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- 0:12Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating Wild Broke.
- 0:15Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen, and today we have very special guests,
- 0:19Speaker 1: aviation entrepreneur, first ever in the building. Ever in the
- 0:22Speaker 1: history of Eating While Broke? Have you had an entrepreneur
- 0:25Speaker 1: of aviation? The CEO and founder of Arrows Corporation is
- 0:29Speaker 1: in the building. Yes, yes, just a little backstory. I
- 0:34Speaker 1: just happened to be at Igor's house, which was absolutely beautiful.
- 0:37Speaker 1: You were kind enough to let me tour and invade
- 0:40Speaker 1: your space a little bit. But just hearing that you
- 0:42Speaker 1: design airships is you don't come across that every day. So, guys,
- 0:50Speaker 1: just so you know, all I was there was like, hey,
- 0:51Speaker 1: what do you think about being on a show where
- 0:53Speaker 1: we talk about your humble beginnings? And Igor was like,
- 0:57Speaker 1: I'm a little crazy, and I was like, crazy changes
- 0:59Speaker 1: the world? World? Yeah, or more Chris, Yeah, I believe
- 1:04Speaker 1: it changes the world. So I said, what would you
- 1:07Speaker 1: have me eating if you were to come on Eating
- 1:08Speaker 1: While Broke? And what are you gonna have me eat today?
- 1:11Speaker 2: They were eating waste, no restaurants, roads.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Okay, so what was that?
- 1:19Speaker 2: It's beautiful, beautiful, unbelievable and beautiful.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Top Rammer top ramen, and then what else does you
- 1:28Speaker 1: have us eating?
- 1:29Speaker 2: Oh no, this is not the food. It's the life saving.
- 1:33Speaker 1: It's life saving.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Yeah, but you ready to live this life because you're hungry.
- 1:39Speaker 2: It's called you safe, your wife.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it our boiled eggs? You gotta cook
- 1:44Speaker 1: them first. Yeah, so we're gonna have harboiled eggs, guys
- 1:47Speaker 1: and some ramen. Go ahead. Igor says he never really cooks.
- 1:51Speaker 1: We now have it on camera that you will be cooking.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Okay, I always cook.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Oh, you always cook.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Of course. Look in reality, right when you're hungry, you're hungry,
- 2:05Speaker 2: and you're always looking for efficiency in this life. Nothing
- 2:10Speaker 2: can be more efficient than roman and eggs because you
- 2:15Speaker 2: can cook and the same time think about something else,
- 2:19Speaker 2: like your next trip to restaurant.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Yes, et restaurant.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Okay, the secret is my secret, but don't tell to anyone.
- 2:32Speaker 2: You need gently.
- 2:35Speaker 1: You gotta boil the water personal.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, to boil the water they need fish.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Just turn both those knobs the other way. Yep, the
- 2:47Speaker 1: other way. Yeah, yet there, and then do the other
- 2:52Speaker 1: one because you're boiling. You're boiling both, right.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Not necessary today to do some experimentation cooking experiment. Okay.
- 3:02Speaker 1: For some strange reason, I'm nervous about your cooking because
- 3:06Speaker 1: when we first met, you were like, I don't.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Cook really cooked sixty one and still wie.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Okay, okay, come on, come on ahead.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Cook Yeah, yeah, it's supposed to be start start boiling.
- 3:17Speaker 1: And then what about the hardboiled egs? Do you put.
- 3:19Speaker 2: The agreed to do some experiments?
- 3:22Speaker 1: Oh, you're okay, then some Okay, we're gonna see all right,
- 3:31Speaker 1: do you want to turn off that other part or
- 3:32Speaker 1: do you want to keep it running? You want to
- 3:36Speaker 1: turn it off? Yeah, that's that's done. Yep, Okay, we're
- 3:39Speaker 1: gonna watch it. I think I know what is gonna do.
- 3:43Speaker 1: By the way, did I say your name? Pastornik? Is
- 3:46Speaker 1: the I didn't even say your name? Did I?
- 3:48Speaker 2: Oh?
- 3:48Speaker 1: I did? Okay, okay, So igor take me back to
- 3:52Speaker 1: what was going on in the times where you were
- 3:54Speaker 1: eating this on a more regular basis.
- 3:57Speaker 2: So he did some more regular really, yes, of course.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Okay. Take me back to humble times.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Humble times and still humble, yes, humble times.
- 4:08Speaker 1: So it's very when times were a little financially strained.
- 4:16Speaker 2: When you're running small business, yeah, small business, you're always
- 4:20Speaker 2: financially strength with the issues or problem or happiness. You
- 4:26Speaker 2: achieve one goal, you already got another goal. Yeah, and
- 4:31Speaker 2: next goal always bigger than previous one, and next goal
- 4:35Speaker 2: taking more money. You never become this feeling of financial independency. Yeah,
- 4:41Speaker 2: because this every project, you just become addictives to the challenge. Yeah.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Now do you think that's more of a life of
- 4:49Speaker 1: an entrepreneur or do you think people that have nine
- 4:52Speaker 1: to five's go through that battle.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Nine you never know what it's right nine to fine
- 4:57Speaker 2: or they were trying to change the world, or you
- 5:00Speaker 2: will be know to a second before we die. But unfortunately
- 5:03Speaker 2: in this moment we cannot talk anymore. You keep the
- 5:05Speaker 2: secret with us. I think in reality, everyone going through this, Yeah,
- 5:11Speaker 2: because everyone especially following the American dream or a bigger Yeah,
- 5:19Speaker 2: it's the probably honor to be American. It's you're trying
- 5:23Speaker 2: to achieve something more and more for your family, for
- 5:27Speaker 2: your dream, for yourself, for your friends, and this kind
- 5:32Speaker 2: of NonStop process because if you stop, we become different.
- 5:37Speaker 2: You're not longer mankind to become human being. Yeah, and
- 5:42Speaker 2: everyone's struggling with this. Is you show to me one
- 5:45Speaker 2: billionaire who will be saying she's okay, it's not true.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Have you read the book The Psychology of Money?
- 5:54Speaker 2: No, I never read books.
- 5:56Speaker 1: You don't. You don't read you're an engineer, and they're
- 6:00Speaker 1: not really no.
- 6:01Speaker 2: Very simple and not really books because books as soon
- 6:04Speaker 2: as the people's opinion, and I got to do everything
- 6:06Speaker 2: my own opinion.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Okay, oh, I never thought of it like that. But then,
- 6:11Speaker 1: but okay, you're an engineer, right. Engineers build off of
- 6:15Speaker 1: what other people have, kind of trial and error.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Right, it's probably it's different engineers, right, Okay, different engineers
- 6:26Speaker 2: probably when what we're doing, I'll consider everyone bodyline between
- 6:31Speaker 2: science and engineering.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Okay.
