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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wow, Hey, everybody, Welcome to another edition of the NFL
- 0:13Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Show. Merry Christmas, everybody, It's me your Man MG.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Marcus Grant Joy by Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones. Merry Christmas, gentleman,
- 0:21Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. Hey, Merry Christmas. As you wear a hat
- 0:25Speaker 1: that says the Grinch on it, which, actually, you know
- 0:27Speaker 1: what sort of fits?
- 0:31Speaker 2: Come on, I gotta play the part, man, but I
- 0:34Speaker 2: think the Gritch is probably the best Christmas character. Like,
- 0:37Speaker 2: I'm not into Rudolph, I'm not really into frost Seed,
- 0:40Speaker 2: the snow Man.
- 0:41Speaker 3: Like.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Grinch is like top tier, like he's mister one.
- 0:43Speaker 3: Does that surprise anyone.
- 0:45Speaker 1: But that he's top Tier's favorite Christmas The Grinch got
- 0:51Speaker 1: so fed up with people he moved to the top
- 0:52Speaker 1: of a mountain together. Like I sort of understand it,
- 0:56Speaker 1: like I feel it. I see where you're going with
- 0:59Speaker 1: not the the tracks they did like they did, they
- 1:02Speaker 1: wronged him, they forced it, Like I get it, So
- 1:04Speaker 1: I'm not totally mad at the Grinch. Also, your mean one,
- 1:07Speaker 1: Mister Grinch is one of the all time great Christmas songs.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Just three minutes of just dumping on the port.
- 1:12Speaker 3: The original is why I heard it the other day
- 1:14Speaker 3: and like he gets called like a triple decker sour
- 1:16Speaker 3: kraut sandwich. I'm like, who thought of this? Inside, I will.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Touch you with a thirty nine and a half foot poll.
- 1:21Speaker 1: I mean that's just a marsh Anyway, we hope to
- 1:25Speaker 1: be less harsh as we help you out with your
- 1:27Speaker 1: fantasy championships. Into Week seventeen, we got plenty to talk about.
- 1:30Speaker 1: We will have starts and six for this final week
- 1:33Speaker 1: of the fantasy season. Plus we're going over every.
- 1:36Speaker 3: Game on the Sunday and Monday slates, and we're giving
- 1:38Speaker 3: you our.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Sleepers for the week. I actually not sleep We're gonna
- 1:41Speaker 1: give you our club dubs for the weeks. What it is,
- 1:43Speaker 1: our twenty plus non QB players. That's what we're doing. So,
- 1:47Speaker 1: as always, going to start with the startups and cittams.
- 1:49Speaker 1: You can read those written by Michael F. Florio at
- 1:51Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash start Sit. We'll begin at the
- 1:54Speaker 1: beginning with the quarterback position, Floria, who.
- 1:56Speaker 3: Are your starts for the week? Where are your sits
- 1:58Speaker 3: for the week? Look, the Cowboys aren't going to be
- 2:00Speaker 3: winning any championships this year, but their fantasy managers are.
- 2:03Speaker 3: I think Dak is a must start against the Commanders
- 2:06Speaker 3: this week. I love Brock Purdy this week. I'm playing
- 2:09Speaker 3: him myself in a championship game over Caleb Williams. Trevor Lawrence.
- 2:14Speaker 3: He's been red hot and it is a great matchup
- 2:16Speaker 3: against the Colts. I think Lawrence could go down as
- 2:19Speaker 3: the fantasy playoff MVP this season. And then Jacoby Brissett,
- 2:22Speaker 3: if you survived last week, you set it and forget it,
- 2:25Speaker 3: as Marcus has dubbed, because the Bengals are a fantastic matchup,
- 2:29Speaker 3: but they should be in ketchup mode to the Cardinals
- 2:31Speaker 3: that is. And then the sis goff is more of
- 2:34Speaker 3: a situational thing. It depends on your options. I know
- 2:37Speaker 3: quarterback is thinning out, but that is a matchup I
- 2:39Speaker 3: want to avoid. Ideally one passing touchdown allowed by the
- 2:43Speaker 3: Vikings since Week ten. Justin Herbert is just a straight
- 2:45Speaker 3: sit for me. I know last week was great against
- 2:47Speaker 3: the Cowboys. This is the toughest matchup for quarterbacks. In
- 2:50Speaker 3: his five prior games before he got Dallas, he was
- 2:53Speaker 3: fewer than fifteen fantasy points. Baker Mayfield, the Dolphins could
- 2:57Speaker 3: be ran on. They've been tougher to throw the ball against,
- 2:59Speaker 3: and he just hasn't played well. And then Bryce Young
- 3:02Speaker 3: we were talking about it a lot because I have
- 3:04Speaker 3: to decide if I want to start him or not
- 3:05Speaker 3: in a super flex. Bryce Young does weird things in
- 3:08Speaker 3: tough matchups, but Seattle is about one of the toughest
- 3:11Speaker 3: matchups you can get.
- 3:12Speaker 1: I mean literally, like the last couple of weeks, Bryce
- 3:14Speaker 1: Young has had good matchups and he's been mediocre at best.
- 3:18Speaker 1: But then you're like the the good matchups or the
- 3:22Speaker 1: tough matches rather he shows up any balls out. So
- 3:24Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect from Bryce Young. But
- 3:29Speaker 1: Lakwan Trevor Lawrence, dude has been on fire and it's
- 3:33Speaker 1: another good matchup. I mean, the Colts have been getting
- 3:36Speaker 1: lit up. He's just got lit up by Brock Purty.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in a good spot right here.
- 3:41Speaker 2: I mean, how beautiful would it be that, you know,
- 3:44Speaker 2: Sir William Trevor Lawrence wins me my championship because he's
- 3:50Speaker 2: been red hot the last four games fourteen touchdowns, zero interceptions.
- 3:54Speaker 2: They have been winning these games because of the confidence
- 3:57Speaker 2: just at the confidence level being so high, you have
- 4:00Speaker 2: Brton strange making place. You have Parker Washington going completely
- 4:03Speaker 2: bonkers last week. Jakobe Myers was probably the best ad
- 4:06Speaker 2: for any any type of like past deadline ad as
- 4:10Speaker 2: a trade deadline move for the team for simple fact
- 4:13Speaker 2: that you still have Brian Thomas Junior in the fold
- 4:15Speaker 2: as well being such a deep threat. So there's so
- 4:17Speaker 2: many dynamics to this offense of why Trevor is bawling
- 4:21Speaker 2: right now? I can't wait for the end of the
- 4:23Speaker 2: season to wrap up, and I can say Trevor Lawrence
- 4:26Speaker 2: can now be called te law.
- 4:28Speaker 1: I mean, you can say that now, Like no is
- 4:31Speaker 1: stopping you from saying that now except your own stubbornness.
- 4:34Speaker 2: I just said, if he wins me my championship, because
- 4:37Speaker 2: I am starting him in my championship matchup, I will
- 4:40Speaker 2: say this, I will say Tee law for the rest
- 4:43Speaker 2: of the time that he is on the Jacksonville Jaguars.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Through mean one, mister Jones, come on, man, you gotta
- 4:50Speaker 2: finish strong man. There's still time to disappoint. Let's not
- 4:52Speaker 2: act like the game is all wrapped up and the
- 4:54Speaker 2: season's over. Championship needs to come home before he earns
- 4:58Speaker 2: full respect.
- 4:59Speaker 1: It's true, you did like you did cut off Odell Beckham, right,
- 5:02Speaker 1: you said that you basically had like one bad game
- 5:04Speaker 1: or whatever in the playoffs and you're like, I'm.
- 5:06Speaker 3: Done with him forever. Like that was like, yeah, that
- 5:09Speaker 3: was it.
- 5:09Speaker 2: It was a quiet injury that he could have played through. Yeah,
- 5:11Speaker 2: I understand those for the Giants. And then he was
- 5:13Speaker 2: shipped off to Cleveland the very next year, so there
- 5:15Speaker 2: was no reason to ever draft him again.
- 5:17Speaker 3: I told you guys, Nichola came up to me the
- 5:18Speaker 3: other day. I was like, I'm not drafting Josh Allen anymore.
- 5:20Speaker 3: After his bad game. I was like, he's the best
- 5:22Speaker 3: fan and she was like, he's not a good quarterback.
- 5:24Speaker 3: I was like, okay, but she's angry because he got
- 5:27Speaker 3: six points out of him. So I get it. Just
- 5:29Speaker 3: just you know, just so much hate in your heart, man,
- 5:31Speaker 3: Like you just got it.
- 5:32Speaker 1: This is not this This is the season to let
- 5:35Speaker 1: that hate go. Man, This is the season of love
- 5:37Speaker 1: and giving and like, you know, you gotta get your
- 5:39Speaker 1: heart to grow three times the size, yeah, man, Like,
- 5:42Speaker 1: get your hid to go? Can Gerard go three sizes?
- 5:44Speaker 1: On Sunday, another one revealed just real quick. Jared Goff,
- 5:48Speaker 1: Like what do you make of Jared Goff, Because you know,
- 5:51Speaker 1: like he's had some tough matchups that the Steelers weren't
- 5:54Speaker 1: the easiest matchup he ended up getting like twenty five points.
