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NASCAR DFS - Brickyard 400, 2026 | DraftKings Drivers, Dominators & Place Differential · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: the Brickyard, Baby Brickyard four hundred Today Sunday pre race
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  Speaker 1: coverage begins at one o'clock on TNT, with race coverage
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  Speaker 1: then following on DNZ at two o'clock as well. One
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  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty laps on tap for today, which equals
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  Speaker 1: out to roughly one one hundred and twelve dominator points.
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  Speaker 1: I am recommending between one and two potential dominators per lineup.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason, oh, I had those links up and
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  Speaker 1: And the reason I'm only recommending between one or two
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  Speaker 1: potential dominators is because there's not that much on deck,
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  Speaker 1: only one sixty and two. This is only the third
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  Speaker 1: time that the NASCAR Cup Series in the Next Gen
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  Speaker 1: car has raced the oval at Indie Motor Speedway. Before
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  Speaker 1: that they were racing the road course with the next
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  Speaker 1: Gen car, and now we're back on the oval for
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  Speaker 1: the thirty year in a row. These past two years,
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  Speaker 1: the main lap leader of each race only led forty laps.
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  Speaker 1: Reddick led forty in twenty twenty four in Austin Centric
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  Speaker 1: led forty just last year. So we have to assume
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  Speaker 1: that the main lap leader this year will only lead
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  Speaker 1: roughly around the same so you don't have to go
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  Speaker 1: too heavy into dominators. This isn't like a five hundred
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  Speaker 1: lap Bristol race. Plus we have some pretty decent potential
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  Speaker 1: place differential plays on tap four today. All right, let
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  Speaker 1: the PDF up with the blocked out projections. This weekend
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  Speaker 1: practice was on Friday, followed then by qualifying on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of that old school vibe with practice on Friday
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  Speaker 1: followed by the qualifying vice or rather, I guess the
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  Speaker 1: real old school would be a practice and then qualifying
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  Speaker 1: on Friday followed by the Happy Hour on Saturday. But
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  Speaker 1: we're kind of close with having him on two separate days.
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  Speaker 1: A few things to make note of. Austin Sindric had
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  Speaker 1: electrical issues in practice. His car shut off I think
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  Speaker 1: twice or actually a shut off. Once he got it
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  Speaker 1: back into the pits, they fixed it and then like
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  Speaker 1: his dash like powered down. His his engine was still going,
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  Speaker 1: but he had like nothing like on the dash.
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  Speaker 2: So not the best, but you have.
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  Speaker 1: To assume that that issue will be rectified by today.
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  Speaker 1: But that is something the key aware of. And Bubba
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  Speaker 1: Wallace and Shane Van Gisberg and both got into the
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  Speaker 1: wall during practice. Bubba's was a bit more hard than SVG's.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really too concerned about either of them, though.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think either of them will be going to
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  Speaker 1: a backup car. And if any of these three would
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  Speaker 1: have to fall to the rear for any repairs that
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  Speaker 1: the team had to make or unapproved repair that the
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  Speaker 1: team had to make, it doesn't impact them all too much.
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  Speaker 1: Bubba Wallace is starting twenty ninth, that's not too big
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  Speaker 1: of a hit. Austin Sindrick is starting thirty fifth, that's
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  Speaker 1: really not that big of a hit. And SVG is
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  Speaker 1: starting twenty fifth. If you were playing SVG, you're playing
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  Speaker 1: him in a one hundred and fifty max tournament anyway,
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  Speaker 1: and if he's in your lineups at a small percentage,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't bother taking him out if he drops to
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  Speaker 1: the rear because he's been on a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a heater lately. So in my opinion, if any of
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  Speaker 1: those three would fall to the rear, not too big
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  Speaker 1: of an impact for them. However, it is eight thirty five.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even have a watch on. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: why I did that. It's eight thirty five on Sunday morning,
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  Speaker 1: and as of now, those announcements have not yet been made,
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  Speaker 1: So is something just to keep an eye on and
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  Speaker 1: to keep aware of as the morning progresses. Now, let's
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and do a quick rundown of the starting
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  Speaker 1: lineup and Spire Motorsports teammates Carson host of R and
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Suarez on the front row. Really, we shouldn't be surprised.
