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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 182 | Jaguars Hot Takes After Bye Week · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to jag VEM today.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Kindannie Stevens.
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  Speaker 1: Hope you all had a RESTful and enjoyable bye week
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  Speaker 1: as the Jaguars are getting ready to take on second
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  Speaker 1: half of their season after a week off.
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  Speaker 2: J P. Shatrick and for Brian Sexton. Today John Oser
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  Speaker 2: with us as well.
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  Speaker 1: So let's go through some of our big things for
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  Speaker 1: you after the bye week.
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  Speaker 1: Health Association Benefits for federal employees and retirees.
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  Speaker 2: Big thing number one is Trading Block.
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  Speaker 1: JPI tried to check out a little bit this week,
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  Speaker 1: not look too much into social media and all the
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  Speaker 1: things that were going on, but I did see Diana
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  Speaker 1: Rossini released a report that said they Jaguars were listening
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  Speaker 1: to calls for Brian Thomas Junior. We don't know the
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  Speaker 1: validity of that, of course, but hearing that not anything
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  Speaker 1: anybody probably wanted to hear at that point. But considering
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  Speaker 1: the struggle of BTJ has been having, is that a
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  Speaker 1: reasonable thing to think is gonna happen?
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  Speaker 2: Or was that just a rumor?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: If the phone rings, I think they'll answer it. You know,
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  Speaker 4: there's one of those things. I was an organ this
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  Speaker 4: week and I had fifty degrees. I'm bald, right, so
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  Speaker 4: I had to wear the Jaguars stocking cap, and I
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  Speaker 4: had a guy one of the Oregon stores asked me about, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: what's going on with Brian Thomas Junior.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, what do you mean. He's like, he's on
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  Speaker 3: my fantasy team. He's not doing anything.
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  Speaker 4: So it seems like one of those situations. He's a
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  Speaker 4: good football player. He's going through it John right now.
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  Speaker 4: But you just gotta kind of stick with it and
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  Speaker 4: we'll see what happens in the next week. But I
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  Speaker 4: just don't know if this is gonna happen.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he gets traded. When teams call
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  Speaker 5: during the bye week, people pick up the phone and
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  Speaker 5: I think it's what happened. But I don't expect him
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  Speaker 5: be traded. He does need to improve on what's going on.
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  Speaker 5: Their issues going on with Brian Thomas Junior. But I
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  Speaker 5: would be shocked at this point if he doesn't work
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  Speaker 5: through those problems with the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think much ado it nothing.
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  Speaker 1: We'll keep everybody updated, of course, if anything does develop.
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  Speaker 2: Our big thing Number two is bye week buy in.
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  Speaker 1: So we talked a lot about what went on in
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  Speaker 1: the last two games before the bye week before we left,
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  Speaker 1: and those two kind of frustrating losses, especially the one
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  Speaker 1: against the Rams. But John, we get a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a seek peek here into some of the meetings
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  Speaker 1: and what goes on with the players and Liam Cohen
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  Speaker 1: meeting with the team before they took that break, and
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  Speaker 1: it really doesn't feel like he's lost the room whatsoever.
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  Speaker 2: He still has that buy in.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like everybody's still on the same page going
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  Speaker 1: to the second half.
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  Speaker 5: Well, just based on as you said, the team meetings
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  Speaker 5: and then on his Monday media availability, I think he
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  Speaker 5: has buy in because I think he has a very
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  Speaker 5: realistic grasp of what's going on. His theme has been, hey,
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  Speaker 5: you know, there's no reason we can't turn this around.
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  Speaker 5: If we played the kind of football that we played
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  Speaker 5: early in the season, and if we get back to
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  Speaker 5: what we are and really stopped me in it easy
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  Speaker 5: for their teams. So he's as good as I've been around.
