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Titans 26, Colts 20: Reaction with Will & Dave Retherford (The Colts Report, 3.85) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

0:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You are listening to a special addition of the Colts Report with Dave and Will Rutherford.
0:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I usually say the score here, I don't even know what it was.
0:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Reacting to the Colts loss on Sunday against the Titans, and it's only on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
0:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome Colts fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report.
0:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I am Greg Mengle, I'm joined by Will and Dave Rutherford.
0:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Dave is on vacation and has already had his vacation ruined by the Colts.
0:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And this has had to be a bottom five day in Colts history, guys.
0:44
[SPEAKER_02]: This has got to be one of the worst losses in Indianapolis cold history.
0:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, for crying out loud, you just can't get much worse than this.
0:53
[SPEAKER_02]: 26 second half points, lose 26 to 20, just an embarrassing loss at home against a team that is I wouldn't five.
1:05
[SPEAKER_02]: There's just absolute, these zero excuses, zero,
1:10
[SPEAKER_02]: uh, just understanding of how this could happen.
1:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Once again, we just cannot take care of the ball.
1:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought all three phases had moments of just absolute breakdown.
1:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And at the end of the day, that's the recipe for losing against arguably the worst team in the NFL.
1:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's probably the most unacceptable colds loss and recent memory, I think that the Carson wins the loss in Jacksonville when they were legitimately trying to lose a game to get the number one overall pick.
1:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And Trevor Lawrence is rookie season and they had a chance to make the playoffs online might be the most disappointing, but this is up there.
1:51
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a team that the opportunity to get back to 500.
1:55
[SPEAKER_00]: kind of had their entire season in front of them.
1:57
[SPEAKER_00]: They got helped this morning by Houston winning in London.
2:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Just completely a mimic offense in the second half.
2:04
[SPEAKER_00]: They were just a trotace.
2:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought Daniel Jones was efficient hitting the underneath stuff all day, but they just...
2:11
[SPEAKER_00]: felt like the ball had a water on it, just felt slick, Josh Jones struggled to bring the ball on a couple of times, Keenan Allen struggled to reign a couple in.
2:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were without a their best player on the offensive to other Warrens, so it kind of was a recipe for them to struggle, but I didn't think that the defense would be as Swiss cheese as they were in the second half, but I think some of that comes down to offensive turnovers and your own zone and red zone.
2:39
[SPEAKER_00]: interceptions kill you anytime it happened so just way disappointing loss at this season over this is it right that was this is the the anchor that just dragged him straight to the bottom.
2:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Well again I'm going to give Daniel Jones a little bit of an excuse that they're just there's just nothing to throw two out there but he was horrible I thought he was horrible and he was probably the main reason they don't win this game today.
3:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I give up 26 second half points to Cam Ward in a horrible offense.
3:11
[SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of that was Daniel Jones putting in them in bad situations.
3:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought the whole thing was pretty bad.
3:16
[SPEAKER_00]: It goes back to Jonathan Taylor's fumble.
3:19
[SPEAKER_00]: That was brutal.
3:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Could not have happened at a worse time.
3:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of let Tennessee sneak back.
3:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
3:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeffrey.
3:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He's so good and he just made a great play.
3:28
[SPEAKER_00]: he made a great play but it's you know I hate to be this person but it kind of feels like Taylor can be snake bitten by untimely mistakes at times and this is kind of another example of that where it's Tennessee had no moment in going the entire first half until that's fumble and then that kind of got him going on the right track.
3:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I'm not going to completely put it on him, but it just, it's a, at a time in a game where there has to be some level of understanding that we just need to get down to the football, let him get back in the game, especially not backed up the way they are.
4:00
[SPEAKER_00]: He did make a great play.
4:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeffrey Simmons, but,
4:04
[SPEAKER_00]: It just was awful timing if anything else and they struggled to recover from that offensively because I just think they were not able to establish a run game, they forced Jones to become a pocket pass or in Jeffrey Simmons got home a lot.