- 5:57Speaker 1: This is a really tough one though, in a game
- 5:59Speaker 1: that the Lions have to have though.
- 6:01Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why I think it's very option dependent.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Like I in the article too, I say, like, look,
- 6:06Speaker 3: I would be sitting golf if you have Lawrence or
- 6:09Speaker 3: Purty or Persett, which are all starts, which I think
- 6:11Speaker 3: is a very realistic scenario. Tyler Shuck is one that
- 6:15Speaker 3: I've gone back and forth on. But if you're in
- 6:17Speaker 3: a situation where like quarterback is really thinning out, I'm
- 6:20Speaker 3: not grabbing like Kirk Cousins and playing him over or
- 6:24Speaker 3: cam Ward the streaming options that we like this week, Like,
- 6:26Speaker 3: I'm not playing them over Jared Goff. I'm not playing
- 6:29Speaker 3: like Baker over him. I have one league where it's
- 6:32Speaker 3: between Jackson Dart and Jared Goff. I'm kind of leaning
- 6:36Speaker 3: Jared Goff. But that kind of shows you the range
- 6:39Speaker 3: where like he's not a must start, but he's not
- 6:40Speaker 3: a must sit. It's very option based.
- 6:43Speaker 1: It's funny the way we've all cooled on Jackson Dart
- 6:45Speaker 1: by the way too, Like.
- 6:47Speaker 3: It directly correlates to when they fired Brian Dable, Like
- 6:50Speaker 3: that is when Jackson Darts train kind of just went
- 6:53Speaker 3: off the rails.
- 6:54Speaker 1: It was so much fun until all of a sudden
- 6:56Speaker 1: it wasn't and so he just all moved.
- 6:59Speaker 3: It got scared real quick. Yeah.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Interesting, it was always scary. It just suddenly consequences happened,
- 7:05Speaker 1: right Like We're like, oh, like, you can't just keep
- 7:08Speaker 1: running out there and like smashing into people and things
- 7:11Speaker 1: like without there being consequences. And they were all like, Okay,
- 7:14Speaker 1: it's not it's not fun anymore sort of thing. Anyway,
- 7:18Speaker 1: what is fun is running backs. Running Backs are fun,
- 7:20Speaker 1: especially starts and sins of running backs. Who's up Who's down?
- 7:22Speaker 3: This week? R J. Harvey is just an absolute must
- 7:25Speaker 3: start right now. Since the bye week he has been
- 7:27Speaker 3: incredible And I know the Chiefs are a tough matchup
- 7:30Speaker 3: on paper for running backs. I think game script is
- 7:32Speaker 3: heavily on his side, and I think they run the
- 7:34Speaker 3: ball a ton Ashton gents. If you survived much of
- 7:38Speaker 3: the year with him, he is going to win a
- 7:40Speaker 3: lot of people championships. I think the Giants are the
- 7:42Speaker 3: best matchup for running backs. I don't think it's even close.
- 7:46Speaker 3: And gamescript it's not really a game where I'm worried
- 7:48Speaker 3: about them being down so much that they had to
- 7:50Speaker 3: get away from GENTI Kenneth Gainwell six weeks. In the
- 7:54Speaker 3: last six weeks, he's averaging over six targets per game
- 7:57Speaker 3: and nineteen Fantasy points per game. Like, I don't think
- 7:59Speaker 3: he's gotten enough love for how good he has been
- 8:01Speaker 3: consistently for the last month and a half. And then Stevenson.
- 8:05Speaker 3: We heard today that Treveon was in a red non
- 8:08Speaker 3: contact jersey. I think they're going to practice caution, and
- 8:10Speaker 3: if they do, Stevenson is a top twenty running back
- 8:13Speaker 3: with RB one upside the sis Breis Hall. Look, he's
- 8:17Speaker 3: averaging six yards per game. When Brady Cook starts, they're
- 8:20Speaker 3: not throwing him the ball. The Patriots limit big players,
- 8:23Speaker 3: so you can't really rely on that. I want no
- 8:25Speaker 3: part of Breese Hall. Rico Dwell. The usage for the
- 8:29Speaker 3: Panthers backfield has fluctuated a lot. The Seahawks are really
- 8:32Speaker 3: tough against the run as well. Woodie Marx, I know
- 8:36Speaker 3: the Chargers for much of the year were bad against
- 8:38Speaker 3: the run, but in the last month they've actually allowed
- 8:41Speaker 3: the fewest rushing yards to running backs. And Marx gets
- 8:44Speaker 3: a lot of volume when he's out there, but he
- 8:46Speaker 3: hasn't really turned it into big fantasy days. And then
- 8:49Speaker 3: the Saints running backs, I want no part of it.
- 8:51Speaker 3: If you're playing anyone from the Saints backfield, it should
- 8:53Speaker 3: be Taysom Hill at tight end.
- 8:55Speaker 1: You're really pushing this Taysom Hill agenda.
- 8:57Speaker 3: And I just if you had a flex adrics to
- 9:00Speaker 3: make Taysom Hill or Evan Hull. You're telling me you're
- 9:02Speaker 3: not going Taysom Hill.
- 9:03Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but like it's just like you know,
- 9:07Speaker 1: you have Candy Corner rotten egg nog, Like what do
- 9:09Speaker 1: you what are you asking.
- 9:10Speaker 3: Me if you're in the championship with the brock Bauers
- 9:14Speaker 3: or George Kittle, like some Hill might be the best
- 9:16Speaker 3: option on your waiver wire.
- 9:18Speaker 1: I know, Like I look, I have George Kittle.
- 9:20Speaker 2: I don't want to win that way.
- 9:22Speaker 3: You'd rather lose without taste. I don't want to win
- 9:26Speaker 3: that way. I don't have that level of pride. I
- 9:27Speaker 3: will I will win however it comes.
- 9:29Speaker 1: I will win however however I can win by any
- 9:32Speaker 1: means necessary, nasty like I might feel queasy about it,
- 9:35Speaker 1: but I will I will hoist the trophy.
- 9:36Speaker 3: I do not care.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Lukawi would be weird if I like, just like you know,
- 9:43Speaker 1: hummed some Kenny g while you talked about Kennedy Gainwell.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Right now, he no, he needs some love like Florio
- 9:48Speaker 2: hit the nail on the head. Not enough love is
- 9:51Speaker 2: being focused on his back. That would as Marcus jlms like,
- 9:56Speaker 2: I really look at Kenneth Gainwell right like when we
- 9:58Speaker 2: were talking about him the summer. We're hearing all the
- 10:00Speaker 2: reports from the beat writers in the fantasy streets. This
- 10:03Speaker 2: guy's lining up in the slot. He's getting a lot
- 10:05Speaker 2: of receiving work. We saw exactly why he was doing that.
- 10:08Speaker 2: Look at the hands, my guy, look at the hands,
- 10:12Speaker 2: the focus that he brought that ball in and for
- 10:14Speaker 2: that to count. He is leading guys to the Fantasy Championship.
- 10:17Speaker 2: I'm telling you now, I want Kenneb Gamewell over a
- 10:20Speaker 2: lot of options that are even in the starts right now.
- 10:23Speaker 2: Kenneb Gamewell is on a hot streak right now, a
- 10:26Speaker 2: top ten running back in the last four weeks. Man,
- 10:28Speaker 2: we have to really lock him in this week, no question.
- 10:31Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean jeniking Will has been bad.
- 10:34Speaker 1: What was great last week is that both Gainwell and
- 10:37Speaker 1: Jalen Warren were able to eat together.
- 10:38Speaker 3: So that was fun. And my home league, my opponents
- 10:41Speaker 3: started both of them. I won, but he started both
- 10:43Speaker 3: of them against me, and I was freaking out during
- 10:46Speaker 3: that second half, which is a really questionable maneuver, but
- 10:49Speaker 3: it worked out. Going in, I'm like, all right, cool,
- 10:53Speaker 3: and then they got fifty points.
- 10:55Speaker 2: I wouldn't recommend it, but it worked out. That was
- 10:58Speaker 2: an ugly run by Jalen wall Like. It was one
- 11:00Speaker 2: of those things like, oh he's down, wait, hold up
- 11:03Speaker 2: what it looks nasty, but he gets it off and
- 11:06Speaker 2: that's kind of what he does every single week.
- 11:10Speaker 1: That, like, would there be a certain host on a
- 11:12Speaker 1: morning show on this network would be.
- 11:13Speaker 3: Upset because our producer is the same producer as that,
- 11:16Speaker 3: and Quap's on boards. All right, cool, let's go it
- 11:20Speaker 3: all works out.
- 11:21Speaker 1: I was like, we gotta write this down somewhere so
- 11:22Speaker 1: we don't forget it between now and like next August
- 11:24Speaker 1: or something like that.
- 11:25Speaker 3: Ugly runs is what we're gonna do.
- 11:27Speaker 1: I do want to ask you for about Breese Hall
- 11:29Speaker 1: and not so much about this week because I wouldn't
- 11:31Speaker 1: start him either.
- 11:32Speaker 3: It's bad, Like I do think we've maybe.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Overvalued Breese Hall in the past, but also I feel
- 11:38Speaker 1: like this year is not a Breeze Hall issue. It's
- 11:40Speaker 1: it's a coaching issue. Like they're they're not giving him
- 11:42Speaker 1: targets and I don't understand it.