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  Speaker 1: Spire has had speed all season long, particularly these two cars.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like Mike Mack has had the speed
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  Speaker 1: as host of R and Suarez has a Host of
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  Speaker 1: R is getting a lot of love as far as
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  Speaker 1: potential ownership goes. He is the NASCAR superstar right now,
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  Speaker 1: so to speak. He is priced decently at only eighty
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  Speaker 1: three hundred, and he's been fast all season. Will he
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  Speaker 1: lead you forty plus laps off of the poll, It's
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  Speaker 1: very likely. Or will he fade to the big dogs
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  Speaker 1: and hunt around fifth to tenth all day? That remains
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  Speaker 1: to be seen. He's getting He's getting a lot of popularity,
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  Speaker 1: a steam as Djen used to say, he's being steamed
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  Speaker 1: up today so far after his qualifying effort. So hosts
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  Speaker 1: of R and Reddick or host of R and Suarez
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  Speaker 1: on the front row no problem playing host of R.
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  Speaker 1: If you're playing Suarez, in my opinion, would be a
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  Speaker 1: GPP potential dominator play. He's been fast all season. I
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  Speaker 1: know his track rank doesn't look the best, but there's
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  Speaker 1: only been two races, so not that big of a
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  Speaker 1: sample size. Row two Tyler Reddick and Ty Gibbs. Red
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  Speaker 1: Dog is fantastic stick at these long, flat, fast racetracks.
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  Speaker 1: He's been kind of on a slump a little bit
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  Speaker 1: since his heater at the beginning of the year, but
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  Speaker 1: his best race in the recent history has been Pocono,
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  Speaker 1: and Pocono is guess what, big, long and flat, So
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  Speaker 1: no issues taking a chance on Red Dog today. Ty
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  Speaker 1: Gibbs was fast during practice. That c minus kind of
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  Speaker 1: sticks out and will probably scare some people for the
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  Speaker 1: track rank.
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  Speaker 2: But just like I said about Swarez.
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  Speaker 1: Only two races and Gibbs has definitely been improved this season,
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  Speaker 1: so no problem taking a chance on Ty Gibbs. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's I don't think he's a cash play, but
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  Speaker 1: for GPPs, if you want to take a chance for
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  Speaker 1: Ty as your dominator, for sure, I have no issues
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  Speaker 1: rolling out with that. Denny Hamlin and Mike macro three, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Mike mack just does not seem to have the speed
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  Speaker 1: as host of r and Suarez, but he is in
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  Speaker 1: the same equipment. Hamlin fastest kuy in NASCAR right now,
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  Speaker 1: best team. They even mentioned during the practice that the
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  Speaker 1: eleven team and Denny Hamlin put a little extra work
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  Speaker 1: into his car this weekend. Now do I really believe that?
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  Speaker 1: Not really, because well I shouldn't say not really. Do
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  Speaker 1: I believe they worked a little extra on it? Sure,
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  Speaker 1: but I kind of think every team in the garage did.
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  Speaker 1: Because this is Indianapolis, So no matter what this newsfest
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  Speaker 1: we were about to watch in a few hours is
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  Speaker 1: going to be a lot of people still hold this
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  Speaker 1: track in very high regard. So if they said that
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  Speaker 1: they put extra work into eleven Toyota, you have to
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  Speaker 1: assume that they did. But I kind of think everybody
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  Speaker 1: did this weekend. Next up, Corey Haim and Alex Bowman,
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  Speaker 1: heim winner in the Cup Series this year. No problem
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  Speaker 1: stating the shot on him, probably GPP only because I
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  Speaker 1: don't really see him dominating and he is in that
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  Speaker 1: top ten, So probably GPP only played. But he's been
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  Speaker 1: fast all season long. Alex Bowman is a lane duck
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  Speaker 1: all the way until next season and through next season
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  Speaker 1: everybody assumed it was going to be Bowman's last season
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  Speaker 1: this year, and it came out that he is retiring
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  Speaker 1: at the end of twenty twenty seven. So we get
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  Speaker 1: a year and a half of the Alex Bowman retirement
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  Speaker 1: tour and a year and a half of who will
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  Speaker 1: be filling this ride. The hot rumor is that Connor
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  Speaker 1: Zilich we will be the one tabbed to replace Alex
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  Speaker 1: Bowman in the forty eight car. Would track House be
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  Speaker 1: fumbling the bag if they let that happen. That remains
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  Speaker 1: to be seen, as Zilich is in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the worst rookie season in the history of the world,
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  Speaker 1: so that remains to be seen. But that is the
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  Speaker 1: hot rumor right now that Zilich will be but to
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  Speaker 1: replace Bowman at Hendrick Motorsports at the end of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven. Why they wouldn't go with Corey Day, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure, but hey, I'm not an executive for Hendrick Motorsports.
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  Speaker 1: Next up, we have a j Allmandinger and Kyle Larson.