- 6:33Speaker 2: From one sign, it's more kind of applies science and
- 6:37Speaker 2: in some way because signs a lot to you to
- 6:40Speaker 2: operating the real data and saying what I can do
- 6:44Speaker 2: today what yesterday was impossible. Yes, because I become not
- 6:50Speaker 2: more smarter, I become more dealing this data. I realize
- 6:56Speaker 2: something new on this data. Basically, it's the science.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Yes, when you've.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Got the data, you observe the data, your knowledge, and
- 7:05Speaker 2: you find the pattern in this data.
- 7:08Speaker 1: Yes.
- 7:08Speaker 2: The engineering portion, it's when you're thinking, okay, now I
- 7:11Speaker 2: can do something, not just better as device, Right, is
- 7:17Speaker 2: I can do in principle new device? What can be
- 7:19Speaker 2: changed something based on this data? You're training your brain
- 7:25Speaker 2: in some way, right, it's what is uniqueness? Be on
- 7:29Speaker 2: the borderline, because on the same side you're doing experimental
- 7:33Speaker 2: in your head. What is engineering? Wine, because much more progressive,
- 7:41Speaker 2: but again it's more apply science from engineering.
- 7:45Speaker 1: You just come closer and speak into this mic just
- 7:48Speaker 1: a little bit, yes, yes, okay, I am closer, a
- 7:53Speaker 1: little bit closer.
- 7:55Speaker 2: This morn.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Yeah. I want you to like less than this much
- 7:58Speaker 1: away all right? Yeah, sorry, you fascinating me.
- 8:02Speaker 2: About what for all of it? All of it? Okay.
- 8:06Speaker 1: I like the way you explain engineering versus the science
- 8:10Speaker 1: and the engineering and how it all comes together.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Yeah. No, the old ambitions, right, our ambitions when the young,
- 8:18Speaker 2: the more ambitions when we are sixteen years old. We
- 8:22Speaker 2: believe it. Our parents, our relatives, especially our clothes relatives
- 8:31Speaker 2: who much older than they are.
- 8:33Speaker 1: They wrong, they're wrong.
- 8:36Speaker 2: They're wrong. Of course we got to move you know
- 8:38Speaker 2: the world much better. Yeah, yes, especially correct to my
- 8:41Speaker 2: life experience. Girls starting about twelve years Asian boys about
- 8:47Speaker 2: a little bit better. They about fifteen. Yeah, but they
- 8:49Speaker 2: all know the parents wrong in the view of the world,
- 8:53Speaker 2: and they always yeah, okay, now we're moving next step right,
- 8:58Speaker 2: reach about eighteen geen and this moment we believe and
- 9:02Speaker 2: we can change the world because world built wrong and
- 9:06Speaker 2: they need to only are capable to make world better place.
- 9:12Speaker 2: And as the growing up and the gaining life experience,
- 9:17Speaker 2: the realizing it's not about in this world, it's not
- 9:22Speaker 2: so much about you as revolutionary changing. It's about to
- 9:29Speaker 2: leave the world better place than you leave. Then you
- 9:34Speaker 2: come and this point, your ambitionance is built around this.
- 9:39Speaker 2: You don't have any more ambitions on the base your
- 9:42Speaker 2: parents stupid. You don't have any more ambitions. Everything in
- 9:48Speaker 2: the world is wrong and everything needs to be changed.
- 9:50Speaker 2: You're realizing the beauty of the world. You're realizing the
- 9:53Speaker 2: beauty of the light. And you're just trying to use
- 9:56Speaker 2: your talent to make better place for your family, for
- 9:59Speaker 2: your unity, for your city, for engineers to come in
- 10:03Speaker 2: with something that make life of the people. But it's
- 10:08Speaker 2: always something motivating us. This is what is saying is
- 10:13Speaker 2: difference between mankind and human being. And it's not about
- 10:17Speaker 2: nine to six jobs or for twenty four hours and
- 10:21Speaker 2: be world. Yeah, yeah, it's everyone motivating. Same. Yeah, just
- 10:27Speaker 2: some people stupid like me, they decide the hard ways,
- 10:30Speaker 2: and people more smart we decide to go more normally.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Yes, Hold on one second.
- 10:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I see this device is not working.
- 10:39Speaker 1: You turned off the stove. Hold on, hold on?
- 10:43Speaker 2: Okay, there, I was planning to ask for school driver.
- 10:46Speaker 1: And change change and to fix it, do your engineer hack.
- 10:50Speaker 1: So take me back. You're born in the Ukraine, in
- 10:53Speaker 1: Soviet Union, in Soviet Union. Okay, Now where did the
- 10:58Speaker 1: bug for aerosh or aviation come into play?
- 11:06Speaker 2: It's probably need to step away. What the Soviet Union
- 11:09Speaker 2: was back there in sixties sixty seventies, right, it's about
- 11:13Speaker 2: three hundred years ago. There was this was very special
- 11:21Speaker 2: country had to say special. But let's assume this words
- 11:25Speaker 2: special and in some way unique.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Unique, Yeah, unique and noting.
- 11:29Speaker 2: They go to why notice words of uniqueness and the
- 11:33Speaker 2: idea of the do something was very limited, right, because
- 11:40Speaker 2: it's a communist system. It's basically you as individual, you're
- 11:45Speaker 2: not thinking about money. Money not exist. Yeah, and it's
- 11:48Speaker 2: because it's only what this exists. As kids watching the
- 11:52Speaker 2: movie Soviet movie, is you are changing something for a
- 11:59Speaker 2: better the country? Yes, because it's known as the option,
- 12:03Speaker 2: the attorney it's not good. The doctors it's okay, but
- 12:07Speaker 2: not really good. And then in this for people like
- 12:10Speaker 2: me who has got born with some kind of logical
- 12:14Speaker 2: structure thinking and Sinata war was born mentally sick. Yeah,
- 12:19Speaker 2: it was not as a way outside of engineering, because
- 12:22Speaker 2: engineering it was what did you feel? It was not?
- 12:26Speaker 2: There was no options? Why aviation? I don't know. It
- 12:32Speaker 2: was probably five years old, and I just said it
- 12:35Speaker 2: will be aviation because it was fun.
- 12:38Speaker 1: Because it was fun. Did you just have a fascination
- 12:40Speaker 1: with airplanes? I think war balloons or helium.
- 12:45Speaker 2: No, it started to use airplanes of course, okay, because
- 12:48Speaker 2: you don't see any balloons. Yeah there, but probably because
- 12:55Speaker 2: this way. Yeah, I already mentioned mentally sick. Yeah, yeah,
- 13:00Speaker 2: what is I was decided to so you be pilot,
- 13:03Speaker 2: and I decided to be aviation.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Engineer okay, okay, versus a pilot, versus a pilot. So
- 13:08Speaker 1: how do your parents take the news that you want
- 13:10Speaker 1: to get into building airplanes?
- 13:13Speaker 2: Probably some way as they take the news when my
- 13:17Speaker 2: five years old, Some tell me you want to be
- 13:19Speaker 2: president of the United States.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay. So they were very positive about it.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Oh yeah, five years old.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, yeah, but then when you start to pursue it,
- 13:32Speaker 1: how did they take it?