4:20
[SPEAKER_00]: He was really good in the second half and we've talked about it all year.
4:23
[SPEAKER_00]: A gap pressure is a quarterback's worst nightmare and that was in Daniel Jones's face, the entire afternoon.
4:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And they paid the price for it.
4:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I, and kind of just been in a state of shock, I feel like after a loss like this, and just kind of wondering where the franchise goes from here.
4:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Is the first time all year?
4:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the offensive line was not good.
4:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was good in the first half.
4:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It was horrible in the second half.
4:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Tanner Borgolini had zero chance against Jeffrey Simmons, who is without question a top five defensive linemen in the league.
4:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely he is.
5:00
[SPEAKER_02]: When you look at all the stats, I mean, you know, you look at total yards, you look at passing yards, you look at rushing yards, you look at all the things that seem to matter and you think, well, the cult should have easily won this game.
5:12
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's interesting Greg, you and I were texting there at halftime and
5:18
[SPEAKER_02]: and you made a comment that we were going to win like 26 to 7 or something like that.
5:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I said this game was over.
5:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let me set the scene here.
5:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I get a text from Dave that says, well, they had a chance to have a even bigger lead.
5:32
[SPEAKER_01]: They should have put this game away already.
5:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's going to be close and I was like, Dave, you're out of your mind.
5:37
[SPEAKER_01]: This Titan's offense has no chance against the cults and man was I wrong.
5:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what's even, what's even funnier about it is I think you said it was going to be a final score of set like 26 to 7.
5:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was, that was the second half score.
5:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Was the wrong 26 to 7.
5:55
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I just think that it's a total collapse.
5:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what they said at half time.
6:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew it half time.
6:02
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we had to kick two field goals there and didn't finish drives that that like we were giving up points and I just thought, you know, we're going to let this team hang in.
6:11
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to let them hang in and we sure let them hang in and then the second half just just basically gave them everything.
6:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, they didn't, they didn't, you know, there's nothing on looking at Tennessee stats can't work through for 102 yards car now takes really good.
6:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It's about it.
6:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Tony Pollard had an okay game earned on the ball but but that's because he's playing the cold again nothing nothing sticks out it's just a total total collapse and as I said earlier this week and our previous we lose this game and I think it has to I think you have to fire I think I think we have to fire people and I think it starts right now I think it starts tomorrow.
6:54
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
6:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, hey, that's what I want to talk about.
6:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to save them for the second segment.
6:58
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll go a little longer here in the second segment and talk about what the cult should do and what they will do, which will probably do different things.
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7:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Greg, I don't see any big changes happening to be completely honest with you until the end of the season.
7:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you can fire Stike in the desert coach on staff that you think actually gives him any more of a chance of winning the second does.
7:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Lou and Arumo is even earned the opportunity to be an interim head coach based on how this defense is performed this season.
7:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't expect Jim Bob Kudder to be able to take over interim play calling duties.
8:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it possible that they try to bring Brian Mason into their special teams coordinator
8:09
[SPEAKER_00]: be the inner of my eye dial that I really do.
8:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you can find the first baller.
8:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Not again.
8:17
[SPEAKER_00]: That can't happen.
8:20
[SPEAKER_02]: How about Adam Minitiri?
8:22
[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
8:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you can fire baller tomorrow and nothing changes.
8:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's already at contracts expiring, bringing an interim to help kind of write the ship.
8:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, at this point, the GM's not doing a ton outside of being the trade deadline.
8:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess maybe a keep him because of that.
8:42
[SPEAKER_00]: But to be honest with you, I think after the sauce gardener trade went down, I'm not sure you give him the chance to even have keys to work the trade deadline.
8:50
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the path you absolutely see.
8:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
8:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So tomorrow morning and I'm not talking about Shane Steiken.
9:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about Chris Ballard.