- 11:43Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I don't know why they're not throwing him
- 11:45Speaker 3: the ball. I understand why he's not having his usual
- 11:47Speaker 3: explosive runs, especially as of late, because there's no Garrett Wilson.
- 11:51Speaker 3: Brady Cook is the quarterback. Like, yeah, you're if you're
- 11:54Speaker 3: playing them, you're just gonna be like stop twenty and
- 11:56Speaker 3: we we win this game. But he's a free agent
- 11:59Speaker 3: this year, so it really is going to depend where
- 12:02Speaker 3: he ends up. But yeah, I'm I think I'm done
- 12:05Speaker 3: with the pushing him up to be in RB one
- 12:08Speaker 3: kind of days. But I think he could be an
- 12:10Speaker 3: art of rock solid RB two that has weekly RB
- 12:13Speaker 3: one upside in the right offense.
- 12:15Speaker 1: I want him to go somewhere Lakwan where he can
- 12:17Speaker 1: sort of have like a like a Javonte Williams kind
- 12:20Speaker 1: of rebound. Right, he goes to a team where like
- 12:23Speaker 1: you know, obviously it's not working out with the Jetsy.
- 12:25Speaker 4: I have no we like Javonte there, try to bully.
- 12:29Speaker 4: Davonte is very much a volume type of guy though,
- 12:34Speaker 4: like Breese is better.
- 12:36Speaker 3: So what he got the gig man, he's doing great
- 12:39Speaker 3: with it. Don't do that.
- 12:41Speaker 2: No, we like Javonte Williams again, what.
- 12:43Speaker 3: About what about Kansas City? That's the that's the pie
- 12:46Speaker 3: in the sky landing spot.
- 12:48Speaker 2: That's what I was screaming and pounding the day before
- 12:51Speaker 2: during the trade deadline, like chee, if you need a
- 12:53Speaker 2: running back, go get yourself some Breeze. He's motivated, he
- 12:56Speaker 2: wants to be paid. This guy can work out of
- 12:58Speaker 2: the backfield. I know we had Brischard's myth there, but
- 13:01Speaker 2: he's not getting that much uses from Matt Naggi being
- 13:03Speaker 2: a pass catcher out of the backfield in Pachecko. He's
- 13:06Speaker 2: just kind of been Pacheco like of what we've known
- 13:09Speaker 2: after the injury. So it's like, I don't understand why
- 13:11Speaker 2: they didn't go after Breeze aggressively. But hey, I mean
- 13:14Speaker 2: maybe next year that's where he will probably end up.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to know somewhere that will use
- 13:18Speaker 1: his talents. I mean he's on part on pace for
- 13:20Speaker 1: fifty one targets this year.
- 13:22Speaker 2: I mean him and audured estimate in the last four
- 13:25Speaker 2: games have the same amount of receptions. Just let that
- 13:28Speaker 2: sit real quick.
- 13:29Speaker 3: Yeah, they're using Isaiah Davis over him, like it in
- 13:32Speaker 3: the passing game. It doesn't make sense.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Well, he got some juice, he looks explosive.
- 13:36Speaker 3: I like him, but but he's not Breeze.
- 13:38Speaker 1: He's not Breeze Hall, He's not. So I got some
- 13:41Speaker 1: more starts and says coming up later on in the show.
- 13:43Speaker 1: Gonna take a quick break. We will come back with
- 13:45Speaker 1: our week seventeen previews, getting into these Sunday and Monday games.
- 13:49Speaker 1: That and plenty more coming on the NFL Fantasy Football Show.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Got a full Sunday of action and a few interesting ones.
- 14:00Speaker 1: I know, you know, there's some interesting games going on
- 14:02Speaker 1: on I can say on Thursday, but let's you know,
- 14:04Speaker 1: keep it a buck. The Christmas Day games maybe not
- 14:07Speaker 1: what we hope they were gonna be. Saturday games maybe
- 14:09Speaker 1: some interest, but Sunday definitely some intrigue there. Or start
- 14:12Speaker 1: with these Seahawks and the Panthers and Florio Choosher fighter
- 14:17Speaker 1: on this one, Sam Donald or Bryce Young.
- 14:21Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Bryce Young only because I might
- 14:23Speaker 3: I might end up starting in the league, and I
- 14:25Speaker 3: want to put that positive energy out. The thing is, though,
- 14:29Speaker 3: I actually do like Bryce for fantasy more than Sam Darnold,
- 14:32Speaker 3: because Donald has a couple of big games here or there,
- 14:36Speaker 3: but he just oftentimes doesn't really have to put up
- 14:40Speaker 3: numbers because of the way Seattle plays their defense scores.
- 14:44Speaker 3: They hold teams to a lot of not to a
- 14:47Speaker 3: lot of points. So, like you go through his game block,
- 14:49Speaker 3: he has a lot of games with less than five
- 14:51Speaker 3: Fantasy points and you just simply cannot. Like, since week
- 14:55Speaker 3: ten he has three games with less than five Fantasy points,
- 14:58Speaker 3: you just simply cannot. And Bryce Young has been running
- 15:02Speaker 3: more as of late, which has elevated that floor.
- 15:04Speaker 1: Yeah, the interception bug has come back to get Sam
- 15:08Speaker 1: Donald lately, and that's always first place, Sam Donald, first place,
- 15:11Speaker 1: Sam Donald, Yeah, first place in the NFC West, Sam Donald,
- 15:15Speaker 1: I would say, usc Sam Donald has shown back up
- 15:17Speaker 1: the guy who will like throw some picks in the
- 15:19Speaker 1: first half, but then figure out a way to sort
- 15:20Speaker 1: of rally you late and get wins.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Look, MG's wearing UCLA colors today, Hey, look at you.
- 15:28Speaker 3: Welcome to the club man. Daguars and Colts. Jaguars and
- 15:34Speaker 3: Colts intriguing one in the AFC South where the Jaguars
- 15:39Speaker 3: are red hot. They are streaking the Colts sinking like
- 15:43Speaker 3: a rock right now and trying to just cling onto
- 15:46Speaker 3: anything to save their playoff hopes, which are fading quickly.
- 15:51Speaker 3: I know, the big story of the kwand around the
- 15:53Speaker 3: Colts the last few weeks has been Philip Rivers and
- 15:55Speaker 3: coming back to play.
- 15:56Speaker 1: And that's all fun and cute and well and good,
- 15:58Speaker 1: But for fantasy, I'm going to need a Jonathan Taylor
- 16:01Speaker 1: vibes check from you.
- 16:04Speaker 2: I mean, look, the Jaguars are hot right now, and
- 16:06Speaker 2: so is that defense. They're one of the toughest, you know,
- 16:08Speaker 2: run defensives out there. I mean, they're top of the table.
- 16:10Speaker 2: And I really look at Jonathan Taylor really suffering because
- 16:13Speaker 2: of Philip Rivers running out of the gun more often
- 16:16Speaker 2: than not being under center. So therefore that kind of
- 16:18Speaker 2: takes Jonathan Taylor out of his element. Like the checkdowns
- 16:21Speaker 2: are cool, but we would need them more at a
- 16:23Speaker 2: higher rate, Like right now we're seeing Philip Rivers with
- 16:25Speaker 2: the Whiners last week airing that ball out as much
- 16:28Speaker 2: as he could. So I look at this with Jonathan Taylor.
- 16:30Speaker 2: It's going to be a tough matchup. You're not sitting him,
- 16:32Speaker 2: but it's one of those things that he's gotten you
- 16:34Speaker 2: to the big dance. You just have to trust and
- 16:36Speaker 2: believe that this guy is going to go out there
- 16:38Speaker 2: at least put up more than fifteen Fantasy points. That's
- 16:41Speaker 2: all we need from Jonathan Taylor in the PPR leagues.
- 16:44Speaker 2: You can sit tight with the checkdowns and hopefully he
- 16:46Speaker 2: busts one of those things off. Because one of the
- 16:48Speaker 2: things that Johnson Taylor possesses, as we can see, he
- 16:51Speaker 2: is very explosive and he is hard to bring down.
- 16:53Speaker 2: So those are one of the things that you could
- 16:55Speaker 2: paint the picture and you could sit nice and cozy.
- 16:57Speaker 2: I would say on this Sunday, coming out of the
- 17:00Speaker 2: Nansty Championship.
- 17:01Speaker 1: I'm worried about Jonathan Taylor so badly. I mean, like
- 17:05Speaker 1: I get it, like you can't get away from him,
- 17:08Speaker 1: right because you've been relying on him. He's been so good.
- 17:10Speaker 1: But man, just I don't know, man, it's bleak. It's
- 17:14Speaker 1: bleak for JT. This week against Jacksonville.
- 17:19Speaker 3: Buccaneers at the Dolphins.
- 17:22Speaker 1: I don't we were worried about Jalen Wattle with Quinn
- 17:25Speaker 1: you Weers at quarterback. I wouldn't watch that game. Quen
- 17:27Speaker 1: Newers made some really nice throws make I'm not gonna
- 17:30Speaker 1: sit here and tell you that he's a quarterback of
- 17:32Speaker 1: the future. I'm not going to try to pretend that
- 17:34Speaker 1: he made some nice plays and Jalen Wattle had a
- 17:36Speaker 1: nice game.