- 13:35Speaker 2: From beginning it was okay. In some point it was
- 13:42Speaker 2: a little bit not okay because it was there was
- 13:45Speaker 2: no companies were going to work right, This was more
- 13:50Speaker 2: hobby line. No one was building airship, insuit union, no
- 13:53Speaker 2: one design union. And of course there was worried. I'lbeit
- 13:58Speaker 2: to some kind of dreamers of course, or probably saying
- 14:03Speaker 2: there's a lot of fantasy in my head because they
- 14:05Speaker 2: was worried. But eventually not let them any choices.
- 14:10Speaker 1: Yeah, they just had to accept it. Yeah, yeah, now
- 14:14Speaker 1: you faced. I read online that you okay, go ahead,
- 14:17Speaker 1: cook for a moment.
- 14:18Speaker 2: You need to make sure we removed everything from the
- 14:24Speaker 2: Sometimes they put special packages plas.
- 14:27Speaker 1: Yeah, they put a little seasoning pack in there. Yeah.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Profession okay, now yeah, just watch me the tree.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna watch okay.
- 14:38Speaker 2: Yeah, you see how professionally make hands moving.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Okay, I see.
- 14:42Speaker 2: It's years and toms and toms. That's product. Okay, Now gently.
- 14:53Speaker 1: Success, are you cooking one or two package? Cook too?
- 14:57Speaker 2: Yeah? You're right, two of us?
- 14:59Speaker 1: No long yeah, you need to have something for dinner
- 15:02Speaker 1: to exactly.
- 15:04Speaker 2: I understand. Oh how these buildings is especially especially pick
- 15:12Speaker 2: up these packages for me to straggle.
- 15:14Speaker 1: Yes, you are really struggling with this.
- 15:17Speaker 2: Are you cheating me? It's required all effort.
- 15:22Speaker 1: I know you don't make this on a regular Let
- 15:25Speaker 1: me help you. It's gonna fly everywhere.
- 15:27Speaker 2: There just using some devices. It's helping the process. By
- 15:34Speaker 2: the way. Eight and again the most important remove all
- 15:41Speaker 2: moon cooking parts because they don't just mistaken many times.
- 15:45Speaker 1: Oh with the packet, you're hilarious.
- 15:48Speaker 2: Well not me. They just put and there's no warn, acknowledged, nothing.
- 15:51Speaker 1: Okay, there you got your little package out the way.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Yeah, and the same it's awesome.
- 16:00Speaker 1: No, I need some device right there, yep, use that,
- 16:03Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine.
- 16:05Speaker 2: Something my practice.
- 16:07Speaker 1: Yeah, because when it gets soft, they'll move around through it. Okay.
- 16:12Speaker 1: I heard I had read online that early on in
- 16:15Speaker 1: your studies you faced discrimination for being Jewish. Is that true?
- 16:20Speaker 2: Look back to church union to be jew This was
- 16:25Speaker 2: not the most popular line. Yeah, but here's the probably
- 16:30Speaker 2: The point is it's nothing to do with religion. Yeah,
- 16:34Speaker 2: to be Jewish your bloodline, Yes, it's it was got
- 16:37Speaker 2: domestic id and kind of domestic pastor. And this was
- 16:41Speaker 2: line five, what was called nationality. But it's not nationality
- 16:45Speaker 2: in the way of your citizenship emotionality.
- 16:49Speaker 1: It's your bloodline, yeah, your DNA, Yeah, yeah, it's and
- 16:53Speaker 1: it's was.
- 16:54Speaker 2: Saying and I was saying Juan as people saying Russian
- 16:57Speaker 2: or Ukrainian. Yes. And for some reason, actually we can
- 17:01Speaker 2: talk for a long time where jew was not very
- 17:04Speaker 2: popular in Soviet Union, especially after after Jews started immigrating
- 17:11Speaker 2: to Israel from the Soviet Union the United States. And
- 17:14Speaker 2: basically the idea was logical trested logical right, because the
- 17:20Speaker 2: approach was, okay, if Ju going atviation university and country
- 17:24Speaker 2: will teach him, he will be exposed to all secrets.
- 17:28Speaker 2: So the sign and after this goodbye, you can find
- 17:31Speaker 2: him on Israel in the I mean it was and
- 17:36Speaker 2: of course Soviet was got anti Semitic policy government, the
- 17:40Speaker 2: government and not talking about on everyday life. It's always
- 17:44Speaker 2: wasn't the simitis wasn't present starting from a long time ago.
- 17:49Speaker 2: It was there, but from the government point, it was
- 17:52Speaker 2: restriction for Jew which university you can go and which
- 17:58Speaker 2: position you can obtain and blah, blah blah, a member
- 18:01Speaker 2: of the party, not a member of the party. And
- 18:03Speaker 2: it's a lot of this.
- 18:05Speaker 1: So how do you handle that when you're going to
- 18:07Speaker 1: into aviation where you need a lot of schooling.
- 18:11Speaker 2: I was never able to attend aviation. But in my
- 18:14Speaker 2: seating leave in Ukraine where I grow up was wonderful
- 18:18Speaker 2: library and it was my education and I was all
- 18:24Speaker 2: my life. I very lucky. I meet wonderful people. In
- 18:27Speaker 2: some point when I was probably teenager, A meet people
- 18:31Speaker 2: who was working in one of the vs large company
- 18:36Speaker 2: in Soviet Union who built big airplanes, and they was
- 18:38Speaker 2: got volunteer like volunteer design bureau. They was designing a
- 18:45Speaker 2: receipts and three times from work there was classical engineers. Yeah,
- 18:50Speaker 2: it's as much you can be engineered.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 18:52Speaker 2: And the one of the guys is no longer with us.
- 18:57Speaker 2: His name was Alex Blankio. He wrote some article on
- 19:02Speaker 2: kids technical magazine. In this article or something letter he
- 19:06Speaker 2: responded and from there every sing begin.
- 19:10Speaker 1: And so did you start working for the company once
- 19:13Speaker 1: he's he responded.
- 19:14Speaker 2: Or no, it was no company. It was was hobby, okay,
- 19:20Speaker 2: hobby for him, for his colleagues and for me, I
- 19:23Speaker 2: was this kid who was literally believed, this will be
- 19:28Speaker 2: my profession. Yeah, through my career.
- 19:30Speaker 1: She respawned, and it was so what happens when he responds?
- 19:35Speaker 1: Do you go work for him? Do you intern? Do
- 19:37Speaker 1: you hang out with him?
- 19:38Speaker 2: Do you know it's just starts writing technical letter to
- 19:44Speaker 2: each other. He wasn't ky if I wasn't. Yeah, but
- 19:50Speaker 2: it's not you remember about the ex.
- 19:53Speaker 1: Experiment?
- 19:55Speaker 2: Okay, okay, don't blame me late to.
- 19:56Speaker 1: The Okay, all right? So he popped egg into the ramen,
- 20:09Speaker 1: got it.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Brooking? It was not mindful anyway.
- 20:17Speaker 1: Do you have to mix it?
