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This often weaponized “fact”... is wrong | HBR Talk 269 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk two sixty nine. This often weaponized fact
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  is wrong. I'm your host, Hannah Wallen here with nonsense annihilator Lauren Brooks
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  and the personification of perceptivity Mike Stevenson to continue digging into. Actually, we
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  aren't going to continue digging because that was what I wrote last week. Where
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  did what I wrote this week go? Well, there's our first technical difficulty.
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  Apparently I must have hit control Z at some point and it undid that.
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  That's okay, So we're going to go through this article about the two
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  percent wouzle. The two percent wouzle being the woozle claim that only two percent
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  of rape allegations are false. This article is by Rick Bradford of the Center
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  for Male Psychology. It's not a new article like Recent Reason, but this
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  is a tool that I think that everybody needs to be aware of because we
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  get hit with us in debate a lot. But before we do that,
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  of the page. So on the subject you due process and this is really
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  on the subject of due process. We find ourselves very often in heated debate
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  with feminists who treat the civil right as a barrier to justice rather than recognizing
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  it and in its actual nature, as a protection against injustice. Wrongful imprisonment
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  is an injustice. Many of their arguments on this front rely on fallacies,
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  and the most oft repeated fallacy is twofold. Obviously. The first part is
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  the unfounded claim that rarity can make an justice less egregious and less worthy of
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  corrective action, and that's based on the woozle that this injustice in particular is
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  exceedingly rare. By taking down that woozle, Rick Bradford counters both. So
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  I really wanted to go over this in part just because, you know,
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  part of what we do as a movement, a big part of what we
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  do as a movement is push and pull on that Overton window in regard to
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  how people view their civil rights, and in particular people's willingness to throw men's
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  civil rights under the bus under the guise of protecting women's safety. We want
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  to get that Overton window all the way over to know, civil rights are
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  not compromisable things. They're not things that you can just give up for safety
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  nets, particularly safety nets that aren't even realm But safety nets are dangerous in
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  fact all the time. I've gone over that in many ways and many times.
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  But in this instance, we want to point out that it's it's not
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  even for a safety net in this in this instance, it's for a lie.
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  So having this tool to push on that overtin window to keep that overtin
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  window at No, we don't give up that civil right for this perceived safety
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  net. That's that's very important. So I'm going to get us out of
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  the open screen here. This, like I said, is from the Center
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  for Male Psychology. You can see their header at the top of the article
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  here on the screen, and a title is false allegations of rape. The
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  true extent remains unknown, And this is something that I think is very important
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  for us to understand. We make a lot of claims back and forth between
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  us and feminists. They're very different standards within different types of research, and
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  very different methods to determine whether an allegation meets the standard for being deemed false
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  by the researchers, and that really makes it difficult to settle on a number.
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  So the first paragraph. The mental health impact on a man of having
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  a false allegation of rape made against him can be devastating, and it is
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  not uncommon for such men to become suicidal. However, the quest to estimate
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  the rate of false allegations of rape is like hunting the snark. One does
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  not even know what it is, and I think that for Americans that would
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  be snipe hunting. One does not even what it is. One is looking
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  for, let alone where to find it. Unlike the snark, however,
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  we know it exists. I focus here on female victims. Perpetrators of rape
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  in English law are necessarily biological males. And that's the first thing to point
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  out. How do we know how many how many allegations exist in the UK
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  Because we don't know how many how many women are accused? Right, so
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  when we say what percentage, are we talking about just percentage against men,
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  just percentage of female accusers. Because men already faced the injustice that when they
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  are raped if they are in the UK, unlike if they were the perpetrator.
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  Their perpetrator doesn't face the punishment of the stigma of the label rapist like
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  a male perpetrator would, so he goes on. What constitutes an allegation an
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  anonymous claim in a social media post such as hashtag me too, or an
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  allegation made within a family court submission over a contested child contact where bitterness is
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  the ruling passion or report to the police which may not result in a prosecution,
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  or perhaps only those that do. And what does false mean? Certainly,
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  an allegation which is entirely fabricated where no sexual encounter at all ever took
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  place would be false. But what a sexual intercourse did take place and is
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  not disputed? But consent is disputed, how can we ever know the truth
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  about consent? Really? Conviction does not necessarily mean the defendant was truly guilty,
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  and exoneration does not necessarily mean he was innocent. That's how I want
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  to go over something in here. This is like the first thing I really
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  wanted to make a point on, And I've talked about this on Twitter and
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  people kind of took it wrong as me saying that we should presume guilt.
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  It's not that we should presume guilt, it's a society does presume guilt.
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  So when a man is accused of rape, in particular a man, because
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  women get away with a lot of stuff, like people will treat it as
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  not even a big deal. If a woman's accused of raping a man,
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  right, they'll think it's funny. They'll act like it's well, he was
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  lucky. You know, he probably liked it, you know. Blah blah
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  blah, all those stupid, thoughtless, heartless comments that people make about male
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  victims. Right, but when a man is accused, if he has proved
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  innocent, there will still be people that think of him as a rapist who
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  got away with it. M Right, there will still be people who will
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  talk about him as a rapist who got away with it, And there'll still
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  be people who will treat him as a rapist who got away with it,
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  especially if they're not familiar with the case. It will make it more difficult
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  for him to find employment because the news articles that come up on searches that
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  his employer will do on search engines to find out what his reputation is won't
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  necessarily come up in any particular order. So if he has exonerated, the
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  exoneration article might not be in the top of the search, might not be
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  on the first page of the search, might not be even prominent in the
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  search results, he may have to actually bring it up himself, which is
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  very uncomfortable, and of course dredges it up every single time his social circle.
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  What's the social circle going to do? They're going to be divided.
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  Seven years in Hell guy has lost friends over his allegations that he faced even
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  though it was not just proved, it was conclusively proved. It was irrefutably
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  proved that he was elsewhere during every single point in time where she named a
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  place and time and date in an allegation. And yet there are people who
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  will not associate with him anymore because they think that he's a wife beater and
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  a rapist who got away with it by getting his accuser declared a vexatious litigant
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  for complaining about his actions despite all of that evidence. Right, It's I
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  mean, I don't know how I would feel being a man these days.
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  I think I would almost have to walk around with a body camera on because
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  it's so often it's just one person's word against the other. And if you
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  don't have the actual evidence, if you can't hear the words coming out of
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  the other person's mouth, then you know you're screwed. It's it's always going
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  to be you versus your word versus the other persons, and you know,
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  God, how do you not walk around feeling like there's a sword of damn
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  Cleys over your head all the time and all the time. Yeah, you
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  know, And I've always, I mean, I've always been passionate about this,
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  but my level of understanding was a fraction before twenty nineteen of it what
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  it became in twenty nineteen, because that's when you know, I was That's
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  when I was assaulted at work and then had to prove that I didn't get
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  into a fight. And it's I hate talk about this because it's embarrassing because
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  I got my ass kicked, but I got my ass kicked because I didn't
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  fight back. And also because the person who attacked me was twenty years younger
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  than me. You know, from her perspective, she attacked an old lady,
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  Like I'm not old old, I'm only middle aged. But still,
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  in any case, to this day, I run into people from my company
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  because we it's I'm a direct support professional for intellectually disabled adults. It's a
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  very professional environment, right, This is not someplace where you would expect something
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  like this to happen. It's like getting I don't know, it's like getting
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  attacked in an office at a at a at a corporate headquarters or something very
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  or or as by another medical professional in a hospital. Just didn't It should
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  never have happened, but in any case, the fact that it did has
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  people assuming that I did something to this this assailant of mine. And so
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  when we have people that come prn or as a substitute to the homes where
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  I work, and um, they're from other homes where like the gossip got
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  there, but not all of the facts got there. They come in and
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  they sort of treat me like I'm a bomb that's going to go off.
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  And it's every single time I always feel bad about it. It's like I
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  did nothing. I literally just did my job and I got I went through
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  this ordeal, and you know, I went through this ordeal because somebody didn't
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  want to do their job and I wouldn't cover for them. That was basically
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  the underlying fact. And I you know, I even even then judge apologized
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  to me, Like that's when when a judge of polizes to you for the
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  ordeal that you went through, it's you know, she was embarrassed at this
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  turned into what it turned into, right, so you expect that, well,
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  this is over right, not it's just a bump. You're going to
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  get past it. And so we're talking about a charge that was a misdemeanor,
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  a false charge that was a misdemeanor. You know, even if I
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  had not fought it, it would have gone off my record in six months.
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  If I had just said, well, it's not really worth it.
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  I'll just take the l be convicted of this misdemeanor and and uh, move
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  on with my life. You know, it would permanently be out there that
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  I had gotten into a fight like a teenager at the age of forty eight,
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  but which would be embarrassing too, because I mean, who doesn't grow
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  out of that by the time they're an adult. I know a lot of
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  people don't, but not in an environment where I work, you know.
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  But I can't imagine like that was for a misdemeanor. That was for something
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  that in some places is fairly normal behavior. You know, if we'd have
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  been in a bar, if I'd have been a bartender or like wait staff
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  at a bar and grill or something, and that had happened, but it
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  wouldn't have been as weird, right, but a felony like rape. Imagine
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  having something like that follow you around where people think that that you did something
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  that you didn't do, and they're not just looking at you as somebody who
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  might have a temper and go off and cause another fight, right, They're
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  they're looking at you as a sexual predator, you know, and people treat
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  sexual predators like there's some kind of monster. You know, this person is
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  going to eat me alive, like that would be horrible. And at the
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  other end of it, there's people that will treat you like pond scum,
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  like or a disease. So what men go through when he talked about the
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  psychological effects will men go through when they're they've experienced something like this. A
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  false allegation is not a minor experience. It's not some little blip in your
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  life that you know, every so often you get reminded that this inconvenient and
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  upsetting thing happened to you and it's like, well, that really sucked,
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  but now this is the way I live. Nope, it's a dark cloud
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  that is always in your sky for the rest of your life. No matter
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  how sunny everything else gets, that dark cloud is always there. Just kind
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  of waiting to get into your peripheral vision or put itself right in front of
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  your face, depending on what you're doing and how you're who you're dealing with,
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  and you know how you're living and everything. And on top of that,
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  you have like seven years in hell, guy has PTSD. You have
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  post traumatic stress from this. Even a minor allegation gives a level of post
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  traumatic stress. I document things that I don't have to document, and I
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  find myself doing it rather frequently, especially if somebody has acted jumpy around me,
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  Like I document the shit out of that evening. And it's a habit.
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  It's you know, I mean, I'm gonna do it because I'm an
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  MRA and I know how important that is anyway, But it's a habit that
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  comes from a little bit of paranoia that comes from that post traumatic stress of
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  having people think I did something bad that I wouldn't do. I wouldn't get
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  into a fight now, like for one thing, I'm old, But it's
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  you know, you mature out of that that way of dealing with conflict.
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  You know, if you're it's one thing if you're attacked and you had to
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  defend yourself, but you mature out of attacking somebody as a as a means
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  of dealing with your anger and your conflict. And I mean I worked really
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  hard for that when I was a teenager because I had anger management issues.
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  Back then, I was on six different steroids, I had roid rage.
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  So it's just it's it's hard to I don't know if I can fully get
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  it across. But if it's that big for me, that tiny little thing
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  happening to me, if it's that big for me, you know, imagine
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  how it would feel to never know that somebody isn't going to do this to
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  you again, as as a person who'd been through an allegation of rape or
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  any other agreed to behavior, beating your partner, molesting a child, being
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  a threat to two children. I I just recently saw mister repsiin did a
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  video on his ex is putting him through a massive ordeal of malicious prosecution and
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  vexatious litigation, and she accused him of being dangerous to children. That's just
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  just a phrase that is it should never be used lightly. Ever where you
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  say this person is dangerous to children, you better have a hell of a
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  lot of proof if you're going to say that about a person, right,
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  But our court system, you know, they allow that and they don't do
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  anything about it. She's filed frivolous restraining orders against him, and he may
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  be able to put a stop to the vexatious litigation if he goes the route
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  of filing a civil case against her for it, but he won't get any
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  she won't be penalized for it, he won't get any money out of it.
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  The courts don't punish women for lying about men. Hm. So and
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  I feel bad for the guy because I know, I kind of know just
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  from seeing the men I know who have gone through this, how how their
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  lives have changed and how their psychology has changed. Like that's going to change
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  him too, And it's not fair because he's not developing organically as a human
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  beings. He's being put through an ordeal that's going to change him forever in
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  ways that he probably wouldn't have sought out in a million years to change that
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  direction. So, so, yeah, he's in he's in quite a bit
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  of a situation. I mean, I think in his situation, um that
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  this this X seems to really not be very smart about the things that she
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  was doing. So I'm pretty sure that it's gonna go in his favor,
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  but even still having to not put the mental anguish aside, right for two
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  seconds, if you can look at how much money he's got to spend to
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  defend himself, you know what I mean? And what happens to the men
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  who who don't have that money to defend themselves against false allegations like that,
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  Whole lives get torn up. Yeah, I mean, there there are men
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  who have spent Like the longest I saw on the Innocence Project's website was thirty
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  eight years. Jesus, Many many people in the United States of his generation,
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  because that guy was a baby boomer. Many many people of his generation
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  work at whatever job, worked at whatever job they did, they get their
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  job, they would work thirty years and they would retire. Thirty years is
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  a career. And he was in prison, wrongfully incarcerated for thirty eight years.
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  Jesus. Yeah. So, I mean, like that's just the idea
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  that it's not a big deal to falsely accuse somebody. It's it's very easy
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  to debunk that. Of course, it's a big deal for the person that
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  it's done to. It can range from being a life changing experience that is
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  more than mildly inconvenient. Even a minor false allegation is more than mildly inconvenient,
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  changes your whole social life. Right, A major allegation changes your employability,
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  It dramatically changes your social life, changes your psychology. It makes you
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  more cautious for the rest of your life. It makes you more paranoid for
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  the rest of your life. Absolutely, right, that's that's the least impact.
