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Patriots Unfiltered 10/24: Takeaways from last-second win over Bills, Hope for the season?, What to do at the trade deadline · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
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  Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium, and boy, the food tastes better, the
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  Speaker 1: oxygen is more fresh. Everything. Yeah, everything's better. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: had a win like that and I don't know how long,
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  Speaker 1: but man, feels good, feels so good.
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  Speaker 5: It was an exciting game too. It wasn't just like
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  Speaker 5: you you won, you know, the other team rolled up.
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  Speaker 5: It was a good game, great finish, yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 5: a lot of good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: The Bills were a good team. They showed their metal
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the game. They didn't have their
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  Speaker 1: best game, but at the end of the game, Josh
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  Speaker 1: Allen does what great quarterbacks do. He you know, got
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  Speaker 1: it together and they scored two touchdowns. But yet the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots were able to overcome that. Come you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think you can truck it up as it come from
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  Speaker 1: behind win right sure? Oh yeah, yeah, come back fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 1: even though you were winning for fifty eight minutes.
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  Speaker 5: You know, now, the way the NFL does it, it won't.
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  Speaker 5: But yes, it absolutely counts as a un because they
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  Speaker 5: because it's trailing entering the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so back and forth and the fourth I
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  Speaker 1: will count.
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  Speaker 3: I will count it.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, it definitely counts. Yeah, and it would count.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, Mac, everybody else's Mac had to have a
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  Speaker 1: game winning drive. And he did it.
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  Speaker 5: He did it, And I mean I've said it a
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  Speaker 5: couple of times.
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  Speaker 4: I just I like that it came off of what
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  Speaker 4: could have been a devastating mistake the.
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  Speaker 5: Fun black guy Kendrick Bourne, which you know I should say.
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  Speaker 5: I feel it was really hard on him on the
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  Speaker 5: prost Game Show.
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  Speaker 4: I think I was just like, that was a nice
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  Speaker 4: play by poor to punch it out, like I put
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  Speaker 4: him on the down list, and I kind of regret
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  Speaker 4: it a little bit, just because I thought he made
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  Speaker 4: some plays, but not the time for a down list.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't a time for a downlist for kender Bourne.
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  Speaker 4: Yet he did have a good game. But I just
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  Speaker 4: liked that they had that mistake and you said, all right, well, Pero,
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  Speaker 4: it is this is where you can fold and you
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  Speaker 4: know they did score, and you know it just it
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  Speaker 4: gave an opportunity for them to pick themselves up off
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  Speaker 4: the mat and go down and like you said, get
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  Speaker 4: that win against Buffalo.
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  Speaker 7: That it's like, you know, over these years, the Jets
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  Speaker 7: have done it a couple of times. You're like, how
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  Speaker 7: did the Jets just dumb into a.
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  Speaker 5: Win over Buffalo?
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  Speaker 4: And for some reason it's like, you know, seven out
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  Speaker 4: of the last eight, like every time.
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  Speaker 5: It's just like same game getting hammered. So it was great.
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  Speaker 5: It was a great, great win for these.
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  Speaker 1: So we have that to talk about what it means
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  Speaker 1: that game going forward. Perhaps it's Deuce, it's Tamara, it's Evan, Paul, myself,
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  Speaker 1: Matt and the booth. We'll be here for the next
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  Speaker 1: two hours talking about Patriots. It's right, and we have
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  Speaker 1: good things to talk about. Like it's it's great.
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  Speaker 5: It's nice to have Fred back. No, I mean it's nice.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you start the game and you get the inactives,
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  Speaker 1: you look at the warm ups and you see on
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  Speaker 1: when you at the right tackle and you're like, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: they're seeing what we're seeing. They're they're making a move
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  Speaker 1: and I think to me that was like the catalyst
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  Speaker 1: for it being a good day. I really do. I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, having him at the right would sow next
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  Speaker 1: to him. I think that that was.
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  Speaker 3: You know, who can we double check that on when you? Sorry?
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  Speaker 5: What is it?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what did I say on.
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  Speaker 3: When you know? That's what you guys say. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: still stuck on on on when it could be?
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  Speaker 5: It could be you say, Chandler Jones, can you say
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  Speaker 5: that again on.
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  Speaker 1: When you so? I kind of stressed the Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: kind of do you and he.
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  Speaker 3: Does, sorry to distract us, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, anyway, but like I think Max Mike, I think
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  Speaker 1: Max saw that, and obviously they probably practiced it during
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  Speaker 1: the week, right, I'm sure like.
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  Speaker 7: He said Wednesday, was that they came to him instead.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Mac. I think that gave Mac a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more confidence. I don't know if it gave him
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  Speaker 1: any more time because the ball was out of his
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  Speaker 1: hands so fast during the game. But I think that
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  Speaker 1: was one of the things that you can point to
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  Speaker 1: that was different that worked. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, getting Douglas involved, I mean, he's another thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 4: The thing I didn't realize too was that he drew
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  Speaker 4: three penalties and all of them led to touchdowns. Like
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  Speaker 4: all of them, all the penalties that he drew, I
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  Speaker 4: think it was one defensive holding, two oh PI or
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  Speaker 4: DPIs they all ended up in a touchdown. So I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he just was involved a lot and led to a
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  Speaker 4: lot of good things, and I just I hope they
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  Speaker 4: can continue to be.
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  Speaker 7: Some of those catches he made were outstanding.
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  Speaker 5: You know, It's like to me was more impressive even
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  Speaker 5: and I know it didn't matter, but the penalties that
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  Speaker 5: he drew, he cut the ball anyway, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and contested catches for a guy who's a little smaller
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  Speaker 5: in stature, kind of don't know to travel.
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  Speaker 1: He looked like I said it in the post game show,
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  Speaker 1: he looked like a veteran, Like the confidence, the sure handedness,
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  Speaker 1: obviously the vision once he has the ball. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: look like a rookie, not me.
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  Speaker 7: He looked better than I had seen him.
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  Speaker 4: Man, it was like he got concussed and all of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden it kind of all clicked for him for
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  Speaker 4: some reason, like you know, like.
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  Speaker 5: Oh that's all he needed that way, But he was
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  Speaker 5: he was excellent.
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  Speaker 7: That was a new level I haven't even seen that
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  Speaker 7: out of him.
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  Speaker 8: Yet I also really liked the tight ends, and I
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  Speaker 8: don't know if it was just because it was National.
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  Speaker 9: Tight End Day and they were feeling it a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit more days National tight End.
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  Speaker 5: It seems like a whole the whole NFL season is
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  Speaker 5: devoted to George Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Now that Taylor Swift likes a tight end, I mean, that's.
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  Speaker 5: That's the position of the position.
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  Speaker 9: But they were great, and you know, starting off, that
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  Speaker 9: was already the position.
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  Speaker 8: Starting off with Pharaoh Brown, it seems like, you know,
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  Speaker 8: whenever he gets the opportunity, he has a big play,
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  Speaker 8: and it just went up from there.
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  Speaker 1: Downtown Brown.
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  Speaker 7: It's unbelievable, Downtown a couple of times.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, moving up the pyramid.
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  Speaker 3: I want to just Bill O'Brien just come out to
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  Speaker 3: the middle the fifty yard line and take about take
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  Speaker 3: about I don't I don't think I can remember. You
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  Speaker 3: have to go back to Brady McDaniels for a game
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  Speaker 3: plan that was as well constructed as that one. He
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  Speaker 3: was a step ahead of Sean McDermott for four quarters.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that Mac played exceptionally well in the fourth
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  Speaker 3: quarter of this game, But the first three quarters, Billy oh,
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  Speaker 3: drove the ship, he carried the offense.
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  Speaker 1: Normally I would push back and say, well, it's just
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  Speaker 1: because they executed it better. But Mac after the game
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  Speaker 1: specifically said he gave credit to Bill O'Brien, said, he
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  Speaker 1: did we did a lot of things that I feel
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  Speaker 1: comfortable doing. Well.
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  Speaker 5: I think they did a lot of different things too.
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  Speaker 3: It was an absolute thing of beauty. It was a
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  Speaker 3: masterclass by Bill O'Brien. Is it sustainable the execution part
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  Speaker 3: of it or the x's and O is part of it?
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  Speaker 3: Because those are two different things.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, I would say that, Yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't wanted to come No, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think it because that's my big picture question coming off
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  Speaker 3: this game, is was that the Patriots super Bowl? Or
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  Speaker 3: is that the Patriots now?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Like, because we've seen this on the other side, where
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  Speaker 3: you know, do you catch the Giants sleeping, you win
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  Speaker 3: the upset game, and then the very next week you
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  Speaker 3: lose by thirty points and like it's kind of just
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  Speaker 3: all right, well, what was the point even of beating Buffalo?
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  Speaker 3: But if this is how they're going to play offense
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  Speaker 3: moving forward? That opening script, the opening where they have
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  Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins like they're coming out, they're motioning Pop Douglas,
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  Speaker 3: They're running all sorts of misdirection in motion in the
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  Speaker 3: running game, they're bootlegging like Pharaoh Brown bootleg. And then
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  Speaker 3: I hit him for like twenty two yards something like
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  Speaker 3: that in the opening drive. That was as well of
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  Speaker 3: a design to plan as I've seen the Patriots have
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  Speaker 3: in years. I mean, he was on fire.
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  Speaker 1: How much of it was this was the right matchup?
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  Speaker 1: Or do you, like Paul said, is this sustainable? Oh?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. If I didn't know if it's sustainable,
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  Speaker 5: I would say what they did you can do every
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  Speaker 5: week if you want to. But I do wonder how
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  Speaker 5: much the style of defense that Buffalo plays, right, I
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  Speaker 5: think that if you look at some of the better
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  Speaker 5: games that even this iteration of the Patriots offense has had,
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  Speaker 5: Like they moved the ball pretty well last year in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 10: If you if you recall and that especially, That's what
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  Speaker 10: I'm talking about, But that the game in Buffalo, they
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  Speaker 10: moved the ball pretty well, and they gave themselves a
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  Speaker 10: chance to get in a shootout if they didn't give
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  Speaker 10: up the second kick return.
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  Speaker 5: You know, And I do think the style I think
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  Speaker 5: Buffalo's defense is good. I'm not telling you that they stink.
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  Speaker 5: So again, I'm guarding a minute, I'm guarding against the
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  Speaker 5: Blah police, right. I think Buffalo's defense is good, but
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a good matchup for the Patriots. I
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  Speaker 5: think they like to get the ball out quickly, short,
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  Speaker 5: and Buffalo likes to play soft z own. I think
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  Speaker 5: that really kind of like really factors into the.
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  Speaker 1: Equations, the role of a coordinated to recognize them well.
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  Speaker 5: And that's why, like, I'm happy that Evan you know,
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  Speaker 5: cited Bill O'Brien fred as you came down for the
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  Speaker 5: post game show. That was how I let off the good,
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  Speaker 5: the bad, and the injured. Was my good was coaching period.
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  Speaker 5: Like the game plan that they had I thought really
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  Speaker 5: kept Buffalo on its heels for sixty plus minutes. Now,
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't perfect because they're not that good. They can't
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  Speaker 5: dominate a good team like on the school board on this,
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  Speaker 5: you know, on the stat sheet for sixty minutes every game.
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  Speaker 5: That's not they're not good enough to do that. But
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  Speaker 5: they took what they had and they kept Buffalo off
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  Speaker 5: guard throughout the game, and there were some peaks and
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  Speaker 5: valleys along the way. But I really thought the motion
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  Speaker 5: stuff that Evan's talking about, the quick stuff to Douglas,
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  Speaker 5: And what I really like is we get made fun
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  Speaker 5: of all the time. Like, listen to these guys. They're
• 10:46
  Speaker 5: trying to tell Bill Belichick what to do, Like he
• 10:49
  Speaker 5: doesn't know. No, we're not trying to tell. But when
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people want to do something and they
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  Speaker 5: actually do it, then it's okay. Like this, like people
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  Speaker 5: have been saying, put a one U at tackle, people
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  Speaker 5: are saying just you know, sort of just go with
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  Speaker 5: more dogs, go with Douglas as the focal point. He's
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  Speaker 5: the best game. You know, people were complaining when Douglas
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  Speaker 5: got benched for fumbling. Let him play through the mistakes
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  Speaker 5: and maybe he'll make more plays than makes that he
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  Speaker 5: makes mistakes if you just stick with it. That was
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  Speaker 5: what this game was, you know, because he made mistakes
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  Speaker 5: and I think Mac was pissed at him on that sack.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, ran right into the zone defender instead of sitting
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  Speaker 3: at you.
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  Speaker 5: But this is like we don't know more than anybody
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  Speaker 5: that's that's working in the NFL, and we don't pretend to,
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  Speaker 5: but sometimes you can just see the this might work
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  Speaker 5: let it, you know, just sort of let it work.
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  Speaker 1: Hatians.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he just so everybody against the Patriots,
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  Speaker 3: Buffalo included, is just playing a ton of man coverage.
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  Speaker 3: Like they just don't think that you can beat them
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  Speaker 3: in man coverage because the Patriots don't have their receivers.
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  Speaker 3: So very first player of the game, Patriots go under center,
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  Speaker 3: they get single high man to man, and they motioned
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  Speaker 3: Douglas and now it becomes a horror horizontal track meet, Like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, if you're gonna just come up and play
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  Speaker 3: man to man against us, we're not gonna let you
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  Speaker 3: press our receivers at the line, and we're gonna make
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  Speaker 3: you tackle in space.
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  Speaker 5: So what do they do.
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  Speaker 3: They motion him across the formation, They throw them the
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  Speaker 3: cheap motion throw, and then he just spins Tron Johnson
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  Speaker 3: like a top with the ball in his hands and
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  Speaker 3: puts him in a blender and now you're nine yards
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  Speaker 3: on first down. Now it's second and one. Like that
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  Speaker 3: was the game plan, and it got Buffalo to play
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  Speaker 3: more zone. I think Buffalo wanted to play man to
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  Speaker 3: man in this game. I think they wanted to come
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  Speaker 3: out and play a bunch of man and then pop Douglas,
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  Speaker 3: to his credit, was terrific. I mean they couldn't cover
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  Speaker 3: the guy like he was opened the entire game for
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  Speaker 3: four quarters.
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  Speaker 5: Opened a couple.
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  Speaker 3: Times on the goal line too, where he probably could
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  Speaker 3: have gotten a touchdown. On the second to last play
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  Speaker 3: from scrimmage, mac overthrew that ball, and then on Bourne's touchdown,
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  Speaker 3: Douglas was open as well. He could have thrown a
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  Speaker 3: touchdown to either one of the guys. He just threw
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  Speaker 3: it to Bourne. So Douglas was great, but they are
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  Speaker 3: have base turned him into discount Tyreek Hill. You know,
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: he's just running verticals and motion routes all over the place,
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  Speaker 3: and then the motion gets married up to the running
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  Speaker 3: game and now they're running the ball again, and that
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  Speaker 3: that's just how the whole thing opens up. This started,
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  Speaker 3: I would say, in the second half against the Raiders,
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  Speaker 3: but they didn't make the changes on the line yet.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like I saw it coming in the third
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  Speaker 3: and fourth quarter against Vegas. They all this motion and
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  Speaker 3: all the different things that all the tools that O'Brien
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  Speaker 3: was starting to unlock, and I was like, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Well they started the motion against Dallas right away. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but then the game got out.