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  Speaker 5: Tony Dungee was as good as there was at after
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  Speaker 5: a loss, sort of calm in the waters. Liam's the
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  Speaker 5: same level and Tony Dungeon's a Hall of Famer, So
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  Speaker 5: I think in terms of players buying in JP, they
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  Speaker 5: know what reality is in the NFL, and when their
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  Speaker 5: coach grasps it, I think it's easy for them to
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  Speaker 5: follow this guy, and I think he's laid a groundwork
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  Speaker 5: for buying.
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  Speaker 4: And there's actual proof of success this year. We've had
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  Speaker 4: seasons around here before where the team is one in
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  Speaker 4: seven or zero to eight.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're four and three.
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  Speaker 4: They're the number seven seed in the AFC playoffs that
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  Speaker 4: it started today, which it won't a lot of seasons
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  Speaker 4: to go. But they've had winning results even though they're
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  Speaker 4: battling through some things internally, penalties drops, the list is
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  Speaker 4: longer than that, So there is some positivity there. They've
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  Speaker 4: been able to get winning results and you've got some
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  Speaker 4: proof of what they can actually do if they are
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  Speaker 4: able to clean some of these things up.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there's a lot of positives ahead, everything ahead for
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  Speaker 1: this team. Our final big thing is down the stretch
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  Speaker 1: now that they've had the bye week. It's all about
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  Speaker 1: focusing going forward and winning the games that are on
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  Speaker 1: their schedule. But JP, we look at some of the
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  Speaker 1: issues we talked about before obviously, what is your main focus.
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  Speaker 1: What's the number one thing that needs to get fixed
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  Speaker 1: down the stretch?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's penalties, clearly. I think that's the
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  Speaker 3: number one thing. They've only I think they're.
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  Speaker 4: What fourth in the league now and accepted penalties after
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  Speaker 4: Sunday's games, and they've played one less game than the
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  Speaker 4: other three teams in front of them.
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  Speaker 3: So do the math on that one.
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  Speaker 4: They had eighteen flags against them in London, thirteen of
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  Speaker 4: those accepted.
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  Speaker 3: Cut that in half.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe you got a better shot in some of these games, John,
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  Speaker 4: So for me, it's penalties number one.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think mine is also based on penalty.
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  Speaker 5: They have to be able to run and they have
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  Speaker 5: to be able to function offensively. I think until they
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  Speaker 5: cut out the penalties and the avoidable errors, the functioning
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  Speaker 5: errors that they talk about, Trevor can't give up early
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  Speaker 5: sacks that just lead to sort of four yard differences,
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  Speaker 5: which you say, wow, what's the problem with picking up
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  Speaker 5: second and thirteen, Well, it's harder to do that than
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  Speaker 5: picking up second and six is the problem. So I
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  Speaker 5: think if you get back to at least giving yourself
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  Speaker 5: a chance to line up, Like JP said, I think
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  Speaker 5: it solves a lot, and you've got to start catching
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  Speaker 5: the ball. I mean, it's drops. It's not okay to
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  Speaker 5: have two or three easy drop passes a game. Think
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  Speaker 5: about how many drives that kills. Maybe three and you
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  Speaker 5: get nine in a game. It's a third year offense
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  Speaker 5: that you're giving away dropping the ball.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know you go back to that down
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  Speaker 4: in distance things second and thirteen. Well, I mean, if
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  Speaker 4: they're dropping the ball, then it's third and thirteen, right,
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  Speaker 4: So you're just adding on to it.
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  Speaker 3: And guess what.
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  Speaker 4: Max Crosby's coming up this week too in Vegas. So
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  Speaker 4: pass rushers are pretty much on every team. You get
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  Speaker 4: those down in dis situations, that's not a favorable look.
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  Speaker 3: For this team.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of stuff to clean up going forward.
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  Speaker 1: But as we mentioned, they are four and three. So
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  Speaker 1: coming up after the break, we're gonna go over our
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  Speaker 1: highlights from the first half the season for the Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: It's all right in front of us man.
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  Speaker 6: Everything we want, everything we talked about doing and wanted
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  Speaker 6: to do.
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  Speaker 3: Is all right in front of us.
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  Speaker 7: I can't be more excited. God yet, has it been
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  Speaker 7: our best last two weeks?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 1: Not known?
