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- 0:03Welcome back to AM eight hundred ckl W. I love it when I get
- 0:08an opportunity to talk tech, and I love it when I get to chat
- 0:12with Carmi Levy. So let me tell you, like this is a perfect
- 0:15confluence of the two things. Carmie, how you doing today? You are
- 0:19one of the foremost tech experts that I get to chat with on a regular
- 0:22basis. Well, I'm talking with you, John, So it's a happy
- 0:25day for me as well. I promise you. The pleasure is absolutely online.
- 0:29I love when we get to just nerd out on there. It absolutely
- 0:33makes my day every single time. And thank you so much for having me.
- 0:37Well, thank you for joining. Well, listen, there's some interesting
- 0:39news that's happening right now in the country. The first one here we found
- 0:43out yesterday that online streaming services must now pay into a fund for Canadian news
- 0:49and content. What is happening here, Carmie. Well, so we've all
- 0:54heard about Bill c. Levin, which became the Online Streaming Actist the law.
- 0:59It was an act of last year. It passed the House, had
- 1:02passed the Senate, it received royal assent. All that good stuff. What
- 1:06normally happens whenever a law like that becomes the law is then it gets handed
- 1:10over to our national regulator, in this case the CRGC, and then they
- 1:14figure out how to enact it, how to make it manageable in the day
- 1:18to day, What are the rules that are going to apply to everyone,
- 1:19what's it going to look like in practice. So that's what the CRGC has
- 1:23been doing. They've been holding public consultations, they've been figuring stuff out,
- 1:26and they've been issuing announcements about what this law is going to look like as
- 1:32it is enforced. And so this week their announcement was a big one.
- 1:34They basically said that streaming services like Netflix or Disney or Spotify, they are
- 1:42now going to have to pay upwards of five percent of their annual revenue into
- 1:47a fund that will then go to provide funding to local and Aboriginal broadcasting,
- 1:53local news and local news on radio and TV, which of course we know
- 1:59have been signific short funded in recent years, as well as French language content.
- 2:02So what this does really is it levels the playing field because for years,
- 2:07traditional broadcasters had to spend on this, whereas traditional streaming companies did not.
- 2:15You know, your Netflix subscription, big American company comes into Canada,
- 2:20collects billions of dollars in revenue from Canadian subscribers, doesn't contribute back to the
- 2:24market to ensure that Canadian production, Canadian productions can see the light of day.
- 2:30So this just ensures that everyone's playing by the same rules and it ensures
- 2:34that funding continues to flow to make sure that Canadian stories get told, Canadian
- 2:38productions get made. Canadians who work in the entertainment and production industry will continue
- 2:45to have jobs because the money will be there. So this is a really
- 2:46important announcement. Netflix of course not very happy about it, as we would
- 2:51expect, but it really is a good news story for Canadians. So it's
- 2:54gonna be raising two hundred million dollars a year, I see here, But
- 2:59I guess my question, and this is not a tech side of things,
- 3:01but just since we're on this, I got to imagine they're probably going to
- 3:05be raising our bills by I don't know, an equal amount to what they're
- 3:08losing to make up for it. But you're absolutely right. There is never
- 3:12a free lunch in anything, and that definitely applies when it comes to your
- 3:15streaming bill. So if anybody thought that Netflix and others were simply going to
- 3:20swallow that two hundred million dollars a year and not pass that on to us.
- 3:24I think that would have been spectacularly naive. So no, we will
- 3:29over time and likely be spending more on our subscriptions because of that. Those
- 3:32costs will be passed through to us. But I think as Canadians we need
- 3:37to really think about what is the cost? In other words, if our
- 3:39Netflix bill could be two dollars a month less, but we would have a
- 3:43Canadian production industry that was in trouble that you know, your kids couldn't get
- 3:47jobs in this industry because there just wasn't any money for it, and Canada
- 3:52would no longer be able to produce great TV and movies and radio. Would
- 3:57we really want that? So a cheaper Netflix bill versus a vibrant Canadian you
- 4:02know, Canadian cultural landscape, I think most of us would pay a couple
- 4:06of months, a couple bucks more for a month in order to have that
- 4:11advantage of Canadian funded productions north of the border. At the end of the
- 4:15day, you know, you sort of have to decide what is the the
- 4:18greater cost. And I think in this case, starving Canadian productions. Really
- 4:23wasn't an answer than anybody would have been happy with. Yeah, well,
- 4:26we'll see how it all unfolds, because we're seeing statements from all of the
- 4:29streaming companies. We'll assess and see what it looks like. But it's probably
- 4:31gonna be bad for Canadians. We'll see what the RD for Canadians looks like.