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  Speaker 3: Of hand, right, And I think, you know, with O'Brien,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't going to happen overnight. Like he had a
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  Speaker 3: lot to fix and there was a lot of different
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  Speaker 3: things that he wanted to install and wanted to bring here.
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  Speaker 3: And I think unfortunately the losses snowballed on them so
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  Speaker 3: quickly that maybe they're in a hole that they can't
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  Speaker 3: dig themselves out of. But I always thought that the
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  Speaker 3: second half of the season for the offense was going
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  Speaker 3: to be better than the first half ones. O'Brien got
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  Speaker 3: the ship up and running. Now he's got it in
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  Speaker 3: a much better spot and we'll see what they look
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  Speaker 3: like going forward.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's good stuff. And then on defense again
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  Speaker 1: wasn't perfect. You let up the two, but they constantly
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  Speaker 1: pressured alan they got him off platform, as Evan would say,
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  Speaker 1: and he was forced to throw a lot of balls away.
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  Speaker 1: You know. This time when he did extend plays, it did.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't get hurt as much as they did in
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  Speaker 1: the past. And you know, credit, I guess credit to
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  Speaker 1: Steven Gerrod for dialing up what they did different ways
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  Speaker 1: to get pressure. Sometimes it was Bentley, you know, Wise
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  Speaker 1: was in there. Bar Moore had a game, Like, if
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: he keeps playing like that, that's hit it out, like
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  Speaker 1: pushing it forward. I felt like replying, if you keep
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  Speaker 1: playing like that, you're gonna be pushing bags forward, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because you're gonna be worth a lot on it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you get it.
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  Speaker 3: I think he heard induced compare him to Adam Butler
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  Speaker 3: and and now he's just been playing like an absolutely no.
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  Speaker 5: I mean that game was the game that I envisioned
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: when he was a rookie little flashes, but I haven't
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: really seen that Christian Barmore since ye.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: Poor poor Cyrus Torrents.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: And you know, I read your review, and I love
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: the way you put it. You know, he picked his
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: spots when to do his best pass rush and then
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: other times, you know, played the job that he was
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: given in just maintaining his his two gaps. You know,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I think that blend of of what he did and
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: when he did it was perfect.
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: You know, they needed it. I mean, and you know
• 15:40
  Speaker 7: throw Wise in there.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, all these guys, I mean I think had
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: you know, some moments and why penalty or two, but
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: you know, Jennings just these guys had to step up
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: and we all know what what what we thought it
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: was going to look like when Gonzales and Jude On
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: and then even Ouch was out and it was like, man,
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: they they're going to struggle to.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: Get after the passer. But I think you guys are
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: totally right.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Bar More just I mean they need him to continue
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: that against Miami this week.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: With their line issues.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is you know, potentially where they could
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: find something to build off.
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: And strangely like that was one area that Buffalo didn't
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: have really health issues. Their offensive line was reasonably healthy. Yeah,
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: heading into that game, the Patriots just it.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Was funny that guy o Cyrus Torrence was at the
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Senior Bowl and they were just praising him like every
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: and I remember watching him and being like, this is
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: what a first round guard probably looks like, you know,
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: just compared to cold strange like, he just was tough
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: and stout.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: But then Barmore took him to school. So and then
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: you know, don't don't watch.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: The you know, in just the usage, the number of
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: you know, the number of snaps guys were getting seemed
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: like the perfect mix, you know, going back to offensepu right,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: but you know, we realized that they were kind of
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: wasting snaps on Parker, you know, so you know, pulling
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: back Parker a little bit and getting whether it's Raeger
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: out there more or you know.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: They had some speed lineups which I liked.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I like, when's speed not a good thing? And the
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: NFL like when doesn't that match up?
• 17:03
  Speaker 8: I know, I will say Fred, I don't know if
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: you listened to Steve Tasker when he called in from
• 17:08
  Speaker 8: the Bills, but he called this game to be close.
• 17:11
  Speaker 8: Like he was like, I don't think this is going
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: to be the blaw I every woe thinks it's going
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: to be. He was like, the way the Bills have
• 17:15
  Speaker 8: been playing, they've been going downwards since that Jaguars game.
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: So yeah, he could fall.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: That's funny. Nobody in nobody in New England gave the
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Patriots much of a chance. Everybody in Buffalo did, because
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: everybody in Buffalo the s guy is absolutely falling and
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: they want Ken Dorsey out.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: True, rightfully, So that's a good point. It's a different perspective.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: There that I understand the Bills fans gripes. I think
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: that they're all warranted. At this point. He finally got
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: a game where Josh Allen didn't play out of his mind.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Like that was I think the biggest takeaway from the defense.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Like not to take away what they did defensively to
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: get him there, but there are throws in this game
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: that Josh Allen makes in his sleep that he missed
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: in this one. So I don't want to like overreact
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: too much to Oh, they they solved the bills, they
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: got the game. The one thing I would say that
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: they did that I liked was that they blitzed him
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: half the time fifty percent of his dropbacks. They sent
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: extra pressure and they didn't just sit back in soft
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: zone and just you know, make them march it and
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: all that, because that's what they had been doing and
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: he was just picking them apart, you know, without any pressure.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: So in this game they went after him. They did
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: blitz him a lot, but I couldn't count four or
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: five throws off the top of my head in this
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: game where I was like he, like, what's he doing that?
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: During the game, like we were watching, like, oh, here
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: it is. You know, they flush him out, And I
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: mean I do think they get some credit just because
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: I think they had just the timing of their rushes.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: It almost just it made him miss some of the windows.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: I feel like he hit somebod I don't think they would,
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: like to Evan's point, there was some of them. I
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: don't they did flush him. The pressure was the best
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: thing the Patriots did.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: Everything else I think left a lot to be desired.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: And I don't think that some of the throws he
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: missed worrlfully difficult throws. He just holds one of those
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: days just to like comparent, Like we talked about sustainability,
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: which I'm sure like the second hour today is going
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: to be about, you know, the playoff.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Train path, Paul, twelve and five in play.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: And there is a path, yeah, twelve and five, yeah, five, But.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: There are two games they've won so far against the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: AFC East. If they beat Miami, Like, I don't that
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: schedules is favorable to them.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Talk to me, then talk to me. They talk to
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: me when they win the games. Absolutely, yeah, I mean,
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: like I know, but three and five, you're two games
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: out of the playoffs. It's a tot if they wanted.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: The schedule is coming up, Paul, correct the soft underbuilding
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: which they're in right now. They just went one and
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: two in the soft part of the schedule.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's the soft spots.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Washington's in Vegas was a soft part of
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: the schedule.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I haven't played in Washington yet.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Washington Lands in Vegas were a soft part of the schedule. Washington, Washington,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: and Washington. Indeed, Giants, Chargers right, all under five hundred.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: So if they if they w I'm just saying, like,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: if we want to talk about it, like if they.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Were in relation to five hundred with the are the
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: Saints and the Raiders under I don't.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I don't agree those games were easier, but you always
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: had after that, Mike.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll be with I'm with you. Now now they
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: figure if they if they win these guess well, that's
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: different now. But now you're changing the narrative if something
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: happens that hasn't happened, I know.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: But if they I'm in But if they figured it
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: out and they had to play all the top echelon
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: teams coming up, I'd be like, but they have a
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: chance to like kind of get back to the middle
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: in terms of five hundred.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: You know, five and five at the Buyers and play,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: they could they could in play?
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: Well, yes, when you only have five games and we're
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: not you only have five losses. It's in frends. Twelve
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: and five is in play. They've only lost five games.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, but twelve and five is ridiculous.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: Okay, five and five at the buy not really like that.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: No one's penciling them in. I'm just saying it's a
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: possible before.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Literally just it.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: He said it's a possibility.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: He said it.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I was joking about it. But yeah, no, it's if
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: you would, If you, that's I can't you you. But
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: in all seriousness, though, like you don't feel good if
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: they I feel great about Sunday. You know, I'm not
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: talking about this week. But if you don't, if they
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: you don't feel good about Washington and Indie.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: But winning both of those games, and you asked me
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: right now, No, I'll say this little just like I
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: did against New Orleans in Vegas.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: They should get split those teams.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: I just don't know why.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not there.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: I will win, like just change.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not there yet.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Everything I've seen in seven games. One game just changed.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I started out by saying if they beat Miami then
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that we could get on a roll. Yeah, that's because
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: because the because the schedule favors that I.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Still would look at the next two as being probably
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: a split.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Listen right now, you got Miami's like a ten point favorite,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and they should be. They should be.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: That's all.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying. If you can upset Miami in Miami,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: hold on, now, hold on.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I just like, but I don't even know if they
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: have to beat Miami. Well, that's my point. Like, if
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: you if you lose to Miami, but you're competitive against
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Miami and you kind of go toe to toe with
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: them a little bit the next four games in the schedule,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Paul. They're not good teams. It's Washington indeed,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Giant Chargers, you're not either, Okay, But like they if
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: they've found something and they flipped the switch.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Here off, that's different. That's something happens that it hasn't
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: happened yet.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: If they lose a thirty five thirty game to Miami,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: and then we're.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: All going so just saying, if no, no, no, if they
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: flip a switch and play at a level that they
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: haven't played yet, yeah, that's different. Then I'll say I'm
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: not going to sit there and say no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: you're wrong, you're wrong. They didn't play well. But but
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: he followed Sunday they played. Well, if they played the
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: next five games like they played Sunday, I think they
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: they're in there.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I said, if you go down to Miami and your
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: toe to toe with them.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: He didn't even say when I need to see the
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: toe to toe Like people think they went toe to
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: toe in week two, I don't think they did.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: If what we think they've learned this game shows up
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: in Miami, hold.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: On, So all right, this is what I would say, like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: hold on when you when you look, when you look
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: at these I don't know why he always always goes spoken.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: So like the Buffalo, the Buffalo game that they're talking
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: about firing coordinators, they're talking about Josh Allen just didn't
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: have a game, and you look at the game at
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: the end of the day and the statuard like dead.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Even one team played as well as it's played in
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: about two and a half years, another team is looking
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: to fire people. This is my point that that's my
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: only point.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: No, you're you're right, you're right. I just one I
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: want to believe.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: I want to believe. Well, that's the whole time. That's
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: why Fred was like, actually it wasn't for it was Matt.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Matt comes to me yesterday, he goes, Okay, why don't
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: you rain in my parade? I go, I got not.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: I have no rain at all. I said, the Patriots.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: This is kind of this is no, no, no, I'm
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: talking about Sunday, the Patriots on Sunday. I'm happy to
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: talk about any superlative coming out of the game Sunday
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: that anybody took away. I think the Patriots were a
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: better team for sixty minutes on Sunday, and they almost
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: lost the game because of one mistake, which shows you
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: how small their margin of error can be.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I didn't think i'd see what I saw
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: on some.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: I didn't either, So that's why I'm not I'm not
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: raining on any parade about Sunday.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I'm opening the window a little bit.
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: Oh yeah, it's cracking. It's it's it's to me. I
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: wish I had you as a college professor.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: But it becomes you got a seven, did nothing in
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: the seven classes that we had, but you came to
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: the eighth one and you did well. That's an a
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: thanks super Bowl.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: But like I think it comes down to, it comes
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: down to O'Brien.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Like you.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Knew that it was going to be bumpy to start.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: You had to have known that, Like they didn't have
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: a lot of talent on offense. Mac needed to be
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: put back together, he needed to figure out the offensive line,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: and unfortunately they just went one in five. Like I
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: think that if you asked true Sierram Bill Belichick, he
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: would have said, like, we were going to hope the
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: defense was going to carry us and we were going
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: to tread water in the first six or seven games
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: of the season, and they just bottomed out.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: Like that's the difference, right.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: They bottom That's the thing is like it was going
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: this way, it's going downhill, until yesterday it was going
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: in the wrong direction.
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, And I feel like, you know, they obviously could
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: not predict that Christian Gonzales, Matthew Junon, all the Joneses
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: were all going to be hurt. Like I feel like
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: they didn't predict that.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Injuries never helped.
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: And it's like when you when you depended on when
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: he depended on relying on the defense, I think this
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: is where he ended up in trouble.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think that they they didn't There's no way,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: even as as limited as they can be at times,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: offensively that they thought they were going to be thirty
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: second in the league and scoring through six six weeks,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: there's no way. So they probably figured that, Okay, we're
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: going to be probably where we were last year on
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: offense until O'Brien figures this thing out and maximizes what
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: he has. And then I really think over the last
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: six quarters he's come pretty darn close to maximizing what
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: they have. And now you get Pop Douglas back from
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: the injury you kick on when who back out to tackle,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: and like, let's see what happens. Like I'm I'm I
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: kind of thought that this is how it was going
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: to go offensively all along, but I was just hoping
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: that they could keep it together with the defense through
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: the first six weeks, and unfortunately they started one and five.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I hear what EV's saying.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: I just I mean, I just worry that they get
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: into a twelve point hole again or you know, fourteen
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: point hole again, and all of a sudden, we're out
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: of the game plan and we can't do the things
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: we want to do, and now all our awards come out,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: like you know, there's a lot left to prove, and like, yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I think we did expect a little bit of clunkiness
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: early on, and I think maybe went on longer than
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: it should have with the play of the offensive line.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: But I'm not you know, I'm not like, all right,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: we turned the corner and now we're here, like.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I'll go back to how I started. Maybe next time,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: if you go behind by ten or twelve, maybe the
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: line holds up a little bit. Even when the team
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: knows you have to throw. Maybe this configuration of the
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: line is a little better so that you have a
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: puncher's chance of, you know, putting some together where in
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the past you had no shot.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: And that's I mean, I think as as Paul was
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: hinting at, I mean, I really like what they did.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: I like him when you're there, I think, you know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Cities put together two couple of good weeks.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Like I mean, he looks like a player inside. I
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: like him. Do you think that that was like that
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: much better like the past protection in that game? I
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: just think it was a product of the score. Well
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: I'm sure, yeah, I think And now listen when they
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: got hot in twenty twenty one, that's how they did it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: But they played a lot of games like they did Sunday.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: They got the lead, they made the other team chase them,
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: they were able to protect, and they like, I'm not
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: telling you that can't happen Sunday, But against Miami isn't the.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Most important thing, not like, you know, the evidence that
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the line was better. But what Mac thinks.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he felt really comfortable was my point.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, but I agree, well, I think there were times
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: are he panicked?