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  Speaker 1: The Dinger looked really good in practice, but he's just
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  Speaker 1: they don't have the factory support and I just can't
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  Speaker 1: see them having an amazing day, especially starting ninth. If
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  Speaker 1: they were starting nineteenth, twenty, ninth, thirty, ninth, I would
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  Speaker 1: be much more willing to play him. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I love it. Ninth Kyle Larson A plus is
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  Speaker 1: across the board, fast, across the board, love young money today.
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  Speaker 1: Will this finally be the day that Larson gets back
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  Speaker 1: in the victory lane? I don't know, but he is
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  Speaker 1: a really good at Indy. You know who's also good
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  Speaker 1: at Indie Chase Brisco who is starting eleventh, right behind Larsen.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic Joe Gibbs racing ninety two hundred new issues there
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  Speaker 1: Cold Custer at fifty one, pulled off a great lap,
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  Speaker 1: was slow in practice. This team does have an affiliation
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  Speaker 1: with Hendrick, not as nearly as much as like Spire
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  Speaker 1: does right because of resources and whatever, but they are
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  Speaker 1: affiliated with Hendrick. So if you're looking for a a
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  Speaker 1: driver to take a chance on, I don't have any
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  Speaker 1: issues playing Cole Custer, but just know, like with that
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  Speaker 1: starting position, if it goes bad, you're gonna lose a
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  Speaker 1: lot of points. But in theory he should have the
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  Speaker 1: equipment to stay in and around that area throughout the
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  Speaker 1: day because of the affiliation with Hendrick, but that remains
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  Speaker 1: to be seen. Ryan and Eric Jones up next. Blaney
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  Speaker 1: one of the fastest cars all season, faster in practice.
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  Speaker 1: No surprise there, picked through husband trash. Will that continue?
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  Speaker 1: That remains to be seen. Eric Jones really has had
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: an uptick in performance lately. Yes, he has an f
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  Speaker 1: for his track rank ranking, but reminder only two races,
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  Speaker 1: and those two races are when he was sucking well
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  Speaker 1: Legacy Motor Club and he hasn't sucked in a while
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  Speaker 1: with Legacy Motor Club. So I have no problems taking
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  Speaker 1: a chance on Eric Jones Today. RFK teammates Chris Busher
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  Speaker 1: well then an RFK owner Brad Kazialowski up next. Busher
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  Speaker 1: looked good all over. Kasilowski kind of looks slow during practice,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: but Kaselowski has had good runs here in the next
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: gen car. If that's enough for you to click that button,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: by all means go ahead, it probably passed for me.
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  Speaker 2: John Hunter and Riley Herbs up next.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. John Hunter looked really good in the one lab practice,
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  Speaker 1: but then not so great in the fire ten. No
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: issues on taking a chance with John Hunter, though I
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: prefer Eric Jones of the Legacy Motor Club compared to him.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Riley Herbs has had some good runs this season and
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  Speaker 1: he is in that fast twenty three XI equipment, So
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: no issues taking a chance on Riley, Logano and Dylan
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: up next. Logano off of his just Dick Dragon performance
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  Speaker 1: at Northwolkesboro last week. I would be stunned if he
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  Speaker 1: went back to back, but you never know. Austin Dillon
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  Speaker 1: is a no for me dog. William Byron and Wash Chastain.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Byron looked great in practice. He's starting twenty first. That's
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  Speaker 1: PD upside love it. Yes, ros Chastain also look good
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  Speaker 1: during practice. Track House has struggled this season. If you've
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: been watching this sport, if you've just been playing DraftKings
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: on this sport, you know that track House has been struggling.
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  Speaker 1: Today going to be today they turn it all around?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's I don't know, but uh, he
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  Speaker 1: looked good during practice, and he has to have some
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: kind of success this season, Like he's not like Ross.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Isn't that terrible of a driver to be that crappy
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  Speaker 1: all season long? Right, So like something has to go
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  Speaker 1: good eventually. Is today going to be that day? I
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: don't know, but something good has to happen. Christopher Bell
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  Speaker 1: and Ricky Stenhouse give me Christopher Bell please and know
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  Speaker 1: Ricky Stenhouse, Shane Van Gisberg or Josh Berry up next.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: SBG has been taking off a couple good Oval finishes lately,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And I still think people don't click him
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: because SVG is road course only guy.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, if you're playing a one to fifty max and
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: you want to include SBG in the pool, he's he's
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  Speaker 1: been impressive. He's been the best driver for track House
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  Speaker 1: this season. I don't think that's going out saying anything
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  Speaker 1: too crazy. So SVG, you've officially made the oval playrpool.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the club.