9:03
[SPEAKER_01]: They got to get somebody in now to I mean, he's got to be somebody that they could hire and because 10 years as Dave mentioned on
9:14
[SPEAKER_01]: the preview 10 years now and it's getting worse and we knew before the season even began that this roster wasn't good enough to win anything and then he goes and spins way too much money on an average at best quarterback way too much money on a top 25 wide receiver is paying like a top five and the roster makes no sense and it's time.
9:39
[SPEAKER_02]: It's time I mean it's
9:42
[SPEAKER_02]: there's just absolutely zero excuses after today.
9:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You cannot lose this game at home.
9:48
[SPEAKER_02]: That's essentially now ended your season.
9:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So as far as I'm concerned, the season ended the day, we need to start bringing in somebody who can maybe start making some decisions for the future.
10:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And that can't be crisp-powered.
10:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It just can't be.
10:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's the head for tomorrow.
10:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm on the fence with Stike in, because he clearly has not gotten the job done either, but for all the reasons you guys mentioned, that might be a more difficult task tomorrow, but I don't think it's difficult for the GM and somebody has to pay for what happened today.
10:31
[SPEAKER_02]: clean house, man.
10:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I do think it's, you know, it's all some that changed.
10:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I can once just stand behind this guy in Daniel Jones, but unfortunately, I think the book kind of has to stop with him at some point.
10:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just not playing well enough to, for this team to win.
10:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I don't get it.
10:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I know we've talked about it, but at some point, how does Anthony Richardson
11:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get it.
11:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the offense just didn't look good in the second half, and there's been times that they've been able to be really successful.
11:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I think early in games, especially the first 15 script, they look really good.
11:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Stecken does a great job with that.
11:16
[SPEAKER_00]: But beyond that, they've at times really not been able to move the ball at all, and they kind of fell into that role today as well.
11:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the second half possessions went
11:24
[SPEAKER_00]: fumble intersection, punt, block punt, touchdown, and then they went forward on fourth down twice in the game.
11:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, that's really bad against a defense that is not been good all year.
11:41
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been the better unit of their team, but they've not been
11:45
[SPEAKER_00]: a good, not good at all.
11:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And the offense not only that is putting the defense in compromising positions.
11:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that fumble, Jonathan Taylor, the Titans had to go 22 yards.
11:57
[SPEAKER_00]: They kick a field goal.
11:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And that feels like a win for your defense to only force him to three, because they were pretty much a field goal range when it happened.
12:04
[SPEAKER_00]: The intersection, not really an arm punt because where it happened, but it definitely gives a team some momentum.
12:10
[SPEAKER_00]: They marched down defense holds him to a field goal.
12:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's punt.
12:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Defence gives him the pun gives him a short field and the fourth quarter They have to drive 24 yards and they score and now all the sudden it's 13 13 and then I mean the block pun's just And fortunate.
12:27
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you mean.
12:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but one of the one of them is that I don't know what's wrong with Riga Barrett of Sanchez But it didn't look good on the field.
12:35
[SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure
12:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that played into why they truly didn't punt at all in the end of the fourth hoarders.
12:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't think that they trusted their punner could get the job done.
12:47
[SPEAKER_01]: His bad as the defense was in the second half.
12:49
[SPEAKER_01]: This one's on the offense.
12:50
[SPEAKER_01]: This one was clearly on the offense.
12:52
[SPEAKER_01]: They just kept giving the Titans chances.
12:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like this was on the offense.
12:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I don't think it's all Daniel Jones.
13:00
[SPEAKER_01]: You give him the right weapons.
13:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure he's a fine-starting NFL quarterback.
13:05
[SPEAKER_01]: The right now, that offense is so bad.
13:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It is so bad.
13:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It five tight ends on the roster today.
13:14
[SPEAKER_00]: In Ogles, she got hurt.
13:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So you lost one of them.
