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Shields Down: Why Your Body Isn't Ready to Conceive · Non-Toxic Living

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  Shields down versus armor up. Let's talk about that. So armoring up is being in that place of fighter flight.
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  Cortisol goes up. Testosterone goes down.
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  Progesterone. Astrogen go down.
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  This is something that we can think of that it's just that mindset. Remember, we're always with ourselves.
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  We can't remove it like BPA, birthday lights or whatever it may be.
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  If someone doesn't have that energy to break through, to not be overwhelmed by all the changes,
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  it's like, oh, I'm doing so many things wrong. I need to do all these things.
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  If you can't get them to say yes, I can. And that's one of the hardest things like dealing with toxicity.
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  It's too overwhelming. I'm going to do nothing. I'm just going to drink more wine.
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  How many people that have been married for 10 years, they've been together for the longest time, can't look in each other's eyes?
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  If you could have the ability to remove a toxin from this world, what would it be?
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  The loss of the connection. At the root is probably shame. And that is...
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  Jessica, I'm so happy to have you on the show.
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  I'm so happy to be here. This is our second time. It is.
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  Getting to talk, and we hit it off about a year ago, talking about infertility and how that's connected to mindset.
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  And that was a 60-second clip. There's so much we could talk about, but I think because we never were able to fully talk about that type of toxicity,
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  the mental toxicity that affects pregnancy, this is going to be an amazing show I can't wait.
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  I'm so excited. Thank you so much for having me, Warren.
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  Let's get into your story just quickly. I think it's best told instead of in a bio being read, but how do we get here?
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  Like, because you've shared a little bit with me, and from what I can tell, you didn't have to do this.
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  You come from some genius, genetic, you know, superior brain power here.
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  You've had a lot of opportunity, you've done really well for yourself, and then you landed into this space that's, you know, not an easy space,
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  not an easy space for people to believe in how our minds affect us so much now with the work of, like, Joe D'Spenza,
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  and some of the stuff that's coming up, love him or hate him, there's some real science there, right?
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  It's changing genetic testing, so you didn't have to be here.
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  You didn't have to go into this space, but you and I both know this is one of the core toxins.
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  It's a pillar in how we move forward as humanity and how we get to where we need to be, right?
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  It's the final layer. It's the frontier of healing, the new frontier of healing.
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  So bring us here, bring us how we came to this space that you're now in.
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  If I just comment on that and then I'll get to my story also, it's, I think it's so hard to talk about thoughts and emotions being part of what we need to address because it's so hard.
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  It's not like removing a toxin, like your BPA from your home, you're always living with your mind.
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  It's easier to switch a cleaner out, yeah, isn't it?
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  Exactly. Then say I'm done with that. It's a constant decision every day to be able to do that.
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  So how I got here, my background's biochemistry, I worked very hard in the biochemistry space and then I went into medicine.
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  I'm a physician assistant, spent 20 years in obstetrics and gynecology, but because my biochemistry background was so strong, I was practicing biochemistry based systems, biology based medicine without knowing it even existed at that point, then discovered functional medicine and went into the IFM track to institute for functional medicine and then started helping people in this space, just healing and being better.
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  You know, as you I am, I ended up on my own infertility journey. I ended up with assistance prior to my functional medicine training where I used assistance to be able to conceive preterm labor at 24 weeks delivery at 32 weeks, two, three pound babies at 18 months.
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  My son was assessed for autism, my daughter had behavioral impulse control issues. I healed them with functional medicine and immediately thought I need to heal all the babies.
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  And then I thought, that's ridiculous. You've never spent time in pediatrics. So I thought, why don't you prevent it in the first place?
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  So I started working with women and in turn, their husbands to be able to optimize egg and sperm health to prevent these kinds of issues.
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  And then we were we were resolving infertility people that were in IVF that failed IVF didn't know what else to do. They'd come to me and I'd say, you want to try something outside of the box and they would say yes, and I would have them doing functional medicine work and they would get pregnant.
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  So I was only helping 13 people at a time. That doesn't mean 13 people a week. It means 13 people over three to six months, spending my evenings, coaching them, training them, teaching them the things they needed to know in order to heal themselves.