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Ran, I mean, I'm still looking down At
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: the point I was getting to was that I think
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: strangers continues to be.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: But when they look at that tape and they say, Mac,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you had you had a couple of seconds here, you
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: didn't have to like, yeah, that's gonna help.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: The one thing I think that was encouraging about. You know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I thought for the first three quarters Mack was fine
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: in this game. I didn't really think he was anything special,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: and I thought that he was looking at the rush
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: a lot throughout the game. But in the fourth quarter,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: when the money was on the line, he stood in
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: there and I think he said to himself, either it's
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: gonna blow up in my face or I'm gonna win
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: the game. But either way, I can't be scared.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I can't go.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: It was huge, Like the biggest play of the game
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: was to me, the third down throw to Hunter Henry. Yeah,
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: and the pressure that came immediate was blindside. He never
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: knew it was there. Yeah, Like if that was like
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: up the middle the way it had been against so
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: in strange, you know, earlier or front side. I wonder,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: I wonder if the throw would have been the same
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: because if he had any idea how close Epaneso was
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: to a strip sack there, I don't know if that
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: play ends the same way.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he made some good throws in this game in
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: his muddy year.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: Posets out standing in the fourth yeah.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: And was great in the fourth quarter. But and what
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I think was most encouraging too, was he made a
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: lot of like second and third read throws. Like I
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: think that some of the throws that he's made, even
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: over the last couple of weeks when he hasn't been
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: playing great, have just been first reads, open balls out
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: quickly and we're moving this game, you know. He was
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: able to get off the first read and get his
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: eyes too, number two and two, number three and make
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: throws throughout the progressions. And that was something that I
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: hadn't really seen him do for like a month was
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: move off that you know, staring down receivers, looking at
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: the first read and kind of having tunnel vision for guys.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: And in this game, you know the throw to Pop
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Douglas in the first half off the play action. That
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: play is set up to hit Kendrick Bourne in the
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: flat on a little whip route and it's covered and
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: he comes off it gets to Douglas in the middle
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: of the field, makes the throw. So those are the
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: encouraging things Like that's when you know a quarterback is
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: trusting the pocket a little bit more is when it's
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: not just first read in panic, right, Like, it's that
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: you actually are able to sit there and go through
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: a progression. And he was able to do that in
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: this game.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: So listen, And I'm not kidding myself. I'm thrilled with
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the win. But they're not that great. They're not that
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: good a team right now, and I think this test
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: going on, Miami's going to be tougher than home against
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the Bills.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Like I think you have a shot. I do because
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: I think Miami's in a tough spot and I think
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: that they're real I mean I know, listen, I know
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: we've fixated so much on that injury report, which I
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: think is largely fiction. Like there's seventeen guys questionable, they
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: all play. It's like one guy that didn't play where
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: I think people are looking at that they were missing
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Judean and Gonzales, Like the other team had four starters
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: on defense that was not playing. Like everybody is dealing
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: with the same thing, and Miami's dealing with the same thing.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: That you are.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: So I think you got a shot to go down there.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: If they're missing three, they're missing left tackle, left guard,
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: and center again where they were Sunday night. You can
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: get heat on tour and do the same thing to
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: him that you did to Josh Allen.
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: And especially if Watle is TBD with a back injury too,
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: that could be helpful if he also doesn't play.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like all these teams have stuff.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: Two of their best defensive players banged into each other
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: in the middle of the game. My guess is, like
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: David Long didn't return, I guess he's out. He's probably
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: in concussion protocol.
• 31:44
  Speaker 11: Now.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: Holland I think did return. Jevon Holland, so I think,
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: you know he only missed four plays in the game,
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: so I think he'll probably play. But like, there's a
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: lot of key personnel on all of these teams. Patriots included.
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: It.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Around the league, a lot of crazy games.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Is Oh my gosh, I don't know how you guys
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: know the games are also fixed.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Boy convinced. How bad did we do this week?
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, everybody was bad? This was this was frightening, epic.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, epically bad against Man.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: The Dolphins really took it. They took it bad Sunday night. Yeah,
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: ten penalties to none.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I thought. I had a conspiracy theory.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: This was the Caleb Williams effect. This weekend. A lot
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: of one win teams said, you know what, we don't
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: have to have the top pick, so let's try And
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: seems annoying Minnesota, you know, well didn't didn't didn't They
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: both did both didn't him and Drake may Louse last
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: weekend too. Yeah, so like, you know, you know what,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: let's win some games.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: It's it's funny though, like I just I'm trying to
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: just appreciate this win right now, because it's like, you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: it's so easy to be like, well, they have this
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: coming up and then like this is then and like
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: they could these.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Guys there, you know, get so fat.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Like I just am trying to hold on to just
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: the excitement from this win, the good energy right now,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: and certainly Miami's on my mind, but like thinking about
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Washington and Indie and you know, it's like I can't
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: get there yet. I just I want to enjoy this one.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: I want to look at this week on Wednesday, key yea, make.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Sure well the mood in the locker room that's been
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: I mean this week, it concerns me on one level
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: because I feel like, like I said that earlier, that
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl comment, like the postgame locker room felt
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: like they just want a playoff game, and it's like
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: you're still two and five, Like it's not like lose
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: sight of the fact that you still gotta.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: I can appreciate might be going to the playoffs, but
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: I think I think you're but I did.
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: There will still a lot of talk about Bill Belichick.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: But this is where having a coach like Bill Belichick
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: is key, because he knows that he knows how to
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: temper that locker room. You know, let them have their
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: day and night. But back to work on Whenday work.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: Will that be the best thing for this team?
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this team might need to feel itself a little bit.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I think that they might need a continuation of that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been telling you guys how good you are.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: But that's why I think it's good that they have
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: a Miami team that will have their full attention. Like
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: if they had like a Washington team or you know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: a team just nothing against Washington. Is just a team
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: that not really usually playing you just usually traditionally sting Washington.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: But don't you think they would.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: Lay in it like they might? They might be like,
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: well we got it now, we got it all figured out,
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: and then the team I just don't think, you know,
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: like I don't think when they lose they laid an egg.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: That's the difference between me and everybody else in Boston.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: Like when the Red Sox lose five in a row,
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: I don't think they're struggling. I think they're not that good. Well,
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: they could lose different ways. I mean they could, you know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: I think no, I'd see it.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: But they could also just come out and play crappy
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: because they kind of took the foot off the gas.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: But like I don't know. I just I mean, I
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: see what you're saying. Of course they could have a
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: straight up game, and just like I don't I don't
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: think the Patriots won because Buffalo laid an egg on Sun. No,
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: and that's not I'm pretty consistent on both sides of that, right.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: I think the Patriots one because the Patriots played well, no,
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: you're grasping onto laying an egg and I'm just saying like, no, no, no.
• 34:53
  Speaker 11: Not you.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: This is what they don't play.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: This is like the Royal n not necessarily might do.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, oh, I don't know.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: I just I like the matchup this week because it's
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: it's it's an immediate like truth again. It's it's not like,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: all right, well now we got to beat the Jets
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: this week, and that's a whole different thing.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: You know, that's a whole different kind of pressure.
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: It's like you have a high flying Miami offense now
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: that you know you haven't beaten to us.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: That's and I like it. It's a team you know,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: you know you have to beat them. It's in your division.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: You lost already to them, you know, if they beat
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Miami all three wins against a f C East Patriots
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: run the East.
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: Remind me of your key from starts.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: Right, give you the whole, the whole poem. Oh gosh.
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: It was like get a score and a stop and
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: see if we can something.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I got it.
• 35:45
  Speaker 9: I thought about it like after the came key.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: It was literally start with a stop and a score
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: to see if we can pick ourselves up off the floor.
• 35:55
  Speaker 9: Rhythm, and of course it was his guy. I got
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: the stop.
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: I will, I will Hardy, you know, Hardy hard to
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: come around.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: You got to come around on Jabriel Paul.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Oh, he's played well.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: The guy's playing out of his mind.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: He's making play.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: I think he's played well all year. I bust his Yeah,
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: you know what. I think he's a chippy, dirty player.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: You know that's different dirty. I think Rodney Harrison was,
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: and he's my favorite guys chippy and dirty. I think
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: he's dirty. I think the NFL would agree based on
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: his wallet.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: We were we were talking about Pepper's on PFF because
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: I was like, they didn't give him a mist tackle
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: on that on that touchdown, and.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: So I was talking to and I'm like, he's good,
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Why would we do that?
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: And so I haven't explained it to me, like, you know,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: the pff math of at all of why they don't
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: credit that as a miss tackle, But it was just
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: one of those funny ones where and I said in
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: the post game, like, you gotta be honest.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: But I think he's a little boom playing.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: But for the whole year, I think it's the energy
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: he brings and the fact that you know in that
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: post game video, like how often do you see somebody
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: kind of hijacket for a second and and insert their
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: two cents before you know, Slater takes over to do
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: the thing.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I yeah, So they can talk about
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: that conspiracy, but I just think that the postgame energy,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Like my my whole thing was I don't know if
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: it comes down to the head coach, like, but that
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: a team that doesn't believe in their quarterback and head
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: coach anymore, that doesn't win that game, right, like a
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: team that's completely let go of faith of the whole thing.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they win that game.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: That's a point.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: And I think most importantly just watching was it. Evan
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Washbourne like tried to interview Mac and it took him
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: like twenty minutes because every single player on the Patriots
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: was coming up to Mac after the game to dap
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: him up, Like every single.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: Guy, I think they felt for him.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And I think that Dad tells you a
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: locker room that knows he's taken a lot of heat,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: like from people like us especially, and and is behind him,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: you know. And I know know some of those guys
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: are really close with him off the field too, and
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I think that they care about it.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: But I never I never really questioned effort and I
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: still don't know. Now I do wonder a little bit
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: about belief, but but this is a win for one
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: for one day. For one day, they had belief. When
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: you when you've done it, it's like the Parcels thing,
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: it's like demonstrated ability. So now you've done it, you
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: don't have to say if we can just do this,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: you point to something, your point, Well, we did that
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: against Buffalo. We won the fourth QT. You know, we
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: had two fourth quarter touchdown drives against Buffalo. That's so
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: we did it. There's no need to wonder if they
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: can do it. They've done it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: And you know, for some of these younger guys like
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: City Soo and to Mario Douglas and you know, is
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: it so or so. So you know, hey, I can
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: do this.
• 38:41
  Speaker 13: I have a role here.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I'm contributing to wins.
• 38:44
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: That's that's great stuff.
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: I think to like not to like winning a game
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: at home, like you know, they have one game at
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: home this year.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: That's just something that you know, you you experience the
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: fans and the energy from the fans, and I mean
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: it was just a I mean, going even back to
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame induction, it was just it was
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: a really good Patriots weekend. I feel like, and you know,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: everyone's making fun of me about the good vibes from
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, so but you know, it's just
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: it was a good weekend to be a Patriots fan
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: for the first time that.
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: Felt like this was this is like the first time
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: in a long time that I haven't seen fans leave
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: at halftime.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: And don't come back like everyone stayed to Yeah.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, this was the featured game in Germany, you know,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: so it was good for our German fans. You know,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: that was big.
• 39:24
  Speaker 11: That was big.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: That was where the belief came from. That's right, the
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: featured game.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: They knew Germany was watching for Deutsch.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: Lenn the Father end.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: So good stuff.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I'm back in. They pulled me back in just just
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: like that, Just write that.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: I just enjoyed Sunday.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: You saw them, you know again, the play calling they executed,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: what the play calls were, You saw some potential and players.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: So why not get excited?
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm with you.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: I'm with you.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: What's worst case? They go down to Miami and get
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: their doors blown off and we're back to where we were.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Just we've trashed them every single week on this show
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: and totally rightfully so, so I'm coming in here and
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you they played well. They had a good
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: game plan. The offensive coordinator made his paycheck or whatever
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: that saying is. You know, like they got their money's
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: worth of Bill O'Brien, and the quarterback didn't lose you
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: the game, and then he wanted for you a d.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: And he was largely responsible for you winning.
• 40:27
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 40:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and it was Bill's three hundredth career.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Good stuff.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: Did you see what Dig said after the game? He
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: wants out?
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: No, he said nothing, because he just tucks his tail
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: and runs.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's something he's on. He's on my radar. Like
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: that relationship between him and Josh Allen is on my
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: unhappy well when you miss him for touchdowns like multiple times,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I can understand why.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, but he's unhappy.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and bigger reasons, I kid, But and he's a
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: he's a really good player. Like just that that double
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: move we kind of saw coming from above.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Double move.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: Don't drop the ball to thirty yardline. You're throwing a
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: regular passing to the end zone at the end.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he did, true, he had that ball.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: It was a tougher catch than it looked like.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: I didn't think.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: But that's why he's great.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Supposed to make, supposed to make that.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Five.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: I gotta give Dawson Knox a little bit of slack too.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: Evidently he's surgery on his wrist. Maybe that's why playing
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: with a broken arm, he's playing the long game. Yeah,
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, I gotta yeah, I gotta call space. That's
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: maybe extenuating circumstances there.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Eight five five PATS five hundred is the a stick
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: and hotline web radio at patries dot com. Is the
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: email address? All right? Should we turn it to the listeners? Sure?
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: All right, we'll open it up positivity right.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Eric is in New Jersey.
• 41:48
  Speaker 13: What's up, Eric, I'm sorry.
• 41:51
  Speaker 15: I mean, I gotta Paul, I thank you for being
• 41:54
  Speaker 15: the voice of reasons, you know, two and five team.
• 41:57
  Speaker 15: You know, you gotta be happy for Mac. You know,
• 41:58
  Speaker 15: I don't think he's a long term answer. And I
• 42:01
  Speaker 15: just think you saw it last night herk cousin. I
• 42:04
  Speaker 15: think that's you know, if he plays at the pinnacle
• 42:06
  Speaker 15: of his game. I just don't think that that's sustainable
• 42:08
  Speaker 15: with this roster and where he's at.
• 42:11
  Speaker 14: I mean, do you think this win, now that.
• 42:13
  Speaker 15: You know the team's kind of rejuvenated, you know, does
• 42:15
  Speaker 15: to stop this team from you know, you know, trading
• 42:18
  Speaker 15: off an asset to you know, game one for next year.
• 42:20
  Speaker 15: What's your thoughts on that?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, assuming that they ever would, it's a good question.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: I don't think that there's just.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Change anything for the trading, you know, the trade deadline out.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: There, Like I don't think that they were in that
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: market anyway, But if they were, do you think it
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: should change it? I feel the same like if I
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: if I had a plan to trade like it depends
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: born at the deadline, winning that game wouldn't change my mind.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: But I don't think they have a plan to change
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: line again. One week from today, So.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: One week from today, So after the Miami game, if
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: they win the Miami game and they trade, that would
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: be deflating.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: If they beat Miami, are they buyers?
• 43:03
  Speaker 14: No?
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: No, no, I wouldn't do that either. But like, imagine
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: winning the game and then assuming you win, boy probably
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: had a good game.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: And I would agree with you, like that would be
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: a bad look if they won the game, and you
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: could be like me, like the wet blanket and say,
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: well that just three and five. But if you beat
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: Buffalo in Miami and then you come out of that
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: and you trade like quality.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Pieces, that that's deflating.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: That's bad.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's any chance of that happening, but
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: that would be bad.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: I never thought that there was any chance of them
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: this whole like sell sell, sell, like sell what they
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: don't like, what you don't have anything, Like you're gonna
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: trade Josh for a fourth round pick, Like is that really?
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: Like what is that worth it?
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: If he plays well in the second half of the season,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: you're gonna get a third round compick for him if
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: he signs a big deal in free agencies, So what
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: are you trading him for? Like piling day three picks right,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Like what that that whole like the Patriots should be
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: you know, for sale sign fire, Like what do you say,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Like I I just every especially because all your assets
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: are probably at the lowest value of this they're ever
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: gonna be Like I maybe if you can convince but
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: like if you could, you could have convinced me if
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: like somebody was playing really like if was having a
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: good first half, but he's on a contract year and
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: they're one and six, Like, okay, fine, Like if you
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: don't see him in there in the future, but every
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: single time a guy plays well, like you know, Christian Barmore, now,
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: oh he's a good trade ass Like do you want
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: them to have any good players in twenty twenty four?
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: He's got another year. He's not answering the last year
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: of his deal.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: You know, he's got one more year.
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: You could get a year and a half of really
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: quality play out of him, and then you know, see
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: if you can we just.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: I've gotten so many of you know, these calls, these
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: questions of like what could the you know, could they
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: be sellers?
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: What could they sell?