13:19
[SPEAKER_00]: It was one of the worst.
13:19
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't Tyler Warren.
13:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Crazy.
13:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not having Tyler Warren really hurts.
13:24
[SPEAKER_01]: No doubt about it, especially when it wasn't known until late in the week, they had a game plan with him in it.
13:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That really hurts.
13:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I think their backup tight ends were pretty good today.
13:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But just really the offensive line wasn't good.
13:38
[SPEAKER_01]: If the offensive line isn't good, that's really the only Jonathan Tyler Taylor behind that offensive lines really the only strength they have
13:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but they lost a their six blocker and either Warren, I mean, so that the whole game playing change in terms of how you're able to establish the line of scrimmage when you don't have him out there.
13:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, I noticed that a lot, especially early in the game, you know, Taylor started to wear on them a little bit, but he struggled getting the motor girl in early.
14:04
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't, wasn't shaping up to be the third straight week that he really was quite ineffective.
14:09
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the start.
14:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's better.
14:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and maybe he isn't, I don't want to speculate on that.
14:17
[SPEAKER_00]: But I question to Tyler Warren, what are you doing on a Friday practice that you end up having a guy that can't go on Sunday?
14:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, especially the best player on your team.
14:29
[SPEAKER_00]: What the hell is going, I would love the transparency is what happened there.
14:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It sounded like he took a shot to the groin, and that's why it wasn't there.
14:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it was kind of,
14:40
[SPEAKER_00]: wishy washi you heard something you know Friday pop up on the Friday and J report but it's still a light practice I believe and then all the sudden nothing and he's out on Sunday and name that I don't like that that just smells off and I just questioned how that injury happens you know of course the local media I don't believe was able to be at the Friday practice or they didn't
15:10
[SPEAKER_00]: a little bit, but it was quiet and you kind of just hope that this is something that's going to linger for weeks.
15:19
[SPEAKER_00]: If all of a sudden you're not able to go on Sunday when you looked good all week and then something happens.
15:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Daniel Jones was sex six times.
15:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've known that past blocking is not necessarily the strength of this offensive line.
15:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's being road graders.
15:41
[SPEAKER_01]: They're a C plus past blocking unit, particularly at the tackles.
15:47
[SPEAKER_01]: But today was as bad as it gets in holy crap.
15:49
[SPEAKER_01]: They only have one good player on that defense.
15:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, one stand out player on that defense.
15:55
[SPEAKER_01]: They couldn't handle him.
15:56
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you can't chip a, a detail.
15:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that truly, you can give running back help, but you, you're not gonna typically chip an all or help out.
16:05
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a guard center responsibility and you're gonna have to slide the protection.
16:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I, Jones, everybody says that he looks fine that, you know, he's running in stuff and he looks gonna just foot work.
16:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think is recovered as well.
16:20
[SPEAKER_00]: From the Securities and during the pocket, he struggled stepping up,
16:25
[SPEAKER_00]: finding holes in the pocket to deliver a clean ball.
16:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But the offense aligned just has to be better.
16:32
[SPEAKER_00]: There's one game record on the Tennessee Titans defense in the London wreck the game.
16:37
[SPEAKER_00]: That should be, we gotta take Jeffrey Simmons away at all costs.
16:41
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only player really on this team.
16:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Monnie Hooker, but a nice game today, but after I made fun of him in the pre-game, I was like a Monnie Hooker.
16:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I guys like the worst player, worst safety in the NFL, and only crap was he good.
16:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there are many titles.
16:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
16:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And an interception.
16:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
17:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But he was everywhere.
17:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen him play like that before.
17:06
[SPEAKER_00]: he has it's the best game of his career had to be just so happened to the of course come against the cold I'm that catch on the sideline was a extraordinary yeah it was I'm you know I know we can kind of pick that apart I don't necessarily know how much that's on jams he's moving but it's be awfully nice to maybe hit downs in the chest if possible and not um you know leave it float nut to be tipped by your 510 receiver
17:34
[SPEAKER_00]: tips and over throws Tennessee took advantage of their opportunities.
