole different, just a whole die because we
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: were talking about you know, the Gang Bang mentality, you
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, really and just kind of making
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: sense of what we was seeing and going through and
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: living through and hearing about, and you know, we was
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: just making music out of it instead of you know,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: hearing all these tragic stories and not having a creative
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: outlet to express ourselves about them. You know, I did dope, man,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: because I was sick of dude selling dope, and the
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: neighborhood was just toe up, you know what I mean,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: because of people we loved and knew was strung out,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: and that was whack to me.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask, you know, even since the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: writer strike, how's that affected your business?
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Not at all like what writers strike. I mean, I
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: know the writers in the movie industry, but I'm not
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: writing no movies right now, so it's not affecting me.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: But you know, I want them to get what they
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: think they need. I think it's a situation where they're
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: really worried about AI.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: And what's your thoughts on AI.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I think it's whack. I think it's the worst shit ever.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna put a lot of people out
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: of business and out of work, and everything is gonna
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: be more vanilla. You know, it's not gonna be more creative.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: It's actually gonna go the other way, and people are
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: gonna get lazier, and nobody's gonna work hard, and nobody's
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: gonna attain the knowledge so they can write it down.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: They're just gonna ask for the knowledge and and you
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: know people are just gonna get stupider.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see how the writers win this. I'm
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: part of the writers good I don't see how they
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: win this one, though, because I can see them easily
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: shrinking writers rooms from nine to ten people to two
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: people in AI.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like it's it's a it's a it's a
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: hard one because you know, the studios. I mean, the
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: writers are basically saying, hey, we don't want the studios
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: to use it. We want to go home and use
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: it and charge all up for the script. You know
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like, but it's look, it's uh. You know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: when they invented the light bulb, the candle maker had
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: to figure out how to make money, so he started
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: making candles that smell like all kind of stuff to
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: make money. So adapt, you gotta adapt to die, you know,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: That's just it. And a lot of people are comfortable
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: with their careers and it's hard for him too make
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: that transition to something different.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you too, you know when you
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: when you started getting involved in politics the way you
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: did during the last election and just being willing to
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: engage with Republicans. You know, did that cost you in Hollywood?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't measure that stuff, you know
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: what I mean. I just know you know, when you black,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: things might not go right, you know what I'm saying.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: That's all I know. When you're black, things might be
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: set up perfect, but it still might not go right.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: So be ready for that.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: And I saw you say that being black balled helped
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: NWA cell records, and it made me think to myself,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: how could you? How could you blackball ice Cube in
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty three like you an icon? Like you know,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: like what could they do to ice Cube?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Man? I don't know, you know, I don't really think
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: about I don't think about it like that. I just
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: think about it's hard two to get anybody that's in
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: your heart out of there, you know what I'm saying.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: So if people got me in their hearts, you ain't
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: gonna be able to cancel me. It's gonna be hard
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: to get get me out of there. If I'm not
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: in your heart, it's probably gonna be easier to cancel me.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: So it's it's really not on me.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that Illuminati, Ice.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: QUB probably, so you know, I don't know none of them,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: None of them tell me. Hey, I'm a little I'm
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: saying I don't. I don't participate in none of that.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: So I don't know about it. You know, seem like
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: it's there, but who knows.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: So how do you beat the gatekeepers? Because I feel
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: like we're in an era where there's no gates. I
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: feel like everybody could just do their own things. So
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: how do you how do you beat the gatekeepers that
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: still exist?
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I think you you persist, You don't let them stop you.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: You know they there. Now, everybody that that's in front
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: of the gate ain't always paying attention. You know. I've
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I've duck security in and hit the fence before and
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: got in, so I'll do it again. It's it's it's
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: like I'm not used to going through the front door anyway,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: So if the front doors is locked, then we'll get in.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Because it feels like gatekeeping is such a played
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: out thing for even them to be doing, because it's
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: like it's like you said, it's so many different ways
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: to keep past these gates.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Now, well, it's it's it's to keep a construct it's
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: to keep the keep things working the way they are,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: to keep certain people relegated to the bottom of the pyramid.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: That's why the gate keepers are there.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Now, Tony Allen, you just signed Tony Allen with the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Big Three. Yeah, talk about that.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's great, you know, the Grandfather, you know what
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I mean. We're going back to Memphis. I'm pretty sure
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: people gonna be happy to see him. We also going
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: to Boston too, so people gonna be happy to see him.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: We gonna be in Miami and Detroit and Charlotte, d C.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: So we're happy to attract. We want more, you know,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: we're hoping to get uh, you know, Lemon Pepper, lou
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: up in here to lou Williams, Louis and you know,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: hopefully we get here. We want Isaiah Thomas and Dwight
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Howard and the people you know playing the game. You
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: love dope.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Now, you know, last time, you always say you always,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: you know, talk about the conversation you had with Kobe
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: and you felt that you could have had an opportunity
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: to get Kobe. Is there anybody else that that that
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: you feel like you talk to, that you're talking to
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: that might be a possibility that.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to say names because one
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I do that sometimes it jinks it. You know, I
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: thought Paul Pierce was coming. He told me he was coming.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: He didn't come, So why didn't he come? It was
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: was a reason or he never told me why. He
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: never told me why.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: So some dudes they just done, you know, they like,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I'm retired, man and gave my body to basketball and
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: I don't want to play no more. So we don't
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: want you in the Big Three if you like that anyway.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: We want guys still with a chip on their shoulders,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: still want to go at it, still want to show
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: show the world what they got.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: What was your relationship? Like with Kobe?