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: It's not baseball, Like you can't just start problem.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: The problem with people that are asking those questions, and
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: I would ask the questions too, But I think that
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: they think, well, you can trade Kendrick Born for a
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: second round pick because Muhammad to New came for a
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: second round pick, do you know what I mean? And
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: I don't think when people look at those deals as
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: that that was a bad ed.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: You trade mac in a first round pick for Trey
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Lance and Deebo Samuel?
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: What Lance is not on the little three way little
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: three three teams Dallas.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Now now we're the NBA, we got three team.
• 45:21
  Speaker 9: It would have to be what Trey Lance and CD Lamb?
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah click. Now I don't I'm I don't know, I don't.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I just somehow want to get Deebo.
• 45:31
  Speaker 9: I was going to say.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: All these like you know when you Dugger, Like okay,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: maybe like Kyle Duggar's value could not be any lower.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: He's not had a good start to the season. So
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: you're selling low on Kyle Dugger Now, like what why
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: to what point should.
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: Buy low on Kyle Dugger now because this is the
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: chance to get him. What did Kevin Bayer get It
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: was like a fifth and sixth yeah, yeah, right, And
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: and there was a player of a backup safety. I'm sorry,
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: I know he went to I didn't mean to be
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: disrespectful anyway, not credit, But Kevin Byron is an outstanding
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: player and that's what you got. Like so that that,
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: I think that a lot of people. And again I'm
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: not blaming anybody, because all it takes is one team
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: to give you too much. But I just think most
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: of the guys that we're talking about. His possibilities to
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: be traded are going to get you a Day three pick,
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: and in some cases moving up in the in Day three,
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: like moving from the sixth to the fifth round, right
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: or the seventh to the sixth round. I don't think
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of value.
• 46:34
  Speaker 9: What would you give up for Diggs?
• 46:35
  Speaker 16: Fred I worry.
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: About say that, I worry about him.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Good player, I mean he wants to go.
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's I'm telling you, it's amazing Buffalo anti
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: talent bias in this town because the Patriots one with
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: guys like Edelman and Welker and you know, Troy Brown. Like,
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: it's amazing said you.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Want because I like Debo's attitude better and I think
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I think Debo to me, he's just a good football player,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: you know, like Diggs is a great receiver.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: I love Debo, but he's bitching all the time.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: No, he He's also not better than Stefan that as.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: A receiver, but I think he's a better football.
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: You can run the line more.
• 47:20
  Speaker 11: That's great.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: That's why Fred loves that. Fred loves Bill because that's
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: what Bill is all about. Like, oh, can he play
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: on fourth down? Like I just he's physical, man. We
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: can line him up and run running. Why don't I
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: just let my running back do that?
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I just love me some Deebo Samuel.
• 47:35
  Speaker 10: He's a good player, but he's a great player. I
• 47:37
  Speaker 10: love watching him play, but he's not as good as Digs.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know Tim's and Stowe. Hey Tim, Hey, Hey, Hey.
• 47:48
  Speaker 17: I called hcause I actually had a story that you
• 47:51
  Speaker 17: guys might be interesting. I was in San Diego in
• 47:55
  Speaker 17: January and I was golfing with a guy and he
• 48:02
  Speaker 17: was an NFL scout. Yeah, and there we were talking
• 48:07
  Speaker 17: about quarterbacks and I told him, you know, I'm from Massachusetts,
• 48:10
  Speaker 17: I'm a big Patriots fan. What do you think about
• 48:13
  Speaker 17: Mac Jones? And he basically said, you know, four of
• 48:17
  Speaker 17: the five quarterbacks in that draft were overdrafted, and it
• 48:22
  Speaker 17: turns out that he was right, and he said, you know,
• 48:24
  Speaker 17: every year you overdraft quarterbacks, you see teams overdraft quarterbacks,
• 48:30
  Speaker 17: and he said, if you're lucky to hit on one
• 48:32
  Speaker 17: that can just play in the NFL, you should ride
• 48:35
  Speaker 17: it out and build around him, because it's much easier
• 48:38
  Speaker 17: to scout a lineman, much easier scout receivers and really
• 48:43
  Speaker 17: hit on that sort of blue chip talent. And that
• 48:47
  Speaker 17: really suck with me because it was just seems accurate
• 48:52
  Speaker 17: just watching this year play out and watching all these
• 48:55
  Speaker 17: first round quarterbacks that have been drafted, you know, have
• 49:00
  Speaker 17: all the talent in the world, but just don't work
• 49:02
  Speaker 17: out in the NFL. So I think, you know, I'm kind.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: Of again tomorrow move on from mac thing.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:10
  Speaker 17: And the other thing I was thinking is, you know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 17: what's the likelihood that we can find a way to
• 49:17
  Speaker 17: resign Trent and and Mike on?
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: Oh god, if they if they resigned Trent Brown, I'm
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: out again. Fred. I'm telling you, I'm going Richard Seymour on.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: You for real.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Got to get somebody there, though.
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody that that I can rely on to play
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: every snap of you know, the games.
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: You don't want the top ten tackle.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: All you guys all right, thanks to So it was
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: Tim's point, like, hold on to Mac what he was
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: going to ride it out?
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm confused as because the the scout told him
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: he was overdrafted, but then but then said, if you
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: find someone who can just play. But but I'm thinking
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: that the scout doesn't think they found someone who can
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: just play. Yeah, based on the based on.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Theore he came back against Balot, that was obviously before that.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: But it's it's still generally where I am like, you know,
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: it's I mean, of course it's a game changer if
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: you're in the top couple picks. But I still think
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: I can see a scenario where Mac is back next
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: year and they make some more wife around.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: More often more likely than not, Mac is back next
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: year because I just don't think that they're going to
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: go hog wild into the draft again. And listen, most
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: of the good quarterbacks in the NFL, we're taking it
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: with top ten picks. I know everybody thinks that they're
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: all busts, but if you want to get a really
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: good quarterback, that's where you have to get it. There's
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: a couple of Dak Prescott's and Russell Wilson's around, but
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: there aren't many. Most of the really good quarterbacks in
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: the NFL were top ten picks, so you can just
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: not take one.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: But I guess That's where.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: I'm at though, is like you know you, I mean,
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: do you just pinch your nose and hope that because
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: you're in the top ten and you might not you're
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: not love the guy, like you know, you love the
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: top two guys, but in your stock, I.
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: Hope, but I hope I can get one, That's all,
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: Like I don't want to. I think that the scout
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: was probably right about the over draft, Like I think
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: it started right at the top with Zach Wilson, I
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: mean number two. With Zach Wilson, he.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Was definitely over you know. But to say Trevor Lawrence
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: and Justin Fields were overdrafted, I think is well.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: I think that Trevor Lawrence is the one he was saying.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Wasn't right for but he but so then he included
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Justin Fields.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I think he believe that. I think Justin
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: Fields can play. I think, you know, like I think
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: there's some talent like the two guys that are playing
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: right now in in Stroud, in in Bryce Young Stroud
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: especially obviously, but I think I think Bryce Young has
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: shown flashes of really good ability and he's on a
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: bad team and it's tough, and I get why that,
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: you know, he can't you know the word again, sustain
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: it for sixty minutes, but he's shown flashes of being
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: able to play.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that I'm I am back in
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: on this season and being competitive, but the jury is
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: still out on the long term future of the team.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: And that's head coach included, Like I'm still not I'm
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: not just sitting here saying that, like now all of
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: a sudden, like we build around Mac and Bill is
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: back and like, let's just no, I mean, they still
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: have a lot of issues and Max still needs to
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: do it again and again and again before I'm like
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: all right, you know, he's the quarterback of the future
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: in the franchise QB. So it's one game where I
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: can say, all right, that was probably close to their best,
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: but I think that they're actually were mistakes made along
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: the way that they could be even better than that
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: in certain areas, but in general, like that doesn't change
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: the long term outlook of the team to me, at
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: least all right.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: We got a lot of calls, a lot of emails
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: to get to, but Paul needs time to eat, so
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: we'll be right back after that.
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  Speaker 16: They're first. Quinn and hold the cheer, Patriots fully upset.
• 53:41
  Speaker 16: Maybe that catch you.
• 53:41
  Speaker 13: Going telling on a deep drop looking at stas shop
• 53:45
  Speaker 13: fires or recoversons there.
• 53:48
  Speaker 16: Keep kind of fun of the receiver.
• 53:49
  Speaker 12: And as the Patriots want to take away and they
• 53:52
  Speaker 12: fall from the twenty five.
• 53:54
  Speaker 16: That's a big one right there. I said, it's gonna
• 53:56
  Speaker 16: be the Safeties today.
• 53:58
  Speaker 19: With thirst rotations versus Josh Allen. They gotta stay fresh,
• 54:02
  Speaker 19: play them all. Hell of a read by Peppers paided
• 54:04
  Speaker 19: him into the pick.
• 54:05
  Speaker 13: Seventh interception for Allen this season, the fifth career in
• 54:09
  Speaker 13: theft for Jabril Peppers. He drops any lay fas he
• 54:13
  Speaker 13: stands in, he throws.
• 54:14
  Speaker 16: Down, I'm darving call.
• 54:16
  Speaker 13: Honey, I got the left.
• 54:17
  Speaker 11: Looks at the call in the numbers.
• 54:18
  Speaker 13: He makes the grab of the ten with.
• 54:20
  Speaker 11: The fluck on the play, he got it.
• 54:23
  Speaker 19: Ma's complaining here, so I guess some extracurricular activity after
• 54:27
  Speaker 19: the whistle with Max back in the pocket, but he
• 54:30
  Speaker 19: hates been there and hits s Douglas on the little
• 54:32
  Speaker 19: of the little drag route.
• 54:33
  Speaker 16: They tugged his shoulder. Good calls from the back judge, so.
• 54:36
  Speaker 11: They got the penalty.
• 54:37
  Speaker 16: I'm gonna decline it.
• 54:38
  Speaker 13: Take the game Mac with again, Elliott corns up the
• 54:41
  Speaker 13: middle ten.
• 54:42
  Speaker 12: He cour screens is way into the episode, touchdown Patrins.
• 54:48
  Speaker 19: We got a ten point laid and fox pro lot
• 54:52
  Speaker 19: of time that's happened, gets your defensive arrival. The Buffalo Bills,
• 54:57
  Speaker 19: who are now the hunted, they have been the hunter.
• 55:01
  Speaker 11: Then it's Murray in the slot live with Kim Camp.
• 55:03
  Speaker 13: We're gonna get tight end in the right slot. Julieceivers
• 55:06
  Speaker 13: tight end. Davis and Dick s got do staph m
• 55:09
  Speaker 13: Allen three man watch. He stands and he's pressure.
• 55:11
  Speaker 11: He steps that.
• 55:12
  Speaker 13: He throws it to the nzun wide offen.
• 55:14
  Speaker 11: Nobody got the tight end.
• 55:15
  Speaker 13: Dawson Knox touchdown, Buffalow.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you, come up.
• 55:21
  Speaker 16: Full deployment right there, total spread.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: We've got a pumpy though.
• 55:24
  Speaker 16: Where is a flag? Offensive and appearance.
• 55:29
  Speaker 13: It's a good picking driving Douglas Jack Pedley does the
• 55:31
  Speaker 13: thirty just inside the number. He starts left him and
• 55:33
  Speaker 13: he slips on Jetty. Why he's trying to circle the
• 55:36
  Speaker 13: outside chat.
• 55:36
  Speaker 12: Buddy Johnson to the THTI forty five ten teams tired
• 55:39
  Speaker 12: and the buffluck arn.
• 55:41
  Speaker 13: Dorety because Tyler Johnson eventually talked to Maurial tuglas Ut
• 55:45
  Speaker 13: before the rookie returns it to the Buffalo forty five.
• 55:48
  Speaker 19: This kid is making some place. Babe Pourian offense makes
• 55:51
  Speaker 19: one year. The kicking game almost up kicks the covered here.
• 55:54
  Speaker 19: It's a hell of a fun makes two guys. Mess
• 55:56
  Speaker 19: gets to the right boundary and we're in plus.
• 55:58
  Speaker 8: On in.
• 56:00
  Speaker 11: Motion into the back of all. It takes the step.
• 56:03
  Speaker 11: He fakes a whack. Keep up the middle hat in
• 56:06
  Speaker 11: golf Christian Barmore with Sam Roberts and the.
• 56:10
  Speaker 13: Wives, eventually assisting, that's big.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: That a huge.
• 56:17
  Speaker 16: Good coach by Marmore. Finally in the middle here.
• 56:21
  Speaker 11: The motion into the back can all it takes the step,
• 56:24
  Speaker 11: He fakes a black keeps up the middle hat in
• 56:27
  Speaker 11: Golf Christian Barmore.
• 56:30
  Speaker 13: With Sam Roberts and the wives, eventually assisting, that's big.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: That is huge, good coach by Barmore.
• 56:40
  Speaker 16: Finally in the middle, hire me down.
• 56:42
  Speaker 13: Mart Way's on the staf He has his way to
• 56:44
  Speaker 13: the right leg kick lit into the upright can.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: No good?
• 56:50
  Speaker 19: All right, you got three timeouts one fifty one. You
• 56:55
  Speaker 19: get the ball where the kickless myths come. Don't forget
• 56:58
  Speaker 19: about that.
• 57:00
  Speaker 11: My vision for the back up for allan a days
• 57:02
  Speaker 11: to step drops back, He pumps.
• 57:04
  Speaker 13: He looks nucky, throws it for open.
• 57:06
  Speaker 11: Cocage and he missed it. Too cold to throw for
• 57:08
  Speaker 11: the night d sailing one to the Patriots back.
• 57:11
  Speaker 13: You hear what, there's a late flve cleek plate for
• 57:13
  Speaker 13: the referee drops it at the turf.
• 57:17
  Speaker 16: Hell is this call?
• 57:22
  Speaker 13: Jack?
• 57:23
  Speaker 16: Jack Jones, helmets and helmet.
• 57:27
  Speaker 13: Launch Alan and Bellows character he said four thirteen.
• 57:35
  Speaker 16: N Look at Bellows. Mister ball's gone and he takes
• 57:39
  Speaker 16: two steps.
• 57:39
  Speaker 10: And bits of me.
• 57:40
  Speaker 16: He do it, especially to that guy.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: He's gonna pump quota backs.
• 57:44
  Speaker 13: They're gonna call it a and now he works with
• 57:47
  Speaker 13: knots lined up to the left, three receivers to the
• 57:50
  Speaker 13: light side, white, third and goal from the height. Alan
• 57:52
  Speaker 13: throws it to Cook, cleeks out the five makes the
• 57:54
  Speaker 13: kid got fine. Peppers dies to the pylon, cutch down Buffalo.
• 57:59
  Speaker 19: So it's hard pread even Cook on his drive and
• 58:01
  Speaker 19: extended plays a core tackling out on the Platt left flat.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: It's a good after by Cup baked a nice touchdown.
• 58:08
  Speaker 13: That's a big series where James took only his second
• 58:11
  Speaker 13: touchdown reception in his two.
• 58:12
  Speaker 11: Years in the NFL.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: That stop fight.
• 58:19
  Speaker 11: Coming down touchdown Patrian.
• 58:23
  Speaker 19: And mack Joe's giving it to Poyer right now because
• 58:25
  Speaker 19: he got late head of Jones's girl.
• 58:27
  Speaker 16: Joe's hung in there, makes the blow.