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  The worst impact is false imprisonment. M you know, in prison.
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  Prison is not a place that's you know, just oh, you're just go
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  in there and it's inconvenient and it's awful and you don't like being in there.
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  No, you're in there with dangerous people who really did commit crimes.
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  There are people who are murdered in prison, and then there's also vigilante violence,
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  which can result from a false allegation. I would I would say to
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  ask Luke Harwood, but you can't unless you have a wig aboard and he
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  might not answer. Yeah. So like that's again exoneration you may not mean
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  innocence, and there are people who can get away with crimes that they committed.
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  Exoneration can happen, you know, because of false evidence or for other
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  reasons. You can also not be exonerated and not be found guilty, and
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  then everybody really is in doubt of the result, right because if you get
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  a quote get off on a technicality, which people say all the time when
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  the police are found to have violated somebody's due process rights and made it doubtful
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  whether or not their evidence was valid. At people just assume that evidence was
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  valid but they didn't get to use it, or the individual was guilty,
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  but again they got off on a technicality. So you could be proved innocent
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  or you could not be proved guilty, and people will still say you're guilty.
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  It is possible for people who are guilty to be in that situation,
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  but it doesn't necessarily mean that any given person who is in that situation is
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  guilty. And you know, our society has this idea that innocent until proven
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  guilty is only for court, so they'll treat the individual as a person who
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  got away with a crime. And yeah, a lynch mob showing at you're
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  up at your residence is more than slightly worse, um than a false imprisonment.
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  It's significantly worse. You know, you die, you don't get a
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  chance at recourse. You can't get released from death, even in retirement age,
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  you can't. There's there's nothing after that. Albert Nader Retro gave us
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  ten dollars a Canadian and saw said, I saw a segment from the Real
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  talking about that's R. E. A. L. Talking about what if
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  men had a nine pm curfew? They were decided um any love rocks,
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  but the comment section is full of hate. I think that maybe you meant
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  undecided. I don't know, but the comment section is full of hate,
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  and that doesn't surprise me. There's a lot of feminists that will act like,
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  if men had a curfew, rape would stop happening. But since a
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  significant chunk of sexual violences committed by women, and feminists will even tell you
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  that rape is mostly people that know the victim and it happens in familiar circumstances,
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  so it's kind of stupid to say giving anybody a nine pm curfew would
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  stop rape. And then, of course, if men had a curfew,
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  civilization would stop happening. Yeah, we did that. If like women like
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  walk off the job for all kinds of demonstrations all the time, and society
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  continues as normally, if men walked off the job for one day, society
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  would collapse and it would take centuries to to put it back to normal,
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  if it ever did get back to normal. And it doesn't matter when we
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  begin that twenty four hours of men walking off the job, if it's at
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  nine pm, yeah, yeah, if even if it only goes for six
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  hours, if if if men have a curfew of six hours, like six
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  hours, that would amount to six hours of men walking off the job because
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  they have no choice. And yeah, even that would be an economic and
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  social disaster that would take us years of not decades to recover from another lockdowns
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  that occurred in recent history. So the first thing that that would happen would
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  be people would find out what society without cops is really like, because is
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  and I yeah, there are women police officers. They're about the same percentage
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  I think as women in the military. And of course, if the men
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  in the military walked off the job for twenty four hours, that would that
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  would be you know, if that happened in one country and other countries knew
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  about it, that twenty four hours would be the target twenty four hours for
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  an attack, because who's going to defend In the United States, fourteen percent
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  of the military is female, and most of them are in you know,
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  office positions where they're running a computer and telling the men what to do.
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  That that would not go well for us. But yeah, a twenty four
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  hour, twenty four hour break. We saw in twenty twenty and twenty twenty
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  one what happens when you shut society down at night, right, and even
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  then essential workers you had, you know, well, the men who who
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  ride around the police cars and make sure that their presence is a deterrent against
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  crime. The men who are there if if a fire happens, right,
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  The men who are going to go into your home and get you out if
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  your house is burning. Those men didn't get get shut down. Those men
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  still had to do their jobs. The men that keep your electricity going,
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  the men that keep your water clean, you know, the men that keep
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  gas coming to your house if you've got a gas line. Those men didn't
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  get time off. They did. They were essential workers. The men on
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  the base here in in you know, the the area I live and has
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  right Patterson Air Force Base. There wasn't very much of that that got shut
• 29:42
  down in comparison to the rest of the city. You know, those men
• 29:48
  didn't get didn't get their unemployment like everybody else did. You know, they
• 29:55
  didn't get shut down. You know, they what they did, they shut
• 29:59
  down the grocery store or as they shut down their restaurants and stuff like that.
• 30:02
  And to this day, you know, and it's only like a year
• 30:04
  or two later here, but most places aren't open late now. Places that
• 30:11
  were open all night are closing at nine or ten o'clock at night now,
• 30:15
  and places that are open late stay open till midnight. And this city used
• 30:23
  to be awake all night right Dayton used to be awake all night, just
• 30:27
  like New York, the city that never sleeps, right, but not now
• 30:33
  everything is changed, and it's it's been that way. I had a co
• 30:40
  worker train at one of my houses that I work at, and I was
• 30:45
  I helped to train her, and we were talking about that. She's from
• 30:48
  New York, she's been here for four years, and she's like, this
• 30:51
  place is just dead. There's so many closed businesses. That's what happens when
• 30:56
  you shut down. That's what happens. When you take men off the job.
• 31:00
  They don't come back. They go where there is work. Right now,
• 31:03
  they wasn't here, so we had a mass exodus from the city,
• 31:10
  and we had a bunch of places open up in smaller communities outside the city.
• 31:15
  And that's where they are now. And yeah, Wes Woolliver says Wright
• 31:22
  Patterson Air Force Base, that's where the aliens are. So I've heard,
• 31:26
  so I've heard. I have not seen any any little green men, just
• 31:32
  just you know, a bunch of people talking about it stuff. I haven't
• 31:36
  seen any spaceships either, So there you go. There. If there there's
• 31:41
  aliens, they already know I'm socially awkward and they're not talking to me.
• 31:48
  But Albert or Mike Michael Fox gave us twenty dollars New Zealand and said,
• 31:53
  uh, I don't know what New Zealand dollars are, whether they're dollars or
• 31:56
  something else. I don't know what they are, but n zd so I'm
• 31:59
  pretty sure that's New New Zealand. The problem is that women are believed too
• 32:02
  readily and toxic women know how to use the rules as a weapon. I've
• 32:07
  experienced this since I was a kid. Our society just has a blind spot
• 32:12
  for evil, manipulative, manipulative women. And that is true, but it's
• 32:19
  it's more true now than ever, and it's I'm going to cite something weird.
• 32:23
  I like old Western television shows, right, and I was watching one
• 32:34
  and I can't remember which, I want to say it was The Rifleman where
• 32:40
  there was an episode where there was a husband and wife or a brother and
• 32:46
  sister. They they had, you know, their evil plans to coerce somebody
• 32:52
  over money, and the woman used her sexuality and she leveled a false aladation
• 33:00
  or she tried to orchestrate a false allegation, and she got caught and the
• 33:05
  people of the town were scandalized, and she was she had to admit,
• 33:10
  you know, her wrongdoing, and she was embarrassed. And this would have
• 33:15
  been made. This is a this is black and white. It would have
• 33:17
  been made like during the fifties, maybe the early sixties, but that kind
• 33:24
  of theme in television shows. Alfred Hitchcock had one where a guy is driving
• 33:30
  his wife around after she's she's been a victim of rape, and she sees
• 33:37
  a guy on the street and she's like, that's the guy. That's the
• 33:40
  guy that did it. So he pulls the car over and he chases the
• 33:44
  guy into a building and he kills him with a hammer, and you know,
• 33:47
  then he gets back into the car with his wife and is driving down
• 33:52
  the street. She sees another man and she's like, that's the guy.
• 33:54
  That's the guy that did it. And he realizes that she sees that in
• 33:59
  every man now and she's kind of lost her mind and he just killed somebody
• 34:05
  not knowing you know, that's probably an innocent guy, and you like,
• 34:09
  there's a bunch of different things like that. I've seen that in a lot
• 34:13
  of different old shows. There were Twilight Zone episodes of that with that.
• 34:17
  There were I think that was in at least one Star Trek episode, but
• 34:24
  a lot of old old TV shows, and there were old movies with that
• 34:29
  same theme. People who have been aware of this for a long time.
• 34:32
  It's been in the last maybe forty or fifty years that feminists have tried to
• 34:37
  make it so that we are not allowed to acknowledge that, we're not allowed
• 34:42
  to talk about it, and we're not allowed to believe that it's a possibility.
• 34:49
  We have to just believe the woman when she makes an allegation. So
• 34:55
  it's it's definitely we do need to get back to a point of skepticis him.
• 35:00
  Albert Nada Retro gave us five dollars and said, I meant divided,
• 35:04
  and grapists wouldn't obey a curfew because they are criminals. Then that is another
• 35:07
  point. If somebody really was that uh stereotypical, evil, crazy guy that's
• 35:14
  gonna hide in a dark alley and jump some woman and and hurt her.
• 35:19
  Um that that guy's not gonna care if he has a nine o'clock curfew.
• 35:23
  He's gonna do that all night, no, right, right, So I
• 35:29
  mean because he knows that there's no other men around to help protect all the
• 35:35
  little women's so they're all defenseless. Yep, yep. So so there's that
• 35:42
  so like and and of course that nine o'clock curfew thing isn't of itself a
• 35:46
  false allegation too, because it's the allegation that rape is a male behavior and
• 35:51
  that all men are somehow connected to it, when in fact, it's a
• 35:55
  highly abnormal behavior that a small percentage population behaves that way, whether male or
• 36:02
  female, and most people have no connection to it. Like it's psychologically where
• 36:10
  you wouldn't you can't understand the thought process and attitudes behind it because it's it's
• 36:19
  not within you right. So it's really stupid to make that argument, but
• 36:27
  women do it anyway. So yeah, how how would we how would we
• 36:32
  handle you know, the idea of exoneration and guilt and conviction and guilt and
• 36:40
  innocence and all that. How do we handle that as a society. We
• 36:45
  should be treating the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty as a human
• 36:52
  right all the time, not just in court, but in your social situations
• 36:59
  everywhere. And unfortunately we can't do that because people people get paranoid, and
• 37:08
  people like to judge, and people like to cancel. Susan Brown Miller's nineteen
• 37:15
  seventy five book Against Our Will, Men, Women in Rape claimed that just
• 37:19
  two percent of rape complaints were false. For decades thereafter, various sources seemed
• 37:23
  to confirm that figure, but Edward Greer two thousand traced their sources back to
• 37:30
  brown Miller. Brown Miller's source was a speech by Judge Lawrence Cook on sixteen
• 37:37
  January nineteen seventy four, in which he said, according to the commissioner of
• 37:40
  New York City's Rape Analysis Squad, only about two percent of all rape and
• 37:46
  related sex charges are determined to be false. Of any evidence of data reporting
• 37:52
  or other providence behind that claim, there is none, so there's nothing to
• 38:00
  back it. It's just completely unverified. God, why why does that not
• 38:07
  surprise me at all? And that's like the first thing that gets thrown at
• 38:10
  us. We start talking about the importance of due process, the right to
• 38:16
  present exculpatory evidence in court, the fact that you know, if if you've
• 38:21
  got a good lawyer, if you're an accuser and your prosecuting attorney is good
• 38:28
  at his job, he should be able to argue to a jury for what
• 38:32
  is right. So if it's right that your history with the accused doesn't imply
• 38:40
  consent, he should be able to make valid arguments that will convince a jury
• 38:46
  that any claims the defense makes in regard to that history are are fallacious.
• 38:53
  Right. That's that's how argument should be done in court. You shouldn't be
• 38:59
  able to tell the defense, no, you can't use that as an argument.
• 39:01
  No you can't submit that evidence. No you can't say that in court.
• 39:06
  Yes, you should be able to say it. The prosecutor should just
• 39:09
  have the skill and capability to say, well, here's why that's wrong.
• 39:15
  If it is wrong, and if he can't do that, maybe it's because
• 39:19
  it's not wrong. However, in the sorry tale of misinformation on this topic,
• 39:24
  it is the Crown Prosecution Service. It's UK who take the ignominious prize.
• 39:30
  They're twenty thirteen report co authored by Allison Levitt QC, carried a forward
• 39:37
  by ker Starmer, who was the then Director of Public Prosecutions Levitt, twenty
• 39:44
  thirteen. It is an example of what I call constructive mendacity, by which
• 39:49
  I mean there is no sentence which is an undisputable untruth, but the whole
• 39:53
  construction is designed a grossly mislead. And I like that instructive mendacity. Feminists
• 40:00
  do that all the time. Almost all of feminism's claims, almost all of
• 40:07
  their dogma, almost all of their rhetoric relies on constructive mendacity. The rest
• 40:20
  is just flat outlies. Starmer wrote. One such misplaced belief is that false
• 40:27
  allegations of rape and domestic violence are rife. This report presents a more accurate
• 40:32
  picture, but it does not. The report did not even address those thorny
• 40:37
  issues. Instead, it merely looked at the rate of prosecutions for false allegations.