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  Speaker 7: But man, isn't that some of the control. Shouldn't that
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  Speaker 7: be the exciting part about it? It's not that we
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  Speaker 7: over here Kennel kick did. We can control everything, every
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  Speaker 7: single aspect of what we do moving forward. We can
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  Speaker 7: control get away, get away from it, do what you
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  Speaker 7: gotta do individually to reset, recalibrate, and let's come back
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  Speaker 7: on Monday, guys with a renewed understanding.
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  Speaker 3: But nothing that.
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  Speaker 4: Needs no change.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: It's right here in this room.
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  Speaker 6: All the answers and solutions are right here for us
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  Speaker 6: to just keep going and take the next step.
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  Speaker 7: But the details matter, they do, and it starts here.
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  Speaker 3: Us as coaches need to do it.
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  Speaker 6: Coach it better, but we gotta go do it better
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  Speaker 6: as well. On the games we all got on that
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  Speaker 6: guy's understand let's go Giants.
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  Speaker 1: If Nam Cohen talking to the team before the bye
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  Speaker 1: week last week, if you haven't checked it out, I
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  Speaker 1: do want to recommend that you do it. I believe
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  Speaker 1: I think it's technically a hunt extra but it's about
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  Speaker 1: to minutes and it's kind of the meeting, the recap
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  Speaker 1: post frustrating loss in London, and kind of what the
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  Speaker 1: team talked about before they went on the break, And
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of what led me into the segment a
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  Speaker 1: little bit because after he talks a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: the mistakes that they made and taking ownership of some
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff they did wrong, they went over some
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  Speaker 1: of their highlights of the season and how they can
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  Speaker 1: some of the best things that they did in the
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  Speaker 1: first half. So I think it's important for us to
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  Speaker 1: remember to be positive around here because it has been
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  Speaker 1: dire times before.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they have done some good things.
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  Speaker 4: It is a long football season. It's been you know,
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  Speaker 4: seven weeks now eight with the bye week. They've done
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  Speaker 4: some positive things.
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  Speaker 3: They've won four of.
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  Speaker 2: The games out of more than they lost.
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  Speaker 3: That's like a winning record last I checked. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they could be better. They could be a whole lot worse.
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  Speaker 5: John, Well, they're four and three and I thought going
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  Speaker 5: into the season they were an eight, nine, ten win
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  Speaker 5: team depending on how they played within that and I
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  Speaker 5: thought they would get beaten badly a couple of times
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  Speaker 5: because usually first year regimes in the NFL have a
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  Speaker 5: couple of games where it gets away from them because
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  Speaker 5: you're still getting to where you want to be when
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  Speaker 5: you're doing this thing full strength. That's what happened. They
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  Speaker 5: may everybody's panicking over this. The two best teams on
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  Speaker 5: their schedule might be the two teams they just played,
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  Speaker 5: and the Seahawks are really good. And I think quietly,
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  Speaker 5: we're gonna find out that these two teams, Rams and
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  Speaker 5: the Seahawks are really good. It's a devision I never
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  Speaker 5: thought going in. This is a thirteen and fourteen they
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  Speaker 5: have three losses. I think they can get to eleven
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  Speaker 5: and six ten seven, get in the playoffs. That's I
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  Speaker 5: think they feel like they're gonna be better than that,
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  Speaker 5: but I think that is a very realistic goal for
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  Speaker 5: this thing.
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  Speaker 1: Let's look back at some of the stuff that they
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  Speaker 1: did do right in the first half, because let's go
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  Speaker 1: to Week one. Travis Etn coming out of the gate
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  Speaker 1: looking amazing, and as much as Liam Cohen talked about
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  Speaker 1: establishing the run, we saw that right out of the gate.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, with what he was.
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  Speaker 1: Able to do running the football and just I think
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  Speaker 1: one of his career days he had a seventy one
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  Speaker 1: yard run in that game against the Panthers, and just
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  Speaker 1: talent across the board from the running game that we
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  Speaker 1: hadn't seen in a while, even Baseil.