• 58:29
  Speaker 19: He's gotta feel good about this one, but going for two.
• 58:32
  Speaker 19: Gotta huddle up here, Mack. Joe settled it down. It's
• 58:35
  Speaker 19: a great row come horn in the left cut and
• 58:38
  Speaker 19: Joe's gets hit from behind by Poyer. They still makes
• 58:40
  Speaker 19: the delivery. Excellent job by Kendrick blows getting it.
• 58:44
  Speaker 13: In and now the offense, extending the lead to two.
• 58:47
  Speaker 16: Score two tight ends to the right.
• 58:49
  Speaker 13: Jones take the sap. He tries to sneak it off
• 58:51
  Speaker 13: the left side and he did.
• 58:53
  Speaker 11: Not get there.
• 58:54
  Speaker 16: I don't understand it that Joe bat off the.
• 58:56
  Speaker 13: Left guard goes down practically the line of scrimmage.
• 59:02
  Speaker 16: I should have given it to Zeke.
• 59:05
  Speaker 11: Alan taking staff of Foot's coming good hand fire.
• 59:08
  Speaker 12: Shoday make a sliding gap with the sex pops doing
• 59:11
  Speaker 12: oh my god, print scurries into.
• 59:13
  Speaker 11: The end zone.
• 59:15
  Speaker 13: Touchdown Buffalo that he went down a slit.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: He was not futs.
• 59:21
  Speaker 16: I want to throw by Allen. He got clolked off
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  Speaker 16: the blitz off the back side. He didn't see it.
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  Speaker 13: It is a scoring play, so we will be reviewed.
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  Speaker 11: Know he got him.
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  Speaker 3: He's in.
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  Speaker 13: That is an incredible for a rally of half cleticism
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  Speaker 13: like Stefan Diggs.
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  Speaker 16: That's the number one right there, boy, who wow?
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  Speaker 13: Want a round the sliding here are you wedding using
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  Speaker 13: his hand to quickly spring to his feet.
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  Speaker 11: All in the spinerama g rid of the end zone.
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  Speaker 13: And now with the stat that Jones dropping back fire
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  Speaker 13: sid in theres I got by Burt Born coming back.
• 59:53
  Speaker 14: He loves at the ball.
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  Speaker 12: He buckles in at the thirties and the Bills have
• 59:57
  Speaker 12: it foot following covers head drink horn caught the Pats.
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  Speaker 12: He turned to me inside and the bass dripped three
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  Speaker 12: and eventually recovered by Bernards Out.
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  Speaker 16: George's lawyer, Jordan's lawyer.
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  Speaker 13: He said, he's up, believable.
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  Speaker 11: Allan dropping the left foot back, he kicks the staff.
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  Speaker 13: He leans over the left guard, surging forward, hooking for
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 13: the call. He got it touched down by below. The
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  Speaker 13: Bills are taking the lead with one fifty three to go.
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  Speaker 16: Man, they got a look at chew here.
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  Speaker 13: Steven get out there and Joni takes the stab longed
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  Speaker 13: to throw letters from Bari Stevensons to the.
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  Speaker 16: Card, crusting by forty five. Bill.
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  Speaker 3: He's not going right.
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  Speaker 11: Summer forty checked out a bass cover.
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  Speaker 13: No yeah, but he the rips a blog.
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  Speaker 16: However, they're quoting another of those man tell the build he's.
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  Speaker 13: Seven yard line's quarterback mat Joe Wi the same official
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  Speaker 13: with the same call.
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  Speaker 16: Who is his clown on the left side.
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  Speaker 19: It's called two consecutive drove killers an eligible town build
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  Speaker 19: off on one second.
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  Speaker 11: Throw and again, man, there's no way secretion.
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  Speaker 13: All it in the plink of an eye.
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  Speaker 16: That's what I'm saying. The balls out. The ball was
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  Speaker 16: out on the pire.
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  Speaker 11: One and Darian Loan involve me.
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  Speaker 13: Three officials conclude, here's the ball the fleet Laman, So
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  Speaker 13: they may wave it off.
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  Speaker 19: You're better they're gonna wave it all his house of
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  Speaker 19: play down here Belichick is losing it. He is losing
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  Speaker 19: it on his clown on the left side, the Blake block.
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  Speaker 11: For twenty of time.
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  Speaker 13: They jop this back to Joe next to Rush is coming.
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  Speaker 13: Joan throws down the.
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  Speaker 12: Clock guy Henry at the twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: Just before Matt Jones took a shot.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 11: He threw to the tight end Henry to make Crab
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  Speaker 11: on the fire hatch at the.
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  Speaker 13: Twenty five with a hit by Taylor raund Jones handed
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  Speaker 13: listened to his wife closing, and I got it. He
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 13: touched down.
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  Speaker 16: I was gonna hatred. There he is, Mike is sicky
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  Speaker 16: off the side.
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  Speaker 19: Of a pill carton catching the day w winter on
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 19: a'll look in from Jones to the right slot and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 19: it is the drive that Mac Jones has needed. And
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 19: there it is on the twenty fifth completion of the game,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 19: touchdown to MICASICKI up and look it. That's a hell
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 19: of a job personnel wise, Billy O'Brien changing it up
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 19: and the ball put in the perfect spot. Mismatch likewise,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 19: that's what Micasiki should be doing.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 13: Allen takes a snap, nobody runs Josh, Allen's old right,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 13: who's burst up?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 11: He's cast the liner tripping.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 20: Allan's gonna drop content that even and Premden school of
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 20: slides and comber up and the Patriots can celebrate your
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 20: first winning all the year and upset a Buffalo by.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 13: A twenty nine twenty five finals.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 19: You got life, baby now all of a sudden the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 19: two and five and look at the excitement by Mac.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 16: Jones, And boy does he deserve this one.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 13: I've been hearing it.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 16: He's MC getnet.
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  Speaker 19: The head coach has a day were Buffalo said it
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 19: probably thought they're gonna have an easy time with you.
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  Speaker 16: Patriots fully upset. Maybe that gets you going. Maybe this
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 16: gets you going?
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 1: Matt and the booth were we're coveling over this win.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what that means.
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  Speaker 1: We're having a good time.
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  Speaker 5: We're having good time.
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  Speaker 1: We're full of happiness.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, now we must do that then some joy.
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  Speaker 14: Hey? Gang.
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  Speaker 15: How's you going? Can you hear me?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah?
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  Speaker 14: Okay. So, so I've been living in New York the
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 14: past two years. I've been Boston for nine before that,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 14: and I'm here for the weekend for my brother's birthday.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 14: I surprised him with tickets to the game over the
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 14: weekend and could not have been a better game to
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 14: come back to, for sure. Honestly, I was more ecstatic
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 14: after that than you know, the last Super Bowl that
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 14: that we actually won, which is pretty crazy. I don't yeah,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 14: the game and whatnot. The previous game I've been to
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  Speaker 14: was for my brother's birthday last year, the Bears game,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 14: which was complete polar opposite of what this last one was.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 14: And you know, after the Bears game last year, my
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 14: years were glued to sports radio. It's probably the first
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  Speaker 14: time I really listened to sports radio in that and
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 14: PU has definitely turned into, you know, my my favorite
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 14: out of all the ones that I've run through. And
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 14: a sports fan in New York, you know, being a
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 14: past fan in New York hasn't been easy staying connected
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 14: with everything, and you guys have been doing an incredible
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  Speaker 14: job keeping me grounded, and you know, I've never felt
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 14: more of a past fan since since moving and being
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 14: able to come back and hear you guys talking about
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 14: the game and being at it as well too, and uh,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 14: you know, I've never been been prouder as a fan
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  Speaker 14: given how the season's gone. And I really appreciate what
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  Speaker 14: you guys are doing.
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  Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Andrew, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, we don't get a lot of better stretch.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: You know, you had mentioned that the players, although in fairness,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: most of those players weren't part of that last Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if Matthew Slater necessarily felt the same way, but.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Todd's in North Carolina. I hate Todd.
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  Speaker 21: Hey, guys, I really like the Evans follow up of
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 21: the evaluation of the team and how he thought this
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 21: is what they thought they were doing or what they
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 21: were going to get from their offense early, and you know,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 21: it just took a while for it to evolve. My
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 21: question is, what do you think their record would be
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 21: if their offense was, you know, doing was playing at
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 21: this level to start out with? And why did it
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 21: take it longer to evolve to this stage than that
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 21: they thought? Like, what was the mistake they made evaluating
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 21: the offense? Saying, hey, you know this Elfant should be
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 21: about at this level at this time and go through there.
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  Speaker 21: Thanks guys, I really appreciate it, and you do find up.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that my whole point was that they
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: knew it was always going to take a little bit
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  Speaker 3: like I don't think that they thought they were going
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: to come out week one against Philly like Gangbusters. I
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: think they probably played better Week one against Philly than
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: they maybe thought they would, like honestly on offense, so
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: in terms of like what obviously the health and the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: changes on the offensive line where we're huge in this game,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: and that that was something that you can really point
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: to that this change like significantly. But in terms of
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: scheme and like evolution of the offense, I think that
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: that's the whole point is that they were It didn't
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: make mistakes early on in the year. It just was
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: all It just took time. It took time for O'Brien
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  Speaker 3: to get it up and running.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think the record would have been told, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I wanted you feel that I wanted you a trip
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: to Fantasy Inland to go first. I'll say four and
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: three that's what I was gonna say. I think they
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: would have beaten Philadelphia, and I think they would have
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: beaten Las Vegas. Yeah, four and three, definitely Vegas. Give
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: him the Vegas one. Vegas is going to be. I
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: think the Chicago game in last year, where you're like,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: how do we lose that game? I mean, I know
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: they were on the road.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe not entirely the same because Chicago was epically terrible,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: but the result of last week's Raiders game, it was like, man,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: they let one get away.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: But that's like strict just total speculation, Dan.
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  Speaker 8: I also think they made the Saints look way better
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  Speaker 8: than what they are too. I think, you know, obviously
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 8: you can't play though, like what if they didn't turn
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 8: the ball over so many times, maybe maybe the Saints
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 8: wouldn't have had so many points.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 9: But the Saints were not as good as what the
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 9: scoreboard looks.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Is it true that in the Saints game that defense
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: went into the game ranked tenth and came out ranked eighth?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know. The Patriots defense, Yeah.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: That's what somebody from RPR staff told me.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: It doesn't sound right, But I don't know, like ranked.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Him what ye overall defense? How they do it?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because I think that's years ago.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Bill still does that, Oh we were for nineth at yards.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: His disdain for the greatest coaches ever lived is really.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: Now just old admirable, just old archaic, old archaic stats.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Defensive stats never made sense the way they ranked defenses.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it was no but like, I don't care
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  Speaker 5: what they were Like this is where I was sort
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: of going Evan's side, Like, I don't care what they
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: were ranked. They didn't play well defensively against the Saints.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: They didn't. I know, they didn't give up most of
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: the points. I know the offense was responsible for a
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  Speaker 5: big chunk of those points. When they played defense that day.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: They didn't play very well and they didn't give up
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: a lot of yards that day, So they maybe moved
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: up because the other team didn't have that many yards
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: to go to get touchdowns. But they got touchdowns, you
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like they scored thirty four points.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: I don't know, like I think you could make stats
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  Speaker 5: say kind of whatever.
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  Speaker 3: You take care of.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Trod and Vermont, fine, I'll do it. GM Bill credit
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: for a personal decision. Bringing J. C. Jackson back was
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: a good move, and he's been much better than I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: thought with the injuries. To jud And and Gonzalez. The
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: fact that they can still kind of cover and rush
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: the passer is really encouraging. Also, Barmore and Peppers are
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: difference makers. Peppers is stepping up as a leader. Really
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: hope they keep it going.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. I mean, that's funny.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Evan.
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  Speaker 4: I keep sick in my head with Evan's like, I
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: don't know, he just still looks like jac Jackson, Like
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: he still just kind of looks like jac Jackson.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 7: Takes a couple of plays, he gives up a couple
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 7: of plays.
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  Speaker 8: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I really agree with the Peppers part. I do think
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: he has stepped up as a leader too. I think
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: that's part of the thing. And Barmore we talked about
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: at the top of the show, like I love Barmore,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: but that's the I haven't seen.
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  Speaker 7: That guy, and that's why waiting for right this is
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 7: what we thought we were getting.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: And he was dominant.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was really good against the Raiders too. And
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: I talked to him last week and I was like,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: you know, I film against the Raiders pretty darn good
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: and he was like, no, not not good enough. And
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, like okay, kind of dominated and
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: he was like, uh no, not good enough in the
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: pass rush. You know, didn't didn't think he was impactful
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: enough in the past run. I agree, and then this
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: week he comes out and he's just this game. Yeah,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: all right, I guess he was right. I guess there
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: was another level.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: And this is where I always got, like I get
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: arguments of Fred because when he plays a game like this,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: this is what people told me he did last week,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: and this is what I'm telling no, no, no, no,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: this was dominance. I thought he was like one of
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 5: a small handful of the best players in the field.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 13: Had to have it.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: I thought he was really big.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: They need him to continue to play that way if
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: they're going to have a real chance of winning some
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: more games here and j.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: C ben been okay. Yeah, some of the stats I've
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: seen out there about j C and how good he's been,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: watch the film.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 22: But they need it, okay, Yeah, it was just they
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 22: needed okay and to get an okay guy at this
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 22: point when you look at last year, the injuries struck
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 22: like who they kind of were dunk stuck with there
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 22: at the end, Like you know.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: He's been fine, No, he's been okay, and they need
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: it Okay, I totally agree with that, but there were
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: plays on the film that he did not give up
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: that he should have given up over the last three weeks.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Mike writes in did von Miller play? I didn't notice
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: him once sign of when you he's a leader?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think now he's still coming working his way
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: back from that.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Sign when you you when he's the leader. Jennings and
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Balmore have both stepped up on d I like what
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: I saw after the game in the locker room number
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: five stepping up and being a leader. A win this
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: week and they have a shot to make the play I'll.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 5: Tell you, sorry to spoil that narrative. The Anthony Jennings.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: He's getting a new contract here right like that is
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: just like I feel like the slam dunk of all
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: slam dunks of the Amphony Jens for nothing.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: No no, no, for like what would he make?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 21: Oh?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but he'll be back. I need to
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: know what he's gonna get before I tell you everything.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think he'd be game, Like, I don't know,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: this is their kind of guy, you know, he looks
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: just like their kind of guy. He's playing tough like
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: he's not nobody really gonnap peel to anybody wants like
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: a primary pass rusher.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: But I just think it's gonna be one of those
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: middling gun of deals, and.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: I was actually asking non snarkily for a change, because
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: I have no idea what kind of a contract a
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: player like that would get. My gut instinct with Anthony
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: Jennings would be he can't wait to get out of
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: here because I got to sit around and be inactive
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: while you know, yeah, I don't want to be disrespectful,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: but Evan consistently mentions a person who's always active and
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: always has a role in the game, who I've never
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: really seen do anything. Oh and and he's inactive like
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: the first couple of weeks. I would think a guy
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: like Jennings, if he can get something on the open market,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: would go. Now. If he can't, you might as well
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: stay well, you're comfortable and you already know this is
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: the guy. He's a guy Mak Wilson. You make fun
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: of him all the time.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: Oh god, I have a rant about that second. Yeah,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: Anthony Jennings agree with every once in a while. And
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: so Anthony Jennings, I say this like one hundred percent sincerity.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: Where would they be on the edge without Anthony Jennings
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: right now? Really well, like Judan Keon White all missing
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: from this game, and he played extremely well. Like I'm
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: not saying he's like an All Pro player now, but
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: like he played really well for what your expectations are
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: for Anthony Jennings multiple weeks now. He is set the
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: edge of the defense and he's pushed the post. So
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: if you're done his.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: Job, couldn't you see him like saying like, yeah, now
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: that you had no other options, you'll let me play
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: and I can play Like screw, I'm going somewhere else.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: I mean I could see that, and I mean I
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: kind of relate it. Not totally the same, but Rabel
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: talking about, you know, I was stuck behind two guys.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: I wanted to get a chance to start.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 7: I wanted to see they were stuck behind guys that
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 7: were good right right, well, like he.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: Was stuck behind like I even forget I'm gonna mess
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: it up now with the timeline. But I mean Greg Lloyd,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: maybe I don't like there was some great outside linebacker
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: or yet. I think Joey Porter came later. Maybe Kendroll
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like, you're getting the chance now,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: he's finally getting a chance to play. I mean, they
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: have nothing else, like Evan said, but he's getting an
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: opportunities playing well.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: I think he's played really well and I've had him
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: one of he's been one of my early additions to
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: the good list in the last two weeks.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's made some plays. I agree, he flashes right away.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: He flashes early, which I think this team needed some
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: of that energy coming out of the gate.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: And he even did it. What was that? What was
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: the game?