• 40:45
  So imagine if we did that with rape, Well, rape is incredibly
• 40:50
  rare. Look, only three percent of allegations are prosecuted. I don't know
• 40:54
  if that's the percentage, but it's tiny, right, Most allegations don't come
• 41:00
  with evidence, so they don't You can't prosecute without evidence. So if we
• 41:07
  decided that most rape didn't happen, you know, most allegations are proven false
• 41:14
  because there's no prosecution, then we could say rape is exceedingly rare. And
• 41:20
  if it's exceedingly rare, is it not a problem? Like maybe we should
• 41:27
  just ignore it, like feminists say we should ignore false allegations because feminists claim
• 41:32
  they're exceedingly rare. So the report didn't actually look at the rate of false
• 41:45
  allegations, but it gave the impression that it had addressed the harder question by
• 41:47
  stating the review has allowed us to examine the suggestion that false allegations of rape
• 41:52
  and or domestic violence or rife. The report found point six two to prosecutions
• 42:00
  for rape resulted in a prosecution for false allegation, but no one ever disputed
• 42:06
  that the rate of prosecutions for false allegations was very low. It is beyond
• 42:10
  credibility that lawyers would fail to appreciate the difference between the underlying false allegation rate
• 42:16
  and the rate of prosecution for false allegation. Hence my claim of construction constructive
• 42:22
  mendacity. And again, you know, we look at the rate of rape
• 42:30
  allegations versus the rate of prosecution. If we failed to appreciate the difference and
• 42:37
  said that the prosecution rate was the rate of rape, that would piss feminists
• 42:43
  off immensely. And in fact, Mary Cass's entire research career is based on
• 42:51
  trying to eliminate that angle of looking at the crime. But ever since,
• 43:02
  people have been quoting the CPS report as it's Crown Prosecution for Americans, for
• 43:09
  whom CPS means Child Protective Services, as demonstrating the rate that the rate of
• 43:16
  false allegations is only point six two percent. So there you go, we
• 43:23
  now have feminist making an even lower claim. Evidence on the rate of false
• 43:30
  out rape allegations has been compiled by Rumney two thousand and six and by lessac
• 43:36
  at All twenty ten, and their sources are based on police reports, and
• 43:42
  so all refer to percentages of allegations made to the police. Let me just
• 43:46
  flatfootedly give you the false allegation rates from nineteen sources, which Rumney quote quotes
• 43:52
  in his table. So we have this list here right. It starts out
• 43:57
  at one point five percent, one point five percent to ten percent, which
• 44:01
  is like a range from one research paper two percent, three percent to twenty
• 44:07
  two percent, a range from another paper three percent to thirty one percent from
• 44:12
  another paper thirty eight percent. We're getting up there eight percent, nine or
• 44:19
  ten point three percent, ten point nine percent to twenty five percent from another
• 44:23
  paper eleven percent, eleven point eight percent, eighteen point two percent from one
• 44:30
  paper twenty percent, twenty two point four percent, twenty four percent, thirty
• 44:37
  eight percent, forty one percent. That's there twice forty five percent, forty
• 44:43
  seven percent, and ninety percent ninety percent. That's very interesting. Yeah,
• 44:51
  it's quite as quite a margin of error there between one point five percent and
• 44:59
  ninety percent sent Yeah, I think someone needs to go back to math class
• 45:07
  and uh or how to count all over again? Yeah, or or it
• 45:12
  would be interesting to see the paper that found ninety I wonder what their standards
• 45:16
  are and what they because it's when I look at it, I look at
• 45:22
  it this way. You take the percentage of cases, um, that are
• 45:27
  that are exonerated or that are you know, the evidence doesn't prove guilt,
• 45:35
  so where there's no conviction, right, and you apply that to the number
• 45:40
  of cases that are never tried, that just like that undecided middle um.
• 45:47
  When feminists make their claims that most rape isn't even prosecuted and most rapists are
• 45:53
  never convicted, they take the bulk of um statistics from certain surveys, so
• 46:01
  allegations that were never made to police, allegations that were only listed in a
• 46:07
  survey, and I some of them use the Crime Victim Survey, some of
• 46:14
  them use the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey. The numbers are going
• 46:19
  to differ there too, right. But when they look at that, they
• 46:27
  presume all of the allegations that are not conclusively proved false to be true allegations.
• 46:35
  And then they take the percentage of those overall allegations and say, well,
• 46:40
  only this percentage of rapists ever gets convicted. But they don't know that
• 46:45
  because they don't know that the percentage of cases that are tried and not convicted
• 46:54
  found not guilty. Right for whatever reason, that that doesn't all to apply
• 47:00
  to that bulk that undecided. Middle of cases that are unknown, cases that
• 47:05
  were never reported to police, cases that were reported but never brought to trial,
• 47:08
  and so on, how what percentage of those cases is a false allegation?
• 47:14
  What percentage of those cases could be proved false if if the case was
• 47:21
  investigated, And we don't know because there aren't repercussions when that happens, right,
• 47:27
  And we also don't know how many people lied on those on those self
• 47:32
  reports. So in short, in a nutshell, let's say you had a
• 47:40
  bowl of and ms. Yeah, and you were told that if you eat
• 47:47
  any of these given M and ms, the chance of the chance of being
• 47:52
  poisonous and you're dying from the poison is between one point five. And you'd
• 47:57
  be like, who are you? Why did I ask you this? You've
• 48:01
  given me like almost literally no helpful information. Please piss off and take your
• 48:08
  eminem's with you, Like I'm gonna go get some better chocolate. Oh my
• 48:15
  gosh. Yeah. Albert laa retro gave us ten dollars Canadian and said,
• 48:20
  doctor randomercam, they'd have something passes York passes, so Chippendales will still be
• 48:29
  open um and uh probably work passes. Work passes and they can assault the
• 48:35
  male strippers. Unfortunately, there'll be nobody to buy drinks on ladies night.
• 48:43
  So yeah they yeah, I point taking Yeah, why is ladies not a
• 48:49
  thing? Is a subject for a whole other show. Yeah, um and
• 48:52
  and and the answer is women are bait. Um waiten, women are bait.
• 49:00
  There we go, so he goes on. You take my point.
• 49:04
  Anywhere between one point five percent and ninety percent is not very helpful. The
• 49:07
  main reason for the huge spread is the criterion used to define false. Broadly,
• 49:13
  there are two A categorize an allegation as false only if a thorough investigation
• 49:20
  based on evidence has established that no crime was committed or attempted, or be
• 49:24
  a range of less certain criteria, including the police recording the allegation as a
• 49:30
  no crime but without clear evidence behind that decision. And you know, in
• 49:37
  my view, it's really difficult to nail this down because I'm sure feminists will
• 49:45
  have arguments as to why it must require in order to label an allegation false,
• 49:53
  evidence that it is false must be required. In other words, evidence
• 49:58
  of innocence as opposed to a lack of evidence of guilt. And if we're
• 50:04
  going to solve that there should be three categories. There should be the category
• 50:12
  of proven guilty, the category of unproven allegations that are not proven false or
• 50:22
  true, and the category of proven false. And I think the biggest category
• 50:28
  is on unproven allegations. And there's many reasons why an allegation might fall into
• 50:34
  that category. For instance, say before DNA testing, you had Jenny has
• 50:43
  a party, right, Jenny's party is while Jenny gets drunk, Jenny passes
• 50:47
  out on the couch right next to her friend Edward, who is just sitting
• 50:53
  there on the couch with his beard, doing nothing, you know, just
• 50:55
  enjoying the party, maybe talking to somebody. But he's there and she knows
• 51:00
  he's there. And sometime after Jenny passes out, Edward leaves. You know,
• 51:07
  he's like, maybe he doesn't feel good, you know, drank too
• 51:08
  much beer, goes home all right. Jenny wakes up the next morning with
• 51:15
  a sticky substance all over herself and her clothes are disheveled. She goes in
• 51:20
  for a rape kit, files a police report. She remembers that Edward was
• 51:25
  sitting next to her on the couch, and she tells the police his name,
• 51:30
  not Edward raped me, but Edward was right there. He's the only
• 51:36
  guy I know that was on that couch with me that night. Right Now,
• 51:40
  Jenny didn't lie about anything. She didn't falselee state anything. She wasn't
• 51:49
  malicious, all right, But let's say the rape kit comes back. You
• 51:52
  know that was somebody's peanot colatta. Jenny was not sexually assaulted at all,
• 52:00
  or didn't do anything wrong. Right, that's a proven false allegation, But
• 52:05
  it's not a proven lie. She didn't mean to falsely accused Edwards. She
• 52:09
  wasn't malicious from Edward's perspective, that's false allegation, right. You know,
• 52:16
  before DNA testing, maybe they don't they don't have that. They just have
• 52:21
  this substance. Maybe they can't prove what it is. Maybe they can't prove
• 52:24
  that it's bodily fluid. Maybe it's somebody else's bodily fluid. Edward needs some
• 52:30
  sort of evidence to prove that he did nothing, and you know, maybe
• 52:36
  they don't convict him, maybe they don't acquit him for the rest of his
• 52:43
  life. Edwards suspected to be a rapist, and Jenny's suspected to be a
• 52:46
  rape victim for the rest of hers right, and maybe she was, maybe
• 52:52
  she wasn't. Those are areas where you can't necessarily prove somebody's innocence, you
• 52:59
  can't necessarily prove somebody's guilt, and it might not even be malicious. One
• 53:07
  of the bits of research that had a twenty five percent exoneration rate. I
• 53:14
  believe this was nineteen eighty four the FBI did DNA testing. It might have
• 53:21
  been later, and like it had to be later, because I don't think
• 53:23
  there was DNA testing in nineteen eighty four. But there's a piece of research
• 53:29
  from the FBI where they they they did DNA testing on a bunch of cases
• 53:32
  where the convicts had declared their innocence and DNA testing was not available during their
• 53:43
  hearings, during their their investigations, and twenty five percent of them were exonerated
• 53:49
  by the DNA testing. And there was a lot of discussion about this at
• 53:53
  the time that it was published. You know, this doesn't necessarily mean they
• 54:00
  were falsely accused. Well, yes, it does. From their perspective,
• 54:04
  they were falsely accused. What it doesn't mean is that the accuser knew that
• 54:10
  they were pointing the finger at the wrong guy. Sometimes you have instances where
• 54:17
  the victim is passed out. Sometimes you have instances where the victim is panicked
• 54:22
  and can't remember anything. Sometimes you have instances where the victim was too young
• 54:29
  to give a good identification, or was blindfolded, or had other reasons why
• 54:34
  they could not identify the perpetrator. And sometimes they mistake one person for another,
• 54:40
  especially in a lineup, especially if it was a stranger. So there's
• 54:47
  that, and unfortunately we have this panic over this particular type of crime that
• 54:58
  is way beyond the scope of the damage that the crime does. So,
• 55:04
  as Gen Bottle pointed out, we have a standard in our society, better
• 55:08
  hang the wrong man than no man, and unfortunately that standard does get applied
• 55:14
  here where it really should not. The advantage of criterion A that being categorizing
• 55:22
  an allegation is false only if a thorough investigation based on evidence has established that
• 55:27
  no crime was committed or attempted, is that it would establish a firm lower
• 55:31
  bound to the rate of false allegations, so we know that at least that
• 55:37
  many allegations are false. The disadvantage is that the lower bound may be far
• 55:42
  smaller than the true rate, because the police do not usually concentrate on performing
• 55:46
  a thorough investigation to prove that a crime did not occur. They would,
• 55:52
  though if it became a prosecutable offense to knowingly and willfully falsely accused someone,
• 56:02
  which it should be. It's in the United States, at least, it
• 56:07
  is against the law to file a false police report, to lie to the
• 56:10
  police during an investigation, to to file a false complaint on which a false
• 56:20
  charge will be based, and to perjure yourself in court. So these are
• 56:23
  things that are offenses that normally are prosecutable. If I say, I if
• 56:30
  I claim to have had jewelry that was worth money, which I don't.
• 56:34
  I don't even wear jewelry, right, so that's not gonna happen. But
• 56:37
  if I claim I had a diamond necklace, and I claim that my diamond
• 56:42
  necklace was in a location in my apartment, and you know, I claim
• 56:49
  that somebody broke into my apartment and stole it, and I claim on my
• 56:52
  insurance that I want reimbursed for that, and it turns out to be provable
• 57:00
  that I never had a diamond necklace, or that I still have the diamond
• 57:06
  necklace I claim was stolen, that's that's considered fraud. And if I have
• 57:10
  committed those crimes in the process of trying to defraud my insurance company. I
• 57:15
  can be prosecuted for those crimes if I lie to the police, you know,
• 57:19
  say, if somebody stole my necklace, I can be prosecuted for telling
• 57:22
  the police that somebody stole a necklace that I still have or that I never
• 57:27
  had. Right, I can be prosecuted for putting it on paper, filing
• 57:30
  a false complaint about the necklace. And I can be prosecuted if I go
• 57:35
  to court and testify that this happened when it didn't, and that's correct,
• 57:40
  that's right and good because the prosecutor is acting. He's not acting on my
• 57:46
  behalf when he goes to court. He's acting on the behalf of the public
• 57:52
  against criminals who would, you know, try to try to steal stuff.
• 57:57
  They basically against criminals that would try to commit a crime against the public.
• 58:01
  So it's intended to be a deterrent right. So my neighbor has the right
• 58:07
  to not pay taxes for the prosecuting attorney to then prosecute someone falsely for stealing
• 58:15
  a necklace that I never had or still have. My neighbor has the right
• 58:20
  to know that his tax dollars are not going to be abused in that manner,
• 58:23
  and he also has the right to know that I'm not going to say
• 58:27
  he stole my necklace when he didn't, and so that's those rights are protected
• 58:34
  by the outlawing of lying to the police like that. But if I accuse
• 58:40
  my neighbor of breaking into my apartment sexually assaulting me, and I lie about
• 58:44
  all that, then local women's advoc advocacy groups will strong arm the local police
• 58:53
  department and the local prosecutor into shutting up about it and not doing anything about
• 59:00
  any process crimes that I commit in the course of lying about my neighbor and
• 59:05
  trying to get him convicted of a sex crime he didn't commit because I'm a
• 59:14
  woman, And that works because our society has a gynocentric attitude that has gone
• 59:22
  well beyond its original original standard like we have. There's actually a big argument
• 59:35
  going on about this, I think, on Twitter, unless it's I don't
• 59:37
  know. I'm not really doing anything on Twitter in the last few weeks,
• 59:40
  so I don't know. Maybe it petered out, but it was pretty heated
• 59:45
  the last time I was actually able to be on I don't think that our
• 59:49
  gynocentric attitude in society, like straight up centrism, where it's favoring the woman
• 59:55
  just because she's female. I don't think that's an instinct, and I don't
• 1:00:00
  think it's natural. I think it stems from our protection of the golden uterus.