17:37
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to tips and over throws you got to catch them and they came down with it and it's I can't you can't just sit here a little Daniel Jones over because I mean at the end of the day he was trying to make a play go in but it's stung an awful lot because that culture caught driving and that was a I think a big you know kicking them
17:57
[SPEAKER_00]: balls to kick in the behind is to, hey, this is probably going to be a close game after they had drove 13 plays for 72 yards and completely dominant possession.
18:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
18:10
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a completely dominant drive and honestly just bad luck because it was.
18:16
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a play you never see and it was incredible play off of off of a ricochet.
18:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
18:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That was just a little bad luck, and I think Dan of Jones is just Daniel Jones.
18:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He's good on some days and some matchups, not as good on other days, other matchups.
18:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, since the day they signed him, he's somewhere between 10 and 15.
18:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little worse now in the NFL.
18:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's a guy that you want as a starting quarterback, if you're a horrible team, but not if you're a contender and he's just not good enough.
18:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And they paid him like he was good enough, and that's the problem.
18:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and it makes matters worse.
18:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I hate to point out the obvious, but this is gonna be the second coat she's got in fire.
19:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So the third coat she's got in fire.
19:07
[SPEAKER_00]: So...
19:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that you can't put it all on the quarterback, but you know, the end of the day, um, stiking and him are married now at the hit.
19:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, stiking chosen as his guy, and it's not worked out.
19:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you got to, I think, evaluate everything on this team.
19:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I would love to, it's the culture we tend, and this team is, you know, sputtering a few games below 500.
19:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I'd love to see what Richardson has in terms of a,
19:39
[SPEAKER_00]: fifth year option, if he's even a viable starting quarterback and all, I mean, just feels like he is not had the benefit of getting on the field to show what he can do at all outside of preseason, which I think is difficult to always put a lot of stock in in terms of how skilled a player is, because he's playing with the third and fourth string guys, because he's not starting.
20:01
[SPEAKER_00]: So
20:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I just feel like for this colds team, if you know Daniel Jones isn't the future after this year, which I believe he's still only signed to the one year extension, he's kind of married to the colds for this two year contract, but you could get out of this contract after this year if you really wanted to.
20:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You could find a way to trade him or to just cut him if you don't think that he's a viable option.
20:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Can I ask what kind of franchise drafts a 20 year old quarterback?
20:29
[SPEAKER_01]: plays him for 20 games, and then just says, and keeps him on the bench for two and a half years, signs another quarter back way more than what he's worth, and then has the fourth pick on the draft, sit on the bench, and just do nothing.
20:47
[SPEAKER_01]: What is this?
20:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen it happen.
20:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think it's been my practice, but, you know, we talked about the cardinals last week doing doing my practice.
20:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we've my practice here with Richardson and keeping my, we don't have a first-round pick next year either.
21:03
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, who are we going to bring in to even when we have a high draft pick or would have had a high draft pick next year?
21:12
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have it.
21:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So,
21:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, unfortunately, I'm not sure we're not married to Jones for these next two years.
21:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, again, uh, malpractice on Chris balance part.
21:24
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, it's just, um, you know, I think at this point Richardson needs to at least be given a shot again.
21:32
[SPEAKER_02]: What do we got to lose?
21:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we've already our seasons probably already over now anyway.
21:38
[SPEAKER_02]: So find out whether he's got any.
21:42
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, any potential, because Jones is just does it.
21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if your goal is to go eight and nine, he's, he's your guy.
21:52
[SPEAKER_01]: If your goal is to go seven and ten or even nine and eight, and maybe sneak into playoffs, then Daniel Jones is your guy.
22:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think our goal right now needs to be thinking about what does the 20 27 year look like because we, we're not getting back into this.