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: Was it the Raiders game that he had the TfL
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: like right off the off the bat, like you know,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: he's done it a few times, like where he's made
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: a play early Josh Jacobs like a five year loss.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, doing that stuff in preseason two, you know, just
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: getting around tackles, showing a little bit more shimmy than
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: he had.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's a big, long, powerful guy. He's just
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 7: a good fit for their defense.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just you know, to the point that
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: we always make about injuries happen, use it as an
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: oportunity to place some young guys.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: He's not a young guy.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: At this point, but I still think he's getting an opportunity,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: and it's like, all right, well, you don't have really
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: any depth of at edge right now.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: If he has no options, I think you're right. I
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: think he'll end up staying here on a very affordable
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: contract just because like why would you leave? And I
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: just wonder, disrupt if you don't.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: So ke On White's coming back, right, and you figure
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: that he would cut into any future playing time a
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: little bit for Jennings. But to Mike's point, like, isn't
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: paying Anthony Jennings like a team friendly deal more Patriots
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: than overpaying josh U j Right, So like like I
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: could see his opportunities increasing here next year because is
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: not going to be here anymore. Maybe Keon Whites looked
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: at as a guy that's probably more of like a
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: defensive end instead of a true edge guy in the future.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden, you know they're playing together.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: In Berlin, says Breedings from Deutsch, Lynn and sempify. Matt
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: just curious, what was your mos I was three to
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: one one in eighty five forty one. You'll have to
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: explain to Fred what that means.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: All of us I don't know what an eighty five
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: to forty one is, but I was also no. Three eleven.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, three eleven.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, explain to me like I'm five basic riflemen. Okay,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: that sounds terrifying.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Nice, it's terrifying. Nice. Team win yesterday. Maybe I'm showing
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: my age. But what's the deal with the gritty? And
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: how does one know a good gritty when you see one?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what Kasiki means when he says
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: his version after the game when he touched down was
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: the worst ever. Yeah, I'm sure it's fun. But both
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: his and match looked the same.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah they were both. Those are the white guy gritty.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: Go watch Justin Jefferson do the Yeah, well, pretty much
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: any other point on the NFL where my son Campbell
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: he can do it too.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. As far as the game and the rest
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: of our season goes, we might not pile up more wins,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: but a consistent old line will go a long way
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: to playing respectable football and build towards next season. Maybe
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: we don't need to move on from Mac As we
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: see he can make plays with pedestrian receivers as long
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: as he has time to read the offense. Focus on
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: building a solid to elite offensive line through the draft
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: as well as a number one wide receiver would certainly
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: make the rebuild or whatever. This is a bit easier.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: If we did not have to start over at the
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: quarterback position. We could still finish the season with good
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: draft position. We could be in the running for MH junior.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: So you're gonna be picking in the top three, yeah,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: Or but that email was all over the place, Like
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: Max showed he can make plays, so stick with him
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: and build around him. But they're gonna be like to
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: get Marvin Harrison junior. Like, I don't know how those
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 5: two things equate.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 7: How can Mac have a good rest of the year
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 7: and they still finish third worst team in the league.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know, I don't know. I think if
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 5: they play like they did Sunday, they're gonna find a
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: way to win too many games to get Marvin Harrison junior. Ops.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: I mean they might have already won the twenty games
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: to get him though, right there.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 13: I like that that.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: It was like there's like twelve teams right now. It
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: was an amazing day, Like everybody everybody won except for Arizona. Yeah,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: it's a it's a log jam. Like the Giants won
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: Denver one, Denver one. Denver never wins.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: I think that people we get like a lot of
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: the Marvin Harrison junior stuff, like do people realize that
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: he's going to go number two in the draft? Like
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: I know, that's why I just said, right, you know,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: like I doesn't watch that game, by the way, which
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: one the Michigan game? Now, I mean the Ohio State
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: Penn State game.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: Now, it was one. There was one guy worth watching
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: on the field the whole game.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: It was him.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's incredible.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: He won the game by himself.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 14: He is.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: The only way he doesn't go number two overall is
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: if two quarterbacks go off, if Caleb Williams and Drake
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: Mayboles go one two, but then he's going three.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: So if you have to be wire, probably a trade.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: But yeah, and and and when I say there was
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: no other players, I know that a lot of people
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: watch college football. The Penn State's got a good defense,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 5: they have some good players, a lot of good NFL.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: They have some good players on both sides of the ball.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: But Marvin Harrison was just a cut above everybody on
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: the field the other day.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna tea you, Evan, so Ucha didn't play,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: and so they basically just move mac Wilson kind of
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: outside of his comfort zone, which is usually I'm not
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: gonna be snarky, usually playing off the ball, so playing
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: kind of off the edge as a pass rusher and
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: Evan what did the film say?
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: I want to know what their obsession is with mack Wilson,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: Like people like ask me all the time, like what's
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: their obsession with Miles Bryant. I get it with Miles Bryant, Like,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: I know he's not the greatest player of all time,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: but I can see why they like him in a
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: specific role in their defense. Mac Wilson, to me, makes
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: zero impactful plays anytime they put him out there. I
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: just don't understand what the obsession was with this player.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: And then you look at I think a perfect example
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: is the twenty eight yard pass to James Cook, which
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: was the one extended play that Josh Allen made in
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: the entire game. And mac Wilson is spying Josh Allen
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: and he's in a freaking blender. He has no idea
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: where he's going, and it's like, why can't Marty mop
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: who do this? Like if he's gonna get lost anyways,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: Like then why not let the rookie get lost and
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: see what the rookie has? Like why this is when
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: people talk about like they want to play the young
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: guys and they don't want Bill to play. There's not
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: a whole lot of examples of that because there's just
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: not a ton of young guys healthy on the roster right.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: Now next week.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: But one example of it, through and through is why
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: Mac Wilson was in the game plan and Marty mop
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: who wasn't. It makes zero sense. And maybe that twenty
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: eight yarder to James Cook doesn't happen. If the spy
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: actually can close on the quarterback and disrupt the quarterback
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: from making that throw, it's unbelievable.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: Fifteen snaps for Wilson, ten for yeah, well maybe that'll
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: be the next thing that he takes our advice on
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 5: tackle and pop as a focal point.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 7: I know you made the whole joke about like you
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 7: know that I just called am Sorry, sorry I ask
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 7: my question.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 5: Not Anti, but you know his family named Mario.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 7: We make these things of like you know, oh, they shouldn'
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 7: listen to us, like we're just the guys in the radio.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: But like Paul, you've.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 7: Watched for you guys have watched football for like thirty years.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 7: Like I think that that carries at least a little
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 7: bit of weight.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: Like I mean, you know, I've watched football and studied
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: it closely for I don't know, since like two thousand
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: and six, where it is sixteen seventeen years. I mean,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: like we do watch this stuff. Like I don't think
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: like you could just take our opinions and just chuck them,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, like I know we're
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: not at that level of coaches and knowing their schemes
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: and everything that goes on, but it's like we.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 5: Care, we watch, and like it's just it's frustrating because
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: I want him.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, really, Michael, when us better at right
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 7: tackle than Venerian Low?
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: Like I mean maybe they have alternatively, you know, other
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: reasons why they're playing guys like that and you know,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: trying to make something happen, But I don't know.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: I just think that I want to bring that watch
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: it a lot. Do you guys all his press come? Yeah?
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: All three of you? Okay, did you guys hear him?
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: But who response a little bit? What did you guys
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: think of the tackle uh reaction. So maybe that's part
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: of the reason why we haven't seen it until now.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: You don't want to do it, yeah, I was.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 9: Getting the vibe of like, I don't really, I don't
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 9: want to do it.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't see it.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: It just seemed kind of lukewarm. I don't think he's
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: an ovally talkative guy to begin with. It's pretty pretty quiet,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: laid back. But I got the impression that Tamara did.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: I thought that reading between the lines, that maybe this
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: is something that they've talked about and he kind of
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: is blocked at now. The other part of it has been.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Health, the fact that Bill Bill never says about a player, Yeah, we're.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: Going to talk about well, he said we're going to
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: talk like they asked they're going to keep him there,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: and he said, we're going to talk about it. And
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: I actually kind of downplayed that in the post game show.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: But after listening to a win who, I wonder if
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: maybe he's to make maybe it is something that they
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: have to sort of needs. Would he'd be able to
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: make more money if you pay well, that's what I
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: was just going to say. Contract here, you can play
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: tackle now like you you got. I wonder if he
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 5: feels like he's not fully healthy and he's going to
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: get exposed out there, Like I said, heaven stat Okay,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: your your boys would tell me that he again led
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 5: the league in fewest amount of time to throw and
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: they were second shortest average airtime for passes hair yards. Yes, heard, Sorry,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: I'm just helping you. I don't mean yeah, okay, But
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: as you know, I like to use these things when
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: they suit my arguments. So remember that maybe the past
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: protection was better than it was with Vederian Low, but
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: maybe it wasn't like this be all end all solution either.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: And I do think that a big part of the
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 5: success offensively is you found a way to have success
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: right away. So you got up ten nothing instead of
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: down ten nothing. And Fred said, maybe they'll be better
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: equipped in the future if they fall behind. I don't
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: see That's like, I don't see them being better equipped
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: to do it. You know, that's what we got to see.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: And if they go down to Miami and fall behind,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: you're gonna get right now, right in your face.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: Immediately, you know, Yeah, I mean to your point, Paul,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: I watched that Miami game back last night from Week
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: two and every single time they tried to drop back
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: past he got sacked. It was like every time they
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: tried to dial something up down the field, he got sacked.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: But he couldn't.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: He completed like seventy percent of his throat is just
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: throwing you know, five yard passes. But every time they
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: tried to load up and throw something down the field,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: or it was you know, third and ten and they
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: had to throw it down the field, you know, he
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: got sacked. I understand Big MIC's you know, reservations about
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: playing tackle because he's not a tackle, Like he's not
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: built like a tackle. His footwork isn't like a tackle.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: You know, he plays so much better at tackle than
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: Vederian Low that it just makes it look like to everybody,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: like why wouldn't you just keep him there forever? Right,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: because he's just so much better than what you have.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: But he does have a shorter corner because of his
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: foot speed and his footwork than most tackles do. That's
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: not just pick on him and say that he's bad
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: at it, but he's just he's a natural guard, like
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: he's that's how he's built.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: That's how he you know, he knows himself right and
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: he must look at it as I'm going to get
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: into free agency without my best tape out there, you know,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: And yeah it might be one. You know, on paper,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: it might be lucrative to say, well, this guy can
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: play tackle and guard, but if someone wants to sign
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: him as a guard, maybe he's not getting what he
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: should because he didn't play enough of it, you know,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: hit the year heading in and it's yeah, I don't know.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: It might just be as simple as what Emon said. Comfort. Yeah,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: like he doesn't feel his comfort.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: I just I wonder if if McDermott could still be
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: in the mix on the right side, and maybe if
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: SO is going to push cold Strange into the mix,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: you know, like is that because that's something they could
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: do too.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: That could be if you get on when you back
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: at right guard. I think I would feel better about
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: that because I don't think So is all that good.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: Oh let's put it this way. He's not ready yet.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: Let me let me put it that way. I'm not
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: telling you he's not any good. I think there's some
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 5: there was some pressure I thought in those gaps on
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: both sides. I thought what strange got walked back into
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: the quarterback A couple of times, and I thought, so
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: did too. Now I don't. I don't watch it like
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: Evan does, so like, well, maybe the film doesn't know.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: Maybe the film there's some intriguing traits was so. I
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: think the one thing that I would say, though, is
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: that he's getting a whole lot of help from David Andrews.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: Like David Andrews is opening to with his eyes to
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: the right side like nine times out of ten when
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: they drop back to pass. So they've done a really
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: good job in the last two weeks of making sure
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: that city So is not on the island with any
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: sort of elite pass rushers like he had like Tim
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: Settle a couple of times one on one, but that's
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: not we're not talking about. Yeah, like if we're not
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: talking about you know, the the Eagles in week one
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: putting what's his name Simmons over not Simmons, the rookie
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: that I think Carter Carter, thank you over you know,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: Antonio Maffi and just like making him block them one
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: on one or you know, like they've done a nice
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: job of protecting him the last couple of weeks. And
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: they also have played some interior d lines that aren't
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: very good. So I would just it's been better than
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: Mafi was, just because he's handled moving parts a little
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: bit better, like the stunts and the blitzes and stuff
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: like that up front have been a little bit cleaner
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: with so. But I wouldn't say that it's been he's
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: he's been fine.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 7: I just have to pray that one of those guys
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 7: works out like one of them like Mafi.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: I think they'll be I think they'll be fine. Well,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: I think they'll be offensive lineman. Yeah, like if you
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: let a win, you go like, I think one of
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: those guys will start like and maybe he won't be
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: as good like I think Mike is pretty good. But
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: I just think that you can work around that.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 11: Now.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: I think Venderian low level and what Calvin Anderson did
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: against the Miami in the Miami game the first time,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: you can't work around that. Yeah, you gotta at least
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: get in the way.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: And that's what Mike is, you know, That's what Big
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: Mike did was that he's like at least at that, like, Okay,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: we can get by with this level at tackle. I
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: think that he could get better at it in terms
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: of the footwork, but I just he's not you know,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: he's built the way he's built, and he's not like
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: a long, you know, strider, and that's what tackles need.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: They need to really get a lot of depth out
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: of their stances and make guys run the arc will
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: wrights in.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: I started the season staying positive, then things soured. Evan
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: told me to embrace the tank and I jumped on board.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Now they win and I don't know what to do
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: when they suck, I'm upset when they win. I'm upset.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: In all honesty, A part of me was happy when
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: Kendrick fumble because I thought I'd get the best of
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: both worlds, a competitive, heart wrenching loss. I find myself
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: asking does Bill still have a fastball? Is mac elite?
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: Are we trade blocked cellars? Is this a replay of
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: two thousand and one? Is constant back and forth? Is
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: tearing me apart? Mike? How am I supposed to feel it?