• 1:00:07
  To quote doctor Terra Pomatier, we prioritize women because we prioritize women's reproductive
• 1:00:16
  capacity and women's nurturing motherhood. And as a result of that, women have
• 1:00:23
  been able to take advantage of that attitude, which is really more of a
• 1:00:28
  gene centrism. We're protecting the next generation. Women have been able to take
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  advantage of that attitude and parlay that into because I'm a woman, you have
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  to treat me better. Because I'm a woman, you have to believe me.
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  Because I'm a woman, you have to give up your rights for my
• 1:00:44
  safety net. And I don't think that's natural. Protecting children is natural,
• 1:00:50
  and prioritizing children's welfare is natural, and it isn't unnatural for that to have
• 1:00:57
  the side effect of benefits to women. But it is unnatural for when children
• 1:01:05
  are taken out of the equation those benefits to continue as if women are just
• 1:01:12
  special because they're women. And that's where we at. Where we're at now
• 1:01:17
  with that, I think that is um uh, that that is creating a
• 1:01:23
  situation of people being willing to accept that we have to believe women because they're
• 1:01:32
  women, and that we have to accept throwing men's due process rights under the
• 1:01:37
  bus because a woman somewhere might get hurt if we don't. It's like,
• 1:01:45
  um, the instinct to preserve your life is an instinct. It's a natural
• 1:01:55
  occurrence. You have to do that or you know you're you. If you
• 1:02:00
  don't have a sense of self preservation, you die. You don't preserve yourself,
• 1:02:06
  you don't prevent yourself from taking risks. Right. And as part of
• 1:02:12
  that, the instinct to consume nutrition is natural, and I would I would
• 1:02:19
  call that a genetic thing. You die without having an instinctive desire to eat.
• 1:02:27
  But what you choose to eat and how you choose to eat it,
• 1:02:30
  and how you play in your diet and all that that is cultural. And
• 1:02:37
  there are some things that are deeply ingrained in our culture. Some people like
• 1:02:42
  pun intended because for instance, some people just don't feel like they've been fed
• 1:02:45
  properly if they don't have bread with every meal. Yeah, you know,
• 1:02:50
  like something something is wrong if you don't have bread with every meal, and
• 1:02:55
  that that goes back through culture, right, some people can't stand certain foods
• 1:03:02
  that other people it's normal for them to eat. That's cultural. I would
• 1:03:07
  say gene centrism or child centrism is a natural instinct, but pure gnocentrism for
• 1:03:17
  its own sake is cultural. It's a cultural outcropping of a natural instinct,
• 1:03:24
  and we can overcome it and overcome this vulnerability to feminism's constructive mendacity on this
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  point, so he goes on. The veracity of the estimates resulting from Criteria
• 1:03:43
  B will depend on the exact procedure. It might give an accurate estimate or
• 1:03:47
  it might sometimes be a serious overestimate or underestimate. Some of Rumney's sources claimed
• 1:03:53
  that the police had used a no crime criterion, which required the complainant to
• 1:03:59
  a admitted there was no crime, but doubt was expressed that the police had
• 1:04:02
  truly a pride applied this criterion consistently. There's also suspicion in many cases the
• 1:04:11
  police may have been rather too ready to no crime reports in the worst cases,
• 1:04:15
  and noting that sources go back as far as the nineteen seventies, there
• 1:04:18
  reasons for assigning as a no crime might have been disconcerting, disconcertingly anti deluvian,
• 1:04:28
  as in no sign of a struggle, etc. And that's that's that's
• 1:04:32
  the other thing. Some of this research that's older gets thrown out by feminists
• 1:04:39
  because they have worked very hard to change standards in regard to rape. When
• 1:04:47
  when gen X were kids and movies like The Accused came out and stuff like
• 1:04:54
  that, the standard was very different. Men's rhea was recognized as important guilty
• 1:05:03
  mind, the idea that the intention of the accused mattered all right. That
• 1:05:11
  that changed when feminists went changed our standard for prosecution from the accused being accused
• 1:05:23
  of trying to contravene the accuser's right or ability to refuse sexual content or contact,
• 1:05:34
  to the accused failing to obtain consent. One is the earlier would be
• 1:05:42
  the accused being accused of of deliberately overriding the will like against our will,
• 1:05:50
  as as Susan Brown Miller's title says, of the victim of the accused victim
• 1:05:56
  the alleged victim right, but the latter can be an accident the accused fails
• 1:06:01
  to obtain consent can be a thing that happens in the heat of the moment,
• 1:06:09
  when both parties appear to be participating. If the accused isn't savvy to
• 1:06:19
  the subtle signs that some women make of being uncomfortable, unhappy, not wanting
• 1:06:26
  to do something, but still participating in it, that's the feminist allegation.
• 1:06:30
  So now you have the ability to treat someone like a monster after accusing them
• 1:06:36
  of accidentally raping someone, and under standards that are used by the court system,
• 1:06:46
  this gets treated as valid. So now allegations are treated as true if
• 1:06:56
  the accused took active participation in a sex act as a sign of consent and
• 1:07:03
  didn't receive verbal consent, and the accuser can say, well, yes,
• 1:07:10
  but I was intimidated or I was under his thrall, which which we've decided
• 1:07:17
  hangs down in a little protective sack from the mind. So so there you
• 1:07:28
  go. Um. But but yeah, so the criteria, it's it's difficult
• 1:07:33
  with the latter criteria because that's broad enough that it can it can label allegations
• 1:07:41
  true that are actually really questionable at best, and um, and it can
• 1:07:46
  also label allegations false that should have been should have resulted in a conviction.
• 1:07:55
  Uh, you know, they're The whole claim of um, how she dressed
• 1:08:00
  is one that feminists will throw out in regard to that it's much smaller thing
• 1:08:04
  than they actually make it out to be. But most of the time,
• 1:08:10
  when the police want to know what you were wearing, it's because they want
• 1:08:13
  to search your clothes and see if they can find evidence like hair, bodily
• 1:08:17
  fluids and stuff like that that might help them convict the accused. But feminists
• 1:08:24
  treat it like, well, if you were wearing something sexy, they're going
• 1:08:27
  to assume that you wanted the assault. Lessac I think, I don't know
• 1:08:33
  if I'm pronouncing his name right, might be Lissac at all concentrated upon a
• 1:08:39
  criteria upon criterion A and found a false rate of sexual assault on this basis
• 1:08:44
  to be five point nine percent. They also found seven other sources whose data
• 1:08:48
  could be analyzed in this way and gave these results two point one percent,
• 1:08:55
  two point five percent, three percent, six point eight percent, eight point
• 1:08:59
  three percent, ten point three percent, and ten point nine percent. They
• 1:09:03
  concluded that the prevalence of false allegations is between two and ten percent, but
• 1:09:10
  this is incorrect and the references of the publication, we're a miss in letting
• 1:09:14
  that conclusion go through. These figures all are all lower bounds. If they
• 1:09:19
  were all applicable to the same population, an issue I have avoided discussing,
• 1:09:25
  then ten point nine percent would be the final lower bound, which still might
• 1:09:30
  be far lower than the correct value. So again like feminists and less act.
• 1:09:41
  By the way, as the guy who did the research that on which
• 1:09:47
  the claim of an epidemic of serial rape on university campuses was was made,
• 1:09:57
  like, he claimed that UM that the majority of rapists or serial rapists and
• 1:10:04
  the university campuses were rife with it. But is his actual sample of UM
• 1:10:13
  survey respondents were all well older or mostly well older than university age. There
• 1:10:18
  were just people. They were just men who were part of the general population
• 1:10:25
  outside of university campuses who had been UM I think, arrested for rape or
• 1:10:32
  arrested for sexual misconduct. And what it found actually was that the majority of
• 1:10:45
  those that were guilty, that admitted guilt UM like, how about about ninety
• 1:10:54
  I think it was ninety four percent of those that admitted guilt were single instance
• 1:10:58
  perpetrators. In of the rest like six percent committed most of the rapes,
• 1:11:08
  like over over half of the of the rapes that they admitted to could committing.
• 1:11:13
  And of that six percent, they also admitted to being violent in other
• 1:11:19
  ways, criminally violent in other ways, committing robberies, burglaries and things like
• 1:11:24
  that. So if there was anything to be taken from that research, it
• 1:11:30
  is that a among um sexual violence perpetrators, the majority of sexual violence is
• 1:11:38
  perpetrated by a minority of that population, and even smaller minority of the general
• 1:11:44
  population. And that tiny minority that's, you know, again, a violent
• 1:11:54
  minority that has issues. They're not normal thinking men and go out and you
• 1:12:01
  have a normal job and support their families and do normal things with their lives.
• 1:12:06
  There their men with very serious issues of criminal violence, and probably um
• 1:12:15
  need psychological treatment. Right, But that's not what he released. That's not
• 1:12:23
  the conclusion he released. So his UM, his researches, he does this.
• 1:12:29
  This seems to be a habitual thing, like the UM citing the lower
• 1:12:34
  number and the top number as the full range, the full bounds of false
• 1:12:42
  allegations, when in fact the top number is actually the lower bound. Like
• 1:12:46
  that's not out of the realm of his normal behavior. A Ministry of Justice
• 1:12:54
  report MJ that would be UM in the UK MJ twenty two and states that
• 1:13:00
  various studies have estimated that eight to eleven percent of rape allegations in England and
• 1:13:04
  Wales are false, but it notes that a lack of could lack of a
• 1:13:10
  consistent definition of what constitutes a false rape allegation, as well as variations in
• 1:13:15
  recording practices by a police and other others in the CJS, make accurate assessment
• 1:13:19
  of the true extent of such allegations very difficult. So again, they have
• 1:13:26
  this number that they've tossed out and it goes as high as eleven percent now
• 1:13:32
  as as the lower bound. So anything less than eleven is suspect. And
• 1:13:41
  even they say, you know, this could be innaccurate, it could be
• 1:13:44
  more to drive home, go on, and I'm just gonna say that,
• 1:13:49
  I mean, yeah, and hovering around ten percent, it still it just
• 1:13:55
  doesn't feel right, you know, I mean, I understand that they're saying
• 1:13:58
  that this is the lower bound owned, but god, it just it feels
• 1:14:03
  wrong. It feels like it should be more than that. But and well,
• 1:14:09
  and with it be in the lower bound, um, you know it
• 1:14:15
  behooves us to remember where some of the upper bounds are. And I actually
• 1:14:20
  have an infographic which I don't like calling it a meme because it's not it's
• 1:14:30
  not something that people are aware enough of. It's not a commonly thought of
• 1:14:34
  enough thing and to be a meme. But feminists like to call it a
• 1:14:39
  meme as a means of discrediting it. But I did the math after reading
• 1:14:46
  an article in the Hindi in regard to um investigation into a series of allegations
• 1:14:56
  made in Delhi, and like, it was months worth of allegations that they
• 1:15:00
  looked at and they they they found the lower bound of false allegation. They're
• 1:15:06
  the lower bound of the rate of false allegations from that research was sixty five
• 1:15:15
  percent. That's the lower bound. The upper bound was eighty five percent.
• 1:15:24
  So for that time period in Delhi, the false allegation rate was somewhere between
• 1:15:31
  sixty five percent and eighty five percent. And that like, so there's there's
• 1:15:40
  different things that can affect that rate in Delhi. Part of the reason that
• 1:15:44
  was so high was because if a couple was in love and decided to get
• 1:15:53
  married against the wishes of their parents, the parents of the wife might accuse
• 1:16:00
  the husband of kidnapping and raping their daughter and the police would have to sort
• 1:16:05
  that out, So that's a false allegation. Also, if a couple had
• 1:16:13
  sex and the woman expected to get married and the guy decides I'm not going
• 1:16:18
  to be your husband, We're not going to get married, she would consider
• 1:16:23
  that breach of promise to marry and she would go and tell the police that
• 1:16:28
  he had raped her and they had to sort that out. So those two
• 1:16:30
  things contributed to that. Where Like in the United States, I don't think
• 1:16:36
  there's very many women who would follow breach of promise to marry with a rape
• 1:16:43
  allegation that they would expect the police to take seriously. He promised to marry
• 1:16:48
  me, so I had sex with him and then he didn't. It was
• 1:16:50
  a lie. That's rape, you know, Like women in the United States
• 1:16:55
  know that the cops don't consider that to be rape. And unless the couple
• 1:17:00
  is underage, I don't think you're gonna see or at least the girl is
• 1:17:04
  under age. I don't think you're gonna see very many parents making the allegation
• 1:17:10
  that their daughter who eloped against their will has been kidnapped and that the marital
• 1:17:15
  sex is rape and then find out that from the police that no, that
• 1:17:20
  doesn't count as the crime of rape. But even even with that, their
• 1:17:30
  their allegation rate a minimum of sixty five percent pretty darn't high. Yeah,
• 1:17:36
  So Lithek classified the data into false report based on criterion A, did not
• 1:17:45
  proceed and did proceed insufficient information. Out of one hundred and thirty six cases,
• 1:17:53
  there were eight, sixty one, forty eight, and nineteen in these
• 1:17:57
  categories, respectively, so were labeled a false report based on criterion A,
• 1:18:04
  meaning they were proven false. Sixty one did not proceed, forty eight did
• 1:18:11
  proceed, and nineteen head insufficient information. Any of the one hundred and twenty
• 1:18:16
  eight cases which did not meet criterion A might have been a false allegation but
• 1:18:21
  just wasn't proved to be suspicion alights, particularly on the sixty one cases,
• 1:18:26
  forty five percent classified as did not proceed quote. This classification was applied if
• 1:18:33
  the report of a sexual assault did not result in a referral for prosecution or
• 1:18:39
  disciplinary action because of insufficient evidence, or because the victim withdrew from the process
• 1:18:46
  or was unable to identify the perpetrator or because the victim mislabeled the incident,
• 1:18:54
  for example, gave a truthful account of the incident, but the incident did
• 1:18:57
  not meet the legal elements of the crime a sexual assault. So um.