- 20:19Speaker 2: Yeah, before it's become.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Before it becomes a pie. Okay, okay, and then when
- 20:30Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and stay out of it. But do
- 20:32Speaker 1: you have to season it? Or you got to drop
- 20:34Speaker 1: the seasoning in there? Man, I'm helping you. Man, We've
- 20:39Speaker 1: all got to eat this.
- 20:40Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's secret.
- 20:43Speaker 1: So as what point do you move to New York?
- 20:45Speaker 1: Because New York the first place you leave or where's
- 20:48Speaker 1: the first place you leave to go to in America?
- 20:51Speaker 2: New York, New York is supposed to be like everyone
- 20:59Speaker 2: change has become. Garbagioe was a really huge figure in
- 21:04Speaker 2: this life. He changed a lot of stuff. Francis was
- 21:07Speaker 2: a very nick moment when Soviets was got Garbachioe and
- 21:11Speaker 2: in America was Reagan. It was two absolutely outstanding tuberments,
- 21:16Speaker 2: right and start Pedistroica. In Sweet Union, we start more
- 21:23Speaker 2: able to create our private company to the airships and
- 21:28Speaker 2: do the airships and everything was developed. Swears Union collapse
- 21:33Speaker 2: become not the easy time on Sweet Union collapse because
- 21:37Speaker 2: the parts we was buying through all the countryan collabs.
- 21:41Speaker 2: Now economical lateness and supply chain, it's all become distructive.
- 21:47Speaker 2: And in ninety one was before official s Virginian collapse,
- 21:53Speaker 2: the Kijibi, the Communists was trying to take over the
- 21:57Speaker 2: country and at this moment it was start clearly understanding
- 22:02Speaker 2: they can come back.
- 22:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:04Speaker 2: And it was very simple outside of everything, not acceptance
- 22:10Speaker 2: of the Soviet system and believing it's really people. It's
- 22:15Speaker 2: basically believing in this idea. There was not so many
- 22:18Speaker 2: places and it was really understand me and my colleagues.
- 22:22Speaker 2: We was clearly understanding at this moment nothing to do there, yeah,
- 22:26Speaker 2: not because we cannot proceed our dream building the best airship.
- 22:32Speaker 2: And the same time this evil can come back. And
- 22:36Speaker 2: we see it's come back in Russia, right, yeah, you
- 22:38Speaker 2: see the artist startled probably in search Union. We was
- 22:42Speaker 2: never thinking about this possible. Yeah, and from this point,
- 22:48Speaker 2: oh yeah, I forgot to mention. In late actually late eighties,
- 22:55Speaker 2: me and my family and with my parents, my wonderful
- 22:58Speaker 2: was and my sister, we received the the refuge status
- 23:05Speaker 2: from United status was able to immigrate to the United States.
- 23:11Speaker 2: When Perestroica begin and Hope begin, it was hey, it's
- 23:16Speaker 2: better to stay where you are, right yeah, because you
- 23:18Speaker 2: could believe it the place where you are that the
- 23:22Speaker 2: hope become let's say normal place.
- 23:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 23:26Speaker 2: And of course in ninety one when it's happening, it
- 23:29Speaker 2: was pure message, that's it, nothing to do there, okay,
- 23:34Speaker 2: And I walk to my father, told him that's it.
- 23:36Speaker 2: They can come back, trying to pack they left before
- 23:40Speaker 2: me and I arrived in the United State in ninety three.
- 23:44Speaker 1: And how old were you?
- 23:46Speaker 2: I was pretty old, okay, I was twenty nine.
- 23:49Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let's stop fairly young, but yeah, yeah, compare years.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Now young, yeah yah, but back then I was pretty
- 23:57Speaker 2: anyway ollow trying to confuse me.
- 24:01Speaker 1: No, I'm shying, you know what you're probably burning down up. Okay,
- 24:07Speaker 1: I should have left the overhead camera on, man, so
- 24:10Speaker 1: I could see what you're doing. Do you need to
- 24:12Speaker 1: add some water to it? It looks like you some help.
- 24:17Speaker 1: Come on, I'll help you out.
- 24:19Speaker 2: Man.
- 24:21Speaker 1: We're eating some egg and heavily seasoned ramen. You need
- 24:25Speaker 1: this water, at least a little bit of it. Let's
- 24:30Speaker 1: use this before No, I think you could stir it
- 24:35Speaker 1: up and feed us.
- 24:36Speaker 2: Okay, are ready?
- 24:38Speaker 1: Let's see does the egg cooked? Does your theory work? Sorry,
- 24:42Speaker 1: all right, don't feed me. I'm gonna eat it. I'm hungry.
- 24:46Speaker 2: But how youth?
- 24:48Speaker 1: I have good health insurance. That's crazy that this is
- 24:52Speaker 1: the first time someone has ever asked me that. Okay,
- 24:57Speaker 1: that looks good.
- 24:58Speaker 2: I give you the best sport someone. Yeah, remember this
- 25:01Speaker 2: next name?
- 25:01Speaker 1: Yes, I will remember. This looks good.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Listeners did best?
- 25:07Speaker 1: I don't know. It looks good. It looks legit. The
- 25:11Speaker 1: egg looks cooked.
- 25:12Speaker 2: Listen, my teeth was growing this. They're still a wife.
- 25:17Speaker 1: Let's try this.
- 25:19Speaker 2: I'll whatever less will take this? Mean? Yes?
- 25:25Speaker 1: Okay, ready, yeah, let's take this. Please, little protective bodies,
- 25:30Speaker 1: we know he cooked this egg right into the pot.
- 25:34Speaker 1: Please protect it's name Braben. Mhm, what just it is fine? Wow,
- 25:46Speaker 1: someone someone had to test.
- 25:48Speaker 2: It had to be me.
- 25:49Speaker 1: Huh. Honestly, you did pretty good. The noodles are heavily overcooked.
- 25:58Speaker 1: You know what, I had no expectations for you. I'm
- 26:00Speaker 1: just happy that you cooked, because I promise you. When
- 26:03Speaker 1: I met you, you were like, I don't cook.
- 26:05Speaker 2: It's perfect, it's fun. Yeah, it's the best piece.
- 26:10Speaker 1: You can't mess up. Romen, It's impossible. Have you done
- 26:15Speaker 1: it before? You're hilarious. No, that's so the first airship
- 26:21Speaker 1: you designed, you end up I guess do you end
- 26:24Speaker 1: up get advertising, ends up being your first client or
- 26:29Speaker 1: like with the.
- 26:30Speaker 2: In the Service Union, Yes, okay, in the United States, Yeah,
- 26:34Speaker 2: because we ended eventually after New York, we ended in
- 26:37Speaker 2: the Cuttle Air Force Base in central Tolifornia. We was
- 26:43Speaker 2: lucky big. There was wonderful Governor Pete Wilson who invits
- 26:49Speaker 2: and the base was on the closure in the protest
- 26:54Speaker 2: of the closing. But from one point in this base
- 26:56Speaker 2: was a bunch of the Russians speaking. Nothing was speaking.