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: I'm with him.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: I have no idea how to feel and that's why
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: I just said, just enjoy this win and look forward
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: to playing Miami this week.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: And that's what I did. I had like I can't
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: remember the last time I had that much fun at
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 5: What does it mean an, my heart was racing the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: whole time, trying to.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 13: Like t.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: He's talking about his heart racing. I'm like, what's really
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: was the team?
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: We are adjacent to the team, Paul, Well, you know
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: what it was.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: Thought was that it was nice to care like because
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: sometimes you get so mad at them over the course
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: of a game, which probably speaks to you know, when
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: you're watching your team and they keep making mistakes and
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: they're doing the same thing over and over again, and
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: it's hard to like reconnect with passionately wanting this team
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: to win.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 5: And then they start to.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 7: Play well and you're doing things good and you're like, man,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 7: this the energy in the stadium is great, and like.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: This is what it's supposed to be like, and you
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: know that. I think that's why I just I wanted it.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: I wanted it for them, like I was.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: I was actually like, obviously, the best thing is the
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: Patriots could have moved the ball and run out the
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: clock on offense, but the fumble, and I thought it
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: at the time, if they weren't going to get a
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: first down, I'd rather fumble there and give him a
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: short field because I didn't have any faith whatsoever they
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: were going to stop Buffalo, but I had faith that
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: they might be able to go down and get a
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: field goal at the end. So they had they had
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: a lot of time, they had two minutes, you know, ultimately,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 5: because the short fields and two time allowed Buffalo to
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: score quickly.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: So I'm not saying that, but I'm saying, like, if
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: they were going to go, let's if he doesn't fumble,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: it's still third and long.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: You love those, you love these where it's a weird
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: nuance where a mistake actually helps you in a weird
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: sort of way.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: And I'm not trying to believe me. I'm not trying
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 5: to say it helped them. No, no, But the better
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: thing would have been if he just got tackled and
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 5: then they got the first down on the next play.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 5: That would have been the much more conventional way to
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 5: win the game. And I think we all would have
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 5: felt better about it. But I think that the way
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 5: it worked out, it saved a lot of time.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: Being fresdent by the way. I'm driving home after the
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: game and I'm listening to one of the postgame shows
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know if on one of Paul stations, and
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: sure enough, next on the phone speing Fresno, and I
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: have to say, I.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 5: Feel a little cheated on you.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I jilted that.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 5: Every once in a while. Every once in a while
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: I feel like we get cheated on. I hear some
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: of our guys.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 13: I like that.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: But he did mention us.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Oh then I take it back.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Loving the show today, good energy, fun arguments. Evan
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: has obviously proven an awesome addition. One of my favorite
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: things about him is how he'll flip from a talented,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: reasonable rational analyst into a reactive fan drenched to a
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: recency bias. This is true. He was despairing the future
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: at one in five, but now after beating the Bills,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: Evan is penciling.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: In games and way different.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: I love it. It gives me hope I didn't know
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: I might have. Don't listen to Paul Evan on to
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: five and five, LFG.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: Hey listen.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: I like I said before the break, my long term
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: outlook of the team in the franchise and the quarterback
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: and the head coach has not changed one iota. My
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: short term outlook of the neck of this season, and
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: I think that this is where like it's not even
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: just my fandom. It's also just my my job, right
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: that I could not watch them lose every freaking game,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: all right, it was gonna drive me up a dang wall.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: And I totally agree, and I expect them to lose
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: every game selfishly, selfishly, like I did not want to
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: get on a plane on Saturday to go to Miami
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: to watch the one in six Patriots lose by thirty
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: points to the Dolphins, Like I just didn't want that.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: So I will tell you that do you want the
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 5: two and five Patriots points? Just asking for a friend
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: you want I have some hope, but you want the hope.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 5: But you want the two and five Patriots to lose
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 5: by thirty points as well? I said, I don't want them, but.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: That's not the mindset getting on the plane. I totally
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: agree with that. I'm going to be have a little hope.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be totally sure why not? This is
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: more less like it's less about my my fandom at
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: this point, and it's more about my selfishness of us
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: having to cover the team. And I was I was
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: looking down the road. I'm sorry, Fred, but I was
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: looking at Germany and being like, oh my goodness, I
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: have to go to a different country and halfway across
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: the world. I hate to cover a one in eight
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: football team against Gardner minshew To and.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, dear, I hear that. I still
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: gotta watch. Yeah, but maybe they actually you know, I.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: Laugh at fans when they say, oh, I'm embarrassed, Like
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: what are you embarrassed for? You know, you weren't the
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: ones out there, you know, so what it's one of
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: my favorites, you know. But in this case, going to Germany,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: if we were won and whatever, I was going to
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: be a little embarrassed.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 14: You know.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it would be weird to host all those events
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 9: and parties.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because your reping. Yeah, you're trying to You're trying
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: to tell people be our fans, and then I just.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: Didn't want to play.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 5: Friend's gonna be walking on to see the game on
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 5: TV against the Bills. You see the game on the.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: Bill.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: We keep track of records differently in American football, but
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 5: you saw the game.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: Every game is its own championship. We won that.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: But I think part of this comes down to what
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: you were thinking and what you thought heading into the
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: season and all that kind of stuff, the expectation stuff,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 5: because I don't know, did you really think they were
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 5: going to lose like thirty four to nothing every game?
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: Like I just looked at that, But I didn't think
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: they were going to lose thirty four nothing in one game.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 14: No.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: But my point is, like if you went into the sea,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: like going into the season, I thought there was a
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: really good chance they were going to be one in five.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 5: It just didn't happen the way I thought it was
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: going to happen. I thought they would lose to the Jets,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 5: and I thought they would split with Vegas and the Saints.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: It turned out they beat the Jets and lost both
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: of those games. But like I just I think it
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 5: comes down to what you thought. Like, I still think
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: they're going to win somewhere around seven.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: But it's different to think that they might be one
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: and five and then see how they played to get
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: to one in five. And I didn't expect that.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: But I didn't expect them to play as well as
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: they did against Philadelphia.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: No, but I expected them to be competitive, you know,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: but not quite half.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: For the most part, they have been, you know, well
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: two I mean, they had two really really bad games,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: But I don't expect them to turn it over three
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: plus times every game either like they've had how many turnovers,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 5: like eleven, But I don't expect them to turn it
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: over at that rate.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: But at some point you say, well, that's who they are.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: You know, they're the team that has the big minus
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: in the turnover battle.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: But this is like why you needed and I kept
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: on trying to tell myself this that you needed to
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: look at the whole like picture, like you know, firing
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: Bill and getting rid of Mac over six games was
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: not like that's not the way to go about it.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: Like you got to look at the whole season and
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: look at the whole body of work. And I was
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: with Paul. I thought that they were going to start rough.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: I figured the offense would take a lot of time
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: to get put together by O'Brien. They had a tough schedule,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: so they started one and five. But if this team
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: finishes seven to nine or whatever, seven and ten, whatever
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: the math is now, but they won, you know, a
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: bunch of games late in the season because they started
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: to play better later in the year, then that changes
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: how you approach the twenty twenty four offseason. And that's
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: just that's where I'm at. I did the whole plath
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: to the playoff thing and everything is like kind of
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: I also went like that's where I'm at.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 5: And I would also look at you know, they have
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: a couple of more of these games against you know,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: these opponents that we put in a different category, like Buffalo,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 5: you know, like it's Miami, it's the Chiefs, it's Buffalo again.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: So I'll be watching if this turns out to be
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: a one off and they end up seven eight wins.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: They played better, but they just beat up on all
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 5: the bad teams. Like that's why I found That's why
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: I had so much fun Sunday, Like it wasn't just
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 5: that the way the game ended and the way the
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 5: game unfolded, it was against a good team they haven't
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: beaten that, you know, with the win.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: Should the Patriots buy a billboard down the street from
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: Ralph Edwards Stadium or whatever it's called, and you know
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: the way the bills the league?
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: Sure, why not?
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: Should we do that?
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 5: Why not?
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: They do?
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: They got their own problems.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: Right now, Hailey Steinfeld, Right, I was right about.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: That, Hailey stein I knew it was taking down the dynasty.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 9: Did you take a selfie with him in the tunnel.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: No, I did have a nice, nice moment with our
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: quarterback in the locker.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 7: Room after the game, though, Wow, talking lacrosse.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was Friday.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 8: I will say this is the one game that I
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 8: like didn't have to keep myself up to watch. Actually
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 8: I could actually watch the game without feeling like I
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 8: needed ten coffees.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: Okay, you got to tell Fred about Mac busting your
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: chops about lacrosse a little bit.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was Friday. Someone so he has a
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: lacrosse stick in his in his locker. I can say that, right.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know, we're not supposed to really talk about
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: what's in their lockers, but because he has a lacrosse
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: stick in his locker, and someone else had asked him like, oh, like,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: did you play lacrosse? And he said yes, And I
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: said I played lacrosse too, And he was like, oh,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: what what position did you play? I said long stick
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: MIDI and he looks at me. He goes, the poll
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: is taller than you. And I was like that that's accurate.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 13: And so that was that one.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: That's Hi. That was the story.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: Travis Travis in West Virginia did Sunday's game change your
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: opinion of whether or not Josh Allen's style of playing
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: backyard circle ball is sustainable.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: No, we just we finally caught him on an off day.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 5: Maybe tomorrow, Maybe tomorrow, you'll get me with that one.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, just take the wheel. No, not today.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 5: I just I think we finally caught him on an
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: off day. And yep, you know it was. It was
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: but Haalstein the Patriots. The Patriots did that. The Patriots
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: got the pressure like, that's like he didn't want to
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: do that. When he threw the ball in less than
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: two point five seconds, he was seventeen for seventeen. Again,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the nerd stats again. Look at
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: Paul true digging An. The Patriots did that to him.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: He didn't decide I'm just gonna go run around and
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: try to throw a ball in the back of the
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: end zone ten seconds after the play started. The Patriots
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: made him do that.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: Rich in New York big fan of the show, great
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: win over the Bills. With the Belichick contract being leaked,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: most likely being leaked by Belichick, I couldn't help but
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: thinking that BB channeleds inner George Costanza in the episode
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: where George is working at play now and the boss
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: wants him gone and offers to pay six months of
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: the one year contract to get him to leave immediately
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: at George then says, you see, if I stay the
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: whole year, I get it all. Everything always comes back
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: to the Seinfeld.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 5: That is correct. I thought you were going to say
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: when he was driving around with the World Series trophy
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: attached to the back of the car trying to get
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 5: fired from the Yankees.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: A lot of people saying how bad the Bills played.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: You know, I think the Patriots forced some of that,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: as Paul just said, and I do. I don't think
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: they don't have the best game.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to pretend to be Sunshine dot Com
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 5: guy like I don't think the Bills played well, but
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 5: I think the Patriots had something.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 13: To do with that.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: But also, for the record, the Bills have not been
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: playing well for like a month now, no, like since
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: that Miami game.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 5: And that's why I think most people were saying what
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 5: they're saying about the Bills. The Bills were rolling and
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 5: then they came in and played like that. I don't
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 5: think people would say.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: Well, Buffalo did. They would just say, oh, Buffalo had
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: a bad game. Buffalo is not played well.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Donnie in Pittsburgh.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 5: I came.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: I come bearing a white flag as a representative of
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: the Mac Jones haters. I couldn't be happier as a
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: fan for the growth he showed and the growth of
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: our offense is taken over two weeks in terms of
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: O line play, running back play, in wide receiver play.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: They deserve us to pat them on the back this
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: week while we are cautiously optimistic in the face of
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: a Miami away game, this could be something. They need
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: to beat Miami for me to fully say this is something.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: But Mac in this offense have won back the belief
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: of at least one heavy hater, a shred of negativity.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: Mac needs to stop the audible into delay of game
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: thing he has done two weeks in a row.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't believe that email. Yeah, I don't
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 5: believe you were a heavy Mac hater and then one
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 5: game change your mind. Well I don't believe that.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: But he's coming around.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 9: I feel like this like made me like raise my eyebrow.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 9: I can't really do that on my own.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: I think he's just think he's just saying cease fire
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: for a yeah, oh that's not how I read it.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 5: They have the is what I read. I was I
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 5: was wrong. I'm waving the white flag. That's how we
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 5: started the email.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely not waving that yet.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 7: Not everything has to be so definitive, Like one game
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 7: tells us everything you know.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 5: Now this game tells everything you know. It's it's like,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 5: I kind of like the way Evan said it. You know,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 5: my long term views of the quarterback and the team
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 5: really largely unchanged.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Let's see, Mark says, I love it.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: I love when giving me credit.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 5: I love when I just give you credit when you
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 5: agree with me.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 8: I love that Paul always has the receipts, like, oh yeah,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 8: it's amazing.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah he does research. Nobody keeps if it's at all
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: valuable in any way. Like there's a knowledge or something
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: to be gained by me remembering something, it won't happen
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: only if it's completely an utterly meaningless. You tell me,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 5: you asked me what the score was like in week
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 5: three of ninety six or something like. I got it,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 5: but I can't get anything out of it, you know,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 5: I don't if it's of any value, I don't retain it.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 9: Mike that means your key was valuable because he retained
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 9: it to look.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 5: At market on the sheet.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't remember it marking Everett Evan critique. Evan, please
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: start your commentary with in my opinion, you're starting to
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: sound like you know more than Bill and his staff,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: and you don't. Great things take time, and Bill would
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: just we just need contributions from everyone for it to work.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: Great things take time, which was obviously for you, which
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: was exactly my take that it was going to take time.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: Paul. You know you were an English major, right or no,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: no journalism, Well, but you had you had to write
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: a lot, right, and people would tell us, don't say
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: in my opinion it's your paper. We know it's your opinion,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: and if Evan's saying it, we know it's his opinion.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 5: Correct, You don't have.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: To say, I'll have a disclaimer at the end of
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: all of our articles. That's say it's my opinion.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: The other part I would just say, like the only
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 5: difference would be if you're given an opinion on something
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 5: that's like, you know, newsworthy, yeah you should probably say like,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 5: no one's told me that.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: But like if we get into the whole Bill contract, right,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: we could all have our thoughts on it, and they
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: would be our opinion. And I think for our sake,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: it's very important for us to say, listen, I don't
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: know anything, but this is what I think, because there
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: are some people that think that, like, you know, we're
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: having lunch with Bill and it's just not the way.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 5: It's amazing how many people think. I mean, that's an
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 5: exaggeration of it, but that when we say something, it's
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 5: like a voice of the organ.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: You know, we've got a tray in the cafeteria next
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: to you.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 5: I overheard your son wish.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just not the way it is. We
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: know as much and as little as everyone else about
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: most things.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: When it comes to that, you know, when it comes
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 5: to the football, I don't know.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when it.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: Comes to how I just don't have this like burning
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 4: desire to know secrets or to know things, or you know,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: like I just like to watch the games and.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 5: See what happens.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: Listen. You know, we can get into it maybe later
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: in the week, but like, I think it's important for
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: fans to know what the future of their head coaches,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: and you know, most teams, you know, like John Gruden
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: gets signed with the Raiders. It's ten years, one hundred
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: million dollars. You know, it's out there.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 5: We never know, and we think they knew originally like
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: when we first signed, but since then no. Yeah, but
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 5: and we'll probably get to that tomorrow. Would you say, like,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 5: I think today's a ust termed the page day, but
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 5: today's a basking the glory of a really fun win
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: yea day.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a big story. I think that tiers.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: I think fans want to know what the future looks
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: like in that.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: It is a it is a big story. It's huge,
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: but it's being made into a monumentally big story for
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: I think no reason.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: Because people don't know. But that's part of it. It's
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 5: the uncertainty, like the fact that.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: Paul's shows no Paul, the fact that every single one
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: of those shows first segment is leading off right now
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: is about Bill's contract.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: It's drama.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 5: It's wild.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild, like like what we're doing now because
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: this is our first opportunity together as a group to
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: talk about the game. We can fill two hours, but
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: they have to fill twenty hours.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: And the drama, I also can't talk ball like this.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: Well that's true, but it's easier to fill twenty hours
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: of speculation than twenty hours of basking the goal because
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: that admittedly that will get that will get tired, you know,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: So the bill thing works more for what they're doing.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: I don't blame them for doing it.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 13: I do.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 8: I feel like it's the uncertainty of how much he's
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 8: getting paid, but then also the reasoning of like why
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 8: that came out when it did.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: And then I also like, listen, the report raises more
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: questions than it did answer things. Oh yeah, you know,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: like this everything is a big question on that report.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 8: I'm like, I hope you didn't think that that report
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 8: was gonna hush anybody up, because that just made people
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 8: question it even more.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 5: I do wonder what the.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: The motive was. Yeah, the reason, well, if you knew
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: who leaked it, then it's easier to figure out the motive.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 5: But no, but I think that you could, you could
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: make different motives for either side.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: Sure that's true.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know what the motive was.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but anyway, we'll talk.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: About it more.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: We'll get into that.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 5: We have some of those clips and stuff we'll play
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: on tomorrow.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: Jason and Carlsbad New Mexico. I'm torn. I like how
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: Mac played on Sunday, and if he could play that
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: way more weeks than not, then I would absolutely love it.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: But he doesn't. So do we want Mac or do
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: we want a top pick for a better quarterback next year?