• 1:19:04
  I don't know about the UK, but in the US there are women who
• 1:19:14
  think that if a guy lies to them to get um, get them to
• 1:19:19
  be more receptive, you know, pretends to have money he doesn't have.
• 1:19:26
  That's a big one. Or pretends to be single when he's not, things
• 1:19:30
  like that, and and then they have sex with him and it turns out,
• 1:19:34
  um, he's not single or he actually is broke. That that that
• 1:19:40
  he's used deception and that makes it rape and that's not rape. Um.
• 1:19:45
  And there are some girls who think if they have a beer, they can't
• 1:19:49
  consent and so they think that's rape. Um. You actually have to be
• 1:19:56
  too drunk to appraise your actions for it to meet the standard, the legal
• 1:20:00
  standard in most places in the United States. So having one beer unless you
• 1:20:03
  like, unless you're you know, four foot eleven and weigh eighty pounds,
• 1:20:10
  soaking wet and have the metabolism from hell, and you get drunk on one
• 1:20:15
  beer, like falling down drunk on one beer. It doesn't eliminate your ability
• 1:20:20
  to consent. Yeah, they're being taught that in college now. By the
• 1:20:26
  way, when they take consent classes in college, you know, any alcohol
• 1:20:30
  at all, the presence of any alcohol, you should assume the other person
• 1:20:32
  can't consent. That's just insane. So I don't know. You probably know
• 1:20:39
  because you know things like this. But there's a medical condition where everything you
• 1:20:45
  eat turns into alcohol in your system. Yeah. I don't know the name
• 1:20:50
  of the condition, but I do know of its existence. And people can
• 1:20:55
  go a pretty good portion of their lives and not realize they have that condition,
• 1:21:01
  and that's why they're constantly sleepy and feel you know. Or they can
• 1:21:06
  develop that condition where they don't have it during their childhood and they don't have
• 1:21:11
  it during most of their adulthood, but then all of a sudden, they're
• 1:21:15
  having this problem, and they developed tolerant tolerance, like anyone developed tolerance any
• 1:21:21
  other drug, especially if it's a drug that forms in your in your digestive
• 1:21:28
  system every time you ingest carbohydrates, and and so they just live their whole
• 1:21:35
  lives drunk. They get used to being drunk, so they don't know they're
• 1:21:41
  drunk until they get randomly pulled over and they and they breathe one point two
• 1:21:46
  or whatever it is on the breathalyzer, and then some huge, big,
• 1:21:51
  big old investigations. Again, this is a very very rare case. Yeah,
• 1:21:58
  it is a very rare. Condition is extremely uncommon, and it's what
• 1:22:04
  happens if two students fuck each other. Unfantabel is that. Who's responsible for
• 1:22:11
  that is the fucking Minnesota police. It's the one that doesn't first. Yeah,
• 1:22:16
  Well, the really rough thing is you know that that can that kind
• 1:22:23
  of condition. You wouldn't know you you had it because it's your normal,
• 1:22:27
  right, You wouldn't know you had it. Um, you can get busted
• 1:22:30
  for drunk driving for it. I mean you could also falsely accuse someone.
• 1:22:34
  Um. The other thing is that would be awful for your liver. Like,
• 1:22:41
  imagine you're liver to have to constantly be processing alcohol your whole life be
• 1:22:45
  like having, you know, being constantly tipsy. Imagine that. Of course,
• 1:22:54
  it's probably not that much worse than people who are on prescription on steroidal
• 1:23:00
  anti inflammatory drugs. In fact, those are harder on your liver than alcohol,
• 1:23:05
  and they they cause serious problems. They're also hard on your kidneys,
• 1:23:10
  so in six to one half doesn't the other. But any case, yeah,
• 1:23:15
  there's a lot of factors that can make it illegitimate to claim that a
• 1:23:24
  woman just couldn't consent, but a man is responsible. And you know,
• 1:23:28
  I would, I would go back to UM and I partly I go back
• 1:23:31
  to this case because when he came home, he came home to the Dayton
• 1:23:35
  metro area and there was an armed protest here. And that was the Brock
• 1:23:42
  Turner case where both Turner and the accuser were at the same level of intoxication
• 1:23:57
  in terms of their ability to appraise their actions. And when the case gets
• 1:24:03
  discussed, it gets discussed like this guy just grabbed this chick and ravaged her
• 1:24:09
  and people are defending him for it. They were walking together back to his
• 1:24:15
  dorm room from a party. And by the way, this this is not
• 1:24:20
  a naive little college co ed that you know, was in her first year
• 1:24:26
  or anything. This is a girl who was older than the college students.
• 1:24:30
  Turner was nineteen, I think she was like twenty two. So they were
• 1:24:34
  on their way back to his room, presumably to study yeah biology, obviously,
• 1:24:44
  actually check out the etchings. Yes, yes, the etchings. UM
• 1:24:47
  the definitely not for any sexually illicit purposes, because nobody does that goes from
• 1:24:56
  a party back to a guy's dorm room to you know, do the horizontal
• 1:25:00
  pop or anything like that's abnormal. College students never do that, right,
• 1:25:05
  And they both started making out in this alley where they were caught, and
• 1:25:12
  they fell down because they were drunk. They were both falling down drunk,
• 1:25:18
  and he was so drunk that he didn't notice that in the middle of continuing
• 1:25:25
  the act, she passed out. That was why he got convicted, and
• 1:25:31
  he didn't get convicted of rape. He got convicted of a sexual assault crime
• 1:25:36
  that was a lesser crime than rape. And then judge agreed with him that
• 1:25:42
  he believed he had consent, that he had obtained verbal consent, and that's
• 1:25:47
  why his sentence was only three months or six months, and he got out
• 1:25:51
  in three months because he exhibited exemplary behavior as a prisoner, which is the
• 1:26:00
  whole point of exemplary behavior as a prisoner that you get rewarded by being let
• 1:26:06
  out early. So when people get upset about this case, and they got
• 1:26:14
  so upset that they showed up in a residential neighborhood in the Dayton Metro area
• 1:26:19
  with firearms powerful enough to shoot through brick and mortar, and a neighborhood where
• 1:26:26
  there were old people and children who had absolutely nothing to do with the case
• 1:26:30
  and patrolled in front of this guy's house until police made them leave. That
• 1:26:39
  that and they they got a judge unseated, they got him removed from his
• 1:26:44
  from his seat because they were mad that this this guy in this gray situation
• 1:26:50
  wasn't treated like the stereotypical scary creep in a dark alley jump women because he's
• 1:27:00
  evil. That's that's that's the situation. So it's important to look at this
• 1:27:11
  criteria. We're looking at a difference here in is there not enough evidence?
• 1:27:17
  Is the evidence in favor of the accused? Um did the accuser change her
• 1:27:26
  mind about the accusation? All of these things contribute to you know, are
• 1:27:30
  we are we looking at a false allegation. Are we looking at an allegation
• 1:27:33
  that was maybe gray? Maybe uh, this the the situation can't really be
• 1:27:42
  determined. Or are we looking at a black and white situation where yes,
• 1:27:45
  there was definitely a sex crime committed right This classification was applied if the report
• 1:27:55
  of sexual assault did not result in a referral for prosecution. UM, So
• 1:28:03
  that forty five percent was just no prosecution or disciplinary action because of insufficient insufficient
• 1:28:12
  evidence, or because the victim withdrew from the process, wasn't able to identify
• 1:28:15
  the perpetrator, because the victim mislabeled the incident, said it was rape when
• 1:28:20
  it wasn't rape, and so on a priori any of the forty five percent
• 1:28:28
  of the cases in this category might be a false allegation. Right. Clearly
• 1:28:33
  one cannot conclude otherwise. When this categorization included cases where there was insufficient evidence
• 1:28:42
  or the victim withdrew there will this will be quite typical of studies based on
• 1:28:47
  criterion A. We are throwing I'd like to thank him for putting the word
• 1:28:54
  victim in scare quotes. Yeah, yeah, that's something else. That's that's
• 1:28:59
  we We see the word victim thrown around in feminist research, like anybody who
• 1:29:06
  makes an allegation must be a victim. H Right, So the quote victim
• 1:29:15
  that made the allegation in seven years in hell case, Um, was allegedly
• 1:29:23
  raped by seven years in hell guy from across town while he was in line
• 1:29:29
  at a pharmacy. He's very magical he's got, you know, like the
• 1:29:34
  magic bullet, but it's a dick. It goes around corners and it's invisible
• 1:29:42
  until it gets to the location where it's supposed to commit the crime. Right.
• 1:29:45
  Um, she what else did she do? She she was waved at
• 1:29:50
  menacingly, menacingly, like you you waved menacingly with a b. We never
• 1:30:01
  did find that out. She was waived at menacingly at a bar in Dayton
• 1:30:09
  by the seven years in Hell guy while he was at McDonald's and she was
• 1:30:18
  in I think Arizona. So he also has a magic hand. And uh,
• 1:30:28
  you know she Um, she was assaulted at a bus stop by seven
• 1:30:35
  years in Hell guy. She was assaulted at a bus stop by seven years
• 1:30:41
  in Hell guy and kicked him in the balls three times, after which he
• 1:30:47
  ran away at top speed because normal guys can do that after getting kicked in
• 1:30:51
  the balls three times while he was on his couch at home, drugged out
• 1:30:57
  of his mind recovering from hernius injury. Oh my god. Yeah, Like
• 1:31:05
  those false allegations can be blatant and obvious like that, and it's very useful
• 1:31:12
  for the accused when they are the best one out of the three had had
• 1:31:16
  to be that one, because everybody hasn't everybody kicked a guy in the balls
• 1:31:20
  three times hard and then watched him run immediately afterward. And in every movie
• 1:31:29
  I've ever watched, yes, yes, they get up and run, you
• 1:31:36
  know, like false accusers are stupid people, very very often, like they
• 1:31:42
  really don't think their stories out very well, you know. So we are
• 1:31:47
  thrown back on the route fact that for the large bulk of cases, we
• 1:31:51
  do not know if the allegation was false or not. But there's another approach
• 1:31:57
  to the question. I have not attempted to discuss how the fall allegation rate
• 1:32:00
  might be might depend on population, country, demographic, you know, though
• 1:32:08
  the pursuit of a single global figure is obviously a fool's Errand however, there
• 1:32:13
  is another issue. The false allegation rate may not be static, but might
• 1:32:17
  have varied substantially in the UK, at least I suspect it has. Here,
• 1:32:23
  I bring up to date an argument presented in Collins twenty nineteen, and
• 1:32:28
  then critique it myself and invite others to do so too. There are three
• 1:32:33
  numerical ingredients to the arguments as follows. One I the estimate of the true
• 1:32:42
  number of women victims of rape on the Crime Survey for England and Wales CRSW,
• 1:32:47
  which is like the Crime Victims Survey in the United States for which I
• 1:32:53
  use CSW twenty twenty The CSW reported percentage of women victims of rape who report
• 1:33:00
  to police CSW twenty twenty one and the number of police report recorded crimes of
• 1:33:06
  rape of women Crime Data twenty twenty two. So basically, the one is
• 1:33:15
  a survey that is done in which people answer questions that are based on the
• 1:33:21
  literal crime definitions and descriptions, and like if if it's the same, and
• 1:33:29
  I'm pretty sure it is the same as the Crime Victims Survey that the Justice
• 1:33:35
  Department does. They do it in a similar manner to the NISVS, but
• 1:33:42
  instead of using Mary causes deceptive question method, they if they ask about the
• 1:33:49
  crime of rape, they either ask using the label rape or they ask using
• 1:33:57
  the description that meets the criteria for the crime of rape, not um,
• 1:34:03
  did you ever have sex with a man because he gave you alcohol, which
• 1:34:11
  is like what Mary Coss asks and what an i SCS is based on.
• 1:34:17
  That would mean that every woman in a nightclub has gotten raped. The actual
• 1:34:21
  the actual question is, have you ever had sex when you didn't want to
• 1:34:25
  because a man gave you alcohol? And that was the original way it was
• 1:34:29
  written. And you know, um, I have known people who would give
• 1:34:35
  someone a blowjob to get a beer, So like, that's that's prostitution,
• 1:34:42
  it's not rape. That's an interesting question. Have you have you ever drunk
• 1:34:46
  alcohol when you didn't want to? And the answer would be a really fuzzy
• 1:34:51
  sort of great area yeah, like, um, I yes, I guess
• 1:34:57
  because what do you mean by one? Sometimes I drink because I feel like
• 1:35:01
  I need to? Yeah, And how how are you're supposed to differentiate that
• 1:35:06
  too? To a lawyer along a church and want? Want really shouldn't be
• 1:35:14
  well should it be a legal term? It shouldn't. There shouldn't be so
• 1:35:17
  much hanging right, just such a subjective term like consent is the kind of
• 1:35:26
  term we use for this. Want is is just this fluffy bullshit because you
• 1:35:30
  don't know, nobody knows what they want? Really, Yeah, this is
• 1:35:34
  this is why we have more specific terms like consent. You know, I
• 1:35:41
  can actually say I have had alcohol when it I didn't drink it because I
• 1:35:45
  wanted it. Um, if you have a chest infection and you don't want
• 1:35:53
  to drug yourself with h niquel. One of the things that can sue was
• 1:36:00
  a cough and help you sleep is a hot toddy. But I've I've consumed
• 1:36:06
  those when I've been so tired that I just wanted to lay down and go
• 1:36:10
  to sleep. But I knew if I didn't drink something I would I would
• 1:36:15
  wake up an hour later coughing my ass off and I wouldn't get any sleep.