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  And it wasn't enough. So I basically was trying to find a way out magically ended up pulled out of that space by a laboratory.
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  It became the VP of medical affairs in that space where I learned corporate, I learned scaling, I learned structure, I learned educating medical providers on functional medicine in a way that they couldn't listen and hear at that point after three years, I was called to you are off mission, you need to get out there and get these babies in the world and healthy babies.
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  And so I started, I built a novo fertility went into an incubator program and I want to pitch competition, got some attention, got a little funding, have a beautiful team, we have an 80% success rate in helping people conceive.
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  That's I mean the foundation of, you know, sick kids, sick family. Yes.
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  And there's nothing better than looking into a healthy kids eyes knowing that you've done everything you can and I know that we before we conceived, we detox,
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  we did a lot of functional medicine, of course, I bet it was in the space for 18 years, but we didn't we wouldn't even think about getting pregnant, right, without both of us doing a bunch of detoxification, healing, diet, the right kinds of fats, making sure our nutrient levels were, were optimized for all the signs that shows that, but so many moms do not know that, right, and then they have a child, and then the challenges begin something you love so much seeing it suffer, it them, you know, this beautiful.
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  So, and the work you're doing is absolutely brilliant, so let's dig in, yeah, to some of the strategies, strategies that you use, and even, you know, let's go, if it's, if it's woo, woo, I don't care, right, we're here to learn, we're, we're not really woo, woo, but I think some people might think that we are because, of course they do, they think I'm woo, well, when we look at, yeah, who is that after all, when we look at, even just how we're told to get pregnant in the first place, first you're told, don't have sex until you're married and, and this is shameful and all of the
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  these areas, then you get married and everyone turns to you and says, when are you having a baby? So, you go immediately from one extreme to another, and that is, yeah, so that is something for all people, whether you're suffering from infertility or not, we have this mind shift, we're supposed to have a, not allowed, not allowed, not allowed to, this is what you're supposed to be doing, or there's something wrong. So, that's something that we have to break down in our mind, it is, it is a, it is a dirty system, you know, so we are working in our program, the first thing we address, infertility or no infertility,
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  we have these baby blocks, and this is what we discussed last year, and I know we had a little, a little pushback on, what do you mean baby blocks? But this is it, you know, there's the conscious mind, that's our 5% that we know we're thinking all of the time, and then there's a 95% subconscious that are those tapes that are telling us what we truly believe at the core of our being, and at the core of our being, we have these little shame spirals associated with sex or fertility or intimacy and connection that we need to address in a lot of instances. So,
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  we first start you with biofeedback, so we use heart math. So, when you get into our, I'm going to talk about our flagship program, we do have programs from smaller rollout programs to our flagship program, which is our intensive usually for people who have had a miscarriage or they've tried IVF or they do not want to do IVF, but that seems to be their last resort. This is our flagship program is called the VIP program. And so what we do right away is we get you into biofeedback because we need to get your nervous system balanced. So, let's go back to nervous system.
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  So, when we have these, it can be little tiny thoughts, it doesn't matter, you know, you hear about microaggressions and ways, and these are like micro systems of autonomic nervous system dysfunction, where it's just a little shutdown. So, we need to be able to take care of that to the best of our ability. So, we help you with breath work and with biofeedback, so that we can get you into your parasympathetic, which is your rest digest and procreate state versus your fight or flight.