- 17:37Speaker 3: So does this mean against the Bucks that Jaylen Wattle's
- 17:39Speaker 3: back in play? I feel very similar to how Elk
- 17:44Speaker 3: was just talking about Taylor. But obviously Waddle isn't at
- 17:46Speaker 3: Taylor's level, but like you probably have to play him,
- 17:50Speaker 3: like he had nine targets last week, like you said
- 17:51Speaker 3: he had twelve Fantasy points in PPR. Like that's a
- 17:54Speaker 3: solid floor game. And the thing is the Bucks really
- 17:57Speaker 3: struggle against the past, but surprisingly they been tough against receivers.
- 18:01Speaker 3: It's tight ends and running backs that have eaten against
- 18:03Speaker 3: them in the passing game. But still I expect the
- 18:06Speaker 3: Dolphins being ketchup mode in this game. Wattle is the
- 18:09Speaker 3: clear cut top target, so you'd have to have a
- 18:12Speaker 3: pretty good option to get away from him. But it's
- 18:15Speaker 3: still just because it's yours. It's still a little part
- 18:18Speaker 3: of me that's just like a little hesitant about going
- 18:20Speaker 3: all in on Jalen Waddle. You know, yeah, I mean
- 18:23Speaker 3: I get that.
- 18:24Speaker 1: I mean I know we were all like, hey man,
- 18:26Speaker 1: don't throw it to Darren Waller because he's just a
- 18:27Speaker 1: big old target. And that's kind of what happened. There.
- 18:30Speaker 1: Was very surprised at how much work Jalen Wattle got
- 18:32Speaker 1: and like I said, I'm gonna stay and stand on this.
- 18:34Speaker 3: He made some good throws, he made some interesting plays.
- 18:37Speaker 1: They're still gonna look for a quarterback in the offseason,
- 18:40Speaker 1: like that's still priority number one for the Dolphins. But
- 18:43Speaker 1: it was not as bad as I you know, he
- 18:45Speaker 1: didn't have a touchdown, but he threw for two sixty
- 18:48Speaker 1: you know, better than I expected. Right, that's all better
- 18:51Speaker 1: than expected. Looking at the Eagles and the Bills, which
- 18:55Speaker 1: a really interesting game on paper, And as we take
- 18:59Speaker 1: a look at the first touchdown odds, a quartering to
- 19:01Speaker 1: Cazar Sports Book, James Cook and Saquon Barkley the top
- 19:05Speaker 1: two odds right there, followed closely by the two quarterbacks
- 19:08Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts. They have equal odds there
- 19:11Speaker 1: than AJ Brown, rounding out the top five, So I
- 19:14Speaker 1: had no real surprise. Florio is someone who has a
- 19:17Speaker 1: vested interest in this game. Cook, Barkley, Allen Hurts, AJ Brown,
- 19:21Speaker 1: all real legitimate options.
- 19:22Speaker 3: Who do you like best there? I'm gonna go with
- 19:24Speaker 3: the Bill, of course. I'm gonna go with James Cook actually, though,
- 19:27Speaker 3: because I think I'm a little hesitanting if we're gonna
- 19:30Speaker 3: see Josh run as much. Remember early I know it's
- 19:33Speaker 3: later in the year. It's different now, but earlier in
- 19:35Speaker 3: the year where Josh banged up his nose in Week one,
- 19:38Speaker 3: they consciously stopped running him, especially near the goal line
- 19:42Speaker 3: and stuff, and they didn't want him taking those hits.
- 19:44Speaker 3: But I do love that they were just like Cook, Barkley,
- 19:47Speaker 3: Allen hurt let's give the quarterbacks and running backs the
- 19:49Speaker 3: same odds like so I kind of get it. I
- 19:52Speaker 3: respect that.
- 19:52Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it kind of makes sense to me with
- 19:54Speaker 1: everything that's happening there. Laqual When you look at this game,
- 19:58Speaker 1: the Bills we know have not been very good against
- 20:01Speaker 1: the run. We've targeted them with running backs all year long.
- 20:04Speaker 1: The numbers against wide receivers though, have been very good.
- 20:09Speaker 1: We know that Philly at times, their passing game kind
- 20:13Speaker 1: of drives the struggle bus. Are you worried about the
- 20:15Speaker 1: Eagles wide receivers this week?
- 20:17Speaker 3: Oh?
- 20:17Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm worried every single week. But I think aj
- 20:20Speaker 2: Brown is the one that you can trust that they
- 20:21Speaker 2: throw it that bat signal on. It's more so looking
- 20:23Speaker 2: at this Bill's defense, they're the second best defense against
- 20:26Speaker 2: the pass. So therefore this can turn an easily a
- 20:28Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley run game. This can easily turn into a
- 20:31Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts running out of the pocket. More often than not,
- 20:34Speaker 2: these guys are not going to be able to separate.
- 20:35Speaker 2: But I think if you're looking at a Devonte Smith,
- 20:38Speaker 2: I would be very very cautious of putting him into
- 20:40Speaker 2: starting lineups because I'm not sure if Jalen Hurts is
- 20:43Speaker 2: going to be able to support both these guys. Where
- 20:45Speaker 2: we're on fan and watch, where I'm obviously rooting for
- 20:47Speaker 2: a Dallas Goddard this game. This could be a Dallas
- 20:49Speaker 2: Gotter game that he becomes the security blanket, being that
- 20:52Speaker 2: they're going to have more matchups in his favor to
- 20:54Speaker 2: get him going.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like it's one or the other like,
- 20:59Speaker 1: it can't be both.
- 21:01Speaker 3: In my opinion, it's always two of the three.
- 21:03Speaker 2: So it's yeah, can you imagine Gotham with two Batman's
- 21:07Speaker 2: out at night, like, and you see what I'm saying, Like,
- 21:09Speaker 2: obviously one of them are going to be the fraud,
- 21:11Speaker 2: Like somebody's gonna be wearing the hockey pads and somebody
- 21:13Speaker 2: wearing the real thing.
- 21:14Speaker 3: I would be much more afraid of jacked Batman than
- 21:17Speaker 3: skinny Batman.
- 21:17Speaker 1: All I know is that just unhoused people with mental
- 21:22Speaker 1: health issues should be were in a town with two batmen,
- 21:25Speaker 1: That's all I know. Clowns, clowns that were dress shoes,
- 21:30Speaker 1: clowns that wear suits and dress shoes should be on
- 21:32Speaker 1: the lookout all the time.
- 21:33Speaker 2: Hey, joker, be fresh, though I don't know where he shot,
- 21:36Speaker 2: but that woy be fresh. Sometime.
- 21:37Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're a joker, you probably have
- 21:39Speaker 1: somebody on standby that makes clothes for you. You're not
- 21:42Speaker 1: walking into the men's warehouse and just getting a suit.
- 21:45Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. On the other side, Florio as
- 21:49Speaker 1: the Bill's homer here on this show, Daltington Kaid or
- 21:53Speaker 1: Dawson Knox, either neither or both.
- 21:55Speaker 3: Ideally, I think neither is in this one. It's possible
- 21:59Speaker 3: that they could have big games because this could be
- 22:02Speaker 3: a high scoring, back and forth kind of game. But
- 22:04Speaker 3: this is the hardest matchup for them because the only
- 22:07Speaker 3: team that has allowed more I mean less fantasy points
- 22:10Speaker 3: per game to tight ends are the Bills, and they
- 22:12Speaker 3: can't face themselves, so they will never have a harder
- 22:14Speaker 3: matchup than this one against the Eagles last week. I
- 22:17Speaker 3: know the Bills were playing from ahead. They didn't throw
- 22:19Speaker 3: a bunch, but they had three targets combined, and with
- 22:22Speaker 3: Dawson Knox getting more involved, it has really taken some
- 22:25Speaker 3: of the shine away from Kincaid. Plus I just want
- 22:29Speaker 3: to point out Sunday in Buffalo, they're expecting rain, it
- 22:33Speaker 3: could turn the snow. There's wind, so deep an eye
- 22:37Speaker 3: on that game and the weather there. If it's really windy,
- 22:40Speaker 3: maybe that leads to more targets for the tight ends
- 22:42Speaker 3: because they're short or quicker. But yeah, ideally, I don't
- 22:45Speaker 3: think I wanted to play either of them.
- 22:47Speaker 1: A game that means absolutely nothing in terms of the
- 22:51Speaker 1: real NFL season, but could me in a whole health
- 22:54Speaker 1: lot in terms of fantasy. The Cardinals at the Bengals.
- 22:59Speaker 1: There's so many guys, Lakwan that we are starting on
- 23:01Speaker 1: either side.
- 23:02Speaker 3: Right.
- 23:02Speaker 1: You can start the quarterbacks, you can start the wide receivers.
- 23:06Speaker 1: You're absolutely starting Trey McBride. Would you start a Cardinals
- 23:10Speaker 1: running back? And if so, which one?
- 23:13Speaker 2: Michael Carter like even though he didn't get as many
- 23:15Speaker 2: opportunity as he did in Houston where he had eighteen
- 23:18Speaker 2: and then we look at last week, it was one
- 23:20Speaker 2: of those things. He was running very well on the ground,
- 23:22Speaker 2: like they just didn't keep going to him. I don't
- 23:24Speaker 2: know why, but I will feel comfortable starting him against
- 23:26Speaker 2: the Bengals, where that's their weak point. We've been bullying
- 23:29Speaker 2: the Bengals all season long, plugging all our running backs.