- 4:35Watch that bill and be prepared to look at your offerings to drop the
- 4:40services if they're too expensive, or maybe move to an ad supported to her
- 4:44to save yourself a few bucks every month, which is a good strategy.
- 4:47Also, now let's move on talking about deleting evidence and dismissing reports. What
- 4:54is going on with our Canadian agencies and fighting cybercrime. So we have an
- 4:59augurer gen Her name is Karen Hogan, and she took a look at how
- 5:01the federal government held all of their departments and agencies. How are they dealing
- 5:05with cybercrime? In other words, when cybercrime happens, does Canada have a
- 5:11comprehensive strategy to deal with it? The Canadians have the resources in place that
- 5:15they know where to go if they've been defrauded or if they've been somehow compromised,
- 5:19their data has been breached. And what our Auditor General found out was
- 5:23that really it's a disconnected mess that you have all sorts of different organizations,
- 5:30the RCMP, the Communications Security Establishment or the CSC, the CRTC, public
- 5:34Safety Canada, and everybody's got different resources and different websites and different platforms and
- 5:40different rules and different points of contact, and no one seems to be in
- 5:44charge. And what often happens is if you're a Canadian and you file a
- 5:47report with one of them saying hey, I've been cyber preached and I had
- 5:51to have a problem, please investigate, if they managed to file it with
- 5:56the wrong organization, what ends up happening is the organization in some cases will
- 6:00say sorry, we're not the organization to deal with that, but we will
- 6:02let pass that information along to the right organization. In many cases that never
- 6:08gets shared. So what ends up happening is Canadians are being victimized by cybercrime,
- 6:14but the organizations that are tasked with keeping them safer aren't coordinating amongst themselves
- 6:18to ensure that we are safe, and that is a huge problem. Otter
- 6:23General basically says, we've got to do better. So This would be like
- 6:27picking up the phone calling nine one one. They say they're sending an officer
- 6:30over and nothing happens. That's right, And oh, leo, you shouldn't
- 6:34you shouldn't be calling us. You should have called these other people, call
- 6:38this other lawn maybe nine to one two, whatever it is. But don't
- 6:41worry. This time, we will call them and let you let them.
- 6:44We'll send them along. And then they drop the ball. The report sits
- 6:47in a corner somewhere gathering dust, and nothing ever happens. It's terrifying,
- 6:51especially considering just how significant cybercrime has become. We hear but cyber attacks almost
- 6:57every day. Now, they're getting bigger, they're or sophisticated, they're making
- 7:00more money off of the backs of hard, hard working Canadians. And now
- 7:05we find out that the federal government really doesn't have any plan at all to
- 7:09keep us safe. And that is one of those things that keeps me up
- 7:12at night, because you would expect, if we have law enforcement for all
- 7:15other kinds of crime, that we should have similar kinds of law enforcement resources
- 7:18in place for cybercrime. And according to this report, clearly that is not
- 7:23the case. It's just wild to think that it's not at least on the
- 7:28government's radar enough to be talking about it, studying it, trying to figure
- 7:31out what to do about, you know, getting to a stronger level of
- 7:35it nationally because and you know subnationally as well, all through all levels of
- 7:40government. Because as you were saying, I mean, cybercrime, it can
- 7:44affect you far more than someone you know, mugging you on the street.
- 7:47You could lose absolutely everything. If they're able to get into your systems,
- 7:53they could impersonate your identity and steal it. I mean, it's it's terrifying.
- 7:57It is. And anyone who's ever spoken to victim of a cybercrime,
- 8:00and I certainly have, you know, over the years, and increasingly so
- 8:05in recent years, it's become an increasing sort of percentage of my practice is
- 8:09that you know, the damage isn't just a one time thing. It's ongoing.