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  So, your rest digest procreate, we are cortisol comes down, which allows for women, our progesterone estrogen to be higher. So, those are our fertility hormones in men cortisol goes up testosterone goes down. So, the first thing we want to do is this is why people don't have sex, well, it is very couples don't have sex because they're stressed out and they're not in that right state and they yell at each other and then maybe one is on one day and one is on the other and they're not connecting at the same time when one is in rest and one is one isn't in rest and that just doesn't
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  it doesn't connect, especially when you have kids, you know, I think we're going to go all over the place and I think we should just move it and go from there because the other thing we teach is tantra, we teach intro to tantra, we have we are a couple's program in this, especially when you have infertility, a healthy way of using tantra, a healthy way of using, well, tantra is just the interweaving of yourself and basically it's a deep knowing and a deep connection with your own system so you can connect with your partner. This isn't Karma Sutra, we aren't teaching that we are basically doing eye gazing and breathing and synchrony and we help people in this space and you'd be
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  surprised how many people that have been married for 10 years, they've been together for the longest time can't look in each other's eyes so we are getting a level of intimacy together and we're also teaching eroticism so we're allowing you to not just have that intimate space of closeness but even with Esther Pearl's work if you're too close then you leave the erotic you've lose the erotic so we make sure you have both the intimacy and the erotic space so we're taking people who have now in infertility they're having sex as a job like doing the dishes and they're not in
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  enjoying it and then they look at their partner like is this really who I want to be with and they get further and further apart we're getting them closer and closer together we are trying to remind them that this is now for a purpose yes do have fun and they're having a lot of fun but make sure that you're also getting the sperm right needs to be if you don't mind me saying you know make sure that it's you're still having as much fun as you want to have but in the end we are actually doing this for a purpose which is the opposite of where most of these people with infertility at that it's like groundbreaking like hey yeah you know it's like it's a
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  duty I need to have kids especially I come from LDS land beautiful people I am not LDS but this duty this pressure to have more kids and their marriages are have a hard time and to hold up on images and so I see that really heavy and no I'm not blaming the faith I'm just saying that's a fact I mean I feel the pressure I there's a lot of my close friends and it it's really hurtful and then the women are pretty beat up too because they're not healthy and they're having all these children
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  and their their emotions are you know hormones are out of whack and they're just having a hard time and so I this is important stuff it is and what we are doing with these couples we are getting them connected so we also teach non violent communication which is
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  Marshall Rosenberg's work which is it doesn't have anything to do with violence it has to do with how to communicate that isn't triggering and we do a
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  mago dialogue training so basically instead of saying you made me feel this way and then the other person you know retracts and shame guilt or anger basically it's your
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  my partner we're in this together I'm feeling a certain kind of way I need your support and because you love me so much I can count on your
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  support here with me that's how my wife communicates to me it's perfect well that's why you have a wife and she's family that's how she
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  approaches me every time so like I love you weren't you're amazing but you know or and you know she doesn't and yeah and you know I
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  just want this to be better so can we work on this you know you doing this and how you communicate with me would you and then all my
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  shields are down but you know and then let's go there and of course I yeah of course I want to help you yes I want to be
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  better show me how to be better I love you yeah so those terms shields that really matter you to you that much so
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  of course yeah shields down versus armor up let's talk about that so armoring up is being in that place of
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  fighter flight quarters all goes up testosterone goes down progesterone estrogen go down this is something that we can
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  think of that it's just that mindset remember we're always with ourselves we can't remove it like BBA or
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  they lights or whatever it may be so we start in the very beginning with that we start with biofeedback
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  and then we start two weeks later we get you into hypnotherapy and hypnotherapy is a light hypnotherapy
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  it's something that we do group based and what we do is we address the primary baby blocks which can even be
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  you you wouldn't think this you know somebody who wants a baby we've been trying for five years
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  there is a baby block of when I bring a child into my life how am I going to have any freedom
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  mm-hmm we don't think that when we want a baby so badly but these are those thoughts that we've had or
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  our subconscious space even that thought like we said about so many couples and Utah have that all the
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  times like I'm gonna lose my freedom I can be able to travel I'm gonna be able to do rock climbing I'm
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  not gonna go skiing these outdoor things so therefore I am not going to have a child yeah that's
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  that and even when you say you want to and then you get to an age where you say okay I've done a
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  lot of it I still want to do more yeah but I'm 35 maybe we should have a baby now yes we probably
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  should because the clock is ticking so let's get started on that but the mindset doesn't go away
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  it doesn't go away we still have it so what we go in is we we go in and we break down those baby
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  blocks in a light hypnotherapy and then you listen to that for 21 days and it's monumental so when
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  we get you out of a fighter flight so fighter flight our our fertility hormones are off balance so
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  when we get you into rest digest and procreate that helps the balance we have all of these other