• 1:36:19
  So so I've I've I've drink alcohol when I didn't want to actually,
• 1:36:27
  and I'm sure there have been people that have had sex on impulse where it
• 1:36:30
  was like, I've just got this itch, I've got a scratch, I'm
• 1:36:33
  going to find my friend with benefits and and just take it out. And
• 1:36:40
  of course, if you ask that person, did you ever have sex when
• 1:36:44
  you didn't want to, they might be like, well, you know,
• 1:36:46
  I had sex just to have sex. It wasn't really a desire. They
• 1:36:51
  might answer that question that way, you know, and a woman whom a
• 1:37:00
  woman who basically traded pussy for alcohol, would answer it that way too,
• 1:37:03
  And again, that's not rape, that's prostitution. Is an interesting question,
• 1:37:09
  have you ever paid taxes when you didn't want to yep, sometimes twice actually,
• 1:37:21
  um yep. So, So basically the crime survey is slightly more accurate
• 1:37:30
  in that at least people know what they're answering. They know they are saying
• 1:37:33
  they were raped, they know they are saying they were burglarized, they know
• 1:37:38
  they are saying they were they were a victim of violent crime when they answer
• 1:37:41
  those questions, and it's not the cost one right um. And then the
• 1:37:46
  reported percentage of women victims who report to police. So they answered the survey
• 1:37:53
  the first question is did this ever happen to you? The second question is
• 1:37:58
  did you file a police report? So they get a difference between the number
• 1:38:01
  of people who experienced the crime by definition and the number of people who went
• 1:38:10
  and reported it to police after it happened. And that like people think,
• 1:38:14
  well, how could you experience a crime and not report it to police.
• 1:38:18
  Yeah. So in my family, I've had like I've I've I've barely talked
• 1:38:27
  about. You know, I had a cousin who died of fentanyl poisoning.
• 1:38:32
  And I had an uncle who lived for sixty fifty or sixty years with addiction
• 1:38:41
  problems. And my mom had chronic pain, severe chronic pain, and my
• 1:38:49
  uncle also had severe chronic pain, and because he was an addict, he
• 1:38:56
  was treated like any effort he made at pain management at all was seeking to
• 1:39:02
  feat his addiction. Yeah, so he got desperate and he stole my mom's
• 1:39:09
  pain medicine once. Damn wellbet that did not get reported to the police.
• 1:39:17
  Yeah, we handled that as a family. It wasn't something that came out
• 1:39:25
  well. Like. Addiction is a really complicated illness, and it's even more
• 1:39:32
  complicated when it exists in conjunction with severe chronic pain. And I'm not talking
• 1:39:39
  about minor pain. My uncle had parrotnitis from a sponge that was left in
• 1:39:45
  his gut following an appendix surgery, and they had to take his entire stomach.
• 1:39:53
  They took part of his every single organ in his gut, and his
• 1:39:59
  chronic pain in his gut for the rest of his life was similar to getting
• 1:40:03
  punched in the gut. So it wasn't minor minor pain. If you take
• 1:40:08
  someone's entire stomach and gut, what's he even left over. He had his
• 1:40:15
  small intestine attached directly to his esophagus. Meals consisted of a couple of spoonfuls
• 1:40:20
  of food. They took out, They took out some of the intestine,
• 1:40:27
  the small intestines, some of the large intestines, some of the colon.
• 1:40:31
  Every like they had to take off even a little bit. I don't think
• 1:40:35
  he had a gallbladder anymore. Like, he really was messed up. His
• 1:40:41
  health was really bad. He was diabetic. He had cereamic bones in his
• 1:40:45
  feet. He is also the uncle whose arm got caught in a rubber press.
• 1:40:53
  This was a horrific accident. This crushed his hand and his arm bones
• 1:41:00
  down to about half an inch thick. Oh my god, and then they
• 1:41:03
  had to roll it back out. Oh so it popped the ends of his
• 1:41:10
  fingers, um like balloons like. It just destroyed his arm. And doctors
• 1:41:18
  convinced him to do an experimental procedure to save it, and they put metal
• 1:41:25
  in in place of the bones, and um, it didn't work. So
• 1:41:30
  his arm was pretty useless and it was in pain all the time. And
• 1:41:34
  when it got cold, his his metal bones got cold, and it was
• 1:41:41
  just like then. They didn't monitor his pain treatment, so when he u
• 1:41:48
  when he was on he was on pain medication, they didn't they didn't prevent
• 1:41:56
  him from becoming addicted to morphine in that, like, he already had some
• 1:42:03
  tendency and it's some some weakness toward that and it kind of runs in the
• 1:42:11
  family. Um, but this just like took away all of his chance at
• 1:42:18
  not being an addict. And it just his whole life he struggled with that,
• 1:42:25
  and his whole life he struggled with pain. So when I say he
• 1:42:30
  stole some of my mother's pain medicine, um, I'm not talking about some
• 1:42:34
  malicious you know, not caring how she felt. This was an act of
• 1:42:40
  desperation, yeah, right, and our like our whole family struggled with this
• 1:42:46
  situation. This was a this was there's nothing black and white about this,
• 1:42:53
  right. This When I was when I was a little kid, I can
• 1:42:57
  still remember the same uncle carrying me around when I had a cold, and
• 1:43:01
  uh, joking around about pictures in our house and you know, given me
• 1:43:06
  a silly nickname to make me laugh and stuff, and you know, like
• 1:43:12
  that's how I remember him. I remember him as that guy. I remember
• 1:43:15
  him as the guy who um carried my mom into the hospital when she had
• 1:43:21
  pneumonia. And that's that's what I hold on to because that's who he was
• 1:43:29
  on the inside. And every time, you know, the every time his
• 1:43:35
  inner demons got one over on his better angels. You know, we all
• 1:43:40
  well knew that was that was his struggle and managing that was his struggle and
• 1:43:47
  our struggle, right, Um, A lot of these situations, this is
• 1:43:54
  you you talk about crime and the COMMISSI shouldn't have crime and the commission of
• 1:44:00
  violent crime. I think most of the people that are involved in criminal activities,
• 1:44:09
  whether it's to do with drug addiction, whether it's to do with um,
• 1:44:14
  you know, burglary, robbery, sexual violence, all of it have
• 1:44:18
  some kind of struggle like that that they are there. They have their better
• 1:44:23
  angels, and they have their inner demons, and when their inner demons get
• 1:44:27
  the better their better angels, they they commit a crime. They do something
• 1:44:32
  like that. And in a lot of families, people are aware of that
• 1:44:39
  this uncle, that aunt, this cousin, that brother, this sister,
• 1:44:43
  mom, dad, you know, is an alcoholic, has a gambling problem,
• 1:44:49
  was molested as a child, you know, and beaten, was raised
• 1:44:54
  in an abusive household themselves, you know, or whatever. And now sometimes
• 1:44:59
  they do this and you'll manage it. And so a lot of crimes don't
• 1:45:03
  get reported to police. You know, Oh, this jewelry went missing,
• 1:45:09
  Well before you call a police, make sure cousin Julie didn't take it,
• 1:45:16
  you know. And there's just stuff like that. And there are many sicknesses.
• 1:45:24
  Some people set fires out of sickness, and our society doesn't handle sickness
• 1:45:31
  like that as a handicap. That our society could band together, that our
• 1:45:39
  neighbors are friends, the people who know the individual, and the people who
• 1:45:44
  have the education to assist the individual can band together to help them overcome,
• 1:45:50
  help them manage, or help them contain. They treat it as this person
• 1:45:57
  is a monster who deserves to be punished. And I know it makes me
• 1:46:03
  sick when I look at the prison system and I look at what we have
• 1:46:06
  in the prison system, the stuff that we've talked about in the last couple
• 1:46:10
  of weeks, because every person in every cell in that system has a backstory
• 1:46:18
  that involves some kind of mental sickness. Yeah. So yeah, And again
• 1:46:29
  that's why a lot of crime doesn't get reported to police, because when it
• 1:46:31
  happens within families or among friends, and people are aware of those sicknesses,
• 1:46:38
  they feel compassion for the perpetrator and they don't report. Another reason is,
• 1:46:45
  let's say my uncle stole from one of his friends, but when he did
• 1:46:50
  it, he did it during the commission of another crime. Maybe they were
• 1:46:56
  using together. That friend's not going to go to the cops. You know,
• 1:47:00
  he stole my cocaine. You know, he didn't use cocaine, but
• 1:47:04
  he stole my cocaine. No, don't you don't report your cocaine stolen,
• 1:47:09
  right, yeah, no, And it's historically been discussed some people do not
• 1:47:18
  report to police that they were raped well unconscious due to the consumption of illicit
• 1:47:25
  substances or alcohol that they were too young to be drinking. So those crimes
• 1:47:30
  don't get reported either. So there is going to be it's reasonable for there
• 1:47:34
  to be a difference between the number of people who are crime victims and the
• 1:47:40
  number of people who tell the police what happened to them. And then of
• 1:47:45
  course you go to the police and you report the crime, but you don't
• 1:47:51
  have like you can describe the victim, but maybe you know or you can
• 1:47:57
  describe the victim, you can describe the perpetrator, but you don't have proof.
• 1:48:00
  You don't have you know, there's no DNA there's no anything. Maybe
• 1:48:08
  you don't go report for a week because this was somebody that you were close
• 1:48:12
  to, you know, something along those lines, or you know, you
• 1:48:16
  were passed out drunk at at Julie's party, but you don't find out till
• 1:48:23
  a week later that somebody did something to you. You can go report that
• 1:48:29
  to the police all you want, but now all the evidence has gone because
• 1:48:31
  you've showered at least once during that week, unless you're really screwed up.
• 1:48:35
  Yeah, right, So the number of police report recorded crimes would be different
• 1:48:43
  from the number of reports as well, because A, there are times when
• 1:48:49
  you just don't have evidence to back your allegation, even if the crime happened.
• 1:48:55
  And then of course, b there's also going to be people who are
• 1:48:57
  going to on a survey like this. They're and say, oh, yeah,
• 1:49:00
  this happened to me. This totally happened to me, and I reported
• 1:49:03
  it to the police, and maybe they did, but it never happened,
• 1:49:06
  or the story isn't true, like they say there was no consent, but
• 1:49:13
  actually there was, you know. And so that some that difference between reported
• 1:49:18
  and recorded crimes can't even be used as a false allegation rate because some of
• 1:49:24
  those are false, some of those are not. Yeah, So he says,
• 1:49:28
  I concentrate on adult women age sixteen and over. Item one provides the
• 1:49:33
  percentage of women age sixteen to fifty nine who reported rape in the last year
• 1:49:38
  for the years two thousand and four and five to the years twenty nineteen and
• 1:49:44
  twenty twenty. This is based on the sample survey by the c SEW and
• 1:49:49
  will be subject to a fairly wide error bar. The number of women age
• 1:49:55
  sixteen to fifty nine in England and Wales increased from sixteen to eighteen million over
• 1:50:00
  the period. Yeah, sixteen million to eighteen million between two thousand and five
• 1:50:05
  and twenty twenty. Oh wait, that's just the population, yeah, not
• 1:50:10
  the victims. Oh what are they doing over there? You well, you
• 1:50:15
  know, those were those were the victims of childbirth, well, and immigration,
• 1:50:21
  some women moved there. Multiplying this population by the percentage of reported rape
• 1:50:28
  victims gives our best estimate of the number of genuine female rape victims in this
• 1:50:31
  age range. And he has this figure. So the number of women who
• 1:50:45
  reported being victimized sort of bounces all over the place. Here this this this
• 1:50:50
  blue dot line and it in between two thousand and four and two thousand and
• 1:50:58
  six, so that would be two thousand five. It is in between one
• 1:51:03
  hundred thousand and one hundred and twenty thousand, probably pretty close to one hundred
• 1:51:10
  and ten thousand. It goes all the way up to almost one hundred and
• 1:51:15
  eighty thousand in two thousand and six. At its lowest point in twenty fourteen,
• 1:51:24
  it has dropped down to approximately fifty thousand. You so you'll notice it's
• 1:51:31
  like balancing all over the place. The top point is above eighteen or above
• 1:51:36
  one hundred and eighty thousand in twenty eleven, and it gets almost that high
• 1:51:45
  in two thousand and six, and those are the only two years when it's
• 1:51:47
  that high. It there's a big shift in twenty twelve at the point is
• 1:51:56
  something called Operation U Tree, which I'm not aware of. Yeah, I'm
• 1:52:00
  curious as to what that is. What's interesting, the number that report the
• 1:52:06
  crime is really high, but the number that report to police stays between about
• 1:52:14
  nineteen eighteen or nineteen thousand and about looks like maybe thirty eight thousand up until
• 1:52:23
  Operation U Tree, and it drops down to what looks like approximately ten thousand,
• 1:52:30
  in the range of ten thousand and stays there after twenty twelve. The
• 1:52:39
  police reported crime starts out and stays pretty steady from two thousand and five to
• 1:52:48
  twenty twelve. It looks like approximately eight or nine thousand, and then in
• 1:52:58
  twenty fourteen it's arts to rise up and sort of steadily goes up till twenty
• 1:53:03
  twenty, when it looks like it's starting to plateau again at forty. So
• 1:53:12
  there's the changes go in the opposite direction. The number of women claiming to
• 1:53:18
  have been victimized and the number of women reporting both drop at twenty twelve,
• 1:53:25
  but the number of police reported, so police recording that that um, there
• 1:53:33
  was a crime goes up, which I don't really understand the distinction there.
• 1:53:42
  I mean, is this the police walking up on the crime happening and reporting.