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  Speaker 2: Twoton as well.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't they go for two hundred on the ground in
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  Speaker 3: this game? I think they did.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it was kind of set the tone for
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  Speaker 4: what they wanted to be this season. You know a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people maybe on the outside that aren't in
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  Speaker 4: it every day, thought, oh it's Liam Cohen, They're.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna throw it around. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: This is the bread and butter of what the Jaguars
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  Speaker 4: need to be to be successful offensively, and they really
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  Speaker 4: set the tone on the offensive line and then atn
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  Speaker 4: breaking free with some big runs and did it all
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  Speaker 4: day long.
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  Speaker 3: Job.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I played two very very good defensive lines going
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  Speaker 5: into the by which is why you didn't see this
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  Speaker 5: as much. Passing game has to start working better to
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  Speaker 5: spread it a little bit and allow this to happen off.
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  Speaker 2: All right, it's jump head to Week three. We saw
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  Speaker 2: the Texans game.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, after their loss to the Bengals, they come back,
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  Speaker 1: they want to play well against a division opponent and
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  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior's catch at this point when we had
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  Speaker 1: been talking about him not being able to come down
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  Speaker 1: with the football, his struggles.
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  Speaker 2: This was a momentous play.
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  Speaker 1: It set up the game winning touchdown and the trust
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  Speaker 1: to see Crev Lawrence check out of the run play,
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  Speaker 1: find Brian Thomas Junior there across the middle, trust him
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  Speaker 1: to go get it and setting up this play was huge.
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  Speaker 5: Made to see more. Yeah, I mean, but it does
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  Speaker 5: show that when it's there, there's dynamic plays to be
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  Speaker 5: made in this offense. They just have to get to
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  Speaker 5: this more clear. I mean it goes are saying you
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  Speaker 5: need more forty five yard passes from Brian Thomas receptions
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  Speaker 5: from BTJ.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that capped off a tough day because he
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  Speaker 4: brought the ball bunch in that game and really kind
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  Speaker 4: of told you everything about what he was going through
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  Speaker 4: when he made the catch and then the running he
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  Speaker 4: threw the football.
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  Speaker 3: Against the wall. He was just so overcome with the
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  Speaker 3: emotion there to set.
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  Speaker 2: Up the game winner and then the ending of this
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  Speaker 2: game as well.
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  Speaker 1: Will give some love to the defense because I'll obviously
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  Speaker 1: tons of takeaways early in the season from this team
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  Speaker 1: and they've gotten away from it in the past.
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  Speaker 2: Couple of games.
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  Speaker 1: But Josh Heinz Allen get after the quarterback and then
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  Speaker 1: Antonio Johnson interception at the end of the Texans game
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  Speaker 1: to kind of seal it when the Texans looked like
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  Speaker 1: they were trying to get something in the last you know,
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  Speaker 1: seconds of this game, trying to try to tie it
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  Speaker 1: up or win it, and Josh hens Allen play Josh
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  Speaker 1: heines Allen's play.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to see more of this too. John
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  Speaker 4: They've had close calls in the pass rush game. This
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  Speaker 4: was one that secured the bag, if you will, at
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  Speaker 4: the end of the game. But that's really been hasn't
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  Speaker 4: been a lot of that consistently this year in the
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  Speaker 4: past rush game they've been close to him't been able
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  Speaker 4: to get to the quarterback a whole lot, especially Jah.
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  Speaker 4: So that was a big play in a big moment
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  Speaker 4: to get there and affect the play and heads up
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  Speaker 4: play on the back end to catch it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think I think you'll see the defense get
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  Speaker 5: back to more of this once Trayvon gets sure going again.
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  Speaker 5: Don't overlook this game as a big game. I get
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  Speaker 5: the Texans are three and four, but they'd be four
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  Speaker 5: and three. They gotten this one right and It's been
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  Speaker 5: easy to overlook them because the cults are so hot.