- 23:33Speaker 2: I wouldn't get cute and thinking otherwise if I'm down
- 23:36Speaker 2: a bunch of running backs. Being that i lost Quinn
- 23:38Speaker 2: Shawn Jenkins last week, Michael Carter looks like the shining
- 23:41Speaker 2: star and my starting lineups in a favorable matchup against
- 23:44Speaker 2: the Bengals.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Any worries that suddenly Murray de Mercado starts getting more
- 23:48Speaker 1: touches this week.
- 23:50Speaker 2: I mean he's there. I mean he's a guy there,
- 23:52Speaker 2: But it's not like he's over there playing better than
- 23:55Speaker 2: Michael Carter. Like again, like this is a backfield that
- 23:57Speaker 2: they feel comfortable handing the ball of to any them,
- 24:00Speaker 2: but Michael Carter has been getting served as the workhorse.
- 24:03Speaker 2: Like again, I go back today Houston game where I
- 24:05Speaker 2: was just completely thrown off. I was really surprised that
- 24:08Speaker 2: he came out of that game with four point zero
- 24:10Speaker 2: yards for Carrie on eighteen opportunities. Like he was actually
- 24:13Speaker 2: a nice solid flex play that week. So I look
- 24:16Speaker 2: at last week kind of like a it went against
- 24:18Speaker 2: the game plan where he still put up decent yards
- 24:20Speaker 2: on the ground where he still was serviceable. He was
- 24:23Speaker 2: still a fishing so he did his part. It was
- 24:25Speaker 2: just more so they just didn't give him more opportunities
- 24:27Speaker 2: in this matchup. I can definitely see they lean more
- 24:30Speaker 2: on the run, being that that's where they're going to
- 24:31Speaker 2: get most of their pop.
- 24:33Speaker 1: All right, So Michael Carter did play there for the Cardinals,
- 24:37Speaker 1: Like I still have a roster with James Connor just
- 24:41Speaker 1: sitting there on ir Like, I just wanted to keep
- 24:43Speaker 1: him there for team morale, you.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Know, I just wanted that veteran.
- 24:45Speaker 1: I had that with Cam skataboo, that veteran presence in
- 24:48Speaker 1: the locker room.
- 24:49Speaker 3: You know, I just fantasy roster right decies needed that
- 24:54Speaker 3: veteran presence.
- 24:55Speaker 1: There's all I need.
- 24:56Speaker 3: That's I respect it, you know.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Heading over to the AFC, the Steelers had the Cleveland
- 25:01Speaker 1: to take on the Browns. Michael left Florio, could you
- 25:05Speaker 1: give me a projection on what Harold Fannin can do
- 25:07Speaker 1: this week?
- 25:08Speaker 3: I think Trey McBride needs to watch out because that
- 25:10Speaker 3: tight end one crown might not be safe. When Fannin
- 25:12Speaker 3: drops one hundred, then nah. But he I really think
- 25:15Speaker 3: he's having a big game. I think he's having a
- 25:17Speaker 3: big game this week. One look at the numbers since
- 25:22Speaker 3: Schadora has come in. He's got over It's like a
- 25:24Speaker 3: twenty five percent targets share, all the air yards, he's
- 25:26Speaker 3: getting the end zone targets now as well. He's got
- 25:29Speaker 3: a touchdown in what three of his last four games,
- 25:32Speaker 3: two last week. And on top of that, the Steelers
- 25:35Speaker 3: have allowed the third most fantasy points and the second
- 25:38Speaker 3: most touchdowns two tight ends this year. If it wasn't
- 25:41Speaker 3: for the Bengals being absolutely trash against tight ends, we
- 25:44Speaker 3: would talk a lot more about the Steelers being a
- 25:46Speaker 3: great matchup for them and to stream against them and stuff.
- 25:48Speaker 3: But I think he has a big game and I
- 25:51Speaker 3: think our good friend Lawan Jones needs to hit up
- 25:56Speaker 3: the ma all this weekend because that hair's turning blonde.
- 26:00Speaker 1: We had a graphic of the the tight end standings
- 26:04Speaker 1: as they currently are in fantasy football to show where
- 26:08Speaker 1: Harold Fannon is.
- 26:09Speaker 3: Okay, can we put that up right now?
- 26:12Speaker 1: So you see Harold Fannon is there at number six,
- 26:15Speaker 1: who's just below brock Bauers, who, by the way, brock
- 26:19Speaker 1: Bauers just went on injured reserve, so he's done for
- 26:22Speaker 1: the season. So so Bowers is at five what is it?
- 26:27Speaker 1: At five points? I believe, ahead of one ahead, one
- 26:32Speaker 1: point ahead of Harold Fannon. I'm sorry, Dallas Goddard is
- 26:36Speaker 1: hanging around there point one points behind Fannin, so he
- 26:40Speaker 1: could you know, it wouldn't be crazy for Goddard to
- 26:44Speaker 1: jump Fanning, but Fannin should jump brock Bowers unless something
- 26:48Speaker 1: really weird happens. You know, we'll see after you know, Christmas,
- 26:53Speaker 1: what happens with.
- 26:54Speaker 3: Five behind Kelsey and even less than that for Ferguson.
- 26:57Speaker 3: So it's right there for the taken.
- 27:00Speaker 1: So like Strawberry Blonde, platinum blonde, were going like a silverb,
- 27:07Speaker 1: what are we thinking?
- 27:08Speaker 3: What are we thinking this year?
- 27:09Speaker 2: I'm thinking strawberry blonde matches the brand. But I would
- 27:12Speaker 2: say this, man, I am rooting usually for Dallas gotdter
- 27:16Speaker 2: like this is a game, but I just needs him
- 27:18Speaker 2: to go out there and go bokers because I told
- 27:20Speaker 2: you guys before the show started, I'm facing Dallas Godder
- 27:23Speaker 2: in my championship. So it feels a little icky, a
- 27:25Speaker 2: little weird rooting for him. But for the sake of
- 27:28Speaker 2: my hair color, yeah, I'm all Dallas.
- 27:31Speaker 1: Goddard this weekend. I'm waiting for you to start rocking
- 27:34Speaker 1: Kelly Green jersey or something like that this weekend to
- 27:37Speaker 1: be like that.
- 27:38Speaker 3: We're going that far. Okay, No, okay, I figures where
- 27:42Speaker 3: the shot.
- 27:43Speaker 1: Speaking of teams that wear green, the Jets hosting the
- 27:45Speaker 1: Patriots this week, Licuan, would you start any Jets? Is
- 27:49Speaker 1: there any Jet that you would consider starting? In fantasy football?
- 27:54Speaker 2: It's tough and like, I can't say that I had
- 27:56Speaker 2: a lot of Jets, you know, players on my rosters
- 27:59Speaker 2: in the playoff, even in the championship right now. So
- 28:02Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable with this Patriots defense. I do
- 28:05Speaker 2: feel like, you know, if you have Bristol, that's probably
- 28:08Speaker 2: your best bet at running back. If you have a
- 28:10Speaker 2: Ady Mitchell. It's been cool at times, but at other
- 28:12Speaker 2: times that floor is as scary as I've talked about before,
- 28:15Speaker 2: with the broken tiles, the roaches and stuff. I don't
- 28:18Speaker 2: think that I feel comfortable with any Jet in my
- 28:21Speaker 2: starting lineup against his Patriots defense.
- 28:24Speaker 1: Just again, we talked about Breese Hall earlier and just
- 28:27Speaker 1: how things have gone bad for him, Like, I can't.
- 28:30Speaker 1: I can't With Ady Mitchell.
- 28:32Speaker 3: I can't.
- 28:33Speaker 1: And it's just, you know, with the quarterback situation being
- 28:36Speaker 1: what it is, Brady Cook there, I can't do it.
- 28:39Speaker 3: Yeah, I get Yeah.
- 28:41Speaker 2: Like if if I made the championship and let's just
- 28:44Speaker 2: say a hypothetical or like let's just imagine this universe
- 28:47Speaker 2: that Garrett Wilson was still playing and he was still
- 28:49Speaker 2: playing as a wide receiver too, then yeah, he obviously
- 28:52Speaker 2: would be the only much start. But I don't trust
- 28:54Speaker 2: like a John Metche or Ady Mitchell with a Brady Cook, like,
- 28:57Speaker 2: it just doesn't seem like you can bully any these Jets,
- 29:00Speaker 2: you know, players into your starting lineups, you should probably
- 29:03Speaker 2: want to get away from them, especially in this matchup
- 29:05Speaker 2: where everything is on the line. It's do or die, folks, Like,
- 29:07Speaker 2: let's not get all crazy and paint these pictures that
- 29:10Speaker 2: we think that Ady Mitchell can put up that high
- 29:12Speaker 2: target share in that high fantasy ceiling that he is
- 29:15Speaker 2: shown at times with better in Solt for matchups like,
- 29:18Speaker 2: I just don't want to play that game this week.