- 26:59Speaker 2: The Russians speaking was building the airship in one corner
- 27:03Speaker 2: of the Hunger and another corner of the hunger was
- 27:06Speaker 2: B fifty two EMPTYC one thirty five going through active
- 27:10Speaker 2: duty flying.
- 27:12Speaker 1: Yeah, so you did I know it said that you
- 27:14Speaker 1: designed the air airship for the military, right can you?
- 27:19Speaker 2: Yeah? Military, what you're trying to achieve? We build a
- 27:23Speaker 2: lot of airship advertising for surveillance. Airstarts today the definitely
- 27:30Speaker 2: the most successful company in the world in this area
- 27:34Speaker 2: and a lot of styff. The only one, the only
- 27:37Speaker 2: one company in the United States who achieved and produced
- 27:41Speaker 2: type certified by a fairship. What type certifying by every airship,
- 27:48Speaker 2: the only one on the second company in the world
- 27:52Speaker 2: who actively producing type certifi airships. Basically they a lot
- 27:58Speaker 2: of commercial flights airplanes. When you're going to flights, the
- 28:02Speaker 2: same certification on blowing seventy seven or an hour.
- 28:06Speaker 1: So your airships can do commercial flights, and I know
- 28:09Speaker 1: it can do cargo, but it can't.
- 28:11Speaker 2: But seven ceraplace. Yeah, airship is just pot work now,
- 28:14Speaker 2: it's all about application, right.
- 28:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 28:18Speaker 2: The legis let's put this wing. Let's step away from
- 28:24Speaker 2: airs if everything right, If you look at the world
- 28:27Speaker 2: globally right now, they're very lucky. We saw the rise
- 28:31Speaker 2: of internet is so the rise of the mobile communication.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Now you're watching the rise of the artificial talents. Yea,
- 28:38Speaker 2: what it's all about about freedom? Yes, Internet, when internet
- 28:43Speaker 2: is to make information excestreme information available everywhere. Before we
- 28:52Speaker 2: uys need to go to library for information. Now it's
- 28:57Speaker 2: in your hands. You got everything in any book, any
- 29:01Speaker 2: data well for you, doesn't matter where you are. Yes,
- 29:04Speaker 2: you don't need to go and laborates infrastructure right same
- 29:07Speaker 2: heading with mobile communication. Before we was going to need
- 29:13Speaker 2: to send message. We always need to pick up the
- 29:15Speaker 2: phone from what's connected with wires or fax machine, what's
- 29:20Speaker 2: connected with wires.
- 29:21Speaker 1: To infrastructure infrastructure.
- 29:24Speaker 2: Right now we can communicate anywhere because of mobile communication. Yes,
- 29:29Speaker 2: it's freedom without infrastructure or communication. Yes, but only left
- 29:34Speaker 2: it only left for mankind our development, but only not
- 29:38Speaker 2: change its transportation of the cargo, Yes, because we're still
- 29:43Speaker 2: moving the fray same way as.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Train car the traditional routes. But with your company, you
- 29:49Speaker 1: don't do it that way, you guys.
- 29:52Speaker 2: Because here's the point, right because limit your limitation. It's
- 29:56Speaker 2: not in the truck, it's a freeway. Yeah, your limitation
- 30:00Speaker 2: not in the airplane. It's where the airport. It's all
- 30:03Speaker 2: the limitation infrastructure with if you can against say I
- 30:08Speaker 2: can do the same for logistic what was done Internet
- 30:13Speaker 2: for information, which yes, because I don't need a restructure.
- 30:16Speaker 2: Now it's just as a skin equation the nature of
- 30:21Speaker 2: vership because it's buoys, it's just floating without spending enters.
- 30:25Speaker 2: But now it's how you make this device and the
- 30:28Speaker 2: number of the technical challenges to make this device practical.
- 30:32Speaker 2: One of them you don't need to You must be
- 30:35Speaker 2: able not to learn to pick up in a float
- 30:38Speaker 2: cargo because if you're coming to the ground, that's it ground.
- 30:41Speaker 2: Your infrastruction using everything is one of them. Yes, another
- 30:46Speaker 2: one of course, this kind of classical everyone was whole boons.
- 30:52Speaker 2: Now let ballons go, it's goes no imagine if they
- 30:56Speaker 2: bring the cargo, you'll drop the cargo. And what happened
- 31:00Speaker 2: to ers is going up. Yes, we need to liam
- 31:04Speaker 2: how control what is called buoyancy to make sure we're
- 31:07Speaker 2: not going happ and we stay where we're supposed to
- 31:10Speaker 2: be stayed. Yes, this was always major to problems. Why
- 31:15Speaker 2: as today we're looking in the skuis there of course
- 31:18Speaker 2: military federal government because they got the largest task. It's
- 31:24Speaker 2: not protect the United States, it's mean resupply of the
- 31:28Speaker 2: true sports projections and the same time, US military responsible
- 31:33Speaker 2: for disaster relief around the world. It's when something happened
- 31:38Speaker 2: in Haiti or Thailand, the fiscal coming, it's US military
- 31:42Speaker 2: who providing disasters for them. It was natural equation to
- 31:47Speaker 2: solve this logistical problem of the facing every day. Yes,
- 31:51Speaker 2: and of course Department of Defense and starting from Dartwin
- 31:55Speaker 2: with the special Agency who create the Internet and everything
- 32:00Speaker 2: modern day, put the challenge. Yes, the challenge was can
- 32:04Speaker 2: someone coming this system, this airship, what can control the points?
- 32:10Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 32:10Speaker 2: It was competition, yes, but no, no one of our
- 32:14Speaker 2: competitor has got any chance. That's impossible to learn discwel
- 32:21Speaker 2: and federal government following with one program next program. They
- 32:24Speaker 2: help us to build our prototypeical with massive participation and
- 32:30Speaker 2: honestly is one of the uniques of our government of
- 32:34Speaker 2: a government, federal government able to facilitate this kind of
- 32:39Speaker 2: technological change.
- 32:41Speaker 1: They put they had the initiative, so say let's invest
- 32:45Speaker 1: in the in the future of where things can because that.
- 32:49Speaker 2: Poet what I mentioned it was created during the president
- 32:52Speaker 2: is not how and THEDEA of the Defense Advanced Research
- 32:57Speaker 2: Progress Agency is when so it launched the Sputnik it's
- 33:02Speaker 2: start alight and there was a big surprise in the
- 33:05Speaker 2: United States, and basically in how I created that saying
- 33:09Speaker 2: no more surprises technological.
- 33:11Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay.
- 33:13Speaker 2: This agency ask you these challenges, So find the solution
- 33:18Speaker 2: for unsolvable solutions. Yes, something, but no, everyone's saying no,
- 33:22Speaker 2: it's impossible. Yes, and this agency saying, hey, no, you'll try.
- 33:27Speaker 2: What of the stuff what they're doing, of course, and
- 33:29Speaker 2: it and the trust can but it is absolutely normal
- 33:33Speaker 2: and they will be not able to do the significant
- 33:36Speaker 2: step forward looking internet or steals or GPS all this
- 33:40Speaker 2: was caring from this agency, Yes, and it was lucky.