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  things we do too we have supplements that help balance your hormones we have supplements that help
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  increase testosterone of 40% for men and motility morphology and sperm count we have supplements that
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  take 70 to 90 day cycles and make them 28 day cycles in as little as six weeks so we have a
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  lot of supplement help and then we have our lifestyle modification all of the pillars that we have
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  though those are we do stress and that's where we put our relationship work and stress nutrition
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  and we have anti inflammatory low glycemic index nutrition plan that is high in nutrient content
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  for what we want for egg and sperm health we do exercise the appropriate exercise for men and
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  women who are trying to conceive we do sleep you guys do a lot we oh we do we do a ton and we do
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  all of our all of the main pillars but think about it when you are not trying to conceive maybe
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  it's a woman and we're going to a family reunion this summer and so I want to lose 10 pounds because
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  my family reunion is coming and you're like okay this is what most women think do I die it or do
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  I exercise doing both is going to be too much because it's too much to fit into your lifestyle
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  so when we want you to do all of these pillars and you know including the relationship work
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  we we need you to be okay in your mindset and in your your autonomic nervous system so we have
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  to regulate that first and then people can easily or more easily get into our program and we have
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  great success with that yeah so what I've what I've seen if you can't if someone doesn't have that
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  energy to break through to not be overwhelmed by all the changes it's like oh I'm doing so many
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  things wrong I need to do all these things if you can't get them to say yes I can right and that's
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  one of the hardest things like dealing with toxicity it's too overwhelming I'm going to do nothing
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  I'm just going to drink more wine right yeah that's it yeah and so I'm never going to have a kid
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  effort it's too much work they you present the program but if you can get someone to understand
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  that they have the power to do it that it's not it's a block it's a made up belief system that
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  isn't true you're way more powerful than you believe you're creative you're brilliant you're
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  beautiful you're kind you have all these things innately inside you they might not be currently
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  manifesting because you don't have the tools so what I've heard you say is like if you can
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  heal the relationship why would you bring if you don't have these relationship tools and then you
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  have a kid and then you have a second kid a third kid it can really undermine your relationship so
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  it took a lot of trial and error because we were just sticking to it and I'll credit my wife
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  reading books and how to communicate and some of the things that that I learned and introduced
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  into our relationship it was super powerful right not feeling guilty if she was mad at me I'm like
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  I did nothing wrong and you're mad at me and that's okay but I'm you know I'm not going to take
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  on your energy like so we can talk about this tomorrow but and if you can you know articulate
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  outside of this energy and and we'll come back to this but not allowing that control
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  codependent cycle to happen so the reason I say all that is if you can give at the foundational
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  level giving communication skills that really work not not what the therapist you know tells you
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  a lot of the time some therapists are great and they do have these same tools but wow what a
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  difference it made in our relationship what and what I love what you said there is you know
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  listening to her maybe waiting till the next day a lot of people don't think that they should
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  wait until the next day to have a conversation oh because I learned and I learned in Christianity
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  don't let your don't let your head be that and so I used to do that and so I would fight
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  late in the night when I was first married because I had this Christian belief that I needed to
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  to fight with my wife and so that we could go to sleep I literally had that bad belief yeah what a
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  junkie belief I doubt the scripture even meant that yeah but it was told from the pulpit and so
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  you believe the guy he never tested the guy it to be true you never made him read it in the
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  air make and look at the historical context and there's so much wisdom there yeah these are beautiful
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  books you know full of wisdom and and and God solutions but that that screwed me for like the first
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  year of my marriage yeah and it was it was it was 30 like we you know we went at it you know yeah
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  if it wasn't for the other belief that I had is that I knew as an adult because I got married
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  later in life I knew it was gonna be hard as work yeah I wasn't looking for her to to make me
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  happy I just knew it was gonna be really hard and she was a beautiful soul and we had a lot of
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  growing to do I saw her faults and I don't know she saw mine but I saw hers that she probably wouldn't
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  have married me she probably did but you know we we do accommodate and when we love someone
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  yeah you know what the other thing is I was saying this to my team recently we were at our we
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  have a yearly retreat we go away for three days we all go to the beach on Lake Huron and we have
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  a lovely time and I on our last day I said understand I love your quirks and faults the most of