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  Speaker 5: But this game is going to end up in the
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  Speaker 5: second half the season. I think people looking back on
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  Speaker 5: and going, I'm glad we got them because they think
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  Speaker 5: they're I think they're still a factor.
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  Speaker 1: I think they are too, especially after their win against
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  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers yesterday. Look, I had the Week
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  Speaker 1: four Parker Washington punt return touchdown. The momentum shift that
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  Speaker 1: felt in that game. We talked all week.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars haven't played well in these on the West Coast,
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  Speaker 1: haven't won in California in a.
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  Speaker 2: While, and this felt like a.
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  Speaker 1: Shift at this point in the game. I remember in
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  Speaker 1: the press box, John, we were kind of watching it
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  Speaker 1: go down and it was huge. It was huge.
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  Speaker 5: It's what they didn't have. I mean, I got one
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  Speaker 5: called back in London. I don't know if they'd made
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  Speaker 5: the same impact that this one did. But when your
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  Speaker 5: offense is struggle a little bit, and they have at times,
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  Speaker 5: you need big plays from elsewhere. They were getting them early,
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  Speaker 5: you know, turnovers and big plays and cetra teams. Again,
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  Speaker 5: they probably need one or two of these coming down
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  Speaker 5: the stretch to turn a couple of games.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when the offense is struggling dropping the ball
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  Speaker 4: and not running it, and maybe the defense is playing
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  Speaker 4: pretty well. Special teams they can contribute to. And we've
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  Speaker 4: seen Parker do this now twice in his career that
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  Speaker 4: counted one in London this year didn't count. And both returns,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, are on deep punts that give him
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  Speaker 4: space in front of him.
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  Speaker 3: He makes a man miss, finds a seam and he's
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  Speaker 3: got the ability to take at the distance. And let's
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  Speaker 3: see some more of this as we move along.
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  Speaker 2: Momentum changers. We love that.
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  Speaker 1: And then the ending of this game in Week four
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  Speaker 1: as well, because a huge game for Eric Armstead, going
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  Speaker 1: back to the team he used to play for, coming
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  Speaker 1: up with the stripsack at the end of the game,
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  Speaker 1: huge ceiling.
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  Speaker 2: It shutting off any potential comeback for the forty nine.
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  Speaker 4: Leading the team in sacks this year, I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so what three three and a half for him and
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  Speaker 4: moving back to his more natural position inside and making
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  Speaker 4: the impact against his old team.
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  Speaker 3: It was a big week for him, certainly. Do yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We need to see more big pass rush in big
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  Speaker 5: moments and need to get leads to set up this
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  Speaker 5: kind of situation.
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  Speaker 2: We have the ability to do that for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And then the final one for us is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd, who had a tremendous start to this season
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  Speaker 1: and I couldn't have made a bigger play for himself
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  Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football against the Chiefs of Pick six
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  Speaker 1: going back ninety nine yards here, and just also the
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  Speaker 1: team hustling down to block form some of the big
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  Speaker 1: guys as well. So it's a full team effort here.
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  Speaker 1: But just that was kind of the defense as a
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: whole fell like play in that moment.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, when you have seasons like this and again this
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: is a season where you're trying to get out of
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: four and thirteen close to what you wanna be. Uh,
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: you're not gonna be dominant in those seasons usually because
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: you're turning around a team this four and thirteen. So
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: there's gonna be plays. If you reach your goals, there's
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: gonna be plays you look back and say we got
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  Speaker 5: one there that maybe we don't without a big play.
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  Speaker 5: This has a chance to be one of those plays
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  Speaker 5: that you look back on in five or six years
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  Speaker 5: and say that's one of the ones that helped get
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  Speaker 5: started at a huge part.
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  Speaker 4: No doubt, ninety nine yards against Mahomes, a quarterback they
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: haven't beaten before, and Devin Lloyd, a guy who had
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: struggled in his first three years, finding his legs defensively
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  Speaker 4: this year. That is a huge play against a perennial
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  Speaker 4: powerhouse on Monday night football.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't get much bigger.