- 33:43Speaker 2: Now be part of this story.
- 33:48Speaker 1: Yes, now, but where you are today, you are revolutionizing
- 33:55Speaker 1: the way packages are delivered now, correct, It is very good.
- 34:03Speaker 2: Yes.
- 34:04Speaker 1: The thing that I find most interesting about what you're
- 34:06Speaker 1: doing is you're so far in advance to the future.
- 34:09Speaker 1: For all you guys listening out there that haven't researched
- 34:11Speaker 1: Errows Corporation essentially the same right now. When we order
- 34:16Speaker 1: a package, it comes through truck trained boat with restrictions
- 34:21Speaker 1: or lack of like you say, a lack of freedom.
- 34:23Speaker 1: But because there's all these old school infrastructures in place,
- 34:27Speaker 1: but with Errows Corporation, what they're able to do. And
- 34:30Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put this in Layman's terms for non
- 34:33Speaker 1: technical terms so you could correct me. From what I
- 34:36Speaker 1: understand is you're able to deliver packages from your airship.
- 34:39Speaker 1: I'm guessing like a via drone and it it air drops.
- 34:46Speaker 1: That was like the best. I didn't want to. I'm
- 34:47Speaker 1: so embarrassed to do it in front of you, but
- 34:49Speaker 1: that's really exciting.
- 34:56Speaker 2: Rate and simple. Right, It's all about freedom, yes, freedom
- 35:02Speaker 2: of receiving the package, freedom of civil rights, freedom, right,
- 35:08Speaker 2: it's all there. It's all about freedom and social or
- 35:11Speaker 2: technical or economics. It's all about freedom. And as we
- 35:14Speaker 2: were talking about cell phone, it's your freedom, it's your
- 35:17Speaker 2: freedom from the virus exactly now today, right, the COVID
- 35:25Speaker 2: nineteen was horrible dark time, yes, but this kind of
- 35:32Speaker 2: time always producing some unique solutions, and COD nineteen produce them.
- 35:39Speaker 2: Online shopping, yeah, yes, from the Amazon. Amazon become Amazon
- 35:45Speaker 2: during the COVID nineteen because it's much more comfortable for
- 35:49Speaker 2: us using the online shopping. It's much more effective, much
- 35:53Speaker 2: more cheaper, and we got more freedom. We're not spending
- 35:57Speaker 2: time to go to Walmart's story. Spent hours, we got
- 36:02Speaker 2: more three times spent his family and exactly. Of course,
- 36:07Speaker 2: it's all about logistics, right in the logistics. Yeah, yeah,
- 36:11Speaker 2: because we don't have logistics. It doesn't matter how many
- 36:13Speaker 2: hours you spend on Amazon web page, the package will
- 36:17Speaker 2: not arrive. Yes, of course we become different, We become
- 36:22Speaker 2: less patient. We want to have stuff now, wars case
- 36:26Speaker 2: in two hours from now. Yes, they're no longer willing
- 36:30Speaker 2: to wait for other Roman.
- 36:32Speaker 1: Rise exactly in one week.
- 36:34Speaker 2: Yes, great. Ten years ago, the visionary Jeff Basil, he
- 36:43Speaker 2: was clearly understand this and he was coming, Hey, here's
- 36:46Speaker 2: the urban city, right, and how can delivery what people
- 36:52Speaker 2: order in a couple of hours, Yes, let's a couple
- 36:54Speaker 2: of hours and the city of drone.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Oh he did come with the idea of drown.
- 36:59Speaker 2: The idea, however, becoming to real life, right, And it's
- 37:05Speaker 2: a yeah picture, it's picture and very simple. You cannot
- 37:09Speaker 2: fly drown if you don't if remote pilots, pilot or
- 37:13Speaker 2: the drone don't see the drone exactly, and of course
- 37:16Speaker 2: on city is impossible. Yes, and it was become real issues.
- 37:20Speaker 2: Why we don't see drown when we was, and again
- 37:25Speaker 2: when it was coming to about a year ago, a
- 37:26Speaker 2: little bit more concludingly saying, okay, we already build the
- 37:30Speaker 2: best shipsyes. Next we can build another best Yes, but
- 37:33Speaker 2: it's not fun anymore because you're already done.
- 37:36Speaker 1: Yes, of course, because you're always moving the goal post, right.
- 37:39Speaker 2: Yeah, you constantly feel hungry and poor exactly. The moment
- 37:43Speaker 2: was you're not feel poor as life ended, and to
- 37:46Speaker 2: continue to feel poor, we decide to create the industry.
- 37:50Speaker 2: We have very she was, we're able to do everything. Industry.
- 37:53Speaker 2: It's about address every human needs, starting with packages.
- 37:59Speaker 1: Okay.
- 38:00Speaker 2: Now we're saying, okay, great, I grabbed the drone, I
- 38:02Speaker 2: put on my airship and make my reship as flying
- 38:07Speaker 2: the house.
- 38:08Speaker 1: Yeah, and now my drawing pick.
- 38:10Speaker 2: Up the stuff from my airship and flying to your doorstep. Yes,
- 38:14Speaker 2: and the pilot to the drawn located on airship. You
- 38:16Speaker 2: always see the drone.
- 38:18Speaker 1: Yes.
- 38:19Speaker 2: Whatever. Okay? Is this safety everything okay?
- 38:22Speaker 1: Okay?
- 38:23Speaker 2: And you're addressing huge market. Yes, because when you start
- 38:27Speaker 2: building industry, it's about economy and how much money your
- 38:34Speaker 2: investor will make and how much money your clients will make. Yes,
- 38:39Speaker 2: and signe to this economy of course, nothing biggest the
- 38:44Speaker 2: logistic Yes, words logistics. It's not sexy words, yes, absolutely not,
- 38:50Speaker 2: but in reality it's huge.
- 38:52Speaker 1: Yes, we all rely on it. Yeah, it's it's the
- 38:55Speaker 1: largest thing. Literally, everything we have relies on it.
- 38:58Speaker 2: And I can to you delivery much cheaper and much lester, exactly.
- 39:03Speaker 1: But now you see where the with everyone relying on deliveries,
- 39:08Speaker 1: you already see how logistics is getting crammed up because
- 39:11Speaker 1: they're trying to cut the cost of logistics, the cost
- 39:14Speaker 1: to distribute the packages, but at the same time increase
- 39:17Speaker 1: the speed of which it gets to the person. So
- 39:19Speaker 1: now if you order a package on Amazon, not trying
- 39:21Speaker 1: to throw shade at Amazon, but your package can say
- 39:25Speaker 1: it's gonna arrive in a day, sometimes it's two to
- 39:27Speaker 1: three days. Is no longer dependable, You can no longer
- 39:30Speaker 1: depend on it anymore. But now you're This is why
- 39:34Speaker 1: I said to you the night we met, when you
- 39:36Speaker 1: said you were crazy, I was like, crazy changes the
- 39:38Speaker 1: world because what you're able to do is say, Okay,
- 39:41Speaker 1: I'm gonna think so grandiose that I'm gonna say I'm
- 39:45Speaker 1: gonna use these arrowships that I designed or and we're
- 39:48Speaker 1: gonna use it to address this solution. It straight reminds
- 39:52Speaker 1: me of I don't know something so far the Jetsons,
- 39:54Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that far in the
- 39:56Speaker 1: future obviously not because you're doing it now.