- 29:20Speaker 1: Was it one of those things where you know, again
- 29:21Speaker 1: if this were a week eight, Week nine matchup, like
- 29:25Speaker 1: you can sort of play that game and you can
- 29:27Speaker 1: take that risk. But the here the reward because the
- 29:30Speaker 1: ceiling for Mitchell is not high enough I think to
- 29:33Speaker 1: outweigh the risk of what you're more likely going to get,
- 29:35Speaker 1: which is, you know, like five points or something like that.
- 29:38Speaker 3: Like it just it just doesn't the.
- 29:40Speaker 1: Math is in mathing on that situation, which, by the way,
- 29:43Speaker 1: this should be a segment we do next year.
- 29:45Speaker 3: The math isn't mathing. It could just be the thing
- 29:47Speaker 3: that we do.
- 29:49Speaker 1: Saints at Titans. Boy, I'm gonna ask you again to
- 29:52Speaker 1: choose your fighter here, Tyler Shuck or Kim Ward.
- 29:56Speaker 3: I do want to say I like Kim Ward if
- 29:58Speaker 3: you're like in a deeper streaming city situation. Multiple passing
- 30:01Speaker 3: touchdowns in three straight games, I'm I think the tape
- 30:04Speaker 3: shows that he is a very good player, but I'm
- 30:06Speaker 3: going with Tyler Shuck here. Tyler Shuck has seventeen or
- 30:09Speaker 3: more Fantasy points in four straight and five of his
- 30:12Speaker 3: last six. That is a safe consistent floor. He is
- 30:16Speaker 3: running more, he's throwing the ball well downfield as well,
- 30:18Speaker 3: like right there, eighth highest completion percentage on passes with
- 30:22Speaker 3: ten or more air yards. And the Titans have been really,
- 30:26Speaker 3: really good against the run as of late in factor,
- 30:28Speaker 3: allowing the fewest yards before contact to running backs in
- 30:31Speaker 3: the last five weeks. But you could throw on them.
- 30:34Speaker 3: So the Saints have no running game right now already.
- 30:37Speaker 3: I expect to see a good amount of airing the
- 30:39Speaker 3: ball out in this one. So give me Tyler Shuck there.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think I lean Shuck, but I
- 30:44Speaker 1: just you know, I've been wanting to give Cam Moore
- 30:46Speaker 1: his profits because he's been improving. He's been improving as
- 30:49Speaker 1: the season goes along. I'm very curious to see what
- 30:51Speaker 1: the Titans do around him this offseason. But you know,
- 30:55Speaker 1: the progression has been there for him for sure. As
- 30:58Speaker 1: the season has gone along, the Giants at the Raiders
- 31:01Speaker 1: mentioned Brock Bauers on injured reserve, so his season is over.
- 31:05Speaker 1: Last week, Lakwan Ashton Genty shocked all of us with
- 31:08Speaker 1: what he did against the Houston Texans. Now, on paper,
- 31:12Speaker 1: the Giants matchup seems to be a good one, but
- 31:14Speaker 1: for the last month they've actually did pretty good against
- 31:16Speaker 1: running backs. Can Genty do it again? Find an offensive
- 31:19Speaker 1: line that admittedly has not improved, it's still bad. Can
- 31:23Speaker 1: he do something similar to what he did last week?
- 31:26Speaker 2: I would say you probably do something similar. I don't
- 31:29Speaker 2: think he would get that huge bang for your butt
- 31:31Speaker 2: last week, which again nobody in the fantasy streets were
- 31:34Speaker 2: starting Ashton Genty against the Texans. But this guy almost
- 31:37Speaker 2: went out there and put up almost two hundred scrimming
- 31:40Speaker 2: yards and as you could see him to be a
- 31:41Speaker 2: role my guy was out there catching long passes. My
- 31:43Speaker 2: guy was actually getting loose in between the tackles. Like
- 31:47Speaker 2: looking at Ashton Genty on my bench last week was so, so,
- 31:50Speaker 2: so painful because your boys started Quinn, Shawn Jenkins and
- 31:54Speaker 2: Kamane Badal, where Ashton Genty is sitting on my bench putting.
- 31:57Speaker 3: Up a thirty burger.
- 31:58Speaker 2: So I do think we get something similar to that, because,
- 32:01Speaker 2: like how you mentioned, the Giants have actually been buckling
- 32:03Speaker 2: down on some of these running backs. But I think
- 32:05Speaker 2: him coming in with so momentum, with such a great
- 32:08Speaker 2: game of last week, I hope that Genty can go
- 32:10Speaker 2: out there and win some folks to fantasy championships. For
- 32:13Speaker 2: those who believed in him last week.
- 32:14Speaker 3: I mean, look, this is why you spent probably a.
- 32:18Speaker 1: Late first round, early second round pick on him. He
- 32:21Speaker 1: hasn't quite lived up to that. But Ashton Genty has
- 32:24Speaker 1: the chance to do the funniest thing.
- 32:25Speaker 3: Yes he does. And while we're talking about this game,
- 32:28Speaker 3: I did just see that the Giants left tackle and
- 32:31Speaker 3: center looking like they're not like they're not practicing today.
- 32:34Speaker 3: The Giants are being like, we see your brock Bowers
- 32:36Speaker 3: and will raise your whole whole line. But it's very
- 32:39Speaker 3: much so something you need to factor in for Jackson
- 32:42Speaker 3: Dart and your Giants players.
- 32:43Speaker 1: If we just abolish the draft, we don't have this
- 32:45Speaker 1: race to the bottom at the end.
- 32:46Speaker 3: Of the season.
- 32:47Speaker 1: While where everybody's just trying to like I'm just market started.
- 32:50Speaker 1: I'm just putting That's all I was gonna say on it.
- 32:52Speaker 1: I'm just putting it out there. Anti American, right, it's
- 32:54Speaker 1: anti American. Drafts are on American. They absolutely are on Christmas.
- 33:01Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's Christmas. Grinch, come on, you want
- 33:05Speaker 1: this hat, I'll give it to you. Look, the Grinch
- 33:07Speaker 1: was just spinning facts to save me.
- 33:09Speaker 3: If they made a Grinch remix about getting rid of
- 33:11Speaker 3: the drafts, one person you will see it. I would,
- 33:14Speaker 3: I would be I would get a writing.
- 33:15Speaker 1: Credit at least, I would hope or something like that.
- 33:18Speaker 1: So uh, anyway, that's that's all I got on that.
- 33:22Speaker 3: Time for a break.
- 33:23Speaker 1: But when we come back, we'll finish up our starts
- 33:25Speaker 1: and since with wide receivers and tight ends, plus preview
- 33:28Speaker 1: these Sunday and Monday night games and.
- 33:30Speaker 3: We'll hit Club Dub for you.
- 33:35Speaker 1: All.
- 33:36Speaker 3: Right. Back to our.
- 33:36Speaker 1: Starts and since for Week seventeen, looking at the wide
- 33:39Speaker 1: receiver position, Florida, who do you like? Who do you
- 33:41Speaker 1: not like?
- 33:41Speaker 3: This week? Look, I think you continue to ride some
- 33:43Speaker 3: hot hands like Chris o'lave has been amazing and the
- 33:46Speaker 3: Titans matchup, he's been great. Since Tyler Schuck has kind
- 33:49Speaker 3: of taken over. But the Titans matchup is also a
- 33:51Speaker 3: really good one. A Ze Flowers obviously, I like him
- 33:54Speaker 3: a lot more with Lamar, but I do think this
- 33:56Speaker 3: is a favorable matchup. The Packers play a lot of
- 33:58Speaker 3: Zone fifth highest rate action and Flowers is the go
- 34:01Speaker 3: to guy against that coverage. DJ Moore again riding the
- 34:04Speaker 3: hot hand here. It's looking like we're not gonna have
- 34:06Speaker 3: Roman Dunsay again. And if you watch Monday Night you saw,
- 34:09Speaker 3: and really any forty nine Er games since like Week five,
- 34:12Speaker 3: you've seen that that defense cannot stop anyone. And then
- 34:15Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers, I don't know why he keeps getting overlooked
- 34:18Speaker 3: as he is. He is such a safe floor clear
- 34:20Speaker 3: upside there and the Cults are a great matchup for receivers.
- 34:24Speaker 3: Jamison Williams a lot like Jared Goff. For me, this
- 34:26Speaker 3: is more of a beware a situational thing. It depends
- 34:29Speaker 3: on your options. I have a league where I'm playing him,
- 34:32Speaker 3: a league where I'm sitting him, and then a third
- 34:34Speaker 3: league where I don't know what I'm doing with him.
- 34:36Speaker 3: Rashid Rice actually was just placed on IR when we
- 34:38Speaker 3: started taping this, so forget about him. Lad McConkie. Look,
- 34:43Speaker 3: I know last week was fun against the Cowboys. This
- 34:44Speaker 3: is one of the toughest matchups for receiver, and he
- 34:46Speaker 3: is fewer than five points in three of his last
- 34:49Speaker 3: five and then a mecha Abuka. We showed like a
- 34:53Speaker 3: b roll of him on Fantasy Live today and it
- 34:55Speaker 3: was just him dropping passes. So that's not what you
- 34:58Speaker 3: want to see for someone that you might play in
- 34:59Speaker 3: the Fantas the Championship not so great.