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: So to all of y'all, what would you prefer? Prefer
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: a top pick or Mac?
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: I'm always anti tanking. I've been in like I was
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: embracing the tank because I had no other choice. But
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 3: if I had a choice, I would much rather their
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: arrowb pointing upward in the second half of the season,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: and they build something in the second half of this
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: year and then add to it, and then twenty twenty
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: four they maybe have better you know, tackle play, better
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: wide receiver play, and you know, keep the same defense
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: relatively together, and now they're competing in twenty four. Like,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: I would much rather go that route than than tank
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: and start all over too.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 4: I just I just still go back to, you know,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 4: feeling like you got to make sure that you give
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 4: your first round quarterback all the chances he can get
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 4: to succeed. And I don't think anybody could say that
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: they've given him every chance to succeed yet and even
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 4: if you don't believe that he's ever going to be
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: a top five, you know, super Bowl contending quarterback, I
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 4: just think you could.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 5: You can't keep chasing your tail.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: And so, you know, to that one caller's point, if
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 4: you feel like, hey, we think Mac can still play,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: let's let's continue to build around. Let's let's let him
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: carry over his offense. Let's have an offense for the
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 4: same offense for a second year in a row. You know,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 4: I just I think overall that adds just the stability
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: of the organization. I don't think anybody really truly wants
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 4: to blow up an organization and start over a coach
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 4: and start over a quarterback and begin that long row.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 5: Listen, it's long. It's long and uncertain.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: If if you come out of this season thinking, okay,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: Mac has a chance to be the guy, that makes
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: it so much easier, I mean, so you can whatever
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: assets and money you have you can spend elsewhere. You know,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: otherwise you're back in that hole looking for quarterbacks. So,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: as Patriots fans, even if you haven't liked what Mac
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: has done so far, you should be hoping that he
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: can turn it around, because that will make life so
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: much easier this offseason.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: I feel in between them all.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 8: I feel like, regardless of whether you keep him or
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 8: get a new quarterback, you still need to build around
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 8: them because what he has right now.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: Is That's what I'm saying, You're gonna have to do
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: that anyway. So if you have one thing in place,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: being the quarterback, go let's start building this, you know.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 8: But I also don't think that he's the guy either, Like,
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 8: even if he does finish out the season like seven
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 8: to nine or whatever it is, I still don't think
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 8: long term he's it.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: I think that's the fair argument, is that somebody could say, look,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: he's not the guy. You're wasting your time continuing to
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: try to make him the guy. The sooner you can
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 4: get someone who you truly believe to be the guy,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 4: the better.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: Well. I think this gets back to the caller, the
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: early caller we had who had played off with the scout,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: you know, define the guy. Like, if you're looking for,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: you know, an elite quarterback, you're probably not gonna get him.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: But if you can get a guy who's capable, like
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: you know, we always use Kirk Cousins as the guy,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: stick with him, you know, stick with that and build
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: around it.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 5: I just feel like there's a danger in that. There's
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 5: a Daniel Jones danger, there's an Andy Dalton danger, there's
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 5: a Kirk Cousin danger. You can convince yourself you have
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 5: the guy, and I'm with you on that. If you're wrong,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: I think it does more damage than if you started.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: But the question is is.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 6: You have a guy?
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: You don't have the guy, Okay, But the question is
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: with Kirk Cousins, is like, if kirk Cousins was in
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: a in a better I guess in general just situation,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: then Minnesota, I don't know their head coaches. Their defense
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 3: is horrible, like you know, like so if Kirk Cousins
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: was playing, but no, But like the question is is,
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: like you know, it's funny, like you bring up last night.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: If Kirk Cousins is the quarterback for the San Francisco
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: forty nine ers instead of the quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 3: which he might be next year, you like can.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 5: Place the way it played last night, They're gonna lose
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 5: most games. I don't know what. I don't even know
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 5: who those guys were. I can't believe how out of
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 5: position they were all night. It was amazing. They had
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: some ridiculous penalties.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: Is it fair to say that of all the positions
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: in football, the quarterback is most susceptible to his environment?
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I do.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 4: I don't want to believe that though, you know, I
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: want to believe that that you can have a quarterback
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 4: then that can affect the environment around them.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean, I just Kirk Cousins gets thrown
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 5: around all the time and it's like.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 4: Well, what do we want to do when we rebuild, Well,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 4: we want to get an elite weapon like justin Jefferson. Sure,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 4: you want to get a cutting edge offensive coordinator coming
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 4: from one of the hot.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 5: Offenses in the league.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, with Kevin O'Connell, you know what I mean, it's
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: like you see Minnesota making the same state mistakes that
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 4: people call in here all the time pitching, and it's.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 5: Not I think he's fine. I just don't think that
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 5: he's the guy, that's all. I think he's good.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: I think Shanahan would win the Super Bowl with Kirk Cousins.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 5: With that team, Yes, Yeah, that's different. I think they're
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 5: gonna win the Super Bowl with Brott Berdy. Yeah, Well,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 5: how was pretty less.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: I didn't see the game down the stretch interceptions, what happened.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 5: It's so funny, But they have.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 3: To have some injuries on offense. He doesn't, you know, Yeah, I.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 5: Don't think that. I think the balance. I think the
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 5: balance of the game. They were really good offensively, and
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 5: he was really good. Now I know he didn't do
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 5: it at the end. He's the opposite of Mac. Yeah,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 5: Mac did it at the end. Until the end. He
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 5: was averaging ten yards per He was playing really what
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 5: I want, but I had I had some interest in
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 5: that game. Didn't didn't turn out well, and he played
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 5: really He played really really well until the last drive
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 5: when they needed him to do it. Like if McCaffrey.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 5: McCaffrey's fumble took seven points off the board, the field
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 5: goal kicker missed another kick they had, Yeah, I mean
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 5: one that they allow Jordan Adamson to take the ball
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 5: out of a defensive back to hand.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 8: That was.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 5: Sixty yard touchdown with no time left in the first half.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: That's absurdly bad.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't We're gonna turn into Vikings tonight, but
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: I give them a lot of credit, you know, No, Jefferson,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: your guy was really fast. They they came out to
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: play Ellen Wisconsin. This probably is the most fun I've
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: had watching a game in two years. Big props to
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: the team for winning a game that I thought was unwinnable.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: I still don't think this changes much in the grand
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: scheme of things, though. I was on the new coach
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: slash quarterback train for more reasons than just the start
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: of this season alone. But hey, who knows, Maybe I'll
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: be proven wrong if the team proves Evans Fantasy Land true.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, that's calm. I had literally am in
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: the same exact boat as.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: The email that happens good and I said, what, Yeah,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 5: that's how I got on Mount Cook's.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: I said, was that at least we have like some
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: like this right now, right here, right now, there is
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 3: a football season to be had for the Patriots. Yeah,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: which you couldn't have said before Buffalo. Now in twenty
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: twenty four and beyond, I still have no clue if
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: they have the right people in place for the future
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: of the team, but for next week in Miami at least, yeah,
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: there's there's a slipper.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: And I think too though, like even just aside from
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: the win, that you're starting to get, you know, just
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: some positive vibes from some guys.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 5: You know, some guys are starting to step up.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: I feel like in you know those two weeks where
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 4: they got blown out, it was like it was so
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: hard to feel good about anything that they were doing
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 4: at that.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 5: Point, and talked about Pharroll Brown. Yeah, I know they're like, whoa,
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 5: Like that was it right?
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: Like that?
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: What is up with Pharaoh Brown? Where did that come from?
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 3: There's no way they could, like they can play koy
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: about it all they want. They had no idea Farrow
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: Brown was gonna be a big play machine.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: The clutch Gan clutch Gene. That's the new thing.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 3: Every time he touches the ball, it's an explosive.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 5: It's wild.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: Dennis and East Boston emailing to compliment Paul Fred and
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: Mike on all the deep Seinfeld references over the years.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: Please keep them coming. Pats and Seinfeld have been my
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: two favorite things to watch for who knows how long,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: so I love it as a listener. Last week, two
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: brilliant Seinfeld references I think most people missed. Mike so
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: Perty is the guy that sidelined Jimmy Paul and you
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: end with a swirl I was cracking up, gentlemen, keep
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: them coming.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 5: I need fans.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 9: I need some fans that are alaw in order, Like.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's unvery quotable though, like there's not a lot
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 4: of like moments and you're guilty.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 5: You know, it's a very uplifting.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: You got to remember all the Lenny's lines, you know,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: because Ny has the line, are you gonna watch the
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: new Jesse l Martin series? Watched?
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 5: I've watched a couple.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: Is it any good?
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 5: It's not bad? Uh that you watched a couple? Name
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 5: of it?
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: The educator. No, he's like a professor, right, educator.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 5: It's the It's one of those like one word and
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 5: I missed it. That's al Michaels.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 3: You know he's doing you know al Michaels talk about
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: washed My goodness, did you watch that Thursday night game?
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 3: The Irrational al Michaels like it's it's time, Oh, it's time.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: It's okay, I just got a great run.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: He's making bank.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 5: I think he thinks it's ridiculous that he's doing games
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 5: on streaming with with herb Street and he's just just like.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: Nobody that check Claire, Yeah, okay, talk about mailing it in.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna continue wearing my pants up to my
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: nipples and I'll be fine with it. That show is
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: not bad, though, Okay, I just kind of these days.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: I don't want.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 5: I know, you don't. You're a snob.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: Commercials. I don't want.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 3: I don't don't watch a ton of watches The Bachelor.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: You kidding me? I do not watch the bat watch
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: I'll watch the Bachelor, but not the Bachelorette. That's where
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 5: you draw the gold. This is what I always say.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 5: This is what I always say. It's always the same thing.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 4: So I'd rather I'd rather watch crazy women than stupid guys,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 4: Like the Bachelorette is both of those bunch of stupid
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 4: both but it was mostly like that's right, is mostly
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 4: your dealing with stupid guys the whole time, And I
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 4: think you're being nice calling the women just crazy.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: And not stupid.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 9: Well, if you enjoy that, you should watch the Love
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 9: is Blind, Like, if.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 3: You're not there for the right reason, Love is blinded,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: Love is fantastic?
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 5: Want to go down the road?
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 9: Was Blind is the greatest show so good on Netflix?
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 5: Season five just wrapped.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 7: That was the COVID show, right, first, Yeah, yeah, we watched.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 5: I can't comment.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: Didn't see when that girl asks him if he would
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: pay for her water heater if it broke, It's like
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: my name on the.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: Deed, Adrian writes in Listening to the Hub and Hardy
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: just throw a subtle jab at PU postgame show. While
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: speaking about the Rusk missing the Bruins team meeting, he said,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: it's not like it's a two hour meeting with a
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: break for lunch. Wow. Also, I'm feeling a bit nostalgic
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: and would love to hear the Duncan Coulata Paul Parolo's
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: sound bite. If you still have it on a hard
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: drive somewhere, the pfw O g s will know what
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: I'm talking.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 3: Is Jake de Brest missing that meeting is bad? Like
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: it was in La It was a meeting in the
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 3: team hotel, so all all you had to do was
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 3: get out of bed and walk downstairs.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 5: He didn't play in the King's Game. Yeah, how do
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 5: you miss the meeting?
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 7: Well, he probably met somebody and then he was at parts.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 5: He was parts unknown. That's probably right.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: You got to keep it in line.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 8: I have a question for the married people and Evan,
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 8: you're almost married basically, So a question this is on
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 8: love is blind and he got to dinner, who pays
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 8: for the meal? Me? Me?
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: Us?
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 5: But it is our money but I pay.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we're both here, so it's our money.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not I put the card out.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, that was a That was a huge blow
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 8: up on there because the guy answered and was like,
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 8: fifty to fifty every time, Like we just both put
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 8: our cards.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 9: Down, that was his response.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 5: But they're not. They're married. They were married. He's talking
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 5: about dating.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: They were going to dating. I always paid.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 5: Now dating, I always paid too. But I'm a little
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 5: little fashioned engaged.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 8: Check him like when we get married out to eat,
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 8: like who's going to pay? And he was like, we
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 8: both put our cards down.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 3: That was sad.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: But when we get married, it's one pool.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 3: It's one pool, and you're engaged like it, like we
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: have one credit card that for every for the.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: House, honest.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 5: But if you're on you gotta you gotta, you gotta lie.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 7: We'd be like, well, I would like if you really
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 7: want it to.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 5: Work, like checking accounts, you guys have just one checking
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 5: Oh no, she's we have one one? Oh you each
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 5: have one.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just for like they have, I wrote
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: a check is like years.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 5: No, no, but you have a checking account, right, don't
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 5: you pay your bills electronically for the debit card? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 5: you pay. But plus you have to pay your bills
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 5: just because you don't write a check bills. Yeah so yeah,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 5: so I think me too. I run the finance, kill
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 5: it and that's what.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: Up to my I do eat checks, you know with
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: Bank of America.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's that's what I meant. But checking account
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 3: is separate. We don't have one credit card, so that
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: like when we go out to dinner, like it just it.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: We each put money into it.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 5: And yeah, I just think it's funny that Beth has
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 5: her own checking account. And I always call it a
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 5: divorce account.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 4: Right, I'm not really my mom had one, but there's
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 4: probably one hundred and sixty dollars in it right now.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 5: There's there's way more money in her checking account than
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 5: ours makes, like fives what I make, you know, she
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 5: should have. She's going to regret that that nurse money.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: I could definitely get the alimony if I needed it.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: Paul's going to be squatting in the Peabody house.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 5: With with what Fred pays me, Are you kidding me?
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 3: At least five times that at least five us.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: All Right, I gotta go, I gotta meet, we gotta meet.
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