- 40:00Speaker 2: So it's not because.
- 40:03Speaker 1: So only deliver packages in California.
- 40:06Speaker 2: We're doing what we're doing right again to boring stuff
- 40:10Speaker 2: of logistic right or try to use you got Amazon
- 40:15Speaker 2: when right? Who by the way, is very inefficient because
- 40:19Speaker 2: one went delivered two hundred and fifty packages and required
- 40:22Speaker 2: all day right, yeah, because of traffic, location of the
- 40:26Speaker 2: houses outside, blah blah blah blah, we can do the
- 40:28Speaker 2: same only four thousand packages and a couple of hours
- 40:32Speaker 2: versus ten hours.
- 40:34Speaker 1: Four thousand and a couple of hours.
- 40:35Speaker 2: Yes, that's actually lessen a couple hours, much less. But
- 40:42Speaker 2: because he has hairdship, he has drums and he's just
- 40:44Speaker 2: flying delivery ups.
- 40:45Speaker 1: And down and they delivered individual house.
- 40:49Speaker 2: That's yes, absolutely absolutely this next for this we created
- 40:57Speaker 2: she would call Ira e mail eight or six. It's
- 41:03Speaker 2: small and airship everything small. It's huge, it's just four
- 41:06Speaker 2: hundred feet long. Kids a small one unable to care
- 41:09Speaker 2: for thousand packages. And we call this last mile because
- 41:13Speaker 2: last miles, mean delivered it to your doorstep your business.
- 41:18Speaker 2: The next one, how the stuff moved between the house
- 41:21Speaker 2: to the house. Yeah, it's from very house to the store.
- 41:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 41:25Speaker 2: This boarding term and logistic it's middle.
- 41:28Speaker 1: Mile, meadow mile. Okay, I got it, middle mile.
- 41:32Speaker 2: It's you need to move pallets. We all saw that
- 41:35Speaker 2: semi trail tracks with care just five six pallets inside,
- 41:40Speaker 2: but there's six so much space right now we're coming
- 41:42Speaker 2: with this next model and of other airscraft electrical viable.
- 41:47Speaker 2: Boy in er see it's sixty six store. It's able
- 41:51Speaker 2: to move pallets. Wow.
- 41:53Speaker 1: So wait, what was the one that delivers the pack was?
- 41:55Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 41:55Speaker 1: Metal mile? What was the last one?
- 41:57Speaker 2: You said, last?
- 41:58Speaker 1: Last mile? Meadle? Minds last But you've already accomplished last.
- 42:02Speaker 2: Mile, and now the exploring the build already last mile, Ergy.
- 42:08Speaker 2: Now the building has been thousand and thousands. Of the vehicles,
- 42:13Speaker 2: the boat, not one, not too not three because I
- 42:17Speaker 2: was saying it's boring to build again, Ergy, already done best.
- 42:20Speaker 1: But now your aerowships and I'm again I've been digging
- 42:26Speaker 1: doing research. But the aerowships are they kept at one
- 42:28Speaker 1: thousand pounds per airship?
- 42:31Speaker 2: No again for last mile on last miles four thousand
- 42:37Speaker 2: packagees over ten.
- 42:38Speaker 1: Thousand pounds, ten thousand pounds in the last it's eighteen
- 42:43Speaker 1: thousand pounds eighteen towns.
- 42:46Speaker 2: Yeah, because this way today the city of La Yes,
- 42:50Speaker 2: and they got a bunch of the warehouses around the
- 42:52Speaker 2: city because deliver it to your district, to your portion outside.
- 42:57Speaker 2: You can know you need to be close to this
- 42:59Speaker 2: because delivery across the seat. Everyone trade to drive in
- 43:03Speaker 2: the traffic hours in the city. And we all understanding
- 43:06Speaker 2: it's crazy. Yes, it does now, it's right, take a
- 43:11Speaker 2: long time. Now I can have one biggery house, but
- 43:13Speaker 2: a lot of small ones.
- 43:15Speaker 1: Yes.
- 43:15Speaker 2: And I'm just flying from this big way house with
- 43:18Speaker 2: my achieve and the distance it's not big, it's it's
- 43:22Speaker 2: twenty emails fly to max. But be moving all these trucks, wents,
- 43:29Speaker 2: delivery wents in the street. Yes, and you're having fun.
- 43:33Speaker 2: It's more secure because I'm going to drop your package
- 43:36Speaker 2: in your backyard, yes or court yard.
- 43:39Speaker 1: Yes.
- 43:40Speaker 2: It's basically the people who are stealing the Amazon packages
- 43:44Speaker 2: will be retired now they cannot steal. They can find
- 43:48Speaker 2: different jobs more. It's more productive. I changed complete understanding.
- 43:55Speaker 2: You don't need to wait you can order and receive.
- 43:59Speaker 2: Now you ask the business, right you're ordering I don't
- 44:04Speaker 2: know these microphones? Yes, now I can bring to you
- 44:08Speaker 2: polots of these microphones now, yes, versus for you to
- 44:12Speaker 2: wait and wait. Yes, you're making more money because you're
- 44:16Speaker 2: waiting less, you're paying less for delivery. Yes, your client's
- 44:20Speaker 2: more happy. You're coming back to everyone's happy.
- 44:23Speaker 1: And that's what that was gonna be My next question.
- 44:25Speaker 1: So now you invest all this money into the technology.
- 44:29Speaker 1: This is where it gets mathematically. This is where I'm curious.
- 44:32Speaker 1: How does it break down where it costs the client
- 44:35Speaker 1: it saves the client money in is it in the
- 44:38Speaker 1: long run or the short run?
- 44:40Speaker 2: Immediately immediately.
- 44:44Speaker 1: I'm trying to not use technical of course, go ahead,
- 44:48Speaker 1: I like it.
- 44:48Speaker 2: I like it.
- 44:49Speaker 1: Get passionate about it.
- 44:55Speaker 2: Okay, think this way today. The cost what you're paying
- 45:02Speaker 2: sometimes you're paying for this delivery of your package is
- 45:05Speaker 2: handing payment. Amazon saying to you, for example, free delivery. No,
- 45:10Speaker 2: it's not the free delivery.
- 45:11Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, of.
- 45:12Speaker 2: Course it's expensive delivery.