- 35:02Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Dj Moore Lakwan has come to life at a
- 35:04Speaker 1: point where you've just sort of written him off. It
- 35:06Speaker 1: has helped that guys like Romo Dunes, they have not
- 35:08Speaker 1: been there. But do you believe in Dj Moore against
- 35:11Speaker 1: the forty nine ers this week?
- 35:13Speaker 2: Yes, getting the game ball and the praise from your
- 35:15Speaker 2: quarterback and your head coach. Like you look at Dj
- 35:17Speaker 2: Moore these last three weeks. He's been solid. He's been
- 35:20Speaker 2: a guy that you can flip flip into your flex position.
- 35:23Speaker 2: Like I look at Dj Moore as a guy that
- 35:24Speaker 2: I was like benching all these weeks because I had
- 35:27Speaker 2: better options. I just couldn't trust his floor. But now
- 35:29Speaker 2: that he's being utilized as the wide receiver one now
- 35:32Speaker 2: He's being utilized in his versatility, being all over the
- 35:35Speaker 2: offense like I love seeing him being targeted deep downfield
- 35:38Speaker 2: and then also being utilized out of the backfield or
- 35:41Speaker 2: on the screen. It's like one of these things where
- 35:42Speaker 2: Dj Moore he should have been used like this all
- 35:45Speaker 2: season long, especially against the Whiners. I hope he liked
- 35:48Speaker 2: you guys. Oh so, I cannot wait to see Dj
- 35:51Speaker 2: Moore bring home the championship for a lot of fantasy managers.
- 35:54Speaker 1: All right, moving on to the side end position. Your starts, Yeah,
- 35:57Speaker 1: I'm ignoring engage. I'm not.
- 36:00Speaker 3: It starts in such a tight end this week, Florio
- 36:03Speaker 3: exactly how we all drew it up. Four years ago,
- 36:05Speaker 3: three years ago, two years ago. Kyle Pitts as a
- 36:08Speaker 3: league winner on Monday Night Football. I'm so excited because
- 36:11Speaker 3: I have him in my home league championship. Him and Puka.
- 36:14Speaker 3: I can't wait for that. Harrow fannin junior. We've already
- 36:18Speaker 3: spoke a lot about him, Hunter Henry. I know there
- 36:21Speaker 3: was a stretch in the middle of the year where
- 36:22Speaker 3: he was a forgotten man, but as of late they've
- 36:24Speaker 3: been throwing him the ball more. It's a good matchup.
- 36:26Speaker 3: And then Darren Waller in the last month. The Bucks
- 36:29Speaker 3: are the best matchup for tight ends. They allow a
- 36:31Speaker 3: lot of touchdowns, so I think that keeps him in
- 36:33Speaker 3: play as a streaming option. I'm sitting Travis Kelce because
- 36:36Speaker 3: everyone else is on ir for the Chiefs. The Broncos
- 36:39Speaker 3: are gonna be like, if we stop eighty seven, we
- 36:41Speaker 3: win this game. Tyler Warren, I know they're trying to
- 36:45Speaker 3: get him the ball at a high rate hasn't really
- 36:47Speaker 3: led to a lot of fantasy success as of late.
- 36:49Speaker 3: Kolbe Parkinson. The Rams have three tight ends and you
- 36:52Speaker 3: just never know which one they're gonna throw the ball to.
- 36:54Speaker 3: And then Abel Barner. I know last week he had
- 36:56Speaker 3: a big game, but those have been few and far
- 36:58Speaker 3: between this year, and the floor is very very low. Yeah.
- 37:01Speaker 1: I want to look at that Tyler Warren on that one, Lakwan,
- 37:04Speaker 1: because if you got points for hospital balls thrown by
- 37:10Speaker 1: some of the rivers, then you're loving life with Tyler Warren.
- 37:14Speaker 1: But the fact that he has had fifteen targets over
- 37:17Speaker 1: the last two games and he's turned that into league
- 37:19Speaker 1: six catches for less than fifty yards. This this feels
- 37:23Speaker 1: like scary scary time. If you're starting Tyler Warren, right.
- 37:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 37:27Speaker 2: I hope that some of the fantasy managers out there
- 37:29Speaker 2: kind of had a backup plan and jumped to the
- 37:31Speaker 2: waiver ward these last couple of weeks, because it's been
- 37:33Speaker 2: hard watching Tyler Warren in starting lineups and like Rivers
- 37:37Speaker 2: is trying his best, trying to get him the ball,
- 37:39Speaker 2: but the chemistry isn't there, the timing isn't there right,
- 37:42Speaker 2: Like we're seeing him being utilized very close to the
- 37:44Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, Like his receiving yards for target is
- 37:46Speaker 2: at three point three with Rivers right now. That is
- 37:49Speaker 2: not going to get you anywhere near the chunkyards he
- 37:51Speaker 2: was getting with Daniel Jones. As we're watching Dan Jones
- 37:54Speaker 2: drop the ball off to Tyler Warren, like it's one
- 37:56Speaker 2: of those things where it's like you gotta stay ready, man,
- 37:59Speaker 2: you got to jump on the way and get some
- 38:00Speaker 2: of these Bretton strangers of the world, right try to
- 38:03Speaker 2: get some of these other tight ends that were on
- 38:04Speaker 2: the wayward these last couple of weeks, because you've seen
- 38:07Speaker 2: the production with him and Rivers and it has not
- 38:09Speaker 2: been great. So I am not starting him whatsoever in
- 38:13Speaker 2: a Jacksonville Jaguars defense being that there could be, you know,
- 38:16Speaker 2: some favorable matchup for a Josh Downs that takes the
- 38:19Speaker 2: place of Tyler Warren, who's been the underneath guy. So
- 38:21Speaker 2: I'm actually piving two other tight ends in this matchup.
- 38:24Speaker 1: That's just so weird because Josh Downs is getting the
- 38:26Speaker 1: underneath work, but like his his yardage totals aren't enough
- 38:29Speaker 1: to get you excited, and if he doesn't score a touchdown,
- 38:31Speaker 1: you really get nothing.
- 38:33Speaker 3: Alec Pierce came.
- 38:33Speaker 1: Out of nowhere, but I don't think anybody believes that's sustainable.
- 38:36Speaker 1: And then like he can't really get to Tyler Warren
- 38:38Speaker 1: and Michael Pittman consistently.
- 38:40Speaker 3: It's just them. I do love their strategy though, of
- 38:43Speaker 3: like Rivers just throw that moon ball as far as
- 38:46Speaker 3: he can and one of our receivers will out jump
- 38:47Speaker 3: a dB Like I mean, that's kind of what it is. Now.
- 38:50Speaker 1: It's kind of rough watching him make a whole body
- 38:52Speaker 1: throw just to get the ball, like.
- 38:53Speaker 3: He threw on the run the other day.
- 38:55Speaker 2: Do you guys know what I'm about to say? Like,
- 38:58Speaker 2: do you know the quarterback that I'm about to yell
- 38:59Speaker 2: right now? Can we all say it together? Riley Leonard
- 39:04Speaker 2: put him in and then you'll get some fantasy production
- 39:07Speaker 2: for Tyler Warren.
- 39:08Speaker 3: But he can't throw the deep ball either, and he's
- 39:10Speaker 3: not forty five.
- 39:11Speaker 1: Also, the fact that he still can't force his way
- 39:13Speaker 1: onto the field outside of garbage time is probably telling.
- 39:16Speaker 3: They were like, we have Riley Leonard, but we could
- 39:18Speaker 3: get great river side.
- 39:20Speaker 2: The last time they played the Jags. In the three quarters,
- 39:23Speaker 2: he looked good. He looked better than Sir William, Like
- 39:25Speaker 2: almost called him mid but he was still William at
- 39:28Speaker 2: that time. But give Riley Leonard a chance, man, give
- 39:30Speaker 2: him a half. Geez, he'll get the Texans if the
- 39:33Speaker 2: Colts lose this week. Oh yeah, that's a great match.
- 39:37Speaker 3: Up for him.
- 39:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 39:37Speaker 3: Thanks nice, Thanks guys, good luck all.
- 39:41Speaker 1: Right, as we get ready to wrap up our Week
- 39:44Speaker 1: seventeen previews start with Sunday Night Football the Bears at
- 39:47Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers. You can see that game, of
- 39:48Speaker 1: course on Sunday Night. As the title of the show suggests,
- 39:51Speaker 1: Loyer anybody that you would not start in this game, which,
- 39:55Speaker 1: by the way, a quick update too that is necessary
- 39:58Speaker 1: to know. George not practicing on Wednesday. Kyle Shanahan says
- 40:02Speaker 1: he has a chance to play in week seventeen if
- 40:04Speaker 1: you believe in Kyle Shanahan.
- 40:06Speaker 3: That sort of thing.
- 40:07Speaker 1: Also, Ricky Piersall limited in practice on Wednesday.
- 40:10Speaker 3: That's one I might not play Ricky piersaal like I'm
- 40:13Speaker 3: playing Rock Party. I'm obviously CMC. I think Juwan Jennings
- 40:16Speaker 3: is highly highly underrated, like he should be out there.