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  Speaker 1: Than that A moment in primetime. We love to see that.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Stay with us on jagxam. After the break, we'll give
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  Speaker 1: you our hot takes for the second half of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Jag Zam Hot Takes Today, brought to you by Higher
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  Speaker 1: House Subs. I don't know how boiling of a hot
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: take they're gonna be. Mine's a pretty hot take. I'll
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: say that.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have subst hot Well, John, start us off.
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  Speaker 2: What's your hot takeaway?
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  Speaker 5: Now I'm drawing a blank and I was told back
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  Speaker 5: to basics, back to basics, back to contention.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Contention.
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  Speaker 5: By this, I mean they have to get back to
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: what they were doing early in the season. If they
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: do that, we saw the highlights. They can be a
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: team that runs the ball well. Uh, they can be
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: a team that plays efficiently, and they can be a
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: team that stops to run defensively. If you do that,
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: you give yourself a chance for takeaways. I don't necessarily
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: they're gonna be I don't necessarily think they're going to
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  Speaker 5: be a team that beats really good teams by double digits.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: I think, uh, you know, the Chargers are coming up,
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: the Broncos are coming up, some really good teams. You
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: have the Colts twice. They can get a few of
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: those playing the way I'm talking about and then get
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: the gettable ones. If they play the way they've shown
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: as they can play, can they get back to that?
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: That's we're going to start finding out on Sunday, which
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: is a huge game on Sunday, by the way, against
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: the Raiders.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Big, massive, big gotta get going in the second half
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: the right way, and four the next five are on
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: the road, by the way, well, the road home, neutral,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: wherever it is. You have eighteen penalties in the game,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: it's not gonna matter too much. So they got to
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: get this one going if they can get and got
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: to kind of keep pace with Indy as well right
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: now until you get those head to head matchups later.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Something to consider.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: They do have a ton of divisional matchups the back
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: half of the season though, so that's in their favor.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: But Indie's kind of a runaway train at this point,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: so we won't get into that right now.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: JP, what is your hot tape for us?
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, stay with me here.
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  Speaker 4: Nineteen sixty three, the Bronx Zoo in New York opened
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: in an exhibit called the Most Dangerous Animal in the World.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: And people would walk down a corridor and they look
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: through the gate and there was a mirror because it's you.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: It's the humans, right, and you are the most dangerous
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: on the planet.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: If the Jaguars walking, they are the most dangerous animal
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: on the planet.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: They could hurt themselves. And that's what they've done.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: If they overcome that, they can hang with any team, Yes,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: even the really good teams left on the schedule. They've
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: already beaten some really good teams. The Rams game got
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: away from them. Rams could be a Super Bowl team.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: That's fine, but there's no team I don't think that's
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: just so markedly better on paper than the Jaguars if
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: they handle their business. So look yourselves in the mirror,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: realize that it's you. That it's the toughest team left
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: on the schedule.