• 1:53:47
  I mean, well, I do recall that at some point in the
• 1:53:55
  last couple decades in the UK there was a scandlum where the police were prosecuting
• 1:54:03
  cases that were not valid and so there were a lot of false and malicious
• 1:54:10
  prosecutions because of a change in their criteria. And I want to say that
• 1:54:15
  was in and around like twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen, but I don't think
• 1:54:23
  it was called Operation yew Tree, or is that yeah? Operation yew Tree
• 1:54:32
  So co Operation yew Tree was a British police investigation into sexual abuse allegations,
• 1:54:39
  predominantly the abuse of children against the English let's see the English media personality,
• 1:54:53
  Jimmy Seville and others. So that's weird. Operation you Tree happens and women
• 1:55:00
  start not making allegations. Ended in twenty fifteen, but was absorbed by Operation
• 1:55:11
  winter Key, which was launched in twenty fifteen. Also absorbed other sexual abuse
• 1:55:15
  investigations, including Operation Fairbank, the Met Police's umbrella inquiry into historical sexual abuse
• 1:55:27
  claims involving politicians and public figures. So I guess when a bunch of public
• 1:55:33
  figures got accused. They didn't they didn't have time to deal with women making
• 1:55:40
  false allegations. I don't know, but there were more more allegations I guess
• 1:55:47
  by children, So there you go. Item too tells us that the CSW
• 1:55:55
  asked what percentage of these rape victims told police in years twenty fourteen twenty seventeen.
• 1:56:00
  In twenty twenty and twenty fourteen, they reported seventeen percent told the police.
• 1:56:04
  In twenty seventeen and twenty twenty combined, they reported that fifteen point eight
• 1:56:10
  percent told police. I shall assume that seventeen percent applies from two thousand and
• 1:56:14
  five to twenty sixteen, and fifteen point eight thereafter, by multiplying the above
• 1:56:18
  best estimate of the number of genuine rape victims by this percentage, gives us
• 1:56:24
  our best estimate of the number of reports of rape to police that are genuine
• 1:56:30
  for a Weben aged sixteen to fifty nine, and again he's referencing this figure
• 1:56:39
  one. Finally, Item three provides the number of rape crimes recorded by the
• 1:56:46
  police for adult women sixteen and over, which again for our purposes, I
• 1:56:50
  identify as a number of allegations. This is also plotted in Figure one.
• 1:56:55
  Note that this is a very different measure of allegations from that used in most
• 1:57:00
  of the sources quoted by Rumney, because it refers to the numbers of complaints
• 1:57:04
  which the police have classed as crimes. Thus, the main source of contention
• 1:57:11
  in interpreting the data quoted by Rumney is avoided, namely the inclusion as allegations
• 1:57:17
  those complaints ultimately designated as no crime by the police. So Figure one shows
• 1:57:25
  there was a large drop in the CSW based estimate of rapes between twenty twelve
• 1:57:30
  and twenty thirteen, the reasons for which are unknown to him. The volume
• 1:57:35
  of rape crimes recorded by police has increased since twenty twelve. The reason for
• 1:57:41
  this is at least in part due to poor police recording practices in earlier years,
• 1:57:47
  and this is acknowledged in CSW twenty seventeen. So they didn't they didn't
• 1:57:55
  record as many cases, in other words, or they didn't record as accurately
• 1:58:00
  or a document as effectively back then. The same source does, however,
• 1:58:05
  also identify the effective Operation you Tree the post civil investigations in increasing a number
• 1:58:12
  of reports to police, including encouragement to report historical offenses. Operation you Tree
• 1:58:18
  started in twenty twelve, and Figure one shows that prior to that date the
• 1:58:24
  number of police recorded rape crimes was less than our estimate of the number of
• 1:58:29
  genuine reports of rape to police, perhaps partly because the police were no criming
• 1:58:33
  too many complaints and partly simply due to poor record keeping. So they're both
• 1:58:44
  ignoring evidence in some cases or misinterpreting evidence in some cases, and then also
• 1:58:53
  not documenting properly when they get evidence in some cases which would destroy a case.
• 1:59:03
  From twenty fourteen onwards, the number of police recorded rape crimes has exceeded
• 1:59:08
  our estimate of the number of genuine reports of rape to the police, the
• 1:59:13
  difference yielding my estimate of the number of false allegations. Figure two shows this
• 1:59:17
  as a percentage of the number of police recorded rape crimes, i e.
• 1:59:21
  The apparent false allegation rape, it has become disconcertingly high. And here we
• 1:59:29
  are looking at from zero to one hundred here, and it starts out at
• 1:59:35
  about thirty and twenty fourteen and goes up to eighty in twenty nineteen, drops
• 1:59:42
  back down to sixty and twenty twenty. And I think it was between twenty
• 1:59:45
  nineteen and twenty twenty that it came out that police were designating false allegations as
• 1:59:54
  crimes and referring false allegations for prosecution to meet criteria that were set for them
• 2:00:02
  by politicians, because they were accused of designating true allegations as no crime and
• 2:00:11
  refusing to refer them for prosecution. So there's an over correction there. Yeah.
• 2:00:18
  I invite readers to deconstruct the argument and to check the data. My
• 2:00:21
  own observations are as follows. The weak link is the CSW estimate of the
• 2:00:27
  percentage of victims reporting to the police. Because this relates to women's experience over
• 2:00:35
  life since age sixteen, it is possible, even likely that reporting rates have
• 2:00:40
  been substantially greater in recent years. If so, the implied rate of false
• 2:00:45
  allegations from twenty fourteen would be smaller than given in Figure two. Another issue
• 2:00:51
  is that the CSW data relates to the number of victims, whereas the police
• 2:00:57
  data relates to the number of crimes. Just means that the more women who
• 2:01:01
  are unfortunate enough to be raped more than once in a year, the more
• 2:01:06
  the CSW based victim data would underestimate the number of true reported rapes in the
• 2:01:14
  argument fails, and so that takes us kind of back to that lessac research
• 2:01:19
  that um, you know, he used to claim there was an epidemic of
• 2:01:25
  serial rape on university campuses, when in fact what he found was that the
• 2:01:31
  majority of rape may be perpetrated by a small handful of very disturbed individuals that
• 2:01:40
  that are serial rapists. The other possibility with that is in a in a
• 2:01:46
  situation of perpetual abuse, like by one individual against another for a period of
• 2:01:55
  time, say, um, you know, like my circumstance, or the
• 2:02:00
  circumstance of any child that is molested by a family member, or like in
• 2:02:06
  my case, it was a foster kid who was older than me, who
• 2:02:14
  was fostered by a family member, and then they didn't give him the treatment
• 2:02:17
  he needed to recover from his own victim experience. And so there are circumstances
• 2:02:28
  where an individual who is young might experience something like that over and over again,
• 2:02:35
  and the same person might commit that crime over and over again. And
• 2:02:41
  if the police end up charging that individual later based on an allegation, and
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  they are able to prove several instances of that purpose perpetration, they might charge
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  those as separate crimes. So they would charge them with so many counts of
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  that crime that would make it look like, you know, to the untrained
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  eye, like ten, you know, or however many like that number of
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  charges was of people went out and committed that crime against that number of victims,
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  when in fact it was actually one perpetrator against one victim repeatedly. And
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  so that's that's one thing. And then another thing is if you have,
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  like the the situation on university campuses, that is most likely to lead to
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  a charge would be somebody passed out at a party, somebody somebody who maybe
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  isn't aware, and somebody who takes advantage of that. The kind of person
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  that would take advantage of that is is not just going to do it once,
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  They're going to do it over and over again. Yea. So they
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  may have a number of victims, and that would be the serial rapist M.
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  So. And then there are also serial victims where people make themselves vulnerable
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  because they have had some sort of experience during their childhood that disrupted their development
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  of defenses of their own boundaries against an incursion by other people in fractions by
• 2:04:28
  other people. And you know the person that you would you would expect this
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  from that that doormat that always says yes to everything that gets roped into um
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  over time they that you know they can't handle, or or um being the
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  room mother for their kids classroom when they actually have a full time job and
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  a part time job, or you know, doing doing the the um at
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  the church, cooking for their mother daughter picnic at their church where they run
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  the kitchen for the day instead of just showing up with a covered dish like
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  all the other women. You know, like that person is that that doesn't
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  have time for those things, but it says yes to them anyway because they
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  don't have it in them to argue with the pushy lady that's asking them would
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  you do this? That person is more likely to be the serial victim type,
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  you know, than say somebody who's like, you know, I just
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  don't have time. I'm sorry, I can't like that. And that happens
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  where you would see um multiple acts of perpetration, but one person is reporting
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  them, so the numbers can get skewed either way that one victim, multiple
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  perpetrators. Readers will note that the police data relate to age sixteen and above,
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  where the CSCW data relate to age sixteen to fifty nine, So the
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  police data starts doesn't stop at age fifty. It might include elderly people who
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  are in a vulnerable position that's different than younger people. And it is an
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  unfortunate truth that in care homes for the elderly, abuse is rampant and sexual
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  abuse occurs as well. So there so there's a victimization that may be reported,
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  and it's sometimes easier to catch those people because there are there's always people
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  around in a in a nursing home, in a care home for the elderly,
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  there's always a floor nurse, there's always another nurse's aid somewhere in the
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  vicinity, and there's often a roommate or family members that might come in and
• 2:06:45
  walk in on it. Family Members, if they're suspicious, might put in
• 2:06:50
  a nanny cam and catch the individual. And there's been news stories of people
• 2:06:56
  being caught that way, so it's easier to detect those crimes, so that
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  might skew the numbers a little bit as well. A higher percentage of perpetrators
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  might get caught. Readers will note that the police data relate to age sixteen,
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  and I read that. However, I do not believe this is important.
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  The CSCW also provides rape data for ages sixteen to seventy four, and
• 2:07:20
  these data imply that the number of victims age sixty and over is not large,
• 2:07:25
  does not significantly perturb the argument. So his conclusion is the term of
• 2:07:34
  rate false. The term rate of false rape allegations is highly ambiguous, has
• 2:07:41
  no agreed definition. Relatable quantification of the rate of false rape allegations, even
• 2:07:46
  given a specific definition, remains elusive, so we can't really be sure.
• 2:07:51
  Claims that the rate of false rape allegations is less than ten percent are actually
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  based on lower bounds. There's no compelling evidence that the true rate might not
• 2:08:03
  be far greater, and much highly uncertain evidence that it might be. And
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  then finally, there is some contestable evidence that false rape allegation rates have increased
• 2:08:15
  since Operation you Tree in the UK, but quantification is uncertain. So then
• 2:08:22
  he if you look at the the link to this is in the low bar,
• 2:08:26
  so anybody wants to go to it. He actually has detailed referencing linked
• 2:08:33
  at the bottom of this. So my conclusion on this is this article.
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  The most valuable thing in this article is that it doesn't just prove that we
• 2:08:48
  don't know how many allegations of rape or false, but it it tears apart
• 2:08:56
  the claim that we do know based on criteria that is very concrete. We
• 2:09:01
  don't have a solid definition of what constitutes a false allegation, right, We
• 2:09:07
  don't have a solid definition of a solid set of criteria for placing an allegation
• 2:09:16
  in that category. And different research that has led to different rates in its
• 2:09:26
  reporting has used different criteria and may represent rather than representing percentage of allegations that
• 2:09:35
  are actually false as reported, It actually often represents a lower bound, meaning
• 2:09:45
  there's a range of rate of false allegations. At least this many are false,
• 2:09:52
  but it probably is more so. When feminists tell you two percent,
• 2:10:00
  you can throw that out entirely. At least ten percent of allegations are false,
• 2:10:07
  and it's very likely that more than ten percent or false. There is
• 2:10:13
  some research that says as high as ninety percent, and so the number is
• 2:10:16
  somewhere between ten percent and ninety percent. We can't be sure, and it
• 2:10:24
  is therefore important, very important, even based on the feminist claim that a
• 2:10:33
  rarity of false allegations would make it unimportant to address it, based on the
• 2:10:39
  fact that we don't know how rare it is, and that at least one
• 2:10:43
  in ten of those allegations is false, it merits rigorous due process standards in
• 2:10:52
  order to ensure that we are not falsely imprisoning or encouraging wrongful vigilante violence against
• 2:11:01
  falsely accused men, if that makes sense. So when you get into arguments
• 2:11:11
  with people on social media or if you are dealing with you know, people
• 2:11:15
  in your life that say this, well, we shouldn't, we shouldn't focus
• 2:11:20
  on the due process rights of the accused in rape cases because false allegations are
• 2:11:24
  rare. You can now say, hey, wait and wait a minute,
• 2:11:28
  Like, first of all, the claim of rarity is a woozle. It
• 2:11:33
  came from a claim maybe made by a police chief that didn't actually have any
• 2:11:39
  evidence to back that claim. Second of all, what research has shown is
• 2:11:45
  that at the very least one in ten allegations are false, at least one
• 2:11:54
  in ten, possibly as high as nine in ten, and the real number
• 2:11:58
  is somewhere in tween. So with that, let me see if I have
• 2:12:05
  any further Like, I've been reading the super chats because they've been popping up
• 2:12:09
  in my face, and I've read that one already. So that's the last
• 2:12:15
  one we got. So let me look at the super chows and again I
• 2:12:26
  am searching for this stupid category. There we go, super Chows. There
• 2:12:39
  we go. Okay, HBr news four ten on Amazon lookout, all right,
• 2:12:43
  I we probably read this, but I'm going to read it anyway because
• 2:12:48
  it's after Brian wrote done. Um, people constantly see their private property rights
• 2:12:56
  to companies in these contracts. Oh this is um on Amazon lockout five dollars
• 2:13:01
  In these contracts, the terms of service that people enter into with web companies,
• 2:13:07
  the contracts almost always have some type of clause that says, we the
• 2:13:09
  company can cut you off from our service whenever we want, for whatever reason
• 2:13:13
  we want, regardless of whether we want to tell you or not. Oh
• 2:13:18
  and if you build your life around our services, not our fault if it
• 2:13:20
  all comes crumbling down because we decided to pull the rug out under your feet.