- 40:20Speaker 3: Caleb is in play, but I do think Caleb is
- 40:23Speaker 3: much more option dependent. Like in the one league, I
- 40:26Speaker 3: have Caleb on two championship teams. One is a two
- 40:28Speaker 3: quarterback league where I'm very weak at quarterbacks, so I'm
- 40:31Speaker 3: playing him. The other I have Rock Purty and I'm
- 40:32Speaker 3: playing Rock Purty over him. I'm playing DeAndre Swift. I
- 40:36Speaker 3: think Kyle Mannung Guy is an option based flex. DJ
- 40:39Speaker 3: Moore is a start for me. Polston Lovelan is kind
- 40:41Speaker 3: of opt So I'm much more higher on the Bear
- 40:43Speaker 3: on the forty nine er side than the Bear side,
- 40:45Speaker 3: But I do think a lot of the Bears are
- 40:47Speaker 3: also in play.
- 40:47Speaker 1: I would definitely, you know, I think I like DeAndre Swift,
- 40:50Speaker 1: Kamanung Guy. I'm sort of just because Paul Yume is
- 40:53Speaker 1: kind of the thing there, But a lot of the Bears.
- 40:56Speaker 1: I would be in on that one too. Monday Night
- 40:58Speaker 1: Football the Rams and the Falcons a big one for
- 41:02Speaker 1: the Rams in.
- 41:02Speaker 3: A couple of instances, LaQuan.
- 41:04Speaker 1: Obviously they are still chasing the one seed, you know,
- 41:08Speaker 1: trying to lock up the NFC West.
- 41:10Speaker 3: That's on their play.
- 41:11Speaker 1: But also the Rams beating the Falcons helps the Rams
- 41:14Speaker 1: draft position because they have the Falcons draft pick here.
- 41:17Speaker 1: But I want to ask you about the Falcons side
- 41:21Speaker 1: of it. I know how you feel about the Rams.
- 41:22Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you about that. Drake London.
- 41:25Speaker 1: Drake London was not great last week for fantasy. It
- 41:28Speaker 1: was a Kyle Pitts day. Do you think there's a
- 41:30Speaker 1: Drake London bounce back this week?
- 41:34Speaker 2: He's still limited in practices, like they're taking it easy
- 41:36Speaker 2: with him with that PCL because again, why risks you know,
- 41:39Speaker 2: a setback in pretty much where the season is over
- 41:42Speaker 2: and affects him this offseason. Like I do think him
- 41:44Speaker 2: playing limited snaps last week, that kind of was the
- 41:47Speaker 2: message that we're putting out there in the fantasy streets.
- 41:49Speaker 2: Don't expect Drake London to come back to that first
- 41:52Speaker 2: round talent that we've seen, you know, last year, and
- 41:54Speaker 2: I feel like you know, folks, with this matchup, I
- 41:57Speaker 2: wouldn't be trying to sneak him in against a Rams
- 41:59Speaker 2: defense either. I think him limited on snaps, him being
- 42:02Speaker 2: limited in practice should be a huge red flag for
- 42:04Speaker 2: you not trying to take this gamble. So whoever you
- 42:07Speaker 2: had as his replacement to get you to the big dance,
- 42:10Speaker 2: I probably will lean on those options.
- 42:12Speaker 3: But I need Drake London.
- 42:16Speaker 2: It's not like the folks that are at my DMS, like, oh,
- 42:18Speaker 2: we need Devonte Adams. No, we need him for football
- 42:21Speaker 2: in February. And I think that the Falcons would agree.
- 42:24Speaker 2: They'd rather have him healthy going into this next season.
- 42:28Speaker 3: Yeah, we're nine months from next season to get ready. Like, yeah,
- 42:32Speaker 3: it makes sense for DeVante because they have playoffs. The
- 42:34Speaker 3: Falcons have nothing for the next nine months.
- 42:37Speaker 1: But I also need Davonte, so why.
- 42:38Speaker 3: Play him at all? Players get paid though, based on
- 42:41Speaker 3: availability and stats, And.
- 42:44Speaker 2: Okay, play Drake London, you guys win.
- 42:47Speaker 1: This is a whole different conversation for a whole different show.
- 42:50Speaker 1: It's time to see who will deliver, presented by Uber Eat,
- 42:53Speaker 1: and it is time put on your silk shirt, put
- 42:57Speaker 1: on your really smelly body spray, we're gonna club dub.
- 43:02Speaker 1: You got the guys, the non quarterbacks who can score
- 43:05Speaker 1: you twenty points this week. So Lakwan who gets behind
- 43:09Speaker 1: the velvet ropes in Week seventeen?
- 43:11Speaker 2: Rimandre Stevenson, and I think this is one of the
- 43:14Speaker 2: things where he's going under the radar. This is a
- 43:16Speaker 2: favorable matchup against the Jets where they're allowed the fifth
- 43:19Speaker 2: most rushing yards per game to the running back position.
- 43:22Speaker 2: So we're looking at Ramondre Stevens to be plugged in
- 43:24Speaker 2: for a huge game. Limited snaps last week and still
- 43:27Speaker 2: had a great fantasy outing, So I'm looking for him
- 43:30Speaker 2: to explode as the starting running back. If Trayvon Henderson
- 43:34Speaker 2: is not ready to go where he puts up a
- 43:36Speaker 2: Bundy burger, let's go Vermandre.
- 43:39Speaker 1: I like this a lot. I mean if with no Travion,
- 43:41Speaker 1: I think Vermandre absolutely eats this week. Lrio, who's your
- 43:44Speaker 1: club dub.
- 43:45Speaker 3: Look, I mean, you guys left the layup out there.
- 43:47Speaker 3: I'm gonna take it the only tight end that I
- 43:49Speaker 3: think I feel comfortable ever projecting your twenty plus point
- 43:52Speaker 3: game for it. Fami Bride Right, he gets the Bengals
- 43:55Speaker 3: who will have the most catches, yards, touchdowns, fantasy points
- 43:58Speaker 3: too tight ends. It's three hundred more yards in any
- 44:00Speaker 3: other team, five more touchdowns than any other team. And
- 44:03Speaker 3: I joked about this on Fantasy Live, but it's a
- 44:05Speaker 3: fantasy tail as old as time. Right, all you one
- 44:07Speaker 3: seeds that had Trey McBride that lost to five seeds,
- 44:10Speaker 3: you are going to watch your boy put up twenty
- 44:13Speaker 3: twenty five thirty points this week and be like, if
- 44:16Speaker 3: he did that last week, I would have won, and
- 44:18Speaker 3: I would have won in a champion Yeah, you didn't
- 44:20Speaker 3: make it, but the teams that didn't survive it, they're
- 44:22Speaker 3: probably gonna win a championship.
- 44:24Speaker 1: I mean, if some butts were candy and nets, we
- 44:26Speaker 1: don't have a merry Christmas. Min is gonna be the
- 44:30Speaker 1: von Ai chan, which I don't think is a major
- 44:32Speaker 1: surprise considering the way he's played this.
- 44:34Speaker 3: Year, but I think it's a little bit different.
- 44:36Speaker 1: I think so last week he did it mostly as
- 44:39Speaker 1: a runner. He didn't have a whole lot in terms
- 44:41Speaker 1: of receiving. I think he had fewer than ten receiving yards,
- 44:43Speaker 1: but he did have eighty one yards and a touchdown
- 44:46Speaker 1: on the ground last week. This week against the Bucks.
- 44:48Speaker 1: I think it's reversed where I think his rushing numbers
- 44:51Speaker 1: might be sort of mid. But I think as a
- 44:53Speaker 1: pass catcher, because that is where Tampa has really struggled
- 44:56Speaker 1: is against running backs catching the ball out of the backfield.
- 45:00Speaker 1: Look you as I I know I praised him, but
- 45:02Speaker 1: also he's not gonna be a super vertical passer, right.
- 45:06Speaker 1: He'll get the bottle waller, he'll get it to Wattle,
- 45:08Speaker 1: but I think he'll also get it to Devon ah
- 45:10Speaker 1: Chan out of the backfield, and that's where you see
- 45:12Speaker 1: him really do things Like you know, you have a
- 45:14Speaker 1: handful of catches. Wouldn't be surprised if he had in
- 45:16Speaker 1: the neighborhood of seventy five eighty yards receiving finds his
- 45:19Speaker 1: way into the end zone. But either way, Devon ah
- 45:21Speaker 1: Chan has been the one thing that has worked consistently
- 45:25Speaker 1: in this offense and I think it will continue to
- 45:27Speaker 1: be the thing that works again this week against the
- 45:29Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
- 45:30Speaker 3: So there you go.
- 45:31Speaker 1: Those are the guys who get past the bouncer and
- 45:34Speaker 1: into club dub in your championship week. That was who
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- 45:48Speaker 1: there we go. That is our last bit of advice
- 45:50Speaker 1: for you before you head into your championship games. We
- 45:53Speaker 1: wish you certainly the best and happiest holiday. We certainly
- 45:56Speaker 1: wish you the best in championship weekend as well. But
- 45:59Speaker 1: in the meantime for us is it's we are done.
- 46:01Speaker 1: We appreciate you hanging out with the NFL Fantasy Football show.
- 46:04Speaker 3: You know the drill.
- 46:05Speaker 1: Tell two friends to tell two friends, rate review, and
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- 46:10Speaker 1: have too much free time. Be safe to carry yourselves.
- 46:12Speaker 1: Good luck in your championships.
- 46:14Speaker 3: We'll talk to you next week.