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: It was cool, you know, but.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: It was friendly, but it was it was still from afar,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: you know. I I admired him as a as a
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: basketball player. You know, he's much younger than me. So
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: sometimes I don't want to spoil that by you know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: getting in people face more than than than I would.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: As a fan, you know, I like the fan. I
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: like to be a fan because it's not too many
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: things I'm fans of, So I cherished that, like I
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: like to when I go to the games. I like
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: to actually watch the game. I don't care if anybody
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: put a camera on me. All them championships, I'm there,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: but I'm not on the floor. I'm in my suite.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: So that's how I like it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: What about I know, you know you've seen a lot
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: of legends, you know, transition, right just being in hip hop,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: a lot of hip hop legends. When Kobe passed, how
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: did that feel different than those?
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: It felt? Uh, it felt darker because it was just
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: so like, I mean, unbelievable is an overrated word, but
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: you know, it was something that you never even imagine, Like,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: you know, you don't imagine you know, dudes younger than
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: you that are you know in the NBA, a superstar
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: like that Dan, Like we haven't had that think about it.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Who you know, what athlete that I wasn't hereing like
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: uh h Roberto Clemente. I mean, yeah, I wasn't. I
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: wasn't really I was here, but I wasn't focused on baseball.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I was a youngster. I can you know, maybe maybe
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: that to people, you know, he was a superstar baseball player,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: but not yeah, not Kobe level, Like that's never happened
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: to us, And so it was kind of the unthinkable.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: So that's what made it even darker than me tragic.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: And he had his daughter with him because I made
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: it even worse with.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: A six season the Big Three. Mellow, Yeah, I would
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: love to get mellow. Mellow stop balls. Last year you
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: were average fourteen that he was twenty points.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Man, he would kill the league.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: He still practices every day, he still trains Mellow.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Come holler at us, man, You'll have fun. You know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I got these dudes eight. We was in Brooklyn last night, man,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: you know, to see Michael Beasley hanging with Doctor j
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: and see you know, Clyde to glide over here talking
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: to Mario Charmers and and Joe Johnson. It's like Basketball Heaven.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Man's Basketball Heaven and the Big Three. And we're going
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: from town to town like an All Star game, coming
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: in and having fun and making the city better than
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: it was before we got there. You know, we're doing
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: cool community stuff with the Young three. So it's, uh,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: it's a dream come true for me.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: I got a couple more questions. Ron Riser, He's always
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: with you, you know, when he walked to everybody, Oh
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: that's Friday, Like, what what role does he play in
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: your circ Uh.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Well, we're actually cousins. Yeah, yeah, yeah, My father and
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: his mother grew up in Chatham, Louisiana together, and so
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: you know, he's been around and he's like been a
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: right hand and left hand man. You know, he's he
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: handles his business. He's very thorough and he's very business minded.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: So he's my role manager. So he also makes sure
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: everything is right when I when I hit the road,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: and a very good friend. You know, he's my cousin,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: but but I don't like all my cousins, so so
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: you know, he's closer than the cousin to be honest,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: like a brother.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: And last question, you know my Wes Moore y'all out
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: here cooking with that. But I saw a pick the
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: other day, you and you, you and doub c.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Is there ever a chance we could get a West
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Side Connection reunion with you, Dub and Mactin.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Probably not? Probably not. Wow, I don't want to do
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: another west Side Connection. Yeah.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: I saw mac tin on on on Black TV, and
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: you know, I always wonder what what happened with that relationship.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: When you get of course he do, of course he do.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it. To be honest,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: because he know what it is. That's all they need
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: to matter to me. He know what it is. All right.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Well, there you have it, ice Cube ladies, and the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: sixth season of Big Three makes you go out and support.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I gotta get the don mega hoodie man. I hope
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: you're selling those.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know we're gonna hit. We're gonna hit to
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: drop the collection very soon. Will Well, we'll start uh
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: publicizing it. But I'll send you some some gear for sure.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I just need your size as yours too.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, thanks for the invite they invited me to. They
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: invite you because you can't play basketball, but they invited
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: me to do the four point contest. But I was
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: stuck in Charlotte last last night. I got back at
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: ten o'clock.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: But I appreciate you any time.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: No, I got back last night. They invite you you too,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: sure you probably can't even read the rim from the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: four point shot.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I can shoot, you cannot anybody get shoot.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Next city, Me and Charlamagne anytime man will do the
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: no point Let me know which one. Y'all want to come,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: put some money on it and we'll put the get
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: the money to charity.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: That'll be nice. You have it.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: It's ice Cube, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,