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  Speaker 1: Ricky No or Josh Barry No, Chase Elliott and Ty
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  Speaker 1: Dylan Ty Dylan, Eh, not really. I wish it was
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Dinger all the way back here, and I wish Dinger.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I wish Tye and Dinger would have trade placiers. I
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: wish Dylan would be up there. And what where's Tie
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  Speaker 1: or where's Dinger ninth? I wish Ty Dylan was ninth,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and I wish Dinger was back here at twenty eighth.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: It's a pass for me. I don't anticipate. It hasn't
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  Speaker 1: been announced yet, but a lot of signs are pointing
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: to ty Dylan not being in that colleague ride next
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: year because a lot of rumors are circulating that colleague
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: will be going to RAM next season in the Cup Series.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: That hasn't been official. That's not official by any stretch
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: of theation, but that is the big rumor. And if
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: that were to happen, ty Dylan gone because ty Dylan
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: is affiliated with Chevy, who do to pop pop right
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: pop pop, meaning Richard Choulders. So give me a lame
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: duck ty Dillon in a colleague car, That's a no
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  Speaker 1: for me. Dog Chase Elliott, though yeah, he great at
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  Speaker 1: this style of track, good at this track, good speeder
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: recently didn't look the greatest in practice. You can probably
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: spend that ninety five hundred elsewhere and feel much better
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: about it. But I still think he should make your
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: player pool. Because it's Chase Elliott a Hendrick car. Anything
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: can happen. Who's next Bubba Wallace and Zane Smith? Bubble Wallace,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I think, if I remember correctly, was like the top
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: driver ranking when I ran all my formulas and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Who won this race last year led I think thirty
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  Speaker 1: six laps and doing so. I know he wasn't the
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: biggest lap leader last year, but I know he won.
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  Speaker 1: He led laps to previous year twenty three. XI excels
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  Speaker 1: at these racetracks. Yes, Bubba Wallace did get into the
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: wall during practice, I don't think that's gonna change his
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: ownership numbers at all. Even if he has to go
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: to the rear today, Bubba Wallace will be heavily played
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: and for good reason. Right He's been great here in
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a fast car, and not only great here great at
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  Speaker 1: this style of racetrack.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, he hit the wall, but.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: He's still good now that tyle of racetrack, So you
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  Speaker 1: gotta take You don't have to take the chance, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: but you should. Zane Smith and Connor zilichup next. I'll
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: always take a chance on Zaye Zayin has had some
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: decent runs lately, not the greatest tier, but like I said,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: only two next generaces, so you really can't take that
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  Speaker 1: track rank too much. The gospel Connor Zilich no good, terrible,
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  Speaker 1: horrible season continues.
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  Speaker 2: He looks no.
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  Speaker 1: Good, terrible, awful in practice, so that's a no for me.
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  Speaker 1: Austin Hill and Noah Gregson, No and no, Ryan Priese,
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  Speaker 1: Austin Sindrick, and Todd Gilliland Yes yes, yes. Todd Gilliland's
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  Speaker 1: been great here doesn't have the finishes necessary to show
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: for it. Here are these past two Brickyard four hundreds,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: but has ran well in both of them, and he's
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: started thirty six yes please, Austin Sindrick ten Penske started
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  Speaker 1: thirty fifth, Yes please. And Ryan Priest, who always fights
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: every lap for our fantasy point per dollar, starting thirty fourth,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Yes please. And then rounding out the last three, Cody
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: wear Casey meersaid, Daniel Die if you want to play
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: any of the three of these drivers, I would just
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: play Daniel Die because he starts dead last. But I
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: really wouldn't go out of my way to click either
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  Speaker 1: of them any of them.
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  Speaker 2: Either of them would mean too.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about three, so I really wouldn't go out
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: of my way to click any of those three drivers.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: And that's it for me for this lovely Sunday morning.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: It's eight point fifty. I'm want to go have a
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: safety meeting after this with another cup of coffee. So
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: as always, if there are any additional questions or if
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you have any questions about the slate, please feel free
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: to tag me on Discord. I will be keeping an
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: eye on Twitter for any announcements for drivers to the rear,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: and I will be making sure I tag the channel
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: as necessary for that information on Discord and I will
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: be heading to the racetrack, not Indy. I'm going to
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Port Royal today for the Bob Wigert Memorial. So if
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you would be happening to be in central Pennsylvania at
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: that race today and you would see me, come say hello,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: so good luck in all of your slates today, hit
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: me up with any questions, and as always, let's ship it.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: The mons mothered, and mons
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Had then stopped mother and then sped and then stand
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: and s