- 8:13It can affect people for life. And that's just in one case.
- 8:16Imagine how many tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of Canadians are being touched
- 8:20by this every year and they are not being supported by the governments that claim
- 8:26to be there for them. In some cases, evidence that was supposed to
- 8:30have been passed on to law enforcement. What was not passed on. In
- 8:33some cases, it was deleted, you know. In other cases, the
- 8:37right kinds of people who should have been hired for certain jobs were never hired
- 8:41because no one bothered to write the job descriptions. I mean, all of
- 8:45these things are just it strikes me as incredibly bushly. But considering just how
- 8:50significant cybercrime has become, we simply can't afford to drop the ball on this
- 8:56one because those costs are going to continue to mushroom throughout society. And we
- 9:00can either invest now in fixing this and ensuring proper coordination, or we're going
- 9:05to pay for it big time on the other side. And I don't think
- 9:07Canadians really want that. No, I would agree with you on that one.
- 9:11Now, these first two stories, while they've been you know, very
- 9:15fun and they have more of a tech legislation focus, we haven't really had
- 9:18an opportunity to week out Karmie, and I think that this is our opportunity
- 9:24here. With these AI headphones. Okay, apparently you're going to be able
- 9:28to hear a single person in a noisy crowd. Yeah, they call them
- 9:33targets. Down hearing and it comes to us. It's a research project from
- 9:39scientists at the University of Washington. It's an AI powered headphone system that allows
- 9:43you to essentially look at someone in a crowd, and then what the headphones
- 9:50do is they identify that person and the zero in on them and they focus
- 9:54just on what they're saying, and they filter out what anyone else is saying.
- 9:58Anyone who's ever warned hearing aids and when you're in a big crowded situation,
- 10:03my mom wears them and she struggles with us all the time. It's
- 10:05very difficult to focus in on the person that you are talking to and ignore
- 10:11everyone else. The hearing ad just wants to pick up everything and amplify it.
- 10:15So what this artificial intelligence does is it identifies the person that you're talking
- 10:18to, and it manages to filter at everyone else. It's incredibly intelligent.
- 10:22It knows when the person that you're talking to is moving around the room,
- 10:26so it continues to follow them. And essentially it means that people who have
- 10:31hearing disabilities, including my mom, stand a chance of having better communication,
- 10:35better interaction, all thanks to AI. You know, it's interesting because AI
- 10:39always get such a bum rap. We always talk about the dystopian stories around
- 10:45AI. It's going to make humanity go extinct, it's going to take our
- 10:48jobs, it's going to kill the economy. But there's so many examples of
- 10:52artificial intelligence in medical applications like this one, where it makes such a difference.
- 10:58It can detect Alzheimer's years before current techniques. It can identify certain cardiac
- 11:05and neurological diseases also far earlier. This will save lives and improve the lives
- 11:11of others. And this is a perfect example of that. And so you
- 11:13know, from where I sit a I's got two sides to it. This
- 11:16is one of the positive ones, and I absolutely hope right now it's only
- 11:20prototype, but it's one of those technologies that you can see it. You
- 11:22can see an Apple, for example, looking at us and going, hey,
- 11:26why don't we take the software and incorporate this into our AirPods. And
- 11:28so now hearing aids are no longer something that cost thousands of dollars and are
- 11:33proprietary technology. It's something that you can buy for a few hundred bucks at
- 11:35at Electronics Stir near your house. I think we could all go for that
- 11:39and certainly you don't have to be a senior citizen with hearing problems to appreciate
- 11:43that we will all benefit. Well, that's just it sounds incredible the technology,
- 11:48but also the application for it, as you said, just truly able
- 11:52to really help and change lives. And that's when technology is at its absolute
- 11:56best. Karmie, I love talking with you. I'm glad we got to
- 11:58geek out on the last topic there. You're the tech expert I go to
- 12:03and I want to learn more. Thank you for your time today. Really
- 12:05appreciate being here today with you. John, Thanks so much for having me. Thank you