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  all of you because seeing those otherwise we're if we're if we're pure souls everybody is light
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  and sunshine we know what that looks like yeah when you have a little something that kind of gets
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  you in a certain kind of way that's a part of you that I know I can love better when I love that
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  part of you better that's going to make you shine more and I don't even know how but isn't that
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  an exciting thought however I can love that little dark corner of you I get wait when I nurture
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  that piece of you to see how this shines yeah it's it's so powerful yeah I hope people catch that
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  because that is one of the foundations that I build my life on and many people think I'm crazy
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  if someone's abusing me like I don't accept I have enough energy to be like that poor soul yes how can
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  I love that part of them and I've shown my kids that and my wife and she'll she's like I don't know
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  how you do it is because I've learned somewhere along the line the the switch flipped on me and I'm
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  like wait a minute this is really what Jesus did you know historically whether you believe he's
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  the son or God or not that's what he did right and if that was a real principle whether it's a
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  prophet savior lunatic whatever you believe him to be he did that and it was effective historically
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  and I'm like that's what I want to do because I want to I think that's powerful let me see if it
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  actually works because the other way doesn't work right can I love this person for their quirks
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  for all this brokenness we just talked to Reagan about these abusive childhoods and how that
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  reflects up it's just that it's it's not really who they are it's not the reflection so how can I
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  love that piece and see how they transform and I've done it several times to some pretty nasty people
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  and not to the I've certain people I haven't should I haven't done it yet because I've been brave enough
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  because I'm still so scared I have some wounds still that I'm working through but wow
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  what a difference and and and you should see how they respond and sometimes it takes for one
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  individual took like two years of me just loving them and being kind and speaking into that darkness
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  and one of the things that my wife and I always say to each other it's like why would we fight
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  about these quirks because if I was gone or you were gone we'd miss those quirks the most exact
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  that's what I yes and knowing that you are each other's champion I think is so important especially
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  on a mission like fertility actually it's for everything but what I love about this being in the
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  fertility journey and fertility spaces it's before you have any disruptive to your old pulling
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  at your at your pant leg you know so we want you to be in that connection of community so start
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  with within your four walls with your partner then with your children then with your family
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  then with your coworkers then your community your society your globe and we are watching the
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  ripple effect happen happen right now we're watching couples so we have a couple who has a seven-year-old
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  daughter and they just have their baby with with us and she is learning those same skills that
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  were teaching to mom and dad they've embraced it fully the communication and then the husband had
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  a I believe was the husband's sister who came and stayed with them for a weekend and she learned
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  what they were doing she emailed them afterwards saying basically thank you for allowing me to be
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  seen and it's just ripple effect outside of their home he started a men's group on Saturday mornings
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  with men from church so basically what we're teaching is getting out there and causing that ripple
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  effect when we can start it here in the beginning of family and we can give that to our children
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  children are going to take that into schools they're going to take that with their friends and go
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  from there and I think the other point you made of the dark shadows I just want to point this out
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  when somebody comes at you and you feel it a certain way I encourage people to feel it yeah so like
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  in your body like if all of a sudden somebody you're having what you think is a normal conversation
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  and then they say something which is which is jarring notice that it's jarring it makes me sick
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  actually yeah see that's it I get physically sick I never used to until I have my healed my heart
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  I didn't feel any of that yeah but now isn't that interesting once you heal yourself you feel it
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  more as opposed to less so when people are feeling nothing I get sick from it that's exactly so
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  let's talk about that let's walk through that for a minute just just in this space fertility or not
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  so when people are feeling nothing and they're like I'm I'm solid I'm a I'm don't cold it doesn't
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  matter nothing affects me I'm thinking oh man you have so much work to do because you really need
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  to start feeling inside of your body and being in touch with your own self so when we feel sick
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  it's that whole feel that impact and this is what I do when I feel that impact with someone
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  I immediately stop some part of me stops for a minute don't don't react find a way to respond
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  right instead of just reacting right away I don't believe you do is because of the way that you work