22:09
[SPEAKER_02]: or we're not getting back into this now.
22:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I think we need to find out what our roster has.
22:13
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got way too many holes right now in this roster to even have a possible chance of coming back in this division when we just lost the one game that you just cannot lose.
22:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You cannot lose to this team at home.
22:31
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's unacceptable and and they're going to have to figure things out now.
22:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they're figuring it out for 2027, which is why I would be calling for Bower's head tomorrow.
22:42
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's time we need to move on and and figure out what the future looks like because what we've got going on in the present is just not cutting it.
22:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing with Stike and that I just don't feel bad about his job is because he was drafted to develop Anthony Richardson.
23:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I've said this probably 20 times on this podcast and I'm sure I'm going to get flacked for saying it one more time, but he failed at his job.
23:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So he was fortunate to have the second opportunity and he failed that one too because this team is no better than there were two years ago.
23:19
[SPEAKER_00]: we let a career kind of go to waste or we wasted it in anyapolis, what he does beyond.
23:27
[SPEAKER_00]: The Colts is, you know, anybody's guess, but the Colts ruined a top four draft pick and Stichon has to pay for that.
23:37
[SPEAKER_00]: So his ass has gone when the season's over too.
23:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He has no chance.
23:42
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only thing that makes the playoffs.
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: it's kind of the stone around their necks and they're still refusing to play him the only way this gets better for stiken and ballard at this point is if Anthony Richards is something and then people can go oh hey they found their franchise quarterback maybe we should stay with those guys and they're still not gonna do it.
24:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, they, they, this cold team is going to have to go on around if they want to have any chance of kind of getting back in the good graces.
24:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I said, I think the season's over and I do, I do firmly believe that.
24:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I think their schedule's difficult enough down the stretch that they're going to probably struggle to creep their way back in at two and four, but it's far from impossible.
24:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Weirder things have happened.
24:21
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
24:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We're at Minnesota at Jacksonville.
24:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So those are vital vital games now.
24:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's a chance that Jacksonville game gets flexed on a night football, too, which would be a huge deal to potentially get a win on the road on national television in terms of just morale on social media and kind of the backing of the public.
24:41
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be huge.
24:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, I hate to say this, but there's a better chance than being in two and 15, then to get back in the get back into this race, I think.
24:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're probably right, but will's not wrong.
24:53
[SPEAKER_01]: If they can win in Minnesota next Sunday, everything changes again.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing is things start to look up.
25:01
[SPEAKER_01]: The schedule then definitely gets easier.
25:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got the giants at home, the dolphins at home.
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Tennessee again on the road.
25:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you start to see some winnable games if they can get past these two without being oh and two.
25:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Then maybe there's a chance.
25:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, in this Minnesota, this next game's an awful matchup form because Bryan Flores is an absolute maniac, he might what's a hundred percent of the place.
25:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not exaggerating.
25:32
[SPEAKER_00]: He last week, he blits it in 80% clip.
25:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine that he is going to probably be bringing the heat again.
25:40
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Daniel Jones is going to have to be able to play through pressure next week as the Vikings are going to bring it and if he's not able to then we're probably standing down a two or three pick after noon that's going to be just a cautious watch because the Vikings can't move the ball either.
25:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So, we're going to get stuck watching a 15 to 12 football game and you just hope the cults can find a way to be on the right side of it.
26:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure it's not a 45 to 3 game, but it's not the thing, the thing that's so frustrating is this offense literally just has to get five yards across midfield and they score.
26:20
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the bare minimum this offense has to do.
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: If they can get to the 43 yard line, they can score because of Spencer Schrader.
26:28
[SPEAKER_00]: He is an X factor now that you have to say, hey, we can tailor our offense to if we are able or use him to our advantage, then we can put less pressure at times to on the offense that maybe not always have figured out every drive that take the three and move on and you hope that that can be good enough to just keep you in the game to let your offense roll on, but today it just felt like that.