• 2:13:26
  So there's a in the United States, there's a precedent, and I've
• 2:13:31
  found it once and I haven't been able to find it since. That basically
• 2:13:35
  says those kind of clauses are unreasonable and don't apply. People believe they can't
• 2:13:43
  do anything, but they can. Like those blanket clauses, you have to
• 2:13:48
  have more specificity and they have to be reasonable. Like when you pay for
• 2:13:56
  a service, a clause says we can take your money and then not give
• 2:14:01
  you the service without giving you a reason that there's I can't remember what the
• 2:14:07
  precedent was, but it basically says that that's invalid because it's saying that the
• 2:14:15
  contract itself is meaningless. Unfortunately, that doesn't necessarily protect people in other countries.
• 2:14:24
  But yeah, people do sign over an awful lot. There was a
• 2:14:28
  company that put ownership of your soul in their terms of service to see who
• 2:14:37
  was reading it and it I guess it took forever before someone complained, like,
• 2:14:41
  did you actually put ownership of my soul in your terms of service?
• 2:14:46
  Most people just signed it over so because they're not reading because the terms of
• 2:14:52
  service is like five hundred pages long, Meredith. He gave us five dollars
• 2:14:58
  and said, honey for the badgers and thanks for deconstructing many of the talking
• 2:15:03
  points used by feminists. Zapier gave us fifty dollars and said, sorry for
• 2:15:07
  being rude to the head badger on the bird app. You guys can be
• 2:15:11
  turfs if you want, but that does mean I will take jabs at you
• 2:15:16
  periodically. It's just business. So I am completely at a loss here because
• 2:15:22
  i haven't been on Twitter for about a month because I've been speaking of overtime.
• 2:15:33
  Nobody wants to do the kind of job I do, like my day
• 2:15:37
  job. People are afraid to be direct support professionals or it doesn't pay enough
• 2:15:43
  to support their household, and they don't do the job, and so we
• 2:15:46
  keep losing our second shift and so I've been picking up a lot of extra
• 2:15:52
  time. But but I'm also paying to replace some plumbing and stuff in a
• 2:16:01
  home, so it all works out right. Um, So I'm whatever conversation
• 2:16:07
  that was, I missed it. And I don't know what your definition of
• 2:16:15
  turf is. Like some people call you a turf if you don't support trenders,
• 2:16:24
  and I think that's bullshit. Um, Like trenders, I differentiate between
• 2:16:31
  trenders and people who have historically demonstrated that they are trans and like one set
• 2:16:39
  of the the trender set, is exploiting compassion for the experiences of actual transgender
• 2:16:50
  people, and that there's always going to be when when there's a victim set
• 2:16:56
  where a set of people with a disadvantage that deserve compassion and need a special
• 2:17:05
  approach from society, there's always going to be people that try to fake being
• 2:17:09
  part of that group, or try to imagine themselves being part of that group,
• 2:17:13
  UM, try to weasel their way in to benefit from the compassion even
• 2:17:18
  though they have no need for it, like for for crying out Low,
• 2:17:22
  There's even been people that have faked cancer um to to get benefits of that.
• 2:17:28
  So just then, yeah, Tyler Preston pointed out four Chan calls trenders
• 2:17:37
  trouns to differentiate them from actual trans people. That that makes sense because a
• 2:17:45
  lot of the people that are going going over the top and exploiting that compassion
• 2:17:50
  are cartoonish in their behavior, so that that's very fitting. Um, but
• 2:17:58
  I don't care what you we just don't call me a feminist, don't care.
• 2:18:03
  I mean, if you were rude to Alison, it's kind of like
• 2:18:05
  kicking a puppy. Yeah, but if you were rude to Allison and apologizing
• 2:18:11
  to me doesn't do any good, you know, apologize to Alison, Yeah,
• 2:18:18
  yeah, that's she's the one who deserves your apology. If you are
• 2:18:24
  trying to apologize, it's not really much of an apology here. And if
• 2:18:30
  you're trying to explain something to me, it helps if you explain your definition
• 2:18:35
  for turf plain. Dane gave us five dollars and said, did he have
• 2:18:39
  one of those portable hole Susie on in the Looney Tunes? Oh that's great?
• 2:18:45
  Um yeah, um, maybe she had a portable hole and that's why.
• 2:18:58
  Oh god, oh jeez, this takes me back to my college D
• 2:19:03
  and D days, Like every time we got a portable hole. It's a
• 2:19:09
  rare magical item and it works exactly like the cartoon portable hole. Um,
• 2:19:15
  except it's got spatial limitations. How much you can put in, how wide
• 2:19:20
  you can open it, and so on and um. Every time I get
• 2:19:26
  out the portable hole, everybody would snicker, all of us in the room.
• 2:19:31
  We couldn't help it, you know, grabs black circle, tosses it
• 2:19:35
  at the wall and he sticks his stick in it. Is he the villain
• 2:19:39
  from the movie who framed Roger Rabbit playing Day and you made my day?
• 2:19:45
  Jeez, that's great. And then that's our super chowse. Let's take a
• 2:19:54
  look at Rumble. The Rumble has a whole bunch of comments. We don't
• 2:20:01
  have any paid rumble rants, but cereal rapists like corn Pop. Thank you,
• 2:20:09
  Mangota ninety two. That was great. Um, oh god, there
• 2:20:13
  is the term bonus hole. Now, Richard Bier says, I'm assuming that's
• 2:20:20
  the difference between red eye and brown eye, right, pink eye and brown
• 2:20:24
  eye. Um, the buonus hole. Depending on depending on the how used
• 2:20:35
  it is, it might be the better of the two. Um. Let's
• 2:20:39
  see. Oh yeah, mangotca on ninety two says. We were talking about
• 2:20:46
  men pretending to have money, they don't, sort of like how women pretend
• 2:20:48
  to have breasts. They don't a pretty face, they don't a flat stomach,
• 2:20:52
  they don't, et cetera. And like the flat stomach thing hit me
• 2:20:58
  really hard one time. I I M, so, I have a bulging
• 2:21:03
  disc in my lower back and lower Lombard's partly it's a work injury that I
• 2:21:09
  never got workers comped for because I didn't realize when I was employed with that
• 2:21:16
  employer that it was as bad as it is. But and honestly, if
• 2:21:22
  I had known then that it was that bad, but I also knew of
• 2:21:28
  the disability that I have, I'm not sure I would have treated it as
• 2:21:33
  a worker's comp thing anyway, because not everybody has the same weakness. Like
• 2:21:37
  I probably never should have been a nurse's aid, at least not at that
• 2:21:41
  nursing home. So anyway, so I have this her needed disc and well
• 2:21:48
  it's not her neated anymore, it's bulging disc, but it's bulging toward the
• 2:21:54
  inside, towards the spine. And when I get when I put on extra
• 2:21:56
  pounds, which at during the COVID farce, I went up to two hundred
• 2:22:03
  and ten pounds, which is a lot for me. My high school waits
• 2:22:07
  one hundred and twenty five pounds, So that tells you quite a bit there.
• 2:22:13
  And I went up to two hundred and ten pounds, and I had
• 2:22:15
  a big gut, and it pulls on the muscles around that disk, and
• 2:22:20
  it causes compression, and it causes pinched nerves and psiatic nerve pain. So
• 2:22:26
  it's very painful to have a fat belly for me, and to have an
• 2:22:31
  unsupported fat belly. And I discovered when I was years ago, when I
• 2:22:37
  was photographing weddings and like after I had my son and I was taken off
• 2:22:41
  the baby weight, that corsets support exactly that area and actually help prevent my
• 2:22:48
  back pain from being as bad. So I always wore corsets when I photographed
• 2:22:54
  weddings. I'd wear a corset under the outfit like my professional time, just
• 2:23:01
  to make it so I could stand on my feet for twelve hours without having
• 2:23:05
  back pain that would cause me to be crippled. And I, you know,
• 2:23:11
  like I look at those and they really do slim down your waist a
• 2:23:15
  lot. They like they make you a lot more attractive. Right. So
• 2:23:20
  I recently was looking at ads on my phone that that crop up, you
• 2:23:26
  know when I play phone games and stuff. And there's this clothing device that's
• 2:23:33
  being advertised now that has the effective a corset, but it's fabric. It's
• 2:23:39
  not as binding and combining error confining as a corset. And it shows these
• 2:23:46
  women and they have these huge bulging biffs, but in front for the initiated,
• 2:23:54
  right, and they roll this up over their belly and all of a
• 2:24:01
  sudden they're this, they got this lovely hour glass, and it like,
• 2:24:05
  I'm just amazed, And I'm like, what happens when she goes to bed
• 2:24:09
  with somebody and she takes that thing off? Oh forget it? Like do
• 2:24:15
  they make any of those where it's crotchless and so you can keep it on?
• 2:24:22
  Michael Fox? Yes, that is exactly what I have. Taylor's dandless
• 2:24:26
  you you pegged it And yeah, they're called spanks, m Richard. And
• 2:24:31
  and it's funny because like those were those were they're they're quite um dramatic in
• 2:24:43
  the change they make. Oh somebody says, look again, there were rumble
• 2:24:46
  rants, So let me reload. I see if I can. Oh,
• 2:24:50
  I see it weight, I can scrolling, I can see. Okay,
• 2:24:52
  so we have awesome, Cool three says at Badger live stream. What about
• 2:24:58
  just U false allegations? Oh no, that one's yeah, awesome Cool three
• 2:25:03
  gave is five dollars in said, I complained about being sexually harassed by my
• 2:25:07
  female boss. When I reported it to female HR, I was accused of
• 2:25:13
  being violent and fired. Right now, I am trying to start my home
• 2:25:16
  bookkeeping business. Yeah, that's a that's a rough one. And I will
• 2:25:24
  tell you right now, it's not just the women at HRUM. The training
• 2:25:31
  they get at HR is that if there's a conflict between a guy and a
• 2:25:39
  female employee, the guy is the bad guy. Duluth model training is everywhere.
• 2:25:48
  Ye. So, and of course, the the kind of guy that's
• 2:25:50
  going to become an HR representative is going to be the male feminist type or
• 2:25:58
  the trad con type thinks that it's men's job to keep women safe and make
• 2:26:03
  them feel comfortable. So they're they're both gonna be the types that are gonna
• 2:26:11
  presume you the bad guy. And HR training, it's not even necessarily the
• 2:26:18
  fault of your company. It's not necessarily corporate. There are if I understand
• 2:26:24
  correctly, there are federal standards for that training that have been lobbied into place
• 2:26:30
  by feminists as part of the Violence Against Women Act. So HR training is
• 2:26:37
  based on state mandated standards. So you're looking at if there was no government,
• 2:26:46
  you wouldn't have this problem, and best of luck starting your own bookkeeping
• 2:26:54
  business. That's probably the better way to go, simply because you can,
• 2:27:01
  among other things. It's up to you whether you advance with a different software
• 2:27:09
  capabilities and know AI and all that. It's up to you how what direction
• 2:27:15
  your business takes and everything. You're not at the mercy of some middle management
• 2:27:18
  idiot deciding that this new thing that's happening that looks like it's going to be
• 2:27:24
  the way all the businesses are going isn't as important as everybody says it is.
• 2:27:28
  Right. You get to decide that yourself, so the success of your
• 2:27:31
  business is in your hands and not the hands of some idiot. And we
• 2:27:37
  have no but Fan twenty one gave us a dollar and said, I find
• 2:27:39
  it funny feminists both think the two percent is real and that so many women
• 2:27:46
  voted the wrong way in twenty sixteen, but not once. Wonder if their
• 2:27:50
  enemies would be more patriarchal if the two percent was higher. Yeah, women,
• 2:28:00
  women are either perfect and cannot be criticized, and smarter than men,
• 2:28:07
  equal in every way except all the ways in which they're better than men.
• 2:28:11
  You know when that fits feminists arguments. But as soon as soon as they
• 2:28:18
  want to portray women as victims or criticize something a woman does, then women
• 2:28:26
  are stupid, weak, have no personal agency, don't know what they're talking
• 2:28:33
  about right, can't make their own decisions. They're bad guys, They're malicious,
• 2:28:39
  dangerous, have to be managed and need men to take care of them
• 2:28:46
  and protect them and make their decisions for them, because you know, feminism
• 2:28:56
  and that is all of their rumble rants. But but yeah, um,
• 2:29:03
  in regard to that double standard on looks, I will simply refer you all
• 2:29:09
  to the old um doctor Demento song. And I can't remember who the actual
• 2:29:16
  uh performer of the tune was. The biggest parakeets in town about about a
• 2:29:24
  chick with an avery and all all the euphemisms and innuendos about all the different
• 2:29:30
  birds among them. Was the tale of a guy who marries the chick with
• 2:29:37
  the biggest parakeets in town. But as he goes to caress her, he
• 2:29:41
  sees them on the dresser, the biggest parakeets in town. And there you
• 2:29:50
  go. So that I will thank everybody for listening. UM, thanks to
• 2:29:58
  my two co hosts for going over this art with me. I want thanks
• 2:30:01
  to Rick Bradford for writing this also, UM, this is this is a
• 2:30:05
  great analysis. And like I said, everybody UH listening, I recommend bookmarking
• 2:30:11
  it. So in my low bar down underneath this this video is a link
• 2:30:18
  to this article. The link is also on the Honey Badger UH blog page
• 2:30:28
  for this UM it's on our Patreon page for this as well. It's like
• 2:30:33
  so this link is very prevalently displayed. UM. And and when you start
• 2:30:41
  hearing from from people in social media, debate and and elsewhere that you know,
• 2:30:46
  hey, this is UH, this is this is not an important discussion
• 2:30:50
  because only two percent of rape allegations are false. You can call bullshit and
• 2:30:58
  you can show them this article and talk about the issues with detailing and and
• 2:31:03
  enumerating the percentage of false allegations. And thanks to everybody who works in the
• 2:31:13
  background and make HBr talk happen. Good idol, good night y'all.