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  with people you know but if we can stop from it it's my kids yeah oh chill Jenna we talk about my
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  daughter from this morning but let's not yeah so that's that's the main one that is that is it
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  life is pretty good you know that what it is it's basically something in them that struck a
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  chord especially when you're in a healing space as you are healing right until we're all constantly
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  doing that but when people are triggered because they don't want to be looking in the face the
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  fact that they aren't healing which is fine I mean we we find it when we find it when we need it
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  and when we are most in trouble I think because otherwise there's no way out but when you feel that
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  from someone it's so much easier now for me and I'm sure for you to understand that that's not mine
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  then historically before healing you feel that and you're like it's a shame spiral of your own you
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  feel badly so you don't realize it's their emotion being projected on you you think it's your own
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  so then you start ruminating or doing your own shame spiral from your own issues and then that
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  becomes more of a battle and I think that's what happens a lot when it comes to happens to people
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  all the time so now when we see somebody it gets you in a certain place in a certain way where you
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  feel it if you can say wow that person is suffering in a way and I don't know that's all you need
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  to say you don't need to actually investigate more unless you want to if it's someone close to you
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  you can you might already know or have an idea it might be something that has to do with old
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  wounding patterns or might be an argument they had with their mom this morning you never know
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  so that can be given a little grace as it's not yours and then it's up to you to choose how much you
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  want to be in that space how much do you want to invite that in to have a conversation to say
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  to have them you know when somebody does that armor up right we armor up let's try not to let's
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  try to shield down as you put it let's keep our shields down no matter what it feels like just keep
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  those shields down you feel the pain you do you feel the pain and then when you breathe in that
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  notice where it is in your body breathe in that space allow it to be there just sit in that space
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  and it will dissipate and this is part of the healing journey I I I met someone I won't say where
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  just recently and they start talking about you know how their business and the millions of dollars
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  that are making and like all that stuff and and I know them I and and they act like it's coming from
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  the right heart at least my perception based on what I see in their life and the the perception
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  that they give right and I want to get into details but when I'm a was around them I'll physically
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  sick after the conversation and I was happy and kind how you doing brother let's send a picture
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  let's I did all the things through just loving but it was pure effort to love them because
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  who they are and how they go about life I disagree with right by passing and so I but I I was
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  physically sick for about an hour and it passed right and I still love them right yes but being
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  around that energy that doesn't align with mine and it and it's okay right and this can be in any
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  conversation we have we could disagree like you can talk about all kinds of stuff that I might
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  disagree with and sometimes in podcasts I get physically sick I'm not going to judge it I'm going
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  to feel it I guess what I think it's sick at all during this podcast I'm getting energized during
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  this podcast yeah because I love I love what you're doing and so I let's let's just wrap this up
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  because we do got to finish up so foundationally right if I listen everything that you're doing
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  you're healing families starting with the the husband and wife teaching them how to have physical
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  connection and that's good so they're literally have their like our last baby was our love baby
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  because we were more we call our love baby because we were more mature right I mean all of our
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  children were yeah were intentional was was love and we never used protection we everything
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  was intentional optimizing DNA DNA transcription optimizing health of baby egg and sperm development
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  there was some data that came out November of 2023 saying that those of us with sub fertility
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  have a slight increased risk of autism so we and if you go into that that means good news it's not
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  the IVF drugs that are doing it it's the sub fertility that's doing it but then if you go into IVF
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  without a program like ours you're bypassing the egg and sperm health aspect so we bring that in
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  bring a couple into that connection and closeness so then they can do the nutrition plan together
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  support each other complain together you know they can exercise together they can say I don't want
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  to do it babe come on this is for the better you know the greater good this is for our baby and go
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  from there so we get them really in that connection get them through our pillars and they stay
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  there a lot to stand our community we have a community based group we have eight coaches three men
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  five women are men are mankind project leaders so they're all Jungian philosophy they help men
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  empower themselves take them out of that emasculated space of infertility and help them find their