- 45:13Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 45:13Speaker 2: You can imagine how much really be couse delivery when
- 45:16Speaker 2: one guy one went delivery only two hundred fifty packages. Yeah,
- 45:23Speaker 2: very expensive. Yeah, plus and children's from the way and
- 45:26Speaker 2: guess on the way. Yeah, working said blah blah, very
- 45:31Speaker 2: expensive proposition, right, yeah, of course if you will get
- 45:35Speaker 2: one big win deliveryus versus two hundred fifty packages, if
- 45:41Speaker 2: you delivered five thousand packages versus one day every hour, Yeah,
- 45:46Speaker 2: she has your money.
- 45:48Speaker 1: Yes, I see it. So how do you grow a
- 45:50Speaker 1: corporation like this? There's a like venture capital? Like, how
- 45:53Speaker 1: does it? I'm confused, like I don't know, I genuinely
- 45:57Speaker 1: don't know.
- 45:58Speaker 2: But they working in this life.
- 46:01Speaker 1: Yeah, no, of course, how do you scale a company
- 46:05Speaker 1: like yours?
- 46:06Speaker 2: Money?
- 46:06Speaker 1: Investment investment?
- 46:08Speaker 2: Yeah, but we, of course we are outside of the
- 46:09Speaker 2: venture capital.
- 46:12Speaker 1: Yeah, so how do you fund the company that's outside
- 46:15Speaker 1: of venture capital?
- 46:17Speaker 2: Very simple. There's a number of the ways. It's private
- 46:21Speaker 2: institution of financing England, the large financial company providing investment.
- 46:26Speaker 2: And of course it's family. It's what the beauty of the.
- 46:30Speaker 1: Did you say family?
- 46:31Speaker 2: Public?
- 46:31Speaker 1: Public? Public? Because they spend all their money on the
- 46:38Speaker 1: more hilarious did you say they spend all the money
- 46:40Speaker 1: on the aeroship of course?
- 46:43Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah it's the Wall Street right, Yeah.
- 46:49Speaker 1: The corporation is publicly traded not yet not yeah, okay,
- 46:55Speaker 1: the personal.
- 46:56Speaker 2: Visit our web page w w aerosct dot com. Were
- 47:01Speaker 2: it now, it's called the Security Change Commission. It's called
- 47:06Speaker 2: test the water. We basically it's no obligated. We're looking
- 47:10Speaker 2: at how many people willing to buy our stacks if
- 47:13Speaker 2: you become public? Okay, some kind of register, it's not obligated.
- 47:17Speaker 2: When people just express the interest.
- 47:19Speaker 1: Oh where do they go to do that?
- 47:21Speaker 2: But to our web page. It's again w w irs
- 47:26Speaker 2: craft A E R O s craft dot com and
- 47:30Speaker 2: the one tap registered. Now it sounds when you got
- 47:36Speaker 2: all our story, what will happening? And you can register
- 47:41Speaker 2: as potential either going public.
- 47:44Speaker 1: Wow, I'm going to be I'm going to be on
- 47:46Speaker 1: that list.
- 47:46Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going to watch make sure you I have
- 47:49Speaker 2: to be on the list.
- 47:50Speaker 1: You're the future, No, the future?
- 47:53Speaker 2: What is now?
- 47:54Speaker 1: You are now?
- 47:55Speaker 2: Exactly? Yes? Yeah no, but this is the beauty in
- 48:00Speaker 2: eating when they grab the future.
- 48:02Speaker 1: And put now, Yeah, the future is now with you,
- 48:05Speaker 1: The future is now.
- 48:06Speaker 2: No, I am just one of them. You want to
- 48:10Speaker 2: including people nine by the way, yes, because all them
- 48:13Speaker 2: it's not happening.
- 48:14Speaker 1: And then just for you guys, is gonna You're gonna
- 48:17Speaker 1: allow us to come to to the hangar and check
- 48:20Speaker 1: it out. And then do you have an actual pilot
- 48:22Speaker 1: that sits in the aircraft?
- 48:24Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 48:24Speaker 1: Oh so there is somebody up there there or is
- 48:26Speaker 1: there like a million people in the aircraft? Fire?
- 48:29Speaker 2: Again depends on the model. Yes, the Cargege pilots in
- 48:34Speaker 2: the airplane, because if you want to fly over to
- 48:36Speaker 2: the Sieges, yeah, of course you need to have pilots.
- 48:40Speaker 1: And then when you this is random, this is like
- 48:42Speaker 1: an ignorant question. But if you ever have to fly somewhere, yeah,
- 48:48Speaker 1: do you ever just say.
- 48:51Speaker 2: Yes, my here's the only one solo flight was kept
- 48:56Speaker 2: him in Chine in ninety five for ninety six because
- 49:03Speaker 2: of anyway, they was very poor. We built some airsive
- 49:09Speaker 2: couple of years ago, middle of the nightighties and the
- 49:14Speaker 2: pilot who was supposed to be coming to China and
- 49:18Speaker 2: the ship for some reason, she was finding a good
- 49:22Speaker 2: looking girl and he not arrived, and I got my people.
- 49:28Speaker 2: I never flyers before, and I tell touchiness, I'm the pilot.
- 49:36Speaker 2: I arrived in China and they're saying, there's your license.
- 49:40Speaker 2: I think they don't have license, but I'm the pilot
- 49:44Speaker 2: and they just showed to me on the one guy
- 49:47Speaker 2: who's thinking in the corner with white helmet with big
- 49:51Speaker 2: red star on the helmet. Think it's your co pile
- 49:54Speaker 2: And look on the I never knew before. And I
- 49:57Speaker 2: look on this guy and I was just want to
- 49:59Speaker 2: ask so many kids he has? And can I have
- 50:02Speaker 2: the phone number of his wife? Because probability of him
- 50:07Speaker 2: be alive after my flight? Who knows? And I try
- 50:11Speaker 2: to convince Chinese I am experienced, I know what I'm doing.
- 50:15Speaker 2: They always need to fly alone in the second, No
- 50:18Speaker 2: way it's gonna China and never alone. To the former
- 50:23Speaker 2: flying alone Chinese airspace, I tell them I'm okay, I'm
- 50:27Speaker 2: from such union. I'm really communist. After Tory minus discussion side,
- 50:35Speaker 2: after this probably three four hours discussion, this bigin I
- 50:39Speaker 2: receive approval and I am proud to fears and proba
- 50:46Speaker 2: or alone in Chinese airspace.
- 50:49Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. All right, I can't believe that story.
- 50:53Speaker 1: All right, thank you Egor for cooking for me and
- 50:56Speaker 1: spending time with me. I hope you had a good time, absolutely, and.
- 51:02Speaker 2: Yeah you and your little bit, but.
- 51:09Speaker 1: We're gonna be able to come out and check out
- 51:11Speaker 1: your digs okay, cool, and I want to go. Can
- 51:14Speaker 1: am I able to go inside the airship for real?
- 51:18Speaker 1: And then the is the outside delicate? I will see Okay,
- 51:23Speaker 1: I have so many questions. I did a lot of research,
- 51:25Speaker 1: so I'm very excited and I hope to I will
- 51:29Speaker 1: see packages being delivered to my home, bea drone, and
- 51:32Speaker 1: I will never forget this moment. It's every single ying. Yes, yes,
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