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  Speaker 2: The Jaguars JP's here to motivate. We should lend this
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: that little story to Leo to give to the team meeting.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: I liked it. It's dangerous animal in the world, dangerous yourself.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Danger I'm going hot take because i want this to happen,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna will it into existence. I think Travis
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Hunt is gonna lead this team in touchdowns at the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: end of the season. I want the focus to be
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: more now on Travis Hunter. I think they've experimented with
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: him on both sides of the football. At this point,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: you need someone to catch the football, you need someone
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: to make plays. Travis Hunter's done.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: That for you.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: He's shown he's capable of doing that.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Give him more responsibility and let him do that for you,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: because at this point, giving opportunities to other people that
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: aren't making those plays, give it to the guy that
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: can make the play for you.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: We're a those thirty minutes into the show and this
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: is the first Travis Hunter reference that we've had, which
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: is pretty remarkable considering that he did go over one
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: hundred out of that in the second half last or
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: two weeks ago now at Wembley, and it just feels
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: like you got to get your best player on the
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: field more both sides of the ball. Put them in
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: this guy, especially in a position to go perform and
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: when other people around him may or may not be
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: performing well.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: We were doing highlights and he didn't really have touchdown
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: highlights in the wins, and I'm with Kay, I think
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: it's going to change. I think he will be what
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: the offense starts running through in second half the season.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: I'm fascinated to see what that's going to look.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Like because.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: It's a little unusual to have the offense run through
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: his position, which is a little bit of a slot position.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: But he's too good not to at this point, and
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: he's been reliable. I'm not saying he has no drops.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: He's caught the ball. His hands are really good. So
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: I think you're going to see Travis. You know, Travis
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: and Travis, you know, the two best offensive players so far.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: Get Brenton back into that, and then you've got some
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: go to guys on offense.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: And think about if they would have hit some of
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: those passes to him early in the season, what we
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: would be talking about, especially nationally with Travis Hunter. He
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: would have a couple more touchdowns at least and some
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: big plays and big moments early and that you know
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: had the p I in that game against Cincinnati, right
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: So if those aren't there, if those are there he
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: has catches early, then it's a whole different narrative right
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: now about.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Hunter And I think a point to mention as well
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: is that this team has spread out all the touchdowns.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I think we five or six players have one touchdown.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: A Hunter Long is leading your team with receiving touchdowns
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: at this point.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, first two in his career of all things. But
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: it was just good for him.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Those are great that the Jags have those touchdowns, kai
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: but happy for them. But they need wide receivers in
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: there to make places.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: Hunter Long did not have Hunter Long in that preseason prediction.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: As the first touchdown as well, and leading we look
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: at the buye so say with us, We'll tell you
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: what's coming up the rest of the week. Here is
• 22:25
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• 22:39
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• 22:43
  Speaker 1: youre going to be there, Well, I'll be here.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: We got Jaguars and Postgame, the Public's tailgate show and
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: all the things.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe you'll get some mister chubbies delivered.
• 22:54
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  Speaker 5: I just found out that they had a west Side location.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: I thought they were d the Beach. West Side is
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: closer to me, and for people that have done their
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: food's insanely good.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they really don't have to pay us to say it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: It's true.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: I might go over to the Westside.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Those ub style wings love that.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: And then I think we're supposed to have a happy
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Hour Monday later in the season from the Beach location,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: which is always.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Live on location. Yeah, we love that. Get the face.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: We're working on the deats right now.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: We're on the deats. Good to know. Well, we're working
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: on the deats for this week. We're back in action.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Some of the schedules similar, some of it's a little
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: bit different. We'll hear from Liam Cohen a little bit
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: later on today. I'm looking to see here to hear
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: about some of the injuries on the defensive side of
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the FOOTBA. Obviously, Trayvon Walker has been back playing, but
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: hopefully I think he's getting potentially a different cast on
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: his hands. We'll be able to use his hands a
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: little bit more during the past rush. And then also
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: hoping to get an update on Devin Lloyd. We haven't
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: heard about that just yet, have we?
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Well I have, and I mean that's and they may
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: not even tell you anything today with that. It's sure
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: of those lists see how the injury report happens as
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: the week goes along. But that the calf thing, you
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: don't want that to linger because that leads to other
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: things and can just stay that handstring that whole area.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: I gotta nip that in the button if there's any
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: issue at all. I think I'd said about another week,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: But this is what the bie week does a lot
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: of times, you know, this is this has been a
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: banged up team, John and those little those little bumps
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: and bruises that happen for some other guys too. Okay,
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: they've got ten games to go. This should be as
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: fresh as they'll be the rest of the season.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they've been fortunate in one sense and that these
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: injuries are not season ending. But you also you also
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: throw Brenton Strange into that and mix and you're talking Strange, Walker,
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: and Lloyd. I could argue those are three of your
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: top five guys who have been out, out or limited.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: You can overcome injuries core guys, which those guys are.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: They need them back, They get back soon. We'll hear
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: from coaching and some players as well later today.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: We'll be back with you here on Jagsam on Wednesday
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: to giving an update on what's going on this week.