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  own sovereignty we do the same with women community has demonstrated to be anti-inflammatory and so we
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  have a community that shows up all eight coaches show up day one for community-based whole community
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  with our couples come at the same time so there's so many people not in community right there's
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  not in community and communities anti-inflammatory blue zones look at blue zones if we we've learned
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  anything from well there's that's a whole we'll save it for another podcast yeah community was
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  taken from us yes from decisions you know from we I won't I won't you know name what I think it is but
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  so but Howard here's on a rabbit the biochemist just came out like man are you smart I mean you're
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  your mind is so sharp like I wish I wish I had that kind of power but I foundationally what I
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  want to leave everyone with is that you are healing couples communication everything happens
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  intentionally yes and it you're healing families ultimately which is what I really love when you
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  start here and you're giving people tools tools that once existed before you existed if we go back
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  to tribal communities all that ancient wisdom this is what there was the wise leader the the mama
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  who's been through this it knows how to deal with kids there's a lovely book written I don't remember
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  what it was but she went into all these ancient civilizations and how they raise their children
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  and it's the opposite of how the the husband and um wife interact how they train their children
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  it's completely different than what we've learned from these textbooks of people who never
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  knew how to raise children and didn't raise children and didn't have community didn't have families
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  so when I think about what you're saying you're getting every you're just going back to the
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  to ancient wisdom and the the energy the quantum techniques that have been given to us
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  through culture through time through heaven and and planting them back into families like a seed
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  that's growing healthy families healthy children that's having a ripple effect on society
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  to create healthy families and healthy humans so that we can have bring love and kindness
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  and be balanced once again as as a society because we are out of balance in America hands down
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  we are out of balance we are and it's foundational tools that have been lost and taken out because of
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  big money decisions it's all money driven mostly mostly not conspiracy even though the conspiracies
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  are driven by money and here you are a brilliant human with a brilliant legacy behind you
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  and taking it to the world I mean I just want to make sure that that emotion comes out because you
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  are so brilliant and I know that's what's underlying everything that you're doing because we've had
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  you know many conversations about this and I think that's one of my strengths is to really see
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  what I can see your vision like I look up above you and when you're talking you could quote studies
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  all day but when you're talking I see this beautiful vision of what you're doing and how it's
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  making this place a better world and how we're removing a massive toxin and I think the toxins that
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  I'm not going to so I'm going to guess for you mostly I say at the end of our show as I say
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  if I had a magic wand and there's a toxin that I could remove I'm going to guess it and then I
• 31:55
  want you to tell me but if I were to guess based on what I see coming out of you right now
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  it would be the toxicity of cultural poisons that have undermined families are health and our
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  society and the lost arts of what families and relationships and what families should look like
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  would be the one that I would see now you can use that one put it in your own words but if
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  I could wave a wand right that's just what I see if I could if I was you so that's just what I see
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  what would be the wand if you could wait I don't want to say a wand but if you could have the ability
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  to remove a toxin from this world what would it be yes I love how you put that I think it would be the
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  lot the loss of the connection all of those aspects that have lost the connection between people
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  so there you go yeah the root yeah is at the root is probably shame and that is you know inner
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  child looming the ways that we start that at a young age growing into this I'm bad I'm bad I'm
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  bad I'm not worthy I'm not worthy I'm not worthy and it becomes such a subconscious issue that even
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  the person that loves us most our champion our partner we can't communicate with them that person
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  who supports us most who we have the most to lose with we tend to pull away from that person in
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  that shame space and that if we didn't have that disconnect that you were mentioning that toxic
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  culture piece we wouldn't be there we wouldn't be there we would be able to find that connection with
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  our partner and have that that connection really do believe that so it really is that shame spiral
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  from from the we groom groom from a young age as people and the inability of society to actually
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  say it's okay this is normal you're worthy I love you and have that connect have that connect in
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  that space that's so beautiful what a great way to wrap it up thank you so much for being on
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  the show I can't wait to have you on again thank you so much Warren it was my absolute pleasure to be here