26:53
[SPEAKER_00]: there were a couple of ponds that I just I wish they kind of would have maybe tried to do something that he got sacked a few times, you know, it's always difficult when it's fourth and long.
27:03
[SPEAKER_00]: There were early in the game when they took the first kids go from Shrayer, I'd are love for them to try to go forward on fourth down there, but he took the point to go and up ten was on this team was vital and I thought the field was right at the time, but man,
27:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you absolutely would have especially on fourth and short you'd love to have it back because the end of the day it could have made the difference in the game.
27:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought going up 10 points on that team at the worst case scenario was 10 10 going over time.
27:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Because their offense is that bad and they scored 26 points in the second half.
27:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, top five worst day in.
27:43
[SPEAKER_01]: This franchise, at least since the years before Eric Dickerson arrived when they won through games every year here in Indianapolis, but back then there were no expectations and now there are.
27:55
[SPEAKER_01]: So this has to be a top five worst day and it won't be a regular season.
28:02
[SPEAKER_01]: There've been a lot of playoff disappointments, but worse regular season day and a long, long time.
28:15
[SPEAKER_01]: There were a couple in the gym more a year, the playoffs year, that were on the same kind of level.
28:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But even then, we knew Peyton Manning was coming.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: We knew that there were championships in the future.
28:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So this we have no idea where we're going.
28:31
[SPEAKER_02]: We really do need to gym more oppressor after this day.
28:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Playoffs, playoffs, but we're talking about playoffs.
28:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But next Sunday, everything can change in Minnesota.
28:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And we will talk about that later this week when we preview that one and break down the film.
28:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, man, I don't want to watch that again.
28:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to do that.
28:56
[SPEAKER_01]: When we look when we preview the Vikings game later in this week, thanks so much, guys.
29:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, see ya.
29:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not breaking up.
29:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not breaking down the film this week.
29:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I refuse.
29:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're going to see the same thing that we saw today.
29:13
[SPEAKER_02]: just over again.
29:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Two of my favorite players on this team just get their asses kicked all day and Gonzalo's in Bordalini.
29:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I love those guys and I think they've been fantastic, but man, Jeffrey Simmons just ate their lunch.
29:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's a different level guy, but yeah, yeah.
29:35
[SPEAKER_01]: But that also faced Chris Jones and did a fine job on him.
29:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's why this was a little befuddling.
29:43
[SPEAKER_02]: This is it.
29:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we didn't talk about this them, but I mean, that again, you know, you're just as a division opponent.
29:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, another reason why we need to be thinking about stiking because he, he should be more ready.
29:56
[SPEAKER_00]: He should be more ready for that, you know?
29:59
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like we don't see Tennessee twice a year every year.
30:04
[SPEAKER_02]: They came to an apples today and they do exactly what to do to be
30:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just think the way this team has made me feel about the ball.
30:17
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a rough weekend for Indiana teams in football.
30:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Not the only, hey, the only plus, the only plus here is that we didn't pick them to the hand the pick them leg.
30:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And we had him, we had him circled as a possibility.
30:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Who'd you pick?
30:37
[SPEAKER_01]: The chiefs.
30:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
30:41
[SPEAKER_01]: How wouldn't have felt comfortable with that?
30:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the other option was the Colts, and we ended up being a good call on that one.
30:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was a good call.
30:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't check in the Colts.
30:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Between those two.
30:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I, I just set it the other day on the preview.
30:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I just didn't feel good about this game.
31:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I, this was the game where I thought Tennessee was going to come in and get right.
31:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And the sad reality is they didn't even come in and get right.
31:09
[SPEAKER_02]: They just, right.
31:10
[SPEAKER_02]: They just came in and, and, uh, dabbed this in a heart.
31:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Rough day, guys.
31:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks again.
31:21
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31:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I've been trying to tell you all year, this was not gonna go well.
31:30
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31:34
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31:47
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